Lies of P made me realize I suck at games

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Lies of P is a soulslike third person action role-playing video game. It was developed by Neowiz Games and Round8 Studio. It is loosely based on the Italian novel, The Adventures of Pinocchio. The game is available on Playstation 4, Playstation 5, Windows, macOS, Xbox One, and Xbox Series X/S.
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[@thejanman]

Glad to see a video! Hope you are well!

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Hey bud!! Haven't talked to you in a while. I'm doing good. Just getting over this cold I've had for the last couple of week😞Finally starting to feel better. Hope you're doing well also. And hope you had a fun Halloween with the kids yesterday😊.

[@liamwynne566]

This is my GOTY and quickly shaping up to be one of my best games ever, which I never thought I'd be saying that about a Soulslike game about bloody Pinocchio ffs lol

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Guess what? They just confirmed a sequel!

[@liamwynne566]

@@SuperJumpReviews and DLC, I can't wait!

[@SuperJumpReviews]

@@liamwynne566 to be honest, I'm really surprised they announced a sequel so soon. Game must've sold really well I assume.

[@liamwynne566]

@@SuperJumpReviews aye apparently 1 million in only a few weeks, and imagine sales will continue to increase going forward too. They definitely deserve it, not just because the game is great, but because they're one of the only modern devs who released a product that was well optimized and relatively glitch free 😂

[@SuperJumpReviews]

@@liamwynne566 That's impressive, especially for a new IP👍yeah I do agree. This game was relatively glitch free and you really did feel like you got a complete game unlike most games these days.

[@Original-Juice]

I'm so terrible at these types of games. I am admittedly a 'Filthy Casual' and simply cannot 'Git Gud' at them. I'm also 45 years old so I have no shame admitting this!!

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Hey, for someone who's 45 you certainly know all the gaming lingo😊Don't sweat it. You got my respect simply for playing games to begin with. Some people won't even give it a chance.

[@Original-Juice]

@@SuperJumpReviews thanks for your comment and awesome videos! Keep it going man!

[@zanychelly]

I got furious fighting against Lawrence the First Vicar in the Bloodborne dlc. I’m willing to get this one, alongside Lords of the Fallen.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

If you can beat Lawrence the first vicar then the archbishop should be no problem for you😊

[@Gailardia]

So with how my schedule worked out in September i played and beat Arch Bishop before the patch, but still Green Monster was/is worse!

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Oh definitely! But I think archbishop was like the first wake up call moment for me. Like it was finally telling me this game wasn’t as “easy” as I thought it was🤣

[@jonate79]

Shadows dies twice is the first game that made me quit when I got to the last boss fight.... I just couldn't take I anymore lol

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Oh no! You made it so far though! Just finish it! You can do it.

[@jonate79]

@@SuperJumpReviews You don't understand the stress level I had to go through in that dam game!! Owl Father fight dam near made me quit!!! Maybe sometime in the future I'll reply it all over again cause it's been years since I played the game.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

@@jonate79 dude I had the same problem with a game called Shinobi on the ps2. I never played it back when it came out so I recently picked it up. Helluva game and I made it to the last boss and just couldn't do it. I figured this is as far as I'll go and left it at that. But knowing that I had left it unfinished just kept eating at me, haha. I went back to it and was finally was able to beat that cheap sonofabitch lol. It was so satisfying. Now I won't ever have to play that damn game ever again😂

[@roumandas2690]

Great video. But I am eagerly waiting for your next best PS5 games to play list

[@SuperJumpReviews]

You're gonna like the next one😊

[@trancepower1205]

It's just my opinion but I don't understand why games need to be this hard? Or at least you should be able to adjust the difficulty because it can def make or break a game for me.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

On one hand I understand why. I guess some people just like a challenge. But on the other hand, when I play a game, I play it because I want to be relax. Not stress myself out because of a hard ass boss haha. I don't know. Let's hope the new patch made the bosses easier🙏

[@trancepower1205]

@SuperJumpReviews 100% agree bro 👍

[@stark5679]

I hear you on that. Im not one for proving myself worthy on completing on a higher difficulty setting. Im more for the story, animation and replay value if it unlocks extras. Im just a casual player, finish and move on. I did buy Lies of P. I played the demo before, and i wasn't all that great😅. But i do like the style, story, and atmosphere, so I'll give the actual game a go eventually.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

@@stark5679 I hate having to prove myself as well even more so because even if I did, no one would even know or care if I completed a game or not haha. So it's more of a pride thing but I think for me, it has more to do with my ocd😬

[@dirac_dydx1830]

I understand that sentiment; I felt the same about Elden Ring, because of the amount of bullshit they threw into the boss fights. But when I played Lies of P, despite having more trouble than almost any other game I've played, I really enjoyed it. Maybe I'm crazy (I'm autistic, possibly bipolar, probably borderline, and definitely a weirdo), but the fact this game pushed me to my limit so many times in what felt like a fair way, made me absolutely adore it. This game is insanely difficult. But I don't see a problem with that; as long as there are plenty of other games that are more accessible and enjoyable, then why not have some games that are hard as balls so masochists like myself can feel like they're actually accomplishing something meaningful in their lives? Even if it's only proving to themselves that they can improve and overcome challenges in a particular leisure activity? Also, FYI, you have the option to summon for all major boss fights (except for one optional fight). That's the easy mode, because regular enemies are almost embarrassingly easy to kill, and elite enemies are difficult but easily avoided. TLDR; there's nothing wrong with not liking these kind of games. Any loser that calls you a "casual" for not subjecting yourself to the learning curve is someone not worth talking to. But these games do appeal to certain types of people. And this game is so freaking good, in so many ways, that I am glad it is the way it is.

[@MarkerMurker]

I think there's something you didn't fully take into account. The game *doesn't* require the perfect guard. Especially for the Archbishop. Dodging is equally viable. You have plenty of s and you're supposed to mix it up depending on what works for you.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

well I mean I did mention the dodge move. I just didn't mention it during the archbishop part. I've seen someone defeat the archbishop with just dodging so it is possible but for the average gamer its just not very easy. Knowing the perfect guard really does help. just my opinion. But yeah, I get what you mean.

[@johndodo2062]

​@SuperJumpReviews the dodge is legit more forgiving than the parry all day. Blocking and then attacking, followed by running from red attacks will win every fight every time if you get your health back at the right times.

[@joeknight2689]

Yo! I thought about Megaman too with Dr. Light and Dr. Wily! Granted the setting is very different, but there are noticeable similarities. I’ve been having a blast. It has subverted my expectations in a great way.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Yeah, like Geppetto is Dr. Light and the legion arm attachments are like when you absorb powers from other characters haha

[@johnodaz1273]

Really cool Video SJR. I gotta be in the right mood too Play a Souls Style Game, the ones i've actully Finished is Bloodborne and Mortal Shell, maybe Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order if you class that as a sort of Souls Like Game, funny enough i can't get into the Dark Souls Franchise but the other Souls Like Games i.e Nioh, Sekiro etc i do really enjoy Playing before moving on that is lol. Lies of P is a gorgeous looking Game and does have that Bloodborne looks about it, not really gotten round too Playing this yet but it is on my Radar tho.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Same here, I'm very specific about my souls games. Never could get into the Dark Souls games but I do enjoy Sekiro. I think it's the story that does it for me. If the story is interesting enough I'm willing to sit through all the deaths haha. Good to hear from you! Hope everything is well.

[@johnodaz1273]

@@SuperJumpReviews all good by end bro, I hope you are doing well aswell. Yh I hear man Sekiro is absolutely brilliant, I was doing well but moved on too Play another Game, I've gotta really bad habit if I move on from a Game that I haven't Finished too Play another Game, it's very rare I'll go back too that set Game and Finish it Off.

[@johndodo2062]

What kind of armor did you have inside? I never even got close to getting one shot against any of the bosses. I ran at medium weight but was always able to have to best internals to mitigate damage really well

[@SuperJumpReviews]

I can't remember off the top of my head. But if you're good with the parry you won't need armor hehe

[@dirac_dydx1830]

Soulsborne games are unforgiving. Lies of P is DEMANDING. You can't just rely on reaction time and pattern memorization; a few of the harder bosses require strategy as well. FromSoft bosses that require you to use critical thinking are largely gimmick fights; once you figure out the gimmick, the fight is barely engaging at all. But several lies of P bosses have mini-gimmicks in addition to challenging movesets, so you need to develop a counter-strategy to what seems to be unfairly difficult situations while also putting your normal soulslike skill set to work. While I don't think it's as hard as Bloodborne's DLC or Dark Souls 3's DLCs, I do believe it is easily harder than any of FromSoft's base games (apart from Elden Ring, but fuck the Fire Giant and fuck Malenia). This game kicked my ass six ways to Sunday. It pushed me to my limit in a way I haven't been since The Old Hunters. One boss killed me 35 times. Yet, I can only think of one or two boss attacks that felt unfair; everything else felt well balanced but, well, demanding. I just felt I didn't play well enough, so I stuck with it and persevered. This game is definitely not for everyone. And that's okay. I personally like the fact that it's so ridiculously difficult (for me; I'm not good at these games) that I felt the need to be at the top of my game to beat the bosses. I died a crap-ton, and I loved every minute of it. I'm also autistic, so that probably helped in me becoming obsessed with this game and sticking through to the end. This game has surpassed Dark Souls 3 as far as how much I enjoyed the single player experience, so it is my third favorite game of all time (behind Silent Hill 2 and Bloodborne). And if you absolutely hate it, that's totally cool; it's just a video game, after all. Edit: For the record, the Archbishop fight is one of my favorites in the game. Obviously, you hated it, so I'm not going to try to change your mind. I'm just saying it's not nearly as bad to other people as it is to you. That's not me trying to insult you or being an arrogant asshole; obviously everyone struggles with different things.

[@tendjinn]

I thought the fire giant was easy but I had to have help with Malenia. That one I just couldn't.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Bro, you hit the nail on the head! Perfect explanation. There was something about this game I quite couldn't explain but you said it perfectly👍I like difficulty games but I think I like them more in the vein of Ninja Gaiden kind of difficulty. I was never a fan of the stamina meter but I think it wasn't so bad in this game which is why I really enjoyed it up to the half point haha.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

@@tendjinn You had a hard time with Malenia too huh?

[@solutionxero]

isnt update in november or was that the DLC?

[@SuperJumpReviews]

I think your thinking of the DLC. Difficulty patch came out in late September I think.

[@javiercavazos8109]

"I am a good gamer" *Summons

[@UWG3]

Gate keep much?? This is a detestable trait of the hardcore Souls community! looking down on anyone that accepts help in the game.

[@oswaldfigglebottom]

True hardcore gamers play fat princess

[@SuperJumpReviews]

😂

[@stephensearles673]

I was very much on the fence about this game mainly because of all the videos about how hard it was, so glad i thought what the hell and bought it, coz its amazing and even though I've died so many times I've never wanted to throw in rhe towel lol definitely my game of the year

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Yeah I think out of all the souls games I’ve played this one has the best story line. It’s what kept me playing☺️

[@stephensearles673]

@@SuperJumpReviews yeah the story is really good, I'm definitely doing new game plus to see all the endings, anyway liked and subscribed 👍

[@victorsolorzano5841]

I don't want to sound rude, but common, Pinocchio is not a Disney's character itself, it's taken from a book (avventure di Pinocchio) by the Italian author Carlo Collodini. Good video though 😅.

[@damhatrebloc]

the devil in my mind yelled at times! " YOULL NEVER BEAT IT, NEver Beat lies of p, in ya life Lol. The very last section of the game almost made me break my tv and controller in one

[@kcadventures1454]

I have a friend at work that was raving about this game until the arch bishop fight, not anymore haha. I'll just let the masochists enjoy this game, meanwhile I'll just play something that puts me in a good mood.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

hahahahah that's funny! Was he able to beat the arch bishop?

[@kcadventures1454]

@@SuperJumpReviews hell no, I asked how is it going he said: man, eff that game I deleted it! Haha.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

@@kcadventures1454 😂😂bawahahahahahahahahah🤣

[@cedric1138]

Sekiro and Nioh kicked my ass! I cont have the time for hard games these days although i seem to be ok at them, when i was groing up with the NES the games were hard! Anyone ever played Cobra Triangle? 🤯

[@SuperJumpReviews]

I think the hardest game I played on the nes was Bart vs the space mutants🤦‍♂️that game gave me nightmares

[@AegisKHAOS]

The archbishop fight didn't feel THAT bad, and I happen to be an average at best gamer. I managed to rely mostly on dodging and got through the first phase after a while. The second form was also fine once I fought its 'butt', since fighting that part is virtually the same as fighting the first phase. I personally find certain mini bosses and later bosses like the green monster to be more frustrating. As far as the health nerfs go, that barely did anything to the boss fights, if at all. The real notable change was adding hyper armor to three bar fable arts, and summons being tough enough to at least get through the first phase better. Waiting for the patch to make rising dodge the default ability as opposed to an unlockable skill. Also, thanks to a comment I read, one of the things that did help regarding the perfect guard is to actually remember it is a GUARD and not a parry. In other words, hold the button down longer as opposed to tapping it. I wondered why I managed getting those fluke perfect guards despite thinking I pressed the button a little early, and in all of those times I held the button down to block. Still requires timing, and enemies with fast combos still trouble me, but I got them a tad more often as a result of learning this.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Yeah you’re right about holding down the guard. I was doing that the whole time but subconsciously not realizing I was holding it. I guess I was just in the zone. Then there were times when I would just tap the guard and would get destroyed haha. Then I realized I had to hold it down

[@civilwarfare101]

I don't play Soulslike, roguelikes, and rougelites for this reason. I am okay at best at games but me dying over and over a lot of the time might lead to potential frustration unless they are like platformers or something but even then limited continues can screw it too.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

I totally get it. Games are supposed to be fun, not frustrating. You know what I miss? I miss the days of gaming where I didn't need to go on youtube and look up a strategy guide to figure out how to beat a particular level/boss😂The snes days were the best. That's when I just played games for fun even if I was playing the same level over and over haha.

[@civilwarfare101]

@@SuperJumpReviews Being a kid in general was just an easier time. No need to beat games all the time and you just play for fun lol.

[@dirac_dydx1830]

That's understandable. These games require an abnormal amount of patience. And there's nothing wrong with not having that.

[@imranakhtarsyed798]

Couldn't agree more. To me, Souls like and roguelikes are misery porn.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

@@imranakhtarsyed798 😂😂😂

[@geoffroydelmotte1141]

Hey there, I enjoyed this video and the vicarious experience of playing Lies of P. I suck at this game and I could never beat it. I'd rather go back and play Sekiro. I did get Lords of the Fallen, which I am enjoying immensely. Did you try it?

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Thanks for watching😊to be honest, this is actually the first time I've heard of Lords of Fallen.

[@kurisusama6695]

I beat this game and went to play Sekiro and legit every boss has me fighting for my life in Sekiro 😭

[@Ghostf4cekilll4]

That’s the first time I seen someone say Sekiro is easier than lies of P. It’s next on my list. But I am breezing through lies of P. Hoping laxasia gives me a run for my money. Because so far it’s been pretty tame for me

[@blinkachu5275]

Honestly I didn't think Arch Bishop was that hard. His first phase if you just learn the timings of his attacks he's incredibly predictable with parrying his attacks. And second phase, just face his "butt" (the first phase side). Because he mainly does the same attacks with slight alterations. That being said: yes, you HAVE to learn to perfect parry if you want to have a good time with the game. If you don't, it's going to be a struggle. My first playthrough I used Spectres and while I'm no elitist and would say my run is "invalid" because I used summons (as I believe anything that's in the game by default counts), I am now replaying for a bigger challenge without Spectres and it's surprising how much faster you learn without having a Spectre take all the aggro. I genuinely recommend not using them, as it means the boss is solely focused on you and means you have a better chance at learning their attacks. My most difficult boss was the Puppet Devouring Swamp Monster, on my first playthrough I genuinely had to quit for a while to just refresh my mind and go in with a different strategy. Now on my second playthrough I beat him 7th try on my own, with most attempts having me well within the second phase doing well. Game of the Year from me. It'll not earn it sadly because too many bozos will vote for Spider-Man 2 (which isn't a bad game by any stretch but context matters imo... Neowiz their FIRST outing as a Souls-like with this much quality, to the level of FromSoftware, compared to a sequel to a game with huge funding behind it that's mostly the same of what we already got)

[@SuperJumpReviews]

I'm was surprised they announced a sequel so soon but I guess the game sold really well😊Glad to see good games get the recognition they deserve. Curious to see what they'll do for the sequel.

[@samuelllakaj5439]

Graphics/UI look like budget Dark Souls.

[@brentontariocanada7935]

This is my game of the year! Love this game glad DLC and a squeal are coming. Great video

[@SuperJumpReviews]

What was your thought on the Archbishop fight?

[@sevenkdavis7212]

I have this game for the PS4 and doesn't run that bad. I ain't gonna lie, I almost gave up but I didn't, of course build up health and attack power, also keep in mind of stamina for faster movement, weight to hold better weapons, it's plenty to ponder about. I'm still processing the game.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

What boss is giving you the most trouble?

[@sevenkdavis7212]

The very first boss at the beginning of the game, but then I realized that it was cause of being slightly heavy. The recent troublesome I had was the King's Flame Fuoco, I beat him though, took a few tries. who knows what awaits me next..lol

[@sevenkdavis7212]

And by the way, u don't suck, just gotta keep pushing, u playing the most fantastic titles.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Thanks man👍

[@jonice3216]

when sitting at toilet. as far as I know. you are the best player in the world.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

🤣🤣thanks Jon. That made my day. I’m the number 1 toilet gamer🤣

[@damhatrebloc]

king of puppet pre nerf made me ALMOST quit the damn game. i already was trrash af and that boss was aB1tch till they nerfed him THE DAY AFTER i beat em after just dying n trying for 3 hours Lol. I died to some bosses so much i learned how to 100 percent perfect parry and dodge punish almost every attack

[@tdognschooch]

You we're baited by the summons! I swear they put these in these games to "make things easier" but I can tell you, they hamper your learning process and make reliably understanding and predicting boss attacks nearly impossible. If you summon, you will likely hit a wall later in the game because you aren't truly learning the bosses, you're just learning to take advantage of opportunistic moments usually created by the extra damage or distractions of your summon. If you want the "enjoyment" that the fans of these type of games crave and that the game is designed for, you should stop summoning (although, some people just don't have that skill). The secret sauce that good souls-likes and even the masters at FROMSOFT know all too well is that very difficult but fair boss fights with a high skill ceiling lead to tremendous satisfaction when mastered, that you can't get from other video games. Personally I struggle with this game more that almost any other souls like I've played. There were times of frustration, but nothing compares to being able to walk in to a boss fight like Archbishop/King of Puppets/Laxasia/Manus/Nameless Puppet who used to wipe the floor with my ass, only to turn the tables and make them look like a bitch..........soooooooooooooooo addictive!!!!!

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Dude, I totally agree with you on this one. Summons are good but like you said it really does hamper the learning process. I don't think I truly started to appreciate the game until I defeated the archbishop. Out of all the bosses I killed up to that point, the archbishop was the most satisfying. Mainly because he was the one that wiped the floor with me the hardest up until that point.

[@JKSmith-qs2ii]

Not every game is for everyone is what I always say. Games don't owe you anything (like easy modes etc...) even if you paid for them, they are a luxury anyway. I never let a game win over me personally, perseverance is almost always rewarded in video games and giving up just is not my style. Also, it's not based on the Disney film, it's based on "Le Avventure di Pinocchio", the original source.

[@PouresMaggie]

This is my GOTY and actually found its way up there on my top 5 games. Never played soulsbornes before, didn't find the game unfair in any way and I know it's always up to me. The game remained absolutely fun to play in all my 3 playthroughs back to back, taking a break before going for NG4 where apparently damage from enemies really ramps up, looking forward to it.... ;)

[@SuperJumpReviews]

I'm glad a brand new IP is getting the recognition it deserves. For too often these new IPs get lost in the shuffle of all the sequels.

[@mvhess]

I'm confused by this script. You throw in MegaMan and TLoU references without any elaboration. You say, don't get me started on the Dodge mechanic...Why? You mention a point where you almost rage quit but don'r tell the story of why.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Megaman because the legion arm reminds me of the mega buster. TLoU because you fight "zombies" like monsters. rage quit because of the archbishop fight

[@billyskittles1036]

Or maybe, just maybe, Lies of P missed the mark on what makes a Souls game work, kind of missed what the formula is supposed to be all about and sets the player up to fail due to poor mechanics. Lies of P reminds me of that really smart person who has zero common sense. The game has so much pitential and the devs are incredibly talented, but they had no idea what they wanted to do in this game. When it works, Lies of P works. When it fails because of piss-poor decisions by the devs, then it fails hard.

[@SuperJumpReviews]

What didn’t you like about this game?

[@ripdito]

ill wager you went technique or balance and were not min maxing your level

[@sclassmuzik]

GOTY though fs

[@SuperJumpReviews]

👍

[@liamwynne566]

Y

[@BALTDGuitar]

Arch bishop took me 2 tries. Parry really is not that hard once you know enemy movesets and that coming from someone who never played Sekiro and i never parry in souls games

[@SuperJumpReviews]

Well done!