Librarius Conclave & Flyblown Death Guard UNDEFEATED!? | The BEST Armies in 40k 1.19.25 Edition

[@mattiasgamin9640]

On the Astra list. The Taurox Prime can only transport Tempestus Militarum Infantry. And Kasrkin don’t have that keyword.

[@TacticalTortoise]

Oh yeah of course I even read the datasheet again to verify and got thrown by the Infantry Character exemption

[@John-ep5cd]

Yeah, one of the command squads joined with the 5 man scion to go into one of the primes. And a straight 10 man in the other prime

[@mattiasgamin9640]

@ Yeah I had to read it a couple of times. Thanks for your great content!

[@colinsherman3775]

Spot on thoughts on my Librarius Conclave list. On the Sterngard, because the Heavy Bolters are 2 damage plus always sustained and the unit rarely is (in practice), the math feels like it works out to much higher than 12 - 16 at the actual table unless you have the one turn where the heavy bolters crap out. It's also neat that 8 dudes in the unit can die and you still have these 2 heavy bolters that are going nuts. Going forward, I will be redoing the Heavy Intercessors or Tiggy and his Bladeguard into a few more tools to play the mission. Thanks for the kind words!

[@brothertobias]

You are a hero, courage and honor

[@_Bayul]

Did you already made any changes to the list?

[@colinsherman3775]

@ I've been focused on Eldar. The main change I'd make is to simply add more stuff. It's too heavy on hammers and doesn't have quite enough units to go play 40k.

[@daskulljuarez6129]

World Eaters Executioner needs to lead a unit to get fights first if any thing it's just a tech piece for character or being another activation for secondaries

[@stevenburton7725]

World Eaters would have done far better at LVO had he not been slow played in the shadow round

[@alexandersmith1264]

So what happened???

[@James-tu8on]

Can't get slow played if you use a clock and if you got to the shadow round and chose not to use a clock then that's on you

[@stevenburton7725]

@ he tried, but the player in question stated he had never timed out before. Of course, that was a lie, and had timed out against other players at LVO. But Brian had faith in people, and that was used against him by a self proclaimed dirtbag who has videos on how to do that very thing

[@James-tu8on]

@stevenburton7725 yeah that sucks if Derek told him he's never timed out. That was an obvious lie. At the end of the day, if you want to do well at a tournament, your defacto stance should be "I always play on a clock". There's too many streamed games nowadays where both players state at the start of the game, oh we won't need a clock, this'll be a smooth game

[@jacintolh9550]

I always put down the clock in tournaments, i don't mind giving some of my time to my opponent, but people sometimes play really slow otherwise

[@jaanoseesti]

Any chance your could cover the Raven Guard list that took 3rd place at the Denver 40K Fight Club January Open 2025?

[@TacticalTortoise]

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[@jaanoseesti]

@@TacticalTortoise thanks dude, total legend!

[@danjones3012]

18:27 outdated data card for the stalker, its only 8" movement now and the twin gauss got changed to a gauss array for 6a 3+ st8 ap2 dmg2 lethal.

[@BenBlanding]

Edit: I mis remembered they count as sternguard for leadership so yeah he must just be running around by himself Original comment: In Dark Angels any unit that can lead blade guard can lead ICC so the Ancient is jumping in there with Azrael I bet.

[@derblockvomdoc809]

Dose the Deathwatch Termis not take 2 🔨 and 🛡 Termis?

[@Minilopo18]

No he prioritised storm bolters so he could SIA them as needed

[@derblockvomdoc809]

@Minilopo18 okay Thx

[@Wes-xk6hl]

So there were parents with the last name Jacobson and they decided to call their son Jacob... Every time I see names like this I think about how crazy it is when parents set a kid up with a name that sounds like a joke for life

[@wyatttyson7737]

Nah, the people at the Grand Nez GT *had* to have been throwing. That Guard list is actually terrible. No real fightpower to speak of, insanely easy to counter with screens, the only unit able to pretend to tank anything is made up of just Guardsmen (the 5+ feel no pain isn’t as good as you think) Must have been 0 Infiltrators (the Space Marine unit) or any other Deepstrike denial, no tanks of any sort, and only elite units.

[@scolack123]

Ironically my librarius conclave led by Guilliman JUST beat my buddy's Flyblown host led by Mortarion a couple days ago gaga 73-64

[@runeh3022]

It's a bit annoying to see the Soul Grinder's big claw's be AP3, D6+2 Dam, while Maulerfiends and Defilers comparably suffer in both regards for some strange reason. :-/

[@TacticalTortoise]

Eh, hard to compare across factions. Daemons have a distinct lack of armor cracking in the faction outside of melee, so it stands to reason their melee profiles would be superior to a faction with vindicators and a plethora of Lethal/Sustain lascannons. Soulgrinders are also significantly more expensive than units like Maulerfiends as a result.

[@runeh3022]

@@TacticalTortoise I did not take cost into account when making my point tbh.. I was more thinking along the lines of the Maulerfiend/Defiler's attacks being somewhat on the silly side just based on models and overall idea. AP 2 is a bit silly un units supposedly designed to help crack open a siege etc. It's not like those two models are in the top half of the codex even with Dark Pacts and even factoring in the potential of the Soulforged Warppack bonuses... :-/

[@swabilius]

Nerfs incoming for marines

[@JamieCottle1]

Take a space marine now make it when you shoot him he's only hit on 6s and wounded on 6s and then give him a 4+ FNP. Yeah, Nurgle's gud. They control the math better than Tzeentch.

[@kevsim70]

I wonder why the Psilencers on the Dreadknights? I thought it was considered inferior to the Incinerator? Am I wrong, or?

[@Zachara-yt]

12 shots rerolling is good when they have sustained hits and the extra range.

[@TacticalTortoise]

It's longer range and statistically better in *most* situations when you're in Hallowed Ground

[@smokeynyc]

As a GK player, it can be frustrating when your incinerators keep rolling 5 shots on the 2d6. Flat 12 is just better against a lot of chaff.

[@undeadjebus]

I’m pretty sure there is an issue with Librarius list. Based on their list it would appear they are putting Draxus with the Heavy Intercessors but that isn’t supposed to give them the disciplines or allow them to use the strats because the units are both “adeptus astartes” and “Psyker” but none of them meet the condition of “adeptus astartes Psyker” Until GW confirms/denies it, at the very least the judges I’ve talked to (a couple ATC judges included) have ruled that Inquisitor Psyker models do not make Librarius abilities work for leading Astartes Battleline. Just wanted to point it out.

[@TacticalTortoise]

Having both ADEPTIS ASTARTES and PSYKER *absolutely* gives you the benefit of both keywords combined. If it didn't work like that there would be no "Adeptus Astartes Infantry" units in the game for example. Ruling that attached Inquisitors do not confer the PSYKER keyword to their unit is asinine houseruling.

[@Acorbet86]

It gives them the required keyword.

[@Damnedlegion40k]

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