LIED TO, BAMBOOZLED, AND LED ASTRAY: THE LOVE HYPOTHESIS RANT | Spoilers [CC]

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[@laurenherweyer2659]

one of the reasons why fanfiction can't be directly adapted into published books is that fanfiction assumes that you already know the characters and already root for the relationship so it often doesn't need to establish and develop characters and relationships

[@JessOwens]

Ooo didn’t think of it this way, but makes sense !

[@marisagettas]

Excellent point I had not considered. Thanks Lauren.

[@ambriaashley3383]

Wow good point!!

[@carmenponce5227]

Yes, completely agree with that. That's one of the main reasons why it's so hard for me to go from reading fanfiction to reading normal books.

[@laurensimendinger8887]

This is very true! I write fanfic and it’s hard for me to write regular fiction because I have to ~develop~ characters

[@samiraal-sharafi2169]

if i saw my professor have a PhD student on his lap at a lecture im never submitting an assignment or attending a lab for him again lmao

[@trafalgardwaterlaw6114]

It doesn't even have go to to that extent. There was this professor who used to call me and my friend, for academic "favours". Things like, helping him manage his notes, preparing samples for his undergrad classes, etc. One day, he slid his fingers across the back of our shoulders, and said some stuff. And that was it, he doesn't teach in our uni anymore.

[@chen1759]

Gonna file a complain too.

[@mitsuinormal]

Yes haha wtf

[@ettaetta439]

Instantly switching classes 🙏

[@nishthagupta1357]

Lol 😆

[@sophiemarie4682]

The "whole breast in his mouth" section made me laugh out loud at work

[@JessOwens]

I just can’t believe she wrote it, read it, and was like “yep, that’s the line”

[@katfin2531]

I kinda liked the book, but I was pissing it laughing at this line

[@thefriesofLockeLamora]

Saaaaame I was like is it a tootsie roll

[@Rosalie-yn1bt]

@@thefriesofLockeLamora 😂💀💀

[@canna8676]

omg I actually loved the book but that line had me in stitches!

[@brianna2278]

Honestly as someone in academia, it IS a big deal that he’s a professor, even if she’s not his student. Also, it would be highly unprofessional to sit on each other’s laps or kiss in front of their colleagues at work events. I have two friends/colleagues in my department who are married and they don’t even acknowledge it at work. I have not read this book because it is highly unrealistic. And at STANFORD too. Nah

[@RespektTheBovril]

I had two professors who were MARRIED TO EACH OTHER and I didn't even realize until I literally ran into them on summer vacation together.

[@brianna2278]

@@RespektTheBovril yes exactly!! If this happened in a real academic setting there would be a lot of heavy side-eye-ing at the very LEAST

[@JessOwens]

Ooooh, I am not in the world of academia so I didn’t know how frowned upon it all is 😬

[@Sarah-hc6kj]

I was thinking the exact same thing!

[@joreads8782]

@@JessOwens academics cannot each teach classes together if the are romantically involved. Had colleagues in the same department who had to declare their relationship so they were not put in the same course as course administrators together.

[@Cat-nm2rz]

"She touched him with her hands... the hands she did science with." Still makes me giggle.

[@PamNg]

Olive is written like a quirky sixteen year old and nothing can change my mind about it

[@JessOwens]

Yes !!!

[@clickymcclick7924]

Poor Rey. This author did her so dirty.

[@cassynedelisky796]

“Quirky”

[@denairasama]

And she's on HIGHER ED? 💀

[@moonknight7043]

If I would have known that before I bought the book I would have never bought it all.

[@katmichail13]

WHY is it that all the bad unnecessarily weird fanfics are THE ONES THAT GET PUBLISHED FOR MASS CONSUMPTION and to be this disrespectful to ACTUALLY FCKING INCREDIBLE FANFICS by extremely talented and gifted writers that exist...???!?!!! offensive to society, readers, and writers everywhere

[@srtatropicalia]

Omg, I connect deeply with this statement. Fanfic is a different media that is dependant on the original media,, but this can be adapted! And there are such amazing fanfic that focus on character arcs and can offer more flashed out characters. But the stories that get published always seem awful :/ Although, I do believe that a lot of fanfics can be truly enjoyed by the readers bc it's free, conveniently there in the internet and pulls into our stabilized connections to characters we love. But, at the same time, a lot of fanfic can also be polished enough to be published! I also think that bad fanfic being published is a result of the general taste of the "masses", that generally likemore cliche romantic tropes (I'm thinking about After and The Love Hypotesis). A lot of fanfic that gets popular relies a lot on sappiness and smut. Mostly smut. And I myself am also guilty of that, as I also have found myself falling in love with some fanfics that i know are not the best on a "technical level", but still catch my eye because of all the cute fluffy mushy couple stuff.

[@isthatawormwildbowreferenc4562]

what would you publish--a magnum opus, loved by the extremely tiny audience who has read it? or a really horrible, questionably written corny romance..maybe even give it a movie! [*free*, cough cough]

[@meggiep.2848]

also somehow it always irks me wrong that (as far as I have seen/the ones that get widely popular) only het fanfics get published, when queer stories are both the origin and the backbone of fanfic culture. just me?

[@Lucieth_AU]

@@meggiep.2848 it’s not just you, I’ve read amazing queer fanfictions in the persona 5 fandom for the m/m pairing akeshu, it pains me to know that those fanfics will never get published but something like this would

[@adamnreader4599]

@@meggiep.2848 THISSSS THISSSS THISSSS THO!!! like i will never understand this. queer fanfics are usually always more in a fandom. amd SO MANY GOOD ONES with absolutely beautiful writing!! and all i see are het fanfics getting published and i'm always like 'huh?'. it really has something to do with publishing i think smh

[@Jax-jx5uu]

"scientists? y'all are scientists?! and this is what you're doing?!" ☠️☠️☠️

[@JessOwens]

I was shocked and appalled

[@debraschnitzer8802]

Scientists are people too.

[@spcbnd1087]

Olive's bestie is honestly one of worst written characters I've ever read. Like WHO harrasses their friend to do pda with the boyfriend????? Huh??

[@whosahotmail]

I was reading it thinking Anh secretly knew they were fake dating and was purposely trying to get them together. When it turned out she really didn't suspect it, it made less sense.

[@lixaroncone8421]

Yesss I didn't like her character ether.

[@denairasama]

Malcom is the only one i liked and he's not even outstanding for me 😭 i want my money back

[@arthurmorgan2887]

@@whosahotmail your theory makes more sense. If she knew they were fake dating and wanted to mess with them because she had a secret sadistic tendency, that would make much more sense.

[@onlyyme6877]

Me

[@aridemes]

i’ve read a lot of smutty fanfic, but this book was the first time i genuinely got the ick reading a sex scene. the way things were described plus the image of Olive having sex while wearing unicorn knee socks just repulsed me.

[@angelsanwinhtay5171]

That's so weird omfg

[@parit6972]

LIT LMAO

[@nishthagupta1357]

😂😂😂

[@Shirafune161]

But she's so quirky and so smol uwu. It also find it weird how some authors tend to infantilize women to make them more "endearing". The height difference, the quirkiness, the weird fixation on virginity. Ew.

[@autumnnight8622]

‘You’re edible olive’ you don’t understand how long my laughing fit lasted for. I actually couldn’t breathe. I forgot I was reading a ‘rom-com’ for a second because what in the cannibalism was that please?

[@juliacasy8209]

she’s an “olive” 🥺 PLSSS IT WAS SO RANDOM

[@parmahmac6073]

Remember Olive also wore expired contacts and bragged about it. Such a rebel scientist. I laughed so hard. Jess you are hilarious. Everything you said was true but I still liked this book. I like tropey books sometimes even when they are executed poorly. I will not be seeking help for this at this time.

[@JessOwens]

Omg yes! Expired contacts- I just can’t take her seriously

[@levisparabatai]

“Scientists? Y’ALL ARE SCIENTISTS?” 😂😂 I have this book on my tbr but I KNOW I’d feel the same way about all the things you pointed out so I may need to give it a pass! 😂

[@ChattieTheMadChatter]

Ha ha was just about to comment about that part too. JESS that was epic right there!

[@WildeBookGarden]

I was already irritated about the ‘oooooh olive is just so SMALL’ crap at the beginning, but what made me actually dnf is that paragraph introducing Adam being the absolute worst to his students - like he made someone throw up from anxiety, he keeps HALF THE DEPARTMENT from graduating on time, and I’m supposed to like this guy?! Uh uh. Creating a toxic learning environment is a big no from me, I don’t care how much grant money you get. Also after deciding to dnf I remembered the sex scene excerpts I’d seen and YEP not for me. That boob one is so weird ?!! I’m so sorry you had to slog through this but thank you for confirming I made the right call!

[@JessOwens]

I like knowing what characters look like but when it is constantly repeated as if that’s their personality, I hate it

[@moustik31]

Making a student vomit is just cruel and totally on brand for him being a Kylo Ren standin.

[@dianacarolinaorozco1702]

Lol this character is more savage that severus snape and that man have some deep shit

[@satarupagingerkolay]

THIS! This right here. I gave this book a 3 stars on Goodreads ( don't know why) but now that I think about it I should really dock it down to 2. As a person who is in Academics( Not Science department but English Major) at the moment, I found nothing sexy or attractive about the way Carlson treated his wards. One can be honest about things but one can be that without being a complete douchbag. I genuinely felt for all the students who were crying because of Carslen because I know the pressure they must be under. That right there was so off putting that from then on the book started to go downhill for me. I usually don't like romance books only because such things are usually romanticized there.

[@Sun.daytravels]

I really hope Ali changes that in her books, it's so annoying. It's always teeny girl and big man, it's so weird.

[@ruubsb4630]

Don't forget he's been silently watching her for years, after that one meeting with her and her expired lenses. And he went on mentioning moments he's watched her from a distance at the end of the book. And nobody thought it was slightly creepy for a professor to take such an interest in a random student. And after he went down on her and they 'did the deed' without condom, she falls asleep and when she wakes up he goes down there again, with his fingers and it's described how she could hear her own wetness and his sp*rm. And he goes down on her again to 'clean' her.... Yeah and all of the things in this video. 2 stars for me too

[@ButtercupBooks15]

I was eating when I read this comment and the way pizza almost came back up… I hate when basic hygiene is ignored in books because the UTIs!!!! I can’t imagine.

[@JessOwens]

So much 🥴🥴🥴

[@nishthagupta1357]

Omg

[@onii_na4141]

the clear sign of fanfic: UTI inducing smut 😂

[@lolaloves6574]

You know this story is unrealistic when she’s skinny while only drinking coffee and eating chips and her cookie probably still tastes like candy instead of quarters 😭😭💀

[@nousersnamesleft]

Noooo! Not the cookie ☠️☠️😭🤣☠️☠️

[@melissah1663]

Actually I eat like trash and I’m 113 lbs 🥲 so it’s possible but the story is unrealistic yet I loved it tho 🙈

[@moustik31]

What?! No way. Maybe she uses Goop or something? 😂😭

[@briannagolatt]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mutsawashemaregedze4394]

@@moustik31 you're out of pocket😂😂😂😂😭🥲

[@lilith2125]

PREACH !!!!! I also hated Anh, too. Her forcing them into PDA was mortifying and uncomfortable to read, had to put down the book like 8 times before proceeding to another chapter. I get the "Women in STEM" girlboss trope but it fell flat for me in that area since the characters are so one-dimensional. The romance between Olive and Adam was just ... not it. God the sex scene was hilarious, too. Note: I also like to add the author's cringy way of trying to add a one-liner that went "Hold yourself with the confidence of a white man." or something and girl you're literally a white woman LMAOOO Nothing serious, just funny

[@jessicaa4436]

I thought that about the white man line too😭 a bit awkward to read

[@jnanakumar7123]

And in a workplace

[@satarupagingerkolay]

Tell me about it. Anh irritated me so much. Like girl, back off, it's none of your business.

[@taylor-sh2hl]

THANK YOU. Most of the stuff I cringed at or was annoyed with was instigated by Anh

[@inter_esting]

The author is Italian

[@starla807]

The fact that the Kylo-stand-in is named Adam, as in Adam Driver sends me in all the worst ways

[@soleya8185]

WAIT NO NO NO NO NO

[@k8ieedits]

adam DRIVEr and adam CARlson....also daisy and olive both technically being plants??

[@JessOwens]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jasminv8653]

Playing Harrison FORD's SON = CAR'S SON

[@ThatLizHunter]

I strongly felt that Olive was sharing very demisexual thoughts, but in the sex scene she made her own feelings out to be a bad things, i.e. "there's something wrong with me!" And Adam doesn't really argue, Olive never brings it up again or shares that her sexuality is good? We're just casually acephobic??? and that's supposed to be cute?

[@adamnreader4599]

THISSSSS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WRITING THIS!! because you're absolutely right!!

[@rebekahjacintags3285]

IT’S A REYLO FANFIC-? That was all I needed to know, I am OUT😭✋🏼

[@soleya8185]

NOOOO I JUST REALISED THIS IM JUST GETTING INTO STARWARS AND I HAVE A CRUSH ON KYLO (i read this book prior i didnt really like it and now its a fanfic aboit him😭)

[@treifrogy]

As someone in grad school I cannot imagine dating a professor in my department. It definitely happens but 🥴🥴🥴

[@khazianan]

Also, please do more "LIED TO ME" videos. We need someone to tell us the truth. I saw so many 5 star reviews and people raving about this book so I picked it up and I was honestly sooooo disappointed. I love fake dating but this was BAAADDDD!

[@maria-aquariusunbound]

Booktok is a lie. This review gets ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐.

[@JessOwens]

Thank you thank you 😌🥰

[@BlueberryPickles]

I enjoy fanfiction (and uhh may have written some on occasion) but the problem with translating it to published fiction is usually the characters. With fanfiction your audience is already connected to the characters and so it's okay if they're "shallow" because the focus is on the relationships between them. Your primary job as the author is to put them in situations where they can interact. (also, thank you, I felt like I was the only person on the planet who didn't understand the amount of praise this was getting)

[@JessOwens]

Yes. I think that’s it ! I have no history with these characters, so I felt nothing

[@valenz1234]

I also think that's just poor writing. Regardless of when you are picking up a book characters should have distinct personalities and you should be able get a feel for them. Some fanfiction gets away with shallow depictions of the characters though because of the reason you stated.

[@sharpaycutie2]

plus there not pro writers they just write for fun so im sure alot of it is poorly written

[@NerdyNurseReads]

I swear TikTok gives either old book recs or just terrible book recs

[@mikouf9691]

I was never planning to read The Love Hypothesis (not in the mood for romance novels lately and I don't like Teacher/student or fake dating tropes) but this rant/review was hella entertaining! Thanks for reading it so many of us don't have to. And Happy Thanksgiving if you are celebrating it! ❤

[@JessOwens]

Happy thanksgiving 🥰🥰

[@IBEtripz]

I realized im not a fan of the fake dating trope either because it usually goes hand n hand with miscommunication trope which is the absolute worst. It didnt help that i found Olive insufferable . She literally told him to “fuck off” for doing his job like what? Then she just lies the entire book over and over again. It drives me nuts I still liked this book more than spanish love deception tho 🤢

[@kaygray6149]

Here’s me thinking Reylo was some musician I wasn’t cool enough to be aware of this whole time 😂

[@JessOwens]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Lilli626]

I am SOO glad I'm not the only one that really didn't like this!! I feel like I read something completely different considering how crazy everyone is going for it. Was not for me at all and I like the fake dating trope

[@JessOwens]

I am baffled at the hype behind this book

[@kavya3292]

SAME

[@half-bakedthot]

the way everyone kept saying how good it was and it just...wasn’t. and i’ll read veryyy fanfic-y tropes if it’s written well but there was just nothing there

[@someonefromearth5231]

Can you recommend some good books with the fake dating trope? I really need some to read

[@renukabasyal1910]

Yeah!! I totally agree Everyone's going crazy about it and I was actually so disappointed while reading.i seriously regret buying This book is overrated.

[@jeilee3860]

As soon as I heard it was Reylo fanfiction I removed it from my tbr. I am in the Star Wars fandom and Reylo is a notp for me. I am very happy I made that decision. A good fake dating book I read this year was "While We Were Dating". It wasn't the most exciting but it was a good story and everybody was black so you know it got extra points for that lol.

[@JessOwens]

We love everyone being Black- I’ll have to check it out !

[@sdrawkcabemdaer5]

Maybe I'm just out of the loop but I had not heard the term notp before and I love it 😂

[@jeilee3860]

@@sdrawkcabemdaer5 lol it’s basically a ship that your are completely against. So like the opposite of an OTP. I read a lot of fan fiction.

[@shay8339]

I agree! While I did read the book, I am not a fan of Reylo. As a writer, that ending kiss did not make sense. I just wanted to see what the hype was about with this book so I decided to try it. I gave the book three stars mostly bc the whole prof/student romance makes me cringe and some of their interactions were unrealistic. As for the reylo thing, it didn’t totally seem like one.

[@jeilee3860]

@@shay8339 I feel like if it’s going to be Reylo (or based on Reylo) you need to go all in and have point that highlight the personality traits that are similar to the source material characters. Kyle has temper issues, daddy issues, a hero complex and is easily manipulated. Rey has a hero complex, and abandonment issues. I feel like with books based on fanfic you need to do something to let your audience know it’s these characters in a different setting.

[@rubyspot..]

It doesn´t make sense from the get go...what kind of professional would stay in a university that freezes the money for reasearch, because he may leave? Like, if i don´t get money of coURSE IM GONNA LEAVE ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

[@JessOwens]

The premise is terrible

[@rubyspot..]

@@JessOwens definitely, that’s why i don’t like this trope because usually the reasons are stupid damn this is poor 😭😭😭

[@eleni777]

*"scientists? Y'ALL ARE SCIENTISTS?"* i have not stopped laughing 😭

[@SM-fy4ij]

You touched on everything I DESPISED about this book and I’m just punching the air rn because I know it’s going to win Romance Of The Year on Goodreads. UGH. Side note, you’re hilarious, new sub 👋🏾

[@sweetpeabee4983]

I'm in STEM. I've not read this book, so I'll just comment based on what was mentioned in this video. The junk food obsession is a real thing in grad school, sadly. 😩 The "driveby dates" are also pretty realistic imo. In general, experimentalists sculpt their lives around lab time, and the bio department is notorious for super long and irregular hours. The girl who bases her personality on just being a woman in STEM stuff is um...kind of also a real thing. No shade, that type are just very, uh, _enthusiastic._ 😅 You say that they never show the guy being an ass and we're just meant to take it on gratis. Honestly, I think the author is just using shorthand here that only someone in STEM would get -- which is really shitty writing! But tbh, I think if you're in STEM, the fact that this guy is one of _those_ profs is a massive turn-off, so that's probably why the author doesn't go into detail lol. So basically, there's always like...that "one guy" (because it's always a guy 🙄) in seminars who asks questions that are not in good faith on purpose to make the presenter look bad and make himself look clever. This guy will inevitably be widely known to verbally abuse his students and force them to pull horrible hours. I've known "one guy"s who still expect their students to work through holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas if they are not satisfied with a student's progress. Publishing is essential for your career in STEM academia, and "one guy"s often will do some publication fuckery like not letting students publish because they want to sit on results for a more important future paper for themselves. They may even not let their students graduate on time on purpose to squeeze more publications out of them. Generally, these are selfish, petty little men, and the line about "well he treats everyone else like shit, but he's nice to ME!!" is, imo, gross as hell. I do not get how people can say that this book "renewed their faith in STEM." Like, the type of man who is a major reason why a lot of people leave STEM being romanticized like this doesn't strike me as something that would make me feel better about being in this field lmao. Frankly, I thought _Transcendent Kingdom_ fit that bill way better, but...🤷🏻‍♀️

[@fuzzydays5699]

Agree with all of this 100%. Any “one guy” that you stumble upon in STEM that acts like that should be kept at length if you’re able to. I sincerely hope you don’t have to meet them and if you do, don’t let it break your spirit for STEM.

[@buchbummelant8980]

The thing for me is he's not that type of abusive professor in the end. He makes a point of not making it about the students and always about the work and that he expects much and wants them to be great and therefore he makes all of his students re-do the work if he is not satisfied with their work due to his high standards. I think that's built up to the extreme and he gets called out for it by Olive, but it maybe helps see that the author tried to reject asshole-professors while still leaving Adam "antagonistic and unapprochable". It is also made a point that students who finish their degrees with him are always great scientists who go on to very high-paid jobs and with lots of publications and great expectations which they are able to handle. It is also a point made that he's not forcing his students to work 24h/7days a week but that he'll do the extra time if need be (e.g. for an experiment with a tight deadline). Again, don't want to apologise his behaviour, just wanting to expand what is actually in the novel. Is it great and realistic? Well ... probably not. But the characters are kind of well-built, even though not everyone has to like them. Also, I didn't know it originated as fanfic and I didn't get that vibe at all.

[@mars2_u782]

@@buchbummelant8980 Same about not knowing the fanfiction part. I did not know it was based on a fanfiction. Well, I enjoyed the story for the most and cried at the part where her friends find out about the incident with the bad professor. Anyway, all the best to you all in the STEM faculty/ major and all the best to you in general :D

[@ermelindasilvana1342]

I read the book but geez everytime someone metioned that he was a professor (and at the same department!) I disconnect from the book. It is so weird a romantic relationship between student and professor because there is kinda of a hierarchy even if is in different areas (the departments talk between each other), it gives a toxic vibe

[@lecturaslunares926]

To be honest i really liked the book when i read it, but hearing your rant i notice how many things i overlooked, its really nice to see other opinions And yes, there are a lot of ridiculous things xD

[@lixaroncone8421]

I think that's how I feel. Like honestly Olive did got on my nerves. I did live Adamn though. I just don't see it as him to be as bad as she try to make him see

[@JasminWilliams94]

Jess, I live for your honest rants 🤣😭 I don’t read romance but this video was hilarious! When you said “girl, just enjoy it damn!…sit back and enjoy that girl!” I hollered!

[@JessOwens]

Like sister girl, who complains when a man is going down on you without being asked ? Girl hush! 😂

[@em_harring]

I'm only halfway through the video right now, so maybe you mention this, but it's interesting to me how the topic of like big age gaps and the power dynamics/weirdness of that is being brought up a lot these days, but we still have books coming out about teacher/student relationships. Even if the student is a grown ass adult in grad school, that's still a huge power dynamic and really uncomfortable, especially in the same field. That's actually a Title IX nightmare. Like, I was in a grad program, and that shit never happened *in public.* The chair of the department would have shut that down quickly, you gotta sign a bunch of paperwork in order for it to be legit...it's a whole ass mess. And I haven't seen a single person talking about that in the context of this book! Maybe I'm just missing that convo happening somewhere. Anyhoo, loving the rant.

[@JessOwens]

I know in the book they mention it’s ok bc he’s not her direct advisor I think, but that’s really it

[@em_harring]

@@JessOwens Yeah that's definitely the worst case scenario, but at least in the humanities, it would still be a no no. Because there are still so many ways that a professor can impact your career (either positively or negatively). It still happens, like all the time, but it's not *public*. It's like hush hush did you hear that they're together. Especially amongst grad students.

[@buchbummelant8980]

It's acknowledged in the novel that he asks the dean about the situation and it's firmly established that he cannot under any circumstances be involved in her academic education and that he has to excuse himself if she should be involved in any way type or form from reviews or academic awards etc. It's also acknowledged that they are talked about by the department and that it comes with their own positive and negative repercussions. Sure they are not very realistic, but at least it get's acknowledged at all and it's not that whole "We have to keep it a secret"-storyline, which in my opinion is overdone. It was a nice change of scenery to have that not be the big deal of the story and their dynamic. It becomes kind of an issue later on, with its own repercussions, but it was fresh from a readers point of view.

[@pollyflores418]

Idk personally I’m just tired of fanfics turned books (and sometimes movies) always being straight when fanfic communities are full of lgbt people writing lgbt stories. They’re always super white too but I guess that’s because media is majority white so if you base your work on those existing characters they’ll be majority white too.

[@JessOwens]

Ugh, I know. There’s sooooo much better and diverse fanfic out there

[@candycane1744]

@@JessOwens and well written but they wanna stick with the cheesy badly written ones giving us a bad name

[@Hwishsiwk]

@@candycane1744 I agree. Fanfic gets such a bad rep because of the stuff that gets published. Even though I'm not part if the community it's still sad to see people downplay it.

[@jabiechan1633]

Honestly the best fanfic I see is where they take creative liberties with characterization, so like you're literally reading a book for free with characters you happen to know. I don't know, I think fanfics can only be translated well if you do a LOT of rewrites.

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

Which is probably why I'll never see any if the will and Warren sky high fan fiction get published 🥲

[@ericareagan1]

My problem was the author being self aware with all the tropes. Like the “there’s only one bed!” And her commenting that this was a badly written rom com. Like…why is the writer roasting themselves.

[@ericareagan1]

I just got to the part where you covered this exact thing 😂😂😂😂😂

[@idontneedaname318]

It's said to be funny but it often just makes it awkward .. acknowledgeing the tropes does not make them less forced and tropey

[@jordansiarya762]

LITERALLY LMAOOOOO

[@Sarah-hc6kj]

As a scientist, I completely agree with the STI rant.

[@JessOwens]

It made me so mad !!

[@QManagerin]

hey, at least they were using sunscreen ;) It made no sense...I hate when protection gets brushed over so easily in contemporary romance- and this supposed to be smart people.

[@rq741]

This was entertaining as hell and I cackled the whole way through (thank you for solidifying the fact that I never want to read this book)

[@JessOwens]

You are so welcome 🥰😂

[@brunatonella]

I felt the same thing when I was reading The Spanish Love Deception. Everyone seems to love it, but there was NOTHING interesting about it, they were only bickering at each other all time like two 5 year olds, distributing hate left and right for no legit reason, and I refused to spend my life till I reached the 60-70% where people told me is when they were supposed to make up (and apparently make out). No, thanks. This one was also on my list, but I believe in you and I will NOT waste my time on it, thanks 😂 21:00-on had me rofl 🤣

[@JessOwens]

I don’t understand what people see in this and by your description, I am not gonna read the Spanish Love Deception. So thank you ☺️

[@bb_reads]

I didn't like the Spanish deception either! Finally someone who agrees. That book didn't have anything interesting, I wrote a huge rant on Goodreads for it.

[@NvrShoutNvr93]

So as someone who loved the Spanish Love Deception, will I like the love hypothesis 🥴

[@MJSpice]

Oh no. I'm reading that one. Now I'm worried.

[@bb_reads]

@@NvrShoutNvr93 You most likely will! Most of my friends who liked one of the books liked the other as well. Happy reading, hope you enjoy. :)

[@kimberlyhaysdemuga2240]

Okay, the whole baby birth comparison had me snort laughing. Thankful for this rant on Thanksgiving.

[@JessOwens]

🤣🤣🤣

[@DaniSInNC]

I haven't read this book, but I can totally relate concerning the overemphasis on the morality of food choices. I've read more than one book where the heroine's main character trait seemed to be that she ate "bad" food and never went near a vegetable. It is annoying to read about a character living off of Doritos and Cheerwine and not even accepting a decent meal when someone else is paying for it. As for this particular book, I dodged that bullet because I only read books from KU and my library. I would have been thoroughly upset if I paid money for a book and disliked it so much.

[@JessOwens]

Yes ! What someone eats is not a substitute for a personality

[@booksnlipstick]

@@JessOwens *casts knowing glance upon Discovery of Witches……(lol I swear her eating toast and being great at everything are that MC’s only traits)

[@getout3749]

I think it was more of a movie trope first (like you want to establish your character as a Wild Different girl, so you make a scene where she eats cold pizza for breakfast) and then it merged into written fiction, cause these authors grew up on Hollywood movies.

[@frenzy2061]

I've read fanfics that flesh out the characters better than the source material itself does, fanfics that are unique and well structured and just overall SO amazingly well written. There's so much good stuff out there, so I don't get why it's always fanfics like this that manage to get published instead.

[@SallySimply]

I needed this review today. These laughs are gonna get me through the weekend, for sure. I didn't have any interest in reading this, and you've just affirmed that for me, thanks so much lol

[@JessOwens]

🙌🏾🙌🏾😹😹

[@yurt2773]

i only heard of this book ONCE and immediately knew it was Reylo fanfic. Its so obvious with the literal cover. Yet some people think its a perfectly original story. How?!

[@buchbummelant8980]

I haven't seen the new Star Wars movies, don't read fanfiction and only stumpled upon the book by a picture on instagram. I enjoyed the book and only later learned that it was based on a fanfic and I didn't get that vibe at all. It was one of the better romance books I read in the last few months and it felt kind of fresh with certain topics.

[@emilythomas9012]

Honestly it kinda sounds like the author has some personal issues with eating and body image. The hyper fixation on physical smallness and labelling food good and bad is damaging content to have in a romance book for teenage girls and I'd be worried about the message it sends

[@norahunter]

YES!!! Thank you for this review and for making me smile! You put my feelings about this book into words better than I ever could have. I'm glad so many people found happiness with this story, but I'm just bewildered.

[@shrilleth]

The moment I realized that Anh was meant to be the equivalent to Rose, which would make Olive’s ex the equivalent of Finn I literally convulsed.

[@clarabrandaog]

I don't think that's right. Finn is supposed to be Olive's roommate, who gets with Adam's childhood friend at the end who is Poe. Olive's ex is supposed to be Hux.

[@shrilleth]

@@clarabrandaog wait, that would mean that Rose is trying to get with Hux? Jesus Christ that’s somehow even worse

[@RaspberryDevil]

I feel so bad because you're so mad about this book while I was laughing about how stupid some lines were :') Really enjoyed your rant review, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. I've read fanfiction which are better than a book and those which were worse, so it doesn't factor in my decision to read a book. Though all the reviews before about the forced fake dating just tell me it's not for me. If you decide to fake date, at least commit or it's not fun because it has no real pining!

[@JessOwens]

Yes! There was no commitment to the fake dating- not believable at all

[@KD-CD]

"I'm not a scientists though" aka it is what it is😩😩 I need some scientists to come and CLEAR the air about whats told in this book lmao

[@JessOwens]

Immediately!!

[@unrealmai]

ok I just started the video and I literally screamed YESSS!!! After reading The Love Hypothesis, I was so confused on why people were hyping up the book as much as they did because I just didn't see everything that they were seeing. I can see why people would love it but my biggest disappointment with the book is the child-like dialogue/premise. How am I supposed to believe that the characters are mid 20s and early 30s when the main snarky banter between Olive and Adam is that she likes pumpkin spice latte and he hates sugary drinks.........like what?? The whole book felt like I was reading a YA book when I swear it was marketed as adult romance. Also, they only had like 3 "dates" and all of a sudden they were saying "I love you"......again, they are supposed to be mid 20s and early 30s. I feel like an issue I'm starting to see with these type of books is that they focus a lot on tropes for example 'fake dating' and it feels like they are ticking off a checklist rather than fleshing out the characters and making them characters to actually care about. Another thing was the s£x scene like I couldn't stop cringing from the dialogue. Reading The Love Hypothesis reminded me that the book was a fanfic/ Ali Hazelwood was a fanfic writer which is kinda unfortunate because there are so many diverse and really amazing fanfics that exist but they are never the ones being published.

[@books_with_clementine]

Hum wow now I really don’t want to read this book… being a woman in STEM, I find completely unbelievable and unrealistic that a professor has his funding blocked by the university board, because he would likely have federal grants, so the university would not want to block it as they would also block the money they would get from it… also, that means he can leave while they block it and go to another university… Sexual assault scene: she should just file a title IX, like Adam mentioned right in the beginning… Also completely agree, she is a PhD in biology, so no protection ?!

[@mommys-lil-tortlet]

Thank you for this, I had to work black Friday and this got me through it. Your brutal honesty is hilarious and refreshing

[@clippychan530]

I love fan fiction so I really liked this book, I could suspend my disbelief for the fake dating, student/ professor, “mean guy is nice to people he likes” and all that. But I totally agree that I was bothered by Anh. The author always talks about how Olive and Anh are best friends but it isn’t shown at all, there’s one scene at the start of them hanging out and it’s a short one. I was also kind of bothered that Anh basically told the whole school about Olive and Adam? I understand why but with how quickly everything spread you’d think the first thing she did was tell someone. Something about it just put me off and made me doubt how close they really were. The sitting on the lap thing really came out of nowhere for me. I really think the scene could have gone better if they sat next to each other and she thought about sharing the arm rest or holding his hand or something. Something that is a little more mellow but still builds tension then the author could lead to the kiss then the sunscreen scene. I have other problems with the sunscreen scene but it’s kind of camp idk. Things really went from 0 to 100 to 0 then back to 100. I also think the authors could have done more with their interests? Early in the book olive says that she likes to run and later it’s revealed that adam also likes running, there totally could have been some kind of exercise date thing instead of the same coffee/ lab cycle they’re always in. Ik they wanted to keep it on campus but i feel like it would have helped their chemistry. I wasn’t a huge fan of olive but I thought her scenes with adam were the best ones for her character. I liked them getting to know eachother and I didn’t mind the sex scene along with the stuff that happened after it but I definitely think the “he doesn’t like me like that” angle was pushed a little too far. Like I could think she was naïve enough to think that he didn’t like her before but after the sex scene and most of the later fake dating stuff there’s no excuse for her to be that dumb. Despite this, I still really liked the book. I haven’t read anything in forever so it was an easy read for me to start with. It was fun to read and every time I started I couldn’t stop. The book reads like a fanfiction in style and in premise so to anyone who doesn’t like that then they definitely won’t like this book.

[@comfypoptart2357]

Okay, but your skin is literally so PERFECT ✨

[@SuperAstor]

I gave this book 5 stars and I have watched this video more than 5 times. :) It is my comfort watch, you are hilarious, thank you for bringing so much joy to me.

[@candybee2648]

This review was absolutely hysterical. I almost rolled off my couch I was laughing so hard! Never commented before but just want to say you’re my favorite booktuber. Thanks for all the great content and laughs!

[@JessOwens]

Awh thank you 🥺🥰

[@adamnreader4599]

as an aroace person who enjoys romance but can easily dislike a romance book if it cringes me just a little, this book is like a nightmare to me lol

[@EH-rq4lr]

Im starting to think im just no thoughts head empty all the time because I loved this book when I read it but as you mentioned all of these points I was like oh shes completely right, how did I not notice that 😂

[@JessOwens]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@viktoriabazyk8193]

i was laughing so hard at your review of the sex scene i thought i was gonna choke and die😂 honestly never wanted to read this book but i'm grateful for the amount of entertaining rant content it provides

[@denairasama]

I finished it and i regretted buying it like.. give me back my money ali hazelwood I like fake dating and ali hazelwood m*rdered it 😭😭😭😭😭 The irony in my experience is that im reading a fanfic that is also fake dating before jumping into this book AND ITS MUCH MORE BETTER THAN THIS BOOK THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY REAL MONEY TO BUY and the fanfiction is free.

[@peach_beach028]

This was hilarious, I’ve never even heard of this book I just stumbled across this video randomly but you had me cracking up the whole time

[@EmilyParagraph]

i mcfrickin lost it at "women give birth" XD

[@JessOwens]

Absolute unacceptable. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

[@JulieTheReader]

“All of it.” NOO. What. “Women give birth.” HOW DID IT GET WEIRDER? No, thank you. The last fake dating book I read was Hani and Ishu’s Guide to Fake Dating. I guess because it was YA, it had to focus on other aspects of the heroines’ lives (family, toxic friendships, etc.) in addition to the romance. I will pass on this.

[@stephanieraylove]

Oh no, not olive not being like other girls 😭🤣

[@moustik31]

In the year of the Lord 2021 too!!!

[@stephanieraylove]

@@moustik31 this is why Jesus wept 🤣

[@escapedscienceexperiement9824]

i love the video and ur points. im kinda sick of romance stories where sexual assault is used to further the romance that does not sit right w me at all.

[@milkflavored]

Thank you for saving me time! I see this book everywhere and everyone keeps reccing it but I was skeptical!

[@littleseaturtle]

i've never heard of this book but this popped up in my recommended. you're so entertaining and thoughtful that i watched full through!! new subscriber 🤍

[@siobhanphoenix9789]

lol I totally needed this video of yours tonight! I love how you are really comically blunt about the characters, things they said ! I'm so glad I never gave this book a read or one of my audible credits lmao KEEP IT UP GIRL! Love your videos!

[@chickenpermission4705]

I was cringing so hard from just hearing you read out the lines. I don't know how you survived a whole book of this

[@JessOwens]

I am unsure how I made it through

[@shomelidey9177]

Honestly, as a sort of ex reylo ( who also read the first 3 pages of this when it was a reylo fic btw, I clicked out fast because it had the standard writing red flags I will talk about later) who has seen this fandom became a writing self righteous circus, your review just proved what I have always known all along-- the whole self insert mania was what propelled Rey and romance writing popularity in that fandom for so long. I disagree with comments people have here that its the problem with fanfic to original book transition( maybe in terms of writer forgot she was supposed to make us care for Olive and write a legible premise) because I have seen many books do the same and never betray that the fanfic roots ( Sylvain Reynolds, even E L James is not that bad) . The problem has been this fandom in particular had collective bad ideas on what a good book, way to write a female protagonist and love interest in "enemy" or even rival setting was. Now it has been exposed out of their little bubble, for everyone to see . You cannot expect to not give your character any legible challenge, carry over premises and feelings from original movie in ludicrous scenario to make someone like or dislike a character , and then expect to be hailed Rabindranath Tagore for it ( the whole "Oh Adam is so unlikable! oh you kissed unlikable professor?" Oh that is the problem here? not that you kissed a random man without his permission? isn't that straight up assault? just because he is :villain: Kylo in OG work am I supposed to always be against him no matter what context? this is nuts!) They just write bad fanfiction even by fanfic standards and had no interest in listening to anyone say how bad their writing was. The write all this premise ideas and use NONE OF IT ( like "girl in STEM"?? weird shit to sell a book with but OliveRey being in STEM had barely any relevance in the plot , at least I do not remember the fic tagging "women in STEM!" as a selling point. I am reading Chinese mlm webnovels now everything they specifically point out in blurb has so much relevance in the plot, its insane this kind of substandard book is getting book deals while my Chinese writer counterpart have to dodge persecution for this...)

[@cynthialovesbooks]

Thank you for your review and for the way you delivered it! You always make me smile.

[@JessOwens]

🥰🥰

[@xodarinaaa]

OMG!!!! This video is so spot on. I loved every minute of this video. I felt the same way, and had the same reactions about everything in the book.

[@LilyBugInterrupted]

This is the first honest review on The Love Hypothesis I stumbled across. I swear, the devil works hard, and the promoters of this book work harder. Overhyped for no reason at all.

[@nicholaslewis862]

This video was recommended to me by the unknowable machinations of the YT algorithm. My bread and butter is science fiction, but your review was so entertaining I had to stick around. You've got a natural sense of humour. Thank you and I'll definitely be sticking around for more.

[@derrisreaditbefore]

omg. I think I love you. This was simply WONDERFUL!

[@britwww]

Late to comment but grateful for the honesty and breath of fresh air you bring to Booktube!

[@JessOwens]

🥰🥰

[@arlissbunny]

Thank you! You have saved me!!! I really don’t read romance for all the reasons you mentioned. This book has been in my TBR because Mara loved it so much and I was going to try to read a romance again but now this won’t be the one. BTW I am a scientist (physics PhD) and it seems to me that this book could have been so much more. So many of the colleagues I have worked with are on the spectrum or are simply better with coding and numbers than with people, this book could have gone that way. Or, gone after the insanely high stresses of grant competition and how that manages to quash relationships ITRW. Or how the amount of familial, cultural or national pressure can threaten to squash everything else out of the lives of scientists. My point is that there could have been a lot of drivers for a fake dating relationship trope that could have better reflected the real world of those in the scientific community. For this author to have missed that opportunity is unfortunate.

[@lindahunt3022]

Jess, I had just finished watching a romantic comedy prior to viewing your review. I didn't lol once during the entire movie but during your review of Love Hypothesis I literally had to hit pause several times because I was laughing so hard and could no longer hear what you were saying. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, making me laugh and helping me savie Audible credits.

[@fs5885]

I have been WAITING for this review - no lies detected! Thankful for your videos; happy turkey day to you and Nigel 🐾

[@JessOwens]

Happy Turkey day!

[@alongrandomwalk8126]

Thank you for this! Honestly, I think it's an insult to Stanford, because why would such a prestigious institution need proof that any professor would want to stay with them, much less to deem that his having a girlfriend in the department would be said proof that he's not a flight risk? That was the biggest turn off for me.

[@GarnetRodLady]

Sounds like characters become cardboard cut outs when you file off the fanfic and remove the characterization of the original characters they were based on. 😒

[@nataliegk7242]

*removes from TBR* 👀👀👀 I heard so much about it that I considered reading it, but you have released me from it! And I am so thankful lol 😂 🙈

[@JessOwens]

You really shouldn’t waste your time 😂

[@ritzee13]

Great rant, loved it...also your hair is so pretty girl😍

[@oak3785]

"is he an 8 pound baby?" LMAOOOOO

[@alyxfaye]

Hahaha, I literally stopped and said “what the..” when I read the ‘breast in mouth’ scene, then showed my bf and we kept laughing about it. I am a woman from STEM and I actually enjoyed the book (minus the sex scene), even if it was super predictable and shallow. But I love fake dating tropes and fourth wall breaks. And I still thoroughly enjoyed this review. I actually agree with everything you said lol. Also had no idea this was a Reylo fanfic and I hate the Reylo pairing. So that’s interesting.

[@sarinasoren7818]

I’m dreading the reveal that this won best romance, please take a moment to vote for literally anything else

[@Gthefray]

I had a feeling this wasn't going to be my type of book & didn't even bother looking into it further. This video is so entertaining!! The video title alone got me laughing. Not really knowing anything beyond it being fake dating really made watching this all the more enjoyable. May I add, you look stunning in this

[@alliefawcett5246]

This rant was so fun to listen to! Thank you!

[@shawnaclay3801]

So happy you made this video! I thought something was wrong with me for hating this book, because every one else seemed to absolutely love it. 😂 Everything in this video that was said, needed to be said. Agreed with every word.

[@JessOwens]

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@joreads8782]

As an academic there would be no way I could suspend disbelief and read that. Thank you for the entertaining review and saving me from reading this book!

[@lightlightpink]

this book sounds absolutely wretched for many reasons, thank you so much for bravely reading it for us 😔💜

[@valenz1234]

I love you bro haha Also I love your facial expressions and the way you like express yourself!

[@samiwich678]

JESS!!! :) You hit the absolute nail on the head. I'm literally sitting here right after finishing this book, wondering to myself, "How can anyone make it through this empty, vapid novel?" The side characters were so underdeveloped, and absolute caricatures of the stereotypes they fit! Ahn being pushy and angry, and her entire personality being focused on social justice, just felt like it fell into the "angry woman of color" stereotype! And Malcolm being a queer character who "has a revolving door of conquests" (literally a line taken from the book), is just another stereotype for a character who is not fully fleshed out!! They literally only exist to serve the needs of Olive, who is, herself, so absolutely annoying. THANK YOU for making this video and drawing a point to these cringey characters (She eats Doritos???? GASP), cringey dialogue (comparing a vagina to a pat of butter is where I draw the line dude) and just absolutely bland male romantic interest. You're my hero EDIT: I LITERALLY SCREAMED WITH JOY WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE PART WHERE SHE COMPARED SEX TO BIRTH. THANK. YOU. JESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL??????????????????

[@nousersnamesleft]

Someone else who agrees!! 3 friends told me to read this. I was like I thought y’all were my friends.

[@JessOwens]

🤣🤣🤣 they don’t love you. They tried to lead you astray

[@nousersnamesleft]

@@JessOwens 🤣🤣 for real.

[@r.c4325]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Hannah_Isobel]

I’ve not read this book, but I have been absolutely creasing at your review 😂 new subscriber! X

[@phanie6067]

I didn't know it was originally reylo fanfiction LOL NO WONDER. When I was reading it, it reminded me of fanfics I used to read and now it just makes sm sense