I guess humble pie 🥧 is rather delicious 😂😂😂😂😂

Not going to happen Labour will fall, Tories are history. Reform will be elected. EV mandate repealed 2028/ 29 . You're worst nightmare will come true Dave 😭.

Yes because of net zero bloody madness, time to scrap it, and let people drive the cars they want , and stop stuffing EVs down our throats. You dream about EV's Dave , but 80% of us don't want them. Time to bin the EV mandate, and this bloody awful government that's trashing the economy. Not a cat in hell's chance of reaching the 28% this year unless they fudge it by allowing hybrids which for most it means they can still drive petrol, but have to carry a battery around for the ride just to keep the EV , green looneys like Ed Milliband happy.

If you're thinking of buying an EV just check these few points first. EV insurance greater than ICE like it or not there is an issue with 🔥, and if they get a small bump they are written off because nobody can guarantee the battery has not been damaged. EV maintenance, No local garages will service them as they don't have the technicians or the technology to work on them. You may not have to service them like an ICE , but they do go wrong, then it will be main dealer £££. The battery on an EV is almost like, well is a sealed unit one, just one failure of one of those hundreds of cells will mean the removal of the battery box at the main dealer running into thousands. Charging, if you can't charge at home forget it your going to be at the mercy of the charging companies, that will charge you variable amounts depending on what time of day it is . Petrol station display their cost by law , and don't vary their prices during the day. Do you think given the state of our energy market, mad net Zero that the price of electricity is going down anytime soon . Its only going one way if more people turn to EV's UP UP UP. Depreciation, Depreciation , Depreciation, like it or not EV's won't last as long as an ICE car because after ten years it won't pass to the budget end of the vehicle market ( where the smart people go) it will go to the crusher because like you're Apple i pad the maker will stop software support for the vehicle making it valueless..White goods like it or not. An ICE car after ten years can easily be kept going by a local mechanic using pattern parts for another 10 to 15 years, so their value will be maintained. ICE cars have continually improved its emissions, and an small engine ICE car is just as environmentally friendly as any EV when total emissions are added up. And finally Dave is a bit Biased 😂😂 😂 see Barrie Crampton , or Mac Master... Then make your mind up 😊

The relatively quiet electric motor will benefit smaller low spec cars most of all as their ice versions are frequently noisy to travel in and engine noise at high revs intrusive. Throw in the “free automatic transmission” you get with EV’s and for the average driver, they are an unbeatable second car,

ICE cars are going to be like gold dust in the future as they get nearer to the mandate. Their values are only going one way. 80% of people want nothing to do with EVs as they are totally impractical for many.

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Elephant in the room re EV,s Depreciation Depreciation Depreciation 😂😂😂😂

This is an absurd comparison....EVs are sold at a massive loss....price paroty is meaningless....every BEV sold out of china and the rest of the world (except Tesla) is sold at a loss. What on esrth do you think prove parrity tells you? The only indication on anything is that Eavs demand is so terrible...they have to sell at even bigger losses. If you think that sustainable ...you don't understand markets..

Whilst new EVs may be cheaper now, please don't forget all the thousands of immaculate, nearly new EVs. Why spend £20k to £25k when £10k to £15k will get you many EVs with low mileage and some even still have years of warranty left.

My wife fell in love with me when I told her I was so skint I could charge my car up for 66 pence.She did ask me why I was a virgin and clothed myself in Burtons reject clothing from 1980.

Dave ... I looked into the economics of chargers and ... what a surprise ... EVERYONE is currently gouging the market to high heaven (even Tesla!). I do not see how the price will fail to go DOWN over the next few years (but governments will need to make up lost tax revenue). Even stripped of taxes, here in Canada the "raw inputs" - i.e. a "liter-equivalent" of electricity vs a liter of petrol - the profit margin on electricity is ... ludicrously high?

Sadly not in Canada ...

I had a id4 for two years lost 18k Just leased a better id4 over three years will cost me 13k No brainer The only mistake was buying one

Remember this guy has not even persuaded his wife to buy an EV. She drives an ICE car. I wonder why? Perhaps she wants to kill him with the fumes. LOL .

the autocharge works brilliantly ,wish they were all like tesla and fastned 😊

no one could get me to trade my mid price ev for any ice vehicle . EV is far superior in driving fun, responsiveness, control, quiet etc.

When you have a problem selling something, the best way to entice customers is to lower the price....

In the Netherlands, The Mercedes dealers are selling the 4 meter long Dongfeng Box. 42kWh LFP battery, very efficient, more comfort, 360 degrees camera's, 12.8"screen + 5" screen and much more features than the Citroën ë-C3 Max, . . price €23,500 for the top spec. Best price/quality/range EV atm in Netherlands.

And MUTCH CHEAPER ROAD TAX ZERO COST or £20 per Year Also ROAD TAX IS Going up in APRIL 2025 FOR ALL ICE CARS assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6603f64b13397a0011e419be/v149-rates-of-vehicle-tax-for-cars-motorcycles-light-goods-vehicles-and-private-light-goods-vehicles.pdf VED or road tax bands are based on engine size or fuel and CO2 emissions, depending on when the vehicle was first registered. If the car was registered on or after 1 April 2017 it will fall into one of three VED bands: zero, standard or premium. Then for cars registered between 1 March 2001 and 31 March 2017 the amount of VED you pay will be split into CO2 bands. The lower the CO2 emissions, the lower the VED rate. Why are you paying £710 instead of £190? Your car is falling in the category of cars registered after March 2001 and before April 2017 - a 16-year period. So instead of paying a standard fee, your car's VED is based on emissions levels. There are 13 bands, A to M, with A being the cheapest and M the most expensive. TAX BANDS FOR CARS REGISTERED AFTER MARCH 2001 AND BEFORE APRIL 2017 VED band CO2 emissions Annual rate A Up to 100g/km £0 B 101-110g/km £20 C 111-120g/km £35 D 121-130g/km £160 E 131-140g/km £190 F 141-150g/km £210 G 151-165g/km £255 H 166-175g/km £305 I 176-185g/km £335 J 186-200g/km £385 K 201-225g/km £415 L 226-255g/km £710 M Over 255g/km £735 A car that falls into Band A, up to 100g/km of CO2, pays £0 annual VED, while a car that falls into Band M, over 255g/km, will pay £735. And unfortunately, because your car produces 226-255g/km of CO2 it falls into Band L, the second most expensive band, and therefore you're having to cough up £710. Your neighbour is only paying £190 because his car, even though it's the same model, is newer so falls within the cars registered after April 2017 section. That's when the system for car tax changed to the zero, standard and premium bands. For the first year these cars pay a 'showroom tax' based on emissions levels and then subsequent years they pay a standard rate of VED of £190. So, if it helps lessen the sting at some point your neighbour (if he bought his car new) would have paid £2,340 tax for his car's first year on the road. Will your car tax get more expensive? VED fees are adjusted each spring to reflect changes in inflation (Retail Price Index/RPI). This is standardly the case, and you could see your VED rates rise each year. However there are rises that don't directly change your car's VED rate but are worth bearing in mind incase you change to a newer model. All cars emitting between 1-50 g/km of CO2 - most plug-in hybrids fall into this category - will see the first year tax bill rise to £110, up from just £10. This is to incentivise EV uptake. New cars emitting between 51-75g/km of CO2 will increase from £30 to £135. All other rates will double next year. INCREASE IN VED FIRST-YEAR 'SHOWROOM TAX' RATES FOR NEW CARS FROM 1 APRIL 2025 CO2 (g/km) Petrol & diesel cars now Petrol & diesel cars from 1 April 2025 Alternative fuel (self-charging and plug-in hybrid) cars now Alternative fuel (self-charging and plug-in hybrid) cars from 1 April 2025 0 £0 £10 £0 £10 0-50 10 £110 £0 £110 51-75 £30 £130 £20 £130 76-90 £135 £270 £125 £250 91-100 £175 £350 £165 £330 101-110 £195 £390 £185 £370 111-130 £220 £440 £210 £420 131-150 £270 £540 £260 £520 151-170 £680 £1,360 £670 £1,340 171-190 £1,095 £2,190 £1,085 £2,170 191-255 £1,650 £3,300 £1,640 £3,280 226-255 £2,340 £4,680 £2,330 £4,660 Over 255 £2,745 £5,490 £2,735 £5,490

IN a UK SERVEY 69% of NEW EV BUYERS WONT BUY A TESLA BECOUSE of ELON MUSKS POLITICAL FAR RIGHT VIEWS TOWARDS the UK AND EUROPE EV buyers will choose Chinese EVs over Tesla due to Elon Musk says study kzbin.info/www/bejne/qonMiWqkZb5ofpI

once everyone is in one get ready for blackouts, with your nice shiny planet saver on the driveway unable to go anywhere, no internet and charging hubs down, life will be wonderful as long as you like walking.

The designs are improving but some of the smaller cars still look like a child's drawing 😂 Still excited to get one at some point in the next two years.

Doesn’t matter how much they are people don’t want them

8 Billion people want freedom to destroy the planet, regulation and planning can achieve an Earth for the future of all, not just fake freedom warriors that dont care

A subject not touched on was safe disposal of electric vehicle batteries? They harbor very toxic chemicals and there doesn't seem to be much going on with their safe disposal.... or is there?

With legacy auto finally realising that they can no longer attach silly high prices to their EVs (to protect their ICE sales), depreciation should be no more than the average new car.

Nice to see this video about PURCHASE prices comparing between EV and ICE. However. I'll note here (and also on other platforms) that an EV was already for many years much cheaper than any ICE car of the same luxury and size. For those who can calculate in TCO and also have a car for driving, not for being parked and only used incidental. However you are very right that at the start there werre no cheap EV models available. Much to much gadgets and options. I've seen the inster a few days earlier. In my country it starts at 25000 euro, top model 31000 euro. I looked to what the car delivers...and noted that the cheapest would not suit me. The next lever with extra option (winter pack including battery heating and heatpump) would do fine and would come around 27500 euroi. Estimated energy usage.... 7 km/kwh. When charging at home 1 eurocent energy/km (with solarpanel energy). I must tell...7 km/kwh is a little disappointing if we remember the ioniq 28kwh with heatpump doing 8 km /kwh for a bigger car. Still I'm happy with my much bigger ioniq 5...5,5 km/kwh on average iincluding pulling a trailer for 10% of the km. The small inster cannot pull anything. And that ioniq 5 was in 2021 already cheaper in purchase price than a lot of the comparable ICE awd cars same sized models.

Sounds like you think Labour will win the next election….now that’s just wishful thinking.

Don't assume that we don't want Chinese EVs, and that being a joint venture with Stellantis makes it MORE attractive.

Hi Dave, might be worth mentioning AW Energy at Checkey Wood, Hockliffe, Bedfordshire. They have several 150 kW chargers at 39p/kWh. Not the price at all their locations though.

Thanks Dave. I'm due to drive back to Yorkshire from Bournemouth next week. I'll probably stop for a quick top up. Your videos make me think using the Supercharger network should be reasonably easy. Fingers crossed 🤞

EV's are definately coming to the cheaper end of car buying. It has taken a while but they are here now and that is a fantastic thing. EV's should be compared to the automatic better specced ICE cars, as they usually have more features as standard. Great video Dave.

I have been moaning on this site and others about the cost of EV's. I took the plunge and bought a Seat Mii about a month ago, and sold my C3 Picasso Diesel. Now I have to get my wife out of her Panda, petrol, and start using the Seat around town, and have the Panda for long distance. She knows it makes sense, just charged the Seat with Granny charger Free for 2.5 hrs with Octopus. I loved the C3 but the Seat is great as well. Bring on the second hand EV market and bring the 300 mile car within easy reach financially.

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Im surprised about the Frontera. I was expecting a tiny battery but its got a 83Kwh battery 186 mile range. Although I have just reminded myself of just how much I hate car manufacturer web sites.

65ppkWh ? no thanks I will stick with Tesla on the go at 39 ppkWh !!!!

Yes Dave very much all change, I have an IPace and my wife a Fiat 500E, we ordered a Citroen EC3 plus some months back to replace the 500E, and it arrived at the garage yesterday, its due to get handed over to us in the next few days, some £7K cheaper than the Fiat was new 3 years ago.

A small budget Chinese EV may be cheaper than the petrol Fiat 500, but the electric Fiat 500 is still around £10k more expensive than the petrol versions of the same model. Why would a petrol car purchased in 2025 have “very little value” in three years if ICE vehicles are no longer will be allowed to be sold in the near future?! Limited availability would dictate the opposite. ‘Depreciation’ is a term that should frighten EV buyers more than buyers of ICE or even hybrid and the few models that will offer price parity in the coming year or so will be a revelation. EV subsidies, the mandate and the heavy government interference caused the used EV prices to reach rock bottom. Family and small EVs now compete with full-spec Maserati saloons and high-end BMW V8 coupes in depreciation. If there are three cars at the same price, one being ICE (purposely overpriced to ‘compete’ with the EV), a hybrid model (that the manufacturer is selling at a loss or with lower margin due to added complexity and extra battery) and an EV, I have no doubt that the EVs are not going to fair well.

You are right if you include the price of an auto gear box on an ice car

If you add on the premium for automatic, the equivalent EV is cheaper.

January sales figures. Petrol down 0.1% Diesel up 0.2% Hybrids down 0.6% BEVs down 1.1%.

We only rely on China because the British people and treacherous governments have allowed it to happen. Trump changed that 4 years ago and will change it again for the USA.

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On point, with sources, no propaganda. I am subscribing!

Dave, for the UK's ZEV mandate its been determined, by industry analysts, and stated by some of the automakers that they used the low-CO2 flexibility in the Vehicle Emissions Trading Scheme (VETS) behind the ZEV mandate to meet the 2024 targets (in the main, one automaker needed to buy credits of another automaker). This facility is available till 2027, so will be used this year, and allows the automakers to offset hybrids against the target level. This was part of the package of soft start measures built into the ZEV mandate, when the automakers were consulted years back during its design. The current 1st year review underway the automakers are asking for flexibilities to be extended, with analysts projecting the government will be seeking UK manufacturing guarantees in return.

The biggest detractor for people now is access to home charging. If you've got a private driveway, it's no problem at all. But if you're stuck with on-street parking, it can be nearly impossible. Or if you're in an apartment complex and the managers won't fit chargers, you're also at an impasse. Public charger prices take away a lot of the savings gained from having an EV (although for most modern EVs, the public charger prices per mile are comparable to fuel/diesel). UK new builds mandate a charger for each property which is great, but this doesn't address what happens for existing properties, and that needs to be looked at. My neighbour upstairs who had an EV6 and has a private charger recently went back to ICE because they described serious grief when trying to use public chargers while doing regular family trips up to Liverpool. And I can understand this. The EVs aren't the problem here - insufficient or unreliable infrastructure is. It's improving massively but we maybe aren't quite there yet. The combustion automobile has had a very long time to establish itself and the infrastructure to support them (forecourts) have been around a while too. EVs and infrastructure to support them has had only a fraction of the time to get there but is making leaps and strides. Maybe we'd get there quicker though if we didn't have the likes of Ford and Shell committing self-sabotage and hoping the governments might bail them out. I thought these big companies liked Capitalism though? "Adapt or die", isn't that the saying? Now suddenly they don't like Capitalism, is that what I'm hearing?

You can only "Easily" sell bevs to the public, if they want them. 2025 will be an interesting year to see how all car sales go.

All for the time being - till BRICS takes over.