Lincoln freed slaves, then sent them to Haiti

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A thought-provoking journey into the lesser-known aspects of Abraham Lincoln's legacy: his ambitious plan to resettle freed slaves. Discover the complexities of Lincoln's vision, exploring his desire to end slavery while grappling with his reservations about racial integration. Uncover the dramatic events surrounding the ill-fated attempt to relocate freed slaves to the Caribbean and the profound impact it had on their lives. This captivating exploration sheds light on the intricate layers of Lincoln's approach to emancipation and invites us to examine the complexities of history.
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[@nytn]

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[@thefreeman8791]

I certainly knew that. But I am a contrarian on Lincoln so I have read much from his critics.

[@frederickgriffith7004]

Hi Danielle. Yes according to what my great grandparents knew from their elders. Frederick Douglass did play an important role for convincing Blacks not to leave America. Both the Blacks who were free before emancipation and those who were free after. My family tree contains both enslaved people and free people of color. Two precursors. Believe it not even enslaved people, through word of mouth were aware of the Haitian revolution. They also were smart enough to understand the geopolitics of the day.Meaning if the United States was not willing to offer support for this new free Black nation, there was going to be problems. Because in fact the United States and the global powers of the day imposed embargoes on Haiti. Only a handful of countries, I believe Venezuela and Columbia, were willing to trade.By the 1840s there were indeed free Blacks who decided to settle in either Liberia and Sierra Leone. But there were lessons to be learned.These new settlers at first did not try to integrate themselves within the Native populations or ethnic groups that were already there.They settled land and remained only amongst themselves. And unfortunately they brought with them some of the same toxic elements of American culture such as an arrogance and feelings of superiority towards the Native peoples. The feeling also was that the United States was not going to devote an unlimited amount of resources to these new colonies.Lets just imagine if the original English colonists who landed at Plymouth rock were then abandoned by Britain. No supplies. No development of a viable infrastructure. No protection.Because the United States did not see the necessity of getting into conflict with the increase in European colonization. Tensions were beginning to rise between the settlers and the native population. Some of the settlers realized that neither the United States nor the European powers were going to allow them to develop a strong enough infrastructure and apparatus over time to allow them to become independent and in the future have the ability to challenge the powers that be.So according to the elders, many did come back to the States to settle in the North Eastern part of the country. The lessons moving forward by the time of emancipation was to deal with an enemy that you know rather than an enemy you didn't know. Take into account the fate of the Haitian Republic. And most importantly that if American Blacks were to return, it would be best to intermarry with the Native populations. Learn the histories,culture, traditions,languages.Then within a few generations acquire a new African identity.But these people already knew not to put all of their eggs in one basket. And they were not sure if any future President or Congress would pull the rug out from under them by renouncing their citizenship permanently should they agree to be resettled.And once enough Blacks have left the country for good, would the United States be a useful ally and offer protection for the new colonies. You can understand the cynicism. These people knew they were already hated and despised and the United States would do anything to get rid of them. But if they remained American citizens, the country had to begrudgingly grant them the rights and protections thereof.Within this context there wasn't much Frederick Douglass could tell these people that they didn't already know. He just didn't want the United States to remove or deport people by force.Whether Blacks who were free before emancipation or newly freed people. It is interesting to note that between 1865 and 1868,newly freed people were in limbo. Citizenship was ratified by Congress in 1868.It was not granted immediately after emancipation as many people might think.

[@michelej9496]

I am aware of what Mr. Lincoln said. I am also aware that it would be asinine for him to reveal his plans truthfully. I don't care what he said I only care that their bonds were broken.

[@k.charleslloyd4345]

Yeah, I heard about it. I think you should have shared the exchange between Lincoln and Douglas. Lincoln also knew of the potential problems of both races and made attempts to avoid it all together. It's a lot to it than what was shared in this video.

[@johnnyearp52]

No, I knew Lincoln was more flawed than what I was taught about in school but I didn't know about this.

[@kldofva3326]

This is why it is so important to teach ALL of history. The good, bad, and unpopular! I knew this about Lincoln but only because like you I did my own research. If he wasn’t trying to save the Union and win the war, he would have not freed the people. The slave holders were paid for the loss of their property and the poor people who were subjected to their cruelty got nothing.

[@skeletorlikespotatoes7846]

Lies. Lincoln ABSOLUTELY wanted to free the slaves. Stop trying to be an edge lord and flip history. What is it with y'all not being able to understand nuance???

[@JohnSmith-ct5jd]

You seem to forget that the slaves were first sold by other Africans before coming here. Ironically, were it not for the institution of slavery, they would not even have been in this country, and probably would have been slaughtered by their African masters. Slaves in Brazil and the West Indies were treated far harsher. Ditto for African slaves taken to the Islamic world or by other Africans. The United States is in unique in having slavery; we were unique in fighting a war to end it. In the end, many white men died freeing the slaves. We do not owe anything to them or their descendants. It also would have been better for this country if after emancipation they were indeed sent back to Africa. Look at the problems we have had since having a diverse population.

[@Exodus26.13Pi]

100% 🎉 ❤ Ignored history that's destroying Black Women today... 1860 Democrat Party founded to KEEP slavery & lost Civil War to Republicans on April 9, 1865. 1865 KKK founded in TN & 1921 Tulsa, Black Wall Street 🔥 by Democrats. USA 1939 Margaret Sanger's THE NEGR0 PROJECT exterminate/neuter Black people via eugenics.(Hitler used this against Jews) 1965 The Welfare Act, white feminism, No Fault Divorce traded the Black Father for check$. Systemic & Institution Racism (school boards) 38% aborted, 80% fatherless, 80% overweight, least likely to marry, most in debt, divorced & with HIV. The Black Woman. THE NEGR0 PROJECT, now called Planned Parenthood, killed off The Black Family. 80% married down to 25% since 1965. Please research "regression." 42 million Americans are Black and so far over 20 million have been aborted. -Philander Smith College Alumni

[@FC-qe1wl]

YEP Lincoln, had no plans what so ever to grant blacks citizenship and allow them to roam free. The fourteenth amendment was passed as punishment to the south for killing Lincoln.

[@kldofva3326]

@@michelej9496 READ!

[@cjohnson033]

No, did not know about the plan. They only taught us what they wanted us to know. You did an awesome job researching this. Thanks for educating us !!!

[@nytn]

Thanks, that made my night~

[@AlexanderLittlebears]

Based Lincoln

[@Axel-yz2zr]

​@@AlexanderLittlebearsbut it didn't happen hahaha

[@AlexanderLittlebears]

@@Axel-yz2zr At least he had some based ideas.

[@josephLindor-ki7op]

@@nytn can you please research on Frederick Douglass and antenor firmin, legal battle for la-gonave Haiti. they both united and fought for Haiti, and won.

[@thefreeman8791]

I knew about this as I am a history buff and I love reading about the Civil War. I am a contrarian on Lincoln and I really do not like him so I am biased. But there are quotes of Lincoln that show that he was not empathetic. In 1854, Lincoln said that he was ok with “slavery lasting another 100 years if it is confined to the South.” When he met with the Confederate representatives at the Hampton Roads Conference in February of 1865 he was asked by John Campbell what was his plan for the slaves if they were freed and he said: “let ‘em root hog or die.” That was attested to by John Campbell and William Seward and Alexander Stephens. In the Lincoln Douglas debates Lincoln said: “What then? Free them? What then? Admit them as underlings? My own feelings will not admit to this and even if they would the great mass of white people will not.” He admitted that he had no feelings of emancipation. He had no sympathy for black people at all. The historian and scholar Lerone Bennett Jr, who was editor of Ebony magazine for a while, wrote a book on Lincoln’s racial views titled Forced Into Glory. You should read it. Also, Lincoln never gave up on his plan of colonization. In October of 1864 he wrote to his attorney general, Bates, that he had a war to handle but that when it was over he would get colonization done. He finished the letter by saying that “colonization remains my deepest wish.” He did not give up on the idea. He was killed before he could do it. The thing to understand about why colonization was popular back then and was an idea almost exclusively with the North has to do with Darwinism. Darwinism was much more widely accepted in the North than the South. The narrative back then was that black people were just a few steps back in the evolutionary process. It was often said by academics and scientists back then that there was a bigger difference between white people and black people than black people and chimpanzees. Black people were viewed as between white people and chimpanzees in the evolutionary process. According to them, that was why black people tended to live in warmer climates. They were not as evolved so their delicate health required them to live somewhere warm, the Deep South or Africa or the Caribbean. White people, on the other hand, were the apex of evolution and therefore white people could live in harsher climates. The proof that some of those people would present was that black people live in the same climate as apes and monkeys. So it was believed by many in the North that the plantation system was artificially supporting black people and without it then they would all die. That was the view of abolitionists like Theodore Parker and Ralph Waldo Emerson. Emerson once said that if slavery were abolished then black people would be “destined for museums like the dodo.” But because the South did not embrace Darwinism, they did not have that view. Did they “own” the slaves? Sure. But they did not believe that black people would just die out if they were freed. That is why you can find writings of Jefferson Davis to his wife where he is shocked to learn that some of his Northern colleagues spoke of the extermination of black people as a matter of course. Lincoln believed that black people were inferior for the same reason but he did not believe that abolishing slavery would kill off black people. That is why he frequently said that black people were “better off in their native clime”. To him, it didn’t matter if a black person’s family had been in the US for multiple generations. Genetically, they were supposed to live in a warmer climate as they just weren’t as evolved as white people. That was the thinking of the time. So the reason that people were for colonization was because they believed that black people were genetically inferior but also because they did not want black people here at all. Lincoln died a member of the American Colonization Society which was founded by Henry Clay of Kentucky. Someone that held those views was no better than any slave holder.

[@Cat-ik1wo]

Wow. I did not read up as much as you. But enough to get the gist and point of Lincoln. That was enough! He is a racist and a colonist. Seen right thru him. Did not like him after learning him. I am not impressed by him. The emancipation was just a spell book. He is a good sales man in my book. He realized that it would take blood to forge the union. He didn't realize his would need to be added as well. Prize of glory.

[@thefreeman8791]

@@Cat-ik1wo I agree. My main irritation is that because the North won the Civil War that the way that we are told history is South evil North good. In reality, much can be blamed on the North as well as the South. And the emancipation was not worth the paper it was written on. Lincoln always described it as a war measure and it describes itself in its own text as a war measure. It would have ceased to be enforced as soon as the South came back. Lincoln himself said so at the Hampton Roads Conference. He was an excellent salesman and he knew how to manipulate people. His law partner of over 30 years and dearest friend, William Herndon, said that he would build the case and then Lincoln would argue it in the courtroom because Lincoln could read people well and manipulate juries to get the outcome that he wanted. And I would argue that Lincoln did not forge a union. He forged a national government where the states and people are entirely subservient to the central government. A union is, by definition, the coming together of free and independent parts to form a whole. The Founders understood it that way as that is the literal definition of our union in the Declaration of Independence when it says that we are "a union of free and independent states". Lincoln destroyed the "free and independent" part and forced the states to stay at the point of a gun. That is not a union.

[@boogidwnej179]

@@thefreeman8791so essentially the Bickering between the north and south is equivalent to the bickering between the dems and Republicans. Neither sides have blacc ppl interest at heart. The only difference is 1 “pretends” they do while the other is upfront and blatant

[@jamesb8193]

It's about time. I'm happy to see that someone is actually still reading. I'm a history lover as well. The info is out there but people allow themselves to be led by the nose and rely on hearsay, lazy learning and now social media.

[@mochiryujin6413]

very interesting 🤔

[@frederickgriffith7004]

This is why i have said forever that Lincoln did not want the Civil War to happen simply to end Slavery. He did not feel that the shedding of blood should be done solely on the behalf of a people who were not considered full human beings. That was the thinking of the time. But Lincoln understood that blood had to be spilled if it meant the preservation of the Union. Or simply keeping the country from splitting apart. He realized that the breakup of the country would certainly destroy the growing economy because of less acess to the nation's strategic ports.The stopping of Westward expansion. And if there were two new nations, would the global powers take sides. Pretty much reducing The American sphere of influence in their own back yard. How did i realize all this by the age of ten?Because my paternal great grandfather (Born in 1874) befriended both former Union and Confederate soldiers. While working on the docks in Baltimore in the late 19th and early 20 century. And many things they shared with him from their point of view and the Generals as well. People think that most Blacks Loved Lincoln simply because of the emancipation proclamation. The Civil War started in 1861.The emancipation proclamation was drafted in 1863.They would not have been surprised at his early comments concerning Black people. They wound up respecting him because he was a practical man. And was willing to shape his views depending on the situations at the time. He knew that for the sake of the country, a rational solution had to be made. The elders often said that they regretted his assassination because he would have attempted to bring about some degree of Truth and Reconciliation. And to persuade Congress to provide the resources to fully integrate a formerly enslaved people into a free society. The elders also mentioned the fact that the New President and Congress after Lincoln publicly encouraged both the Union and Confederate soldiers and generals to go home to their families. And resume their lives. As the federal government would provide whatever resources to allow the nation to heal.But the elders felt the powers that be did nothing to encourage the members of society to welcome and embrace those people who were formerly enslaved. Instead it was a literal hell on earth for those people. Simply because many Northerners and Southerners alike blamed formerly enslaved people for the cause of the CIVIL WAR. And the death and carnage that followed. That therefore such people deserved no mercy or empathy. And simply for myself I was astounded at the guilt trip that was laid upon Black people of that generation and beyond. It was more implied than spoken. But it was devastating. To make matters worse, there was no acknowledgement within society and the educational curriculum that for nearly 250 years an enslaved people also helped contribute to the economic growth of this great nation.That whatever contributions that they made in so many areas was virtually ignored. Instead the level of hostility was so great after emancipation because their presence was viewed as a nuisance. And now they were about to compete for jobs,resources and living space. The stories passed down by the elders brought tears to my eyes. Quite frankly, i don't know how our people were able to survive the few generations after emancipation. It was not an easy road. Which is why i love and respect them even more.

[@nytn]

" Quite frankly, i don't know how our people were able to survive the few generations after emancipation. It was not an easy road." What an important observation

[@JohnSmith-ct5jd]

One white man was killed for every six slaves freed. I say that was a terrible cost.

[@frederickgriffith7004]

@@JohnSmith-ct5jd I honor all the soldiers. BOTH BLACK AND WHITE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR UNION VICTORY. AND THUS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE UNION. What I am simply saying is that from the Union point of view the cause of the CIVIL WAR was the PRESERVATION OF THE UNION first and foremost. Not the ending of slavery. And as many of the former Union soldiers told my great grandfather that the Union Generals had to get that point across to any new conscripts as a result of the draft riots around the country. BECAUSE many of the new conscripts were under the mistaken belief that they were to fight to free the slaves.Many of the new conscripts had reservations, because of the belief at the time, that enslaved people were not fully human beings. Besides this Lincoln was willing to compromise on the issue of slavery and allow the institution to remain in the States where it already existed. But not allow expansion.If it meant avoiding a war.But even the former Confederate soldiers told my great grandfather that the Confederate states had way more grievances against the federal government other than Slavery. One of course was States Rights. The other was because the Confederate states felt that the federal government was imposing unfair import/export duties upon their goods and raw materials as they crossed state lines by land and by sea.Some of these former Union and Confederate soldiers believed there may not have been a Civil War had the Confederate states not voted to secede from the Union. Something the federal government could not allow under any circumstances. That the initial plan was indeed to phase out slavery over the next generation and compensate the slave owners for their loses.Also because Lincoln realized that since there was an increase in European immigration. How could these immigrants compete with slave labor within certain sectors of the American economy.And increasingly the industrial sector in the border states. I just think the issue should be explained in a broader context.

[@frederickgriffith7004]

@@nytn What truly angers me is that we have a philosophy within this great nation that there should be no expectations of consequences, unintended or not, of nearly destroying the Native Peoples, The enslavement of other people's and rampant discrimination and demonization of early European immigrants as well as Asian immigrants and immigrants from Mexico and the rest of the Americas.Society is the most powerful component of the FOUR PILLARS OF HUMAN EXISTENCE. INDIVIDUAL, FAMILY, COMMUNITY AND SOCIETY. And when society decides to designate groups to the status of acceptable Whiteness. Or designate others to model minority status or designate others to what I can only describe as "Honorary White Folk status " Then these groups can enjoy greater upward social mobility. And our institutions (Banking and finance, real estate, education, healthcare, mainstream and social media platforms, criminal and legal justice, community and planning commissions, voting and electoral processes) follow suit.I was always raised to understand that as an individual that I am to do my part. Absolutely. But as an individual I am still a small part of a much larger equation. None of us can function without a certain degree of mutual respect and cooperation amongst our peers. Socialization and the importance of positive feedback from society in general. To be granted the privilege at the minimum OF THE PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE, GOODNESS, TRUST, COMPETENCE AND RESPECT. Whether in public spaces or social and professional circles. Some take this privilege for granted. Perhaps without realizing it. While others can only imagine what that might feel like. Once again. Thank you for all that you do.

[@Exodus26.13Pi]

100% 🎉 ❤ Ignored history that's destroying Black Women today... 1860 Democrat Party founded to KEEP slavery & lost Civil War to Republicans on April 9, 1865. 1865 KKK founded in TN & 1921 Tulsa, Black Wall Street 🔥 by Democrats. USA 1939 Margaret Sanger's THE NEGR0 PROJECT exterminate/neuter Black people via eugenics.(Hitler used this against Jews) 1965 The Welfare Act, white feminism, No Fault Divorce traded the Black Father for check$. Systemic & Institution Racism (school boards) 38% aborted, 80% fatherless, 80% overweight, least likely to marry, most in debt, divorced & with HIV. The Black Woman. THE NEGR0 PROJECT, now called Planned Parenthood, killed off The Black Family. 80% married down to 25% since 1965. Please research "regression." 42 million Americans are Black and so far over 20 million have been aborted. -Philander Smith College Alumni

[@t.nelson9345]

Thanks you my sister. Teaching us off the beaten path not talked in highschool history.

[@marie.petithomme3198]

This women just telling a lie the first country that ever recognized haiti independence was russia america recognized haiti independence after 65 years. thats why haiti and america relation always a complicated one.

[@rebeccamd7903]

There was a migration of Native/African mixed to the Caribbean islands. We have pinpointed DNA for Melungeon people and Islanders at about 5-7 generations. It seems some of my tri-racial ancestors migrated to Florida and joined the Seminole and then migrated into the Caribbean islands. History is so fascinating!

[@thefreeman8791]

That was common when the US purchased Florida. The Spanish would not return escaped slaves to the colonies or to the US after we gained our independence. So the first Underground Railroad for slaves actually went to Florida. But then when Spain agreed to sell Florida then those escaped slaves or their families moved to the Caribbean, mostly Cuba.

[@timeforchange3786]

Melungeons are a specific group in Tennessee, Virginia, Kentucky, and the Carolinas. They have specific features and surnames. I have never heard of them in Florida. They said they were Portuguese and have been traced to the 1916 ship in Virginia. I am curious how you have traced your ancestors to Melungeons from those locations? Which surnames are your family from?

[@wtimothy3973]

Yes some of them settled at Red Bays, Andros Island in The Bahamas.

[@davidmilton5887]

Wrong. Native Americans were never sent anywhere. American Indians (black) were sent. Yes,"black" indians were here when the Pilgrims arrived. Native Americans were brought over by the Conquistadors from 1540-1815,Into Mexico and they migrated into North America.

[@kjlockley1246]

Florida was a Spanish colony. Any enslaved Black person if safely made it to Florida would remain free if they agreed to fight along side the Spanish against the English. Many of the people known as Black Seminole migrated to many islands and Mexico. They had freed themselves before Lincoln presidency .

[@RenataTheDreemer]

I appreciate this channel for bringing the the full truth forward.

[@nytn]

the truth sets us free!

[@ricardoxbogan4742]

Thanks for sharing. Things like this and The Knights of the Golden Circle are not taught in school. It sounded like you're fighting back tears. Let's me know you are a real one. Bless you. ❤

[@lornawood3260]

Very interesting video. I never knew about this side of Lincoln. Shocking. And Mr Douglass was brilliant with his statement about the rights of those who had lived here, to stay here! Thanks, once again, Danielle, for sharing your research with us; most excellent! 👏👏👏♥️

[@skeletorlikespotatoes7846]

Not really. Douglas turned out to be wrong more than right.

[@powerbadpowerbad]

I knew good ole ABE was a racist.I read about him inviting those black preachers to the white house,then told them his position on blacks.Something they already knew,I'm sure,but,why waste their time ???

[@cheajordan7400]

​@@skeletorlikespotatoes7846 In what way was he more wrong?

[@skeletorlikespotatoes7846]

@@cheajordan7400 all the racial conflict you see...(which is 2 sided to be clear) all the pitting of one race against the other.

[@skeletorlikespotatoes7846]

@@cheajordan7400 diversity is a nice idea and perhaps it's the right thing to do.

[@BushaBandulu]

Wow! I never knew this. Then again, 80% of history is untold.

[@davidlucasmachado2831]

Or inaccurate

[@dinaf_tommyf]

Wonder about the Haitian side of the story. Haitians freed themselves from France in 1804, so well before this happened. Was a native Haitian population all ready living on that small island. I heard that Abraham Lincoln was the first U.S. president to recognize Haiti as a sovereign nation. If that is true, perhaps this relocation scheme was the reason why. Interesting information. Thanks for sharing.

[@ronpl8473]

When Bernard Knock met with then Haitian president Fabre Gerrard, the Haitian president supported the arrival of more blacks to the country, and they would be immediately naturalized as Haitians upon arrival, but was reluctant to rent a piece of Haitian soil to a white man. After the Haitian revolution, it was illegal for white people to own property in Haiti.

[@yusefnegao]

Haiti is not small and yes it inhabited by many people at the time

[@alboizino]

Haitian President J P Boyer was the first to invite Black people from the US to come to Haiti and get Haitian citizenship, later President Geffrard continued with the process and a lot of Freed black americans moved to Haiti over the years most did return to the US later, and some parts of the DR when it was part of Haiti, Samana still has them until today.

[@braxtonjones6163]

@@yusefnegao They’re talking about one of Haiti’s Islands.

[@yusefnegao]

@@braxtonjones6163 oh my bad

[@Simonjose7258]

I love the evolution of your channel and the direction you're taking it in.

[@xavierboom9689]

I never heard of colonization to Haiti. Have you ever heard of the American Colonization Society? That might be an interesting topic for one of your videos one day. Thank you for sharing your ancestral heritage with us.

[@nytn]

I have not! I'll go google it :)

[@abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192]

Ironically, from 1915 to 1934 the United States Military occupied Haiti.

[@xavierboom9689]

@@abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192, I should have been more specific. I wasn't aware that Lincoln tried to get ex-slaves to go to Haiti. I did forget about the occupation of Haiti beginning in 1915.

[@thefreeman8791]

@@nytn The American Colonization Society was founded by Henry Clay of Kentucky. The premise of it was that black people were genetically disposed to live in a warmer climate and should be moved there. Lincoln himself was a political son of Henry Clay and called Clay "the bough ideal of a statesman." Lincoln himself believed that black people were inferior and should be deported to what he frequently called "their native clime". They were not founded out of any sort of compassion. They were founded by people who wanted the US to be a whites only country and that was to be achieved by deporting all black people. As William Seward Said, "colonization and emancipation are inextricably linked". In other words, you can't create a whites only society without first freeing the slaves and deporting them. I commend the sincerity of your presentations. I do not always agree with you but I appreciate your sincerity.

[@nytn]

@@thefreeman8791 You know, I had originally intended to include Clay and Lincoln's own quote about the climate that he believed AA should be in, but cut it after filming.

[@JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts]

"...there must be a position of superiority and inferior and I as much as any other man, am in favor of having superior position assigned to the white race..." I went and searched for this quote since I have not heard it before. I now understand that this was his response to taunting from Stephen A. Douglass, which he initially ignored, but eventually responded to with a series of statements that included this quote. I was loving this channel just for the genealogy research results and family interviews, but these historical bombshells are just blowing my mind. The history of America is so varied and mixed liberally with good and bad that many of us are unaware of. Thank you, Danielle. ❤

[@nytn]

I still love America. I think we could love each other more if we knew a bit more about our family story as Americans, though. And yes, I should have included where the quote was from, meant to do that. Thank you so much for finding that and commenting.

[@bmrjck2315]

Thank you for the historical information that are sharing with the world! 🙏🙏🙏

[@ladywithclasscarpenter1143]

Wasn’t aware of this part of our History, thanks Danielle for sharing this Video as well as research links.

[@Shaq_01]

I didn't know about Lincoln's colonization plan until your video. You're doing a great job, Ma'am 👍.

[@alexivanov7567]

I recently finished а Russian book by Alexander Bushkov "Unknown War. Secret History of the USA." (in original: Александр Бушков: Неизвестная война. Тайная история США.) Book is about US Civil War. As far as I know book wasn't translated into English. That book was so revealing to me! I learned about that "secret war" in one book more then I have heard here and there in many many years. And this book shook me! So, what You are saying here just part of those gigantic lies about US History in general, and about US Civil war in particular. But I remember what one of many english books that author made a reference upon was "The Log Cabin Myth: The Social Backgrounds of the Presidents" by Edward Pessen

[@viva8258]

So what was the civil war about?

[@alexivanov7567]

@@viva8258 Territorial expansion! Capturing south - in short. First colonization, so in future it can become an Empire.

[@shannsimms9072]

I found your channel and have been watching all your videos for the last two hours. You’re smart and interesting

[@nytn]

You are so kind! I’m really glad you are here ♥️

[@mtamorphis]

Something similar happened to the escaped slaves that ran north to Canada aka the Black Loyalist. Thomas Peters (said to be of Creole ethnicity) lead an expedition of 1100 African Americans to Sierra Leone. Unfortunately, a lot of them did not survive due to weather conditions, limited supplies, and spread of disease.

[@nytn]

This is new to me! So much important history. Thank you for commenting that

[@Gov.2066]

We are not African Americans 90% of us were already here... The elite told the history they wanted y'all to know.. When you read and study history yourself you will read how Europeans came here on the bottom of ships..

[@usa_kenyan]

Yes, I had heard that he favored a colonization idea. But I thought it only had to do with Africa. I had not heard of the Haiti plan. Thanks for sharing.

[@TC-uj6jc]

I love that you are learning about your family.. I am black but I have family members that look like you

[@nytn]

that is so cool!

[@jeffjustlookin]

Thank you for using factual documentation to show the TRUTH. Truth that does NOT get told and taught.

[@mixtapemania6769]

1:51 you almost got it, it's "eel" à-vache Great video ❤, keep it up 🇭🇹 M pat konn anyen sou ti istwa sa

[@nytn]

Thank you! I was sweating bullets trying to say that one 😫

[@quan1562]

Just found your channel... This is so enlightening.. Thank you

[@phoenixr6811]

Lincoln was interested in keeping the “union” together and JFK was not so much interested in the civil rights movement. 🧐People have always look back at historical figures with roses eyes but that just not realistic.😊

[@thefreeman8791]

I agree with your comment. I read a quote from Booker T. Washington some time ago that made me question much of the narrative of the motivations of many people in the civil rights era. Booker T. Washington was not for integrated institutions. Some people tried to get him on board with the government making schools integrated. His response was essentially asking why he should have to send his kids to a school filled with white kids who hate them just because of their skin color. I am not questioning the sincerity of people like MLK. But I am questioning the politicians.

[@phoenixr6811]

@@thefreeman8791 agreed🙂 your point on the civil right is correct, the movement went through and still going through different narratives. I believe Medgar Edgar was the thought process of Booker T. Washington were he was not interested integration as his goal was about equality. If the white schools had the last and update textbooks etc. so should the schools of color.

[@thefreeman8791]

@@phoenixr6811 Exactly. I saw an interview with a black girl in Alabama who was a college student in the 60s and she was saying that she and her black classmates were separate not inferior. The had to drink from separate fountains but the had the same water, food, dorms, books, etc. She did not think integration was a big deal as she was just as educated as any white man at the institution. In my opinion, black people have been manipulated by both parties since emancipation so, while I may agree with one or another position, I am not for politicians using a crisis for their own political agenda and personal power.

[@stephanienwadieiiamhybasia]

I heard that he was not so worried about slavery but saving the union. It is interesting to note that he did try to give some people a chance at a better life. It was an experiment that unfortunately didn’t work. Later they colonized Liberia.( which eventually failed as well). Poor guy. It was considerate of him to at least try. History is definitely interesting sometimes. Thank you for sharing. I actually agree with the crew that would have tried to leave. Well, who could imagine that anything was worse than slavery? They were just not prepared to be independent yet.( no survival skills or supplies to make the transition easier).

[@JC-mn2ll]

The U.S founded the colony and started sending freedmen to Liberia in 1822. So this started long before Lincoln was president.

[@nytn]

I think if they had fulfilled their promises to these people, maybe it could have worked out. I dont think ALL freed people would have left though, so we still end with a mixed society anyway. Which I am thankful for :)

[@goddessgood118]

With all due respect…no survival skills or supplies?? Have you lost sight of the people about whom you’re speaking? Fear and intimidation would better describe the apprehension for not taking that step.

[@michelej9496]

Read, The House At Sugar Beach by Helene Cooper This content creator should have stated precisely why Liberia failed.

[@nytn]

Yah I didn’t go back far enough in this video, I try to keep them at 12 minutes! Point taken

[@mikmik9034]

A part forgotten in history classes is Lincoln DID NOT free "the slaves", He ONLY allowed the Slaves in the defeated soverign country "Confederate States of America" (CSA) to be freed, the Norther UNION Slaves stayed in bondage.

[@thomast3570]

Why was that?

[@mikmik9034]

@@thomast3570 Lincoln was a compromiser, he offered the slave state until 1900 to keep their slaves and 'gradually' phase them out until the turn of the century, 40 years. The southern States refused.

[@Prodigious1One]

Interesting history. My father was Haitian. I'm intrigued by the historical connections between Haiti and the USA.

[@keensheen9583]

Can you talk about the African Americans who left and went to the Island of Hispaniola in the 1800’s, settling in what is now the Dominican Republic. The areas were Puerto Plata & Santo Domingo , but the main influence came from the African Americans who landed in Samaná and are referred to Samaná Americans ( some African Americans landed in Haiti as well)

[@Renzee-ct4wz]

What is there to talk about when you really just summed it all up...

[@jayp8461]

The entire island were Haiti, the haitian president invited them in. There was no such thing as Dominican Republic. Haitian were in charge of the entire island.

[@Renzee-ct4wz]

@@jayp8461 the people were there hundreds of years before the French pirates arrived with the Haitians. The whole island was Spanish Creole back then. So what is the point?

[@jayp8461]

@@Renzee-ct4wz huh? The point is the haitians were the one who invited the black Americans over under haitian president Jean Pierre Boyer. There was no such thing as dominican rep until 1849. And when they created their own nation the only people they invited in were more Europeans to whited out their population.

[@prohibitedname]

​@@jayp8461thank God they did...imagine today would ve been another Haiti. Dominicans were always smarter.

[@michaelese]

As soon as I started listening to you, I knew you are terrific. I love your conclusion.

[@nytn]

That is so sweet, thank you!

[@richardrobinson4159]

It's one thing to acknowledge people make mistakes, but we can't pass lightly over these "mistakes" as just "oh, one is human", when those mistakes cost others their lives. They are people as well, and shouldn't be thrown to the wind of history, while another is presented with an oopsy, well he is just human, oh well. Especially when those mistakes were from the causation of lies and broken promises.

[@jaxsazerac4904]

There are still slaves in the world. I don't see you fighting to free them. Hypocrite

[@machonsote918]

That's exactly right........we need to look at historical people whether they were evil or not. Evil is universal that transcends time. Lincoln was definitely EVIL!

[@Nightbird1914]

I did not know this. Thank you for sharing your findings.

[@nytn]

So glad to have you here!

[@jeanheard4615]

My great grand mother was a slave and she living in South Carolina and after she died her daughter which was my grandmother was sold to Alabama where she had 13 children she never was sent to Hattie

[@macvena]

Lincoln didn't conceive the idea. James Monroe did by sending people to Liberia, whose capital is Monrovia. Lincoln believed that the freedman might have a better chance beyond the USA. It was a pretty difficult time, if you recall. Also, you must remember he practically begged the South to not secede or go to war. If you were focused on averting war and legions of deaths, what would you do? Lincoln wasn't a Saint, because no one is. If you have a scheme to ultimately fix a problem despite it being a less than an ideal solution, what would you do? If you were a slave and could get freedom elsewhere, would you go, and take your chances?

[@alexivanov7567]

LOL, and also, He made contradicting promises (on slavery issue). Depending on where his public speeches took place. In South or in North.

[@nytn]

I dont disagree, that's why it was not a smear on Lincoln in this video. And I agree most people try their best (usually) and when analyzing history, we get to be armchair quarterbacks...which I definitely am! I cant say I have a better solution for the times, if this had worked and people could have been happier elsewhere, I wish they had had that chance in earnest.

[@macvena]

@@alexivanov7567 Well, do politicians always tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing, but the truth? If the decision was yours, and you had to fudge, to appease a given audience, or advocate for an unpopular idea, would you do some rhetorical gymnastics to get the job done? It's easy to pick on the dead. Especially, when you look back and see all of the mistakes and consequences. Could you have actually done better in the midst of 650,000 deaths, and your country falling apart over a controversial topic that folks just weren't prepared to face yet?

[@macvena]

@@nytn I get that. Much respect. Just throwing my 2 cents in for the viewing audience. A bit of perspective to ponder.

[@nytn]

@@alexivanov7567 This sounds familiar but I havent read my massive Lincoln book from start to finish.

[@blueberryhill6948]

This was super informative ❤

[@CalmBeforeTheStorm76]

Danielle, do you have any thoughts on Malcolm X? It seems like, as a cultural figure, he has been ignored recently. I remember hearing a lot more about him when I was a kid, and now, not so much. Could be an interesting thread to explore.

[@nytn]

I wouldnt give any thoughts off the cuff that's for sure😂. Good question, though. I'll write it down to look into.

[@thomaskalbfus2005]

Yes the guy who said Plymouth Rock landed on black people. There is the fact that slavery brought many black people involuntarily to America's shores, yet many blacks who complain about racism in America are unwilling to undo the effects of slavery and go back to Africa where they would have been had slavery never happened. Slavery brought much contention and racism to America, had slavery never existed, that contention and racism would not exist. Monoracial countries usually don't have much racism as such racism requires contact with other races in order for people to form prejudices in order for racism to exist. there was very little racism in Middle Age Europe towards black people, because very few black people lived in Europe at that time. Slavery brought a mixing of cultures and races and this allowed racism to flourish.

[@yadig.]

@@thomaskalbfus2005I wouldn't go as far to say very little lived in Europe at that time, I feel you tho

[@thomaskalbfus2005]

@@yadig. I think if we dropped a black African into a medeaval village, say for example at around 1100 AD, he would get lots of curiosity, but not a lot of prejudice. If there is no community of black people there, there would be no stereotype upon which to base such a prejudice. There have been a few shows, where blacks have been dropped in a medeaval setting, for diversity reasons (such as in Vikings for example) , and the local residents act as if there is nothing unusual about a black person there as a modern person would, I think that is very wrong! People would be curious as to why he's black, they will wonder how his skin got that way and what happened to his skin and his hair, they wouldn't just shrug it off and pay him no mind, since they would have no prior experience with black people, they won't have a prejudice, but they will be very curious. A black man would get a few stares, that is to be expected. The show fails to do this and basically ruins the suspensionmof disbelief, as basically no one can see that he's black, and they fail to react at all, especially if that someone is supposed to be a Viking and not a foreigner.

[@davizshawilliams1787]

@Thomas Kalbfus on that same thought, why don't all Europeans go back to their countries? The Native Indigenous certainly don't want any of them here... By your own logic, this should be another great solution right?

[@Jazz313]

Informative and eye opening ❤

[@jeansilencieux3281]

All this shows the resilience of the blacks to survive and their right to have an honorable place in society. Thank goodness freedom was not given to us. We fought for it as we continue to do. The resistance we face every day, everywhere means that we have a long way to go. Thank you so much for enlightening our consciousness.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@jonnyarsioto1192]

So they do not discriminate now all other races through stupod BLM ? Everybody has "black" side of the soul . not only hispanics or so on.Move them back to Africa, Haiti, and so on.

[@BirdDogg]

Excellent. It is worth digging into the influence of former members of the “wide awakes” and Seward on Lincoln’s thought processes and messaging.

[@upthedown1]

I learned history in school, in college and on my own. At some point if you're interested it's up to you to learn more and not for the purpose of clobbering people over the head with it, pointing fingers or regurgitating bitter accusations.

[@rimfire8217]

It is nice that you have the disclaimer "this is not a smear campaign on Lincoln" Because a lot of people who talk about this subject do just that. It is important to acknowledge the nuances and how people didn't always know what the right thing was. So good job here

[@nytn]

I appreciate it. If we can only talk "good" or only "bad" we are never going to tell the truth.

[@spotted_salamander]

💢I'm commenting as a descendant of Native "Free People of Color" and Native Freedmen💢During the Civil War, President Lincoln utilized his military powers to seize property belonging to Confederates, including slaves, which he partly and conveniently treated as war contraband. This served two purposes: weakening the Confederacy by depriving them of a vital resource and aligning with Lincoln's colonization ideals of removing people of color from the United States. People who were captured by the Union under the label of "slaves" were deemed "captives of war" and were subject to the authority of the United States military. There were captives who were coerced into leaving the country and resettling in the Caribbean or elsewhere as part of Lincoln's racialized colonization scheme (U.S. whitening policy); Abraham Lincoln was a lifelong member of the American Colonization Society. Additionally, many captives of war were forcibly utilized and enlisted into the Union's military war effort. One example of this is how captives were used as expendable soldiers (cannon fodder). In conclusion, those classified as "captives of war" were not considered "slaves" and were known as "Freedmen" or "Freed persons of color" upon their release from their wartime captivity.

[@spotted_salamander]

For clarity, the reason why "captives of war" were not considered slaves was due to the Second Confiscation Act of July 17, 1862, signed by Lincoln. This law made individuals who were captured by the Union military, under the pretense of "slaves," free upon capture and permanently prohibited their enslavement, in word. The reason why captives were forced and coerced to do things beyond their will was, in part, due to the Lieber Code issued by Lincoln on April 24, 1863. It was a set of laws of war that designated war captives as "public enemies" and permitted a captive of war to "be shot, or otherwise killed in his flight" if caught escaping. By enforcing laws like these, Lincoln sought obedience from captives for the Union's benefit. It is worth noting that a person of color who was claimed to have been a "slave" by the Union military, prior to his or her capture, did not determine what the person of color's true status was. I know this to be a fact because a relative of mine's ancestor was recorded as a "freed person of color" by State of Georgia documentation but was never recorded or known to have been a "slave" in their family. He was a freed person, as in a Freed Captive of War, without a slave background. A significant point is that the Second Confiscation Act served Lincoln's strategy of disempowering the Confederacy by allowing military confiscations of Confederate property, which strategically included persons judged to be "slaves," without care to rigorously determine the true status of each person prior to capture. Furthermore, the laws of war outlined in the Lieber Code had provisions for taking persons captive during wartime, in general. Lincoln's "slave confiscation" was in fact a war measure used to urgently shift the war's momentum completely in favor of the Union by taking as many people as possible, with weapons in hand, from among the masses of "colored" persons in Confederate areas.

[@trden3458]

You are a beacon of light for the future. Delving into American history, you have begun a healing process for the truth of our lives as we see and unravel the truth about the fourfathers; good,bad and indifference during their time in human history. The truth is stranger than fiction. History must be accurate in all things, for if we learn false narratives, then the past will repeat itself . The generations to come must embrace truth, if not all will fail. Best regards in your journey 🙏🏽💚

[@nytn]

Thank you for this, it filled my heart up!

[@rroadmap]

So true!

[@globescape4771]

What they also didn't teach you was that the North (free states) were more racist than the South. Frederick Douglas and Alexis de Tocqueville wrote about it.

[@Cat-ik1wo]

Yes. Moved up here believing what I was taught in school. What a crock. It was just propaganda. What a lie. All of it! And they say history is written by the winner, so thats how it goes. But I have been uncovering their dirty little secrets. At least the south is HONEST. the north is a delusional liar!

[@kdugg]

Exactly. My family is melungeon and they still fought for the south.

[@leroybiggums2187]

I am a relative of the families that were sent to Haiti on the ship “ Burch Laurel” in 1863. I have a copy of the legal documents signed by then Governor Robert C. Wicklife of Louisiana.

[@questfortruth783]

There's a story that Jean Jacques Dessalines welcomed to Hayti anybody who was enslaved to offer them freedom. President Boyer made the same offer to black Americans. Some did come, but those who stayed were given land in the Dominican Republic(Samana). kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZe0aaGorLJ5qsk

[@realtalk7547]

No matter how much we say “teach all history “ it will always come down to how much time do you have to teach it and what is the real motivation. Sometimes we need to just be thankful that we are such a free nation to research those things that we can’t in organized educational institutions.

[@sjoncb]

Abraham Lincoln didn't free the enslaved. The enslaved freed Abraham Lincoln.

[@lindarivas1506]

Never knew this about Lincoln. The truth is so important so we understand why we are where we are.

[@songs8619]

This journey is a great way for everyone to mature in how we see, understand and live history. We all make history everyday we are alive. Humans are fallible which means no one is perfect - the best anyone can strive for is maturation.

[@nytn]

Thank you!

[@jaxsazerac4904]

​@@nytn What about Liberia?

[@rroadmap]

Absolutely true. Hopefully we live, learn and grow. And knowing true history helps us avoid the same mistakes.

[@brendalewis2431]

Great research

[@yasef2366]

You can never let someone else tell your story ….

[@taracannonllc]

Wow! Thank you for sharing this! ...... And with compassion.

[@marksanders2168]

With all do respect however, very relevant to this videos topic and i cant stress this enough. I suggest you study the Spanish empire first from 1492 and then move onto the anglo American empire. I believe this will close many gaps In your research and how the anglo Americans adopted British ideals and tactics to subvert the already well established Spanish empire in America. Personally I think you're viewing people the way anglos do which is "black" or "white". This is an anglo custom. Although NOT a perfect empire The Spanish viewed people differently. These two empires were completely different to say the least whereas the Spanish held viceroyalties and the anglo Americans held colonies. Two complete different approaches to form Societies. These two books are a great start to understand the methods the anglo Americans & British used against others even to today to accomplish their activities. "Tree of hate" by Phillip Wayne Powell & "slaughter of cities" by E. Michael Jones. These racial segregations were NOT mistakes, these were premeditated conscious decisions made by the Anglo American government used even to today with "racial politics" i.e. B/L/M/, "black", "brown", etc. Total nonsense we live through now. Good luck with your research. 👍

[@benavraham4397]

Your videos are simply fabulous!👍

[@nytn]

Im so glad you're here! Be sure to share ideas for future videos, too.

[@benavraham4397]

@@nytn Your stories are fascinating. You do have a particularly interesting family. Personally, I think our perception of individuality is an illusion. The truth is that we are links in a chain, or more accurately, we are nots in a net. We aspire to eternity, but individuals die. So the family is our real identity. Your work shows the true meaning of people. Thank you for sharing your family.💗

[@japeri171]

We must remember that Lincoln was a child of his times.Most white men of the 19th century thought like him.We must not deify or demonize historical figures.

[@nytn]

André, I agree, removing historical figures from their time and bringing them into ours is not a 1-1 comparison.

[@andrewforte3852]

So Adolf Hitler is absolved for all his crimes against humanity? How about Joseph Stalin or King Leopold of Belgium or Idi Amin or Ivan the Terrible or Saddam Hussein or Ho Chi Minh or...........???????????

[@Cat-ik1wo]

Should we then have sympathy for the devils of all history? Who chooses? Who defines?

[@jaxsazerac4904]

​@@Cat-ik1wo "One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter."

[@charlestodd5685]

I'm always amazed by his wisdom.

[@xman933]

Based on what you shared, you’re saying Lincoln not only wanted separation of the “races” but clearly thought the white “race” was superior. Did I get that right?

[@nytn]

That’s what that one quote of what he said. I don’t know how he felt in his heart though

[@xman933]

@@nytn Sadly, the heart has nothing to do with the thoughts and ideas we form in our heads. Was really disappointing to learn this. I suppose he was a product of his time but I believe we’ve come a long way since than.

[@nytn]

@@xman933 I think most of us are a product of our time, but that doesnt excuse everything.

[@dianebuxo4335]

This is one reason Republicans criticized the New York Times 1619 Project (a great book on US history) that critics mistakenly call "critical race theory." Conservatives set up the 1776 Project which is a whitewashed version of US history, leaving out ugly truths like Danielle's column today. And this is also why there are book bannings. It's amazing how people cannot cope with the nuances of the past!

[@thefreeman8791]

@@xman933 Yes. And that is why I do not give Southerners grief for thinking that black people were inferior. Was it evil? Sure. But it was the norm back then. Everybody North and South believed that. The real question is why? Why did someone take the position that they did? We are taught today about all of these abolitionists and we are taught that because they wanted abolition that therefore they loved black people. That was rarely so back then. Theodore Parker was an abolitionist who financed John Brown. He was called "the peripatetic icon of abolition" in his day. But why was he an abolitionist? He was one because he believed that the plantation system was artificially supporting a species that was not even human and would not survive on it's own. That is right. He believed that black people were an entirely different species. He believed that if they got rid of slavery then black people would die out. He wanted slavery to end because he wanted black people exterminated and that was his belief of how that was to happen. People can support bad things for rational reasons and people can support good things for evil reasons. The interesting question is always why did they hold the view that they did?

[@damainesweeney4917]

Loving your content. New subscriber.

[@nytn]

So glad to have you! I love hearing people's suggestions, please make sure to chime in! :)

[@coreylevine8095]

Can you do one on the 1676 Bacon Rebellion

[@nytn]

Oh that's a good one

[@scottiescott5006]

Great Job. We learn something new everyday.

[@hpsunshine1442]

He’s mixed race. Triracial.

[@nytn]

Abe?!

[@hpsunshine1442]

@@nytn Yuup. Research it

[@hpsunshine1442]

So is J Edgar

[@rhondalight70]

@Nytn. Yes ma'am, I've been off and on doing family research for my own family for years. My maternal ancestors are melungeon. Abe's mother is thought to be melungeon, similar stories to the people in your family. Love what you are doing.

[@EthelByrd-fj4pl]

LoL 😂!!! It's stated that he was swarthy ( 🖤 black)!!!

[@nanounepha2600]

Ponce de Leon discovered St.Augustine, Florida. Enslaved Africans and Indigenous folks were shiped from the Caribbean islands of Haiti, PR, DR, Bahamas, etc.. One of Haiti's rebel-hero, known as Jorge Biassou, established a freedom territory for any enslaved who stepped foot in St. Augustine. Many buildings and streets are named after him.

[@toresaetre7793]

As an exchange student in Ohio im 1989 our excellent history teacher mr Hershberger did teach at least parts of this. We were taught about Liberia, not Haiti. We were never taught detailed about why it stopped either, just that it for some reason didn't work out. In hindsight it would have been nice to have been taught more, but something is at least not equal to nothing

[@rroadmap]

Great History teachers never stick solely to the book. My brother was a History teacher first in High School, then in college. He taught so much more than the History books included and made History come alive!

[@mauricejones6193]

Thank you sis for that knowledge 😮✌🏿

[@rc-darkangel774]

This is a brillant essay! "Reading history in the context of the time" ? Hater will call this CRT..I call it truth setting every free.

[@teddywilliamson3547]

I don't believe I've ever heard this. In debate, I always argued that if Lincoln truly cared about freeing enslaved people, he would've campaigned for a free state! To know that he did, I'm humbled and still concerned why this isn't common knowledge!!!!

[@patkelley8293]

Another great presentation!

[@garysimpson752]

Did not know that! great video

[@primategaberocco]

I'm glad and lucky to have discovered you, on this journey. 🤣 We too fled Calabria, and my mother's side were originally kicked out of Spain (Sephardic Jews) and ended up in Calabria, and had to hide their ancestry.. Thank you for your work, and research getting to the truth. As I have done, but you've educated me on so much more. Love from Downunder in Australia. 🥃🎉

[@bunnyluver2176]

You're supposed to read the part in the brackets. The "[I am]..." is an important part of the quote.

[@PosiVibes_Hub]

Thank you sister. I love history, but I’ve never come across this black colonization attempt before; very informative… I’ve been watching you for some time now and I love your channel

[@nytn]

Oh my gosh, thank you for the love!

[@vincecallagher7636]

The truth can set you free, it can also, really piss you off! Thanx , great history lesson.

[@oscardahmer8533]

Love your channel.

[@nytn]

Oscar, that made my day!

[@MichaelLove-wl2ti]

Hey I love your channel ❤❤❤

[@mocochronicles]

Terrific video🙌🙌

[@JQVault]

EXCELLENT EDUCATIONAL VIDEO

[@catherinekelly532]

douglass thought the EP was a very bad idea. EP Hell Kirkpatrick Sale

[@OGMann]

Lincoln believed slavery's days were numbered. He abhorred slavery, and wanted it to end. He also was tasked with preserving the union. He wanted both, and tried to straddle the fence. There was no way to do both. John Brown understood the truth. The only way to dismantle the system of slavery was the shedding of blood. Abolitionists could not only talk about it. They had to be willing to die for it. Lincoln had to appease the strange notion that blacks should be free people, but not viewed as equal to whites. The native people of this land suffered under this same notion. Lincoln needed the support of the whites who took this view in order to move his agenda forward.

[@rroadmap]

Exactly! People don't seem to understand that Lincoln had to get buy-in from the masses and that sometimes meant telling them what they wanted to hear. He was a shrewd operator. He didn't get everything right, but we should be grateful for what he did accomplish.

[@PaulaAndreaGaviriaMarmolejo]

Didn’t know about Lincoln but I learned yesterday from another video that Thomas Jefferson held the same view but decided that emancipation was a problem that could be resolved by future generations.

[@IndigenousHebrew]

Love it...thanks for your work.

[@brianclark4040]

As President, Lincoln approved laws to give away Indigenous land, signed himself up to fight in the Black Hawk war (a conflict largely over native land prior to his presidency), and while president approved the execution of 38 Dakota men. I am familiar with quotes from Lincoln indicating that he did not believe black and white people to be equals. And I have read quoted about how he intended to preserve the union whether slavery was ended or not. None of those events diminishes Lincoln as an important figure in American history. The problem is hero worship. Historical figures have too often been deified. It’s perhaps a human trait to want to see certain ancestors as exemplary. But we are all capable of kindness and harm. Seeing the humanity in Lincoln when he wrote about grieving over his son’s death is moving. It is far more interesting to see the full historical person warts and all.

[@robertrobert7924]

I knew about sending free blacks to Liberia, but not the Carribean. Also, I am wondering if anyone proposed the idea of sending freed slaves to Indian reservations in Oklahoma or the Dakotas ?

[@mikemarcelin465]

It's I'L A Vache.Meaning the Cow Island. Today we have one of the biggest Port in Caribbean there.Port Morgan. You did great.

[@Shadowz227]

It sounded like a good idea. Leaves me to wonder, what would have been if it had work?

[@Steelers-rk3ig]

Great video and history update. Wish he could of found away to make it work, we are still dealing with these issues today. Some way to make everyone feel whole.

[@galndixie]

Very good article, you did your research.

[@mizfrenchtwist]

hello great share😊😊😊....i have long known ( as a somewhat armchair historian ) that the civil war , was not about freeing the slaves , but about , bringing about , insuring , the shift of the economic power from the south , to the north. the north no longer had slaves and the south was becoming wildly prosperous , from all of their free slave labor and the production of cotton/sugar etc ........the south was gaining economic dominance over the north , and the north didn't like it . i could go on but i'll stop there.....great share , thank you , for sharing🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰.............

[@MrLoudthought]

As a black man with Dominican(Father)and Haitian (mother) backgrounds. The only white man during that time period that gets my respect is John Brown.

[@no1onu2be19]

I had learned that Lincoln was a white supremacist (who also did a couple of good things as well) outside of school, but I'd never heard of his plans for Ile A Vache specifically. I only read about Liberia. Very interesting. Thank you. Respect.

[@easterlily6803]

"Ile A Vache" I believe means "Cow Island" pronounced like the English word "eel" and Vache sounds like "wash" with a "v"

[@c.rutherford]

No one holding public office can please everyone, all the time. I always felt like Queen Elizabeth was the nicest, most tactful and careful politican I had ever known. She was also staunchly inclusive of all "races", and was close personal friends with Neslon Mandela, who of course led the struggle against aparthied. And yet some people called her a racist, blamed her for slavery, the devil, and on. At that point I decided my first sentence, lol. As for Abraham Lincoln who indeed freed the slaves.... I think he may have felt that African Americans would rather be in their own independent country. Many black activists themselves at that time thought the same- though most of these opted for Liberia, on the African coast. After all many had not been in the U.S. that long then. He will I'm pretty sure be the last statue toppled after all the rest. And then his prophetic words will become true: "It will All become One Thing". A pile of broke marble and rubble lol.

[@TroyBrownTV]

10:40 this isn't a diminishing of Lincoln, it's an accurate account. Thank you

[@JayCeeMax]

You're awesome. You are doing a good job my girl.

[@nytn]

Thank you so much!☺

[@JayCeeMax]

@@nytn Welcome.

[@reggie510]

I love the idea that those who had toiled without salary for generations still needed to prove their work ethic before receiving land or a paycheck...

[@jamesb8193]

Read the speech he made September 18, 1868 in Charleston, Coles County Illinois. The information has always been out there. It should not have to be taught in schools. Maybe what people need to do is to pick up books and start reading. Lazy learning is the problem.

[@larry_saytee]

At different stages, they also sent some free peoples to Canada they made a deal with the British that didn't pan out and ended up in London, England (promises not meet as per usual). Some were sent to other Caribbean islands such as the DR, Trinidad etc.. The biggest group landed in Monrovia, Liberia (West Africa). I am partially descendant of the last group being born in Monrovia.

[@EduardoGonzalez-uf1vf]

In school we thought of Lincoln as a hero, "SOME HERO"