Liber Mechanicum - The Winners & The Losers

[@remusventanus5341]

I gotta say, they Mechanicum still feels like a very viable army if you build them accordingly.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Yep! Totally agree 😊

[@nameisbad]

Being viable if build accordingly is kind of unacceptable tho, so much effort goes into this genre that variety of options should be an upmost priority. being shoehorned into playing a certain way because your army is seen as less important than X (x = either most popular or most profitable) is a really really shitty feeling and why this genre has issue growing to where it SHOULD be rather than growth that replaces those whom are lost from burnout.

[@andrewlopezmp3]

I have never before heard someone say faq rather than say the letters haha. Good video

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Ha ha. Ain't no one got time for three syllables 😅

[@14DEADSOUL]

Been missing your uploads!

[@blackbriargaming5483]

I know! I've been so busy putting my Alpha Legion together and actually playing games!! 😅😔

[@OmegaSolider13]

i hope they release updated reprintings of this book. this is why gw should follow parabellum's example and do FREE online rulebooks that can be updated

[@blackbriargaming5483]

They REEEAAAALLY should. Or at least both. I personally love the feeling of a hardback rule book, and like putting them on my shelf. But the book was rushed. It is what it is. The Heresy Community will come to the rescue like always.

[@DeathGuardChampion]

Played Cybernetica in 1st edition. The army has since been shelved. It's massively disappointing. Were I to field that same army from last edition that generally performed alright (I tried not to make it too crazy), I just don't really get anywhere. My only real source of damage now are Thanatars, units that I don't want to field a lot of and I want to stick to mostly automata. It's a sad day.

[@Here_KeatyKeaty9539]

Appreciate all the content put out, curious if anyone has solid recommendations on World Eaters (Crimson Path) using a Mechanicum allied detachment? Would love to buy a Thanatar even if it doesn't get fielded (such an awesome model)

[@TheCaptainash]

Worth noting when it comes to reactions on Automata, it's the Cybernetica Cybertheurgy power (Which is available to both HQ choices and the Enginseer guys from the Elites slot) that turns reactions on (not just a bubble, thats the programmed behaviour thing) but you're Ld 10 so you can definitley make 1 unit able to react if you want! Also if you make an Automata a Paragon of Metal the only way for it to get reactions is Scoria Scoria has a 6" bubble of full automata units being able to react, so his unit cant react because its not a full automata unit :( And he still doesnt have a High Techno Arcana Logic of Victory is a weird one, the units its really good in like Secutors probably want to get stuck in to combat which would turn it off; and there's not really many automata units to make use of it as all the really spicy shooting ones break off into their own units (Thanatars) I think you can make a decent force from the new book, but its carried on the back or two or three really strong units! The rest of the book is a snooze fest, which is a real shame! Still the best army for style points though, IMO >:3c

[@blackbriargaming5483]

The Enginseers! That's who I missed! And style is indeed everything 🥰

[@Amras22520]

I might be tempted to ad a praevian for my world eater army with one or two Castelax for shooting purposes. What do you think about that?

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Without a magos to give them +1BS and/or overwatch I dareday they want feel very impactful for their points 😔

[@Amras22520]

@@blackbriargaming5483 that's sad te hear... but I love so much the model I'll field them anyway !

[@blackbriargaming5483]

@Les Lectures du Panda best reason ever!

[@Sentenal]

You don't think Myrmidon Secutors or Thallax are overly impressive? Secutors are easily the best unit in the book now. Each one has 4 wounds, 3+/5+, T5 (so extremely hard to remove), you can load up a unit of 3 of them with enough Grav Guns to kill a Contemptor in 1 turn, or load up a group of 3 with enough plasma to nuke a unit clear off the table (18 natively AP3 plasma shots with Breaching 4+). They are also one of the few units in the book that can defend themselves in close combat. Meanwhile Thallax are line, still with 3 wounds, they still jump around like they are Tau, and their basic gun is S7 with rending 4+.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Yeah I'll pay that on the Secutors, Thallax I think are very playable but 4+ Save is going to get punished on the battlefields of second edition.

[@Sentenal]

@@blackbriargaming5483 4+ isn't great, but being 3 wounds a piece at T5 makes them also tough to remove, and with jetpacks, they can get cover pretty easy.

[@alexdoe3163]

Does the macrocarid explorator still exist?

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Yep! In the Legacies document, it's a tough nut to crack but definitely over priced.

[@AirsoftAddicted]

well, I believe it can be a huge shock for Mechanicum players to go from overpowered auto win in 1st edition to balanced army in 2nd.

[@andrewbakescakes9684]

Given how broken they were in 1.0, it was expected that there would be "losers" here. I mean, no one wanted a Leagues of Votann in HH 2.0 at all.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

For sure. I think Thrall still could have had a cheeky fearless upgrade. But otherwise the army is very playable.

[@andrewbakescakes9684]

@@blackbriargaming5483 - Now if only they would do something re: IF, IW, and your opponent shooting you more in your turn than you can shoot them thanks to Interceptor, Return Fire, and Overwatch. :D

[@frizzank]

Mechanicum is honestly kinda scary if built right.

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Certain units can certainly do work!

[@chrisg1954]

You can't really do a winners and losers of the Liber Mechanicum without discussing how off the chain Myrmidons are surely?

[@rhaivaen]

I'm missing my knights in this book, which is lame.

[@CyrodiilCome]

I'd love one of these videos for knights

[@blackbriargaming5483]

Yeah I'll do a separate video for knights at some stage 🤖