Crisis in Eschatology: The Last Days According to Jesus with R.C. Sproul

Eschatology-or the study of the “last days”-is full of heated debates. In this message, R.C. Sproul looks to Jesus’ own words to bring clarity to this topic.
This is the 1st in a series of messages by Dr. Sproul on the last days. See other videos in the series: • The Last Days Accordin...

[@jackjones3657]

Does the world in 2021 and beyond ever need RC Sproul! It is wonderful that we have this library of his teachings that will remain timeless in their wisdom and biblical veracity.

[@StaceeMassey]

Agreed 🙏

[@iacoponefurio1915]

He is probably happy to be where he is at

[@AverageHuman7026]

The world in 2021 and beyond needs Jesus. Give glory to God alone and not any man. “For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3‬:‭11‬ ‭

[@emilylong9096]

Try being in 2023 🫣 God help us all

[@daveonezero6258]

until youtube takes them down.

[@arpthirteen6713]

The most important thing about end time prophecy is, to be ready.

[@sammyt4549]

By being busy with the masters work

[@josephrohland5604]

"I only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel." ~Jesus Christ in Matthew 15:24 "Redemption was only for those who sinned under the first covenant." ~Apostle Paul in Hebrews 9:15 "Jesus came only to redeem those under the (Old Covenant) law." ~Apostle Paul in Galatians 4:5 "Where there is no (Old Covenant) law, sin is not taken into account." ~Apostle Paul in Romans 5:13 "The ADOPTION into Sonship, the GLORY, the COVENANTS (both Old & New), the giving of the LAW, the WORSHIP and the PROMISES only BELONGED to (ancient) ISRAELITES." ~Apostle Paul in Romans 9:4 Today's "Christians" have been duped into believing a misappropriated redemptive narrative that appeared soon after AD 70 and it's been a circus of error ever since.~Michael Bradley

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@josephrohland5604 what a wackjob

[@wserthmar8908]

@@josephrohland5604, why would he spend time explaining things to the Samaritan woman then?

[@josephrohland5604]

@@wserthmar8908 Jesus spent time explaining things to the Samaritan woman because she was begging him to heal her daughter.

[@LR-yu3mx]

I love listening to RC on u tube. I feel blessed to be able to listen to his preaching daily

[@babysosa4830]

I met him over 40 years ago when he taught on a Bible study. I’m wondering who he was then. I remember his great emphasis on infant baptism.

[@terminat1]

KZbin.

[@pocadon]

@@babysosa4830 oh yeah! One of his greatest friends John MacArthur has a different view on baptism and used to debate each other. I like when RC was at the pulpit and you can see him look over at someone (probably John) and he takes jabs at John about baptism then starts cracking up with the crowd. Those 2 were a powerful force together but John MacArthur is the only one left out of that "crew" of great men. I think he's going to be at the Ark encounter next year so you see him, tour the museum, the Ark and the petting zoo. Wow, I ramble.

[@blchamblisscscp8476]

You can download the Ligonier app for iOS or Android and listen to RC, Steve Lawson, John MacArthur, And a host of other Reformed luminaries.

[@blchamblisscscp8476]

@@babysosa4830 You're very fortunate to have been in a Bible study RC was teaching. I have to do it vicariously. My pastor was one of his pupils in seminary.

[@lemmclemmon4536]

I always felt weird when most preachers would preach about future prophesy. I believe it was the HOLY SPIRIT letting me know it was so far from the truth. I'm indebted to brother Sproul, and very few others, for teaching the truth.

[@stereotype5868]

Me too,to the point I didn't want to go to church,

[@annereynolds66]

You need to know what the Bible says , not man

[@Patrick-sg7cm]

This clearly isn't the new earth. Death and suffering still exist.

[@Vitalbowhunting]

Love RC and also love how this ministry leaves the comment section open, so we can all fellowship!

[@honahwikeepa2115]

2023 and the urgency is more apparent. Lord makes us wise toward you as we listen to sound doctrine from such dedicated men like R C Sproul. May we be relative to our current postmodern post-Christian world.

[@ONCESAVEDALWAYSSAVED123]

14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

[@nealmcbaggins127]

Your profile name is a lie. OSAS is a heretical lie

[@daveonezero6258]

This is something that is going to be very valuable for me. I'm new to christianity but I recently learned that I hold a reformed view and didn't realize dispensationalism was a thing. Some interesting conversations coming up in my relationships and small groups.

[@tyroneanderson8270]

So important for the church to understand this.

[@brianmonayong2769]

In the introduction to the Holy Scripture, R.C. Sproul wrote that the Bible “transcends and stands apart from, above, every other book.” And as such, Jesus Christ transcends and stands apart from, above, every other human being. 🙏

[@jackieperreault4737]

Thank you for making this available on KZbin. I am planning to order the study guide and watch it with my teenage children. God bless your ministry and the rich legacy of Dr. Sproul.

[@remediosbrier3622]

Thank you for preaching in the last days returning God very soon,God bless you Rc

[@jmarsian4017]

I am really surprised at the comments criticizing Dr. Sproul's teaching . I have never heard a better teacher being an Etymologist and having such an amazing memory .

[@blchamblisscscp8476]

At first I thought you wrote entomology. :😁 If you do enjoy that subject (etymology), you might enjoy the insights on Alpha & Omega Ministries channel. Its not a daily topic, but it is frequently the topic. The host is definitely Reformed.

[@fredcourtney03]

Thank you for the instruction. Watching the word of God daily prepares me for my struggles to come. Bless RC Sproul and John MacArthur. I love the channel

[@lanes58]

They were both Calvinists, which isn’t biblical.

[@93Current]

Crisis in Eschatology? Don't worry, it's not the end of the world.

[@Chirhopher]

Lol

[@Chirhopher]

Wooow, amen, Ahmein; but, We are tipping Out hand a bit Brother! If anyone reads this and thinks this is the end of the world, I'm happy to show Ya my whole hand; cards all on the table Brrthren

[@P.H.888]

Certainly Not! Jesus and His Apostles lived in the last days. Culminating in 70 ad

[@wakeywakey8603]

Sept. 11, 2001: Trigger Event Sept. 23, 2017: Revelation 12:1-2 March 6, 2021: 1260 Days Later The Great Tribulation has begun. Look up Deagle Report''s USA population forcast if u need secular confirmation. The Harvest has arrived.

[@godsancientworld]

@lary Snw Yes they have.

[@SAOProductions1955]

He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty. From there he will come to judge the living and the dead.

[@glenhowell6909]

Great introductary message.

[@DoxedFN]

Love RC, praise the Lord for men like this.

[@christvictoriouskingdomnow2473]

Amen, we advertise this series on our playlist. God-bless!

[@jellyfishlabs1112]

R.C. Sproul had it right knowing that Christ has already returned, the "corruptible becoming incorruptible" rapture, and Satan had be bound 1000 years already. We are now in the short season. Sproul knew this along with Lewis, and other greats in the history of christian writers

[@chipverner3246]

Concerning the 1000 years: 10=completeness. 3= divinity. 10x10x10 would convey to the 1st century reader a period of divine completeness, not necessarily a literal thousand years. I’m not saying you are wrong about the little season, only that there is a good chance that the 1k years is figurative.

[@ianbetts4435]

Bible > Matthew > Chapter 24 > Verse 36 ◄ Matthew 24:36 ► "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father Jesus didn't know when he was coming back

[@StBloodeD09]

Jesus is quoting zechariah 14

[@alexkelley385]

This was stated before Christ was resurrected and His glory was again as it was before His incarnation. Consider John 17…

[@billyfaulk6789]

Matthew 24:32-36 (ESV) 32 “From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. 36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. So they could see it coming, in that generation, but not the specific hour or day.

[@kamauwikeepa7308]

Totally agree. This brother follows, and careful reading God's word, using God's own word to argue his understanding and open up the truth. Thank you and God continue to bless this channel.

[@mactek6033]

Just read the first sentence of Revelations and put it to rest. It's finished.

[@lillyhall645]

Always inspiring to me!

[@lemmclemmon4536]

i truly thank GOD for this teaching!

[@elsainnamorato2231]

Jesus said what he had to say. He already knew that the unfaithful would criticize his works. For no one's word is trustworthy only the one of the ultimate authority. (Titus 3:9 but avoid foolish controversies genealogies dissensions and quarrels about law for they are unprofitable and worthless.) At the end whoever trifles the word,God will put them to shame. God bless

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Wackoville

[@elsainnamorato2231]

@@iacoponefurio1915 🤪

[@ronl514]

Kathleen W...... I think RC would say, If Jesus seeks you and sets you free from slavery to sin, then you are free indeed to seek Him for an eternity!!

[@hellosunshine1090]

Thanks for commenting ! Watch ALL the messages in this series they build upon each other. kzbin.info/aero/PL30acyfm60fWm9jA8LNRnYizJj5VEduus See also "Beast of Revelation Identified" kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaqalHiNabJ9l8U See also "The Destruction of Jerusalem", a small book giving a 1st hand account, as evidence of Jesus prophecy of the Temple and city's destruction, in Matthew 23-24 tinyurl.com/Destructionofjerusalembook Blessings in Christ - David

[@wisevirgin3405]

@@hellosunshine1090 -------------------- While it is true the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" begins when God takes the "Kingdom of God" (Holy Spirit) away from the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" and gives it to the New Testament "church"... ----------------- Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, the KINGDOM OF GOD shall be TAKEN from you [TAKEN from the Jewish Kingdom], and it was GIVEN to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof [and then it was GIVEN to the 3rd Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"] ------------------ It's also true that there is a significant period of time... with the fulfillment of many prophetic "signs" never known before the end of the Great Commission. ------------------ In fact it is very simple to PROVE Great Tribulation events were never understood (much less fulfilled) at 70AD... or in any period during the Great Commission. Because there are (literally) dozens of passages that contradict that notion and several passages that specifically PROMISE the fulfillment of Daniel's Abomination and end-time events COULD NOT be known until after the destruction of the Revelation Beasts(s)​. -------------------- In other words, prophetic "signs" regarding Daniel's prophecies and the fulfillment of Great Tribulation events were PROMISED to remain "closed-up" and "sealed" [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]... until the Last Saints, who also "see" the fulfillment of Great Tribulation "signs" [Mat 24:15 and 24:33] ---------------------- Here is a link discussing some of these matters: www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-4 --------------------- Note, that is to chapter four of the little book. You should read chapters 1-3 and you should see Daniel's "Abomination" revealed in chapter 8 ---------------------- If you can find even ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts anything revealed on that website I will immediately delete the entire site. ---------------------- But be warned... this information has already been tested by some of the most esteemed theologians teaching in some of the most prestigious seminaries in American... and NONE of them could find a single contradiction. (See "Recipient's" page). ---------------------- I invite you (and your church) to try to do better. -----------------------

[@hellosunshine1090]

@@wisevirgin3405 Do you're holding to basically Premillennial Dispensationalism ? Or how would you better describe your view ?

[@hellosunshine1090]

@@wisevirgin3405 Apparently you're mainly here to argue Eschatology - I'm not. I'm for polite Christ Honoring discussions. Yet right out of the gate you say I'm "rude" ?....

[@wisevirgin3405]

@@hellosunshine1090 ... Hello, the video was about eschatology. ---------------- I am not here to argue, I am here to enlighten. And it is nothing less than rude to ignore information provided. You can pretend otherwise but you are just pretending. When a disciple cites passages it is simply RUDE to ignore those references. You are known by your "fruit" -------------- We need not continue this communication. Good luck learning Biblical "meat" by demonstrating continued "willful ignorance" of relevant Scriptures. ------------- www.5thKingdomofHeaven.com ------------

[@conspiringnationmediagroup8402]

Can you please make an eschatology play list

[@roymathai619]

I always wondered by Jesus' saying that he is coming soon and have asked how soon is soon?

[@mikecara3271]

Unfortunately, when we hear the phrase “the coming of Christ” we think of the second coming… BUT 90+ percent of the Bible when it talks about God “coming” is not talking about the second coming… Rather, it’s a “coming” in judgment

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Its both. Obviously read the bible sometime

[@mikecara3271]

@@iacoponefurio1915 No it’s not….but ok…and btw…I have very advanced degrees in theology. But you can believe what you want….fine with me. “I am coming soon”. (Jesus)

[@racquelracette2457]

@@mikecara3271 and so did the Pharisees. They were so impressed with their knowledge that they missed the true message. Humility goes a long way.

[@mikecara3271]

@@iacoponefurio1915 I am sure I know and have studied the Bible more than you…but do you have a point?

[@mikecara3271]

@@racquelracette2457 Knowledge is a good thing… Of course some missed the point… While some of them got the point

[@billhesford6098]

Dispensationalist to preterist was a rough road but the early church certainly thought Jesus was returning in their lifetime.

[@pattreadway708]

Jesus and the early church had to believe in the immediacy of the return of the Christ, he himself taught "No one knows the hour about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" (Matt 24:36)...to this day, it is only by God's grace, we have been given time to gather more believers unto the Son...but we have to act in urgency for we dont know when the Book of Life shall be filled...

[@billhesford6098]

@@pattreadway708 Jesus and the early church did not know the day or the hour. But they did know some standing there listening to Jesus would still be alive when Jesus returned. "But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God." They did know it would happen in the generation listening to Jesus speaking directly to those listeners: "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled." As I discovered, it is all over the new testament and I wonder why this is not clearly taught in all churches.

[@pattreadway708]

@@billhesford6098 Mark 9 goes on to describe the transfiguration of Christ, and standing in heaven in glorified form. Matthew 17, Luke 9 and 2Peter 1 also share this event. Mark is divided to include your quoted verse as part of Chp 9; however Matthew 16 & Luke 9 include the statement with the preceding dialogs. Ellicott's commentary of Matt16:28 helps a bit to explain. Matthew 24:32-35 is a little more straight forward.

[@billhesford6098]

​@@pattreadway708 I used to use that explanation. I studied it a few times trying to believe that is what Jesus was speaking of. No it is not even close to the kingdom of God on earth. Not really. All the early church people seem to still expect this kingdom in their lifetimes long after the transfiguration. Long after the resurrection.

[@nathaniellewis5233]

They must have been disappointed when Jesus didn't come back yet.

[@rhondae8222]

Amen! Praise Christ. ❤

[@leeannbarnett]

The link to the series appears to be broken.

[@apoorfellowsoldierofchrist22]

kzbin.info/aero/PL30acyfm60fWm9jA8LNRnYizJj5VEduus Here it is :)

[@markh.harris9271]

Excellent series;

[@wisevirgin3405]

How can you say "excellent series" when Sproul does not even "reveal" that the PEOPLE living in the Revelation Beast are the SAME people living during the Great Tribulation and the SAME people living during Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME people living during the reign of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and the SAME people called the "ten virgins" [Mat 25:1-13] or the SAME people living during Satan's "Little Season" and the SAME people of Dan 2:44 living when the Eternal Kingdom is established. -------------- And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in EACH case) they are the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns. In other words... they are the LAST "wheat and tares" on earth. You can BEGIN to learn more in chapter 1.2 and 1.3 (below) ------------------ www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-1 -------------------

[@democratpro]

@@wisevirgin3405 you could have saved a lot of typing by simply watching his other videos. It's not "wise" to speak when you should be listening.

[@LifeandLifeMoreAbundantly]

When was this recorded?

[@mitchellpersenaire1675]

RC Sproul is one of the greats. Chuck Missler is another. If you like RC you’ll love Chuck Missler

[@camilleriggan9555]

Gods time cannot be measured. It cannot be understood as it is in HIS wisdom. He is true and worthy of our belief. Time is in his hands and no others. Man thinks he is so smart-Bertrand Russell.

[@seekrighteousness297]

Jesus said not even the angels or The Son of man know the day or hour only the Father who is in Heaven

[@TheJuan3123]

truly

[@StBloodeD09]

Jesus is quoting zechariah 14

[@shellyblanchard5788]

The day and the hour came when the temple was distroyed in 70 AD We don't have to worry about it. He lives with us.

[@shellyblanchard5788]

@lary Snw Most people think it is and we need not worry because he will help in time of trouble but, we are free from the that. the trib 3 and half years. it was in israel's future not our. although i think somethings are happening. We have been made worthy to escape such things, but we will be tested to an extent I believe,

[@jesusistheonlygodamen3406]

@@shellyblanchard5788 that was a parallel and foreshadowing

[@whowillbesaved9580]

Exactly, what do you do with that? All of these things were fulfilled in that generation so what's the problem?

[@jcfcakagodembassymissionsi5127]

GOD BLESS YOU SIR.

[@masarati7315]

I have no respect at all for Bertrand Russel, likely he is dead and in Hell, unless he repented and was converted, I very much doubt it though. I don't even consider mentioning him in any kind of lecture or preaching.

[@BarclayJayakaran]

KJV is very clear there is no confusion in Mat. 10: 23 Matthew 10:23 KJV - But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

[@martiangaming329]

Where is the rest of this???

[@lalumierehuguenote]

:o this was published 2 days ago :o. What a coincidence as I was wondering again about eschatology after having read an imminency passage in 1 Peter

[@Anotherparadigmshift]

There's over 100 in the NT. It's undeniable. Jesus fulfilled ALL in one generation!

[@wisevirgin3405]

La Lumiere..... ------------------- While it is true the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" begins when God takes the "Kingdom of God" (Holy Spirit) away from the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" and gives it to the New Testament "church"... ----------------- Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, the KINGDOM OF GOD shall be TAKEN from you [TAKEN from the Jewish Kingdom], and it was GIVEN to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof [and then it was GIVEN to the 3rd Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"] ------------------ It's also true that there is a significant period of time... with the fulfillment of many prophetic "signs" never known before the end of the Great Commission. ------------------ In fact it is very simple to PROVE Great Tribulation events were never understood (much less fulfilled) at 70AD... or in any period during the Great Commission. Because there are (literally) dozens of passages that contradict that notion and several passages that specifically PROMISE the fulfillment of Daniel's Abomination and end-time events COULD NOT be known until after the destruction of the Revelation Beasts(s)​. -------------------- In other words, prophetic "signs" regarding Daniel's prophecies and the fulfillment of Great Tribulation events were PROMISED to remain "closed-up" and "sealed" [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]... until the Last Saints, who also "see" the fulfillment of Great Tribulation "signs" [Mat 24:15 and 24:33] ---------------------- Here is a link discussing some of these matters: www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-4 --------------------- Note, that is to chapter four of the little book. You should read chapters 1-3 and you should see Daniel's "Abomination" revealed in chapter 8 ---------------------- If you can find even ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts anything revealed on that website I will immediately delete the entire site. ---------------------- But be warned... this information has already been tested by some of the most esteemed theologians teaching in some of the most prestigious seminaries in American... and NONE of them could find a single contradiction. (See "Recipient's" page). ---------------------- I invite you (and your church) to try to do better. -----------------------

[@reformedcatholic457]

You're a French Huguenot, right? Where are you living, in France or outside of France?

[@lalumierehuguenote]

@@reformedcatholic457 i am a Huguenot only in spirit. I have no descent from those people. I live in France and around. And by the way nice profile picture! I consider giving my son a composed name that includes ?Martyr, if wife can be convinced

[@rantebatti2009]

While you flee, some city will admit you. While of that some people of the city will believe in Jesus. Moreover one generation becoming believe in Jesus

[@leefury7]

Limiting yourself to only what Jesus taught on the end times is not advisable because it wasn't until later that the "mystery" (i.e. previously undisclosed) was disclosed to Paul. Also, the Church was not even disclosed. So how can you formulate an eschatological position based solely on what Jesus taught? If we do that then we have no rapture, only the 2nd Advent.

[@leefury7]

@royal priest Well won't you be surprised. But if you want to stick around, I say go for it. Me? I'm out of here. You're waiting for the advent of the Antichrist while I'm waiting for the real thing, Jesus Christ.

[@waldemirmagalhaes4576]

Soli Deo Gloria.

[@malcolmandrews4942]

Don't worry about Bertrand Russell and his insistence on what was the meaning of Christ's words. The fact is that the apostle Peter, a far better interpreter, wrote that the fulfillment of Christ's prophesied return would be a long time into the future (at least as men reckon time). He also used a key principle to interpret Christ's prophesy of His soon return-- "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." A short time for men may be a few days or a few decades; But with God it is all the same-- so that 2,000 years is a very short time from God's perspective. The very fact that the apostle Peter says that mockers would come in the last days who would focus on what they believe to be an unfulfilled prophesy, teaches us that the apostle interpreted Christ's words far differently than how Russell and other critics have interpreted them. Which is what we should expect since "the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." We should not allow the skepticism of the godless to be the driving force of how we interpret the Scriptures. So there's my 2 cents. Jesus shall most certainly return in a short time. 2,000 years= 20 one hundred years. A baby born in AD33 lives to one hundred years old, and just as he is dying another baby is born and lives to a hundred years old--- and so on until around only 20 babies have been born and died in 2,000 years. The first baby grown to be 100 could-- given the right circumstances-- just before he dies, literally touch the hand of a newborn baby that lives to be 100, and then the process could repeat until the 20th baby has been born-- bringing the line up to today. That first baby would only be separated from today's baby in 2023, by 19 babies.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Holy youtube manifesto Batman this creep thinks people stay up all night reading his rants haha

[@robinmp8300]

Bertrand russell forgets and omits the fact that Jesus communicates in many different ways, answers prayers and provides things that we pray for! OBVIOUSLY he has not had a personal interaction with Jesus.

[@notwnotofthisworld8022]

I have an assignment on Escatology Which says people said not to focus ok Escatology and its no so important because it doesnt gave a right and perfect clear information . What do you think about this?

[@notwnotofthisworld8022]

Should i defend the context or disagree with it

[@democratpro]

Eschatology is ENORMOUSLY important because if you think the world is ending tomorrow and you'll be teleported out before any tribulation, you quit. If you believe the world has another 10,000 years, you think completely differently. Apologia and crosspolitic changed my mind on the issue. I used to think it wasn't a big deal....boy was I wrong.

[@democratpro]

@@notwnotofthisworld8022 gary demar is another guy who helped educate me and change my incorrect viewpoint on it. RC, too.

[@hisglory3168]

Watch Dr. Kenneth Gentry's teaching on KZbin called "The beast of Revelation" so you will understand the partial preterist view of eschotology.

[@nevarezomar]

I have been reading about all the positions on eschatology and I take many good things to conceal. I agree with partial preterism in the sense of the events in the 70aD as a fullfillment of Mathew 24 and because this position leaves the door open for the visible coming of the Lord. WhatI wont ever agree with is the total preterism because it breaks other systems of theology such as Christology to begin with, which is not negotiable. Also, because it tends to behave as a subliminal type of Gnosticism.

[@hisglory3168]

@@nevarezomar Yes I agree with you on Full/Total preterism as heresy. Dr. Ken Gentry and R.C Sproul are Partial preterists and they agree that Full preterism is heresy.

[@eliseolopez6504]

Eschatology is facts that proof the bible

[@JCneverFails]

Hermeneutics Playbook of Calvanists: Firstly create a boogeyman of people who criticize the credibility of both Christ and the bible and secondly find 3 "problematic" texts that support your position yet contradict multiple others because of a presupposition instead of letting many texts define the few "problematic." Smh.

[@amysteinkamp]

Yes!! This!!! Thank you!!

[@williamiannucci2740]

FAITH is a GIFT People it can't be worked for or earned but when one comes to one's ownself and realizes he or she can't in no wise SAVE ones ownself then that person is ready to be SAVED and Sanctified and molded into the likeness of God's only Son and as that happens that person by the Word of TRUTH becomes FREE. Praise Glory and Honor to you Almighty God and Father for making others and even mine ownself like thine only begotten which makes all the called and choosen a peculiar people which are called by your name . I Love you Jesus for being our Christ . Selah SHALOM. God bless ISRAEL for he really is real. 👍

[@josephrohland5604]

Faith is just believing everything you're told.

[@ernieandrews7632]

What about the new cities in Israel

[@emmanuelmakoba6085]

Jesus is a prophet - that must be accepted without acting like that is a "mere" thing.

[@timdavis6088]

The two scriptures given by the critics are manipulated to appear as false. Context from Matthew 10:23 is removed as Jesus is clearly talking about the coming persecution of His disciples and what they would face in the coming years. This is NOT a prediction for the Last Days. Matthew 10 does not deal with eschatology at all. It involves Jesus' instructions to His disciples. In Mark 13:30 Jesus is referring to "this (future) generation" as He is clearly speaking about eschatology. So Jesus is looking forward and pointing to this future generation. Not the current generation He is speaking to. Context matters! Liars remove context on purpose.

[@rogerweir1772]

The whole Bible from Genesis to Revelation is prophetic....

[@thedemonhunter805]

I recommend everyone check out Pastor Charles Lawson from Temple Baptist Church in Knoxville Tennessee He is truly the best preacher in the world 🌎

[@alexkelley385]

This would be your preference of course since there is no means to objectively evaluate who is best.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@alexkelley385 hes trying to start a cult by pirating off a famous person Common practice

[@josephrohland5604]

This is the best summation I have to date... FROM: Michael Bradley (with THANKS to Ron Schofield)

[@MAC-vl7by]

Guide for the last days events. God gave me this Jeremiah 31:9:14

[@Tom-jx9te]

RC Sproul was a great man of God and theologian, but I hold a view in which Jesus spoke of an already (within the first century) and a not-yet (a truly eschatological) meaning to his prophecies.

[@barrygaynor1025]

There is no crisis in eschatology. There is only a crisis in people not reading and studying and understanding the Scriptures. And that's an old, old problem.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Thrre is utube retahds like you hahahaa

[@tonycevallos7513]

Too bad he did not elaborate at the end.

[@rathnaitmullen8541]

Which KJ bible do you recommend with no alterations?

[@aminkhalil]

fast forward to 14:30. I'm 13 mins in and he hasn't said anything about eschatology.

[@nrg753]

Oh man I can't like the video because it's on 665 likes. If I like it someone with a different eschatology will think it's a bad sign 🤦‍♂️.

[@artistcaleb]

LOL 19 hours later I read your comment and sure enough it's still 665, I have two different accounts, I'll take it up past the 13th floor.

[@nrg753]

@@artistcaleb awesome I liked it too haha 😆

[@kinematthewdelacruz9525]

🤣🤣🤣

[@aeiou9957]

dude i feel that lol

[@willyhillydude]

😄 that was pretty funny 👍

[@carolmueller3191]

Didn't Jesus tell Christians to pray for God's Kingdom to come and for His will to be done on earth as it is in heaven? Matthew 6:9,10! God's Kingdom is a heavenly government ruled by Jesus Christ as King. Soon Jesus will bring beautiful changes to the earth. There will be no more death, pain or sorrow on earth, Revelation 21:4,5. No more wickedness on earth, Psalms 37:9-11! After Armageddon the meek will inherit the earth and live forever on it, Psalms 37:29; Matthew 5:5; Proverbs 2:21,22. The earth will be cultivated into a Paradise like God intended in the beginning, Genesis 1:28; Isaiah 55:11! Jesus will do on a grand scale what he did when he walked the earth including raising those who are asleep in death, John 5:28,29! There will only be one government ruling over mankind forever , Daniel 2:44! Jesus said that this good news of the Kingdom would be preached about in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end, Armageddon, will come! Soon Jesus will make sure that God's Will is done on earth as it is in heaven, will you be there to see it? John 4:22-24; John 17:3; Isaiah 42:8!

[@williamgragilla7007]

I disagree with his assessment that higher critique of the Bible comes from eschatology. It almost certainly comes from Genesis.

[@janetwebb1507]

Theology: The Study of GOD ( Theo) + ology: study of

[@jimm714]

RC Sproul was a great student of the Bible and follower of Jesus Christ. Nonetheless, his take on Biblical eschatology, in that many future things have happened already in the first century, is woefully flawed. However, one must test teaching/preaching by Scripture and then agree or disagree.

[@georgeschlaline6057]

Long story short He's coming

[@douglaidlaw740]

What has happened, that these preachers are at last looking at what JESUS said, instead of Noah or St John the Divine? And why does bringing Jesus in, create a crisis? Becase they have been wrong for so long. Eschatology is for training preachers. Jesus reduced the Commandments to only 2, and these guys are trying to convert them into rules just as comprehensive as the Pentateuch. I prefer Azimov's method, which may be easier for us ordinary people: "Never let your sense of morality (or eschatology or anything else) get in the way of doing what's right."

[@tkordik]

Let's all argue about who's right. Hint: there is no prize for winning.

[@5crownsoutreach]

Eschatology is the most important subject of the entire Bible, and John was very clear about that, too, which is the inclusio of the entire Book of Revelation: Rev 1:3; 22:7--"Keep the words of this prophecy." Why? because it unites the entire biblical witness. RC Sproul gave many benefits to the Church in his ministry, but, sadly, eschatology was not one of them.

[@yunowot]

i'm not sure why we spend so much time worrying about the views of unbelievers as a reason for redefining or amending the interpretation of the scriptures. Personally, I could not care less what satan's servants think.

[@DogSoldier1948]

Depends on Christ meaning of his return. He died and returned in that time period. The day of Pentecost could be considered a return of Christ in spirit. Phl 1:19 KJV - 19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,

[@DogSoldier1948]

@Desheny Christel AsherGalatians 4:6 ESV And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father He returned in Spirit One of the most convincing statements in the Bible about the Holy Spirit being God is found in Acts 5. When Ananias lied about the price of a piece of property, Peter said that Satan had filled Ananias’s heart to “lie to the Holy Spirit” (Acts 5:3) and concluded by saying that Ananias had “lied to God” (verse 4). Peter reveals that the Holy Spirit is God.

[@docbrown7513]

The reason there is a crisis of credibility usually starts with 2 issues, pre-tribulation rapture and dispensational theology. This arises because of the tendency to exchange complicated academic treatment, instead of concentrating on unifying the entirety of scripture.

[@CathyStanley-cu4es]

Mm

[@Matt-vk9sb]

I generally love R.C. Sproul, but he was completely out to lunch on his eschatology. Sproul gave way too much credence to defensively answering the arguments of the "critics" and way too little to the literal reading of Scripture (Mt 24, Mk 13, Lk 21, Rv, Daniel, etc). The overwhelming eschatological position of the first and second century believers (Polycarp, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, etc) was that of [non-dispensational] "Classical Premillennialism" (i.e., Post-Tribulation Rapture, Pre-Millennial church history [time of the Gentiles]). These three men in particular believed the following: 1. That a future (third) temple would exist at the Time of the End 2. That Daniel's 70th week was yet to be fulfilled 3. That Antichrist would be an actual individual man (not an 'office' [like the papacy]) who would rule during Daniel's 70th week. 4. That the saints (Christians -- Jewish & Gentile believes) would endure the full brunt of the Antichrist's persecution. They would not be raptured away prior to Daniel's 70th week. 5. That the Thousand Year Reign of Christ would be a literal earthly kingdom happening in the future over a period of one thousand literal years, and that the inhabitants of that kingdom would include both Jew and Gentile Keep in mind that these three men wrote their eschatological thoughts AFTER the destruction of the Herod's Temple in 70 AD. And, Revelation was written after the destruction of the temple. The preterists will try to twist Irenaeus' writings to somehow state that Revelation was written before the temple's destruction, but I believe that they completely butcher his grammar on that. Preterism is an invention of the Jesuits formulated in the late 16th and early 17th centuries. The Jesuits were [and are] violently anti-scriptural and thus any theology they put out is highly suspect. I'll take Polycarp (a direct disciple of John the Revelator) over the Jesuits any day of the week.

[@aeiou9957]

you say preterism was invented by the jesuits. So was "futurism". You say RC spent too much time entertaining the critics ideas and that he should simply focus on the "literal" interpretation of the bible. that's exactly what the critics were doing and that's how they came up to the conclusion that palestinian christianity was deeply apocalyptic and expecting the end within their lifetime. preterism simply attempts to form a different conclusion of the "literal" reading of those verses. personally, i think it's a fools game to try and make the entire bible cohere with a "literal" interpretation. but i am just a fart against the hurricane that is modern evangelical end-time delusion.

[@aeiou9957]

also, you mention that the church fathers believed in a third temple? please give evidence; that's baffling. where do you get your scripture regarding the necessity of a "third temple"? we know that we are temples per new testament. and jesus refers to himself as the temple. what is the reason for not understanding paul to be referring to ecclesiastical authority or something like that? why does it always go back to land and jewish temples with you premillennialists?

[@mikecara3271]

Nonsense

[@Antesdelfinadmin]

Here's what happened. Like Jesus promised, he came back soon after his crucifixion and resurrection. He reigned for 1000 years starting around year 70 AD. The Bible promised he would reign for 1000 years and after that... (Quote): Rev. 20:2-3 "And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. " So, most people who lived in that millennium with Christ as king left with him and a few that didn't like it, were left behind. Then, God gave the kingdom to the devil for" a little season " to tempt the nations again. Rev. 20 As of that great disappearance, or reset, we are living the days of the" little season ". In order to re populate the world, either there was a great resurrection of people who in the past died without knowing about Jesus or Satan mass produced children in an unspecified manner (Rev 20:1-5). But here's the best part: And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Preterists needed what we have found with this erased history, mudflood and Tartary phenomenon in order to make sense of their correct yet incomplete interpretation. Jesus ruled and reigned for 1000 literal years and Rev 20 had a literal fulfillment. We are now living in the little season of Rev. 20. Get your act together Preterists. People need your side of the story to make sense of all this information coming out!!

[@Sam-fp8zm]

early christians were killed in the first few centuries ad.... jesus wasnt reigning with them... my belief is everything up until and including rev 13 has happened. rev 13 is the next thing to happen. Its israel and the mark of the beast is the star of david.

[@kathleenwharton2139]

If You Seek Jesus..He Saves and Frees You from ALL Religionists.

[@jacoba4669]

Let GOD be true , and every man a liar.. Roman 3:4. This is the answer to puny man who is not honest in doubt.

[@mimilovesjesus1307]

Truth is not determined by the doubts of scepticism.... Not sure what his point is.

[@TheJuan3123]

I agree he was in circles just circles

[@lillyhall645]

You will not find Him if you doubt!

[@mimilovesjesus1307]

@@lillyhall645 agreed. His message was intellectually based. Truth is revealed through humility is my point.

[@lillyhall645]

Thks for that!

[@onetakendotnet]

Pre-freak eschatology 1 Thes 4:13-17 is the second coming with a resurrection. Luke 17 one taken, one left is the pre-trib rapture without a resurrection (verse 37). The pre-trib rapture happens before the wicked start to freak out (Luke 21:26).

[@democratpro]

There is no pre-trib rapture. That's the ONLY part of eschatology i'm confident about understanding. That's a very new, false position.

[@EBRoyJr]

Luke 17:37 Jesus states that those taken are taken to destruction, not everlasting life. And Matthew 13 in the parable of the wheat and tares Jesus teaches the wicked are taken first.

[@onetakendotnet]

@@EBRoyJr thanks for the reply. The Greek word “will be taken” means to take and receive, not take and destroy. There will be little eating, drinking, buying, selling, planting, building and getting married at the second coming.

[@EBRoyJr]

@@onetakendotnet umm...Sorry, Jesus said the will be eating, drinking marrying and giving in marriage when he returns. There's nothing saying "little." In other words, people will be living their lives and not looking or expecting his coming.

[@onetakendotnet]

@@EBRoyJreverybody will be hiding in a cave (Rev 6:15-17) and freaking out (Luke 21:26) at the second coming.

[@linwoodkent1246]

Rightly dividing the Word of Truth???????

[@Jesus.loves.you.123]

Pastor, I haven't watched the rest of the series yet, but I want to say that, what Jesus referred to about His Kingdom was when the first church was established by Apostle Paul and people called themselves Christians in Antioch. That's when Christianity was started, and Jesus's Kingdom was established. The time between Jesus making that statement and the establishment of the first church was around 40 years, while some of the people were still alive. After the first church was set up and His Kingdom (Christianity) was established, Jesus came into His Kingdom with Glory. Jesus's Kingdom has grown into a population of 2 billion worldwide nowadays. A true Kingdom, and Jesus is the King of His Kingdom, and Christians are His people. The Rule of Laws of His Kingdom are listed in the Bible.

[@joshuatheo1419]

There are not 2 billion Christians, majority of those in that number are catholic heretics.

[@Jesus.loves.you.123]

@@joshuatheo1419 According to Jesus's parable of seeds, only 25% Christians in the Christian population are qualified Christians in Jesus's criteria. 25% of 2 billions are still half of a billion, not a small number.

[@wisevirgin3405]

Of course you do not understand that the BIBLE teaches there are four (4) temporal Kingdoms... which Jesus specifically NAMED as "Kingdoms of Heaven" before the establishment of the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven". See Scriptures below: --------------------- In Mat 22:2 Jesus NAMES the Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 13 (8 verses) Jesus NAMES the Christian 'kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 25:1 Jesus NAMES the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" The (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is DIFFERENT than any of the others because it contains ONLY the saved "wheat" and NONE of the unsaved "tares" from EACH "Kingdom" and is NAMED in Matthew 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. ---------------------- www.5thKingdomofHeaven.com ----------------------

[@KennethNicholson1972]

@@wisevirgin3405 Dear friend, I have read your website research and I believe we are in the last days before Christ returns. However I admit I am both confused and worried. Does this mean that nobody in this age can be saved? Am I decieved into believing I am saved in Christ? And who was the anti christ that suffered the fateful wound?

[@Sam-fp8zm]

Good comments man. Got any more writings?

[@Aneocs]

im a 70 ad believer. Christ did come in Clouds of Glory the same kind as in Isa 19. The Jews were destroyed forever more. God is respected as Holy. Mark 9:1

[@yerasmus4025]

Matthew 24 was fulfilled in 70 AD at the end of the Old Covenant age, but it is being fulfilled in parralel now again at the end of the church age. At the end of both these ages comes judgment of the Old, ushering in the new. Wake up people, time is short, the rapture will happen, and many are deceived and will deeply regret it later if you are not watching and praying NOW!

[@wisevirgin3405]

Jason... ------------------- While it is true the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" begins when God takes the "Kingdom of God" (Holy Spirit) away from the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" and gives it to the New Testament "church"... ----------------- Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, the KINGDOM OF GOD shall be TAKEN from you [TAKEN from the Jewish Kingdom], and it was GIVEN to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof [and then it was GIVEN to the 3rd Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"] ------------------ It's also true that there is a significant period of time... with the fulfillment of many prophetic "signs" never known before the end of the Great Commission. ------------------ In fact it is very simple to PROVE Great Tribulation events were never understood (much less fulfilled) at 70AD... or in any period during the Great Commission. Because there are (literally) dozens of passages that contradict that notion and several passages that specifically PROMISE the fulfillment of Daniel's Abomination and end-time events COULD NOT be known until after the destruction of the Revelation Beasts(s)​. -------------------- In other words, prophetic "signs" regarding Daniel's prophecies and the fulfillment of Great Tribulation events were PROMISED to remain "closed-up" and "sealed" [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]... until the Last Saints, who also "see" the fulfillment of Great Tribulation "signs" [Mat 24:15 and 24:33] ---------------------- Here is a link discussing some of these matters: www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-4 --------------------- Note, that is to chapter four of the little book. You should read chapters 1-3 and you should see Daniel's "Abomination" revealed in chapter 8 ---------------------- If you can find even ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts anything revealed on that website I will immediately delete the entire site. ---------------------- But be warned... this information has already been tested by some of the most esteemed theologians teaching in some of the most prestigious seminaries in American... and NONE of them could find a single contradiction. (See "Recipient's" page). ---------------------- I invite you (and your church) to try to do better. -----------------------

[@Aneocs]

@@wisevirgin3405 I thank you for trying to respond, but what you wrote will not stand. I do not blame you, but I do blame the teachers that have influenced you. I would ask you to go examine a few things for yourself: 1. Daniel wrote about end times. No one disagrees with that. Please see Daniel 2:40-45, notice whatever Daniel is talking about ends in the days of the 4th Kingdom. That's the Roman period, facts matter. 2. Daniel further tells us the temple and the holy city will be destroyed. Daniel 9:5,11,20,26-27.According to Daniel (not me or any other man), who sinned and broke the covenant of God? Ask yourself, did Daniel mention a church? (If so, cite the verse.) No he did not. Church is not even a Greek word. All scholars agree that there is not one word about a church age in the Old Testament. The fact remains that there are only two ages taught in scriptures. Moses and the Age to Come, which has no end -- and in which, we are living today; in Christ, Praise God! 3. Dan 12:1, At that time Michael shall stand up,The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;And there shall be a time of trouble,Such as never was since there was a nation,Even to that time.And at that time your people shall be delivered,Every one who is found written in the book. In verse one who are the sons of your people? Daniel was a Jew, notice, it doesn't mention a church or church age.6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long shall the fulfillment of these wonders be?”7 Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished.6-7 This is key to everyone's understanding... In verse 6 notice, "How long shall the fulfillment of these wonders be?" This is what the Angel answered in verse 7. Notice, "and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished”. Who are the holy people here in Daniel 12? See Dan 12:1 for the answer. Now you have a problem with your futurist view, because Daniel the prophet said all will be completed. That includes the resurrection mentioned in vs 2. "When the power of the holy people was shattered” vs 7, which happened in 70 AD, both the temple and people were taken away. See the Arch of Titus for even more proof. The resurrection was spiritual; just like the death in the garden was spiritual, not a physical one (Gen 2:17;3:5/Rom 5:12). 4. Regarding Matt 24 it’s important to note this is a parallel chapter to Mark 13 and Luke 21. In the Mark account, the reader will learn that this was a private conversation between 4 disciples and Christ. Mk 13:3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew were questioning Him privately, 4“Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign when all these things are going to be fulfilled?”Notice they asked him two questions: 1.when will these things be 2. what will be the sign when all these things are going to be fulfilled. We see in Matt 23 Jesus tells everyone that He's holding that generation accountable for all the righteous blood shed on earth Matt 23:35. Notice verse 36, “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation”. Audience relevance matters! Again Jesus himself says in Matt 24:34, Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all things take place. How many things will take place in that generation according to Matt 23:36 and Matt 24:34? Also bare in mind, chapter and verse notations were added in the 1400's. Do not be deceived by them. Jesus is still talking about the same thing He was in Chapter 23. He told them all, “behold your house will be left desolate“ Matt 23:38/Dan 9:26-27. That house is the temple! That is the whole context of chapter 24. Go read those two chapters again with that in mind. 5. Furthermore, Matt wrote Jesus only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, see Matt 10:6, Matt 15:24. And you are trying desperately to apply Matt 24 to us today! You cannot sir, You can claim it but that doesn't make it true. Facts Matter.The gentiles did not come into the kingdom until Acts 10, Period... If anyone applies Matt to themselves today (in regards to people in 2020) they are sadly going to be very disappointed, never seeing any of what they think is going to happen. This was written by a Jew, for Jews, 2000 years ago. We can learn from it, but it wasn't written to us today.Let’s take Matt 24:15-16. The Jews must “run to the mountains of Judea to be saved when you see ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION...” The "you" are Jews only, not gentiles. IF anyone, scholar or not, claims otherwise, let them prove it with Scripture. They will not be able to find any proof. Also Daniel did not write to gentiles! Again Matt did not write to Gentiles! Matt 24:20, “Pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or Sabbath…”, yet again, more Jewish terms. See Neh 13:19 for the reason why they should pray it wouldn't happen on a Sabbath! Your obvious beyond help with that list of schools and men you have self proclaimed about yourself. The scriptures have a few things to say about someone like yourself. 1. Proverbs 18:17 The first to plead his case seems right, Until another comes and examines him.2. John 5:31 If I alone bear witness about myself, my testimony is not true.

[@wisevirgin3405]

@@Aneocs .... Child, I will make this very simple for you. ------------ First... Daniel's Fourth Beast was NOT Rome (or any physical empire) because Daniel 7:11-12 reveals that AFTER the fourth Beast is "given to the Burning Flame" the remaining Beasts still "have their live prolonged for a SEASON AND TIME". Since the fourth Beast being "given to the Burning Flame" is the EXACT same event as the False Prophet and Revelation Beast being "cast into the Lake of Fire"... we know absolutely that Daniel's fourth Kingdom/Beast could not be a physical empire because nobody is preaching that the Babylonian empire or the Persian Empire of the Greek empire continues to exist on earth AFTER the fourth Beast is "cast into the Lake of Fire" [Rev 19:20] ------------ Secondly... and this is just so naive of you... you do not even realize that Daniel's Fourth Beast is also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast... and as the Great Tribulation Kingdom... and as the reign of the "Anti-Christ"... and as Satan's "Little Season". --------------- In other words, the PEOPLE living in Daniel's fourth Beast are the SAME PEOPLE living in the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living in the Great Tribulation and the SAME PEOPLE ruled by the Anti-Christ and they are the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season". And we know this absolutely because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns. ------------------ Let me say this another way child... the Bible PROMISES that Daniel's prophecies remain "closed-up" and "sealed" until they are revealed (and preached) by the Last Saints during the end-of-time (or the Season and Time) after the destruction of the Fourth Beast. [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10] However, your "notion" that the fourth Beast was Rome was NOT "sealed" at all... it has been preached as the false doctrine that it is for most of the Christian Kingdom -------------------- So.... either God is telling a fairy tale (or LIE) about Daniel's prophecies remaining "sealed"... or your notion is already PROVEN to be wrong (because it contradicts Scripture). --------------- So far we have seen (1) that you do not understand that Daniel 7:11-12 and Rev 19:20 immediately disprove your theory and (2) you don't understand the PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast are shown in MANY other passages of Scripture. In Daniel 7 they are called the ten "horns" and the ten "kings"... in Rev 17 they are also called the ten "horns" and the ten "kings" (who AGREE to give their KINGDOM to the Revelation Beast) and in Mat 25 they are called the ten "virgins". -------------------- Please read chapter 1 to see the "Season and Time" Please read chapter 2 & 3 to see the five "Kingdoms" Please read chapter 4 to learn about new information Please read chapter 6 to learn about the "Kingdom of God" Please read chapter 7 to learn about "Babylon the Great" Please read chapter 8 to see Daniel's "Abomination" -------------------- Frankly, it is just RUDE of you to be asking me questions that are ALREADY ANSWERED on the website - which I have provided you links for. ------------------------------------ www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-1 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/ www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-3 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-4 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-6 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-7 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8 ---------------------------------------------- Having already shown you that Rome could NOT be the fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" on earth... and having already shown you the fourth Beast is also shown in many other passages... and having already shown you that the PEOPLE living in the Fourth Beast are shown in many other passages and having already shown you that the PEOPLE from the Babylonian and Persian and Greek empires do NOT continue to exist for a "Season and Time" on earth AFTER the PEOPLE in the fourth Kingdom have been "given to the Burning Flame" and "cast into the Lake of Fire"... ------------------ And knowing that you understand NOTHING about the four "watches of the night" or the time AFTER the Second Woe is PAST but BEFORE the Third Woe begins [Rev 11:14] or the fact the Last Saints are commanded to "prophesy again" (about all these subjects and more) as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound"... Knowing all that I would respectfully request that you actually READ the answer to all your questions (and to questions you don't even have) before you request that I write the AGAIN especially for you. ---------------------- Let me say this another way.... If you can find even ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts anything on the website I will immediately delete the entire website.... just go and read it first. ----------------------- However, I will warn you that (literally) HUNDREDS of the most esteemed theologians teaching at some of the most prestigious seminaries in America have already read this information and NONE OF THEM were able to find even ONE VERSE in the Bible to contradict anything on the site. ------------------------ I invite you (no, I challenge you AND your church) to try to do better than these theologians (see the "Recipient's page" for a list of their names and seminaries) ------------------------- I look forward to speaking with you again when you have been able to find just ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts anything on the website. ---------------------------

[@wisevirgin3405]

It was very disappointing to see that Sproul does not even "reveal" that the PEOPLE living in the Revelation Beast are the SAME people living during the Great Tribulation and the SAME people living during Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME people living during the reign of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and the SAME people called the "ten virgins" [Mat 25:1-13] or the SAME people living during Satan's "Little Season" and the SAME people of Dan 2:44 living when the Eternal Kingdom is established. -------------- And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in EACH case) they are the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns. In other words... they are the LAST "wheat and tares" on earth. You can BEGIN to learn more in chapter 1.2 and 1.3 (below) ------------------ www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-1 -------------------

[@victorcritelli5790]

So sad, This Generation in its grammatical sense clearly was the generation that sees the signs is the THIS generation, Honestly, I could mow this another way on how generation is used in the bible and how it was used in other parts of the gospels and the letters, But after much study, You just can't escape the context of the statement, Yet he needs to appease the atheists and appease the world There are 2 other scripture that might be a debated This generation is not one of them and It cost Many many other scriptures to deal with the greyness of 2 scriptures, Literally, rip away the interconnected scripture we have in daniel gospels rev, and thess 1 and 2 and Peter to appease In Fact, every explanation of the AOD is FAR weaker than the explanation I have for the 2 scripture I have in question And what Tribulation that never was before and never again If these days were not cut short no flesh would survive Hyperbole?????? This does far more damage to the trustworthiness of Gods word then any claim By Bertrand Russell

[@leecoffman9185]

Pp

[@jaxondabeastz2046]

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[@toddmcrae3834]

The book of revelation was written in 90AD and uses futuristic language. I dont think it's about the events of 70AD

[@wisevirgin3405]

Todd Mcrae....... ----------------------------- While it is true the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" begins when God takes the "Kingdom of God" (the Holy Spirit) away from the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" and gives it to the "church"... ----------------- Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, the KINGDOM OF GOD shall be TAKEN from you [TAKEN from the Jewish Kingdom], and it was GIVEN to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof [and then it was GIVEN to the 3rd Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"] ------------------ It's also true that there is a significant period of time... with the fulfillment of many prophetic "signs" never known before the end of the Great Commission. ------------------ In fact it is very simple to PROVE Great Tribulation events were never understood (much less fulfilled) at 70AD... or in any period during the Great Commission. Because there are (literally) dozens of passages that contradict that notion and several passages that specifically PROMISE the fulfillment of Daniel's Abomination and end-time events COULD NOT be known until after the destruction of the Revelation Beasts(s)​. -------------------- In other words, prophetic "signs" regarding Daniel's prophecies and the fulfillment of Great Tribulation events were PROMISED to remain "closed-up" and "sealed" [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]... until the Last Saints, who also "see" the fulfillment of Great Tribulation "signs" [Mat 24:15 and 24:33] ---------------------- Here is a link discussing some of these matters: www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-4 --------------------- Note, that is to chapter four of the little book. You should read chapters 1-3 and you should see Daniel's "Abomination" revealed in chapter 8 ---------------------- If you can find even ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts anything revealed on that website I will immediately delete the entire site. ---------------------- But be warned... this information has already been tested by some of the most esteemed theologians teaching in some of the most prestigious seminaries in American... and NONE of them could find a single contradiction. (See "Recipient's" page). ---------------------- I invite you (and your church) to try to do better. -----------------------

[@toddmcrae3834]

@@wisevirgin3405 I dont understand anything you said

[@wisevirgin3405]

@@toddmcrae3834 ... That was always foretold --------------- Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. ---------------- www.5thKingdomofHeaven.com -----------------

[@Nobo35]

todd mcrae it was written in the early 60’s AD. The claim that it was written after 70AD is based on a comment Irenaeus made over 100 years after all this happened.

[@toddmcrae3834]

@@Nobo35 No, almost all historians and the tradition of the church agree revelation was written after 70 AD. The Book of Revelation is placed at the end of the Bible for a reason.

[@AhavatYeshua]

“Thank you” R. C. Sproul for adding fuel to the fire of this crisis. Much damage you have done to the Body of Christ. I’m sure by now you regret it.

[@jonathanwithers1793]

Flesh that out. In what way has he damaged the body? I've met multiple people who were stuck in lukewarm-ness who were broken out by God through this ministry, including myself. I'm not saying this angrily but I am genuinely curious about your position

[@AhavatYeshua]

@@jonathanwithers1793 I’m not speaking against your personal experience with the ministry of R.C. Sproul and the positive impact it had on you. I’ve shared my thoughts on the topic of eschatology taught by Sproul and the ramifications which follow from it. To name a few, not taking eschatological passages of Scripture literally, over spiritualizing the text, where there’s no necessity to do so and therefore painting whole different picture about the future. Another HUGE issue with Sproul is his replacement theology. Big deal and big mistake. I read his books and at one point was listening to him consistently, until the realization came; he’s such a staunch defender of the inerrancy of Scripture and yet he doesn’t take it at its value. When is comes to Israelology and eschatology, there’s a very sloppy and dishonest approach. The damage is in breading biblical ignorance among believers on those important topics.

[@mimishella4915]

Context. Context. Context. Read Luke 21 where this scripture is noted. He describes a time when Jerusalem will be surrounded. He then talks of a fig tree. In the Bible the fig tree is always represented as a fig tree. He means that THIS generation, the one who sees Jerusalem surrounded (after rapture, before Armagedon) will see the return of Jesus in His Second Coming to judge all the Earth.

[@JohnDoe-le8fy]

That is just a complete twisting of "Context" as you fail to include the entire CONTEXT of what they are talking about, which is judgement upon Old Covenant Israel which the Temple they walked out of and Christ had just admonished the apostate Jews for their wicked sins and murdering God's prophets and his Son, that Temple symbolized Old Covenant Israel. Everything that comes after that is about THAT EVENT! So no, you can't just rip out a verse towards the end of the chapter and claim the fig tree represented a group of people thousands of years into the future. If you knew history, you would know Luke 21 and Matthew 24 happened EXACTLY as Christ predicted and the Roman armies encompassed Jerusalem lead by Vespasian and Titus. Now how are the Christians suppose to head Christ words and flee the city once the city is surrounded? Well HISTORICALLY the Caesar died at the very time and word had got back to Vespasian and his soldiers wanted him to go to Rome to take over as Caesar so they retreated their forces from around Jerusalem while they discussed how to proceed... History records the Christians in Jerusalem heeded Christ warnings and FLED the City and were saved from it's Judgement.....

[@wisevirgin3405]

Shella... ------------------- While it is true the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" begins when God takes the "Kingdom of God" (Holy Spirit) away from the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" and gives it to the New Testament "church"... ----------------- Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, the KINGDOM OF GOD shall be TAKEN from you [TAKEN from the Jewish Kingdom], and it was GIVEN to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof [and then it was GIVEN to the 3rd Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"] ------------------ It's also true that there is a significant period of time... with the fulfillment of many prophetic "signs" never known before the end of the Great Commission. ------------------ In fact it is very simple to PROVE Great Tribulation events were never understood (much less fulfilled) at 70AD... or in any period during the Great Commission. Because there are (literally) dozens of passages that contradict that notion and several passages that specifically PROMISE the fulfillment of Daniel's Abomination and end-time events COULD NOT be known until after the destruction of the Revelation Beasts(s)​. -------------------- In other words, prophetic "signs" regarding Daniel's prophecies and the fulfillment of Great Tribulation events were PROMISED to remain "closed-up" and "sealed" [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]... until the Last Saints, who also "see" the fulfillment of Great Tribulation "signs" [Mat 24:15 and 24:33] ---------------------- Here is a link discussing some of these matters: www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-4 --------------------- Note, that is to chapter four of the little book. You should read chapters 1-3 and you should see Daniel's "Abomination" revealed in chapter 8 ---------------------- If you can find even ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts anything revealed on that website I will immediately delete the entire site. ---------------------- But be warned... this information has already been tested by some of the most esteemed theologians teaching in some of the most prestigious seminaries in American... and NONE of them could find a single contradiction. (See "Recipient's" page). ---------------------- I invite you (and your church) to try to do better. -----------------------

[@evanu6579]

Matt 23: 34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. Who was Jesus talking to when He said this?.... Luk 21: 9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by. Why does He say when YOU shall hear of wars rather than when THEY shall hear of wars? Luk 21: 12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. 13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony. 14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: Who would this happen to? To the disciples He was talking to or some people 2000 plus years into the future? Luk 21: 20 ¶ And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Who will see Jerusalem compassed with armies? Luk 21: 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Who is told to look up?

[@wisevirgin3405]

@@evanu6579 ... in the passage you quoted it is the LAST SAINTS on earth (the only who "see all these things" [Mat 24:33] that are told to "look up" for the Lord's Return. ------------ Make no mistake, the Bible talks about the LAST SAINTS on earth in MANY different passages. In fact, in Mat 25:1-13 the Bible NAMES the Last Saints the "wise virgins" living during the reign of the Anti-Christ and Revelation Beast during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven". ---------------- These Last Saints are also mentioned in Daniel 2:44 as those being alive when the Eternal Kingdom begins. ------------------ These Last Saints are also mentioned in Daniel 7 as those being alive when the Eternal Kingdom begins. ------------------- These Last Saints are also mentioned in Rev 17 as those who agree to "give their Kingdom to the Beast" (the Revelation Beast) -------------------- These Last Saints are also mentioned in 1Co15 when they are "changed" in a "twinkling of an eye" into their spiritual bodies at the time of the Resurrection. -------------------- These Last Saints are also mentioned in Mat 25:1-13 as those who are included in the FINAL HARVEST ---------------------- These Last Saints are those who "shall understand" the mysteries of Daniel's prophecies [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10] and who are then COMMANDED to "prophecy again" about these Biblical mysteries as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound" [Rev 10:7-11] ------------------------- There are at least 3-4 other passages that come to mind when we are talking about the Last Saints who "see" the fulfillment of the Great Tribulation prophecies. ------------------------- Do you NOT KNOW of all the passages that talk about the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns? The passage you quoted is just one of MANY passages that talk about EVENTS occurring during the lives of these Last Saints. ---------------------------- www.5thKingdomofHeaven.com ---------------------------

[@wisevirgin3405]

@@evanu6579 ... Look, I can HELP YOU very easily to see your confusion... read the passage below... was it SPOKEN to the True Believers before 100 AD (absolutely) and yet it talks about "us" who are alive when the Lord Returns... since NO MAN lives for 2000 years, we can KNOW that the "us" represents the True Believers LIVING ON EARTH when the Lord Returns and "we" (who are alive and remain) are suddenly "changed" in a "twinkling of an eye" into our eternal incorruptible bodies.... that did NOT happen to the True Believers alive in 100 AD or 500 AD or 1000 AD or even 1500 AD... so we KNOW ABSOLUTELY what the CONTEXT of the word "we" or "us" represents... those True Believers living on earth when the Lord Returns. This is not rocket science... it is the ONLY fulfillment ---------------------- 1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? ----------------------------------- Now... if you are really naive enough to believe the PROPHECY was meant to be fulfilled BEFORE 100 AD then there is no hope for you because you cannot even understand the CONTEXT of a passage so you have no chance of understanding it's MEANING. -------------------------------------- www.5thKingdomofHeaven.com --------------------------------------

[@billyfaulk6789]

21:00 so Jesus was lying?

[@victorcritelli5790]

So R.C. Sproul was manipulated and more concerned with the opinions of Athiest than the truth and the word, So Sad He could have leaned on the Truth in context rather than bending the word to fit a new theology, Like any other lie you have to continue to bend more and more things to keep up the lie

[@godsancientworld]

It's only a crisis of you believe Jesus hasn't fulfilled his Messianic mission within that generation like he promised. If you believe Jesus honored his own words, then there is no crisis.

[@godsancientworld]

@lary Snw You need to re-study the Bible of you still believe there's unfulfilled OT prophecies. Jesus said not one iota or dot will pass from the Law until all is fulfilled (Matt 5:17-18). This meant that until Jesus fulfilled all things written in the law and Prophets, The Law would be enforced and would not pass away. So if you believe they're still unfulfilled prophecy, then the law has not passed and the New Covenant has not begun which creates a major theological dilemma. However, Jesus said that half the destruction of Jerusalem that all that is written would be fulfilled at that time (Luke 21:20-20-22). If everything written was fulfilled at the destruction of Jerusalem, then the Great Tribulation mentioned in that chapter, as well as the battle of Armageddon mentioned in Revelation, which all have their roots in the Old Testament prophets, have been fulfilled. In fact Jesus said that that generation would not pass until all things took place (Matt 24:34). This puts the consummation of the ages in AD 70 and not some distant future.

[@JohnMoore-bl4jl]

Get down to teaching and not so much explaining

[@amysteinkamp]

Do we really care about what Bertram Russell thinks? I would not say it’s a reason to invent the theology of preterism.

[@STW-News-Headlines]

Preterism wasn’t invented. It was there. It’s what Paul and the disciples taught. A SOON return of Jesus to end the old covenant age of Death and into the New Covenant age of Life. Thays resurrection. The old covenant body going to the Mew Covenant Body of Jesus. That’s it.. That’s what they taught. Not a world global ending and a future 2,000 year plus still waiting return.

[@edwindiaz345]

THANK GOD THAT HE DIDN'T COME BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE IF YOUR NAME IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE YOU CHOSE NOT TO BELIEVE AND THERE FOR YOU WERE CONDEM AND GOD NEW THIS BEFORE HAND BECAUSE HE LIVES OUT OF TIME, AND ONE DAY IS AS A THOUSEN YEARS AND A THOUSEN YEARS IS AS ONE DAY. 2 PETER 3:8 SO WHEN GOD CREATED ADEM IN CREATION ON THE SIX DAY FOR GOD SIX THOUSAN YEARS WENT BY, SO GOD SAW EVERY ONE BORN IN THIS LIFE AND HE DETERMINE THIS BY HIS OMNIPRESENS.WHICH IS JUST AND HOLY.

[@yeongfoo7066]

Selling books again?

[@P.H.888]

Teachers are supposed to be supported financially Do you work for nothing? But expect Christian Teachers too!, What a shame