Lidl EV Charging: What Went Terribly Wrong?

[@jamesfisher1827]

I used a charger at Lidl in Belgium and the difference was it was completely free to use, no details needed, just plug in and you got free charge. Looked surprisingly like the one in this footage, and you could run one AC 22kw charge and one fast charge at the same time.

[@Harrythehun]

Lidl did they know about car charging.

[@theyjustwantyourmoney4539]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@chrislives40]

The chargers at my local Lidl worked fine when they were available through the pod point app. Now that they've moved over to the Lidl plus app, they suddenly don't work

[@Teslatalesuk]

I’ve tried to charge at three Lidl chargers locally…. Everyone has failed. Another good video Dave

[@wayne2socialmedia]

gosh your lucky all your lidls have chargers, we have 3 lidls but only one has a charger.

[@David-bl1bt]

I consider absurdly stupid to install chargers at a shopping centre. the majority of the time they are ICE'd....so....useless.

[@Teslatalesuk]

@@wayne2socialmedia Two have only recently been installed after three years of being told it was going to happen.

[@computerbob06]

The 2 I've tried before have worked perfectly fine! An experience of 2 halves I guess?

[@sargfowler9603]

To be fair, that affects most chargers!

[@barrymurton8988]

Most Lidl car park are limited to 90 minutes, exceed that and you get PCN!

[@David-bl1bt]

I will not patronise any shop who impose tine restrictions. if they want my business it will be on my terms.

[@IMBlakeley]

@@David-bl1bt Sadly the ones that don't are in a minority and I understand why when people park up and leave their motor all day

[@michaelgoode9555]

Data hoovering is a despicable practice that has dogged retail for 30 years in the UK. It's really intrusive and very sinister. We need our politicians to ban all these card, app and membership scams.

[@computerbob06]

And yet that's all Google and Apple do, but that's fine isn't it eh!?

[@gssf.gr29]

@@computerbob06 No it's not fine but we're more or less stuck with it if we want the functionality and convenience. Just use email accounts, names, dates etc. that you don't use anywhere else, it's not that difficult.

[@Colin-px6il]

No, they only want your date of birth, access to your contacts, all your photos and videos and maybe your camera and microphone BECAUSE they value your privacy……… well, that’s what they tell you.

[@DanBurgaud]

6:35 "...I can fill mine in 30 seconds..." THIS is so true. Once I get back home, I plug it in and that's it! I dont have to wait in line in the gas station too. And more importantly, I dont have to de-tour to find a gas station; I recharge at home!

[@stephenparker5272]

So what happens on a road trip?

[@sedumjp]

@@stephenparker5272 We could tell you, but you're too stupid to understand.

[@DanBurgaud]

@@stephenparker5272 On long road trips of >250km (once a year), we stop at a charging station, go for a bite and pee. ICE cars do that too. There is NO difference.

[@chrishar110]

@@stephenparker5272 4000 miles to Greece and back, every time we stopped the car was over 20% and charged at least to 80% because my wife's and my dog's range are smaller than the battery's range. Every 2-3 hours we had to stop for a pee break, a bite or a coffee. Even at the hotel I stopped for the night we had free slow, 3.5 Kw charging. The problem was that I didn't have the nanny's cable but the hotel had one that another driver forgot the last night and I used it.

[@ianrichards4907]

@@DanBurgaud your deluded

[@davidthornton3346]

5:57 Kilowatt Hours my man. When you're quoting figures on charging speeds and energy added, can you please make sure you're getting the units right. It makes it horrendously confusing when they're wrong

[@tonygarlingewarren7456]

One point twenty one giga watts... How am I going to generate that kind of power?

[@computerprogramme]

Lidl are dreadful, as soon as they introduced the plus card nonsense, we abandoned them and went to Aldi instead. We have tried Lidl charge points in the past, but they are out of order more often than not. The very thing that made them attractive as a supermarket was their everyday good prices. They seem to have abandoned that, to follow the big players, in hiking prices and having fake promotions that require membership of their dumb club.

[@David-bl1bt]

yes, "club prices" seem to be coming prevalent these days. WAIT....isn't that discriminatory 🤔 non club members shopping bills matters😂 " it's cos Izzz not a club member"

[@PJWey]

The exact reason I shop at Lidl, isn’t choice and diversity of opinion nice 😊

[@steamhammer2k]

All this messing about with apps does my head in.

[@Tom-dt4ic]

I very much enjoy your channel. But I have one question: what exactly is your inside leg messurment?

[@bikes_camera_more]

possibly about 31" 😂

[@robo19681963]

More like 29" by my reckoning

[@David-bl1bt]

...it depends!

[@Tom-dt4ic]

@@David-bl1bt Now that's how I can extend my need for bathroom breaks while driving.

[@Ribeirasacra]

Who spends an hour or more in a lidl? they are hardly the biggest shops in terms of size and product range.

[@stnicolastaplow4096]

Have you been a Lidl queue?!

[@bikeman123]

62p per kwh. Doesnt that work out about 15p per mile ie around the price eof an average ice car? How can that be ok?

[@RichardBrooklyn]

It’s not. That’s why people buy Teslas. It’s also why people charge at home for 2 pence per mile. I rarely public charge at all. Maybe 4 times a year and I do about 16k miles a year.

[@xperyskop2475]

If you can't charge at home or work on cheap ( standard rate) Electric cars probably won't save you much

[@hishamg]

I do about 80% of my charging at home. When I’m travelling, e.g. from the Northwest to to Southeast I use ultra rapid motorway chargers, usually Gridserve because they are fairly common on the M6 and M1. Yesterday I used the 150kw chargers at Sainsbury’s in Hemel Hempstead. Public rapid chargers are pricey, but the cheaper charging at home (in my case 9p a KWh between midnight and 5 am) makes up for it.

[@taefravis]

As with most things it depends on many factors such as the efficiency of the iCE car, the range and efficiency of the EV etc. As it stands yes this is near enough what it costs to drive an ICE per mile however not all public chargers cost the same. Tesla charges about 35p per kWh which is reasonable in my view. Those who can charge at home can get quite a saving as my brother has an EV and he charges at home which costs him about £5 to drive about 200 miles in 2 days to and from work compared to over £100 in petrol costs. Those who can not change at home may not save as much but I predict that one day soon there will be so many chargers and so much energy that costs will be much cheaper.

[@bilko1325]

​@xperyskop2475 we've just bought an ev, we can't charge at home and you're right the fuel doesn't save much but between the insurance, service plan, tax and the small savings on fuel, we are saving an average of £100 a month so it's still worth looking at.

[@christopherpayne-j2v]

I tried to use the Lidl charger in droitwich spar 6 weeks ago just after it was changed over from pod point.unable to use it by app or charge map card/electroverse card.still unable to use unit

[@DB25k]

Do I get the sense dave slightly upset..😅

[@wayne2socialmedia]

the reason theres no contactless is because they are rebranded pod point chargers, the law is only currently for new installs and replacement chargers regardless of networks. Whilst i dont like giving out details its common place, I had the same problem recently when I took out a tesla member, they even wanted my back details, at least lidls dont want that.

[@davidkramrisch]

No they are different chargers and I have the spec for them from Project EV - AC 22S 60kw and you can choose whether to have 2ccs or 1 ccs and 1 chademo. Prices are about £20K + Vat + delivery. Available from Lamplec electrical suppliers and other similar trade suppliers. However I now stand corrected thanks to EV man as they are ABB Terra T54 units which I wonder if the Chinese copied….

[@wayne2socialmedia]

@@davidkramrisch awww ok thats intresting, i was going by my local, because i was charging when the guy come to rebrand it but intrestingly I used the pod point app not the lidls app.

[@davidkramrisch]

@@wayne2socialmedia Hi. I wonder if some are just getting rebranded and some are having new units.? Our local one was definitely a new unit.

[@andrewkirk3159]

@@davidkramrischThe one at our local is definitely just the old Pod Point operated one with new sticker branding on it. They are ABB Terras. Lidl have always owned the units.

[@EVMan298]

@@davidkramrischThey’re definitely not Project EV Chinese chargers. They’re ABB T54s.

[@bellshooter]

Three points: Lidl chargers are all ex Podpoint which were never fitted with contactless interface. This is not a new device. I have used these chargers without issues both on Podpoint and on Lidl app for 4 years. These are also available on the Octopus Electroverse RFID card. Don't paint all Lidl charging with a black mark for a single failure. That's just dumb, like anti EV mainstream media!

[@dgilbert222]

Do these Lidl chargers have RFID readers, I couldn't see one to use the Electroverse card (which would cost a higher 74p per kW)?

[@Gazer75]

This unit is the classic ABB 50kW charger that has existed for almost a decade at this point. Don't think these old ones even support a card terminal to support contactless payment.

[@damianbond679]

They can be retrofitted quite easily for card readers. My local Lidl in Stroud recently had a card reader installed. Like a week ago or so. Very annoying they hold £40 for a few days

[@Alantj22]

My 2016 Tesla Models S can fast charge at 22KW. It was an option at the time. I have never actually used it (as I have never used a public charger, just home and Tesla supercharging) so a waste of money but it seemed like a good idea at the time.

[@jamesfahy2935]

It only makes sense to charge while you're shopping if you don't have a home charger. It's too expensive compared to home.

[@MarkBlinston]

Lidl at Westbrook chargers don’t work. Vend electric app cannot find them when you scan them

[@thomaswoodcock9189]

and if you arent going shopping?

[@stekeeley1936]

My car accepts 22kw...would it be cheaper but longer to use the AC?

[@Robotadept]

The charger at our local Lidl had the cable stolen several times when it was a pod point now they have put one of those in and it’s had the cable stolen already

[@paulscott1759]

Have pod point stopped providing chargers at Lidl now or does it depend where you are ,i use the lidl pod point at Padiham works ok

[@rickyjulian496]

I set up with lidl charging in Llandudno. Was a faff but got there in the end.

[@awaissikandar2754]

Thanks for the information, it's same in east london Lidl the charging point not working at all and no information available why they are not working. Not expected from Lidl.

[@Chris-mh3vf]

Unfortunately Lidl are the highest power chargers within 25 miles in whitby (50)kw

[@davek5839]

I went to Lidl yesterday, didn't bother when I saw I needed the app. Went to Sainsbury's instead, nice and easy to use, plug in and tap the debit card, they had ultra rapid chargers as well.

[@brianbarcroft9167]

My Mégane does a 22k fast charge which is great if I'm not in a rush, lunch for example, leaving the supercharger free for those that might need it.

[@markhamilton7289]

ditto ex30

[@carlarrowsmith]

The French manufacturers have the right idea with 22kW, it's great to see pretty much every public charger in France does this rate too.

[@brianbarcroft9167]

@@carlarrowsmith Yeah, Can't understand why other manufacturers don't do it. Renault's partner Nissan used to apparently but they have stopped whilst Renault have taken it up. It can make such a difference. Whilst on holiday ate at a restaurant in Cassis. They had two 22kw chargers on the carpark which meant that it was great for me but not so great for other EVs charging at 7kw or whatever.

[@markhamilton7289]

@@carlarrowsmith sensible approach and makes use of the 3phase 240v supply

[@YorkshireHillbilly]

3 years ago my local Lidl offered free charging for 60 minutes. Yup, you could disconnect and reconnect too. Unfortunately, 2 years ago Lidl scrapped all free charging.

[@stani.k]

I charged at Lidl about a month ago through the Lidl plus app and it was all good, used the CCS charger. And also i share the experience of the lady in the audi, when we got our Tesla delivered by a third party dealership they didn't tell us anything we figured everything out by ourselves

[@theyjustwantyourmoney4539]

Not only their EV charger but also their self service checkout is always failing

[@Steve-v5n5v]

There whole operation is failing, I work for them everything is done on the cheap cheap cheap

[@davidmack610]

Just an observation, I believe that you can use an Electroverse card at these chargers. Fully agree with the point of the video though, these charging apps are still annoying, very much like when Tesco sell groceries at inflated prices unless you have a club card...

[@David-bl1bt]

discriminatory practice....report them.

[@djhvideo]

Exactly. I never give my true DOB when signing up for pub deals etc. (Obviously some sites need true DOB )

[@michaelmartin9022]

I always used to give a fake one to porn websites when I was 16

[@WheelieTheCapper]

And you have that choice... Typically they use date of birth to age profile their customers but also, as a Brucie Bonus, you get a free gift on your birthday

[@prodavnicayugo]

There are Loads of 22 and even 43 kw types 2 plugs in France, I suspect a French plot from the early days to get people there to buy the Renault Zoe, many of which had a 43kw AC capacity!

[@Koulis_]

I had a look at one of these at my local Lidl but can't understand why price isn't displayed as this is the first thing I look at. Why can't this be made more transparent with EV chargers?

[@tonydean7543]

Nobody there right now, or queuing up to get in. My local car wash has paid to get two charge by installed and I have never seen anyone using them.

[@PJWey]

Yay I got a Lidl ad 🎉

[@andrewjoy5846]

I would love to go back to an EV but I have had to move into a flat and since all the savings are biased towards someone that has home charging I have gone back to an ICE car. Once the technology allows me to match a public charger to my apartment electricity tariff I am struggling to see the economic benefits?

[@oliver90owner]

Maybe little or no economic benefits re energy costs - and we wait to see what road tax is going to be. The other benefits are : not burning fossils (which are a limited commodity); reduced maintenance costs; little noise; no tail pipe pollutants (toxic for pedestrians and polluting re greenhouse gases); no smelly fuel pump nozzles; ease of driving. And a few others, like tax incentives for those with work connected purchases.

[@ianmac51]

That is my experience 1 charger and may or may not work and if it does work its in use

[@stevenbarrett7648]

We use Aldi, only low power but free at most places, just plug in and get on with your shopping

[@davemedcroft]

I’m not sure if Dave said his location. It could be the same situation as in Gloucester where the charger has been updated (Was a pod-point in Gloucester). The chargers changed weeks ago but are still not working. A little sign to stop people parking up and trying would be helpful.

[@AndyJHiscock]

Will be interested to hear the feedback from Lidl - especially why contactless option is not available. As a lot of the chargers seem to have been purchased off Podpoint and rebranded I suspect contactless payment is coming down the line.

[@tonymarsh9411]

I have the same issue with our local Shaftsbury one when it works. It's great but it's no good if its out of order.

[@aron68on_etoro95]

Have you tried with different app as well? Was it a failure of the application or the station?

[@R2D888]

These chargers were originally Pod Point chargers and were activated via the Pod point app. At one point, briefly around or just before covid, they were free until EV uptake increased slightly, and then they started charging. It seems Lidl have bought them outright or something and have tried to integrate it into their own app.

[@markbennett6658]

If there’s a customer contact phone number on the charger why not call them whilst you were trying to help ‘Sue’. They might be able to get remote access and get it back online in real time?

[@peterholden8476]

Isn't the big grey box with the white symbol on (that is between the connectors and the screen) the contactless point? It certainly looks like it's the right symbol for that?

[@robinallen7356]

It will be for RFID card, but not for bank credit/debit card.

[@martinwray7001]

You can't rely on these one post rapid chargers, I'd aim for sites with at least 4. Lidl needs to think about providing more bays/posts

[@JanetCLARK-h9w]

Had difficulty charging via the lidl app at Redditch last week, as it wouldn't accept my postcode. Tried it with and without a space, still no joy. Phoned the number on the charger and was told to scan the QR code, which did work. There was a country park with cafe close by which was handy, as didn't need any shopping. I'm sure we've used a much better charger at a Lidl in West Yorkshire (Wakefield area I think) which was tap and go, much easier!

[@stevenbarrett7648]

Also a pre authorisation charge of £40 too !

[@bikeman123]

How is that a problem? the payment isn't actually taken.

[@stephenlee5929]

It the same as many unmanned petrol/deiseal pumps, so not sure what the problem is.

[@steve6375]

Look behind you! Did you pull down that flapping sheet which seems to have QR code on it and maybe instructions?

[@Actually-y7j]

How the EVs getting on in Florida Hurricanes....???

[@xperyskop2475]

Swimmingly good .

[@CW-om2qq]

Depends whether they're in salt water or not. Difficult to recharge when no power!

[@djtaylorutube]

​@@CW-om2qqdifficult to pump fuel when no power too.

[@djtaylorutube]

Apparently, rather well! I've been watching various reports on this. One guy with a diesel truck said they can't get fuel, the pumps were being wrapped in cling film, 24 hours before the storm. Then there's the issue of queues and re-supply. Without power, those pumps aren't working either. I've seen a report of a guy driving people around because his solar charged the car, similarly, Tesla drove in mobile Superchargers. Those with power could home charge and found that Superchargers were generally working and available. It's ridiculous to assume that a car can't be used the moment power is removed, there are multiple ways of generating electricity but usually methods of supplying petrol and diesel are limited.

[@ElectricMikeEV]

Very well apparently some lucky folks can power there houses from them

[@jaywalker1233]

so, at 6:20 Dave is attacking all the “negative people” for saying how difficult and time consuming it is to recharge EVs compared to filling up with petrol, then from 10:00 onwards he’s complaining + waving his arms about what a complete palaver it is +being forced to enter all your personal details only to find that the charging station won’t charge your car!!🤣

[@gerhardk98]

Charging rate is often limited by the car more than the charging dispenser. Isn’t RFID contactless payment, at least it is for my Apple-pay and credit cards in Canada.

[@johnayates2139]

I’m not saying Malian Bridge Sheffield in rough area in South Yorkshire, but the Lidl store has a rapid charger for about seven moths, during that time the charging cable had been cut & stolen. I’m not sure how many times the cables have been replaced . Over seven months, every time I’ve driven passed the cables have been missing . Dave keep up the good work & one day you will convince ice drive to go electric.

[@andycotton162]

I used to live at Walkley, just up the hill and Malin Bridge never was a rough area, so it surprises me!

[@steve-zschannel2729]

I live in Rotherham and there is one Lidl branch with EV charging or should I say "had" EV charging, in just over 2 years cables have been cut 4 or 5 times, after the last time they gave up replacing them, their one was a Podpoint charger. Instavolt ones locally suffered the same fate for quite a while but they've now installed security cameras and the cables have survived so far 🤞🤞

[@JamesHodgson-s1h]

Stick to the petrol.. McMaster hates his EV

[@FéargalO]

To be fair that guy is a total idiot.

[@briankavanagh7191]

why has he still got it then?

[@GraemeHart8888]

​@@briankavanagh7191it gives him something to complain about

[@davidquinn5906]

@@briankavanagh7191he did a video on it. IIRC he’s in about twenty grand negative equity on it.

[@gordonbrown7806]

Iagree with you Lidl charging is a disaster, I was visiting north wales about four years ago tried to charge my first MG ZS in went to Lidl llandudno. The charger did not work and customer services were unhelpful when I got home to Essex I received a parking ticket for £70 which later doubled to!£140 the Lidl car park was completely empty. It was in the day when MG ZS only had a-range of 150 miles so long trips were a challenge anyway. I am know on my third electric car an MG trophy long range which gets 320 miles. Because of my experience at Lidl 4 years ago I have never shopped at Lidl again even though it is my closest supermarket. I did finally get the parking fine cancelled after 6 months and many emails to Lidl and MPs and even the then transport secretary that did not have an electric car themselves so did not understand my frustrations. Luckily I persisted with electric and a very happy with my MG4 I watch your channel all the time and think it is great. Thank you.

[@DJBaldPaul]

Oh my goodness, I had exactly the same experience at a Geniepoint charger at Morrisons on Saturday, there was a couple there with their new EV trying to get a charge so they could get home and the lady was visibly frustrated and angry, I was chatting to them for about 10 minutes and their EV ownership and charging experience had been terrible. I will try and make a video about it as it's too much for me to type (I did post it on Facebook in the EV Drivers UK group though if you want a read).

[@finchyfun1]

The one in Herne Bay only has 1 chargers

[@davescrivener8510]

Tbf, the app is probably asking for your DoB for advertising. If you're under 18, they might not advertice alcohol etc

[@garyhawkins-pianoteacherpi6490]

35 miles for an hour charge ? Jeez Firstly I have NEVER spent an hour shopping, 10-15 minutes average. Secondly, even if I queued at the petrol station for 10 minutes. ( very very rare I ever need to queue though ) I can fill up for about a minute and get 400 miles ) This system is soooo not for me. But if you’ve got hours spare to charge for 35 miles at a time - go for it.

[@rcflyer158]

Exactly,suppose you need a full charge and don't need to go shopping?

[@garyhawkins-pianoteacherpi6490]

@@rcflyer158 don’t get me wrong, if you’re 85 years old, and do 5 miles a week then these little milk float / eco boxes are perfect. To the average person, or business you’re adding ridiculous amount of hours to your week. I couldn’t cope

[@rcflyer158]

I spend no more than 20 minutes shopping, so about 12 miles of charge?I can put 450 actual miles of petrol in my tank in a few minutes.

[@jaywalker1233]

EVs only work well for retired people with a garage who can charge overnight +never travel long distance. They are totally unfit for business users. But the govt don’t see this because they hate everyone and only care about forcing their “policies” on all of us

[@rabidpb]

I walked away from the Lidl charger when it wanted me to give it all my details for a store account just to use it. It was supposed to work through the Octopus app but the unit never responded to the charge request. Terrible experience, and unnecessarily so.

[@melcragg7814]

Older teslas can go up to 18kw on ac. My 2021 model x does. The very first model s with a dual charger on board could reach 22kw

[@JuicyJohnEV]

Doing gods work for us

[@Jaw0lf]

I do agree that non functioning chargers are a very bad advert for EV's and there should be a better way that they are managed. Maybe they need to self report that they are okay and if not it flgs up for a reboot or visit.

[@paulbuckingham15]

They need to be fined a per day charge by a regulator for each day they are not working.

[@CW-om2qq]

I suspect the monitoring isn't good enough.

[@StephenButlerOne]

I'm just about to get my first EV, I should receive my Born just before Xmas 🤞 From everything I've seen, I think when Im going on a longer trip. I'll be aiming for tesla superchargers where at all possible. I don't think I CBA with having 20 apps and 10 charge cards in my glove box, and paying a good 30% for that inconvenience. Luckily if my home charge ever comes up short, I have a supercharger 10miles from me, right near my daughter's house in Flint.

[@paulbuckingham15]

Get the Octopus Energy chargepoint app and RFID card though. It works across a range of charge point operators. You don't have to be an Octopus energy customer to use it either, but if you are the charge cost is added to your electricity bill. Otherwise you pre set up a payment method with a credit or debit card. Not for use with Tesla chargepoints though, which have their own app or contactless.

[@StephenButlerOne]

@@paulbuckingham15 thank you for that information. I'll certainly look into that. I'm also a octopus customer, so that would be nice to not have to think about payments till the end of the month. I still think I'd use that as a back up method, as from all I read, the Tesla superchargers work more often than not and at full speeds. Iirc the born is 110kw, I don't want to be driving from one to another just to find they are offline or trickle charging. I want a high degree of certainty, it will just work. But I think I'll deffo look into this, when I look into the EV tariffs .though I'm not yet sold on if the EV traffic, only being 4h, then a higher than standard 20h tarrif will work out cheaper than the standard tarrif I'm currently on using I think is sub 40p per kWh. I've not checked in ages. But I'm sure it's 36p. When i first got with them about 8-10 years ago I'm sure it was 21p. I get my gas and electric via them, Monzo banking put me onto them, and I've always paid £79pm and I'm in lads of credit. Last I looked was about three years ago, in COVID I think, and I was about 2k in credit. It may be less now as prices have gone up, but I'm assuming I'm still in credit given they have never upped my £79pm direct debit. I may be in loads of credit and get a ton of free miles out of it. Now that may pull me away from the superchargers. But I'm probably going to be filling up outside the house once a month on average. So I can't see it really being a big deal. But again thank you. I class myself as tech savvy, a bit of a nerd.,I'm the family member and friend that people used to bring their pcs and laptops to sort out, and the one the older family members come to when they need a new phone (usually Moto E is always the answer), but the swap to EV, or my journey so far, is a bit overwhelming. I like the idea of a one card for most chrarge points. I think ZapMap app covers a multitude of providers also, and it's probably my favourite out of all the EV charger apps I've played with. So I think with the Tesla app (which is terrible) for the SCs, ZapMap and an octopus card, I think that should cover almost any UK adventure/ emergency.

[@StephenButlerOne]

@@paulbuckingham15 I just looked for the app and already had it installed, I don't think I'd opened it yet. Super easy to sign up for the card, and it's on its way. I did select to pay by card rather than bill. That's something I'll look at once I've got a charger installed etc.. I do like the fact than my incoming car can utilise the plug and auto play scheme, so in theory I shouldn't ever need to use the card or tap my phone. That is a really nice feature. Another thing I'll now need to watch some reviews on how it's working ATM. Cheers.

[@ralpharmsby8040]

Used the Flint one last time we were there with our eNiro. Nice place to eat too.

[@michaelbenson2954]

Why have Lidl switched from Pod Point ? Pod Point always worked and very easy to use. Always charged at Lidl Bridlington new installation not working. Also Pod Point we’re at a public car park Bridlington these have been replaced by Mer. Are pod point pulling out of public charging

[@stephenlee5929]

They weren't able to get your DOB from those.

[@philipgower2000]

What about the indicators then dave?

[@jakeroadtonowhere4070]

Genie point near me in Morrisons hasn’t worked for over six months

[@Prosaic-m5n]

Why is there a difference in price? A charge is a charge the only difference is time..

[@dgilbert222]

You should try visiting / living in Bridlington. There is only 1 x 50kW charger at Lidl (often "offline") or 1 x 60kW GP at Morrisons, THATS IT apart from a dozen or so 7-22kw charge points. How do they expect EV owners to visit the seaside for the day with so few options to charge up. Talk about charger and range anxiety! You have to travel 1hr to Hull / York, or 45 minutes to Scarborough for rapids!. Oh yes, nearly forgot, there are two rapids 50 mins away at MacDonalds Shiptonthorpe, lovely! Please convince me why owning an EV can work in a large and busy area like this, especially with 1000's of daily summer visitors. You should do a video maybe on not spot areas for charge points and how app only charge points can work with poor mobile signals! Brid has some of those too!

[@rickyjulian496]

The best way to pay would be the same as when you go to Asda petrol station at 1am, you put your card in and put that pin in. Good old chip n pin. Cant go wrong.. Best for the older generation.

[@pauleaves469]

No use to me. Use my local Lidl quite regularly but my usual visit time is less than ten minutes. 😮

[@teetubbie7697]

As an EV driver, I'm finding your commentary more and more disingenuous, of course it takes a couple of seconds to plug that's not representative of the whole charging experience. I charge a lot due to work and continually see drivers sitting in their cars whilst charging as I do. Some drivers are charging enroute and IMHO EV drivers accept this, but to suggest people have other things to tootle off and do whilst their cars are charging is infuriating to hear, especially your analogy about shopping and filling your car in less than 30 seconds.

[@Tore_Lund]

I had enough of the Lidl charge app and found the Austrian charging company managing their chargers and billing and ordered a charging FOB card from them. Guess what, the FOB worked, however it considered me an Austrian on holiday and made of money, so found it perfectly alright to charge EUR 1.5 per kWh! I cut up the card when I got home. So I'm toiling with the app still. -and true, Lidl chargers are never occupied.

[@floxy20]

When carmakers stop selling cars outright and instead offer them as subscriptions they will tout it as a FEATURE. And some people (I wonder who) will salivate over this dystopian prospect. Skip a payment and the car will drive itself to the dealer and notify your bank at the same time. "Driver Assist" was just the begining.

[@psm2day]

We have 4 lidls near us and none have ever had EV chargers.

[@dazaaw]

Is that the Lidl in Wigan.?

[@EverydayLife621]

The usual charging / parking con, no doubt you will end up with DCBL, when all your troubles will start. I've been to court twice (and won!!!) via these idiots.

[@jcfallows]

The one at Lidle brighouse w yorks, used to work but i tried to get it to work under the new Lidle pump and it's total crap it pretends to work then fails! I went up the road to the shell garage that pump was just dead. I tried the evengi now called Genie point that pretended to work while it locked £30 on my bank account for 10 days! The two genie pumps in Elland do the same! But while still in Brighouse I called at the Tesco pump only 7kw one was charging a car but the other didn't work and just waisted another 15 minutes of my life! Total crap!! How the hell are we going all electric in 2030????

[@wheelz9417]

I thought the government had passed a legislation. Which said all public charge points had to have contactless payment as well.

[@CW-om2qq]

Apparently you can pay by contactless, but it costs more. Contactless itself is a fraud problem. Prefer to have some means of authentication (virtual PIN keypad) if necessary.

[@wheelz9417]

@@CW-om2qq well then a card machine type thing that you put your pin number in. Just like you can in a shop. Probably solved lol.

[@Joinusinfrance]

Lidl chargers are horrible in France too.

[@slifox2752]

They want 40 quid upfront... so I'm out... as a occasional charger

[@tristramcharnley2581]

Our local Lidl car park is adjacent to an electricity substation. A perfect location for a bank of high power chargers. And what have we got? Yes, you've guessed it. One of these.

[@darrendaniels5129]

The Megan does do 22kw

[@paulgreen7906]

Apparently EVs are the future....if that is the future of charging infrastructure in the UK ooops. Anyone want to buy a chocolate teapot?

[@scottplaysgolf]

Can pay full price rapid charge 74p using Electroverse without anything else. Or use the Lidl plus and give up your data to get it for 62p - no different to anything else discounted in store. Accept it or lose out. Should still be cheaper though especially if probably shopping there too and they should build out more chargers for local people in excess parking bays that can’t charge at home for under 40p.

[@stephenmitchinson6682]

what a carry on. just buy a petrol or diesel car, or even hybrid, omg

[@PaulCunningham-sf5pu]

I have had 2 bad experience Nissan leaf tekna no guidance Peugeot E2008 no guidance. Bought both cars was brand new and I am very disappointed

[@SarahJonestoo]

Fabulous. Well done Dave. You helped Sue and also it's good to see how annoyed you are about the charger as I would be annoyed as well. You're right. . . it seems stupidly hard to use that charger!

[@jeremynorth5214]

Just a few thoughts... I've used our local Lidl charger (Brighton Street, Hull) since getting my Dolphin in July without a problem. Until recently the chargers at Lidl were operated by Pod Point through the Pod Point app which you had to top up first, then it worked through your balance. So add say £30 to the app first, plug in to charge and it would halt when you disconnected or when it had used up your balance. In this sense the new Lidl app charging method is far better (and more in line with the competition). The price has also dropped - it was 65p per kwh. I had no problems in charging, getting around 47-48kwh charging in the real world. Also, just wondering if your ficticious date of birth could be causing an issue when it trys to pre authorise your card? Either way, as someone else commented, you can now use the Electroverse card / app with the Lidl chargers, so problem solved!!! (This was never an option with Pod Point). All in all I'm very happy with the changes. I agree that in this day and age there should be more than one charger tho!!!

[@gssf.gr29]

😂 I cannot remember the last time I had a power cut, but for the record i have a UPS and a diesel generator should i ever need it, and yes, my truck can power my freezer and TV during a powet cut - if i ever have one. I can fill up in. 5 minutes, not hours, at a wide choice if places all within minutes of where I live, and i can keep going for almost double your 300 miles between 5 minute fill ups, not have to pay double the price like. EV drivers do if they have to charge away from home, and the cost of your EV far outweighs any potential savings on fuel. That's without the almost endless and still growing must of other issues associated with them so yes, I will and do enjoy my proper car very much indeed thank you.

[@siandsue1]

It's a different story in Europe, used them in France no trouble.

[@skaven6663]

I thought you said you just plug in and go shopping. Not at Lidl obviously.

[@flaw3dgenius222]

Lidl was extremely expensive last time i checked... 79p if i remember right. No thanks.

[@stephenwhite4293]

I have one experience of electric car and it is bad the car was a 2 year old trade in.When we arrived with his new diesel car he said he was sick of his electric car and couldn’t wait to get rid of it.When set off for home with it took charge when it hit 50 miles range charge I charged it next I needed charge went to service and it wouldn’t charge at any of the charges so had .to push on next stop I had 6 miles left and it wouldn’t charge and their was a tech there working on a charger and couldn’t get my car to charge on any station so had to be recovered.After it went to the dealership and they said it was ok I will never drive electric again.

[@terrymackenzie6784]

To little, but looks like a rebranded Pod Point charger same price to

[@umik8512]

I'm also new to public charging, had a home charger so much easier, but I now have to use public charging. what I've been experiencing is chargers not working, too many apps and anything under 50 KW a waste of time for me also why so expensive, I thought the government are trying to make us use ev cars. I'm going to have to go back to petrol so much easier. Shame as I love the electric car it's just the UK isn't ready for them.