Is John Haack Stronger Than Peak Ed Coan

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[@ralphM1114]

It's scientifically proven that people who bitch about the narrator's voice on a powerlifting channel can't even deadlift 315.

[@matisvdw]

pounds or kgs?

[@CM-ky3ow]

@@matisvdw milligrams

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@@matisvdw pounds; if you can deadlift 315 kgs, you are strong, period.

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easy 315 lbs, still don't like is voice.

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[@thundergodkunai2113]

Your voice is distinct and your commentary keeps me engaged so I subbed. Your commentary is good and makes your channel, in my opinion, far better than say strength central which just has music. Ignore the voice haters.

[@Tim_flips]

I actually quite like your voice, but either way I can't imagine commenting on somebody's channel and telling them that their voice doesn't suit their own content. Blows my mind. Anyway, your video production has been really excellent man, love the info. Keep it up!

[@NickWright]

I've been comparing these two in my head for a while now. Cool to see a video like this pop up!

[@victor1993k]

Shut up

[@pandarandom426]

Your voice is awesome, dude. It's unique, part of what brings me to watch every video. anybody who's complaining can just watch it with the sound off, right?

[@BeepyBeepus]

Also can't forget that Coan was subject to 2hr weigh ins which makes a huge difference

[@martinsmit3602]

I competed in the 90's. That suit added 10kg to 15kg tops. The wraps were rubbish compared to today. Also, we didn't have a deadlift bar. Alot has changed.

[@austincook1012]

Now John just broke 1000kg

[@Justmyopinion761]

Keep in mind Ed used a regular bar vs John’s deadlift bar Ed is still king but haack is unreal

[@artv4nd3l4y]

Interesting comparison, even if John Haack is "better" today, Ed Coan is still just as good because he did it so long ago. Today it's much easier to find information, and equipment is much cheaper. I think that's why Ed Coan was so crazy, because even today the best guys around still are close.

[@mossoconnor4417]

Not only did Coan set massive records, but he also did it at a time where even the heavyweights weren’t keeping up. He wasn’t just the strongest lifter in his class he was the strongest lifter overall, which I think has to be taken into consideration. Another thing which makes Coan’s legacy stick is that he competed at a very high level for a very long time, you can’t become GOAT if you are a flash in the pan. If John can stay on top for the next ten years and keep chipping away, which he has been doing, he will surpass Coan. I can’t remember the exact numbers but I think Coan benched 500 and over like 40 something times in competition, this should be a factor. How many competitions did he win even if he wasn’t setting a new record? I think this should play into the GOAT status, not just a all time world record. On top of this Coan held the deadlift record in four different weight classes at the same time if I’m not mistaken, and I think these records stood for close to 20 years. Not only did he set all these records, but he did it in full power meets, and when most of them were broken it was deadlift only. I think John Haack has the potential, but so did Jesse Norris and he is all but forgotten now, so he needs to stay on top for at least the next 10 years before he can be called GOAT

[@littlethuggie]

All that stuff is cool, but in a completely objective sport, where the biggest number literally wins, not sure if the other factors would make you the best ever. Longevity and other traits could make you the most dominant, but I want the one lifting the biggest numbers. Which still happens to be Ed by a small margin due to his squat.

[@mossoconnor4417]

@Alp Tmr go on then

[@willman43]

Anybody know what happened to Jessie Norris??

[@mossoconnor4417]

@Alp Tmr he was on top for 20 years, competed in the biggest meets against the best lifters and won overalls for years. His deadlift records have only just been chipped by Russian super wide sumo pullers competing in deadlift only meets on a bendy bar with giant plates. You need a reality check.

[@Flexible_photon]

I love your voice. Its a reminder that lifting heavy ass weights is a common thing that binds all of us regardless of politics or nationality.

[@OrdinaryArgentinian]

He is now.

[@PartTimeJogger]

You’re voice is what makes the vids awesome🔥

[@nonachyourbusiness1164]

A powerful accent to talk about powerful people. Your voice is perfect for the channel and your content is top notch

[@antoniocenteno1483]

Bro, just don´t mind them, people that call "Annoyingt voice", "Dumb content" or whatever are always out of place and out of touch. I love and apprecciate your content and so do many others, keep on going.

[@rockyxa]

Your voice is part of the charm of this channel

[@dunedain3892]

During my re-entry back into powerlifting after 30 years I am spending the bulk of my time on this channel. I remember following Ed Coan very closely back in the day, as I, like him, started in the 165 lb class. He kept gaining weight, while I remained @ 165. This video brought me right back there...and right into today as well with Haack. I like your style, your attitude, and most importantly the quality content. Thanks man.

[@TonyFontanesi]

Tough to compare. Training knowledge & nutrition are so different. I mean back when Coan did it, people were swilling down raw eggs Rocky style and Waddington had just become the first person to squat 1000 in a competition. Coan was moving unheard of numbers for that era. Now it seems like folks are putting up big numbers all the time. I think they're both studs for their respective competition eras. Belkin can challenge Haack, whereas Coan had no one close.

[@comicbookguy2326]

belkin doesn't just challenge haack, he outright beats him, haack has like 35 pounds more than yury on bench and that's it

[@apostolossouliotis7743]

in my opinion, not much has changed brother. Serious lifters of the past era were eating food like there is no tomorrow to fill their frame and they lifted hard and frequently. I agree though that ,today , we have the advantage to see more and more lifters lifting crazy numbers

[@Derploop]

Nothing wrong with some raw eggs

[@cbrend22]

Mike Bridges outlifted Coan at 181, squatting 838, benching 529, and DL 737. Only 181 ever to hit 2100, and did so with old techniques, very minor squat suit( they WERE very limited, I wore them, I KNOW)and completely raw on bench and DL. Both guys would have been significantly better today using all current nutrition, etc. Coan was better than Hack, and Bridges was better than both at 181. Bridges retired very young and never went up to 198( until a comeback in his 50’s), let alone all the way to 242 like Coan. He would have undoubtedly hit close to broken 2200 if he’d continued into his late 30’s and even more if he’s been around today. He was the GOAT relative to talent, but Coan’s longer career and span of multiple weight classes have to make him the GOAT for an entire career.

[@LogHewer]

@@cbrend22 Bridges was mind-blowing. Definitely agree that he was a beast who would only have gotten better with time.

[@lukebbuff]

Legit only subscribed out of appreciation for the shade in his intro.

[@snakeeyes51]

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[@felixleon4694]

These people are hating for no reason, your voice is actually relaxing, I just chill and eat a snack and watch your videos

[@ddunn987]

Your voice makes these videos iconic. And it’s really good content too every time I see a lifting vault video I gotta watch 😅 keep up the good work man you deserve more subs. They will come.

[@billmiller9920]

There is nothing wrong with your voice friend you sound just fine keep up the good work

[@BrendanTietz]

It’s really worth mentioning that the 901 Ed pulled was on a stiff bar and with really short rest due to the round system. I think it’s rather impossible to compare but I admire the attempt to because it’s fun lol! I think as of now Ed is still the winner here. However John hasn’t had a lot of time on the dark side so I have a feeling if he goes up he will surpass Ed coan. I do wonder though how much modern training tactics and the changes in powerlifting would differ Ed Coan’s life long results. Great video! Fun topic

[@MrNimtiz]

Agreed on the difficulty re comparison. I think its a fun 'What If' but otherwise hard to be totally sure

[@roflmfao4life]

I'll be honest, the voice is growing on me. I like it man

[@isaachall4550]

Seriously people have no right to critique your voice. You honestly have one of the most informative and detailed powerlifting channels on YT. PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

[@jackhughman9450]

"Dont ask e to shut up on my own channel" Gansta!!!!

[@leodaganfight1442]

Idea of video : the guy who has the most chances to break the atwr total My personnal think is that it's Petr Petras

[@paulchenpanther7840]

I agree he looks super strong right now, i think dylan hellriegel could also take it in the next 2-3 years

[@1978Powerlifter]

I remember having tried the same white wraps Coan had long time ago. They are in no way comparable to todays wraps and I would argue some of the sleeves around today provide more support than those wraps did. So I conclude it's a negligible factor. Considering powerlifting was less scientific in those days and still upcoming, without the wealth of knowledge of the internet, I would always consider Ed the GOAT.

[@maemae4811]

i think your voice and accent is calming

[@baw5xc333]

old school lifters deadlifted with stiff bars which makes a difference and also the meets were faster paced back in the day.

[@Blackbereh]

Me and my friend have an absolute obsession with your voice. It's so distinct and entertaining and we quote things from your videos all the time lmao. He doesn't even Powerlift. Am I a lunatic? Yes.

[@TheRobinL]

I would say *Ed Coan is the greater one* of these two. Sure Coan had a powerlifting suit and knee wraps. But how much more did the Old School knee wraps added to the lift compare to todays Knee sleeves? And the Suits back then... Think it was Dave Tate and JM Blakley that talk about how they where amazed that some poppels back then could get ~70lbs/31kg on there bench with a shirt on. Also just look at the advantaged that Haack has today that Coan didn't. The amazing progress we have done in things like: + Nutritional Science + Supplementation + Importens of sleep + Exercise Science + Recovery + Programing + Steroids/PED + The availability of information through the internet. + Camera and software to track barpath and barspeed in slowmotion etc. + Quality of equipment like plates, barbell, floors, shoes, wraps, sleeves etc. + Also what occupation you needed to have back then. Today you can survive on income from just social media or sponsors. You don't need to work +40h/week while your traying to break the world record. Surely missed somethings, but we all get my point. I wonder *if/how* much better would Ed Coan be if he had the same availability of information as Haack have? Don't know, but I belive Coan would have done better he was 35 today. Just like JM Blakley said: *_"They are lucky I am not 35 now, I would have beaten them now. No matter what the lift was."_*

[@nickcollins9170]

Yeah but the appeal to "were know more today" is kinda a cop out bc its impossible to factor that in, and honestly a lot of the things you mention just haven't really improved that much practically today compared to when Ed was lifting. It was not revolutionary. And Ed used a single ply suite and wraps. You can say it was like todays knee sleeves and singlets but thats laughable. Ed admitted to not confuse ppl, he wore the suite and wraps bc he undeniably got weight out of it. His squat would have dipped substantially if he was in SBD knee sleeves and a SBD singlet. And no for JM Blakely to make a comment like that it shows he really doesn't know what he's talking about. Thats just unfounded wishful thinking. Powerlifting is one of the sports that hasn't changed a ton since the 90s unlike other sports that have undergone a ton a changes. You are seriously overrating the amount of change thats taken place and how much those changes affect the athletes.

[@TheRobinL]

@@nickcollins9170 *_"were know more today is kinda a cop out bc its impossible to factor that in"_* So because *you think* it is impossible to factor it in, you just gonna disregarded? If all the factors I listed has almost NO impact on the athletes. Then what is your explanation that records are getting beaten over and over and over again in every sport on earth? I'm assume your not going to claim that athletes back in the 80 and 90 where just lazy and not hard working enough. So what is the reason in your minde? . *_"and honestly a lot of the things you mention just haven't really improved that much"_* I do not know what to tell you more then I think you are a bit uneducated on the subject if you think that almost nothing has improved in Nutritional Science , Supplementation, Exercise Science, Recovery , Programing, Steroids, PED and so on in the last 30 years. Your statement is simply not true. . *_"Ed used a single ply suite and wraps. You can say it was like todays knee sleeves and singlets but thats laughable."_* I *never claimed* that a suit and wraps where like todays sleeves and singlet. I even said "how much more did the Old School knee wraps added...". But there are many peoples out there that believes a single ply squat suit is the same as a squat suit from the 90s. And there is big, big difference between todays singly ply and the single play from 90s. And also, Eds best deadlift was without a suit if I am not mistaking. Just a singlet and a belt. So you can only claim he got help from a suit in 2 out of 3 lifts. . *_"he wore the suite and wraps bc he undeniably got weight out of it"_* Yeah. I know. My point is *how much* more? Just like wearing belt, knee sleeves, squat/deadlift shoes, wrist wraps etc is adding kg/lbs to your total. How much more? We don't know exactly but we do know is does, IF it did not. Nobody would waste there time wearing it. . *_"JM Blakely to make a comment like that it shows he really doesn't know what he's talking about."_* So I ask you again. If it has almost nothing to do with what I said. Why are record being broken in every sport around the world? . *_" Powerlifting is one of the sports that hasn't changed a ton since the 90s unlike other sports that have undergone a ton a changes"_* What ton of changes has Football, Hockey, Basketball, track and field etc. undergone that Powerlifting hasn't? . And I would say you are seriously underrating the amount these change affect the athletes. If it's not the things I talk about. What is the reason records are being broken all the time in every sport on earth. I don't think you gonna tell Ed Coan he was just lazy and did not work hard enough, or did not have the right mentality. I also don't think you gonna pretend humans as a species have all of a sudden in just 30 years super evolve to these strength monsters. So in your minde, what is the reason for this?

[@duncanshaheen6517]

yo who else loves this dudes voice. It's really relaxing for me.

[@r_s_enduro]

Just wanna say your voice ACTUALLY MAKES ME FOCUS MORE ON THE VIDEO. I dont hate it I appreciate it! Great video content been subbed for a minute.

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Nice video as always man!

[@MrStrengthfreak]

You can only call John the GOAT when he starts outlifting superheavyweights like Ed Coan did. Remember, Ed Coan broke the all time total total record (in any weightclass) when he weighed only 242.

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[@Tomfitzj]

Never really paid too much attention to your accent, but I think it’s unique and makes your channel stand out, it gives it sort of a style.

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Your voice is very relaxing, and the tempo is spot on

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Don't worry about the haters man, love the channel and that voice is focused, and chill. It has a really nice flow and it kind of expresses the sincerity and determination behind every athlete and their lifts.

[@Beaudozer9000]

What makes Ed the GOAT is the fact he was out totalling SHWs as a 198 and 220. He was so much further ahead of the competetion at the time.

[@Fdanism]

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[@tobiasschneider8075]

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I like your voice dude. It makes the videos unique and it’s kinda satisfying to hear it.

[@Theyodapuppet]

I like your videos. You're the only channel with these type of videos that actually give out info on powerlifters and go back and compare current ones with the greats. every other channels just copy and pastes videos from the athlete's instagrams. plus your videos give me a good idea of what I need to shoot for ;) keep it up man.

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Bruh your voice is actually very good and calming I like it

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Idk if I like or dislike your voice. All I know is it's iconic, all I have to hear is like two words and I know whose video it is. Keep up the good work man.

[@brysimms]

Your voice is fine, I never really thought about it. Calm and clear.

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Love the talk over! Never stop the talk

[@mickeypadovano9121]

Lol, love the new policy. The accent definitely does make the channel its own. Curious what your accent is though.

[@SURGEMULTIMEDIA]

Your voice is so relaxing i dont get how people dislike it

[@thedamme6526]

Your voice makes your channel more unique than the other powerlifting YT channels

[@Gene-dd5tm]

Don’t listen to the haters man, I actually quite like your voice. There’s a certain precision in how you pronounce words which makes it quite distinct from other people. Keep up the good work man!

[@lobolex305]

The voice is part of your brand, not only do we like it but it’s absolutely necessary for your channel.

[@thomasstansfield5544]

Seriously?! People are really complaining about your voice and accent? You have more guts than all of them. First of all, your voice is totally fine. Second, your accent is slight and your are very, very easy to understand. I couldn't imagine doing a series of videos in my other language. Keep it up and ignore the haters. They can keep sitting on their moms' couches sucking at life while you keep cranking great content. Way to go, brother!

[@mr.andmrs.armstrong8359]

One important factor about Coan using a suit and knee wraps is Coan was one of the least dependent upon equipment of those of that era. Coan would wrap his own knees instead of getting someone else to do it getting it much tighter. Coan would easily put up his own straps as his suit was comparatively very loose. It was always a pretty well known fact it was really difficult to get Coan to start trying to wear a new lifting suit. You can even hear in an interview with him and Steve Goggins where Goggins is laughing and telling how John Inzer would send him suits but he couldn't get Ed to ever wear them. He just kept using and patching up his old loose suits. Point being the suits and wraps of that era did add to the squat but the help Ed got from them was definitely on the low end. He wasn't real dependent upon it as others were to gain the edge. Just a beast!

[@rawirihemi27]

Nothing wrong with your voice or accent man, clearly English isn’t your 1st language and you speak it very well and fluently. Keep the great videos coming 🙏🏾

[@roydank1864]

Fuck those comments, keep up the great videos man!

[@mikeb9396]

People who criticize you for your voice and accent really have nothing better to do with their time. You are better off without them. Your video content is outstanding. Keep it up!

[@simondean5227]

I think you're overestimating the effect of squat suits from Ed's era. If the lifters of that time say the suits were minimal, than I'm inclined to agree with them.

[@Second247]

Yeah. I think Ed himself thought that is might have given him something like 10-20 pounds, if i recall correctly from some of his interviews. I'm inclined to believe him.

[@simondean5227]

@@Second247 It's easy to tell just by looking at them that Ed has a better squatting build, too

[@whocares.95]

Yeah you can't really compare a single ply super suit one to today's gear.

[@josephblow5946]

An Inzer 1 ply lifting suit gave me roughly 30 lbs. High quality wraps about the same, maybe a little more if you wrapped them just right. So you're looking at a 60 - 70 lb increase in your squat fully equipped back in Coan's era. One-ply bench shirts also enhanced your bench by a meager 30 lbs or so, nothing like the 200 lb plus bench shirts of today.

[@apo75018]

Love your commentary.

[@christopherfaulkner5821]

Peak Ed Coan was much stronger mainly because of the squat. Hack is a better bencher pound for pound by a slight bit and I’d say they’re pretty equal in deadlifting capabilities. Pound for pound hacks 2000 raw total at 181 is more impressive than Coan’s 2400+ total single ply total at 220, however Overall Coan was stronger.

[@beefmaster2177]

No bro we love your voice, plz continue narrating the best sport ever!!!

[@marcus11619]

your voice is fine my guy, keep pumping out excellent videos!

[@splendidninja1378]

Love your channel and your voice. Screw the haters.

[@catedoge3206]

His brute strength in the deadlift is fucking insane. He's the epitome of grip and rip.

[@Big_finnerz]

Your voice is instantly recognisable , much more so than all these American channels that sound exactly the same

[@scottwebster8756]

Ed Coan did his lifting in the 80s before the internet. You recently posted a video of a 123 lb woman conventional deadlifting 530 lbs ! That's crazy strong and is only possible because of the access to information we have now. Haack is a great lifter and would have been good if he lifted in the 80s, but not as good as he is now. Ed Coan is the GOAT. Love your channel.

[@josephunderhile5804]

Thanks for the videos nevermind the haters on your voice. Keep up the good work

[@56darkstar]

don’t worry about the haters on your voice bro, your content is quality bro, keep it up

[@James-lc4id]

How do people not like this guys voice it’s chill AF

[@702silverandblack5]

Your doing a great job man. Thank you for the quality content.

[@user-ps8mv6js8f]

This is my Favourite powerlifting channel out of all of them, and I like that distinct voice. There is nothing more irritating than the other one that sounds like a 10 year old excited child that literally just puts up any old video!

[@joshuadownes9137]

I love this channel it's always the best with everything you have on it

[@Hotsoups42]

Dude, your voice is fine. I have enjoyed your videos for months. These haters can just go elsewhere and watch lesser quality content. Keep up the good work, and here’s to your 20k mark!

[@mazocco]

Man, accept the critics but dont ever give space for the haters. Dont go down to their level. You are much more than that and the narrator that we deserve and want.

[@mr.andmrs.armstrong8359]

The old guys will say Coan and the young guys will say Haack. For me even an objective head to head comparison such as this doesn't seem to do justice to Coan's sheer dominance for those who were around in that era. Unbelievable numbers for years, various weight classes, always great form, hardly missing lifts, often looking effortless, very little emphasis on equipment in an era where everyone did, great physique.

[@vladimirgeorgiev322]

Ed Coan is the best ever... Nobody even comes close !

[@KaokashinPlays]

john Smith I doubt it no one can do what coan did

[@sa1936]

Nothing wrong with your voice ! Just keep pumping this great content!

[@davek118]

Half the reason I watch these videos is for the voice. So soothing.

[@pablocs3311]

Idgaf about his voice. English is most KZbin viewers' second language, we all have an accent, however thin or thick. As someone who's passionate about powerlifting, my only concern is the quality of the content and this guy's two channels (Strength Central and Lifting Vault) are unique in that aspect, he's really knowledgeable in regards to the sport and provides great commentary. Don't listen to the haters! Pd: I'm good with accents but I can't really tell where he's from? Care to advice, Strength Central/Lifting Vault?

[@miguelgarciadominguez7190]

I only see your videos because of your voice! Well not, i see then because they are quite good, but your voice relaxes me

[@justabigbuhckdontlookatmeb8080]

Lol the accent is literally what makes me remember ur channel even exists ur voice is the foundation here if it was any different chaos would ensue