Lindsay's TMS Success Story - ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, Brain Fog, Headaches and Dizziness

[@purpledragonfly2509]

I think being overwhelmed is always a big issue for people with a highly sensitized nervous system. I've followed so many channels, seen so many recovery-stories, but lately I've been cutting back on that a lot, because it made me so confused, always thinking, I missed something. Some even talk about "the puzzle of healing", where you have to find and put various pieces together before you can heal. That just increased my pressure and overwhelm. Dan, that's why I like your approach so much. It is so simple. It boils everything down to the power of the brain and especially the fear. Ty so much!!!

[@beckykay9178]

I agree! I’m glad this woman found what worked for her, but I feel like what she’s describing is making things more complicated than they might really need to be.

[@amyknox7387]

⁠@@beckykay9178I agree 100%

[@mindywilson1111]

I agree, a huge amount of work and time.

[@Truerealism747]

I had SPD long before those CFS fybromyalgia diagnosis causation autism ADHD now diagnosed sensitive subconscious rccx genes

[@marieleak8731]

It worked for her, would Not work for me. Too complex. My Mindset has changed with Dan's work. Actually I had a hard time watching the whole thing.

[@jamesroof6150]

I definitely feel my chronic pain journey is fundamentally a recovery from fear. The fear preceded the back pain, chronic fatigue and shoulder pain. Fear is actually to too soft a word. "Terrified" better describes the mental state of mind I am challenged to overcome and recover from. Thanks for the interview. I always find some nuggets of insight in all these success stories. I hope everyone finds peace of mind and safety in their state of being. It's the key on this road to recover from Fear and Terror. Blessings to All🙏❤

[@pwinters100554]

The best thing I hear from Dan today is that WE ARE NOT Recovering FROM SYMPTOMS, WE ARE RECOVERING FROM F E A R that’s great🎉.

[@discountsatori]

Thanks, Dan and Lindsay! This interview really clicked for me. I felt a lot of similarity between my and Lindsay's personalities and the things that led us into illness. Being a parent, a full-time manager, and a part-time writer, and having lifelong perfectionistic and anxious tendencies around everything in my life .... well, all I needed was a trigger, and I was bedbound. I have not dealt with CFS, but the FEAR of CFS post-Covid was so real that it exacerbated my other symptoms and kept me basically immobile for a long time. Again, probably a personality thing, but I found that having a schedule of things to do really helped me out of the worst of it. Brain retraining, breathwork, somatic exercises, etc. Doing those things at the same times every day, regardless of how I was feeling, was key in getting me out of bed. Once I could, for example, walk around my house with confidence, or work at my desk again, I was able to shift more to a "clarity and indifference" approach, which is where I'm at right now. Not at full functionality, but working on it.

[@ShaneFindlay-w2u]

I enjoyed this video. It clearly illustrated that fear (aka anxiety) isn’t the sole catalyst we need to work on. Each of our recovery journeys are unique. Just my opinion. Thank you for sharing.

[@Oldmaninthestream]

Thanks for the long covid comment Dan. Getting off the fear mongering on reddit and following your path has helped me make huge strides in recovering from long covid.

[@margofeijen2937]

This is the first story that is bringing fear instead of calmness

[@marieleak8731]

My least favorite success story. I watch some of them twice. Not this one.

[@healer.josephine]

Of course, the brain is the master controller of every single process, organ, and cell in the body. Thank you Dan for always challenging our thinking and providing helpful resources and info!

[@hampstertits]

It’s the master of every aspect of our reality!

[@ksen2308]

Those who are dismissing this particular episode as being "too much" may need to do some further inner work, such binary thinking is not a sign of a well regulated nervous system. Just because something works for someone else, doesnt mean it will work for you and vice versa. Take what resonates, leave what doesnt...

[@iamjustsaying1]

She made some excellent points. Emotional repression (ie. not even realizing that you hold any anger), people pleasing, and perfectionism, along with knowing that you are inherently of value, are all things I've struggled with. Also, with CFS, pacing is absolutely essential. Those who are dismissing this particular episode as being "too much" almost caused me to steer away from listening.

[@trevorsmom5690]

Those comments stopped me from watching. I came back to finish because of the short Dan posted with her comment about our value. She does have helpful things to say.

[@kaylabryson1932]

I love the “adjustment periods”. This interview is excellent

[@LoobyLoo71]

Lindsay that was the absolute best interview on me/cfs recovery I’ve ever heard!!!!! Thankyou. I’m taking away your pizza dough analogy!!! Has Raelan Agle interviewed you? Because I’d love to see you on her channel. She reaches so many people in the me/cfs community. Thanks for all you shared today. It really impacted me positively. I’m coming out of 8 years of me/cfs using Dan’s videos and somatic work and also carnivore diet. ❤

[@kmcc72]

I enjoyed this interview. I can relate with her story. I appreciate you, Dan, for sharing different stories and for being willing to listen and learn and try to understand people’s different journeys. I agree with you, Dan, that in the end it all comes down to believing that we are ok.

[@clintsturgill7087]

At one point in my journey watching your videos I would be so bummed when you had a testimonial! Now I loved them! I always get something useful each and every time! You are awesome!

[@thelaceygirl]

I think anytime you do a fixing activity it sends a danger message to your brain. The trick is to find things that calm your nervous system that you enjoy. No one is pain or anxiety free all the time. The human condition is to have pleasure and pain. Life is a constant continuum of both of these. The way to true happiness is to live your purpose. I have recently started telling myself that I want to have a calm body. I believe that not being calm and always being the stress response is the reason for all of my symptoms. Thank you, Dan for all you do and for having great conversations with people, even though you may not be on the same page all the time :-)

[@Daniela-dx8yd]

Very helpful!!!

[@d.perkins6017]

Loved this interview and Lindays energy! Thank you. Lots of great info! ❤

[@bethmulligan1]

I'm glad I took a break to read the comments, they validated the way I was feeling about it. In one sentence she said horrible and awful. Anyway thanks for this community and thank you Dan as always for your clarity 💗🙏 and kindness

[@PainFreeYou]

I understand

[@user-ei3lj3yr5x]

She a survivor of narcissistic abuse and that in itself is and can be causes for mind body disorders. The foundation and building blocks of this illness. It really blows the mind how our body's get ill from these narcissistic monsters. Nothing is ever good enough for them, their daily mental abuse takes the ultimate toll on our systems. And children have this early programming which sets the stage for all of us here!

[@lindapelle8738]

This might be more of what I need because I have very long term trigeminal neuralgia, I was able to get rid of other chronic conditions without Sarno but doing a lot of the things that TMS expert suggest like getting off the Internet stopping treatment etc. but the success stories I see if people with trigeminal neuralgia recovery, there aren’t many, they all seem to have done numerous things to get to full healing. I did have quite a bit of trauma in my childhood.She was very lucky to have such a strong support net work it’s a lot tougher when you don’t have that. As I’ve said before people are so lucky to have The Internet unlike those of us who got sick way before Social media.

[@PainFreeYou]

Scroll through - I have several success stories. TN is curable. TN is caused by the brain perceiving danger. Safety is the solution. PainFreeYouSuccess.com

[@dawnmarie700]

Wow, that gave me so much anxiety. And i've listened to many, many of your stories never felt this way before. I like your approach, Dan. You make it so simple. And that it's plain and simply... FEAR! Her approach made me feel like there were so many other reasons why i'm going through this and and have to fix. that's too scary, to complicated. UGH!!! Yup, the parasite issues scares me. I came off a medication and found groups on Facebook. Alot in the groups think the pill messed up our gut. I became so afraid of food. And tried to figure out how to heal with food for years. I was down to 93 pounds. i'm not a hundred percent convinced, at least my subconscious isn't convinced, That it's not food. I've taken your test and all the stories. Are so similar to us coming off medication that logically. I know it's fear. I've been trying to convince myself for 10 months That it's not food. I think that's where i'm mostly stuck. I'm 65 years old and I live alone. I have 4 grown children and 7 grandchildren. Wonderful kids. But there are some serious issues. Sometimes I think the issues have to resolve before I can get better Because I worry about them, which equals fear. But somewhere in my logical mind I don't believe that's true. But I'm glad you spoke your truth. It helped me. thank you. Just my thoughts. KISS -Keep it simple sweetheart!!!

[@LilyOscar333]

If you find Dan’s approach helpful, believe and Hope you find healing soon. Trust the process 😊

[@dawnmarie700]

@LilyOscar333 Thanks🌷

[@AuroraDushku]

I think the same. Dan’s approach much better♥️

[@Annabel-g4d]

​ @AuroraDushku and @LilyOscar333 You're absolutely right. And I thought the same....I suffered from severe fatigue after a bad virus infection and what tremendously helped me was quitting the whole pacing-stuff (in my opinion that just keeps the fear going) and implementing Dan's approach. After a while I got so much better. You really can trust the process

[@CherryLane-si1yj]

Thank you, Dawn Marie, for this perspective. I find that listening to certain approaches to healing are more triggering than listening to a gruesome description of symptoms. Like, they make me feel as if I’m being dragged back to the days when I had a giant box of supplements and saw doctors and practitioners three times per week. And no offense to anyone. I just really have to watch my own “mental hygiene” around this stuff. It’s so easy to be drawn backward.

[@roseyjohn9707]

Hi Dan and Guess , YES menopause is LEARNED SYMPTOMS . I discovered this in my tms journey, I've been meaning to you Dan. Glad she and you were able to get it out. Love ya ❤❤❤

[@Dragonfly20233]

I love that you guys talked about menopause bc I absolutely think the extreme symptoms of menopause are fear related. There are entire cultures that don't have issues with menopause. My mom was SO excited about menopause bc she had such hard periods every month and she cruised through it with very little issue. I am preparing my mind and body at 46 for the exact same experience. I can not wait to not have periods any more. If that means I have some hot flashes so be it. I'll get a personal fan but I may not have any at all! The body knows how to do this and despite the belief that it is a switch where your hormones just turn off this is so not true. It's a gradual 10-15 year process of slowing down those hormones to literally restructure our brains. It's so fascinating. I am anemic and have done iron transfusions so I can not wait to have normal iron bc Im not having a monthly. I plan to feel so much better! However, if I had not had mind body illness I could have been fooled by all the hype and so, in that respect, I am very grateful for the experience and having come through it. Side not- what a pleasure and wonderful modeling from the both of you of how to disagree on some points respectfully. Thanks to you both!

[@BekiRebotis]

I loved this!

[@marieleak8731]

I like your approach Dan, Simple yet Powerful. Also I see my journey is all about recovering from Fear. Thanks Dan 🤗💕🥰

[@J-xy6eb]

Such an interesting interview with two people I admire. I’ve often felt Dan’s approach is too simplistic for people with CFS. We have highly sensitised nervous systems. You can’t just say oh I just have to stop feeling fear and I’ll be ok. I absolutely agree that fear is a huge factor but it’s a piece of the puzzle. Our systems have been triggered into a cell danger response by something outside of us, usually a virus and usually because we have already pushed our systems to their limit for whatever reason. When you’re in that state, yes, fear makes everything much worse. BUT in my opinion it’s also any kind of stress on the body that can increase symptoms. The problem is STRESS and that includes fear, hormones, viruses, things like difficult relationships, any kind of mental, physical or emotional stress. Dan, I love you but you did not have CFS and you don’t have periods. Please don’t disempower women by saying you think it’s just a fear response to hormones because it’s not. I am approaching menopause and I still have periods and because my body is in a heightened state of sensitivity due to having CFS those things put extra stress on my body which makes my symptoms worse. Lyndsay, much love to you. I really enjoyed your first podcast episodes, they gave me much comfort during a bad dip. Thank you

[@catherinelent6908]

Hear, hear! CFS is a multi-layered condition, and each person does have to sort out the particular pieces of their own puzzle.

[@agentanima4649]

I had to stop watching at 20 Mins. because i don't agree with her in the pacing and the "But CFS is different". That was very triggering. I had the so called TMS in form of CFS too and i was able to come out of it in the last few weeks thanks to you. I love your approach Dan, it's so calming and simple.

[@ezza1236]

Nice work, comments like this are so helpful. Stay away form the weak people in forums lol

[@Dandelionsandbutterflies]

What have you done to help?

[@agentanima4649]

@@Dandelionsandbutterflies I did yin yoga, binge watched success stories and followed Dan‘s advices. Visualisations helped too.

[@margofeijen2937]

I did not like this story. She is telling more times it is phisical. @dan this is not as your are teachjng and I do believe your approach dan

[@SuperFondant-l7l]

I was just going to ask Dan about this. This pem worry is very very limiting and creating fear. I'm going to ask Dan for his final verdict on this In an upcoming group coaching session.

[@jasminewallis8340]

Thank you for your videos! I really hope that one day I can come on here and share my own healing story. I know I will get better ❤️

[@loriewert5267]

Dan sometimes used to bring up the carnivore diet in his zoom sessions. My brother and sister in law are on month 7, I just started two weeks ago when I saw what it did to their lives I had to try it. They were not well, now almost eight months later she is climbing 3 Kms up to the top of a mountain before she starts her eight hour shift at work which is standing all day. Their lives have changed dramatically , and are off all meds and have so much energy. Before I did the TMS work I would never have been able to even contemplate this diet because it’s radical and I would have been too overwhelmed. But doing the TMS work first brought me to a place where I could learn all about it and jump in with both feet. It’s early days for me but anyone interested in this diet I would suggest first going and binge watching Dr Ken Berry on KZbin. Thousands are getting their life back but you need Dan first cuz we have to master the no catastrophizing first and get ourselves calmed down. I’m excited!

[@macijane236]

Kinda triggering not gonna lie. Glad she’s getting better though. But I feel like there’s still a lot of fear brewing.

[@jackiegroden416]

And all of these “modalities” may be worthwhile but you can’t (or I should say shouldn’t ) go near them while your brain/ mind is in a hyper vigilant state… doing all these practices to soon will cause more issues…as Dan has stated calm the brain ( because there is nothing wrong) and a lot of the other pieces fall in place…then if you think you need emotional heeling etc you are able to handle it… I prefer Dans way… it’s what has worked for me (and I’ve tried a lot of other modalities)

[@deborahr3732]

She is helping me so much

[@alexandernordic8551]

The episode I've been waiting for for so long

[@caliborn6884]

To me, in the mold example, your body reacts to the mold because you have been sensitized to it by the brain (and the fear of mold). I have the same situation with chemical smells, I definitely perceive the smells as dangerous (and they are-unfortunately, that grain of truth makes them even more powerful in my mind) but my nuclear reaction to them are wayyyyy out of proportion to the small amount present.

[@Dragonfly20233]

Exactly! This is why not everyone in the environment responds to mold.

[@juliaarambula3153]

Ok when she went away from the mind and went to cellular level my fear just went sky high. Basically you’re screwed. Too much confusion. She started losing me when she said she was still on LDN. Takes my brain in the realm that this is not mental.

[@PainFreeYou]

I understand. Focus on other successes and my daily videos. Don't let this fear grab you.

[@juliaarambula3153]

@ thank you!

[@jamicampbell5714]

Jounaling put me into the biggest depression and anxiety then ocd. I needed like a year, therapy and meds to get out of it..

[@Star5dg]

That's because you hage limbic system dysfunction. Calm limbic system before any trauma / journal work

[@jamicampbell5714]

@ I did. I did like 2 years of limbic work before almost totally symptom free then found Nicoles work and decided to try Journaling to see if that would resolve the last few things. I spoke with dr Stracks and he told me he didn't think Journaling would work for me and that its not a good modality for everyone

[@CorinnaWritingaway]

This was so triggering I had to stop listening at minute 13 when she finally said it’s a physical illness I felt activation all over my body. I guess it’s ok to learn to be with triggers but I am gonna skip this one. I listen to Dan every morning to make my day better so I am going to pick another video!

[@reneea6357]

Ok I’m reluctant to listen to testimonials but I did like the dentist this week. So I gave this a shot. This one just pulled me down a big fear path. And was a revisit to all of these modalities just making me more fearful and in ‘fix’ mode. I think you’ve said not to keep trying new modalities but to keep it simple. This was not simple. Why did you feel this one would benefit your followers?

[@LilyOscar333]

Great story Lindsay you will make a great therapist.. ❤ I totally agree with you there is more than one way to teach your brain that you are safe. I read Richard Schwartz book, it’s really enlightening. I also love listening to Gabor Mate what a wonderful human being. He like Dr Schubiner is a medical doctor. Both now totally dedicated to teaching mind body work. ❤

[@daveh7038]

I think she's making this too complicated.

[@LoobyLoo71]

She’s not. It is complicated. But only a person with me/cfs would know this.

[@ezza1236]

Me/cfs is the most tms thing ever, problem is the forums and people in the community really suck

[@austinlittle1638]

The CFS subreddit comes to mind. Misery loves company!

[@angeliqueberry1568]

​@@austinlittle1638the worst subreddit that ever exists

[@andreaflasher3032]

So what I heard is yes, this is a brain perceiving danger problem. But even Dr Sarno said sometimes some of us might need the advice of a therapist. And what do therapists do? they equip us with different tools to quell those awful stirrings within us: exercise in all its forms, Journaling, meditation, etc etc We're all so different, with our personalities and backgrounds. I guess it's up to us to figure out what works best for us. For some of us it will be a quick fix, for others it will take a bit longer. There's no one-size-fts all here 😮

[@kateking3953]

I so agree. Reassuring myself I had nothing to fear made no difference to me, I didn't believe it, and I ended up housebound! What worked for me was visualising myself walking confidently across the floor indoors without a stick, and the more I visualised it, the more I could do it. As you say different folks, different strokes. Once I started to see glimmers of progress, I began to faintly conceive that things could improve.

[@LilyOscar333]

Well said Andrea.. we all need to find what works for us. ❤

[@andreaflasher3032]

@@kateking3953 ❤

[@andreaflasher3032]

@@LilyOscar333 ❤

[@lynneberry6495]

I usually enjoy the recovery talks but sorry not this one .. Still holding on to her comfort blanket that it was an outside problem that caused the fatigue... Backwards and forwards, contradictory to me... Maybe didn't land the same with others! Agree with you about journaling Dan... Focus on the positive, gratitude, present moment 🙏 but each to their own I guess. That's the second time today I've heard neurodivergent! Never heard of it before🤔 Wikipedia here I come🤣 Thanks anyway Dan .. Hope those people affected by fear listening to this one can shake it off quickly! 💖

[@marieleak8731]

Me as well. Did not enjoy any part of this video.

[@ktanonyoutube]

i appreciate all the success stories you share, dan, but unfortunately, lindsay left the impression that the solution to TMS may involve so many other modalities which runs counter to your message of simplicity. listening to her share left a feeling of discouragement… i had to go back and watch your other videos to cleanse myself of her convoluted free tips. ps. her talk sounded geared to promote her coaching business - so off-putting!

[@sallasox]

Thank Dan for your approach. It made me believe I am well and can get better - and am. Walking with you, so can-do.

[@sallasox]

Thank Dan for your approach. It made me believe I am well and can get better - and am. Walking with you, so can-do.

[@christinamartins8483]

I think this was great, but she always kept going back to saying that the issues were real. Yes, but started them in the first place? Bacteria and Parasites become out of balance when we do something to make that happen.

[@bekamoreno]

Yeah... and when she said she was still taking a pain med... I wanna quit my meds so bad and seeing people recover but still taking them... I feel discouraged

[@annamachalska762]

She said she is taking low dose naltrexone which is not a pain med and this medicine is for people with addictions but low doses might help to boost immune system :)

[@Truerealism747]

​@@annamachalska762gives me energy but not much pain side

[@reneea6357]

I was on very low dose naltrexone (1.5 ml, lowest dose possible and had to ease into that) at the recommendation of my TMS doctor who said it helps some chronic pain sufferers a lot, but they didn’t really know why. It’s used in very high doses for addiction compared to very low doses for chronic pain. I found it mysteriously helped me sleep if I took it at 4pm every day. But I had very vivid dreams - it felt good to sleep but I wasn’t really resting. I’ve been off it for a month now - I felt it was just one more trip to the pharmacy and made me feel I was ‘fixing’. My sleep still is bumpy but better than before naltrexone. And vivid dreams are gone. I’d say hey, if it works for you,more power to you! It’s better than a narcotic painkiller.

[@annamachalska762]

@reneea6357 it never worked for me. Nothing really worked for me but nervous system regulation. Everyone is different.

[@Fluffpuff101-q8f]

This was so so triggering. My god. Mold. Parasites. What!?! Thanks so much Lindsay for basically scaring the shit out of us. Thanks Dan for trying to bring her back down but don’t ever bring her on again. Ahah. There seemed to be some tension on there anyways so I’m sure you won’t.

[@marieleak8731]

I agree!!!!!!

[@juliaarambula3153]

Agreed!

[@colleencox2930]

I do think pacing is important for a lot of people. Whether it’s body or brain. For me when I push it too hard it can become too much for me to respond well or be unbothered by it.

[@lisastormont7450]

Lindsay, please speak to Candida recovery. Thanks for sharing!

[@jessicanilsson5941]

Exaktly Dan !! With my mother my nervous system are so sensitive dysregluraed , i dont feel safe

[@DottieBengo]

With journaling even if you have a trauma, it's 'when do i stop writing about this?'

[@PainFreeYou]

I don't believe we must write about our traumas over and over. Write about it once, but ask what lesson you can learn from that past experience. "It's no longer happening - I am safe now" "that experience wasn't my fault" Get the lesson so the emotional charge from the event can let go. The lesson will keep you safe, not the emotion.

[@LydiaNorris]

I also found that if I go into meditation with no agenda ( trying to fix something) It is much more relaxing..I would not recommend cold plunge for someone with a dis regulated nervous system . I didn't like journaling either.. I had already healed my past and still got CFS.... One question, what are you chewing on?

[@mikeschiffmann3708]

Well I was going to watch this but after scrolling through the comments I turned it off quickly.

[@nataliarakowska1254]

I agree with you ! I normally enjoy listening to recovery chats but this one was just hurting my ears

[@LydiaNorris]

I believe that when she went back to the island she may not have felt fear consciously , her subconscious mind got triggered. We had black mold in our home. I was sick {already) and tried to blame the mold.. no one else in the family was ill at all.

[@marleenlambrichts6234]

I have now a lot of confusing. I dont go back to every thing wat these lady is telling. I did all. I keep it simple

[@LydiaNorris]

Me again haha, I thought I would breeze through menopause, not the case at all.. but I had allot of stress in my life at the time..

[@michelefinizio6520]

😊 thank you for sharing and it makes so much sense when you have anxiety for a very long time you're always in your head that's me so I practice Qigong to get me grounded and safe in my body also how do you know you have repressed emotions? I'm trying to dig up emotions from my past I acknowledge all the pain that happened to me but I'm not sure if they're repressed or not

[@kateking3953]

Hi, just to answer from my own perspective about repressed emotions, because I think they are a very archetypal mindbody thing. I was the child of a working single mother and no extended family, so my childhood was not frightening in terms of abuse or violence, but I had to be farmed out to strangrs after school etc, and very much learn independence early on. I had kids very young, igorance, naivetee, lack of parental teaching etc. Ended up alone with two very small children in a rented cold water flat in Britain in the 70's, working, no money, no utilities, tough. Got cancer at 31. Surgery. Mother got sick with autoimmune and struggled on with it but she died. Me still working to maintain a roof, trying to make something of my life. Bough a home and lost it because of a corrupt and lazy agent. All this time I just kept going, didn't cry, didn't say why me. I rolled up my sleeves and kept going. Repressed emotions??? I was angry, frightened, grief stricken, lonely, despairing. But I couldn't see the point of indulging in those emotions because they wouldn't change anything I had to deal with. It wasn't all bad, there were good times too. But the point is I was 'trained' by my childhood to make the best of things and get on with it. Did I feel safe and secure? Hardly ever!!

[@MargrietS]

In my experience, you don’t have to actively dig up emotions. Because when emotions come up during the day, you can work with them at that time, and sometimes it’s because of something that is happening, today , and sometimes it is related to something from the past. Just follow your emotions and you will be able or learn to distinguish.

[@michelefinizio6520]

Thank you that makes sense to me that you dont have to go digging up past traumas just deal with the here and now. I asked this question because I read books saying you have to make peace with your past and if you have repressed emotions it can put pain in the body it's hard to dig up past emotions from trauma it's much easier to deal with the Here and Now

[@Heathper1214]

Dan, I think I have heard you say that you believe that even if something is structural, the brain can still work through it to resolve pain/symptoms. Is that true? I am personally stuck on the "what if" of structural damage (i have TN, had a clean MRI, but they only checked my brain and face, not neck. So what if it's my neck that's causing the issue?) Would your belief be that if the fear is resolved, then the "what if" of whether there is a structural issue or not is moot?

[@Leonschulze06]

Every third person has the arterie touching the trigeminal nerve, yet they dont experience pain.

[@Heathper1214]

@Leonschulze06 yes, I have heard that as well. My doubt comes from the neck though, not arteries touching the nerve. But I wondered if Dan thought that even if I do have something structural happening with my upper neck, that I could still teach my brain not to fear and thus move beyond the pain. Thank you for your response, I appreciated it

[@PainFreeYou]

What if it's not a body problem at all? If you haven't done the TMS/PDP mindbody assessments, that is how you learn the cause of your pain. IsThisTMS.com Do both assessments. 29 or more on the Pain Test and 1 or more on the FIT assessment means it's a mindbody thing, not an issue with your nerve or neck. Deciding it's your neck and hoping this process will work is not the best way forward. Gaining clarity that it's Mindbody with the assessments will allow you to KNOW it's not your neck.

[@Heathper1214]

@@PainFreeYou I've done them. I scored high. I'm just still struggling to silence the "what-ifs" and doubts. I am really trying to just move forward as though it is true, that it is Mindbody. Thanks. ❤️

[@CaitlynBratton]

Quick question Dan and I'm going to join your group for November. I have been doing this TMS work about 4 months now. I have made some progress. However, I have about 4 or 5 good days with no pain/symptoms, then it comes right back with a vengeance for like another 4 or 5 days, then goes away, and so on. Do you think my brain is just demonstrating a conditioned response? It's so hard to deal with when it's a roller coaster. And alot of the times I'm not necessarily scared when it comes on. I guess it could be my subconscious. It just feels never ending and gets discouraging :( I'm planning on joining your class next Tuesday. So didn't know how to submit this question for that.

[@mezzoishere]

Many folks diagnosed with chronic fatigue don’t have the blood markers. They are diagnosed on symptoms only.

[@jessicanilsson5941]

I dont now why i got one day pain and one day anixty it feels like nervous system are stucked

[@AuroraDushku]

Dan she is keep talking about techniques and things to calm the body. But if is the brain controlling everything why using this thing to heal the body?

[@katiecarter3301]

I thought the same thing.

[@PainFreeYou]

Disregard the info if it overwhelms you. Everybody has a different journey. This was hers, but doesn't mean you need to follow it. Stick with my approach.

[@kateking3953]

@@PainFreeYou What I notice is there are many approaches that heal people, and they are all different - meditation and visualisation, brain retraining, carnivore diet, vegan, etc. What seems to be the key component is that the individual totally believes and commits to their process. That's what works. If you can conceive it, as the old saying goes, you can achieve it.

[@Dragonfly20233]

I feel like she's made a lot of wonderful progress and has a great testimony, however I also don't think that connection has quite clicked just yet that even the "provable" things and even the cell danger response(which is real) is really all still being controlled by the brain. People have been living in moldy climates for all of history. People pace bc they have decided pacing feels safe not bc it is bc they have decided it is the safe way so it makes them feel safe. If you have mono- pace. If you have the flu- pace until a reasonable recovery period otherwise it is fear.

[@nickyathos8162]

Sorry l didn't quite understand what she was saying

[@daveh7038]

Journaling didn't work for me either. I did plenty of it .

[@hanacharvatova825]

How you overcame sibo?

[@aandrayadasilva1308]

Also, I have a feeling Lindsay has no idea of how Dan works with clients or even watches his videos, this was a very unusual video. Dan- you were very gracious with her!!

[@jessicanilsson5941]

How to feel safe ??? I dont got safe in my body

[@PainFreeYou]

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[@WordsBloom]

Dan, I assumed you were fully recovered. Was I wrong to assume that? Because the way you quickly stopped your guest from explaining what a fecal transplant is, it seemed like you were afraid of hearing the definition, as if it might trigger you? Was I reading you wrong? I understand why you don't allow people to talk about symptoms other than in a very watered-down superficial way because someone listening might get triggered - I don't agree with it but I understand -- but why would you stop someone from explaining a medical procedure?

[@PainFreeYou]

I am 100% recovered and haven't had any chronic symptoms for well over a decade. I am hardly triggered and know exactly what the procedure entails. However, I run a mindbody education program where procedures like that are not something I recommend to my audience. I don't want my audience to get scared into believing that they need a procedure like that to recover. My audience has tried countless medical procedures - many with NO success and only more lost money and fear.

[@WordsBloom]

@@PainFreeYou Oh I see. Thank you.

[@jackiegroden416]

@@PainFreeYouand personally I think we all know (most of us) what a decal implant is and we don’t need the details 😂

[@Archiebean]

Lets face it, she does not get it all.

[@the_city_gent2856]

My god, this was painful to watch. Had to turn it off at 30 mins. Sorry Dan. You're amazing, but i found lindsay very overbearing

[@cdajx9760]

Book review?

[@JoanK-m1t]

Why did you invite a guest with whom you repeatedly discounted?

[@BrendaJarrell-w3b]

Please stop using initials to describe something. I don’t know what they are.

[@jessicanilsson5941]

But the body can be in unsafe because of trauma ( in body ) and that take your dangerresponce in brain

[@PainFreeYou]

And safety in the present can help to resolve that trauma.

[@jessicanilsson5941]

@ yes to be safe in my body

[@aandrayadasilva1308]

I think Lindsay means well but I think she’s got very little experience in the mind/body area. She is still very involved in the medical side of things and is all over the place with her ideas and trying to incorporate too many very unnecessary modalities. This interview doesn’t really fit Dan’s approach and that of successful TMS or mind/body coaches. She also tried to teach Dan here which was pretty funny knowing the amount of experience that he has. Dan- I would take this off your channel.

[@jessicanilsson5941]

My mother are a narcissist and Think all energy ..

[@Kovek1988]

Move away from your mother...

[@anannaafrin2017]

What kinda fibromyalgia pain she had ??

[@Truerealism747]

Muscles would if thought as most if us

[@anannaafrin2017]

@ but what kinda pain she had , didn’t mention. Like stiffness or full body aches

[@pollyannekrippaehne1337]

She talked over Dan so many times! Yikes!