Light Gun Reviews 248: Ragnok 2 (Mouse)

[@rodkuhn45]

GREAT review

[@Boojakascha]

Thank you! I am glad you liked it! =)

[@arcticowl1091]

came here to double check other reviewers and i'm glad to see that the company that makes these takes criticism well. i'm gonna order one too, there's a shocking lack of vertical mice in the gaming space so it's nice to see experimentation like this.

[@Boojakascha]

Yeah, it's cool that they don't flip out about critique. But it's also and issue that they don't learn from their errors. After repeated mislabeling in the ads and unauthorized usage of video footage one would have hoped they knew better. The mouse is good though :D

[@YarugumaSou]

Just got mine, and it seems there have been some update since this review. The switches are Kailh tactile blue, there's a metal trigger replacement included, the base is now held tighter by friction and though I haven't opened the mouse to check the battery, they still claim it's 800mAh Edit: Just opened it to check and yeah, battery's still 600mAh

[@Boojakascha]

@@YarugumaSou Thanks a ton for the news! How do you like the metal trigger? Super frustrating that they still lie about the battery! :(

[@marctoonz813]

Did you ever receive your order I’ve been waiting for days now

[@arcticowl1091]

@@marctoonz813 i haven't ordered one, i had some financial troubles so no mouse for me :(

[@garageparty5541]

Very balanced review, loved you knit-picking and calling them out on their false advertising, and also giving your true thoughts on how it plays at the end

[@Boojakascha]

Thanks a lot! It's a bummer that they use improper practices, because the items on their own are fun!

[@garageparty5541]

​@@Boojakascha Yeah exactly! I ordered mine the other day even tho it may not be perfect but at least fun. I just want a mouse I can fully grip and with a trigger fuction similar to a controller, doesn't even have to be virtical, imagine something like the ragnok 2 but horizontal, or like a hocky puck shaped mouse with triggers on the front. I watched Short Circuit's (Linus Tech Tips) review of this and they seemed so pretentious and negative before even opening the box, but you actually went in depth and pointed out the positives and negatives without bias and I just want commend you again on that.

[@Boojakascha]

@@garageparty5541 very nice of you =) If the mouse is allowed to be less gun like, then you might be interested to hear about the FPSGUN FG-1000 which I showed in episode 223. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJyzemh6mZiIhK8si=f7r-Nlhbe4WKt9EL I used that one in an office for about a year and like it quite a bit :D

[@PietKonijn1980]

Give me a thousand such review warriors, and I could change the world!

[@Boojakascha]

what is a review warrior? 😅

[@PietKonijn1980]

@@Boojakascha :D A review warrior is a reviewer of computer products that provides thorough, unbiased, and detailed reviews with clear explanations, demonstrating both technical expertise and an understanding of consumer needs. :D

[@Boojakascha]

@@PietKonijn1980 very nice, thank you :D

[@МихаилНестерцов-д4ь]

Thanks for the review. Videos for casual gamers seem to be more popular. Keyboards, gaming mice, headphones. Counter-Strike, Warzone, PUBG - have a large audience. And reviews of new gaming devices are always interesting.

[@Boojakascha]

I am glad you like it =) While casaul topics appeal to more people, the space is also more crowded with more competition^^ As my video aren't exactly personality driven, I will stick to my niche I think :P

[@juanwick730]

Excellent review.

[@Boojakascha]

Thank you, kind Sir!

[@ellef9331]

I've been using my vertical GXT 144 Rexx by Trust for years now and am very happy that I switched to the vertical layout. Do you think this one could be a better option for gaming while still maintaining good office usability? I heard that the buttons are kind of flimsy. But hard to tell if that has been fixed meanwhile. Hope you can give me some thoughts. :) Great and honest review by the way. Exactly what I was looking for.

[@Boojakascha]

Well better for gaming is a brave statement^^ But I would think it would be more "fun" for gaming. The button quality is nice in my opinion. The trigger is linear, which I don't like much on mice, keyboards and controllers. I used it personally in an office capacity for some weeks and so did a friend of mine. Worked well, really. We both liked it but eventually swapped it for a less crazy vertical mouse for office work, much like your GXT144 Rexx. I ended up getting the Logitech which I have in the comparison chart. I hated it for about 3 months and now I like it and don't regret it anymore :D

[@ellef9331]

@@Boojakascha Thanks for the detailed feedback. I guess I will give it a try. There are actually quite a lot of used ones available here in Germany. I wonder why ... :D Linear switches are not that great, I agree. Nothing that a soldering iron can't fix, tho. Wish me luck!

[@Boojakascha]

@@ellef9331 I am 100 % confident that you will be able to swap the switch :D have much fun! =)

[@gluteusmaximus7608]

Gigachad review. W

[@Boojakascha]

Thank you, kind Sir :D

[@DrAzTiK01]

Thanks again for this amazing review :) It is the best ergonomic mouse at this moment imo. I use it for 6 month and really like it. ( even better than my gecko pistol mouse). This product should introduce himself not only as a gamer mouse but also as an ergonomic mouse. (for people who have pain in carpa tunnal)

[@Boojakascha]

That's really cool, I am glad to hear that! Although I like the Ragnok and other pistol mice better than the Logitech MX vertical, I settled now with the latter at work, because I was knees deep in the Logitech Unifying eco system already anyways and now can cross use their dongle. Also the mouse won't interfere with dress code & the mouse configurator doesn't interfere with IT policy. Still, adapting to the MX Vertical took me two months. Adapting to any pistol mouse or the Ragnok 2 in particular took me 10 minutes. The Ragnok 2 is indeed a neat ergo solution =)

[@mr6291]

Great review! I just picked one up and waiting for it to arrive. Curious about something. When you opened it up, how much empty space was inside the grip? I plan on swapping the Cherry MX switch out for a shorting actuating tactile switch but I also want to look into putting in a LiPO filament battery (it might not fit, mouse dimensions are almost at same size) and possibly some smaller haptic vibration motors on the inner grip walls.

[@Boojakascha]

Thank you very much! I can't quite remember, but my gut feeling is that it was pretty densely packed (not much air left).

[@mr6291]

@@Boojakascha I just got mine in. Sorry to bug you again, but how did you open it up? Screws under the PTFE pads or elsewhere?

[@Boojakascha]

@@mr6291 don't you worry =) Yes, under both Teflon feet. Luckily there are no screws under the bottom sticker.

[@aurelAli1919]

Cool review thank you. My ragnok gun mouse is on the way to me I am more exited now😊. Usually play with a razer ultimate v2 happy to test something as novel as a gun mouse

[@Boojakascha]

I am curious to hear how you like it :D Because it can be programmed, I think it's very capable and not just a gimmick :D

[@aurelAli1919]

Defenetlly send you my feedback. You surprised me when you say you as good with it as your usual mouse. You must have a lot of practice. I will test it with warzone 2 I wonder how my progress will be.

[@aurelAli1919]

Bthw loved how you trashed LTT video 😂😂😂 it was that video that made me buy the gun mouse in the beginning 😅

[@Boojakascha]

You can see by the wear on my mouse pad that I go hard^^ I was just being a d1ck :P "Short Circuit" are mostly unboxings, right... So he couldn't have known there was a software^^ And I think David went in without any preparation. I enjoy LTT as a viewer =)

[@WolfMimirMori]

Huh, it's actually nice to see them changing things from your words alone. As you said, it would've been easy to sweep you under the rug due to your size. So kudos to them for that. A bit of an irony, they've changed website design and shows that they carry some kind of box black switch, but they advertise it now being sold with blue clicky switches.

[@Boojakascha]

While I appreciate them going away from linear key switches I think it's stupid doing so silently and without sticker on the tin. In the end customers have no clue what they are getting, especially when they are buying old or used stock.

[@WolfMimirMori]

@@Boojakascha 100%, they are for sure having a PR conflict, seems that information is hardly traded between designers, PR team and whoever is making the mouse. They need to step up their game for sure. Sweden is now getting them in for stock, so I assume it will simply be new stock without any old, but I doubt that will go true for Amazon buyers or other stores that has stock of the old ones. First declared wrong switches with wrong pictures. Fixed it after you contacted them. Now they have assumingly the correct switches as advertised... But now the picture is wrong again, showing a black one that isn't even the same as the one in yours!

[@Boojakascha]

@@WolfMimirMori Oh wow, this is frustrating :D I guess the good news is that anybody who can solder and has tools to break into modern electronics (special pry bars really) could swap the switch as a last resort.

[@SchizoidMastermind]

not only did you do a thorough literal breakdown, you played csgo to test it which is what i wanted to use it for (along with ergonomics for carpal tunnel) amazing video and now i know what to expect

[@Boojakascha]

Glad the video was useful to you :D Recently I suffered a Tenosynovitis and then I used the Ragnok 2 at work for a month or so, which worked well. Also I lend it to a coworker at office who had his carpal tunnel operated. He also liked it. Overall there were vertical mice which I liked more for office work (clicking fields in MS Excel and such) like the FPSGUN FG-1000. But the Ragnok 2 is nice for gaming and I never regretted getting it :D

[@darksunwu3805]

nice video! thanks~ i love it

[@Boojakascha]

I am glad you enjoyed it =)

[@YarugumaSou]

Are the switches soldered into the board? I wonder if we could swap them for tactile ones

[@Boojakascha]

Yes, those are soldered, but the quality of the PCB is fine. You can de-solder the switches conveniently =)

[@YarugumaSou]

​@@BoojakaschaThanks, I might try that in the future

[@jimmerseiber]

Do you think youll ever review the sinden lcd lightgun?

[@Boojakascha]

I reviewed it in episode 205 =) I hope you like that video^^

[@ultraspinalki11]

Are all the products you review compatible with a Mister FPGA? Thanks.

[@Boojakascha]

No, Sir! You have to check individually :)

[@ultraspinalki11]

​@@BoojakaschaDo you have any particular videos you could recommend me checking out on your channel? Top 10 light gun videos that work with a MISTER?

[@Boojakascha]

@@ultraspinalki11 The best light gun for Mister is the Gun4IR, but you would have to check with @jaybee1584 to see how get it running =) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWfdqqWDhLZ_fZY

[@joecorley1627]

thank you

[@Boojakascha]

You are very welcome!

[@austinmattison9373]

Do not order one of these. The company is a scam. They sent me old, returned product that was not what was advertised on their website. It arrived opened and they don't tell you until much back and forth emailing that they can't offer a full refund, but will give $10 for you to peddle it to someone else.

[@Boojakascha]

Wow, that sucks :(

[@wettuga2762]

I will never understand these "gun" mice. It doesn't look as comfortable nor as practical as using a mouse or a light gun. I guess it's just a matter of preference and/or compromise.

[@Boojakascha]

To me it will remain for ever a gag, no matter how usable. That said I enjoy it :D

[@AdlerElements]

Deutscher?

[@Boojakascha]

Es Biz

[@Pedroliebert]

this video is great, i´m amazed, thank you brother for the great information you provided. I had been trying to find something like this for days.

[@Boojakascha]

Thank you! I am very happy that you found the video helpful :D

[@Pedroliebert]

@@Boojakascha i´ve also seen the other revolver video, it seemed to be better, the aesthethics, the response, etc. I wonder if there was a gyro one of those, you you kinda could aim anywhere and just undepend on mousepad´s limitations

[@Leeadd623]

hey man im new here and i found this channel great! what vertical mouse do you think will be the best for fps games? thanks!

[@Boojakascha]

Thanks! I recommend taking a look at the gun mice playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLjUzXEvDGFBkAv6jPgaq2ju04W7Bmk3oY You might value some aspects more than others, so a general recommendation is difficult. My favourite is the Ghost Hunter