Library Spotlight - Cinematic Studio Brass

[@CoryPelizzari]

Thank you Studio One, for not rendering that one repetitions bit properly.

[@5ammy13]

The new version 5.02 fixes all those bugs 😁

[@alexisbarrette7652]

I was about to mention that hahaha. We can still imagine how great it sounded though, given how consistent this library seems to be

[@oceanic7146]

Love how this sounds. As a brass musician myself, this library and Sample Modeling's brass are the closest I've heard to replicating real playing.

[@darrenhirst9900]

That's the hardest part of playing virtual instruments trying to sound like real players like yourself. It's nice to have fun trying.

[@CalebHammerComposer]

Even more than Berlin from OT?? That’s hard to beat

[@SudrianSteam]

How do you think Infinite brass fairs up in comparison?

[@oceanic7146]

@@SudrianSteam As a somewhat recent owner of both Infinite Brass and Infinite Woodwinds, I put them just barely below Sample Modeling in terms of overall quality. So in my opinion, it's: 1. Sample Modeling/Audio Modeling Brass 2. Infinite Brass 3.Cinematic Studio Brass 4. Orchestral Tools Berlin Brass I LOVE Infinite Brass and use it for all of my orchestral stuff. I'll have to post a video soon of a demo

[@filipjonathan]

I don't know how many times I've watched this video. Haven't bought them yet but I'm very close :) Keep up the great work!!

[@rjkral]

Fantastic walkthrough of what sounds to be a superb library. I think I’m gonna get get me a copy of this! Thanks for this detailed review! 👍👍

[@darrenhirst9900]

Your tutorials are a cold beer on a hot day. Thank you.

[@gravics]

That little piece at the end was very nice. Impressive brass library.

[@guidryjoseph44]

You my friend should have way more subscribers!! You are the real deal!!

[@ChristopherSiu]

Great review Cory :)

[@Halfstar3]

I think this may be the best sounding brass library I've heard. I was going to go the 8dio route, but I really feel these sounds. And the notes all flow so naturally 😎🎶

[@roninmbattousai]

I only ended up adding the 8dio stuff to my library because of their recent sale on their items which you could also apply their discount bundle code to it (got both solo and ensemble + francesca/Cait/polyphon/intimate studio strings) for less than the bundle price of just the solo and ensemble brass (roughly how much i think it should be priced at normally). But yeah, this library is just such a joy to actually play. Nothing against 8dio, but the methodology of the layout of articulations are just more fun to play on a track. 8dios Arc stuff though really makes some incredible moments with their poly legato, if CS adds poly legato at some point it would be unstoppable for a brass library.

[@mattragan1142]

Watching that was 17 minutes very well spent - well done, thank you Cory.

[@Nicdehouwer]

Hey, that Tuba is playing that hook from Hook

[@jakobolofsson7780]

Awesome clarifying review!

[@GharunLacyMusic]

How am I just finding your channel? Really appreciate the care and detail of your work here. Great vid!

[@evenios2831]

man that sounds great might have to get it with the other strings

[@TomHawkComposer]

Love the sound and flexibility of this library!

[@dip_jones]

Many thanks Cory for such a brilliantly detailed review - best I've watched. Alex has done it again and so have you. Best reviewer on KZbin!! I'd love you to do a review of the Spitfire Studio Brass also when you have time.

[@CoryPelizzari]

I'm planning a video and a selection of custom multis for the Spitfire Studio Brass and Woodwinds very soon...

[@dip_jones]

Cory Pelizzari About the multis. I know you did the SA studio Strings multis in Kontakt 6. Would they work in the player version ? I assume they won’t in Kontakt 5

[@CoryPelizzari]

@@dip_jones They should work in Player 6 considering it's a Player library. May need someone to confirm that.

[@johnnydayzstudios2208]

Great review with plenty of examples and user demos. Love the style.

[@DaricShireMusic]

This library had me shook

[@adriandonal]

Lovely, modern library. I really dig it! :D

[@DadoSimicStudiostriver]

Quite solid sound. Love it.

[@VoidloniXaarii]

Thank you very much. All your reviews are so great

[@alexjevincent]

Thanks as always Cory, for a great review (and wonderful writing). This didn't make my jaw drop like Cinematic Studio Strings did but that may be because I have all of my brass needs covered with Berlin already (which is twice the price and a totally different concept). This is where I'd point anyone new for brass now, I think.

[@dirk.claassen]

Alex Vincent Hey Alex. I hope you can help me out. Would you recommend Berlin Brass over this or just go with Cinematic Studio Brass? I have EW Hollywood Brass diamond edition, and a few other ‘mixed’ libraries containing brass (a.g Spitfire Albion One, 8Dio Majestica etc.) But I am really in need of a new dedicated brass library. I can’t stand the Play engine. I am not interested in in other Spitfire brass (too roomy and not enough bite but it is very complete and has a lot of instruments and articualtions). I am also uncertain about 8Dio’s Century Brass (I like the sound and emotional quality, their bundle offers enough instruments and articulations, but with past experience from their string libraries and woodwinds, they take a lot of work to do what you want them to). I know Cinebrass gets a lot of praise, but it isn’t exactly a “new” library. I am also not looking for sound design stuff like Heavy Forzo. Just a good brass library that sounds real, is versatile and can be either classical or somewhat “epic”. My best options so far seems to be Cinematic Studio Brass (it sounds great, is affordable, not too heavy on resources and seems easy to use, but the downside for me is the number of articulations as well as the limited number of instruments). The other best option seems to be Orchestral Tools Berlin Brass... total opposite of CSB... but such a beautiful sound, I would say better than what I have heard here, but demos can be deceiving. But they have a whole lot more instruments recorded (with the expansions and mutes), It is what I want. I want to write out all the parts. Not just a quick mockup with something like Adventure Brass or even OT Metropolis series with sections...but Berlin Brass just seems really big... really really big in terms of everything... cpu resources, price tag, articulations and options etc. Is all of it worth it to get the best sound? Would I actually be able to make use of Berlin without the need to have like 10 slave machines just for the brass? Orchestral Tools are also working with Junkie XL on a new brass library... I am sure it will be great, but I have no idea how long that will be before release... What would you recommend I do? Sorry for the long question...

[@alexjevincent]

@@dirk.claassen I think they both sound great. Berlin Brass is substantially more expensive. Note that I waited for a sale on it. However, if your budget allows for both, it will depend on your workflow. Berlin Brass gives you each instrument separately which is much more effective for writing per section, rather than just using a solo trumpet multiple times. The depth of articulations is also slightly higher, and this is replicated in the mutes (which are fantastic) if you want that expansion. Cinematic Studio Brass seems to have a more consistent implementation and sampling. The instruments' interface and workflow is easier to understand and control. The dynamic range appears larger as well and you get a mix microphone for low RAM footprint, but some of the library is made up of ensemble instruments, which might be right for you. I think Berlin Brass leans more towards traditional orchestra, whereas Cinematic Studio Brass is more of a general workhorse (like the strings). All conjecture. Take a listen to the demos of both!

[@mmaybrown]

@@dirk.claassen How do you like the Berlin brass library so far?

[@alainthiry3965]

thank you

Thanks for this video :))

[@MichaelPicherMusic]

Oh boy...you're making it so hard not to throw down the money for this library, but I have to wait until the eventual success (or failure...) of my own brass library attempt. Who am I kidding, I might as well start budgeting the money now!

[@Osoch]

Hey i know you! xd I did throw money for this library and dont regret it

[@SlowDescentToWild]

Sounds lovely. Have you had a chance to compare it to Spitfire Studio Brass?

[@CoryPelizzari]

Will be doing that soon.

[@funkytivn1433]

Marcato?

[@StopmotionStudios13]

Wow this sounds amazing!!

[@richochet]

Great video. How do you access/enable fff in this library?

[@septemberwalk]

i always thought spitfire made the best stuff but now in starting to regret my investments

[@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207]

how did you EQ the sound at 10:30?

[@CoryPelizzari]

There's no EQ in the video, that's just the sound of the muted brass.

[@seanjackson5527]

Cory, outside of AV and VSL, who would you say has the most fast-friendly legato? And don't worry... every new Tuba I get, that Hook solo is the first thing I play. Why would I even bother testing it with anything else?

[@massimobonsi5510]

Hi Cory and thank u as usual for your really solid review! One question: that system with the Marcato articulation can be considered like the adventure patch in adventure brass? Thank u! Max

[@CoryPelizzari]

Pretty much yeah.

[@stradfenrir]

I was at a loss whether to use ChrisHein Orchestral Brass EX or Cinematic Studio Brass. Eventually I chose ChrisHein, but next time I want to choose Cinematic Studio.

[@CoryPelizzari]

Yeah Chris Hein is a lot drier and requires more patience and mixing to get the sort of sound CSB offers.

[@jaketanner109]

Cory, have you got Century brass? Was wondering if CSB solo or ensemble would blend better with Century solo/ensemble than SStB would with Century. Thanks...looking to possibly combine the solos and ensembles from one library with the solo/ensembles of the other...

[@CoryPelizzari]

I don't think 8Dio's libraries will ever be a possibility on this channel to be honest... The bad blood runs deep.

[@jaketanner109]

@@CoryPelizzari Damn sorry...So then let's take 8dio out of the equation. I know you favor CSB...but is SStB really unusable? Can CSB be made to sound a bit non-cinematic? Don't always need huge sounding brass. Thank you.

[@CoryPelizzari]

@@jaketanner109 SStB is usable, but very limited when it comes to legato and overall discipline. When it comes to CSB that fatter studio sound can be mitigated by only using the far mics with the reverb set to about 70%, which gives it a concert hall sound. If you want it to sound thinner, just chuck an equaliser in your fx chain (any will do) and take a slight wide dip out of the 500k range. You'd be surprised how much money you can save on library collecting by using EQ to shape the library you already have. Spitfire libraries are recorded to tape, which is why they sound darker, so you can grab an affordable tape emulator and chuck that in your fx chain as well to get a softer, more traditional sound. Audiothing has Reels and Vinyl Strip which are great affordable plugins.

[@jaketanner109]

@@CoryPelizzari thank you for the replies and suggestions :) Much appreciated.

[@beatrispits]

Hook!

[@rasputin1917]

The chordal sustains/legatos with swells etc sound very realistic, but the staccatos/staccatissimos/repetitions suck a bit: Not enough bite or punch to them. I want to hear that powerfull "spitting" attack from the players but its not coming out. A touch lifeless.

[@AlonsoJoaquinComposer]

It certainly has the dynamics and the size is good, but the recordings are pretty sus af and the room is not helping so that's probably what you are hearing

[@cyrilcalmes4208]

bad thing with Cinematic Studio Serie is that you can't simply re-download your samples if needed (ex. HDD crash). And, as can be seen on their website : "In case of an emergency, we will re-activate your links for a fee of $7.50 to cover bandwidth and admin costs."... too bad !!!! Not this kind of problem eslewhere... :(

[@OGrauMusic]

Very processed sound, it's not natural...