life changing quadratic formula

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Dr Peyam

Dr Peyam

3 жыл бұрын

There are different ways of solving a quadratic equation, such as by factoring, completing the square, or using the algebra 2 quadratic formula. But after watching this video, you will never use the quadratic formula ever again!
This method is pioneered by Prof. Po-Shen Loh at Carnegie Mellon University and has been invented by the Babylonians, but somehow forgotten with time. Enjoy this wonderful adventure into the wonders of mathematics.
Po-Shen Loh's webpage: www.math.cmu.edu/~ploh/cmu.shtml
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@madomation7984
@madomation7984 Жыл бұрын
During a math class, I accidently derived this method from scratch, I thought that this is a new method that no one knew, then realised this is the derivation of the quadratic formula that we were just not taught.
@soumyadwipmondal2222
@soumyadwipmondal2222 Жыл бұрын
Same bro!
@aparnarai3708
@aparnarai3708 Жыл бұрын
@@epc0003 it's quite possible Sometimes you just don't wanna go with the said method and try your best to find another way to achieve the answer One does not need to be Po- Shen Lo to come up with this
@vanshkhatri8233
@vanshkhatri8233 Жыл бұрын
I also derived the formula during my class and showed to my teacher but he said " the book does not say so and I'll deduct your marks if u use the".... nvm I am so happy now that I was correct
@pradness
@pradness Жыл бұрын
@@epc0003 fr, it's really hard to derive this method from scratch as a student, how would someone come up with taking the midpoint of roots then using it as being equidistant from roots and calculating that distance to calculate roots, I always wondered why addition of roots and multiplication of roots was so easy compared to the quadratic formula but I would never imagine myself deriving this
@e_pi_i_is_-1
@e_pi_i_is_-1 Жыл бұрын
@@vanshkhatri8233 lmao, this actually happened with me.
@mimithehotdog7836
@mimithehotdog7836 3 жыл бұрын
“Modern Problems Require Ancient Methods”
@edgardojaviercanu4740
@edgardojaviercanu4740 3 жыл бұрын
a wonderful concept.
@rahulrathod6770
@rahulrathod6770 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right
@hozesty
@hozesty 3 жыл бұрын
E C 100%
@jewzetto9492
@jewzetto9492 3 жыл бұрын
Ironic but sometimes true
@trubobu
@trubobu 3 жыл бұрын
Haha ancient chisel go brrr
@ac281201
@ac281201 3 жыл бұрын
When you simplify all the steps taken, it turns out that the _u_ is actually equal to √∆/2a, so this is quadratic formula but in multiple steps instead of single equation.
3 жыл бұрын
I just came to the same conclusion. This method basically derives the quadratic formula from "graphical" solution. Which I think, is actually quite educational.
@leonardokeller5254
@leonardokeller5254 3 жыл бұрын
My mathteacher used this “method”, well it’s actually common sense if you think it through, to explain us the abc formula
@johnspence8141
@johnspence8141 3 жыл бұрын
Yes of course. It’s not going to miraculously break away. But it is definitely an easier way to conceptualize the process. Most students just memorize the quadratic function instead of deriving it. Whereas this method fits nicely into the same method applied to whole number roots. Every student I’ve taught who just memorized formulas deprived themselves of seeing all the connections in math and as a result never become really good at math.
@mathsman5219
@mathsman5219 3 жыл бұрын
Perspective changed
@johnholmes912
@johnholmes912 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnspence8141 isn't the easiest way to just complete the square?
@angelicbeast
@angelicbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Peyam you kept me interested in math! You were my gsi for math 54 back at Berkeley. Since then I didn't continue past abstract algebra but I still love math and I love this channel!
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooooh I remember you!!! Hope all is well 😁
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 3 жыл бұрын
Ah!
@bryantrandolph4693
@bryantrandolph4693 3 жыл бұрын
My math teacher is here too
@amitavadass
@amitavadass 3 жыл бұрын
My inspiration is here too!!!!
@spandanbarve1066
@spandanbarve1066 3 жыл бұрын
Hii
@konradkos1981
@konradkos1981 3 жыл бұрын
Legend
@TheRealThe
@TheRealThe 3 жыл бұрын
L e g e n d
@itsankur8745
@itsankur8745 3 жыл бұрын
Its all fun and games until the roots are imaginary.
@nexlord2036
@nexlord2036 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Amish0123
@Amish0123 3 жыл бұрын
do watch the video till end..he took that too!
@akul2986
@akul2986 3 жыл бұрын
@Guitarzen oh no😭
@dororthyruth3045
@dororthyruth3045 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you are solving real problems
@pafauk361
@pafauk361 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you watch the video before you comment? Complex numbers change nothing
@chriswasabii
@chriswasabii 3 жыл бұрын
WOOOOOWWW!! My highschool teacher taught me a slightly different variant of this method that was harder to understand back then. This video is very clear, very useful and well done. Great job!
@tomn.9987
@tomn.9987 3 жыл бұрын
I find the quadratic formula in it's common version more practical. It's easy to remember and use.
@shabbarvejlani
@shabbarvejlani 3 жыл бұрын
Can relate the formula for roots more intuitively now. MID = -b/2a U= sqrt(b^2 - 4ac)/2a X1 = MID + U X2 = MID - U Thanks for sharing this.
@yeet6074
@yeet6074 Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for compiling this!!
@pinkex6119
@pinkex6119 17 күн бұрын
thanks for comenting us ew
@mullaert
@mullaert 3 жыл бұрын
Called the pq-formula. Used for students in German school who don’t want to use the quadric formula. The approach to explain the method is nicely done in this video. I really liked it.
@NotBroihon
@NotBroihon 2 жыл бұрын
Ja man pq Formel Gang amk
@mxchronos3642
@mxchronos3642 Жыл бұрын
@@NotBroihon vallah☝🏻
@livaja27
@livaja27 8 ай бұрын
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@bigbro5089
@bigbro5089 3 жыл бұрын
All things aside, Dr.Peyam seems to be so good of heart. He seems to be a sweet,simple and composed person 💙.... People like him change the bad inside of a person and fill them with positivity 😎💞
@sohilkumar1218
@sohilkumar1218 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly 😀
@HypnosisBear
@HypnosisBear Жыл бұрын
What?
@subhojitchatterjee9920
@subhojitchatterjee9920 3 жыл бұрын
Teacher : This is the simplest method. Middle term factor : "I don't even exist"
@adityagarg9988
@adityagarg9988 3 жыл бұрын
Westerners be like: that's cheating😭😭
@adityagarg9988
@adityagarg9988 3 жыл бұрын
x^2 - 9 = 0 : idk😂😂
@LLT_MATHEMATICAL_FLUID
@LLT_MATHEMATICAL_FLUID 3 жыл бұрын
The name of the formula is middle term factor, so by its name you have to factories the middle term coefficient of the given equation by the help of initial and terminal terms. Here( -6) is the middle term coefficient and -6 = (-4)+(-2) . ( where { -4}×{ -2}= 8). So the Answer will be (x-4) (x-2).
@subhojitchatterjee9920
@subhojitchatterjee9920 3 жыл бұрын
@@LLT_MATHEMATICAL_FLUID kehna kya chahte ho??
@HarshHit
@HarshHit 3 жыл бұрын
@@adityagarg9988 x=+-3
@PrinceZuko
@PrinceZuko 3 жыл бұрын
If every teacher in Austria's art school back then was as cheerful as you, the world might potentially be a better place.
@TheChaosBeat
@TheChaosBeat 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@accidentallyaj5138
@accidentallyaj5138 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very specific joke, i am surprised people got this
@obyvatel
@obyvatel 3 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of being cheerfully refused admission?
@brittonporter5063
@brittonporter5063 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a Hitler joke? Just want to make sure I’m right
@accidentallyaj5138
@accidentallyaj5138 3 жыл бұрын
@@brittonporter5063 yes
@theTHwa3tes11
@theTHwa3tes11 3 жыл бұрын
Math Teacher: You weren't supposed to do that!
@lxna5889
@lxna5889 3 жыл бұрын
Grrrrr
@zaheerkhan9236
@zaheerkhan9236 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine someone considering this a scientific breakthrough and u applied it on high-school maths on a daily basis
@kumnalkhati2243
@kumnalkhati2243 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@whisper7879
@whisper7879 3 жыл бұрын
True😂
@gouharmaquboolnitp
@gouharmaquboolnitp 3 жыл бұрын
You are a unacademian?
@gouharmaquboolnitp
@gouharmaquboolnitp 3 жыл бұрын
Ashwani Tyagi's students right?
@x0cx102
@x0cx102 3 жыл бұрын
search up po shen loh. He does a lot more real mathematics research (in graph theory and combinatorics) as a professor at carnegie mellon, as well as coach the usa IMO team. this is hardly a breakthrough or a new method in any means. not sure why he's calling it that.
@sssilky3317
@sssilky3317 2 жыл бұрын
I just started my new job as a math tutor and I'm going to try using this to help my students better understand quadratics, Thank you Dr. Peyam
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@gabrielasr9744
@gabrielasr9744 3 жыл бұрын
This guy just seems so happy teaching ❤️ This can really change a lecture for the better
@RorychattInc
@RorychattInc 3 жыл бұрын
As russians we were taught this in like 5th grade. We call this формула Виета (Vieta's formulas), as they exist not only for quadratic equations UPD: yes, you can use them for cubic too
@mathadventuress
@mathadventuress 3 жыл бұрын
oh so you can use them for cubic?
@aryadebchatterjee5028
@aryadebchatterjee5028 3 жыл бұрын
@@mathadventuress yupp
@aryadebchatterjee5028
@aryadebchatterjee5028 3 жыл бұрын
@@mathadventuress The formula states that for any equation of degree N which has roots A_i where i={1,2,3...} the sum of the roots is the coefficient of the term which has N-1 as power divided by the coefficient of the term which has Nth power TIMES -1... and just like this when the roots are taken two at a time and multiplied and then added like a series (to clear things up e.g (A1*A2)+(A2*A3)+(A3*A4)+....+(A_N-1 *A_N) )IS JUST THE THIRD COEFFICIENT divided by the the first one and and like so on I would suggest you to look it up on some good book like Hall and knight
@hybmnzz2658
@hybmnzz2658 3 жыл бұрын
Vietas formulas should be a must learn for polynomials of any degree. Sad it is not taught to many before university (not even a glimpse).
@DRMath
@DRMath 3 жыл бұрын
I learned it in 6th grade, and my teacher use to say if you want to learn math or science learn from Russian and one of my professor (one of the smartest person i met in my life yet)here is US proved it.
@sonalikakade3484
@sonalikakade3484 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, we learnt this method in school!!
@whatdoiputhere5089
@whatdoiputhere5089 3 жыл бұрын
Wahi lmao
@blueb0y980
@blueb0y980 3 жыл бұрын
Indians are faster than this 😅
@blueb0y980
@blueb0y980 3 жыл бұрын
@shubh Yes, You are right he is better than that of tiktok jokers
@avishek438
@avishek438 3 жыл бұрын
He is not “dude”.. learn some manners..
@bait5257
@bait5257 3 жыл бұрын
@@avishek438 that's true too. Dude is little disrespecting
@faysal...
@faysal... Жыл бұрын
1 year on and Dr.Peyam is still giving hearts
@leickrobinson5186
@leickrobinson5186 3 жыл бұрын
If **Dr. Peyam** says that he’s the nicest guy he ever met, that’s really saying something!!!
@KokeBeast23
@KokeBeast23 3 жыл бұрын
Truly!
@abderzakchebbi1339
@abderzakchebbi1339 3 жыл бұрын
yes, because probably the professor taught him something new.
@aryamannsrivastava7279
@aryamannsrivastava7279 3 жыл бұрын
Gay??
@abderzakchebbi1339
@abderzakchebbi1339 3 жыл бұрын
@@aryamannsrivastava7279 no!...we cnnot juge like every nice person is gay thats very wrong...instead in general poeple with a higher education like him are nice bc their are not in the level of juck kids who are looking for trouble or bulliying instead of mind themselves.
@aryamannsrivastava7279
@aryamannsrivastava7279 3 жыл бұрын
@@abderzakchebbi1339 I am sorry for my words .actually I myself found sir to be very useful and informative
@remopellegrino8961
@remopellegrino8961 3 жыл бұрын
If every math teacher was as cheerful as you, everyone would understand math!
@tmjcbs
@tmjcbs 3 жыл бұрын
Cheerfulness has very little influence on understanding math...
@remopellegrino8961
@remopellegrino8961 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmjcbs it makes your audience be more interested, hence they will be more focussed and they will learn a lot more
@teddylandefeld6380
@teddylandefeld6380 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t understand shit from this vid
@amigosdocarro4600
@amigosdocarro4600 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmjcbs No
@centralprocessingunit2564
@centralprocessingunit2564 3 жыл бұрын
@Nawfal. wns excuses. enthusiasm of the teacher doesnt matter. the actual content is more important. if enthusiasm has an effect on a student then thats just because that student is lazy and doesnt want to do the hard work part on their own.
@priyankaaggarwal1982
@priyankaaggarwal1982 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone gangsta here untill complex roots enters 😂
@souls5180
@souls5180 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no guess I have to change my name now 😅
@souls5180
@souls5180 3 жыл бұрын
@@MKD1101 pehle mera naam Gangster Sharma tha then i changed it .
@souls5180
@souls5180 3 жыл бұрын
@@MKD1101 please bhai , yeh mat karo .. ruk jao .
@anitakajala7799
@anitakajala7799 3 жыл бұрын
Please don't comment without having a prior knowledge of complex no.s
@priyankaaggarwal1982
@priyankaaggarwal1982 3 жыл бұрын
@@anitakajala7799 Expert in it bro mind your own work 😏
@owenbrowne9288
@owenbrowne9288 2 жыл бұрын
Props to my algebra teacher from 2 years ago for teaching us this method when it was first discovered
@sheikhk.s.sarian2594
@sheikhk.s.sarian2594 3 жыл бұрын
"Y'all already didn't know that?" - This comment was made by Asian Gang
@u.v.s.5583
@u.v.s.5583 3 жыл бұрын
It is also standard, I believe, in most of Eastern Europe.
@kartik5876
@kartik5876 3 жыл бұрын
This was so basic... I didn't know this method had a name. We were taught this before quadratic formula.
@bhabeshkumar8804
@bhabeshkumar8804 3 жыл бұрын
Being an asian indian I didn't know this method, although I know some different easy methods to solve this equation. Always happy to learn more.🥰
@elonmusk2157
@elonmusk2157 3 жыл бұрын
Meet any CAT or CGL aspirent of india
@AnuarLife
@AnuarLife 3 жыл бұрын
I m from Russia and we use this formula and name of this “ the theorem of Viet” (Теорема Виета)😂😂😂
@deltaman2283
@deltaman2283 3 жыл бұрын
You're an incredible maths teacher and a human. We need more people like you sir. You're so cheerful. You earned a subscriber here...keep uploading interesting mathematics stuffs here...love your content. I'm gonna use this method for quick solving in MCQs. Lot's of love and respect from the world. Thankyou very much for this valuable information.
@subwaymirdif
@subwaymirdif 3 жыл бұрын
It already changed my life in the first 30 seconds.
@robinsakofske9975
@robinsakofske9975 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE your enthusiasm!
@xy9439
@xy9439 3 жыл бұрын
I call this "completing the square" in a fancy way
@aditya2781
@aditya2781 3 жыл бұрын
🙂🙂🤣🤣
@RedRad1990
@RedRad1990 3 жыл бұрын
The equations at the beginning are called Vieta's formulas
@ruanlslima
@ruanlslima 3 жыл бұрын
I call it "Bhaskara formula with geometrical intuition" hahaha Completing the square is my go-to though
@richardfredlund3802
@richardfredlund3802 3 жыл бұрын
completing the square doesn't use symmetry in the same way. This is slightly different.
@LeoBrooks03
@LeoBrooks03 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is essentially finding a turning point and completing the square.
@augf6354
@augf6354 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a man this excited over teaching, congrats :D
@yatinnargotra2834
@yatinnargotra2834 3 жыл бұрын
I feel this method should be included in our books .
@pratyushpro9060
@pratyushpro9060 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou very much for such a awesome video. am going to use it from now onwards
@mattpyth5151
@mattpyth5151 3 жыл бұрын
Actually after watching Prof. Loh's video, I tried to solve one problem myself. I used an odd coeff in the middle term to have fraction solving and to my amazement, it works! Now, I am excited to teach this to my students! :)
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!!! :)
@GeoffCanyon
@GeoffCanyon 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this *is* the quadratic formula, just with a factored out.
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын
That is correct. In fact, he SAYS that if a isn't 1, you have to factor it out first. If you factor a quadratic using this method, and then using the quadratic formula, you find yourself doing all the same arithmetic. The difference is that if you are good at remembering sequences of operations, this will seem easier, while if you are better at remembering formulas, the quadratic formula will seem easier. They all break down to different rearrangements of the prototypical quadratic, ax^2 + bx + c = 0, to solve for x.
@valentinidk6101
@valentinidk6101 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao yea it is
@Austin1990
@Austin1990 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it will all be algebraically equivalent no matter what you do. This is just a different way of thinking about it. The equation becomes: for a=1, x=(-b)/2 ± √[ (b/2)^2 - c ] Honestly, this would be an easier way of evaluating the quantity underneath the root if b is divisible by 2. But, most importantly, it gives a better conceptual understanding which can save you if you forget the quadratic equation.
@dr.weirdbeard6054
@dr.weirdbeard6054 3 жыл бұрын
Thought so too!
@ricardofraser4243
@ricardofraser4243 3 жыл бұрын
when we complete the square its the same... the turning point -b/2a x-coordinate is the midpoint of the root ... the rest follows
@MadScientyst
@MadScientyst 2 жыл бұрын
In the old GCE Additional Mathematics course, a large part of this was taught as the Product/Sum-of-Roots Method to solve Quadratics. Typical notation usually used 'Alpha & Beta' terminology. The (+/-) extension makes an interesting addition to finding/testing the Roots too.
@kip741
@kip741 2 жыл бұрын
Still taught in my additional maths with roots of polynomials
@WontTrout
@WontTrout Жыл бұрын
Great video! Worth mentioning that this is really just the quadratic formula, from an understanding perspective rather than a "plug and play" perspective.
@davidseed2939
@davidseed2939 3 жыл бұрын
i was taught almost this method in 1965. rearrange the original equation as x² +2hx +d. then x= -h +/-√(h² - d)
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын
This is correct, but I'd like to point out that you would get the quadratic equation once you're rearranged the original equation to factor out the x^2 coefficient. So you end up doing exactly the same arithmetic either way, but the method you are showing splits it into two steps. What makes the quadratic equation nice is that once you have it memorized, it's just one step. So really it's a matter of whether you want to remember one equation, or a slightly simpler equation and another step. What I like about the method shown in the video is that you don't have to memorize anything, and even if you forget the exact process, it takes only a minute to go through the same derivation the describes.
@-ClerzZ-
@-ClerzZ- 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I was taught a formula as x^2 +2ab + b
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын
@@-ClerzZ- I'm pretty sure you weren't, because that would not have given you the correct answers. In fact, it doesn't even solve for x.
@sasoblazic
@sasoblazic 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. This video really does not add anything new to the solution of the famous equation. But how could it? Everything here is completely known for centuries.
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын
@@sasoblazic It gives students another option. The math is what it is. Whether you are plugging a, b, and c into the quadratic equation, or you're factoring by completing the square, or you're using this method, the actual arithmetic you are doing is identical. But different people remember things in different ways, so for someone who has no trouble remembering complicated equations, the quadratic equation may be the best way, while for people for whom remembering the steps in a process is easier, then this method or completing the square may be easier. You are right: this method that David Seed describes doesn't add anything to the mathematics, because just as what is described in the video is actually one derivation of the quadratic equation, and completing the squares is another, this is just preparing your polynomial a bit before crunching the coefficients through a simplified version of the quadratic equation. But for every student, ONE of these methods will click better in their mind. There are also cases, though, that are easier to do with one method than another. For example, if the x^2 coefficient is 1, David Seed's formula is slightly easier to use than the more general quadratic equation, and if your coefficients are all integers, completing the square or the method in the video may be easier to apply.
@ceres8494
@ceres8494 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone:Using this method Me: nEgaTiVe Beeeeeeee pLus oR mInuS tHe SqUaRe rOoT oF....
@ndakeren8673
@ndakeren8673 3 жыл бұрын
FFFFFFFFFFF
@Fakipo
@Fakipo 3 жыл бұрын
It also tells you if the roots are real or not. For me its a lot quicker to solve using that formula. The only problem is remembering it by heart.
@bonnieb7608
@bonnieb7608 3 жыл бұрын
Omg now I have that song stuck in my head again 🤦🤣
@ceres8494
@ceres8494 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fakipo join the cult kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2PIh418rp6ssM0
@ceres8494
@ceres8494 3 жыл бұрын
@@bonnieb7608 yes
@ayubjikani5401
@ayubjikani5401 3 жыл бұрын
I can summarise, If u²>0, Eq. Has two real roots. u²=0, Eq. Has only one real root. u²
@aayushtripathi3799
@aayushtripathi3799 3 жыл бұрын
I love your enthusiasm
@imnotarobot6927
@imnotarobot6927 3 жыл бұрын
Following along with this made me realize where the rule "If a polynomial has integer roots, they evenly divide the constant term of the polynomial" comes from because if you expand (x - x1)(x - x2)(x - x3)... the last/constant term will always be x1*x2*x3*... I was always just told, "if you want to guess integer roots, guess all the factors of the constant term" and never questioned it. yay, learning
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. This lets you guess the roots when they are integers. Which is fine for passing math tests, but doesn't come up so much in the real world.
@karlstephenevallo6543
@karlstephenevallo6543 3 жыл бұрын
Definitey I want a professor like him because he has that kind of amazing aura that relaxes the mind of students listening, he has that kind of smile that lets you chill with the process making it look easy and last thing is his voice its so mesmerizing that you may not know your subject relates to math. Last thing, the method you used is very easy to understand and way more beneficial to do irrational or the complex root without using that much of calculations. Thank you for discussing and here I am hitting that subscribe button and ringing that bell icon sir. God bless us all.
@caurixportal1332
@caurixportal1332 3 жыл бұрын
But in real life, and nature, the coefficients could be ANYTHING, not so nice and simple. You need a repettive method that works fir ever single situation. Does this one do it.?
@apodsilvaticus6489
@apodsilvaticus6489 Жыл бұрын
Learn this from my dad when I was 12. Very old and practical. Mostly for quadratic equations this is the master key to finish simple by head calculation.
@daco54
@daco54 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ,i did not know this method and it gave me more knowledge about quadratic equations.
@colinbrash
@colinbrash 3 жыл бұрын
This is cool, I’d never seen it before. Another way to think about it: you convert the polynomial to the form x^2 - 2bx + c, and then the quadratic formula reduces to just b +/- sqrt(b^2 - c)
@GG4EVA623
@GG4EVA623 3 жыл бұрын
Wait so do I use the one you suggested? Instead of quadratic equation
@interiorcrocodile4297
@interiorcrocodile4297 2 жыл бұрын
@@GG4EVA623 not always valid
@paradoxicallyexcellent5138
@paradoxicallyexcellent5138 2 жыл бұрын
This is my preferred method when doing physics and dealing with a bunch of physical constants. I find it quite clean.
@sillasaram9121
@sillasaram9121 Жыл бұрын
@@interiorcrocodile4297 When is it not valid? It is valid for all cases since new definition of "b" is now 1/2 of old b.
@muffin_____
@muffin_____ 3 жыл бұрын
Me looking at the title, "I bet this has something to do with viete's theorem" sure enough it does! Just learned about this in class this semester
@sanjayagarwal920
@sanjayagarwal920 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WORKING ! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
@VIJEAR
@VIJEAR 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. This is the first time I see this method of solving quadratic formula.
@mayaghazy391
@mayaghazy391 3 жыл бұрын
Love the fact that this got recommended to me when I’m about to have my exam in 2 weeks 😀
@shaikabdurrehmanh1506
@shaikabdurrehmanh1506 3 жыл бұрын
I too.
@martinj.montag.amritapuri8208
@martinj.montag.amritapuri8208 3 жыл бұрын
Careful, in exams it can be equally important that you're examiner recognises you go a "working" way to the solution. Then, if you make a mistake they may give you marks for the way to the solution. (Still, I agree it's a wonderful way, especially because it always goes with understanding of how the solution works.)
@KayOScode
@KayOScode 3 жыл бұрын
How did it go?
@mayaghazy391
@mayaghazy391 3 жыл бұрын
@@KayOScode it was extremely easy actually
@KayOScode
@KayOScode 3 жыл бұрын
@@mayaghazy391 I love it when theyre easy. Hoping my compilers midterm is easy this Wednesday lol
@arunkumarcs9191
@arunkumarcs9191 3 жыл бұрын
I thank KZbin algorithm for showing me this videos in my recommendation. And thank you sir.
@wannadieirl6155
@wannadieirl6155 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@HelloConure
@HelloConure 2 жыл бұрын
This is, in fact, putting a=1 in the long quadratic formula that everyone had learned. Interesting way of interpretation, involving mid-points, etc. Thanks.
@gurjindersingh8820
@gurjindersingh8820 3 жыл бұрын
Need a math and physics teacher as excited as you are
@matiassantacruz5487
@matiassantacruz5487 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he says “it’s a nightmare” 😂 5:18
@lxna5889
@lxna5889 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@srchillout4848
@srchillout4848 3 жыл бұрын
-b+-√b²-4ac/2a : am I a nightmare 😤
@7rgrov198
@7rgrov198 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought of it like: how can i factor the last coefficient and sum/subtract those terms together to make the second coefficient.
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын
That was how they taught us to factor quadratics first, but I kept asking, "but what if the factors aren't nice, round numbers", to which I was told, "don't worry, we'll get to that", and that turned out to be the quadratic equation, which always works. I think they only made us learn to figure out pairs that multiplied to b and added to c, was so that we would learn to recognize the easy cases, and avoid using the full formula.
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын
That was how they taught us to factor quadratics first, but I kept asking, "but what if the factors aren't nice, round numbers", to which I was told, "don't worry, we'll get to that", and that turned out to be the quadratic equation, which always works. I think they only made us learn to figure out pairs that multiplied to b and added to c, was so that we would learn to recognize the easy cases, and avoid using the full formula.
@7rgrov198
@7rgrov198 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrightBlueJim sure, but for almost all cases that you are likely to encounter, the coefficients arent fractions
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын
@@7rgrov198 That may be the case when you're taking an algebra test in high school, but when you are solving for the poles in an electrical circuit, the coefficients come from some combination of multiple electric component values, the coefiicients are almost never integers. This is just one example. Every place I've seen where I've actually had to solve a real world problem (as opposed to a problem in a textbook), I've had non-integer coefficients to deal with. I've come to realize that it's far easier to just plug the numbers into the quadratic formula, than to use one of these "shortcuts".
@janvisagie231
@janvisagie231 2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that you explicitly wrote the implicit explanation for why Po-Shen Loh's method (yeah I just watched his vid beforehand) works. However I have one question, shouldn't this equation be equally valid if you use (x+x1)(X+x2) instead of (x-x1)(X-x2)...that way you won't have to keep changing the sign of the second term in the original equation e.g. in the equation at 2:08 the midpoint will be -3 instead of 3. I know you will have to change the sign of x1 and x2 to eventually get the roots though when using the form (x+x1)(X+x2), which is likely why you are using the form (x-x1)(X-x2).
@coldlogiccrusader365
@coldlogiccrusader365 Жыл бұрын
TY, I cam to the same conclusion how can the sum of the roots be < 0 yet they are both positive.
@edu-meter574
@edu-meter574 3 жыл бұрын
Great work.. Saw that today. Thank you😍
@rishabhasthana1936
@rishabhasthana1936 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! Very insightful, makes me want to play with maths with a different perspective....wow truly eye opening
@jabunapg1387
@jabunapg1387 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody learns this formula in school in Germany. It's called Vieta's Formula or p-q-Formula (the general solution formula).
@pizzamidhead2183
@pizzamidhead2183 3 жыл бұрын
also in Italy, it is considered the basis of second degree equations, you learn in the first grade
@stepanosipenko5032
@stepanosipenko5032 3 жыл бұрын
Also in Russia, it is one of the basic formulas
@cyto3338
@cyto3338 3 жыл бұрын
Never studied it as a part of curriculum in India
@yagnapatel3912
@yagnapatel3912 3 жыл бұрын
@@pizzamidhead2183 I knew Italians were smart, but how do you teach quadratics to 6 year olds. That’s crazy
@alenlivai
@alenlivai 3 жыл бұрын
@@yagnapatel3912 Probably first-grade high school students.
@isi2973
@isi2973 3 жыл бұрын
That honestly reminds me alot of the p-q-Formular wivh is a simplified version of the quadratic formula.
@anshik.k.t
@anshik.k.t 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized this is quadratic equation but ofc can't deny it is in more simpler form here. Your voice is so good as teacher just subscribed.
@goofygoober6211
@goofygoober6211 3 жыл бұрын
im in Calculus BC in my senior year of high school in the United States and I've never been taught this!! so cool
@hridoysarkar050
@hridoysarkar050 3 жыл бұрын
Legend: Uses the quadratic formula. Ultra Legend: Uses this method. Me: I use my calculator.
@amitavadass
@amitavadass 3 жыл бұрын
West Bengal naki Bangladesh???? INDIA te to calculator allow kore na wbjee &jee main etc te!
@DANTE-kv7mv
@DANTE-kv7mv 3 жыл бұрын
@@amitavadass maybe he's in a college
@amitavadass
@amitavadass 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANTE-kv7mv hoyto!
@labib1782
@labib1782 3 жыл бұрын
@@amitavadass Bangladesh eo korena dada
@sumonsohailbnc2059
@sumonsohailbnc2059 3 жыл бұрын
@@amitavadass jee 2021 or 2022
@ThePiMan0903
@ThePiMan0903 Жыл бұрын
Nice video sir! Thanks for this one.
@gbeziuk
@gbeziuk 3 жыл бұрын
It's Vieta formula's extension. They taught it in schools in USSR.
@francescopiccolo2000
@francescopiccolo2000 3 жыл бұрын
Minchia in Russia siete fortissimi
@shorge37
@shorge37 3 жыл бұрын
In russia too
@infinixgaming1791
@infinixgaming1791 3 жыл бұрын
well in india too.. we are taught vieta formula.. x^2 - (sum of roots) x + (product of roots)
@heyman9078
@heyman9078 3 жыл бұрын
@@infinixgaming1791 it's a bit different. i learned that 3 years ago, but the loh's method use de discriminant for quadratic equations in a ''indirect'' form the ∆=b^2-4ac is equal to u. since there are many equations that cannot use x^2-sum+product.
@mimzim7141
@mimzim7141 3 жыл бұрын
Give 20 second degree equations with random coefficients to a person and let him solve 10 with usual quadratic and 10 with this method and see which is faster.
@hungryplate400
@hungryplate400 3 жыл бұрын
@Left and Right Troll For a Computer, the quadratic formula is better, because, it doesn't have to "think", rather input values in a pre defined formula
@Tyns19
@Tyns19 3 жыл бұрын
work the method shown in the video symbolically and you will find that it reduces to the usual quadratic formula. The method shown is only another way to derive the conventional quadratic formula that we are all familiar with. just start with: x^2+bx+c=0, and follow steps in the video.
@adrien8572
@adrien8572 3 жыл бұрын
@Left and Right Troll Yeah like when i was in high school we had the right to use a calculator and we had a program calculating the solutions instantly...
@mimzim7141
@mimzim7141 3 жыл бұрын
i understand it is equivalent to the usual formula. And if you think of it has to be since it gives the correct solutions. Now i tried a few times and it is not as slow as i first thought, with some practice it could become a viable computational option. Another test to do is wether that method increases or decreases your percentage of calculation mistakes.
@rayray6548
@rayray6548 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrien8572 so your calculator got the school degree, not you. son..
@MiroslawHorbal
@MiroslawHorbal 3 жыл бұрын
Only took me 32 years of my life to stop using the quadratic formula. TY. I know what I'll be teaching my kids when they are studying quadratics in school!
@chocolateangel8743
@chocolateangel8743 3 жыл бұрын
If they're more visual math learners, like me, they might prefer to Complete The Square, using an area model (the same thing).
@d6853
@d6853 3 жыл бұрын
No, don’t do that. They are taught the formula for a reason, most questions will require the formula, you get marks for working, if you do that you will confuse them and they will lose marks
@yili3339
@yili3339 3 жыл бұрын
gosh! you are really good at make things complex. this is a question can be solved in less than 2 second.
@ichigo8631
@ichigo8631 2 жыл бұрын
Im fascinated im going to try that out and learn it
@vasilisgrekas4225
@vasilisgrekas4225 3 жыл бұрын
They have literally told us in school but now I understand where it comes from
@riddhimanbanerjee6556
@riddhimanbanerjee6556 3 жыл бұрын
When we think, we know it all, still there's so much to discover in maths! Great method!!
@josephperera1318
@josephperera1318 10 ай бұрын
this has actually changed my life ♥
@stephanweaver1960
@stephanweaver1960 3 жыл бұрын
So nice to get back to college math in a fresh way!!!
@alakas706
@alakas706 3 жыл бұрын
This is just the quadratic formula done as an algorithm. Very nice
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 3 жыл бұрын
yup more exactly the variation of the quadratic used in Germany and India. The Pq-formula. (way less of a headache than the American formula and all you really do is divide by a)
@alakas706
@alakas706 3 жыл бұрын
@@Metalhammer1993 Yeah, can belive so. remaber when I first learned the formula, was a headice to memorice
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 3 жыл бұрын
@@alakas706 the american one really is a monster. the PQ one is a bit simpler
@m.m.2341
@m.m.2341 3 жыл бұрын
My God, the rest of the world uses the ABC formula? I hate that monster.
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 3 жыл бұрын
@@m.m.2341 yup. I at least only know Germany and India
@i_am_me1238
@i_am_me1238 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna lie, his accent made me watch the the whole video! 😐
@september1683
@september1683 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, he really has an accent? I didn't notice that! :-)
@PauloRicardo-fc4li
@PauloRicardo-fc4li 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! Promised and delivered! Awesome to discover a nice, new and useful Idea like this one!
@lakshmikalyanaraman3645
@lakshmikalyanaraman3645 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing concept!!
@neyrenbharali2489
@neyrenbharali2489 3 жыл бұрын
Awesooooooooomeeeeeee Why did someone not taught me this in my childhoood.
@Icenri
@Icenri 3 жыл бұрын
It's so smart! Why is it not taught everywhere?!
@fullfungo
@fullfungo 3 жыл бұрын
Because it actually IS taught. It is based on completing the square, which is a method used in deriving the standard quadratic formula. If you recall its derivation, you can clearly see how they are identical.
@Icenri
@Icenri 3 жыл бұрын
@@fullfungo Yes, I know that this is how the Greeks worked it out as well, but schools just sit down you in front of the equation.
@leif1075
@leif1075 3 жыл бұрын
@@fullfungo then why is he touting it's different if it's the same?
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 3 жыл бұрын
@@Icenri They do? I don't recall that ever happening for me. Maybe it's just some places where it's taught worse?
@fullfungo
@fullfungo 3 жыл бұрын
@@leif1075 Having different methods to obtain the same result may seem pointless. However, some of them may be more intuitive for a human, while others are more efficient for a computer. There are of course other reasons, but these two are usually the ones that help us make the choice when presented with one.
@Adnan.khan..
@Adnan.khan.. 3 жыл бұрын
Cool sir. You taught finding complex roots in very simple manner.👏👏👏
@nyxarisa
@nyxarisa Жыл бұрын
i very recently noticed it’s a lot like complete the square method but shorter and simpler. it’s really interesting
@iSustainnn
@iSustainnn 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my, i wish i learned this when i was on 9th grade. Thank you Dr. Peyam!
@kimutaiboit8516
@kimutaiboit8516 3 жыл бұрын
‘The Good Doctor ‘ Peyem
@mrmexicano64
@mrmexicano64 3 жыл бұрын
I find The logic to be pretty similar to Mohr's circle
@gonta2gonta195
@gonta2gonta195 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Very nice . I like this point of view. Really interesting!!!
@eckhardtdom
@eckhardtdom 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually useful. Thank you! 8)
@carterwoodson8818
@carterwoodson8818 3 жыл бұрын
This is basically depressing a polynomial no? This is related to an important step in solving the general cubic equation.
@easymathematik
@easymathematik 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is.
@LKRaider
@LKRaider 3 жыл бұрын
That’s harsh, we should be nice to the polynomial to help it overcome its depressive roots
@easymathematik
@easymathematik 3 жыл бұрын
Depressing a quadratic is equivalent to "completing the square".
@pedramkeshavarz6212
@pedramkeshavarz6212 3 жыл бұрын
It is in Iran's education system and we are taught in h_school this kinda stuff for our big test called "konkor".
@ballybunion9
@ballybunion9 3 жыл бұрын
It's been decades since I had to factor a quadratic equation but I still know that one is super-easy.
@palaksharma493
@palaksharma493 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@cjmq1970
@cjmq1970 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a half century, first time in my freaking life I see this method, I was always taught to “use your instincts’ basically instead of the midpoint and the minus sign before the second term of the equation. Well, I thunk that after 25 years of obtaining my university degree, my certified professional title and 27 years of labor experience (yes, I started working on my career two years prior to license and degree), it’s never too late to learn something.
@788home
@788home 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this easily understood and accessible method of determining the roots or a quadratic. I always disliked memorizing something if I couldn't derive it and if, instead of using numerical coefficients, I use this method on ax^2 +bx +c = 0 the "Quadratic Equation" I had to memorize just falls out. (As it should!) Thank you.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Numidium_
@Numidium_ 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t click for this. I just lost my last brain cell.
@danielsarkar1565
@danielsarkar1565 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video just loved it.
@bg7987
@bg7987 3 жыл бұрын
complex one was very helpful. Thanks!!!
@samonterolanjayp.8229
@samonterolanjayp.8229 3 жыл бұрын
I thought we just have to find pair of factors of the c, and if that pair's sum is the value of the b, then those are roots (in ax²+bx+c). Isn't this simplified factor method easier than the video? We can even calculate using this mentally on our 7th
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
In general if the roots are irrational, then no
@brucesing2089
@brucesing2089 3 жыл бұрын
Rolan Samonte this kind of vidoes could save you much time looking for the correct answers
@fuiijutsushikifuujin9413
@fuiijutsushikifuujin9413 3 жыл бұрын
For irrational roots, it's hard, it may take time.. It's possible but it ain't easy.
@Juliasn68
@Juliasn68 3 жыл бұрын
I was acctually able to find a bit more primitive method of this by myself when I was 15 yrs. but this method is way more helpful, because I can find x_1 and x_2 even if they're surds.
@aavalos163
@aavalos163 3 жыл бұрын
It was fun to watch!
@Khan_Ustad
@Khan_Ustad 3 жыл бұрын
My life changed after watching this video, now I drive a lambo and live in a castle. Thanx dude.
@theengineeringstudent2678
@theengineeringstudent2678 3 жыл бұрын
If everyone spoke English as you do, life would be better.
@m.a.y.u.k.h
@m.a.y.u.k.h 3 жыл бұрын
Correct
@DouglasHPlumb
@DouglasHPlumb 3 жыл бұрын
I like his enthusiasm, he is very good at this, but Yikes.
@Manu-Alpha
@Manu-Alpha 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@imposteristixx6877
@imposteristixx6877 3 жыл бұрын
The way he talks and moves is adorable
@AAAAAA-gj2di
@AAAAAA-gj2di 3 жыл бұрын
and the way he derives and then uses the discriminant formula in every quadratic equation
@Majestic469
@Majestic469 3 жыл бұрын
@@AAAAAA-gj2di lol
@rajakumari3716
@rajakumari3716 3 жыл бұрын
@@deelakayahaladeniya4472 ur gay
@gibbogle
@gibbogle 3 жыл бұрын
Not to me.
@miak5929
@miak5929 3 жыл бұрын
Its hay
@dmitrychirkov9519
@dmitrychirkov9519 2 жыл бұрын
Nice method. Thank you very much!
@devankitshukla1370
@devankitshukla1370 3 жыл бұрын
This method is derived from Sridhar Acharya formula sum of roots -b/a and product of root is c/a in quadratic ax²+bx+c
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the other way around, your formula follows from this method
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