Lil’ Dave - Heavy is the Head that Wears the Crown - 2hr Special

In this 2 hour Memorial Weekend Special Cinemills TV sits down with recently ousted International President of The Mongols MC, Dave Santillan, who also goes by Lil' Dave.
Lil’ Dave gives us an inside look at The Mongols MC hierarchy and club history and explains the trials and tribulations of navigating the club through RICO indictments and constant Government harassment as attempts are made to strip the club's identity by way of making it illegal to use the clubs marquee top rocker and center patch. Lil’ Dave provides an intimate look at the internal struggles for power and the recent “coupe d’etat” within the organization and highlights the deceit, betrayal and envy that comes with being the top brass in any organization. Moreover he details personal issues involving his wife and family as he comes to grips with the hard decisions involved in running and expanding a Multinational Motorcycle Club and keeping his Family nucleus together. During Lil’ Dave's reign as International Pres, his Cabinet and Brothers were able to grow the Clubs membership ranks and expand internationally through strategic methods. By being cordial and respectful to Special Agent John Ciccone(ATF) Lil’ Dave was able to finesse what could have been a very hostile relationship and kept the heat off the Club and its members as best he could. Through the years a mutual respect was earned by both men and Ciccone made it clear to Lil’ Dave that he was approaching retirement and would not be able to guarantee the next ATF agent assigned to the Mongols would be as cordial as Ciccone was. During Lil’ Dave's tenure as Int. Pres the Club's image was also dramatically improved through social media, main stream media access such as Lisa Ling's CNN special and charitable events that served local communities best interests. He clearly demonstrates that he never turned on his beloved Club Brothers nor misappropriated any of the Clubs funds. In this 2 hour special Lil’ Dave walks our audience through his personal thoughts and addresses the bogus allegations levied against him backed with receipts aka support documentation. Frustrations of not given his day in Mongol Court have driven Lil’ Dave to clear his good name on various platforms and Cinemills TV was honored he chose us as one. The thankless and high profile position as International President comes with many demands, responsibilities and burden. It’s a 3-D chess game involving Family, Law Enforcement, 1%er Politics, Court Cases, Club & Personal Business and an undertaking most people aren't built for but are the first to criticize from the sidelines. There are critics that have taken the approach “Don’t bother with me with the facts - I’ve made up mind” but the verdict is in: Lil Dave loves his Family, Club Brothers and feels proud of the legacy he left for the next generation of Mongols MC Brothers.
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Special Thanks to Lil Dave's wife Annie for supplying Photo assets and Major Respect to the Mongols MC Nation.

[@joalvarez6252]

There is no loyalty or camaraderie in any organization! Its best to stay to yourself! You came in this world by yourself and you will leave this world by yourself and thats that!

[@shortbus794]

Pretty sure I came into this world with my moms an doctors an nurses around me. Or is there deeper meaning? If so I’m very curious in a good way.

[@joalvarez6252]

@shortbus794 The way I see it, chief, we are born by ourselves, and when we die, we die going out solo! Nobody will be with you after that! With that being said, there is no loyalty in anything, including jobs, no team work, no commaraderie. It seems like people never want to do what's right, and someone always fu*$ it up! Keep your standards low, and you'll never be disappointed!

[@shortbus794]

@@joalvarez6252 I reckon I never thought of it that way honestly. That’s heavy dope n

[@joebrett5544]

@joalvarez6252 Speak for yourself , are you in an MC ? Have you ever been in a MC.? I’m in a BIG4 1% club and Brotherhood and loyalty is REAL. And we’re thriving.

[@joalvarez6252]

@@joebrett5544 Amen to you! Hopefully it works out!

[@vinnieortega]

As a grown man I took enough orders in the Marine Corps, no way in hell I would join a club and get told what to do everyday now

[@hoosierpete]

What makes you think that's the way it is? As a prospect you're going be told what to do because we need to know we can count on you, once you've been patched in, it's not like that, you may be asked to do certain things, hopefully you do it, nobody should have to tell you to do anything.

[@vinnieortega]

@@hoosierpete billy queen got patched in....

[@angelocolon8998]

@@vinnieortega vinny ur 1000% correct.

[@yoshit9819]

Very true. "Hey prospect fetch me a beer and clean my bike". Ok.

[@perryhart3172]

Agreed, and most things your told can get your freedom taken.

[@hhpuenterox3512]

Sounds like rata Bobby d and this dudes hina Annie got Something going on.....

[@floyd700]

With all due respect.. Being in a 1%er club in 2024 seems like your volunteering to go to jail. With all the cellphones/cameras these days, being that easily identified and doing crime doesn't make any sense.

[@scrappy3141]

I used to ride with a support club for a 1% Club this is the main storyline to any leadership position I have seen in a motorcycle club I have never seen anyone walk away with their relationship with the club and family intact I believe this is because you have power-hungry people who do not care about true Brotherhood I do not think this will ever change this is just the type of people motorcycle clubs attract even though you have solid guys like Little Dave. Can you believe the Mongols MC was conquered by a liar and the rest of the organization are too cowardly to stand up to him the proof is in the pudding paperwork is everything

[@knowledgeuntamed9177]

Paperwork is gonna set alot of brothers free in alot of MCs, we need Dave to testify against the federal agent tho that he was giving them privlaged info during trials. He does that, Mongols, Outlaws, Vagos who been locked up 30yrs coming home....and Mongols will have a completely different respect

[@robertfreeman5231]

@@knowledgeuntamed9177 im not a lawyer but i can't see how or why that would happen? How could information he may have provided in a RICO case thats a few years old have any bearing on someone thats been down 20-30 yrs? Not trying to be a smart ass, js

[@nogoogle6349]

@@robertfreeman5231 Read a fkn book, stpd a$$. You should have stayed in school. It's never too late to educate yourself and gain some knowledge. Lil Dave even spells it out for you in this video of what could possibly happen in court proceedings. Dumb fk, Piece it together.

[@willl7780]

ive seen this many times in the penn with lots of solid clicks...its crazy and really sad...

[@joebrett5544]

Lil Dave is a snitch. Go to insane throttle biker news on KZbin and watch the last few videos on lil dave topic. There is a link you can click to read the court transcripts for yourself.

[@CartelHoodboy]

Solid interview much respect to the Mongols and much respect for ... Lil.Dave... Solid 💯

[@augustwestny]

Whether it is 1% MC's, La Cosa Nostra or US Congress/Senate - the thirst for power and reputation leads to back-stabbing and double-dealing. Call me a chump for being a working man but I lay my head down in peace and surround my self with good people who have no control of me and how I live.

[@cinemillstv]

John - hold your head up - being a working man is gansgta.......Its hard getting up everyday and playing the game right. Keep up the hard work.....

[@anthonyvasquez5128]

I'm with you on that. I've never liked the idea of another man telling me how to live. Now, to me, that's being free. I don't have time for drama in my life. And I'm a badass too.

[@cinemillstv]

Tony your an Alpha Male lone Wolf and we get you.....

[@MrEa78]

The interviewer is Dave's biggest fan.

[@road_king_dude]

​@@R-BURQUENOthis comment didn't age well.

[@R-BURQUENO]

@@road_king_dude LMAO. In spite of

[@charlesthedeadlifter4376]

It's insane how these dudes in MC Clubs care more about a club full of back stabbers than their own family. Their kids. I will never understand that.

[@jameslippincott558]

In most mc culture family is first. He just chose the wrong club.

[@joeshmoe8952]

I’m a one man crew, I don’t need to take responsibility for someone else’s fuckup’s. When one person screw up, it reflects the whole club.

[@joeshmoe8952]

@tire iron Vinnie Only club you should back up is your own family. I understand even siblings, uncles, cousins, etc. can be no good but you always need to back up your children no matter what.

[@michaeltepuni]

Because sometimes the club is the first real family they ever have. But if you know you know

[@hoosierpete]

Yeah what do you know about it? Just what you heard that's all, because you would be all those things, wouldn't you?

[@3xOG]

GROW UP U TALK TO MUCH

[@cinemillstv]

Accusation reveals the character of the accuser more than the accused

[@gamalielromero7120]

I never been a part of the MC AND I THINK I’ll never be a part but I love all this I love the loyalty I ride my bike by my self I watch the whole video good job

[@cinemillstv]

GR - than you for your support, we appreciate you…..

[@KrissStiletto13]

It just goes to show you how those that you trust will turn into Snakes if power becomes involved. Wow! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)

[@RN4LIFER]

All day errrr day 💯

[@loudawg8330]

@@RN4LIFER n

[@Madoobe87]

That's why the so called brotherhood, never ever exist, it's all about money and power. Never join 1% club!!

[@johnwaters3537]

This guy still trying to convince people???

[@cinemillstv]

Yeah most people are convinced hes innocent and got railroaded.

[@aaronanderson7619]

@@cinemillstv most, not all. I appreciate the content.

[@knowledgeuntamed9177]

And this...this is why most clubs do not want drug addicts as members.

[@knowledgeuntamed9177]

@bane Fr?!?!? Mexians are some q the hardest working mfs. Most MCs are connected and close with Mexicans. Most anyway. I been down there, seen how messed up our drug use has made that country.

[@knowledgeuntamed9177]

@bane pretty sure Mongols have become mainly mexican. Which, that's kinda crazy to me

[@knowledgeuntamed9177]

@bane atleast youll know the cop, He speaks English get him

[@knowledgeuntamed9177]

@bane that's...not the story. Guy who started it was an ex 81, Actually testified in a trail against them and then created that club. Just was reading about this a few weeks ago

[@knowledgeuntamed9177]

@bane Idk if they had Mexicans in the beginning or not, you would think w/the name Banditos would. Every MC has sisters tho that have black, mexican, asian brothers. There are black 1% clubs like the hells lovers. Which, they are good brothers.

[@RESPECT-ob4lt]

Plain and simple you know what you signed up for !!!

[@johnjohnherrera]

Thats your ride or die ? she tried to get you caught up. She tried to get u caught up and it’s all good ? Even though your “brothers “reacted on what she did but yet they are snake? Sounds like you are blaming the wrong person …,, so goes the saying , love is blind .

[@aaronanderson7619]

Heavy

[@blahblahblah2151]

Facts Annie’s the rat Dave’s the cheese 🧀

[@ivanlizetvalenzuela6052]

No matter what Bobby should have never been involved with daves ol lady

[@rulas2018]

Annie the 🐍 why she talking to Bobby Dee ?

[@blahblahblah2151]

Cause Dave always approved and was on speaker like always !!! Cause Bobby bought them all there cars gave them money concert tickets everything Bobby gave him!! Bobby works hard not him !!

[@911S]

He has to be PC is he gets locked up

[@joeshmoe8952]

This guy’s wife really ruined him.

[@BowDownBullies]

Lil dave wife aint loyal she probably let bobby d hit

[@jerryrice8507]

Paperwork is everything!!!!

[@jaimemeza7300]

Damn even The New York Times calling him a rat! 😬😬😬😬😬

[@cinemillstv]

Jaimie we read the same article and none of us see where they said that. The article was boring and didn't drop any bomb.

[@jaimemeza7300]

@@cinemillstv that article definitely didn't make him look good.

[@CarlosGarcia-gz4nz]

You lame read it again pendeja..

[@cinemillstv]

Agreed but it was worded very carefully. You have to sell headlines…..If you read it again it shows no where were he is called an informant

[@christimecarmona6810]

Just keep riding! I keep coming back to these videos. Very interesting. 😊

[@mikenino1559]

He said mongol for ever they don't even want nothing to do with him 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cinemillstv]

Depends who you ask....Lil' Dave had many Brothers who liked his get down and he has his detractors. How do we know this? Because we have met those fellas. Everything gets political at this level. We think this story is more about a New School vs. Old School approach to MC biker culture rather than anything else. Dave wanted and did modernize the club, tried to coach his Brothers to stay out the way and avoid living in a room the size of a bathroom with other men for 25 years plus. The Mongols have and will always have respect from everyone. They made their point and unfortunately blood was shedded to do so. For Dave it was about moving smarter in a world of ring cams and cell phones. Using finesse rather than conflict to grow the club. Talk softly but carry a big stick approach. Being a crash test dummy gets old......

[@TheCityUnplugged]

Facts. 😂

[@dallas2094]

I just cant see my wife smothering my name like that. Let alone at that level this man was at. What did she think was gunna happen. Ive been with my wife since i was 16 years of age and im 42 now. I put her through hell and back. We worked things out and its all gud now. But couples are always gunna have problems no matter what. But for her to get me in a wreck like that she wud never. Thats like ending ur life bro.

[@Beatbailey]

Good comment brother, everyone posting seams like fan boys and dont get the real picture. She stabbed him in the back, theres no coming back from that. I could not forgive. She also screwed the club as a whole and other clubs if u think about it🤦‍♂

[@yoban360]

She could of got him killed, what was she thinking?!

[@cinemillstv]

A womens scorn is the scariest of all. If you haven’t been the victim of a vindictive woman you will never understand. Dave fucked around so bad on her. Humiliated her and got what was coming. The sad story is that he never ratted and never provided any info to law enforcement.

[@dallas2094]

@@cinemillstv ive done my fair share of stuff. And my wife found out but she wud never smother my name. And on top of that he still stayed together. She ended his career bro. But i never said he ratted.

[@jacobmaier8993]

It was what he was saying that makes everyone believe he was snitching, not what she was saying.

[@cletusjones9411]

With all the backstabbing and politics it seems like being in an outlaw motorcycle club is just as bad, or worse, than being in a corporation.

[@danielk9409]

I’m sorry bro BUT this ain’t how the games played holmes period point blank, I don’t care what your excuses or reasons 4 going rogue are, I think Dave at this point has played himself & what’s done is done

[@anthonycali5679]

True that 👌

[@NM50555]

We got Another Bobby D here

[@donpeludo1940]

El lloron

[@alanberman5803]

Sounds scripted and set up by this dude lil Dave to make himself look better.

[@betterdayz909fontana3]

meanwhile the earth is traveling through space at about 67,000 miles per hour.

[@norcal6006]

FLAT EARTH RIGHT

[@ch33kmanddmc44]

LoL a lot of people don't realize we're on a rock spinning around the Sun at a staggering speed. Petty Somethings

[@thenextemperor3855]

Random comment that has nothing to do with the interview

[@dieselburner4461]

😂

[@mr.roboto7330]

@@thenextemperor3855that’s the whole point genius… lol basically he’s saying this interview and Bs is irrelevant 😂😂

[@saauce1098]

Photos and Phone Calls wit da Feds … Looks like a Duck sounds like a Duck … DUCK!

[@Daygosd619]

You’re a snitch. Shut up

[@edmundoflores2200]

Ese Dave that's fucked up what you went thru. But guess what bro Eres chingon homes. Look me up sometime you my kind of guy. Mis respetos para los dos Chicano MC's. Estoy en verdugo, tu casa cuando vengas carnal. Don't waver or back down!

[@mutavhello6654]

The video in question...drunk or not, Dave admits to being protected by that ATF agent...his own words...

[@cinemillstv]

Bane what retirement party do you keep talking about. There was no retirement party.

[@cinemillstv]

Oh the bowling alley in his Nieghborhood where he was with the grandkids. A perfect inconspicuous place to meet your ATF handler…..

[@thefitnesszonegym9654]

Bro he was working with the feds ...i get it you look up to Dave a lot of people did ... But he was 100% working with the feds ... I'll wait for you to delete my comment like you do all the others that dont meet your narrative ...

[@cinemillstv]

We haven't deleted one comment.

[@SWESOE187.]

Him and Bobby's world should have a celebrity boxing match lol

[@joshrobinson6785]

Neither one of them are celebrities though 🤷‍♂️

[@williamnathan2032]

Yeah sure everyone is a celebrity now 🤦‍♂️

[@SWESOE187.]

@@joshrobinson6785 says who?

[@blahblahblah2151]

Haha Dave can’t fight Bobby’s always been his back up didn’t you see Dave dip in Laughlin 😂

[@joshrobinson6785]

@@SWESOE187. idk maybe the 99.9999% of the world outside of southern california whose never heard of either of them

[@Unleashedraider1985]

Is he still running from the Hells Angels??

[@yamommasfavoritesuggababy30]

There is no loyalty in the streets. Your gang your club your crew ain’t loyal to you. They will never be. Wake up people. God is the only way.

[@tommy8331]

I was a full patched member of a 1% motorcycle club in sometimes good guys get blackballed betrayed ripped off for a fair amount of money and left in jail hungry and come out to a goose egg and it a club that is at the top of the food chain where any of these things should be unacceptable that's my story. Because other members might have more influence look prettier the Kardashian type and I financially more well-established than others I haven't seen my daughter in 10 years I should have my story told to but then they like to call you a rat and you wanted to some members that it makes them feel better keeping good people down . The biggest thing I've lost out of all this is I haven't seen my daughter in over 10 years my only child how's that for Brotherhood

[@christimecarmona6810]

Any chance to connect with her? I am sorry that is sad. I am sure your heart hurts over that. ❤

[@tommy8331]

Her mother put a lifetime restraining order on me out of spite then she let her go to the state it get adopted they said they looked for me for 2 years but they didn't so she got adopted

[@christimecarmona6810]

@@tommy8331 Sorry to hear that! If you still have a motorcycle just ride it takes off stress. I dated a few guys with bikes and we would go for nice long rides. I dated a guy in a club, I didn't like his control with me and having a prospect follow me around. That relationship ended. I hope you find happiness 😊

[@tommy8331]

I'm working on it she's the only thing that keeps me alive on some days I will never stop fighting she will know the truth someday my only child.

[@tommy8331]

@@christimecarmona6810 I pray to God and he don't like ugly I wanted a child to give it a better life then what I had back when I was a kid

[@Mymistakes77]

Why hasnt he handled b.dee tho...

[@joogullae3456]

Who's B. Dee and why would he handle him?

[@BirdFromYakiVegas]

@@joogullae3456 Bobby D. The Man behind the scenes who smutted him up n sent the video out Etc

[@Jayrod28]

Exactly, hard 1%ers don't throw their brothers under the bus over a scorned ol'lady. Didn't even have his back, plus anybody who sided with this rat style conduct should be out bad. It's a club for men, and this dude used a woman's emotions as ammunition against his own brother. WTF is going on in the 1% community in California?

[@TR84609]

🐀🐀🐀

[@robkeller3431]

This dude seems pretty cool. They did him like Trump though.

[@MrImaghost]

You can't hang with scorpions and not get stung, betrayal,jealousy,people stepping on other people to get to the top...that's just part of that life style, like he says: " we're not buncha boy scouts".

[@pump1768]

💯 you’re not lying about that

[@pauldiaz4273]

Sounds like, at my job 😂😂😂

[@1LUV2NO1]

Inflated ego, overbearing arrogance, overt narcissistic….his lack of accountability is baffling.

[@mikesbikes1575]

I could see you know nothing about leadership, it takes a certain man like Dave to make a failing organization a success once again.

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

He gave the guys around him credit for the success of the club that's not something a narcissist would do

[@1LUV2NO1]

@@Stephen-bq4nq come on my brotha he praised his camaradas and the club tongue-in-cheek.

[@jaybond0919]

Fake ryders, SOLO ANGELES BC, TJ BC. On netflix

[@mauriceallen5573]

If I joined an MC, it would be BACA.

[@jairovillalobos5642]

i think half of mongols knoe watsup are thinking the same as me this way how the indercover will do it this way so they wont get burn lol

[@MEXICAMIKE]

Did he just say we aren't letting you get on stand you know where all the bodies are wtf that's allbad

[@bendaves77]

He's a narcissist..

[@teddytheraccoon2128]

Damn dude just basically debriefed to the world 🤔

[@88_Ghost]

🤣🤣

[@tonygonzalez305]

I personally know people that are soft and are "in the Mongols"

[@SWESOE187.]

Name drop or don't open your mouth

[@severelychanged3679]

Every clubs has all types of people, but what you can’t take away from them is that they had the balls to prospect and have the sack to wear the patch. Would you?

[@bendaves77]

Not everyone in the mongols prospected.. some never even had a Harley ever.. they were allowed to buy their patches

[@mexicand7691]

@Heather Caltagirone a south sider, aka cholo

[@tonygonzalez305]

@@SWESOE187. get off they nuts. I said I personally know some that don't mean they pussy to everyone dummy

[@stevenaleman9757]

Sounds like the club was actually tired of his old lady lol. Every story started with “my old lady”

[@Ishbikes]

😂 That’s why the mafia never brings their wife around.

[@MadMan559est69]

Just think, If he was just a regular BBQ dad / father he wouldn't have to be worried about this shit.

[@paulberumen2720]

The mangoes are pretty Firme. I know you guys don’t recruit any Homies no more, I’m not a Homie no more got out with great standings from the hood and the system I got 30 years plus I have a Harley Davidson because I love to ride. I know you have to prospect but I don’t like prospecting because I don’t like to be treated like a punk because I’m not, but again I know your rules and I’m no difference in breaking rules!!! I have respect for the Mongols !!! My way up most respect to you guys moment anyways, I’m from AZUSA 13 In San Gabriel Valley but live in Victorville bought me a house out here and loving it. I see you guys out here and the Vagos mc keep pushing Homie. Sorry what you went through lil Dav with Doc…..lates big Gato

[@brucesantacory1390]

Frankly i am a Believer of Lil'Dave and George Christie, Clubs have a bad habit of stepping on good people

[@PO-nd1bb]

Just like little Dave nothing different.

[@williamyates1726]

lil dave, is no George Christi.

[@brucesantacory1390]

@@williamyates1726 Never said he was, Don't know either man so i will not judge, but they both appear to be people who gave their all to their clubs only to be screwed over by them, for BS Club Politics

[@rhondaflinn3210]

😢😂

[@srbweaponxeric9935]

Respect from Australia in one state no more then 3 club members can ride together they are cracking down hard on all the clubs its a full on dictatorship but people should not fear the motorcycle clubs its the government what's the biggest threat to humanity.

[@hardcoresb3]

Truth.

[@stevensmall9398]

Yeah man that sucks. Mc's are clubs. Government is the biggest baddest gang in the world.

[@cinemillstv]

We call them the Sons of Liberty

[@brandonwalker1473]

But all these "Americans" lust over Australia and how "free" it is

[@tayalyn08]

Are you trying to redeem yourself or just giving too much information?

[@cinemillstv]

Redemption has happened........

[@ihatesocialnetworkin]

If a women records you and betrays your confidence! LET HER GO!

[@hectordejesus6040]

I heard Dave was stealing money from the club?

[@cinemillstv]

Not true…..Smut campaign - sad - Heavy is the head……

[@hectordejesus6040]

@@cinemillstv can’t believe you bud. Heard the interview, you were acting like a fanboy. Tooting that dudes horn.

[@hectordejesus6040]

@@Verolove927 samething I was saying to myself. Bc he’s too much like the president of Dave’s fan club.

[@cinemillstv]

If he was stealing money than make that the accusation - throwing a rat jacket on him isnt fair when there is absolutely NO paperwork.

[@cinemillstv]

@hectordejesus6040 follow the paperwork dont believe us trust the process....the new rumor is the real reason Dave got booted was the kitty was low. That is something we can never prove....one way or the other. But the Rat thing is BS

[@Maximus-sm4ue]

I believe this guy, he’s too smart and worked too hard to just handover the patch. It’s MUCH more believable that he paved the way for a very attractive seat in the club and someone would do some bullshit to get it.

[@michaelmarifern9541]

I believe him too

[@robertsand9569]

@@michaelmarifern9541 well don’t! I’m VERY close to these guys and I honestly don’t care either way about them or him but this dude is just full of shyt, full of himself and everyone was tired of it period. All I’m gonna say is the cowardly act of him running outta the casino ordeal was true! I was there that weekend! And he has priors of starting fights and leaving you behind. Did it to me and my homie at Crazy Girls and we had to gun our way out because he left us! Coward! But then again they all are when they ain’t 50 deep!!

[@robertsand9569]

Well don’t. That’s his strength. He is verbally laced up like a MFer… He THINKS he can talk his way into/out of things. Another one of his characteristics they got tired of! Don’t believe this guy as far as you can throw him. I’ve been around this dude since the late 90’s. Rescued him many times and was left behind by him in a bar fight he started.

[@nogoogle6349]

@@robertsand9569 What do you mean close?

[@michaelmarifern9541]

@@robertsand9569 yea..thought about all of this, club $$ missing, ATF Handler, most likely threatened w/ RICO...he rolled.

[@gmoneyk6027]

HOW BOUT THE PART IN THE VIDEO WITH THAT SCUFFLE IN THE CASINO WHEN HE HID IN THE BACK OF EVERYONE 😂

[@cardenas86pcec]

I thought he was ur boy G money? Or are u a different G Money?

[@gmoneyk6027]

@@cardenas86pcec no clue what u means

[@cardenas86pcec]

@@gmoneyk6027 there's a Mongol named G money that kicked it with Dave

[@gmoneyk6027]

@@cardenas86pcec THATS NOT , NOT EVEN CLOSE

[@gmoneyk6027]

@@cardenas86pcec not me I meant

[@armandoolivares1833]

Did Dave have something to do with doc getting busted ? Yes !!

[@cinemillstv]

No DOC cooked his own goose.

[@armandoolivares1833]

@@cinemillstvno shit of course he did that's what people do ,we do it until something or someone interferes or drops dimes .and the way this guy talks about dude and with this coming out he definitely had something to do with it a c.i. isn't the type of snitch that takes the stand he's the kind of snitch that whispers in the right person's ear then sits back and watches it play out .

[@CRUtv-bc4mm]

Little Dave is a straight-up snitch you could just tell just by him talking it was obvious

[@gunz_n_bikes171]

He needs to be left out now everyone wants to put him on this is the second interview with after getting booted hes twisting his own words and i see everyone jumping onto his side without even truly knowing what went on

[@cinemillstv]

So what went on? Have you gone to court like we did. He didnt rat....Its proven....Tell us what you know....

[@gunz_n_bikes171]

@@cinemillstv so he wrecks that mercedes while DUI and gets off with no more than a slap on the wrist? Theres a reason he is out bad still out bad and has no chance of patching back up…

[@amc3463]

@@gunz_n_bikes171 no proof no paperwork 🤡

[@gunz_n_bikes171]

@@amc3463 oh you must be a patch holder and went through the only court that matters in this situation? You sat down with the patch holders and heard everything going on? Look at any other videos its right there

[@666Nation]

Why do platforms give an informant the spotlight?

[@cinemillstv]

Jeremiah - imagine playing the game right - working tirelessly to build an organization, then someone wants your seat and smuts you up. Then your never given due process and just removed. There's no where to turn to clear your name except the court of public opinion.

[@666Nation]

@@cinemillstv Imagine you're wife telling everyone you are a government informant and you double down by going to the birthday party for the ATF agent you are accused of being an informant for LMFAO.

[@cinemillstv]

Jeremiah your wrong he was at his grandkids party at a bowling alley that guy in the picture(Montebello PD) was three years retired and happened to be there. Watch our next video with Dave coming soon and we break it all down.....Dont jump out the window....You'll see the whole thing now clearly..

[@johngotti4170]

I heard that message idk man you said you friends with the feds idk vato suspect

[@loz_a8069]

I mean….it’s being almost a year since that video Annie released, and no indictments, no raids, no jail/prison time for anyone. If he was a rat, an informant, I think the Gov would’ve acted already

[@EL_TORCIDO]

Dudes a rat when your in that life you can’t have any involvement with the feds small talk or not

[@cinemillstv]

VL - Lil Dave was not an informant and far from it. This is a power grab and its actually a common occurrence throughout History - accuse the Pres of betrayal and corruption - form a new party and take the seat - mark my words this cycle will repeat again and again. Human beings have always struggled with power - either by misuse or trying to obtain it. Everything they said Dave wiggled out of were minor offenses that anyone who has lawyer money could get reduced in court. Lil’ Dave is as solid as they come

[@84.0Media]

Not necessarily

[@louiehernandez4741]

Investigations, especially targeting gangs (LE considers the Mongols MC a gang or at least an enterprise) can take 2-6 years, easily. In fact, depending on the allegations, I've seen allegations or Overt Acts, 15 years alleged before the unsealing of the indictment.

[@blahblahblah2151]

Dave is wack get over it already aren’t you a pegon now 😂😂😂

[@Daygosd619]

If I was him, I would NEVER get back with her. Growing everything for the club and giving his kids and wife EVERYTHING, and she post that sh**. His entire life changed after her being petty. Like I would never forgive her

[@All_BLK]

That shit is crazy how she did him. I could never.

[@Daygosd619]

@@All_BLK you’re a keeper

[@Jacob-qt6oe]

Lying already. Dave NEVER went to jail for the Mongols. He went for embezzlement that he committed prior to joining the club

[@emiliano4091]

He claimed mongol in a pit of south siders. Solid rep. Stood his ground ,, that’s facts

[@Jacob-qt6oe]

@@emiliano4091 bro you have absolutely no idea of what you’re talking about. Go KZbin Coward in Laughlin

[@EL_TORCIDO]

You say solid south sider but no solid south sider can have any type of relationship with a federal agent nothing so please explain how he is a solid ss .

[@emiliano4091]

@@EL_TORCIDO what ss is fighting a fed case. These type of situations happen.

[@jessecastro1448]

@@emiliano4091 but he ran away in Laughlin

[@sergiovilla7040]

Lil Dave’s a snitch he was crying that law-enforcement wasn’t going to be able to protect them anymore

[@bullterror5]

Well the ATF guy he was working with was a Ciccone, N'drangheta, as in Madonna! And those pieces of shit finance Hezbollah, ISIS, Al Qaeda & Hamas - so the "ATF Ciccone" should have been more afraid of RICO Legislation than any Mongol alive... That's the fkn TRUTH! 💥

[@ssingh6030]

Be careful.. they’re going to delete ur comment. Only one narrative here..

[@amc3463]

Gotta show paperwork and what brothers did he put in jail you talking a big game with no backup ?? 🤔

[@cinemillstv]

S Singh - we have not deleted one comment. Look around ...If you cus KZbin kicks in and quarantines the comment. But we have let everything fly......Facts

[@joehernandez9311]

Anyone who grew up in the life or is part of the life knows that with out paperwork it never happen

[@geegotti2835]

He's a big weenie..

[@Rich-gx6lf]

So the mongols dont want members from up north. There an MC need to put that shit aside.

[@cinemillstv]

Rich - CA has some very tricky street politics.

[@2WheelsForever]

I feel for this guy. He went above and beyond helping his nation. To see him get shafted like that and publicly humiliated is just sad and bad on so many levels. THIS is what "Brotherhood" gets you..... Never drink that Kool Aid. My club days are over..... Riding off the radar is the best way

[@dww1614]

Stop watching NatGeo

[@Adizzyweezy]

There's a video that shows Dave running away during a brawl in Vegas....just saying...

[@robertfreeman5231]

Well apparently he was accused of "helping himself $" and he did not have the proof to show otherwise he would have right? It would go something like "of course i have receipts to PROVE i didn't steal" but he never said that. Humiliated cuz he got caught.

[@nogoogle6349]

@@robertfreeman5231 Go tell that to lil Dave's face or any of the Club Members and see what happens. 🤔

[@robertfreeman5231]

@@nogoogle6349 ok, as soon as you get off his nuts. Any idea when that will be?

[@cash9801]

The best platform I've seen so far. Great interview Lil Dave. Respect from Australia 🇦🇺

[@cinemillstv]

C Ash thanks bro - were going to keep pumping good content for our subs. Respect and love to our Aussie Brothers and Sisters….

[@Dominologist]

Ohhhh dang loko danggggg I met loco in Lompoc fci good dude very funny

[@armandoolivares1833]

So your telling me that this motorcycle club can't afford a polygraph tester or hire a professional polygraph person that catches lier's for a living ..you could set it up and have the guy explain the process and do the testing in private quarters only for a few to whiteness..what the big deal if he's lying then he could quietly gather his things and go out the back door and if he's not then he could walk out the front and talk all the shit he wants !! Right I'm just saying..fuck the bullshit and get to facts.

[@PO-nd1bb]

This is not a damn courthouse , please stop your nonsense

[@williamdolezal9184]

Sounds like a bunch of extra drama. I have enough drama in my life without looking for extra

[@thefitnesszonegym9654]

Great interview, but I can't get over the phone call with his wife he started " he's retiring soon he can't protect me anymore "we can all swist the facts to fit the narrative , but the truth is he was working with the law and they were protecting him ...

[@garyshuckahosee3866]

He should get on with his life and be glad he's not.in prison with all his so called bros

[@thescrapaslayer4004]

Lil Dave the runner 😂 won’t forget that night his ass let his guys get beat up as he stormed out the casino 😂 didn’t put no work in 🙊

[@ericdistefano3810]

The interviewer is on lil Dave’s side, u can tell right off the bat. Wish there was a few questions comin for the other side. Know what I mean?!?! Seems like a PREZ that I would want running my club.

[@cinemillstv]

Eric what questions would you like to have been asked? Since we have documents its hard not be on Daves side. The Agent said under oath he isnt a rat. Do you think a highly decorated ATF agent would compromise himself to save Daves ass? C’mon it’s obvious he didnt rat.

[@elviscanadien2895]

I do have to say one thing about the Mongols MC ATF officer McQueen said after his case was done the one thing he missed the most was the brotherhood of the Mongols MC. He said they really cared about him! Wow never heard any law enforcement official say that ever about any MC club👍🏻

[@cash9801]

A bit of mutual respect goes a long way...I know from experience.

[@cash9801]

It's called Mutual Respect. When you get pulled over in Australia you need to pass the Attitude Test. Pass that your fine, if want to be a wanna be hard cunt then they will go out of their way to make sure you have the worst day of the month. Pass the Attitude Test and even if they find a defect on your bike,car or whatever, you'll probably get a warning and told to get it fixed asap. It's as simple as that.

[@theroadless]

And that's called "The Art of War"

[@theroadless]

@bane I'm speaking from perspective of the club. They made him feel like he was "cared" about. I'm simply pointing out the art of war. That warfare is based on deception.

[@theroadless]

@bane you're misinterpreting what I'm stating. I'm speaking from the clubs perspective as a whole, and not the isolated incident involving Lil Dave. The club made him feel like a brother. And that is the art of war.

[@knowledgeuntamed9177]

🤔🤔🤔 If a guy calling the shots is taking orders from the Feds...isn't that entrapment? Or is that something worse?

[@sal_slots]

Sorry me personally If you have to be a full patch member you have to be a prospect before anything no matter who you know as a part of the game

[@R-BURQUENO]

🤷. This dude has had his hand held through this entire membership of this club.

[@pump1768]

You’ll appreciate something you earned through hard work and effort rather than something you were given for little or no effort.

[@lefty1474]

Damn they built the Mongols MC into on hell of a MC and to lose it all to a power grab. Smh I bet he would have never thought his time in his MC would end like that. Smh

[@PO-nd1bb]

What goes around comes around. He did the same shit to others

[@dizkrete]

@@PO-nd1bb all you do is comment about Dave. We get it, you have a personal beef.

[@PO-nd1bb]

@@dizkrete don’t even know him just stating facts

[@chrismathews4478]

Canada's got ur back Lil Dave. Much Respect. Real recognize Real. I'd love to have a chat with you about expanding your horizons.

[@slynn5138]

Definitely not going to happen in Canada 🇨🇦. He briefly mentioned this because of the HA dominance North of the border.

[@rebeccamcguire2798]

@@slynn5138 yeah that didn’t go over well in ontario canada at all uhhh … learn biker history man it’s out there ha is dominat or was in that provance and why that it didn’t happen in ontario canada 😅

[@tfries1607]

Dunno if Lil Dave will see this. Great story. Mad respect to you. May you live long and prosper.

[@user-wj8fj2pu9u]

I never knew MC were able to put their business out their in public, I always tought they tock care of their stuff behind close doors not exposing their business to the public🤔

[@Str8Jacket_5150]

apparently it didn’t get handled tho. can’t say i blame him personally.

[@Highestsevenz]

This new era shit sucks.

[@raouldukesgolfshoes1253]

He’s not in the MC anymore. They kicked him out.

[@Str8Jacket_5150]

@@raouldukesgolfshoes1253 and if it’s really without a fair internal trial of some sort, the way they do things, then i’d say he’s got every right no matter how bad the old heads don’t like it, to clear his name.

[@Hustledadd]

If it’s public knowledge it’s not a club “secret” anymore.

[@thefitnesszonegym9654]

👑 🐀

[@kevinbrooks1104]

All that over a stray piece of tail, darn that's cold

[@SidewaysBurnouts]

He just repeats lawyer jargon like a politican instead of a mouse who was scared to be a crash dummy, you cant be a leader if you were never a torpedo, you cant order murders if you havent even scratched somebody with a pencil.

[@sleepz5461]

Whatsup brotha I see you on GC / ACP channel a few times, I agree… dave isn’t fooling anyone. Who can be that naive

[@TheDrill65]

59:30 Common Sense & Respect You don't enter a mans home when he isn't there period.

[@robertfreeman5231]

27:49 "Woody and Red Dog........they're cranksters"! This guy said that with a smirk on his face. Who in the fuck says something like that?(even if its true) about some of his so-called "Brothers".

[@tfries1607]

Dunno. Is that a put down ? I've known tons of "cranksters" over the years. I've been a crankster off and on over the years. I take no offense to the term. Don't care who knows. If someone doesn't approve they can stick it. DG2F what anyone thinks.

[@marley8054]

Both have been out of the club for years

[@robertfreeman5231]

@@marley8054 ok, so are you saying since they've "been outta the club for years" they dont deserve the respect no more? I just think thats uncalled for and disrespectfulto describe a fellow "brother" like that, worse even on you tube. I mean if theyre hanging out and no one else hears is different. What if some law enforcement dicks see and hear him say "they're cranksters" and there they go. wtf

[@tfries1607]

@@robertfreeman5231 I see what you're saying

[@nogoogle6349]

@@tfries1607 Good question, the guy that made that comment about "cranksters" is just a pvssy who lives in the KZbin comment section underneath Lil Dave's nutsack.

[@michael5301]

Why is it your own people always wanna take you out is there really a thing called brotherhood......

[@DemonsRow]

Great interview bro

[@cinemillstv]

Thank you! Which part did you like the most?

[@GW4PCITY]

@@cinemillstv the way you structured it, the timing of each question was flawless, but my favorite part was about current state of affairs. This was a good look for the both of you.

[@Hustledadd]

Agreed! Giving him a chance to explain it all should be opening eyes that there are two sides to the story.

[@cinemillstv]

GHOST we need to run your story - hit us when your in the LA area - we love and support your channel Brodie….

[@robertfreeman5231]

@@Hustledadd theres 3 SIDES....you forgot about "the truth".

[@orangecounty3336]

GANGS, CLUBS, BROTHERHOODS ETC. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE OUT THERE HATING AND GUNING FOR YOUR SPOT, JEALOUSY AND ENVY. YOU'RE BETTER OFF SOLO, FAMILY & GOD IS IT. LESSON LEARNED. THEY DID HIM A FAVOR BECUSE THEY WERE HOLDING HIM BACK, NOW HE'S FREE..... WATCH OUT AS THE POTENTIAL FOR HIS SUCCESS IS UNLIMITED!!

[@Ishbikes]

You think he free?

[@orangecounty3336]

EVERY MAN HAS THEIR OWN DECISIONS TO MAKE, EITHER WAY AIN'T NO REAL MAN GONNA BE LIVING IN FEAR IT IS WHAT IT IS, WE MAKE OUR MISTAKES SOME MORE SO THEN OTHERS BUT EACH DAY WE HAVE LEFT SHOULD BE LIVED TO THE FULLEST. DEATH COMES TO US ALL HOW YOU LIVE IS ALL THAT MATTERS AND HOW YOU TREAT OTHERS.@@Ishbikes

[@insanethrottlebikernews]

Here's the issue with your interview- For one it's scripted. Secondly his body movements during the questioning is right there in front of your face- Classic tell he's BS . Basically that would be your chance to ask the hard follow up questions which you did not. Bobby D DID NOT give any video to Insane Throttle. Not one time has lil dave had his wife on any show to refute that video and the intention behind it. Not once did you ask why an ex federal officer was talking to his wife. If you don't know, a federal agent will not talk to a wife of a target like that unless something is going on. He openly denied he said that until we played the audio from the video. After the shock wore off he was tongue tied and saying I don't remember. We premiered our video of him sitting and having a beer with an ex atf 3 weeks after that motion was filed. This isn't just about the Mongols- This is about the whole MC culture as a whole. The Mongols Lose all major clubs will lose. I also see you didn't ask him about why he was pulled into a judges chamber during the trial because Jurors saw him and john sitting together at the coffee shop all the time. Had a lot of opportunities missed is what i can say.

[@rickdog247]

Thank you

[@cinemillstv]

Insane Throttle you got bad intel bro. Our interview is far from scripted and was Straight off the cuff. On the contrary we wanted to warm up with Dave a little and he said just get to it..We rubbed out the “bowling alley” convo. Your going to be surprised to know that the dude(Cervantes) you see him having beers with is NOT a Fed. Hes a retired cop from El Monte PD and was forced to retire because of two DUI’s - hes an old dude from the neighborhood that bumped into Dave while he was bowling with his grandkids. Think about it? If your going to debrief with an agent why in the hell would you do that in pubic at a bowling alley in your neighborhood. The word on the curb is Bobby D donated to your platform. None of our business but its obvious to us that your suffering from the saying “dont bother me with the facts - I’ve made up my mind” syndrome. Shocked that your taking that approach that a “dual agent” isnt interchangeable with Confidential Informant, etc. How you spun that made us wonder where your bias is coming from. When you lay down with your wife at night you pillow talk. She’s privy to all of Daves headaches. We hear that your a one percenter - if thats the case wouldn’t you want Dave to be the guy to save the patch - hes spent countless thankless hours on behalf of the Mongols MC and all one percenters fighting Goliath. He’s not a rat - hes just good at diplomacy and had to finess the situation. We will be watching your follow up show when you realize the guy Daves having a beer with IS NOT a Fed. You really jumped out the window on that one. Anyways we believe Dave got railroaded and your probably more familiar with the politics than most. But your intel is off on that guy. More will be revealed to you as time progresses.

[@insanethrottlebikernews]

@@cinemillstv I suggest you take a look at the interview we did with him ( Sit through the entire interview as I did yours ) and the very stark difference in his answers and how he fell all over himself. All them cops work with the Feds, especially during Operation Black Rain. "Hes a retired cop from El Monte PD" no one sits with a cop in the scene. Diplomacy SMH. Ask the outfit, russians or mexican mafias if they sit and break bread with cops. But let's address Bobby D. No, that's some lil Dave BS because he got caught up bad in our interview and has to spin it that Bobby D donates to our platform. He's looking for a fall guy. His hands were caught in the cookie jar. He was paying minimums on the fines each month, after he left , the club paid off that fine in 3 months. The estimated income of the Mongols on just monthly dues is 120k, not including the patch money, parties and chapter fees. He left them with 12k. This isn't including the money that was donated in large sums by other clubs for the "Save the Patch." At the trial he had to be brought into the judges chambers because jurors would always see him with John. There is no diplomacy while your club is going through a RICO trial . You don't sit with the cop trying to bring you down during a trial like that. He wore that club prison patch. He didn't do time for the club, his charges predate his membership in the club. A simple background check on him proves that. He plays the victim, but what about all those he kicked out of the club for challenging him and asking questions? They didn't get the due process hes so longing for. I get it's easy to be thrown off because he talks a good game. As for pillow talk, NO WOMAN should be rivy to club business because you get a situation like he's in now. And you're correct, more will come out in time and not just his side of the story. But please, check out our interview with him and see if your stance still is the same.

[@ductape9128]

@@insanethrottlebikernews im with you a 100% no 1% sits with cops period!!!! ML&R Hollywood

[@insanethrottlebikernews]

@@ductape9128 Got that right #ROCKON

[@erichernandez436]

WHY HAVENT YOU FOUGHT BOBBY D 4 DOING YOU DIRTY

[@armandoolivares1833]

I bet that if you get him mad he goes full queen,check out mad tv gay mob boss

[@Socal71]

BIG HANK WATCHING FROM SAN FRANCISCO ( MISSION DISTRICT) Orale Dave ! Give Annie hug for me home boy !!

[@817estevanS]

Bro code is real you never enter a home when it's just the wife home

[@cinemillstv]

100 percent Facts!!!

[@Jeff_Fro72]

This was a very dope interview thank you