Lilith is Eve!? Hazbin Hotel Theory & Real Eden Lore!

[@stewartann816]

In the split seconds you see Charlie scroll through her phone contacts list to her dad's number, you can see other demon names. SAMAEL is one of her contacts, as well as AMON and AZAZEL so maybe we'll see them too?

[@dominiklange8382]

That would be so great! Tho arnt at least two of them archangles, at least normaly

[@LewisRJHope]

They're all fallen angels in classical angelology@@dominiklange8382

[@10_ow]

nah amon and azazel r a part of the 72 demons in the ars goetia. and samael is a fallen angel iirc

[@dumbly-stupid]

​@@10_ow but didn't they use samael for Lucifers origins

[@sophiafrost3786]

I saw that! She also had Belphegor in her contacts. We haven’t really seen the Sloth ring in Hellva Boss or her reveal yet. Just that she’s a girl according to Queen Bee

[@black-shadow-eclipse]

Regardless of the connection between Lilith and Eve, I hope that Lilith won't end up being an antagonist. In the family pictures she looks like a sweet person, who loves her husband and daughter. And please is the separation between her and Lucifer just temporary or has something to do with her disappearance, because I want Lucifer and Lilith to get together again and be a lovey-dovey couple. Let the Morningstars be one happy family!

[@0mtrebellcyury993]

Yeah like we already have an evil mom character in the hellaverse which is stella( stolas ex wife that hired striker to kill him)

[@tobsonasanya4765]

I mean that is just one thing lol​@0mtrebellcyury993

[@EYYYYYJustin]

Regardless of the connection between Lilith and Eve, I hope Lilith will end up being a villain.

[@dominiklange8382]

Cant imagen Lilith as a villian. Really hope the livestream lore is still true and King and queen of hell a loveing powercouple

[@geofkearz4242]

happier ending? for demon like them? wrong hell, wrong demon...

[@MaegAnne]

I think what we're going to find out is that Lilith and Lucifer were trying to help Eve escape the unhealthy relationship with Adam by giving her free will and everything blew up.

[@adonaimelles2317]

Wait according to the Bible Adam and Eve and Lilith already had free will the Apple was the Apple of knowledge of good and evil why was Lilith able to leave Adam if she didn't have free will

[@daniellewillis2767]

THAT makes sense! Adam is a DICK(master!), lol

[@jab3020]

"giving her free will" they forced her to eat the apple as in feed it to her by force the apple of forbidden knowledge ? ok duuuude

[@tobsonasanya4765]

​@@jab3020did they force her lol

[@jab3020]

@@tobsonasanya4765 thats what his saying "giving her free will" so she didnt have it before eating so they forced her to eat it

[@dracorexion]

I'm not really convinced that the two are the same character, but I do think they're probably allied in same way. Lilith probably convinced Lucifer to give Eve the fruit of knowledge so Eve could be free of Adam's control, only to later find out that Eve still loved Adam regardless. I do find it curious how Adam never mentions Eve himself, and I wonder if the exterminations actually started in part because Adam believed Lucifer or Lilith had something to do with Eve not manifesting in Heaven upon her death. His entire persona could just be a mask he wears to hide his own worry over his second wife's disappearance.

[@elfenlied_girl1238]

That. The first paragraph, Eve still loves Adam, it would make sense for her to replace Lilith, a lot of people are saying that Eve may be disguised as Lilith, I just don’t believe that Lilith could be evil when Charlie talked so positive about her

[@memnarch129]

@@elfenlied_girl1238 But her positivity is mostly from the story she has read and what shes been told. It IS possible Lucifer, being the protective father he is, constructed those positive stories about Lilith to protect Charlie from the truth.

[@skyrogue1977]

Imagine when we get Lilith and she’s voiced by Maryl Streep.

[@tiagodagostini]

THink she woudl be too expensive for that.

[@yesikanarvaez5027]

Or Amy Lee

[@kingjb554]

That's like when Steven Universe had Pattie LuPone and Christine Ebersole. That'd be so much money

[@PRsweetness]

I was reading a thing that I'm not sure if it was true but stated Vivzipop said Lady Gaga is the voice in her head for Lilith

[@brissadlr9939]

You mean the one who voiced the ant queen from The Ant Bully?!

[@Violetharper-tw9vl]

This is just a small detail that I noticed but when Lilith hair moves in the first few scenes her hair goes up and down somewhat like an angel but when she eats the Apple her hair goes side to side like a snake

[@NekoDragon]

I have the theory since episode 5 that Alastor has a specific ulterior motive helping Charlie. Taking the pilot in, Alastor heard from Charlie's plans on the news and he was trying to make a Deal with her. Him being on someone's leash, likely Lilith, made me come to the conclusion: Alastor is waiting for a chance to get a hold of Charlie's soul to exchange it for his own with Lilith.

[@millgiass]

My theory is that Alastor got all his amazing power FROM Lilith directly. Which is how he elevated to his position rapidly and seemingly out of nowhere. Going from being a nobody to a top Overlord over night. But I also agree that he's trying to use Charlie as leverage to free his soul.

[@thestoneddog]

I think he might believe that if redemption is possible, it is the back door he is looking for. His favor from Charlie might well have something to do with gaming the system.

[@brownie9085]

Charlie is a hellborn she doesn't have a soul unlike sinners

[@GendoRokabundi]

Adding to the Lilith angle, he shows up at the hotel immediately after Charlie gets done leaving her phone message to her mother. Even if it’s a coincidence, and not Alastor being ‘told’ to help Charlie by Lilith, it certainly juxtaposes her asking her mother for help, and him showing up to basically provide that assistance.

[@globbyakaweirdjellyguy954]

I like the theory of Eve being Roo and her having done something to Lilith/replaced her.🤔 Whether that turns out to be true or not, I hope Lilith is at most a complex character possibly doing bad things for good reasons and not a straight up villain bent on absolute power.😥 I wouldn’t be surprised if the last moment of the season finale will show where Lilith is and she’ll smiling wickedly like on the trading card.🤔

[@Seraphim_1172]

Well, good news. We DO get to know where she is!

[@stormnewport4219]

Okay who is roo is she Rosie or someone else because I’ve seen that name a couple times and it has confused me

[@globbyakaweirdjellyguy954]

@@stormnewport4219 She’s a character that was shown a few years ago in a tweet (I believe) and is supposed to be “The Root of All Evil,” so major villain in the future and her symbol has shown up a couple times in “Helluva Boss” and in the pilot.

[@stormnewport4219]

@@globbyakaweirdjellyguy954 thank you so much I appreciate it

[@elfenlied_girl1238]

According to the original tale, Lilith left Eden because of Adam, and her stating she was Adam’s equal because they were made from the same soil but Adam and god thought otherwise so she left. Lilith didn’t regret anything, if anything god sent angels after her to return but she didn’t, not to mention she’s a baby killer so why would heaven want her back? It wouldn’t make sense for her to return to the very place that made her nothing in the eyes of god, so it would make more sense if it was Eve, cause in eves eyes she made a mistake, one that god could’ve forgiven her by especially since Adam ate the fruit as well, but who knows, maybe the real Lilith went missing because of Eve

[@yunknown9100]

Lilith is also in sumerian mythology as lilitu, for example, the epic of gilgamesh as a goddess of the wild and darkness. She was use to explain sickness and the night and what people in sumerian fear and female sexality along with temptation.

[@user-something19]

And wet dreams!

[@kingdingaling6516]

Either way in the intro, Charlie said while Lucifer lost hope Lilith thrived, empowering Hell with her songs. All while looking questionably sus. So maybe Lilith at the very least is an unintentional villain.

[@Klombolord1]

Impcut make a theory about Alastor trying to make a deal with charlie

[@grammy_hnng]

whats the magic word?

[@2MelissaSue]

Allies

[@Klombolord1]

@grammy_hnng Please

[@r.o.b5362]

Now that season one is over, do you not think Adam could now be reborn as a sinner for him to learn a lesson? If Ser Pentious died and became an angel/winner, do you not think the opposite could happen to Adam in season 2?

[@yasnakhodadi1001]

Well he was killed by an angelic weapon which is stated that is the only thing that kills a soul permanently so his reincarnation would make a plot hole in the story but there are some details that fans believe are foreshadowing his reborn: His ears! He is the only character in hazbin hotel to have human ears, we see neither sinners and demons nor winners and angles have human ears, only him. It may means his not a soul but instead he's a human yet...and when he was killed by niffty, it was his first death...and also Viz has changed the plot based on fan's theories many times (such as changing sir pentious character and making him and cherry a couple) so it's very likely he will come back, with a good reason to fill the hole

[@SoulOfJustice1994]

Here is a way out there theory: When Eve consumed the fruit, she became the Root of All Evil. We don't hear anything about her after the story Charlie tells at the start. Where did she go?

[@tmacm2237]

What if someone told Lilith she had to leave to protect Lucifer and/or Charlie? What if Adam promised not to kill Charlie if Lilith left her family?

[@fruity4820]

Nah, Adam isn't high ranking or powerful enough to go through with such a threat, Lucifer is a full on seraphim, even if he is a fallen one. but maybe someone else, higher up in heaven, maybe heaven didn't like how much of a power couple Lilith and Lucifer are, and maybe they never believed they could actually produce children of their own, so as soon as charlie was born, heaven started to frick out that Lucifer will be able to sire his own half-seraphim army and rise up against them, so it totally make sense for them to want Lilith and Lucifer to split

[@reloadreload9772]

She's still in heaven as seen in today's drop :)

[@StarvingWolff]

​@@reloadreload9772 Read his comment and think again, you didnt understand.

[@TheRevanchist]

This is what I think. No crazy fan theory of her making a deal with Alastor ot anything. Otherwise Al would've made mince meat out of Adam.

[@LemonBomb24]

Yea I can't get behind that one, Adam was completely dead set on kill everyone at the Hotel, including Charlie. Lilith is going to be the next villain, probably regretting ever siding with Lucifer and regrets leaving Eden for free will.

[@goddessbettyd5614]

I don’t even think Eve and Lilith are the same person, because when I heard was Lilith refuse to submit to Adam, because she didn’t like him that’s why god created Eve to be the perfect second wife to Adam, but in the end, the two were punished from eating from the forbidden fruit of knowledge.

[@historymaker4894]

Lucifer also mentions he "did" both of Adam's wifes.

[@elfenlied_girl1238]

I doubt it, Adam is STILL in heaven, I don’t think Lilith would have a reason to go back to heaven

[@racheldereje3592]

El jardín del Edén no es in el cielo, es un jardín en la tierra. Además, es culpa de Adán que perdió a Eva en el jardín cuando todavía estaban juntos para siempre.

[@revenge0028]

​@@historymaker4894 I still can't belive how many people actually think Lucifer and Eve cheated on Lilith and Adam. He was obviously talking about the apple but also how he banged his first wife and also making fun of him. That was obviously a taunt people just think that way because they don't like Adam which is childish

[@micheleolivier8270]

I like the idea of Roo being Eve, but my theory is that Eve might be carrier or a host for the embodiment of evil,l which is Roo. Roo is the embodiment of the apple which eve ate.

[@jeremy1860]

I've seen so many theories floating about regarding these characters, I'm just bracing myself for what might actually be revealed at the end 😅

[@mcpyronite5830]

I mean when adam is facing lucifer, lucifer mocks him and refer to the two woman as different individuals

[@toy1106392]

I mean when he (Lucifer*) is fighting Adam he refers to them as two different people. I hope the show sets Lilith up to be the bad guy but then it actually ends up being Eve. Or they’re working together as one entity would be interesting. Idk after watching this and helluva boss I really just want ONE person with a decent family situation. I really don’t want her to be the villain

[@HS_TheWriter-ij3xq]

If this is true I wonder if the deadly sins were formerly the 7 virtues. They were just disillusioned when they entered hell that they embodied the opposition of their original virtue. It could explain why Ozzie and Bee are sometimes portrayed as not as sinful as they let on

[@CartoonUniverse]

What is your favorite crazy lore to learn today? Are you guys ready for my MEGA LORE video for the end of the season?

[@Klombolord1]

Yep

[@From_da_hood21]

Your videos are awesome been watching for 3 years

[@zakirstocks9514]

Vaggie is the Former Fallen Angel/Exorcist

[@DaLegoMan.]

I Am Ready!!

[@daraghokane4236]

Debate Nucks Tuko on this show loser has to delate there KZbin channel winner gets all there subs, not sure how you lose a conversation

[@MurderLamb]

Love cartoon universes theory’s they make my day :D

[@jang-xo6ye]

What I want to know is how Adam is the first human soul in heaven when it should be Able. Did Adam somehow die before Cain killed him.

[@jab3020]

able and cain dont exist in the story....

[@The-Busy-Beeeee]

​@@jab3020thats a violation

[@jab3020]

@@The-Busy-Beeeee violation of what exactly ?

[@The-Busy-Beeeee]

@@jab3020 of Adam’s eight to life Ig idk 💀💀💀I just thought it was funny pfff

[@skull8534]

@@jab3020 how do you know did the creator said something

[@NightmareSun_]

One thing that I noticed is how "eve" looked/ smiled at the Apple givin by lucifer but also lilith looking/smiling on her trading card. Both have a similar smile and look.

[@reymiramos9152]

So if Lilith is eve would that make every human on earth, hell and heaven Charlie's half siblings and that technically means when ever extermination day comes Charlie's watching her brothers and sisters die over and over again?

[@ATRAXXUSA]

No, more like very distant nieces and nephews. To be Charlies siblings they would have to be the children of Lilith/Eve and/or Lucifer.

[@InfyFish]

I'd honestly be a bit disappointed if they were the same character. It just doesn't feel right 😭 Edit: Okay! From the looks of it (I will not explain or spoil) They are highly NOT the same character from what was said in one of the newer eps

[@smd1876]

Same

[@Jayce-verse]

Yes!! I hope they aren't the same person.

[@JanieJonz]

I'm curious what people's thoughts are on the reasoning behind why Charlie's memories have her mother's face as blank... I'm wondering how that ties in with Eve somehow, or if it's just there to block us from understanding the family dynamic too early on in the plot.

[@theredstonerecognizer9241]

I think that the way you get into heaven in the show is to be more closely related to the line of Able in the Bible stated to be the line of good while Cain was a line of evil. this is the reason that they don't know who gets into heaven or hell it's literally just whoever you're more closely related to.

[@Knight41b]

Good theory. My own theory is that souls can either be Dark or Light. Light = Heaven / Dark = Hell which is determined from the moment a human is born (in the HH verse).

[@theredstonerecognizer9241]

I like that too it could literally be the same theory honestly because they could just be more related to one or the other. I've thought this might explain why there are have entire families in hell for some reason when it should be more of a split between heaven and hell.

[@weeee2457]

​@@theredstonerecognizer9241 i doubt that is true considering angel dust's sister is in heaven

[@MakotoOPT]

Whats poetic in a way is everyone complains that hazbin hotel constantly talks about dads and every sinner there was fighting adam which is technically their dad because he was the first human

[@jace_Henderson]

Spoilers for 7 and 8. Don’t continue if you haven’t seen 7 or 8 and/or care about spoilers. Theories that Lilith is an antagonist, based off the end of ep 8 COULD be correct! Adam was tied to Lilith. Not Alastor, though maybe possible she somehow has both Adam and Alastor tied to her but idk if it would make sense. Now, the reasons why she is in heaven and tied to Adam is this shows next biggest question.

[@prophetchosen862]

If Lilith doesn’t own his soul, the only other person I can think of is Satan, since we see his Silhouette in the pilot beginning

[@ShamanZ-ji9qu]

@@prophetchosen862 what if Alastor was a son of Satan.

[@cagedxcanary2820]

I don't feel like seeing her at the end proves she is the antagonist. I feel like there is more to why she is there probably more than Lute and Adam even knew.

[@LuciferAxolotl]

they are seperate due to Lucifer himself in the show boasting to adam that both his wives liked what he had to offer

[@officechair22]

In Kabbalah, Lilith was in the "cities of sea" where she dwelled because she went away after Adam wants her to be his inferior but Lilith wanted to be equal with him. This explains why we see her at a sea area/beach.

[@GKCanman]

I think we should all appreciate the fact that Lilith's sin was wanting to be on top during sex.

[@JohnGrandline]

hot

[@unknownperson2189]

I appreciate the amount of research that went into this video. It is very well done

[@Haz-009]

This brilliant man is asking the REAL questions right now.

[@Terastas]

I'm sorry, but 8:11 made me laugh. Because there's nobody in the background. "Ugh. Impcut's having one of his theology fangasms again." (everybody up and leaves)

[@LordZadrenoss]

I love that "demons call me 'Impcut'" line! such great writing!

[@JDPlays7318]

So, I have a theory on Lilith. That theory is Lilith has been at the hotel this whole time and is the key or cat that is running around the hotel. The only reason I came to this theory is because the key/cat doesn't really do much when the visitors come to the hotel, yet when Lucifer shows up it runs up and rubs against his legs. Lucifer making comment about "a cat" and petting it with a surprise. Lucifer acted like he had never seen this cat before, unlike the two winged goats that later came up to Lucifer. I know it's a stretch, but it could make sense that Lilith is still watching over her daughter, just in a different form.

[@lisahoshowsky4251]

Ooh I like this. I don’t know if I truly think it’ll happen but it’s one of the more interesting and still plausible theories I’ve seen. I did think it was odd that the cat hasn’t had a huge presence and yet seems like it’s a “key” plot point that’s yet to be touched. Right now it bothers me that it’s been shown but doesn’t have a true spot in the narrative but if you go by Chekhov’s G-n theory it could be that it’s been introduced to play a huge part later, and maybe Lilith makes sense.

[@dead_necromancer]

Vizzie has said that the cat is a physical embodiment of the hotel which is why she turns into the key there’s not much lore so far it’s just been a cute little merch thing but I like your idea a lot

[@animangle]

I really like this idea :D Although, when Lucifer came to the hotel he said "kiki" the name of the cat. It seems like he knows the cat BUT that would make no sense because I thought Lucifer hadn't been to the hotel before.

[@dead_necromancer]

Well the hotel was her parents and she just took it over as her own so he could know the demon which is kiki we even see Charlie at the house with kiki in key and cat form so i say he definitely knows kiki but just isn’t as invested as he is with razzle and dazzle

[@Seraphim_1172]

The cat is the physical embodiment of the Hotel itself, and from today's episodes we know Lilith is in heaven and most likely has been for the last 7 years.

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Lucifer refers to Lilith and Eve as separate entities when he mocks Adam so I think we have to assume they are separate. However, there are Hazbin Hotel theories that the "Lilith" we see in the Season 1 finale is actually Eve disguised as Lilith, who was (unfairly) sent to hell for eating the Apple. It might explain why (Fake!)Lilith made a deal with Adam to ascend as Adam would likely have much more fondness for Eve (mother of his children) than he would for Lilith and would be more willing to bend rules to help her leave Hell. Also it makes sense that Eve and Lilith would look alike as they would probably be sisters.

[@nicksugar253]

I wanna point something out i noticed. In the finale lucifer tells Adam his first wife liked what he had to offer and so did the second bow chicha wow wow. Im convinced it is possible lucifer cheated on lilth, and that's what convinced her to leave and make a deal with Adam. Can you imagine staying in the realm with your ex constantly having to see and think about them.

[@alwlll9151]

You should make a video on if there are possible heaven born species, like there are Hellborn species, such as the imps and hell hounds. Do they have their own societal hierarchy up there? Or a video analyzing the different types of angels we’ve seen!

[@prophetchosen862]

We know there are with the cherubs we’ve seen in helluva boss. We can assume similar to how sinners can’t leave hell, “winners” can’t leave heaven.

[@lmorgan5872]

I personally was wondering if Lute was eve

[@CJF-k3w]

Same

[@maykstuff]

Lilith gone for 7 years Alastair gone for 7 years and under a deal with someone? Hmmm… I wonder who

[@issnake1109]

You know, this may be a super long shot but what if Adam wasn’t accepted into Heaven right away? He’s different than every other angel there. He has a strange reverse lit face, and large horns. What if Adam was the original redeemed sinner?

[@Alekdrina]

The show has clearly implied 2 different characters. I wish we had seen more interaction with Adam and Lilith or Eve and Lucifer. But Lucifer even suggested he banged both... which... I dunno how that plays into a timeline. What the heck is all their relationships!

[@cassiehoffman5858]

I imagined this fan theory being more along the lines of Eve is replacing Lilith, and that Lilith is somewhere else entirely. That doesn’t seem to be the big reveal that the show will take but I hope that Lilith isn’t the horrible person that it’s setting up to be.

[@cagedxcanary2820]

Even if Eve isn't behind it all I still don't think I believe Lilith is the big bad. It will be lazy writing if they take that route. I think more is going on than we know right now.

[@kaytea365]

In the intro to the show when Charlie is explaining everything, Lillith is standing behind Lucifer while he gives her the apple. So there were two separate people at that point, and in the finale, Lucifer specifically mentions Adam's second wife also not hating what he had to offer. So it wouldn't make sense that they are now suddenly the same person. I find it more plausible that while Lillith is in Heaven for whatever reason, Eve probably disappeared and is either secretly a villain bc she is pissed at what happened after she had the fruit of knowledge, or that she is just in hiding trying to live her afterlife without dealing with Lucifer and the higher powered demons and Adam and the higher powered Angels.

[@juwyie7541]

Lucifer makes a dig at Adam during their early fight when Adam was insulting Lucifer about how Humanity thinks his the worst, and Lucifer firing back about how Adams first two wifes (eve and Lilith) liked what he had to offer- followed by hip banging in the air haha

[@mysticmother3112]

I'm curious how this take on Lilith and Eve will change now that Lucifer has confirmed that Adam had two different wives. Along with the information we got at the end from Lute talking to Lilith in heaven.

[@GOLDHAJIKVONGOLA]

the line " well you frist wife didnt seem to hate what i had to offer.....or the second. bow chika vow wow" implies that lucifer did stole both wife or at least had one nigth stand with eve. probally resulting on cain.

[@taylormadealpha]

Lilith is Adam's first wife in some Mesopotamian and early Jewish traditions or tellings. Born from the same dust as Adam, she refused to submit to Adam and thus a second wife was created from Adam's rib. Some say she is the woman implied in Gen 1:27. I think Viziepop told the story of Eden from this angle and I thought the show did it very well. Of course, some things are different but it's very close.

[@antobella2]

I don't think so because Lucifer explains in the last episode that he's done the horizontal mambo with both Eve and Lilith and Adam doesn't dispute that, so they must be different people

[@Hotshojo15]

But Lucifer clearly says he has slept with Lilith AND Eve, mentioning Adams first and second wife. So how do u think they could be the same entity? I am not sure, but so far I guess they are indeed two very own people.

[@Etiree]

My theory is that Eve and Lilith are secretly working together for something. Maybe Eve and Lilith worked out a deal where Eve would disguise herself as Lilith for a while and Lilith would disguise herself as someone else, (Probably Rosie?). This would explain why Alastor and Rosie have a very close connection to each other. Maybe Rosie/Lilith made a deal with Alastor to look after the hotel and Charlie. Now I don’t know what Eve’s whole deal is, but we can reasonably assume that it’s not particularly pleasant. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@jojosparkels6962]

How we all feeling after seeing Eve or Lilith at the end of season 1

[@marcosrangel2988]

That is Lilith at the end but brooooo why Sir. Pentious I’m mad depressed because lowkey one of the best characters and he died as a joke but hey look Heaven as a society didn’t know what gets sinners in Heaven but Heaven automatically put Sr. Pentious I’m Heaven so this could either be God or Heaven as a rule since Sera was shocked to see Sr. Pentious go up to heaven. Unless Adam teleported Sr. Pentious into Heaven Also I loved that Adam V Alastor fight

[@Urmom-hg6by]

I Wonder why she wanted Adam killed cause she only seemed to do the deal for Lute. Unless Lute is more important than she is. But I guess she might really be the villain.

[@terry2308]

​@@Urmom-hg6byyeah what if lute is eve and thats why shes in charge now🤭

[@cagedxcanary2820]

​@@Urmom-hg6by I took it more as she HAD a deal with Adam but now that he is dead it's now null and void.

[@mangaanimefan3089]

5:44 😂That just made Lucifer's dig that much more funny!

[@SirToaster9330]

I always loved it how now that the show released, pretty much every fan theory ever has been disproven and false.

[@CartoonUniverse]

Weird, seemed like so many of the fan theories were true.

[@SirToaster9330]

@@CartoonUniverse the only one I know was true was Vaggie being a fallen angel, I think you covered that a few years back

[@Vagueusername16052]

@@SirToaster9330That and what her full name actually is, That theory was confirmed too

[@kingdingaling6516]

The show is still pretty predictable though.

[@Sonikgav]

Well based on the opening scene alone, how did Lilith Leave or even Defy Adam before Lucifer gave Eve free Will?

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

Bro pats to Adam for being relatively civil With Charlie I don’t know if I could even tolerate my ex kid from her cheating from me come to me with a proposal.

[@The-Busy-Beeeee]

Bro he's a complete man whore I doubt he even cares

[@skull8534]

that is probably one of the reason he is in heaven

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

facts sad he will be seen as a villian due to Charlies Dany like world veiw @@skull8534

[@Nevercleangutters]

Alastor's power is derived from some faux voodoo... the only other character linked to these symbols is the Root of All Evil (see Helluva Boss ep 1 where the woman tries to burn Blitz and Millie on a totem with Roo's symbol and voodoo symbols surrounding them). I expect that Eve is the Root of all Evil (Eve-ill). I'm unsure if Lilith is working with Roo, or hiding, but I do think that the Lilith we've seen in the show with no face is not actually Lilith. As to what that means I'm still unsure.

[@strawberryhellcat4738]

O.M.G. Just watched the last two episodes! You all are going to love them!! The only spoiler I'll post is that the Alastor fan-girl in me is smiling and breathing a sigh of relief.

[@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982]

Wait if Lilith is Eve, does it mean that Lilith would be the main villain in Season 2, I hope not because she seems like a protective mother of Charlie, but we just don't know what their relationship is like. I hope its not toxic.😨

[@bagon_the_bacon]

Dont worry at least for season 2 the main villain is confirmed to be the Vees

[@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982]

@@bagon_the_bacon Oh okay. Thanks for telling me.😬

[@Seraphim_1172]

Lilith might not be the main villan, but she's definitely got something weird going on. After all, she's been chilling up in heaven for the last 7 years and apparently wanted Adam dead for some reason?

[@bagon_the_bacon]

@@Seraphim_1172 I mean I never said she won't be a more background villain of season 2 or a main villain of S3 but she won't be at least for season 2

[@jmfkage]

so in the latest episode lucifer taunts adam about both eve and lilith

[@2222nova3]

Well...spoiler for anyone reading. Lilith is in heaven, its basically confirmed that alastor and lilith have no deal at this point. And based on the colors of alastors magic....he has a contract with someone in the von Eldritch family. Before his death is my assumption. Which explains his power when he entered hell. The von Eldritch family is close to the morning stars based on the pic in the background of episode 5. The question now is the nature of alastors deal.

[@maximillianhibbs1523]

The more I think about the final scene of Ep 8 the more I think what if Loot is Eve? Why would she and Lilith ever make a deal. What's her reason for the hatred of Adam, which they seem to share. Also all of the exorcist are descendent of Adam and Eve came after Lilith. It is an interesting thing to think indeed

[@zakirstocks9514]

This I Absolutely must know. This is very Interesting Lore for *Hazbin Hotel!*

[@WorriorXD]

This theroy is incorrect because Lucifer said he did the deed with eve as adams second wife as well as Lilith.

[@Niklas.the.13th.]

Never thought this channel would become a bible course.

[@CartoonUniverse]

its been a bible course for like 5 years now

[@ennardthefuntimepuppet6456]

My pastor-teacher would be proud, lol ​@@CartoonUniverse

[@BoraAria]

no. Lilith is the first woman, and Eve is the second one which Lucifer gave the fruit - hence the snake and apple crown. there are clearly 2 females in the first episode's retelling of how hell came to be and her mother's ruling over it. Go to 0:49 of the original clip by PrimeVideo kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2HXoJWDbseSb6ssi=wT_ul1Ulrkl3mb48

[@justinwalker746]

as far as episode 6, maybe angel wasn't "redeemed" cause val owns his soul?

[@GamerMage2k-kl4iq]

I think so too

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

I like the idea of a Queen Chrysalis and Cadence style idea with Eve having overpowered kidnapped and impersonated Lilith and took her form and trapped the real Lilith somewhere in Hell.

[@jessiestar23]

Based on the 2 new episodes I believe they are two different people. But thats just my own assumptions

[@Blood_Coconut]

watching the finale (SPOILERS!!!!!!!) when Lute is talking to Lilith , she says her name like she's been hiding it, especially because she's in heaven when this takes place. Also when Adam and Lucifer are in the midst of their battle, Lucifer says Adam's first wife(Lilith) "an the second wife." (possibly Eve?)

[@tigerdancer2190]

I wonder if Alastor will do The Worm on a Hook Deal to Charlie. That's when Lucifer has to make deal to Alastor to renegotiate Charlie's Deal to save her like giving up his role as King of the 7 Rings of Hell to Alastor.

[@rileycorwin9621]

What if eve and lilith were two different characters created to look similar, but with different values/perspectives. Maybe that caused confusion with the apple and might explain how one could pose as the other

[@RosadelRay916]

the way the 2 new episode are gonna put u to work for months

[@VerseNaberrie]

I have crazy , definitely not true, theory - Charlie is Eve. I think that in the show, Eve went to hell. But maybe, as Lucifer and Lilith felt gilty about condemning her to eternal punishment, so made her a baby without memory and adopted? Adam and Angels did not recognize her, because she looked and behaved differently than Eve.

[@lisahoshowsky4251]

Hmm, that’s definitely interesting!

[@VerseNaberrie]

@@lisahoshowsky4251 thanks :)

[@skull8534]

haha imagine charlie x adam the internet won't recover

[@VerseNaberrie]

@@skull8534 O_O ... 😱

[@silvestars2112]

How can Eve and Lillith be the same person? I could actually say that Lilith and Eve could be reather sisters, since they are created in same way.

[@JoaoPedro-eq3hj]

Not really cuz eve was created from Adam's rib

[@silvestars2112]

@@JoaoPedro-eq3hj oh yeah, I forgot about that.

[@Kpsoftpaws]

Also I still think Adam is a sinner that was redeemed because he has horns like fizz unlike the rest and he knows what kind of music plays down there. I think he refers to liliths song

[@artwilliams8885]

I think it makes sense that if Adam was the first winner, Eve might have been the first sinner. And by that logic, perhaps she’s already been killed in an extermination.

[@trevy38]

Following recent events I came up with two theories. I have no evidence to back this up but they are: roo is Lilith and roo has alastor on a leash.

[@dracko9809]

She is not Eve. Lucyfer joke to Adam in fithg that she sleep whit Adam all 2 wife. Lilith and eve may look like a sisters.

[@darielgeorge9042]

True lol. It’s very confusing.

[@NJ-tm1vn]

I heard from the q&a that Charlie will get a new outfit at the end maybe to symbolize her growth or maybe a new power she will gain while protecting the hotel or even many her dad letting her take over as queen of hell so she'll gain a regal outfit. I don't expect much for the two episodes besides probably gaining a demon army to fight the angels and revealing to everyone in hell angels can be taken down. So when demons managed to kill a big amount of exterminators I imagine heaven is not gonna take it lieing down

[@codorax]

My theory is Eve is the vessel for Roo AKA The root of all Evil. some one might have already said this, but more than this I think Eve/Roo is the one who actually holds Alastor's "leash".

[@theolob99]

When you realize that Bible have been written to explain why snake doesn't have legs...

[@arianakguerra]

“All it took for Eve to leave Adam was the gift of free will” 💀 That line just hit so hard

[@unidentified5628]

Yep. That’ll do it. Lol

[@bigreaderpike]

Anyone noticed that in the intro of the first episode not the pilot but the episode of the series that when they talk about good there's like this cloudy shape that's got a closed eye and then they talk about evil and it's a much more distinct humanoid shape with either an open eye or wearing glasses it's in red I didn't notice the Cloudy one that I guess representing good with a closed eyelid either being asleep or something the first couple of times I watched the episode

[@kennethferland5579]

I don't see it, we have too many clear references to them as seperate characters with the Hazbin story. Lucifer taunts Adam with a reference to his first AND second wife.

[@josephhood8759]

If the show sets it up so that they're basically like sisters, they could be close to the same character while still being different at the same time.

[@kimyesthatkim4440]

I understand the story but wouldn’t Lilith fleeing the garden first mean humans already had free will? Lilith was human she disobeyed and rejected Adam, that’s an act of free will. So the whole giving the apple to Eve and being tossed seems like he was just the fall guy for gods mistake.

[@Neku628]

Yeah, from what I heard others summarize Lillith's story. She escaped Eden by saying God's true name.

[@tiagodagostini]

all that would mean that Charlie.. is human.... just sister of Cain...

[@The-Busy-Beeeee]

Cain and able aren't in the story apparently

[@Jayce-verse]

Cain and Able pretty much won't appear in the show

[@ladiesman2138]

Are we going to have a radagon and marika situation in hazbin hotel?

[@jelzuku232]

So is it possible that Kane and his brother related to Charlie, since Lucifer also gestures that he got together with Eve and Lilith

[@phaedrasrevenge5807]

I feel like the deal lute was referring to when she was talking to Lilith at the end of episode 8 had to do with Lilith and eve switching spots

[@coolblue32q]

The drama if Adam falls from Grace and has to interact with his ex 😂

[@blackattack1840]

Bro, that's a lotta lore to absorb ngl. 😄 (is THIS how I sound when I'm explaining FNAF to normal people?)

[@dontask996]

Luckier in the show kinda hinted the two are the same when he was saying neither Adam's first or second wife wanted him while also making a sexual innuendo. So it's likely possible.

[@arnold20139]

Thank you for these videos. They are really informative. ❤

[@rodan9773]

I have a Theory that Alastor might actually BE Lilith using a Glamour so she can keep an eye on things with out being interfered with and be helpful to Charlie while making sure Lucifer finally gets reconnected with Charlie throw feeling that Alastor is trying to replace him in some way. Maybe The real Alastor is lying in wait to return for the final Battle or maybe he tried to get her Soul and got annihilated which also would transfer The Soul's he had to her.

[@fruity4820]

Do you ever think about how weird it is that charlie is an only-child(at least as far as we know)? Think about it, lusifer and Lilith been together since the events of the garden of eden, so if we take biblical time-frams thats like, 5000 years? 6000 years? And in all of this time charlie is the only child they managed to produced? Either Lilith and lusifer are the most careful straight couple in exsistance, and they didnt desiared parenthood until recently, and now they are happy with just one kid...OR, it is extrimly rare for angels and humans to have offsprings with each other. Maybe everyone, including lusifer and Lilth themselves, didnt even think it was possible, until charlie showed up