Commentary on Etali, I feel so seen... Short story: Played GR aggro elves with Etali at top of curve (FNM draft). Only cast it once, attacked and... 2 lands off the top of our libraries. 😑 Luckily I had a dragon trainer, which was the actual finisher in the deck. Went 3-0, which makes up for all my 2-3 premier drafts on arena (every single stinking foundations draft so far, also 😑).
@joeltucci1916Күн бұрын
1:02:16 well akshually the first version of the rules had both players draw on their first turn, the person going first skipping their first draw was added in a few years later.
@AndrewIsbellКүн бұрын
Thank you. Paul was a great co-host. And he brought out the best in Marshall. I especially loved the insight about how BG didn't work out and all the good points you both made.
@anand132 күн бұрын
I’m shocked Marshall acknowledged shenanigans, and the live cube qualifying. I tweeted at MTO weeks prior about it and of course dead silence
@Peter-qe1yh2 күн бұрын
Via the discussion of Drakuseth, Maw of Flames.... I have to say, I think discussing mana cost in the evaluation of the card is not taking into account the game state when a 7 mana creature will be dropped. Drakuseth will be dropped late game and anyone adding it in will know its a late game drop. So thats an issue, but also arguing 'you drop this for 7 mana and your opponent kills it for 3' doesnt matter at that stage of the game because youre both likely top decking at that point. Late game, mana value doesnt matter. all that matters is what you can top deck. Albeit if youre playing against a draw engine control, then sure, youre fucked. so its still niche. but I dont like the 'mana cost vs mana cost' comparison here. theres more nuance
@matmosmac2 күн бұрын
Valkyrie's Call is a 5-mana do-nothing enchantment, so it gets a John Loucks out of 10.
@JohnGarner-d7i2 күн бұрын
But Paul the cat is a 1/1.
@JohnGarner-d7i2 күн бұрын
The best morbid card doesn't say morbid on it. Its the 3BB 5/3 flying whenever a nontoken creature dies draws a card.
@iSmartMan12 күн бұрын
"You don't see people complaining when the removal is too good." Me: *raises hand* "I'm complaining!"
@iSmartMan12 күн бұрын
"If you attack, they just don't block, and the Morbid does nothing. It's just power and toughness without an ability." So, looked at another way, it's an ability that makes all your other creatures unblockable? After all, if your opponent is scared enough of Morbid to not trade with your creatures, then those creatures may as well be unblockable.
@LazarusIsBackBaby2 күн бұрын
You basically never want to give your opponent a choice if you can avoid it. In this scenario they just pick whatever's better for them.
@garagavia2 күн бұрын
Preposterous Proportions underrated
@eckology0162 күн бұрын
Marshall's comment on Squad Rallier explains why he's not really seeing the vision yet. It's actually not super likely that you'll be able to play the creature you find with just 2 mana. It's basically 50/50. The reason it's so nice in this format is that because 2 power is such a common trait even for many of the more expensive creatures that provide you additional power in other ways, like #1 white common Dazzling Angel, Felidar Savior (which gives you 4 power of stats, but only 2 on the card itself), Prideful Parent, Snarespinner, Billowing Shriekmass, etc.
@Scienceboy0Күн бұрын
@@eckology016 Card advantage is also just very hard to come by in this set. We've gone so long having sets where there's constant mana sinks and card draw, but Foundations has comparatively little outside of blue. The Rallier is pretty expensive repeatable card advantage that you wouldn't have the time or incentive to pay in basically any other set. But Foundations is slow, without much to do with your mana, and without much inherent card advantage from just playing out your normal game plan, so a sink like the Rallier actually has time to shine.
@LordCyfarwydd2 күн бұрын
That’s crazy to hear… I won every prerelease event I played with Green/Black for this set… But I played big stompy green with lots of black removal
@Ominyx2 күн бұрын
the problem with overrun is that green decks, specifically green commons, are weak, so taking it early is a gamble. if this were a set where green wasn't 5th place, that changes everything
@ogolthorp2 күн бұрын
Imo squad rallier is first pickable in weak packs. It just has a super high ceiling, which I think you want to be doing with your first picks.
@gagepursifull76702 күн бұрын
Marshall calling me out like that… 1:10:17
@almogdov2 күн бұрын
My main issue with the set is that this season is extremely long. There are 12 more weeks with this set until the next one. that's a ridiculous amount of weeks for a core-set, especially with Duskmourn being only 7-8 weeks which was very short. The set is fun but it has pretty low replay-ability, I've done about 10 drafts on arena and not seeing myself doing anymore, usually I do 30-50 drafts. It will get boring very quickly and we're planning a various of sets in our local league to spice up this way too long season...
@JohnGarner-d7i2 күн бұрын
I mean I just disagree solely on the fact that I want more time with each set and less sets overall. This format may not be as flashy as of the more recent sets and so may feel more boring. It is a more slow and controlling set so I do get nit everyone enjoys that.
@patrickgonzales78252 күн бұрын
I totally agree. After a few drafts from this set, I’m done. I can’t wait for them to bring back cube or please bring Duskmourn back. It’s gone too soon imo.
@almogdovКүн бұрын
@@JohnGarner-d7i I agree with that sentiment, more time with the sets is what I'm asking as well. Bloom and Dusk had about 8 weeks each only which is a full month less than normal.
@VladdViever2 күн бұрын
Heads up, video description still has LSV's twitter & such instead of Paul's.
@CoL_Drake2 күн бұрын
like 1st day of format i watch people stream and like half of them had hare apparent decks with 5+ hares ... seems way better then you guys give it credit
@HeyApples2 күн бұрын
Dismal backwater also super important for a deck that wants to play (UU) Refute and (BB) Bake into a Pie both on schedule.
@chrisshaw57092 күн бұрын
27:05 is the WG anthem better because of the super efficient removal? It puts a lot more creatures out of range?
@PVDH_magic2 күн бұрын
Had Drakuseth in one of my first drafts, actually had a good time with it as my deck was just a WR good-stuff deck with a lot of solid creatures on a good curve and a lot of lifegain and efficient removal. It was good there, as the deck did want something that could go over the top if needed. Still agree that it isn't a high pick of amazing card, though. That deck also had a Sire of Seven Deaths that I picked up early.. so I was already drafting a deck that could go late, which worked out.
@ogolthorp2 күн бұрын
Yeh I’ve found 7 drops to be totally playable in this set. Obviously you don’t want too many of them, but it’s easy for games to stall out and go long.
@jordyjanssen31272 күн бұрын
I already have a couple of screenshots killing poor magicers with hidetsugus second rite😂
@SessionalSalmon2 күн бұрын
The amulet with nine lives familiar is pretty great. 1 mana to draw a card every turn. Even with the skeleton who recurs, it’s still 3 mana to draw a card. The threaten cards are just icing on top of those.
@SessionalSalmon2 күн бұрын
Do you remember when the bomb uncommon that made 1/1 flyers costed 4 mana?
@guybrushthreepwood81743 күн бұрын
I saw a game of Paul's (from his youtube) where he had exactly 5 mana and he played Micromancer, got his Eaten Alive, then sac'd the micromancer to use eaten alive. that was a cool play.
@markbrierley63672 күн бұрын
An expensive 1 for 2 was a cool play?
@benjaminbarbaro60402 күн бұрын
@@markbrierley6367math doesn’t check out there bud, basically a full priced eaten alive and a 1 for 1
@markbrierley63672 күн бұрын
@@benjaminbarbaro6040 he lost the micromancer or whatever else he sacrificed to the spell.
@benjaminbarbaro6040 you're watching Limited Resources so you understand mana advantage. This is similar. He gave up any of his other potential tutor targets and a creature on board to kill another creature on board and never has the chance to draw the Eaten Alive in future and not spend board presence to cast it. He spent 2 cards to answer 1 card. I agree it was useful, but it was very inefficient.
@AJHornet13 күн бұрын
Great set. I love Core Set magic. Something about it feels like home.
@hopefulhoplite27173 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great show, as always. I have been loving Paul's daily draft vids since he joined KZbin, and love his insights here on LR. Cheers. 😎
@jimboweezer3 күн бұрын
Sheesh, Paul's cut is crisp. Who's your barber Paul?😂
@bradbarnett41113 күн бұрын
they should have made the 180 cards into 12 packs. and given packs based on placement.
@bradbarnett41113 күн бұрын
they said this right after i posted it lol
@RaptieFeathers3 күн бұрын
I'm a mid-tier player, and when in a format with colors this lopsided, what do we even do? It sounds like two of the five colors are unplayable. =\ And what happens when everyone else is taking the good black, white, and blue? It sounds kind of hopeless
@rehdfhdhj3 күн бұрын
If everybody else is taking the good WUB cards, then you build a great Gruul deck. Duh.
@clagen862 күн бұрын
Because of the self correcting nature of draft, if a color is underdrafted due to a perceived power imbalance, you can often get passed a lot of great rare and uncommons in those colors
@ogolthorp2 күн бұрын
Green is still totally playable if you get the strong uncommons and rares. Which you’ll get if nobody in your pod is drafting green.
@josephhatter37733 күн бұрын
I didnt really follow the vintage cube tournament but I got a question. When Marshall was referring that he would change the qualifying method, was he referring to the father son duo that made it? Im not pointing fingers as I don’t really know as an outsider looking in, but it seems like if it’s online its unverifiable who’s actually sitting down at the computer. Seems like it has potential just for someone to double on seats?
@jgmweston3 күн бұрын
Love this set.
@rhinofist13 күн бұрын
Im afraid for Luis' next sign off
@hrmz0273 күн бұрын
You need like time stamps or something.
@Hanslineman3 күн бұрын
Is Marshall saying some of the guys who made it to cube worlds did some shenanigans? Cause if not what is he talking about??
@ValentineGodek3 күн бұрын
I’m unfamiliar with the context, but he’s at the very least suggesting the possibility. Based on what he said, I assume he’s mostly referring to the concept of a group of co-conspirators simultaneously entering the same draft queue, which would enable them to manipulate one or more players’ final cardpools and end up with a deck that is more powerful than the average competition.
@Hanslineman3 күн бұрын
@ Yea I mean im fairly certain he’s talking about the father/son duo in the top 8. Perhaps others but that would make the most sense. I agree it’s strange for two family members to both make it into the top 8 when so many other very very good players did not, but even airing out that insinuation seems a bit much without some evidence.
@RockOfGibralter4203 күн бұрын
Stoked!!! Always such a dope feeling when I log into KZbin and see a new LR episode has dropped 💃
@HJOTech2 күн бұрын
I’m just so sad it’s only two hours and already over.
@Scienceboy03 күн бұрын
Marshall. Please stop ignoring the foils in the packs. Every pack has a foil now and they are draftable. It's the same on Arena, it's just not shown as foil because there are no foils on Arena.
@evaneverett41983 күн бұрын
Almost makes me wish they did the bullshit parallax style as a foil in boosters. Especially since everything has alt arts anymore
@maxkraus96142 күн бұрын
Honestly this doesn't matter to me. Just to weigh in, I can't imagine this would improve the show at all
@ericpepin26852 күн бұрын
The foils are part of all packs. It's the reason duplicates show on arena and why there are sometimes multiple rares in packs
@DarklordZagarna3 күн бұрын
Luis is on paternity leave?
@shepherdsgamingrun3 күн бұрын
He was at the hospital around the time of the rare + mythic review.
@RockOfGibralter4203 күн бұрын
Yes
@ogolthorp2 күн бұрын
They just had twins
@Tuchpi3 күн бұрын
2nd week of IRL draft tomorrow and we're at format overview 😮
@ben_clifford2 күн бұрын
This is a re-branding of "First Impressions"
@KayZ_193 күн бұрын
"How is Paul going to steal Luis' thunder on this show?" Paul: "Easily."
@FrankPalombo3 күн бұрын
Looking forward to this one!
@scottlongwell52213 күн бұрын
Enjoying the set so far. I found out real quick games go longer and to save my removal for the couple Bombs that come near the end of the game that my opponent plays. Games have felt very swingy. Usually whoever gets the bomb dare to stick wins
@JoeNeutrino3 күн бұрын
Why does the best drafting channel on KZbin have less than 50k subs?
@RockOfGibralter4203 күн бұрын
Ultimate grixis cheons
@muttieb4 күн бұрын
Love the new layout! Really made it easier to follow along!
@jeremyrosellini36034 күн бұрын
Well I feel just like a child. Well I feel just like a child. Well I just feel like a child. From my womb to my tomb, I guess I'll always be a child. listened to this for the 777th time while watching this video...
@DadsDrafts4 күн бұрын
About Genesis Wave.. I had a doubling season on the board. I cast Genesis Wave for x4. I hit the Hydra with landfall and 3 lands... I got a 7 mana 54/54 with trample.. 😂 didn't record it ofc...
@mrd17035 күн бұрын
I'm confused, i don't know if there were more but right at the start, there's 3 red 3 drop rares that aren't talked about: Ball Lightning, Harmless Offer, and Taurean Mauler.. are they not part of the regular set? why'd we skip those, were there more that got missed?
@RaptieFeathers5 күн бұрын
I've found that Crackling Cyclops is one of the foundational cards in U/R-I want 2 or 3 of them. The good news is that you can generally count on these to wheel, so you don't have to pick them high at all. It's _very_ good with Think Twice. You're also wanting about 9 or 10 non-creature spells. That's also something worth noting-it's not just instants or sorceries, but _any_ non-creature spell. I actually really love that the U/R archetype isn't just instants/sorceries anymore-this feels more flavorful and it's much more flexible