LIBERTY SAFE SOLD YOU OUT TO THE FEDS

[@BrandonHerrera]

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[@theman-no6sn]

Dad?

[@DramaticBatu]

#akgnotificationsquad

[@dkjphills79]

Not hard enough.

[@noneofyourbusiness2437]

They sold out. They deserve all the hate they get.

[@Sujad]

Never trust a company or the government to not screw you over.

[@sutoriimmortal2177]

Liberal Safes just voided their entire reason to exist as a business with one call.

[@rickswordfire4774]

Liberty Safes should remove the 'Liberty' part from their company name. And also the 'safe' part.

[@ranndomundead9112]

inb4 we get a string of "Are Liberty safes bulletproof" vids

[@slowturtle6745]

​@@rickswordfire4774 Class action lawsuit?

[@neondystopian]

I see what you did there.

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Liberty and thê men who died on that day

[@christopherknorr2895]

"Come back with a subpoena" should be the corporation's version of "come back with a warrant". Disgraceful and cowardly policy and behavior.

[@SepticFuddy]

How about "You guys own an angle grinder, right?"

[@baraka629]

They shouldn't even have the codes in the first place. They should get subpoenad and give out blank pages and be like "here's where we would put the customer's code, if we kept it in the first place"

[@JimFosterVO]

@@stevexracer4309 They have backdoor codes for when customers lock themselves out, or safes get sold on the used market, or a locksmith is helping a customer, there's a path to keeping the safe useful. It also harms the company if the customers can "brick" the safe and there's zero resale value. Normally, they only give those codes out to locksmiths who can prove their bona-fides. They should have AT LEAST that high of a standards before dealing with ANY gov't agency, unless there is (say) someone locked inside, or some other urgent risk of life and limb.

[@baraka629]

@@TonyCox1351 yes but the warrant didn't specify them by name, only the home owner who was raided. so they were a 3rd party that wasn't within the scope of the warrant issued and had no obligation to give out anything.

[@tomkeehn]

@@stevexracer4309 Each safe has a master code in case the customer forgets their combo, or at least thats their reason for having it.

[@Rembreiker_lychec9257]

The fact that safes are not secured from a corrupt government is not a problem. The fact that they had a backdoor/manufacturing master code that is logged for every safe produced without the customer's knowledge, and the fact that they freely gave that information up is the problem.

[@jasonsachinger3276]

This^^^

[@rolfstuh]

Same for your microsoft and apple devices. The gov have masterkeys for thoes devices.

[@bloodmutt]

Most safes with a digital key that don't have physical key backup actually do have a master code it's for if you somehow forget your own passcode normally. But that unfortunately leads to trust issue instances like this.

[@thedaledoe]

Not defending liberty one bit, but just about every safe manufacturer that I've ever dealt with has a master code or key for every safe they make. Generally, intended for helping get into a safe where you lost/forgot the code/key or say you died and your family needed to get access.

[@golfdadontherampageiv4163]

this is why you replace any digital lock mechanism with a mechanical dial

[@ADAMKRO]

FACT: Liberty was under NO obligation to provide the code, inexcusable. Thank you Brandon for bringing this to our collective attention. Incidentally, For Sale: Liberty safe, gently used, make an offer. Thanks

[@Bigol_Jimbo]

you can pay me like 200 bucks and I'll move it.

[@N1c0T1n3__]

And this kids, is why "full product ownership" is important. As this is a "physical product with a digital component", Liberty Safe owns the rights to everything digital and you don't own anything digital, you get a "license" to use it, so they're well within their rights to "give out" the said "digital information" which unlocks your safe. If it was a physical key, they would've been sued to oblivion. Same with the new electric Mercedes Benz where you don't even get to ride it at full speed without paying extra.

[@bubbatools6701]

​@N1c0T1n3__ the government is trying to take more control everyday, they are economically owned by the fed, who can interest rate our government out of existence, the FED is not a democracy, they only want control and will take it

[@Zociety6477]

I'll trade you an already fucked chicken

[@thomasmills3934]

​@@Bigol_Jimbofellow mover? I'll bring the kick-back.

[@howdythere2419]

Its horrifying to think that theyll just turn you over.

[@ramzankadyrov6035]

Not really with all that’s been going on.

[@airsoftdude36]

Apple did the same thing. Not that that's surprising since they're owned by China.

[@adammanning8882]

Turn you over like they’re Bill Cosby and you’ve already had your night night drink

[@eeayquetting5963]

And then once they're done with you they'll turn you back over and use the other side

[@Sujad]

Companies will always roll over for the government.

[@arandomchannel3687]

This why guys gotta be in Congress, presenting the FACTS

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

He's not going into Congress lol he's going into the House of Representatives

[@fivebrosstopmos]

@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 bro

[@BrandonHerrera]

@@wisemankugelmemicus1701That’s…that’s congress ❤️

[@bobward7489]

​@@wisemankugelmemicus1701I have no words..........

[@BigWheel.]

​@@BrandonHerreranoooooooooo it's the house of representatives!

[@cousinzeke4888]

The FBI failing to get into the safe could've been a HUGE marketing win, instead they did this.

[@StromBugSlayer]

And in what fantasy land would the FBI have failed to just tear the door off?

[@michaelparker9918]

The FBI didn’t “fail” to get into it they just couldn’t get into it without potentially damaging what might be inside it so they wanted Liberty to give the code instead. If they wanted to get into a safe they absolutely could.

[@stevensmutko1408]

@@StromBugSlayer The one where you have an actual good safe made of hardened 2" high carbon steel.

[@warwolf383]

Fucking this. Absolutely this... lol

[@navyanikii]

​@@Anoneemus_Noenayme Either that or in case of emergencies you could go for a boating trip. Happened to a buddy of mine,lost all 18 of his guns and ammo in a boating accident

[@blackcellagent]

Liberty Safes will never recover from this, and rightly so. They violated the highest of trusts. Trust is one of the hardest things to earn.

[@mbash7887]

There shouldn't even be a master code to give out. This is a HUGE problem.

[@Auburnfan2008]

That's what I'm asking. Why is there a master code? Did they disclose this vulnerability to their customers ahead of time?

[@jimf1964]

For people who forget the code and can’t get in is one reason.

[@SpectrumRob]

I bet an enterprising company could make a ton of money reconfiguring liberty not so safes.

[@seymourbutz6951]

You have no clue how many people know that master code. Tons of locksmiths. Are you guys actually that gullable ? Oh right i forgot the demographic.

[@jimf1964]

@@SpectrumRob I have absolutely no idea if that’s something super hard or easy to do, but if it’s easy? Hell ya.

[@powwowken2760]

As a Canadian with zero dog in the 2A fight... Yeah, any safe company (gun or otherwise) caught handing out a master code without being forced by law should absolutely be dragged through the mud and boycotted into oblivion. As you said, a safe is literally supposed to be "safe", that's the whole point.

[@mikem1457]

Point is there should be NO MASTER CODE! Safe is safe. For who in God's name why they built in a back-door access.

[@mikem1457]

Also... the feds just called up to Liberty Safes fingers crossed, that they had access, OR knew it the whole time? Like what information does a low level employee have access to in production, that they can piss off, and tell someone, hey I can tell you how to get in that safe.

[@robertb6768]

I mean, why does a master code even exist? Were customers informed that these master codes existed?

[@robertlawson698]

That's probably the next thing the Canadian(and U.S.)government will want to outlaw; the possession of gun safes!

[@alexb7641]

It’s actually 4th amendment, but idk anything about riding moose’s or squeezing maple syrup out of yaks either.

[@JakeCWolf]

Brings a whole new meaning to Big Ben Franklin saying; "Those who trade liberty for security, deserve neither."

[@SKATEtime41]

Beautifully stated

[@kidtruck9157]

"And will lose both"

[@KingMaraxus]

"-and lose both" Can't forget the cherry on top

[@Necronmage]

God damn!

[@oxide9679]

So, if I trade my Liberty safe for a Security®️ safe, I don't deserve either? 😭

[@bigbarrettbob]

I know one thing... if unmarked Feds roll up to my place like that, I'm calling the Sheriff dept and refusing entry.

[@justforever96]

You can't "refuse entry" if they have a warrant. That's not how that works. I mean you can try but they will just force entry. You can try to shoot them but they will just shoot you back. That's what a warrant means. Ever heard "come back when you have a warrant"? The Sheriff can't and won't stop Federal Agents with a search warrant from entering your house.

[@zstewart]

Keep in mind: this isn't _just_ about feds. If a backdoor exists, you are one silly data breach away from every criminal in the world being able to google the backdoor code to you gun safe, thus making a safe with backdoor codes useless against both feds _and_ criminals.

[@zstewart]

All you had to do was _not_ implement a system of master/backdoor codes. Even a subpoena can't force you to give up information that you don't have.

[@Chris_Garman]

Some 13 year old probably figured it out, now that the whole world know a back door exists.

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Liberty and thê men who died on that day

[@rucker69]

@@budget-88 quit spamming, bot.

[@JD-tn5lz]

Bwahahahaha. No, we just take out our tools and open it in five minutes and you'll have this big hulk of steel and junk in your house. Psstt. It's sort of expected that suspects might not open the safe (you'd be surprised to know that most do) so we're usually well-prepared to break it. So it's a great "I told you so" moment we get to share. Fact is, we're getting paid and the search warrant is a command from the court to search...and you need a new safe😆

[@Generik97]

Liberty Safe: "We believe in the 2A." Also Liberty Safe: "Unless the government gives us a piece of paper that says they gave themselves permission to take your property."

[@felipemontero1087]

Worst part, they didn’t even asked for a paper, just rolled over

[@RonaSpreader]

@@felipemontero1087 no paper it was a phone call.

[@trailblazer632]

Paper? They got a fucking text message 😂

[@Mitsuolevel]

Red flag states are a thing unfortunately

[@Bialy_1]

Funy, how Americans nowday do not have a problem that the master code exists in the first place... You literally have no idea how many people know this code, someone can open the safe and plant stuff and from legal point of view you put that there because there is no sign of tempering with the safe... I remember when my friend older broder came to help with my PC and he wanted to go into BIOS that was protected by password and he just used master code... that was pre internet times and we were living in a tiny place far from big cities and "real hackers".

[@umbrellabiohazardcounterme9007]

The fact there is a back door code at all is absolutely insane to me. I’m kind of glad I passed on one recently

[@Astraeus..]

Realistically speaking there would have to be. Otherwise something as simple as a lost/forgotten combination basically renders it completely worthless to it's function. With a dial/lock system an experienced locksmith/safesmith would be able to get in with a bit of time and the right equipment (without damaging the mechanisms, that is) but with a digital keypad it's far more practical to just have a master code that let's you bypass the whole thing... Having said that, I would have at LEAST expected it not to just be an actual code that literally anybody could use if they had it. It would make a lot more sense if there was some kind of device that the manufacturer has where they could send one of their guys out, he'd access the safe via said device and get it open that way, sort of like a digital universal key. The way they've done it here, now that those cops have the code they can literally just open ANY of Liberty Safe they feel like (or maybe just any of that specific model, but still, it's a problem...)

[@A.B.5KRVw]

​@@Astraeus.. Agreed. There are also additional possible solutions. Like a master code that opens the safe but only after a substantial timeframe like 7 days or something. So this would prevent the code from being used in theft, but also making the safe recoverable in worst case scenarios. An additional possibility would be a biometric scan of the owner with a master code. The biometric scanner that is stored in the manfaturer company would encript the mastercode stored by the company and could only be decoded with biometric scan of the owner. So the owner would basically need to unlock the "administrative" opening of his/her own safe.

[@ThunderbirdAnthares]

modern devices without measures like that are actually pretty rare you need factory and service level access for most things controlled by electronics... though there ARE security devices specifically without those included, they have their own classification from what i was told... and what often happens is that the customer bricks it, and then calls the company a bunch of scammers for refusing to fix it for them

[@jefferylorick7423]

Anything Glenn B or Hannity are selling I am NOT buying.

[@pantygnome]

Watched a video earlier on how to replace a safe keypad. The referenced replacement parts advertise the amount of codes built in, and there are no less than 2 codes (some products have 3 or 4). So even if you replaced the keypad after the fact, *someone* *somewhere* has a backup code for the keypad you are using. The only thing I wonder about at this point is if there is a way to flash the memory to remove ALL codes, then somehow flash new codes into all the memory slots meant for codes. At that point the factory won't know your backup code anymore.

[@briannicholas2757]

And you can rest assured that the FBI agent, who was given the master code for Liberty Gun Safes, shared that code with every FBI office in the country.

[@GregGoode-s3n]

Which also means every ATF office has the codes, which means it has leaked to the the criminal element, which means your liberty "safe" is now a liberty cabinet. Good luck.

[@adamkluckner3429]

The fact that in most states police require a second search warrant for any additional locked containers makes this even worse

[@proud_emmerian6510]

But these are the Feds, so they get away with it.

[@oldtanker4860]

It seems the safe was listed in the original warrant from what was said here on the video and in the statement from Liberty Safe. If that is the case,no second warrant is needed. Now if they found a safe they did not know about then they might have needed to get an amended warrant depending on the verbiage of the original warrant.

[@Steel-Pinnings]

I'm a locksmith and I had the po po come asking if I can get a safe open. I simply say of course I can get in a safe and likely not damage it either. But I am not about to do that without a warrant stating that I am to open said safe, not a search warrant for a property somewhere, when the safe is in the back of a pickup. 😊 I am sure they took an angle grinder to it soon after they left the parking lot. 🙄

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Liberty and thê men who died on that day

[@JD-tn5lz]

Hahahaha. Nope. Not true at all. I guess we found our YT lawyer. Go do some learning. Also, newsflash. FEDERAL warrant.

[@butchbroussard8468]

Whenever Apple gets a demand from any law enforcement agency to unlock an iPhone, Apple consistently tells them to go pound sand. It should be the same with cases like this.

[@bojik2616]

Unless it's china

[@chrisspelhaug37]

Until they get a signed warrant, they they unlock the phone.

[@wonderbread6100]

​@@chrisspelhaug37yup, I can confirm this. Crazy what info apple will drop on a dime.

[@randydewing7429]

@@chrisspelhaug37 No. Apple has to comply with a warrant, but they don’t have a back door for your phone. They make sure they can’t open it (without wiping it, anyway), because they know you expect them to protect your privacy.

[@belaolson8172]

@@randydewing7429if Apple cared so much about keeping my data secure then why do I have virtually no rights to the information stored on my iPhone unlike Android where I can plug it into my computer and move files as I please?

[@motorcyclestig8539]

Imagine if liberty safes said no to the feds how much their stock would have went up. Now companies know what to do when the feds call.

[@matthewstreit1650]

@@bmo72I don’t think it’s a public company, but correct me if I’m wrong.

[@Sci_X1]

And when the feds try forcing the door open and fail they can call it fed proff

[@motorcyclestig8539]

@@Sci_X1 so true they really missed a golden opportunity to make money hand over fist and instead tanked the company.

[@DrivinghardOregon]

HHMM, i dont think it would have even made the news if they said fuq off. because most people would have already thought that their gun safe would be only accessed by themselves. highly doubt anyone thought this was even a possibility. i mean if they said no the fbi wasnt gonna tell anyone, whoch would have left liberty to break the news themselves. which again most people would go "yean, and. you want a pat on the back for no giving away my provacy?" NOPE, the only way this makes news is by them doing what they did.

[@DrivinghardOregon]

@@Sci_X1 the feds would not have failed, they would have destroyed everything to get into it. and with the warrant, pretty sure theyd be allowed to. and it would be on you for the damages. as you didnt give up the code, even facing a warrant......

[@johntimmins2551]

They deserve even MORE pressure. They deserve to go right out of business. Sue the shit out of them also.

[@fokker1138]

The biggest problem is that Liberty Safe had backdoor codes to give the FBI in the first place.

[@____________838]

Iirc, those backdoor codes are there for when you’ve forgotten your own codes, for whatever reason.

[@travisgravelle7687]

Not uncommon for safe and lock makers to have a master key. for emergency use, repairs, and testing. Most just don't hand it out like Halloween candy.

[@240pixel]

Considering a huge number of their customers forgets their combo on a daily basis I see why would they have one.

[@CyrusFreeman]

Never use an electric lock… This is exactly why

[@jtroulston6733]

I mean the safe I have came with extra keys you can user if the battery runs out

[@HeisenbergFam]

Bro's running for Congress and he still does gun meme review, absolute mad lad

[@jeremymcbride]

this is why we will vote for him - true to self

[@VespasianJudea]

Ah, dankula fan eh?

[@BigWheel.]

I've never touched my balls and I can prove it.

[@RedMatthew]

This is the way

[@phuckyou6314]

He’s a sigma chad bru ong af

[@Montu96]

Class Action Lawsuit. That's the only way to teach Liberty Safe a lesson. Hit them where it hurts the most, right at their pockets.

[@-imperatorinsomnia-6163]

I don't know if they do have one but an arbitration clause would probably work out better allowing utilizing mass arbitration. Juries and judges have historically excitedly come out in favor of LEO action.

[@Matt123a]

No.... there's another way to teach them. Budweiser: What did you do??? Liberty Safes: You see, the cop asked nicely :) All Gun Owners: Where's my pitchfork?

[@strangelyukrainian7314]

People already are, their competition’s stock prices just skyrocketed

[@c_lo01]

Anyone that knows about this and owns these safes needs to refund them all. Get your money back and buy an old time non electric safe.

[@rick5078]

Or flat out stop buying their safes, like everyone did with buttwiper when Anheuser-Busch thought it would be a good idea to go woke.

[@alchemistTi]

Liberty needs to publicly provide instructions for how to change/disable the back door code if they want any chance of recovering from this. And immediately.

[@robertpack5725]

Does Liberty even begin to understand how badly they’ve screwed themselves?

[@charlesmarks8523]

@robertpack5725, I would have to say no at this juncture. I say that only because I think that, like the folks over at Anheuser Busch, the people in their PR and Marketing departments are likely in denial and telling the top brass that "we can get ahead of this and fix it," or "it will blow over in a couple of news cycles..." AB f'ed around and found out, and it appears that Liberty will, too.

[@ryv2484]

Tune in next week to see what can of worms we will open next!

[@melissarmt7330]

They've done the f*&^ around part and are about to find out.

[@sirg-had8821]

They're about to find out.

[@SegoMan]

Another Bud light moment in corporate America..

[@USAirsoft]

This is why I recommend people just bury their guns around their cities. You never know when you’d need a flamethrower or some body armor while on a jog.

[@MrSlopywaffle115]

USAirsoft being absolutely Based. Im here for it

[@zurnie]

Just don't go jogging while using said flame thrower... blow back is a bitch

[@dand33911]

Cities? Lol

[@Windinhisface]

This…just…yes…God bless you ❤

[@charlesbryson7443]

Sealed pvc pipes, lots of lube, random location buried in the woods while your cell phone is at home and using a vehicle with no gps installed.

[@coltondillon2380]

We need to make sure Liberty Safes go out of business. Zero tolerance policy for companies doing this to us anymore.

[@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298]

This kind of crap happens all the time, especially with ISPs, VPNs and phone companies giving the police/feds personal data with out so much as a warrant. No telling how much goes on behind the scenes that we never hear about.

[@angeldesigns1385]

Without even trying, I’ve been able to literally avoid every single one of these junk brands that have hopped on the politically correct bandwagon. That’s because literally everything in my home, including my home, wasn’t made or built past 1965 (when everything was made in the U.S.A.🇺🇸) with the exception of my guns, safe, and cellphone…this is a complete spit in the face to the entire 2A community who were convinced that liberty safes, would be an asset to common sense, safety precaution, and peace of mind!… I already have plans to leave mine in front of the local liberty store location this weekend, and I truly want to see them go under ASAP!!! 🚀✨🚀✨🚀 FJB🇺🇸

[@knuckledraggingbreeder7721]

Especially now that it's come to light they donate to anti 2A politicians!

[@CageyTroller]

what's funny is mostly all safes are designated with their own master code based on the touch pad given. and sometimes each locking mechanism has their own at the end of the day. just take out all visible serial numbers replace lock and you're all good to go. anyways i'll gladly take anyones liberty safe off their hands after i do that following process

[@B34STLYF1GHT3R]

When a money hungry phone company defends you better than a company that manufactures something to hold the tools to defend yourself.

[@mountainhobo]

Two lessons here: (1) Never buy from Liberty Safes (2) Only buy a mechanical lock safe

[@henrybierman8431]

3. Actually use your guns

[@kurtisschulz3327]

Would a mechanical lock also have a master code? I mean I know shit about locks and own no guns any more, terrible sail boat accident. The wind just made us barrel roll. And I lost everything. Don't even remember the lake to go look 😢. All I have now is a Sword and axe. Luckily the axe was in a log from earlier and the sword was at the blacksmith.

[@ld2048]

​@kurtisschulz3327 it would have to be tied to the safes serial number, if the code got leaked, they would have to recall the safes

[@MC_605]

If it’s just a key safe they would just give the government a set of keys for ur safe after all they make the lock and keys.

[@MC_605]

@@henrybierman8431ok let’s see how well u do against 25 government trained killers in full kit knocking down ur door while ur on the toilet lmao. They don’t tell u they are coming. These dudes are hoping u pull a gun so they have an excuse to light ur ass up hell they lit ppl up that weren’t even armed before.

[@tumultuoustenets1228]

I'm disgusted at any company that rolls over at an alphabet agency without a warrant or court order. Where is due process? Where are our rights?

[@JD-tn5lz]

Newsflash. It only a few minutes for a properly equipped and trained LEO to break a safe. Takes me about five. Proper tools are available at any decent hardware store. You'll never use the safe ever again. It'll literally be Broken. Unless an atrorney can prove the warrant was based on knowingly false statements, the LE agency is not buying you a new safe either. Even if you're never convicted or charged. So. Yeah, Liberty maybe could have drug their heels for the ten minutes it'd take to receive a subpoena...but most LEOs would just say "eff it and eff them" then open it in a destructive way. So bash Liberty all you want, but when it's all said and done they actually did the dude a favor.

[@austindecker7643]

They have been gone since 1920

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Liberty and thê men who died on that day

[@hawkeyeted]

Liberty gave the code to the FIB after they obtained a warrant. The issue is, the FIB is getting warrants on anyone who was a the Capital on J6, regardless of guilt.

[@vulpsturm]

The company that owns Liberty Safe is owned by a company that donates to Democrats nearly 100%.

[@azurplex]

Antique safes without electronic locks just went up 1000x in value.

[@lordzaboem]

Mechanical safes can still have master codes. The way to reset your master code is to have a locksmith change it (or know how to do it yourself). That goes for both electronic and mechanical systems.

[@nnamggiFellauQrD]

​@@lordzaboemdoes every safe got a master code?

[@Kr0noZ]

@@nnamggiFellauQrD No, there may be a code set that ALWAYS works but it isn't a requirement of the lock system, just something manufacturers may do for convenience. If you have a purely mechanical safe, you potentially can have a locksmith rebuild the mechanism so there are no "master combinations", but that could be expensive and of course... requires you to trust the locksmith in question. In general terms, electronic locks are bad for consumers (you never know what goes on inside the electronics) and mechanical systems need to be from a trusted source. Downside? If you ever lose the key, you have to bust the safe yourself to get in as there are no backups, which is likely why this "master key/code" even started existing.

[@dorogomiloff]

@@nnamggiFellauQrD no, but as a customer you might not even know about it. Mind you, I'm not an expert on locks, but if a lock allows a master key it means that said lock has two sets of pin positions to open it. So it's WAY more vulnerable by default. that's assuming the lock itself is really good. And when it comes to electronic locks... It's not just "another key" to open it. It can be brute-forced, it can be easily copied if it's a card/car key and if it's a shit enough lock it can be opened with a strong magnet.

[@nobodynoone2500]

Nah, they are super easy to crack. There are yt vids on it.

[@RaymondCovino-vn6lz]

As I was cleaning my gun safe this morning, organizing some firearms, organizing some ammunition in to groups, i came online and checked your channel and i'm happy that my safe requires an actual key and that now, i'm not looking at upgrading to a liberty safe.

[@Joutube_is_trash]

A backdoor access code that any disgruntled employee with access to could just drop onto the internet permanently compromising the security of their product. Neat.

[@CHmLgN]

A safe company that, by definition, doesn't sell safes. Probably gonna work just fine for them.

[@richardbrooksshnee]

Ehh, with any luck the master codes are at least tied to model# if not the serial#... but... yeah... very nice color

[@vjaceslavsavsjaniks6431]

the only lock that noone can pick is welder

[@robertmorris8997]

@@vjaceslavsavsjaniks6431 Yeah but then you gotta weld and un weld all the time.

[@4NaturesStory]

It’s a code based off the serial number.

[@MrGray-dx8sw]

Never thought I would be embarrassed about owning a liberty safe. Liberty hold my budlight.

[@VAPhillyFan54]

Put the bud in the safe and masterlock the fridge. LOL

[@perserverance719]

Serious, I am with you on that statement.

[@1950Archangel]

Get you a SecureIt safe... Much better system; and you won't get to thinking everything is safe in your "safe"! (Dja know that safes are made with two sheets of steel and WALLBOARD ion-between them? WALLBOARD -- you know the chalky, paper-covered stuff on your walls? -- does NOT stop fire from damaging whatever's IN the safe; and wallboard OUTGASES a corrosive -- great air for your lovely guns!

[@NYPATRIOTBX]

@jimbeam5718 Sargent & Greenleaf is what I replaced my electronic lock with.

[@chrisw-y6y]

From C K on X: Liberty Safe was sold to Monomoy Capital Partners in 2021, a liberal East Coast investment firm. I pulled the FEC reports on the company and found approximately $400,000 over the last 10 cycles of max donations to Democrats like: Raphael Warnock in GA John Fetterman in PA Mandela Barnes in WI Mark Kelly in AZ Liberty Safe’s current CEO, Justin Hillenbrand, was a founding partner of Monomoy and donated $4,600 to Obama for America. And we're supposed to be surprised they betrayed their customers to the FBI as quickly as humanly possible? Boycott Liberty Safe.

[@MarcusSoja-e5l]

Does anyone remember about 8 to 10 years ago when almost all Liberty build safes switched from dial combinations to e-lock keypads? This was my first thought as to why.

[@bobwilson758]

Agreed - I won’t have it ! Unacceptable …

[@devmeistersuperprecision4155]

I hate digital keypads. Nothing leaves a better trail of digital bread crumbs!!!!!! And it locks out its owner if it has a digital back door override. You want mechanical tumbler locks.

[@damnationcfw1669]

so does your phone too, every conversation, location, photo is all accessible by the feds with the click of a button. they even actively track US citizens using facial recognition @@devmeistersuperprecision4155

[@adamjankowski4315]

A tumbler lockset better be group 2 or better@@devmeistersuperprecision4155

[@STRAKAZulu]

Sounds like right around the time the company was bought by a hard-Left leaning financial group, who donated to Obama’s and Hillary’s campaigns.

[@captainstabbin1230]

This company shouldn't just go out of business, but be sued into oblivion.

[@nemoexnuqual3643]

I wonder if other safe companies will all do the same thing. We may need to punish Liberty safes to extinction in order to ensure other safe manufacturers to figure it out and protect citizens.

[@jamesmcelhaney5084]

After the push back (push up ?) Liberty is gonna get over their indiscretion, others in the business of gun safes will probably review their policies to ensure they don't Bud Light.

[@themarksmn4181]

I'm liking the "Punish to Extinction" model.

[@drswaqqinscheckingin7210]

it's called a boycott

[@casualcausalityy]

​@@drswaqqinscheckingin7210It's called a brand abandonment. Boycott suggests company changes could result in customers returning

[@JaedoDrax]

To ask the question is to answer it...

[@rex8255]

As someone who grew up in Silicon Valley, the "master passcode" is what's known as a "back door" in Software. And if ANYONE ever finds it, expect the entire world to know about it in short order.

[@goldenhate6649]

You better believe now that its out in the open, every hacker alive is drooling over hacking into their database

[@rex8255]

@@goldenhate6649 I wouldn't be surprised to find they'd already done it.

[@douglasscovil3447]

apparently any criminal could just call Liberty Safes on the phone and say they have a search warrant, then demand the master passcode and get it without a problem. then that criminal would have access to any digital safe that was manufactured by Liberty. i suspect this has already happened but the company never said anything about it. i wonder how many people who own these digital safes have had their safes cracked and robbed, but were unable to figure out how it was done.

[@MarcPagan]

The movie "War Games" keys on the software back door. Not a must watch, but good fun.

[@ericalbers4867]

Unfortunately they exist in every form of tech. Your computer, phone, smartwatch, smart security, security cameras, everything. Windows has numerous backdoors. Hell, some computer manufacturers, after finding out the feds were intercepting some computers in transit to write in backdoors or bug them, opted to simply work with the feds and write them in for them. The only thing that doesn't have any intentional backdoors (though some zero days still exist) is many Linux distros. Not all, I'm sure Ubuntu and some of the larger company ran options likely do. Gentoo doesn't, Arch, and many others don't considering the amount of independent eyeballs looking at the code for such things and many others. Certain manufacturer roms of Android have tried, some succeeded (not through Google but through the carrier roms and some phone manufacturers) but the voice is public for the vanilla roms and rooting allows you to remove it. Unless it's in a locked bootloader which you'll only find on a carrier phone, not an unlocked version you buy outside your carrier - which I highly suggest for numerous reasons if you can afford the cost all at once. Of course there's AT&T and Room 641A.. or the NSA watching the entire internet, even encrypted connections. So anything you send or receive is known to them. Thanks Bush. Thanks Patriot Act and boomers who cheered it on.

[@basildraws]

If they actually gave out the master code to ALL their safes, or even ALL of only one model, they're in for a MASSIVE class action.

[@NogrimStoneson]

from people who own one, AND, more importantly, the share holders who are going to watch their stocks go to near zero in the aftermath

[@ML-sc3pt]

Yup. No longer a safe if the code isn't private

[@sumoneelse6881]

They obviously did give out the master code. The customer would change the code as soon as they take possession.

[@lxxsxxx7845]

The question is: is there 1 master code for all safes or for each safe separately? Whey you call as a customer to unlock your safe, they ask you for the safe serial number and then they give you the factory unlock code. But I thought that was 1 code per serial number, not 1 code for every safe ever made. FWIW, I am debating the actual CODE here, not defending the yelly-belly libtard betrayal by Liberty Safe's treasonous employees.

[@sues1563]

I presume there is no master code with the old school tumbler lock, right? (Well, I mean besides safe cracking😮 )

[@analoghack4117]

Is that not technically a violation of our right to privacy? If they were not forced by some bs red tape, (also unconstitutional) then they just gave away your privacy with no regard. . .unconstitutional much?

[@dariusjonsson2358]

im surprised they arent getting sued. having a master code to your safe floating around renders it useless.

[@ctcollinthib]

I'm down for a class action. I'd like to be compensated for paying for a 'safe,' when I was sold a 'cabinet.'

[@ZeroInfiniti2]

hit em with a class action lawsuit seems pretty good, especially if there's no mention of a "master code" in any documentation

[@bradprice8040]

​@@ZeroInfiniti2yep. That is a major security flaw.

[@DarkFox2232]

Those codes serve singular purpose as stated by one of their clients. Because when he forgot his code and ask them for possibility of using some "backup", they told him to get locksmith.

[@abcdef-l2c8t]

And they have the gall to put 'liberty' in their name. At this point it's a pattern, grifters and posers are more likely to have such "on the nose" appeal in their name to a certain ideal. Just buy from a company called "o'brien and sons" or something.

[@interestingoldthings4889]

Old-timey safe manufacturers did not record the combinations. It was written on a piece of paper that you got with the safe on delivery. If you forgot it, even the manufacturer couldn't help, even under subpoena.

[@zawwin1846]

The problem is that accidents happen. Small children or pets can get stuck and the time it takes to forcefully open it can lead to death. It would be a huge liability and likely lawsuits for the company.

[@davidburns5374]

@@zawwin1846 That did happen not long ago and they had to cut the safe open.

[@iamepick1]

​@@zawwin1846at least make it different depending on what safeand store em all by serial number

[@interestingoldthings4889]

I have done so, with a floor safe door that I found in a field behind a demolished 7-11.@@Anoneemus_Noenayme

[@bwofficial1776]

@@zawwin1846 Kids and pets are trainable. Besides, why would you be leaving your safe open unsupervised?

[@noahdoyle6780]

My wife used to work for Brinks. Their driver had picked up the contents of an ATM at a scrap metal dealer, and was still on site when the cops showed up to raid the place for buying stolen catalytic convertors. Cops said 'give us the cash', Brinks said 'nope, get your lawyers to call ours' and sat there until the suits had hashed it all out, about 6 hours. Which ia more than Liberty Safe did.

[@caulkins69]

What happened in the end? Did they have to hand over the cash?

[@denzellizasuain563]

​@@caulkins69yea

[@MrVeps1]

@@caulkins69probably, civil asset forfeiture means you only have property rights until the police says "we suspect there's something shady going on here"

[@christineshotton824]

These days the cops would just shoot them and steal, err, I mean "confiscate" the money.

[@Jtoob-z5n]

@@MrVeps1then your rights just diss 😊

[@kimbersal1]

I’m so glad I ran across this video tonight, as I am currently shopping safes. You just made my list a lot shorter! And yeah, they definitely crossed a line that should never be crossed.

[@glashoppah]

The worst part of this isn’t that they sold someone out. It’s that a backdoor *exists*. Major security fail.

[@chriswood9836]

And now everyone with that safe knows that they are compromised

[@resmores]

​@chriswood9836 its any safe... a legal subpoena was the next step and for legal reasons companies usually comply.

[@cobytang]

I have bad news for you, bud.

[@0Ciju0]

@@chriswood9836 which is a good thing, is it not?

[@SideStrafed]

@@resmoresI doubt the subpoena would’ve gotten approved though. The guy hadn’t committed any crimes in except just being there on J6

[@danielball959]

well, LIberty Safes claims to remember the 2nd Amendment, but they don't seem to quite grasp Amendments 4, 5, or 6.

[@GraySlicerAnimations]

Haha nice

[@idanthyrsus6887]

Too many of you midwits jizz when liberty is in the product name 😢

[@johnybraxel7285]

Now Liberty Safe also busted sending money to anti-gun candidates...

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Liberty and thê men who died on that day

[@TemplarMedic]

Right?

[@buff34x]

The Quartering had a follow up video too that showed the parent company of liberty safes has been maxing out donations to far left/ anti-gun politicians every year too. I'd recommend checking it out as well since he called around and looked into several other safe companies to compare them.

[@forsakenquery]

Upvote this comment

[@westcoaststacker569]

Probably to lobby for gun safe laws.... just to sell more safes. UGH.

[@dallinolsen8984]

Not surprised. I worked there and left a year ago cuz they brought in some Californian indi business men, that were “supposed” improve production. Instead everything went down hill.

[@Generichjm]

Quartering of soldiers? Oh wait, that’s not the fourth amendment

[@Scarredfan]

Have all digital dials replaced with an S&G manual dial immediately! So glad i went with Heritage Safes 30yrs ago

[@galenmarek8816]

Anyone with a liberty safe safe, must immediately return their safe and demand their money back! this is how you destroy traitors!

[@tjaarmiens]

Will have to be by a class action for reimbursement. I’m here looking for where I can sign one.

[@Caannnnoonn]

I issued a chargeback with my CC company and told them the product was faulty. Got my $2,500 back earlier this afternoon.

[@TrippooDew338]

I had one on the way set to be here next week. Called them today to cancel the order and tell them to refund me. They didnt like my answer when the asked why i was canceling the order.

[@galenmarek8816]

@@TrippooDew338 Well they only have themselves to blame, right?

[@thepyrodude]

​@@TrippooDew338fantastic 😂

[@tombstoneranch69]

I just cancelled a special order through Cabelas. They told me I wasn't the only one cancelling orders. Liberty safe should have been a LOT quicker at delivering on orders. The girl at Cabela said that I might get a call from Liberty HQ. Oh MAN I sure hope they do call.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Oh boy this is a Bud Light situation, there is gonna be A LOT of cancelled orders

[@Papamte]

I would love to be there when that call comes in!

[@tombstoneranch69]

@@Papamte Th girl had no idea what is going on, and I didn't tell her. I highly doubt I'll get a call, although in regular times I'm sure I would. She mentioned a "restocking fee" so I've put a reversal on the order with the CC company. I'm not paying liberty a penny.

[@tj7636]

​@@tombstoneranch69Give em hell!!

[@ilovelasagna5632]

@@marcogenovesi8570 but the budlight situation was just a bunch of loser who were afraid of a trans person, this is actually bad

[@volundrfrey896]

The fact that liberty safe could give them the codes means that their safes are nothing more than security theatre. There's nothing to prevent anyone from using the same backdoor, and backdoors installed for law enforcement is used constantly by 3rd party bad actors.

[@denzellizasuain563]

Every lock is a security theater for someone who know how to open it that why you more then one security to make the hazzle of stealing more then what you have secured

[@davekay9495]

Yeah but the guy was psycho. He was a criminal. Traitor. They would have blown it up if the code wasn't given. C-R-I-M-I-N-A-L Bet you wouldn't have a problem if it was a democrat

[@epluribusunum6622]

ANY safe with an electronic lock is extremely easy to gain access to. they take me under 15 minutes and I'm only a hobby locksmith. STACK ON GUN CABINETS ARE MORE SECURE!

[@JustMe-gn6yf]

Most gun safes including liberty are cheap metal boxes that are easy to gain entry to the walls are paper thin I've opened them with a screwdriver and sawsall in less than 5 minutes. I'm a safe mover for a locksmith and safe store and would never own these cheap tin boxes

[@juliusomicua3450]

Only they have the master code, safes are not connected to the internet. Master codes are related to the serial number and product code. All that said, you would need to be at the location, know the serial number of the safe and have the actual correct master key -> brute forcing it doesnt work.

[@JLebowski91]

New here. I must say the flawless transitition Brandon often makes into ad reads, is really supreme. It's so smooth, I actually went back 30 seconds to hear it again. Well done.

[@kennethbowers2897]

I pray for anyone who still thinks that it could never possibly happen here in America.

[@thebeagles2025]

And remember.... within the last year, Canadian banks seized private bank accounts just because the government asked them to. It will come to America.

[@thebeagles2025]

And remember.... within the last year, Canadian banks seized private bank accounts just because the government asked them to. It will come to America.

[@jacobseraphin685]

Can’t lie I’m one of them, I’m shocked but I can’t say I’m surprised this happened.

[@WhatWillYouFind]

One overwhelmingly power hungry dictator rises up among the GOP ranks. Dicator uses the current 1000 page MANDATE that just hit the press which is a game plan to completely destroy American democratic institutions and instate authoritarian rule. 9/11 turned America into a policy state EQUAL to china, most people have apple or android phones. It wouldn't even hit the news cycles of the hostile fascist take over of the media " rich will side with it, just as they did in Putins Russia." We are on a very thin line and people don't seem to care.

[@Erraddo]

I thought that entire line of thinking had died in 2001

[@AndyTheCornbread]

The second most disturbing thing about this is that they built a backdoor into their safes at all. It should be, you lost your code, get a hold of a locksmith because we don't have any way to get you in. Basically same response Apple gave, it's encrypted, we can't fix that for you if you don't have the key, there is no back door, we couldn't help you even if we wanted to.

[@lostinthedesert6149]

Like App-hole, they could just say fuck you, we can’t get in either, here let me connect you to our sales dept 🤔🤔

[@maxfield9873]

Even Proton e-mail accounts cannot be opened by Proton if you lose your PW. That IS the answer.

[@robonator2945]

​@@nullnull3553 nope, Signal, LUKS, KDE Vaults, and countless other methods of basic zero-trust systems exist that rely on trusting no other party. The people who *_aren't_* new to technology are the exact people pointing out how ludicrous this is since technology allows cryptography, meanwhile a physical lock can just be picked. Currently even asymetric cryptography is unbreakable for any reasonable key length, quantum computers might break that but Q-safe algorithms are already being tested and standardized, and symmetric cryptography (while still damaged but quantum computing) is largely secure. Digital systems are basically the only ones where you *_can_* be certain they're undefeatable since they rely on mathematical protection. Of course if it's a safe they can always try to physically break in since we can't digitize and encrypt matter itself, but that has lots of other considerations that need to be taken into account. (the reason the FBI asked for the code in the first place was because they COULDN'T get in after all. There is just lots of extra legal, monetary, PR, etc. overhead with attempting to physically break into a safe) I don't think it's exactly new information that the Lockpicking Lawyer exists, but you know who doesn't? The Cryptography-Cracking-Crackhead. A properly implemented digital protection system can quite literally have it's entire whitepaper emailed to everyone on earth, and still be secure with certainty. (again, outside of any physical attacks) On the other hand there is a reason why you're never supposed to say a lock is "unpickable". Physical systems have some benefits, but a lack of methods-for-bypass is not even remotely one of them. If I destroy a lock I get into your house; if I destroy your hard drive then sure I broke your encryption, but I also broke the data I wanted to get too.

[@maxfield9873]

I suppose some asshole can always make it into secure systems. THOSE bastards need to be held liable for 4th amendment breaches in the US anyway. Yup, always some asshole. @@nullnull3553

[@MoreEvilThanYahweh]

@@maxfield9873 Oh boy, you do realise that Protonmail has sold people out to investigators right?

[@saintboulder9453]

...and then, Brandon Herrera started his own safe company and demo Ranch tested to make sure they could stand up to anything.

[@nathanaelellender6495]

I mean, the time is ripe and the connections are there. I mean, Bunker Branding, making hardened storage? Who could have seen that coming.

[@georgehuesler9561]

They could be made even better if Nic the electrician is in charge of all the research and development on it. Every bit of history on every safe ever will be taken into consideration when building Herrera Safes!

[@spicy-slayer]

Made from the same brands of concrete and steel Marvin Heemeyer used for the MK tank

[@jailwood4506]

That sounds like a good idea for him, as another comment said " Herrera Safe." I would Buy the safe.

[@adamsimar7788]

I would buy that safe.!.

[@xfearfactoryx7684]

I was gonna buy a Liberty Safe, but that idea flew out the window. I realize that ALL safes have a master code, but for Liberty Safe to give the FBI the access code when Liberty Safe was not obligated to makes me not want to buy from them.

[@insaneadventures4391]

When the government makes having a safe mandatory, we now know which company they'll deem safe for use.

[@ParadiseConcrete]

Probably none of them to be honest

[@jcgamer892]

@@ParadiseConcrete for the amount of money most gun safe makers are asking....you'd be better off spending that money a welder, some sheet steel, a drill, and key lock......

[@Trog1odyte]

I had a friend that inherited a Liberty Safe when his uncle passed. Liberty told him to either find the code or get a locksmith. He’s now mad that all he needed to so is say the FBI needed it…. or likely the DNC now that their Gestapo arm has it.

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

Depends, if he had inherited it might be an old ass safe and not one of the newer ones with a backdoor code

[@hannenw]

Tell your friend all he has to do now is file a FOIA for it.😂

[@hannenw]

Or file it for him so you can have access to! 😂

[@AIOLiveby]

😄

[@Albatorwow]

Just say the safe was there on jan 6 🤣

[@ScottWaa]

It is almost like our government threw a guy in jail for J6 who wasn't there and didn't respond to text messages. Or tossed two people in jail for a drawing on a piece of metal.

[@pennylane2975]

Haha you'd be surprised to hear how often cops execute people for taking an item from one residence and transporting it to another

[@amberkat8147]

Given that they apparently handed out the MASTER CODE without even a subpoena means we aren't going hard enough.

[@garrettharriman6333]

I think brutal, relentless mockery is *exactly* what they deserve.

[@alansloan7784]

Who? Liberty Safe? The FBI? They both deserve it---and more.

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Liberty and thê men who died on that day

[@stopsign1626]

Or a bullet. Just a thought

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@stopsign1626 in minecraft, definitely in minecraft

[@TheUncleRuckus]

What the 2A community needs right now besides law makers to stop pissing in our faces is someone to start a company that will specialize in retrofitting Liberty Safes locks with brand new locking mechanisms that have no backdoor master codes.

[@ryanlukens9280]

I have heard there are YT videos out there showing people how to change out the electronic locks for another manufacturer. Also, I heard that Liberty now offers to delete the code in their database if you ask. Nothing like closing the barn door after the horse is already out, shot, butchered and served back to you in a well done burger.

[@KronosOnPC]

Maybe uhhh stop letting law makers make unlawful laws... Mouthful yes lol But seriously, 2A is the law and that's all that's to it. No negotiation.

[@prdurnion83]

How about a different safe company altogether? One that doesn't aid the feds in unlawful searches and seizures.

[@Echristoffe]

@@ryanlukens9280yeah like google who said they don’t keep record but in fact kept everything … Database have backup … it’s so easy to lie for this kind of shit … I don’t think liberty safe is gonna be safe from this shit hole …

[@tylerdavis3]

I really can’t imagine any of the other big safe companies don’t have master codes too.

[@michaelbailey8596]

Problem is…. In case someone doesn’t know, Liberty also make safes branded as Cabela’s, Colt, Fatboy, National Security, Sportsman’s Warehouse, Tractor Supply, NRA, and Scheels.

[@ivanmonahhov2314]

So you are saying that if that master code got exposed there would be a.lot.of.unsafe safes ?

[@jacksonkiehn1997]

@@ivanmonahhov2314the master code is based on the safes serial number, it’s not one code for all safes

[@resmores]

They just skipped steps, and saved their attorneys and the federal prosecutors paperwork.

[@AJayAnswersYou]

Let em know!

[@marktwain2053]

​@@resmores AKA - Handing them over with a wink and a smile.

[@chrisaustin6255]

Resist when possible

[@duhdumify]

They deserve to be publicly shamed as hard as possible

[@VespasianJudea]

Good luck on your house run. I wish you luck brother.

[@BrandonHerrera]

It’s not the senate, is the House of Rep. for TX District 23 but thank you!

[@voice2982]

@@BrandonHerrera we could use you in the senate anyway

[@VespasianJudea]

@@BrandonHerrera I changed it 😂😂😂😅😅😅 sorry dude. I’m not a Texan but I wish I was now.

[@irispettson]

@@BrandonHerrera He's just predicting the future. 2026 senate run.

[@VespasianJudea]

@@irispettson 😂 why not? I wish it was a senate run.

[@jonnylakewood7767]

Thanks Liberty Safe for giving us this huge platform highlighting not only 2A but all citizen rights. R.I.P.

[@Mrs.AndMr.LunaMoonChild444]

Welp there goes the "liberty safe in my basement idea" thanks for sharing brotha Brandon! Now I know which brand I'm NEVER purchasing to protect my personal collection. 😎🤟🏼

[@shawnfurness]

Nobody seems to be asking this. Guy was allegedly there at "The January 6th" but what did his gun safe have to do with that? Even if he owned "illegal" firearms, what is the correlation there? This is absolutely insane!

[@bear_trap107]

Yeah, like did they have any evidence of him actually being there during Jan. 6th?

[@axelsommer697]

Exactly

[@bvoyelr]

People store documents and the like in their safes. Plus, it's a fishing expedition. If they can get him on a gun charge as well, all the better for them. It's not like there's anybody out there willing to stop them.

[@charlesbryson7443]

Being there at a protest isn’t supposed to be illegal. If he did nothing against people or property, he did nothing wrong.

[@darthhauler9947]

​@@bvoyelra good lawyer can get the charges thrown out if they find something unrelated to j6 in the safe.

[@bullmilk]

Too many companies are comfortable in their choice to screw over a customer. This is not a first time offense, this is just the first time Liberty was called out on it in a public manner.

[@ericm1839]

at first i thought okay maybe liberty has a master registry of their safe serial numbers and the code associated with each safe, but finding out that there is a master code you can punch into any liberty safe to make it pop open is a huge security concern

[@princeofdeath7696]

Its they keypad manufacture's master code.

[@ericm1839]

@@princeofdeath7696 that's extra concerning. What other products are their keypads in?

[@bojik2616]

Its mostly a failsafe recovery tool for consumer safes. Ib commercial applications owner also has that code master level code (required to add lower codes etc) it takes a lot more typically to change this code. Often there are multiple user codes so of an employee leaves only one code to disable for security purposes.

[@bojik2616]

​@@princeofdeath7696 not always deoenda who takes responsibility for code database holding. Larger safe companies program it at their factory upon install. Smaller companies let the lock manufacturer handle it.

[@gaozhi2007]

But they were all of them deceived. For another code was forged. In the fires of Doom, in the Land of Mordor. One CODE to rule them all.

[@shakostarsun]

Zero respect for warrants is zero respect for the constitution.

[@toddgriffin3037]

You are 100% right. The FBI has no respect for the constitution or warrants.

[@buckduane1991]

On top of that, the government never needs to subpoena for the universal code ever again: they already have it now!

[@jaywhittemore5878]

We are not going hard enough. We need to send a clear message to these companies. I want America 🇺🇸 to be free again

[@germanwarrabbit]

our lives are run by corporations our politicians are run by corporations these corporations do not care about us

[@TheChibitodd]

It's gonna get worse before it gets better . For @libertysafes and the country

[@hellionsmith]

I love how Apple is the only company to tell the 3 letter boys to pound sand because they literally said they don’t want an iPhone hacking tool to fall in the wrong hands

[@adrnacad3434]

They know that’s suicide for the company to allow such a back door to exists.

[@bradleybatt1401]

Apple are elite. Big respect points.

[@dubjubs]

It sucks though because in exchange Apple doesn't support right to repair but then again I don't know of many tech companies that do.

[@thefanification]

@dubjubs said it, but yeah, I dont like apple because they are pretty anti-consumer on the whole, but the whole backdoor program thing I can applaud them for

[@Ninjadaddy777]

Lol. Apple handed over the backdoor key, the day Steve Jobs died. It was Newsworthy for about 4 mins....🤣😂🤣

[@barbdenniswelk7612]

Unbelievable. Is there nothing secure anymore? The company needs to fail!

[@theayeguy5226]

As The Quartering said, "No safe is immune from a corrupt government." But Liberty didn't even ask for a subpoena or a warrant, they just complied.

[@smh9902]

Plan: Buy used Liberty safe on the used market for next to nothing because now they are worthless as a safe. Fill Liberty Save with Kaboomy stuff, connected to a mechanism that arms when the door is shut. If ever the door is opened it, BOOM! Hundreds of pounds of your choice of special mix levels the whole house.

[@762x69]

@@smh9902 you have no idea how proud Uncle Ted would be :)

[@sninctbur3726]

Liberty said the FBI had a warrant. Whether that's an attempt to save their hide is up to you.

[@762x69]

@@sninctbur3726sure, but it was a warrant against the customer. the correct move is for the 3rd party (Liberty) to tell the Feds they need a subpoena for compliance otherwise the Feds at that point can go unassisted in violating that person's 4,5 & 6th amendment rights attempting to open said safe..

[@stompingpeak2043]

​@@762x69in all honesty they would've gotten the warrant or whatever they wanted. They are the government. They can get any paperwork they want. It's kinda sad honestly

[@xaviergonzalez3105]

The worst part is that liberty could’ve turned this into a add campaign bc the FEDS COULDN’T GET IN WITH OUT THE CODE

[@johnstroer]

The safe was getting opened by the feds one way or another. This method was just less drilly.

[@raystanley5126]

Bullseye

[@CodyseusRex]

Ikr massively wasted opportunity😢

[@daa3417]

No the worst part is that there was a FUCKINGMASTER CODE BACKDOOR in the first place.

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Liberty and thê men who died on that day

[@kurtjohnson227]

If you have a Liberty Safe.... go to your nearest locksmith and have it replaced with a mechanical lock. While at the store have them teach you how to use the key to change the combination at will. I'm glad I bought a Hollon!

[@adrian7075]

Underrated comment. Your local locksmith can do so many things. Always knew there was some kind of master to these safes

[@matthewpeck2926]

The master code is probably 0666.😂😂

[@ChrisS-oo6fl]

@@adrian7075 yes genius’s leave your security up to another secondary outside provider. How deep does your naivety go? This is what got so many into this position. Be self sufficient with your own security. Or don’t cry.

[@adrian7075]

@@ChrisS-oo6fl ^this guy doesn’t know how to work on locks or change combos. Lmao. Are you telling me you built your own safe and locking mechanism by hand? Or are you just talking out your ass? Tell me chris

[@joshfischer8570]

This needs to continue on harder; let's be honest this won't be the only time this comes up now and everyone needs to know if you turn on the 2A community then we will turn on you. Support us and we will support you.

[@dallinolsen8984]

I worked at Liberty Safe for a couple of years, just over a year ago I left. The company was bought out by its investors. In 2022 they forced the last of the head guys to retire early. Then they brought in some Indi factory improvement management group. The number of safes made went up and the quality dropped dramatically. I already was predicting they would go bankrupt in the next 8yrs.

[@baomao7243]

I think you meant … MONTHS not years.

[@pickledpeppers1577]

You meant 8 months right?

[@NachoCheese00]

@@pickledpeppers1577 It really shouldn't take that long! Hit 'em Hard out if the gate, and don't let them get back up.

[@yng514]

​@@baomao7243 calm down brother, this was before the controversy. Alot of companies can last awhile with shoddy quality

[@ComotoseOnAnime]

@@pickledpeppers1577 At the rate the memes are coming in, I expect them to fold in 8 weeks. Bud lite was significantly larger than they are, and they lost tens of billions of dollars in like 3 months over something that wasn't nearly as egregious. Bud Lite's marketing campaign was a slap in the face to their consumer base, Liberty safe's fuck up was a dagger to the gut, they're going to *hemorrhage* money over this.

[@SuperAaronbennett]

The next best question the 2A community needs, which safe company WONT give master codes to the Feds?

[@anthonyscrimo]

Better yet, which company doesn’t have master codes

[@Poorehouse]

Buy a safe with mechanical lock. No way to have extra secret embedded codes. Change the combo any time you want.

[@LegDayLas]

@@anthonyscrimo IKR. if they ahve a "master code" then doesn't that mean they actually just gave the feds the code to EVERY Liberty safe? That's what a master code / key is. one thing that unlocks all things.

[@lordzaboem]

If there is only one master code which works on every Liberty Safe, then the FBI already.had that code many years ago.

[@dragoneyeshatesg00gle76]

@@TacticalBytes553 it'll be the master code to all series XXX safes with the same locking mechanism. wont work on series xxy so to speak but the code wont be by each safe individually. there could be 10,000 owners of that make and model of safe who just lost all security (You are expected to swear on it in court that you were sure the safe was secure) should there ever be some legal issue surrounding your safe or its contents.

[@anthonyhaddix3598]

They deserve the full "Bud Light" treatment, and I hope they get it!

[@maxwellcrazycat9204]

The funny thing is that there are company execs out there that will not learn from this and go ahead and Bud Light/Liberty Safe themselves.

[@seanbays1235]

Me too. There either should have never been a master code or it should have been sold with the safe with no record kept by "Liberty" Safe.

[@5pointstar78]

Truly a company that doesn't know their customers. They should be "Bud Lighted", and be made an example of.

[@jasonreiyn9311]

On that subject, I don't understand how a company attempting to get more people to buy their product caused such an uproar. People act like Bud caused everyone who drinks their product gay, or trans or whatever. People don't get upset if they market to Hispanics, or African Americans or Asians, or Women, or Actors, or Police, I really don't understand why a company's effort to get money from another demographic is considered a reason to trash them. It's like people don't believe Trans people exist, or that you don't think you should take thier money.

[@CageyTroller]

what's funny is that mostly all safes are designated with their own master code based on the touch pad given. and sometimes eatch locking mechanism has their own at the end of the day. just take out all visible serial numbers replace lock and you're all good to go

[@julienmartin2646]

I love how Brandon always sneaks in the SDI add. I have the name stuck in my head for life and randomly think of it now. Great advertising haha, but for real this has to be a top 3 favorite youtube channel.

[@MrDixon-]

This one hit home. I worked for Liberty Safe back in the 90's when it was owned by Jay Crosby. Back then, the employees would've walked-out rather than work for a company that would just roll-over. By the way, the current CEO (since June 2022) is....Joe FAIL!! (Wow! Rather appropriate).

[@houseofhas9355]

And now library safe is watching their wife get it on with the ATF. Trying to convince the 2A community that it's not cucking. They have plastic condom aka a Warrant.

[@timothyshank3208]

I believe they should offer full refunds of purchase price for anyone who wants to return their Liberty safe. Let them go 200% bankrupt

[@rambolambo93]

At the very least Liberty has opened themselves up to a very large, very painful lawsuit from the dude that got raided lol

[@jim7498]

There needs to be a class action suit for every owner!!

[@dennisdouglas5941]

Honestly, if the code given to them now opens EVERY DAMM SAFE they make... The safe is no longer safe! Recall them all!

[@jim7498]

@dennisdouglas5941 in my opinion all their safes arnt even worth paper weights.. If I can't get a refund it will become filled with a substance and used for target practice

[@flyingdeathcatsgo]

Someone post the master code online and really hit their bottom line when they have to recall every safe they ever made.

[@cyrusgaming943]

A very Chaotic Evil solution. I love it!

[@radiationraven]

We need a hero!

[@pjtren1588]

Do it... (Palpatine chuckle)

[@bigweatherby]

We need to bring this pressure to any and all that try to take away our rights and Liberties. Glad my safe has a dial.....

[@brettgast]

We aren't going hard enough on Liberty Safe. The deserve every single bit of it.

[@mcblaggart8565]

If I found out my safe was unsecure against illegal search by federal agents (a warrant for a non-crime is legally only a reason to jail the judge who issued it) I would absolutely demand my money back.

[@Kcii-99]

there WAS a crime, its called sedition, look it up

[@TemplarMedic]

Every Liberty Safe owner should demand a refund and return their safes.

[@JD-tn5lz]

Hahahahaahahaha. Good luck with that.

[@martingomez3873]

Apparently their donations to certain politicians are also showing their true values.

[@SegoMan]

Apparently they skipped the 10% to the Big Guy or this still would be a secret..

[@kulaxd8835]

I think this is needed, so companies understand that we the people want to keep are rights and are willing to fight for it

[@TheElephantChumpkin]

Their customer support should be flooded with refund requests. I know I would. In a way they didn't just give the code to that one guy, but violated their promise of privacy to every single customer they have. I wouldn't keep a safe if dozens of thousands of violent strangers had the code to it.

[@Kcii-99]

lol they will just tell you 'purchase is final' refund what?

[@gratefulguy4130]

@@Kcii-99 there may be a legal process that can be started due to violation of security & privacy

[@devlinfoster4503]

Class action lawsuit.

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Liberty and thê men who died on that day

[@Chris_Garman]

@@Kcii-99People bought what they were sold as a safe. As it is not a safe due to the back door existing, they have committed fraud and are required to refund.

[@nathanbiermann4017]

What's more concerning than turning over the code is the fact that there's is a backup code in the first place, anyone could open your safe if they have a code

[@andrehashimoto8056]

Which is the very much OBVIOUS issue with backdoors anyways. The moment there's a way to Bypass the entire Security system merely by GETTING access to the key for the backdoor, the system is less than 50% safe. Yet Humans be Humans, and the average human is BELLOW AVERAGE in smarts, and also bellow average in not being Lazy asses. So anytime a TRULY SAFE DESIGN is made, where it's the USER who will be the one with the sole key for it, 95% of the people will fucking manage to get locked outside that damn thing and be TOO DUUUUUM DUUUUM to UNDERSTAND that the company WASN'T LYING about not having any way to open that thing if the customer lost the keys.

[@11jerans]

Yeah, it’s not much of a safe if the code is just on some database online

[@bluegolisano7768]

tbh so long as it's unique and serialized to each individual safe - because that is the sane and rational thing to do - it stops being nearly as much of a problem.

[@wllwll-zh7ig]

​@@bluegolisano7768it is a master code for every liberal safe. Fed no longer needs to ask anyone because now they have that number and so does every agency. Soon everyone will have access to all liberty safes until it's changed.

[@5oul-Wars]

Digital only products that have codes always have a manufacturer backup used in the construction and testing of the mechanism and to act as a backup in case the customer losses/forgets the user imputed one, but yes liberty shouldn’t just hand over said codes with just a phone call

[@KouZidan]

Until there is accountability for why or how this happened it is safe to assume owning one of their products is a liability.

[@wilemelliott]

I wonder if my old DIAL COMBO Liberty safe has a "back door"...

[@Ethanbrower12]

Even if they apologized and fixed the policy, the fbi has the factory master code, so it would still be a liability. They would need to provide a service to change that code for the customers to fix this

[@facubeitches1144]

Accountability? In modern America? Don't hold your breath on that one.

[@CHRISTOPHERBURKHART-w8p]

YOUR RIGHT, liberty NEEDS TO MADE AN EXAMPLE OF

[@Noobish_Camper55]

Personally, I have a $100 safe that certainly won't stop a determined enough intruder or fed. I accept I am getting what I paid for. When people spend $3k on a safe I'm fairly certain they want that thing to cause the greatest headache possible for any intruder trying to get in with the best destructive methods.

[@JD-tn5lz]

I've broken into plenty of safes (with warrants) and it takes me about five minutes at the most with the right tools. Expensive ones, no matter. A $5k safe isn't usually any better than a $1k safe. If you want a safe, you want a BIG safe and you need to conceal it and bolt it to the floor. That doesn't make it impossible, it just makes it inconvenient.

[@mot0rhe4d40]

And the $3000 folks are gravely mistaken. A $25 angle grinder and 5-10 minutes, will make short work of most safes.

[@mattbarker1411]

​@@mot0rhe4d40Not the harbor freight angle grinder?!?!?!?!

[@Steel-Pinnings]

​@JD-tn5lz Be honest now... you BREAK into safes literally. You destroy the safe to get in. I am a locksmith and a safe is just a more complicated lock. And locks only keep crooks out for a short time.

[@fauxque5057]

@@mot0rhe4d40 Most gun safes, and Sentry safes. I have 4 Mosler, and Diebold TL15 and TL30 safes. You're not cutting through one with an angle grinder. You're not prying the door open. And I doubt 2 dude's are going to carry them off. I think the lightest one is 1200lbs. The doors are 2 inches of steel with a 1/2" anti drill plate where the lock is. The sides are 1" thick steel. One of them has a barrel safe in the bottom part. It came from an old post office. Back to the average gun safe. Lock picking lawyer cut the top off of one with a circular saw and normal blade. They're thin steel with 2 pieces of drywall for fireproofing and either a plastic liner, or a cloth liner Sentry safes can be opened in seconds with a high powered magnet. See Mr. Locksmith here on the Tube for a demonstration.

[@kentcarroll8861]

If the code they gave out really is a "Mater Code" that opens ALL of their digital safes, .....then they don't deserve to sell ANYTHING to the 2A Community: ...They NEED to be out of business!!!

[@TexasSpectre]

If it even opens one model, they don't deserve to sell anything to anyone, 2A community or not.

[@P07H34D]

the keypad isn't unique to just one safe maker

[@daveonezero6258]

@@P07H34Dit is probably an encryption of the serial number.

[@GrizzlyTank]

The fact that there’s even a back door entry to their safes to begin with is extremely concerning.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Liberal democeat government mass human rigjrs vioaltions. Biden regime. Democrat gestapo nazis