Limited Resources 591 - Strixhaven Set Review: Common and Uncommon

[@cjmckay309]

At 1:29:30 Marshal says "This is definitely high on my list of 'you have to beat me with this before I start doing it myself' type card." That card's name? Teach by Example.

[@geranium44horse]

that cards designer? Albert Einstein

[@unibyte5175]

Love it

[@elGringo69]

cast that before an emergent ultimatum in standard. yikes

[@michaedove3562]

Yeah, LSV is right about it. Its going to be solid because of all the cards that make creatures that are spells + Learn giving you lessons that are sorc/instants + mage-craft triggers. Previous versions of this card had none of that in the sets they were released in.

[@viffaria]

@@geranium44horse LOL You got me good, I laughed hard

[@cariocaemfuria3946]

The level of detail LSV gives on his descriptions without even having playing the set is amazing. I usually arrive at the same conclusions, except that I need to play 10-20 drafts first. Guy is a real master.

[@hbkx5]

It's because he has been playing so long, If you have a good memory you will notice themes in sets repeat themselves as time goes on and if you drafted with then you usually know what to expect.

[@dolfrut]

I really love being able to watch along with these set reviews. Just listening was great but being able to see the cards the whole time and seeing your guy's facial expressions during an explanation really improves the experience. Thanks for the effort!

[@daviddavidson1090]

This set looks fun to draught

[@BjornFriborg]

Niiiiice!

[@ungekb3499]

Theres a lot of cards that LSV said would be bad, that proved to be good! Still an amazing player tho!

[@ernie_hudds]

draft!

[@Freydohh]

Sometimes I watch these videos and think holy crap, I’ve been following these guys for YEARS. Crazy how long we’ve been playing this game. Keep it up fellas.

[@ariariadne]

“Kibler the Hearthstone streamer” Luis at it again as ever

[@JeremyHoffman]

3:45:00. Marshall didn't even react to that description of Magic Hall of Famer Brian "Brian Kibler" Kibler.

[@silpheedTandy]

aw, here we are, pals; it's that time again for the big set review!

[@crypt0gyp5y3]

LSV- ''You're just not going to activate the four mana, tap, draw two that often in any given game'' Marshall- ''You don't know me!? Make hay while the sun shines!'' I laughed out loudly at this. Love ya Marshall. True gamer x

[@Frommerman]

What if we stopped thinking of detention vortex as a removal spell, and started thinking of it as a white, sorcery speed unsummon which makes the creature cost three mana to recast and doesn't work nearly as well on tokens? Wait, that's still terrible.

[@boateye]

I see it more as white's version of a falter effect

[@bigwig8657]

This is shockingly shorter than I woulda guessed given the word count. Marshal must becoming a speed reader.

[@MichaelJohnMAGA]

I imagine the rares/mythics will be much longer lol

[@j.m.3600]

All I wanna do is listen to LSV talk about Magic.

[@jeremyphillips3087]

All I wanna do is zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom and a boom-boom

[@spiritbox9039]

He should host his own podcast on Spotify

[@thewizardsbaker1767]

Knew Marshall would bring up the spider (deadly recluse) the moment Needlethorn Drake showed up on screen. Just surprised we didn’t hear “he always gets his man” - practically Marshall’s catchphrase back in M13.

[@YayapLives]

I like how first day of class is pretty bad in everything except for dredge and then it's terrifying. Figures that only dredge players would be excited over the first day of class. They enjoy the suffering of others.

[@ich3730]

dredge does not play that card afaik. its also pretty good in pauper.

[@YayapLives]

@@ich3730 yeah, at the time it was speculated it would be. Turns out it's more used in infinites with persist and pauper.

[@deraxtmorder6397]

Usually these set reviews are in order of color/color pair...which is much better because you get to know the ideas behind these brand new colleges so much better, since they come 'in one pack'. With this approach you did here, the listeners have to jump around mentally a lot...

[@A2Jmusic]

They start with the "signpost" gold uncommons / commons because they inform you on what the color pairs are trying to do

[@tonyosterloh8708]

Stoked to see this on my feed! Yo Marshall and LSV thanks again for your awesome efforts.

[@paullemay6596]

Not only does LR make me much better at draft, it makes me EXCITED to draft

[@stricks8382]

I agree, the little play-by-play outlook on the cards makes them much more exciting for me

[@keithirwin1280]

The fact that Augury Raven is an example of a C card says a lot about the power creep of commons in the last few years. Not that long ago reprinting phantom monster at uncommon was kind of a big deal.

[@seanmahoney2671]

I wonder why they don't organize this by college and do B/W Cards, White cards, Red/white cards, red card, blue/red cards, blue cards, blue/green cards.... etc. Basically keep it so it flows from college to college.

[@dcnole]

I makes me happy that LSV is on Team Eyetwitch! It's one of the cards I am most excited for in the whole set (and not just for limited).

[@electricmayhem2010]

I feel we might be underrating the +1/+1 counter granting sorceries in Silverquill. There's a lot of creatures in WB where those counters can do work, like the ones that pass on their counters or the one that draws a card.

[@chma1435]

10:42 I think you rather end up with three 2/2 and a 1/1. Wich is still pretty fine

[@bigwig8657]

It won't happen often but Grinning Ignus with grapeshot and magecraft will make for some crazy high rolls.

[@justmagicmostly]

Draught is definitely pronounced like draft, you're right Marshall. LSV's pronunciation is, uh, unique.

[@CharlotteMimic]

LR set reviews make me happy, and Strixhaven looks really fun!

[@austinius2878]

Oh boi grab a drink and a seat bois it's that time again

[@ChrisanthaPerera]

grab a draught!

[@TehFhqwghad]

Wylie Beckert art is really impactful. Their art in zendikar rising stood out so much to me. They've been on my radar ever since and I've been looking out for any cards they get.

[@aaronwilliams7031]

Agreed, Wylie has really become one of my top artists in MTG, love how the art always looks like it's made out of smoke.

[@xenikos99]

How did LSV restrain himself from making an Expanded Anatomy joke

[@zsonohanz]

LSV is leagues above such childish frivolity :)

[@ben_clifford]

@@zsonohanz mmmmmmaybe

[@dr_volberg]

55:20 - It's clearly worded like this to lock in the discount. Otherwise the discount could change if the Djinn's power changes before you play the instant/sorcery.

[@ScottGordon216]

one other thing you could say in hall monitor's defense is that the haste is pretty unimportant for attacking, but it IS relevant in the context of being able to activate the turn you draw/play it where as in the past these "tappers" have usually felt slow. I guess we will have to monitor its playability as the format evolves

[@Qternocq]

Time seriously flies when you're watching these reviews. It's been 4 hours already??

[@ClausRow]

really love the red blue art in this set

[@bisonsama321]

@1:21:35 they even somewhat reversed the trend between the uncommon 2-mana guildmage and the common hybrid card. In Ravnica, guildmages usually did great things on theme with their guild and the hybrid cards were pretty mediocre, but you could only really pick guildmages if you were in their guild and the unexciting hybrids could at list be a 23rd card in other guilds. And in Strixhaven, apprentices are harder-to-cast 2-drops with « meh » upsides, while pledgemages have pretty potent abilities and other schools can make good use of them. So it’s likely that pledgemages will be picked higher ‘cause they can fit in multiple color combinations and are good, while apprentices will most likely sit on your laps in later picks if you’re already in their school since no one else will want to choose their 2nd color or splash specifically for them.

[@nils0a]

8:08 - Gold 1:36:39 - Colorless 1:40:37 - White 2:06:28 - Blue 2:29:49 - Black 2:52:24 - Red 3:12:31 - Green 3:31:00 - Artifact 3:38:44 - Lands

[@bransonwilliams5170]

Thanks, as always for taking time to do these reviews!

[@DrumPH1L]

Like your new setup Marshall! Hope you're loving it

[@falscherhase4456]

Wouldnt it make more sense to go through each college individually instead of going through all 5 pairs in alphabetical order? This way you could make out synergies easier and understand more what the colors are doing.

[@LexStarwalker]

Yes, that would make a lot more sense and be much easier to follow and notice synergies.

[@spiritbox9039]

I held off playing draft in Kaldheim but now I'm really looking forward to it with Strixhaven

[@finalfrontier001]

cuz you get busted cards.

[@zekebanks7876]

Kaldheim draft was actually pretty sweet. But strixhaven looks extra spicy

[@justmagicmostly]

You're missing out; Kaldheim is a great set for drafting.

[@PantherAssaultCannon]

Symmetry Sage: Works on target creature, but is evaluated as if it only effects itself. Pretty big difference.

[@tarekt8427]

alphabetical for the gold cards is a bad way of doing it.

[@clarinet_guy2139]

Thunderous Orator is not an intervening if. It checks upon resolution, but unlike an intervening if, it does not check to be put onto the stack. LSV’s larger point remains though.

[@jeffharper407]

Study break: tap two creatures, learn, instant seems similar to the 2/3 flyer knight from eldrain that had this effect as its adventure, especially if coupled with any of the creature lessons (2/1 flyer for 3, 3/2 spirit for 3, 4/4 elemental for 5.)... Definitely a card I've risen on since I first started mock drafting this set, and starting to think this could be a heavily used card for agro decks.

[@jasminneitzel9067]

Show of Confidence seems like a Magecraft enabler, that triggers for each copy. So if you want a lot of those triggers maybe.

[@MackNJacishopper]

I have done a OHKO (~16 damage) with show of confidence and only 2 other cheap spells on the 2 mana 2/2 that gets +1+0.

[@WBRamsesIII]

I’m just getting out of the gold cards and I forgot about the mono colored cards. I was wondering how the video was so long if we were already on the T’s

[@Seldomheardabout]

Combat Professor- A Spiteful Squad- A- Hunt for specimens- B+ Pigment Storm- A- Professor of symbology- A- Prismari Apprentice- A Lorehold Apprentice is better than it looks. In lorehold aggro spirits (a legit archetype) you can usually finish most decks off, but against a strong deck you struggle to sink the last 5ish damage. With tons of cantrip cards in w/r this is really good for end of turn cantrip-ping for 4, cast another instant on my turn finish you off. Btw you are so fast they may stablize at 5 life while you are at 20+. You have plenty of turns to ping them.

[@XBomyX]

Quandrix Cultivator turn 5 to snag the second blue for counterspell was not the most nut play I made yet, but damn it was satisfying.

[@Belril]

1:49:30 - Luis misses an opportunity to point out that Eager First-Year is “bear-ly” hanging on to her grade.

[@b800294]

I will be very happy If wizards is going to use keyword ward in the place of hexproof as the static ability of creatures that are hard to target. Hexproof works way better as a thing that is granted until end of turn by spending a card, I think this is also true with protection and indestructible. Creatures that just passively destroy interactivity are very bad for limited but if a player has to spend resources to protect them then it requires trade offs in both deck building and play

[@bigpopa8751]

Who also think that they are way too down on Study Break? I mean. Ardenvale Tactician was an awesome card in Eldraine and this is pretty close with all those 3-mana Lesson creatures. Plus you can snag any other Lesson with it as well. It feels very versatile to me.

[@Nightknight1992]

i think the cycle of the 2 colour + hybrid cost cards are designed that way to be splashable into both other houses that share the colours

[@sarahmiller4980]

55:29 For Maelstrom Muse, I think the "as this ability resolves" comes into play if you attack and then Maelstrom Muse dies before you fire off the instant or sorcery. For example, if you're planning to cast a sorcery in main phase 2 and it dies in combat, or if they kill it in .response to declare attack step. Then the Muse has died before the ability resolves. The ability is still around and checks for its power, but finds nothing, so X=0. ( Please correct me if I'm wrong :-) )

[@HingleMcCringleberryPSU]

Against my better judgement I am so compelled to play Square Up. Best name for a combat trick I've ever heard, such a shame it's on a barely playable card. "Swing with my 3/3" "Bad move homie, my 1/1 boutta Square Up"

[@deboozombie23]

36:04 "Exhilarating Elocution" has great synergy with the uncommon silverquill posterboy Killian something.

[@DrDeltaboss]

Not even CFB is safe from the oversimplified logo plague

[@billdoetsch]

Heh, just noticed that the flavor text on Unwilling Ingredient low-key tells you how to use it (feeding it to the Groff).

[@bradspins1140]

The strange mana costs make it significantly easier to get into decks that are basically mono colour. If you’re mainly a green deck but have a few G/B lands then it’s still reasonable to cast on turn 4. If it was GBB and you were in a main green deck you probably wouldn’t play it because double black pipe is really hard to hit most of the time

[@beelor5777]

Resculpt is gonna be good. M21 had the angel version and it was a bad beat when you play it on your thing in response to opponent targeting your thing.

[@thomaskiser3886]

Study break...has had me lose so many games by turn 5 with the counter shenanigans I have seen in this set

[@silpheedTandy]

1:46:04 haha, why does seeing Luis's soapbox on "DON'T PUT THIS F CARD IN YOUR DECK, HOW CAN I GET THIS THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL?!" makes me laugh so much? probably because i can't help but want to be cute and use this card ("ooh, an ability that only opponent's can activate? it's so weird that the card must have *some* use?"), and it feels like Luis is personally directing his scolding at me, haha

[@matthiasdurivet3573]

But what if I detention vortex my other detention vortex, so it's double protected :)

[@proffapoluga2573]

Alright fine I was feeling off about how low they feel about the modal card that makes things frogs or octopuses with different stats cause it's a lesson and you arent guaranteed to have both it and a fractal in play where either mode is a strict upgrade but Sudden Breakthrough floats any color. Forget saving it for a big spell, cash it in for another trick.

[@ben_clifford]

49:25 "Such a bear to handle." I see what you did there.

[@kyleclark707]

The only thing I don't understand is how Professor of Symbology is like Immersturm Predator without a lesson card in your sideboard???

[@Chaotick]

Probably meant Immersturm Raider (2 mana 2/1 with ETB rummage)

[@danielsandefur7364]

Anyone else notice that their aren’t any bounce spells in the set that hit tokens? Makes all the token generation in this set seem SUPER strong

[@benjamincarter6095]

Anyone else notice that the first card reviewed was a bounce spell...

[@danielsandefur7364]

@@benjamincarter6095 fair point but it’s an uncommon and 5 mana more importantly. The tokens in this set are going to be crazy strong

[@benjamincarter6095]

@@danielsandefur7364 Sorry, I agree with the sentiment, but after an hour of watching these two the inner smart ass in me couldn't resist.

[@danielsandefur7364]

@@benjamincarter6095 oh no it’s fine, I totally forgot about that card, I was 3 hours in when I noticed

[@faceoctopus4571]

Was hoping they would say if the activated ability of the dual land cycle was good enough that if you should put it in if it isn't double on color.

[@ben_clifford]

3:26:25 The lack of tap also means it can learn the turn you drop this

[@Bob-fe8qn]

There are so many flyers?!!! The frick. This is going to be interesting

[@alamaute]

F is too harsh for clever lumimancer. I had 2 in my 7-0 draft. 15 lands low curve boros deck. I was always happy to see it in my opener. In the right deck c+ to b.

[@Nolu-Shizmat]

One thing they forgot is that Eager first-year do be lookin like a snacc. That sounded less creepy before typing it... oh well.

[@robertotorres3550]

Since the uncommons mystical archive cards have the same chance of appearence than the normal uncommos, would't be better to cover those here?, just a thought

[@M3rett0]

Returned Pastcaller looping with itself will be a good win condition.

[@TavandtheTadpole]

Been waiting for this, thanks as always!

[@SnailArg]

Ready for some good limited content and to watch LSV yawn for 3 hours like in every expansion, lets do this!

[@Tapewars]

I think the big spells might be slightly stronger then we think, due to the mystical archive mana ramping shenanigans

[@Slapdab]

Thanks for making these.

[@akoras3222]

So much value in these, thanks a ton for your great work :)

[@JonathanHarvell]

What do you guys think about adding a link to the show notes with a scryfall link that brings up all of the cards you discuss? Could probably just filter by rarity?

[@Vlad2.47]

Surely you Resculpt your own treasure token in the UR deck most of the time with this card?

[@VinegarAndSaltedFries]

I wonder how often in red taking any color Lesson for the sideboard would be correct with all the treasure.

[@astrolonim2032]

Square Up is not just a waste of good art but also of a good name. Could have been a brilliant pun card.

[@mus0u]

i opened an approach of the second sun while i was building a quandrix deck, and since i had a ton of card draw i decided to splash for it, and i also picked up a teach by example, thinking i could combo it with approach... turns out that doesn't work. don't make my mistake!

[@ZeRedSpy]

Not dividing this review by college was a poor decision. Doesn’t really give LVS and Marshall a chance to pair up all the same colored cards and figure out their synergies, makes them miss on some ratings pretty hard.

[@stonks2686]

New CFB logo looks like gatorade logo, change my mind!

[@jjohansen86]

Well, took me a couple days to have the time to fully work through this, but I have to say... I'm skeptical about Lorehold, it feels like it's a bit too finnicky, too many things that have to come together, like you need a couple Tome Shredders and payoffs to make it do the thing, and an essentially irreplaceable card as your repeatable enabler for all your payoffs worries me. Maybe it'll be fine, but I just have a hard time seeing a draft table supporting two Lorehold players, whereas it feels like the stronger colleges have to do that (since there are essentially only five meaningful color pairs in this set, at a draft table you'll end up having three colleges drafted by two players each and the remaining two colleges drafted by one each). I can't say for sure what the strongest colleges are, but I'm most skeptical of Lorehold right now.

[@ascendingdissent2484]

Cutest couple ever! Excellent content boys.

[@ajfox84]

Does Marshal look at the cards before the review? I know LSV does.

[@scramsby]

Marhsal specifically said in a stream I was watching recently that he tries not to study the cards too much before the review because he wants to have authentic first reactions to the cards in the review.

[@ajfox84]

@@scramsbyThank you. I always wondered, and that's what I thought. It makes the review more entertaining, to see his genuine reaction.

[@MrFaceHead]

Always love these set reviews but I think you've missed the strategy with Silverquill. We'll see.

[@jasminneitzel9067]

Square Up might be straight up pump for 0/0s with counters. Like Fractals, so there might be a little more to it. Still not an exciting card but I feel like that application is worth mentioning.

[@ejiggle]

Very interesting watching this after doing 30ish drafts lol. So hard to know what the meta is before you actually get into it

[@ebehrends]

The rebound from this set will be the best rebound ever.... I personally love that y'all's biggest disagreement I've ever seen over a single card is still within a single letter grade.

[@bigwig8657]

Gonna disagree with lessons going below a D even the bad ones. It just can't be worse than your 24th card really as it isn't in your deck. So even if its applicable 5% of games its still more valuable than like 5 on color cards that you cut and never board in most drafts.

[@pedrodiehl419]

"Pest" must be the funniest word in the world.

[@mkipp271]

3:20:37 it is "draft", Marshall was right

[@CoL_Drake]

now lets hope the rare version doesnt need weeks to come out xD

[@A2Jmusic]

I know it feels like forever since the kaldheim review

[@MrZakuRetro]

I LEARNED A LOT.... THIS TIME

[@AvalonisHere]

BUT CREATURES ARE NOT...LESSSSSOOOOOONS

[@scriptoriumludi5698]

Black keys riff came outta nowhere lol!

[@rogercline5377]

Clarification please: Big Play gives +3/+3 and reach. The +3/+3 is in the form of +2/+2 until end of turn and an additional +1/+1 counter, correct?

[@angrybellsprout]

Should they have had to stand up to prove they are actually covered?

[@xXinsaneboyXx]

This set hasn't come out yet and I can already tell I'm going to like it better than Kaldheim!

[@sliptrix1]

This is hardest draft format I’ve ever done... like I feel stupid drafting it. I have play 5 drafts and went 0-3 in 3 of them.

[@vy1585]

Spend another 4 hour episode to talk about the Mystical Archives too, I dare you.

[@silpheedTandy]

i've heard that any given uncommon mystical archive card appears almost as frequently as any given regular uncommon, so talking about the MAs are probably worth doing

[@ErikLevin]

@@silpheedTandy They will cover them in the next show. 3:42:30

[@danielbrazil5699]

I believe it is Draught, as in “draft” referring to the container in which the draft is held.