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Lindybeige

Lindybeige

13 жыл бұрын

The first (of my) rants with no copyrighted music!
www.LloydianAspects.co.uk

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@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@geneticanomaly And Reagan was a divorced actor, and Kennedy was an Irish Catholic, and Roosevelt was in a wheelchair. Now have you spotted the pattern?
@fidur2
@fidur2 9 жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair, the first to climb the Everest without oxygen tanks did something everyone said was impossible.
@Yorikoification
@Yorikoification 8 жыл бұрын
+fidur2 Well that's less of a sub category and more of a modified approach.
@92Roar
@92Roar 8 жыл бұрын
+fidur2 first paraplegic?
@fidur2
@fidur2 8 жыл бұрын
***** Well, if they guy cralws up over 8800 meters, he deserves some recognition.
@joshuarosen6242
@joshuarosen6242 8 жыл бұрын
+fidur2 That is very different. When Reinhold Messner climbed Everest without oxygen, he did something even more difficult than Hillary and Tenzing. Messner was (along with Habeler) the first person to climb Everest without the aid of oxygen. He wasn't the first Tyrolean to climb Everest (although of course he was but no-one cares).
@fidur2
@fidur2 8 жыл бұрын
Joshua Rosen I know Messner! I kinda feel sorry for him. Lost his brother doing what he loved. Also, being the first person to ever climb all 8Km+ mountains in the world is quite a feat on it's own, no need to speak of the first no-oxygen ascent. Anyway, I kinda disagree with Loyd in some aspects of this video.
@grannytorrelli2560
@grannytorrelli2560 8 жыл бұрын
It really is annoying when people claim they've "opened the door for people of (insert group) to do (insert task)." Generally, the door has been open for a while and they were just the first to walk through it.
@michaeledmunds1767
@michaeledmunds1767 7 жыл бұрын
Granny Torrelli Indeed, it implies that no other person of the group could have done it, as if they are special
@kaylew108
@kaylew108 6 жыл бұрын
As in.... THE FIRST HISPANIC WOMEN TO...so on and so forth lol
@jeice13
@jeice13 5 жыл бұрын
Especially as they wouldnt have done it if it werent possible for their group yet, especially with awards as that is handed out by whoever is the judge
@gonzaloayalaibarre
@gonzaloayalaibarre 9 жыл бұрын
First! (First comment since the 19.885 views mark)
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 9 жыл бұрын
Gonzalo Ayala Ibarre Two points.
@isaweesaw
@isaweesaw 9 жыл бұрын
Gonzalo Ayala Ibarre I'm the first ambidextrous person from Bedfordshire to like this video. Haha! >:D
@howdoilogin
@howdoilogin 8 жыл бұрын
+Lindybeige I'm the first person to reply to this specific comment in particular.
@isaweesaw
@isaweesaw 7 жыл бұрын
I'm the first person in 2016 to comment on this thread. I think Lloyd drove this point home quite nicely.
@olliephelan
@olliephelan 7 жыл бұрын
first 6th reply to your post (by a ginger haired TOO )
@XCritonX
@XCritonX 9 жыл бұрын
"If I can see far its only because I stand on the corpses of giants, that I killed, with a sword, for being taller than me." - Me
@smitty3624
@smitty3624 9 жыл бұрын
Remind me to never ever go near your house.
@andrewharper1609
@andrewharper1609 4 жыл бұрын
How tall are you, you might need to see a therapist for small man syndrome.
@dELTA13579111315
@dELTA13579111315 3 жыл бұрын
6'7" here, fight me.
@hawks1ish
@hawks1ish 8 жыл бұрын
Donate now to the men in rust coloured jumpers foundation it's a worthy cause supporting men in rust coloured jumpers everywhere get their voice heard on KZbin lol
@bobcostas6272
@bobcostas6272 3 жыл бұрын
I only support beige men
@Juxtavarious
@Juxtavarious 9 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I'd be pretty damn impressed at the first quadriplegic to climb Mt Everest solo. If there was something that categorically differentiated you in terms of ability from predecessors, then I would say that that is worthy of some recognition. Then there are some tasks that I don't think it matters if you were the first to do it or not, accomplishing it or surviving it at all is what's impressive. There's any number of war stories from around the world of people who have survived multiple incursions with a decreasing number of limbs, organs, and sense and ultimately accomplished their goals.
@TheRadioactiveFX
@TheRadioactiveFX 9 жыл бұрын
one does not simply go to mt. everest solo.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 8 жыл бұрын
+Juxtavarious Wouldn't the first quadriplegic have actually jut been carried up Everest?
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 8 жыл бұрын
+Wikiramblings That is an example of an increasingly difficult task, not just narrowing the category for a "Me too, dammit look at ME!" claim.
@Juxtavarious
@Juxtavarious 8 жыл бұрын
The Chopping Block He's got teeth.
@SPACKlick
@SPACKlick 7 жыл бұрын
Was about to comment basically the same thing. The real issue here is that the "categorisation" first has expanded. Older examples are almost all first (person of a category that makes the task different in kind) to achieve the task. And slowly expand to include identity categorisations. Even early uses of first woman to x or first black person to x were because in the existing culture and climate of the time it was a significantly harder task for a woman or black person to have done x. Amelia Earheart's transatlantic flight for instance was worthy of note, not because the actual flight was harder, I'm sure her and Lindbergh faced much the same difficulty but because for a woman to have become an aviator both capable of doing it and having enough respect from other aviators to be given the opportunity to do it was an achievement in the 30's.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@themomaw You can still climb Everest for yourself, and you may be challenging yourself to the utmost, and get great satisfaction from success. I can enjoy dancing without having to be the world best or first dancer.
@kittysplode
@kittysplode 4 жыл бұрын
you're also not the best racist. just out with it, this vile attitude of undeserved superiority that permeates black and feminist culture needs to be extinguished, possibly with fire. at some point, we need to stand up and support those devoted enough to actually suffer humanity's advances. personal struggles are for cunts.
@varggut
@varggut 3 жыл бұрын
@@kittysplode perhaps you would look less of a twat if you spoke less generally, and actually mentioned how he's such a racist. Just saying "you are this and that's the end of it" doesn't back your point at all.
@kittysplode
@kittysplode 3 жыл бұрын
@@varggut the point was that he wasn't, so i guess you need better schooling ;~;
@kryl0b
@kryl0b 8 жыл бұрын
Robert Falcon Scott and his team reached the south pole and, because of either bad luck or poor planning, did not survive the return journey. In honour of his great feat, his wife was granted the title Knight Widow, he had a research institute named after him and several monuments celebrating him... Roald Amundsen, who not only also reached the pole, but did so five weeks BEFORE Scott, and survived the return? Greeted with utter indifference and, at a banquet to celebrate the victors, was treated to a toast... dedicated to the dogs that pulled him there... So sometimes, we do remember the second one better than the first. They just have to make sure they die in the attempt.
@snooderblade315
@snooderblade315 7 жыл бұрын
I dont know about the rest of the world but here in the entirety of Scandinavia along with the rest of the norwegian explorers are remembered by Norwegians, Swedes and Danes, so it might just be that where the person is born is where he or she will be remembered.
@swapode
@swapode 5 жыл бұрын
There might be a bit of british revisionism in there. I think Amundsen is much better known in most places. And it's not even his only impressive first with the north-west-passage and possibly even the north pole.
@roybennett9788
@roybennett9788 5 жыл бұрын
@Marry Christmas well. When amundsen set off south he did send a telegram to scott saying he was heading south
@Liggliluff
@Liggliluff 4 жыл бұрын
@@swapode _> "There might be a bit of british revisionism in there"_ Kinda like how USA say they won the space race; when they defined what the goal was after it was done. Soviet put the first animal in space, first human in space, first landing on the moon, Venus and Mars even. But only because USA put humans on the moon, that counts, but nothing else.
@swapode
@swapode 4 жыл бұрын
@@Liggliluff In the immortal words of George Orwell: Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
@TheRhinehart86
@TheRhinehart86 9 жыл бұрын
Actually I remember there being a bit of controversy over Halle Berry's Oscar. That same year a bunch of Australians got Oscars, like Baz Lurman and Russell Crowe or something and a lot of people thought Nicole Kidman should have got it for Moulin Rouge, but rather than give another Australian award they gave it to a hot token black actress who's acting abilities are generally regarded as being pretty shit.
@koalabrownie
@koalabrownie 9 ай бұрын
No, that's not the controversy imo. When Halle Barry won, Denzel Washington also won AND they gave an honorary Oscar to Sidney Poitier. So it did seem like very much like a coordinated, political move rather than simply based on merit. Which doesn't prove the two were undeserved, especially in the case of Denzel who now has no less than 10 Oscars. Also I don't think Halle really opened the door when in the 21 years since then, no other african american woman has won best actress (though many have won best supporting). Though maybe that says more about who is being cast as lead actress
@robertwhiteii3208
@robertwhiteii3208 7 жыл бұрын
Watching in 2016 and I'm referring to the end of the video: First woman? I wonder if hill... nah nah no way
@The007dinosaur
@The007dinosaur 7 жыл бұрын
Correct!
@handsomebrick
@handsomebrick 7 жыл бұрын
Instead, it's the first reality TV star.
@bartekkko
@bartekkko 7 жыл бұрын
well, reagan was an actor...
@mrblowhard2u
@mrblowhard2u 7 жыл бұрын
In your opinion.
@sern3149
@sern3149 10 жыл бұрын
I read the title and thought this would be a rant about "born-again virgins"...
@ComradeBobby
@ComradeBobby 10 жыл бұрын
Get off youtube, Stannis. You have a war to win!
@vitoc8454
@vitoc8454 8 жыл бұрын
How about youngest and oldest? There's something admirable about achieving physical feats when your body is either way below or way past the "physical prime." There's this Japanese girl who scaled a professional-level cliff when she was barely 13, and a British woman trekked *alone* across the Antarctic when she was *60*
@Bane_questionmark
@Bane_questionmark 8 жыл бұрын
+Vito C I mean, staying alive is technically a physical feat, but based on the actual age of the current oldest person, the fact that they were healthy enough and survived that long was just blind luck. Like, can you imagine living to 120 growing up without most of the health knowledge we know now? Some people just hit the jackpot (or ate a lot of fish). Like that WW2 vet who mows his own lawn with a push mower, drinks a glass of whiskey and smokes two cigars (at least) a day, and says he's never felt better.
@andresmc4213
@andresmc4213 4 жыл бұрын
I thought about that, and the problem I see is there is always the possibility that someone younger or older might also do it.
@19Koty96
@19Koty96 8 жыл бұрын
I have heard of a person that has been first disabled on Kilimanjaro and Elbrus - and he himself says that it pisses him off that he's glorified for that, saying, that he had people with him - it was not his own achievment... and that he was doing it to actually get there, not to be the first in the first place. Like - "I like mountains, therfore I climb - but hey, does that mean I'm really gonna be first one?"
@selenagamya1612
@selenagamya1612 7 жыл бұрын
The Guinness Book of World Records is notorious for doing things like this. For literally every single record to do with being the first at something, it's always the first man, the first woman, the first black man, the first black woman, and continue this on for every gender-race combination that has achieved this "record."
@doornik1142
@doornik1142 10 жыл бұрын
I remember watching a documentary about the building of the Golden Gate Bridge, the biggest suspension bridge in the world at the time. When they finally finished it and opened it to the public it was a huge event and San Franciscans came in a huge mob to cross the bridge on foot. And what absolutely _killed_ me was that every 3rd or 4th person crossing the bridge was carrying some stupid sign announcing themselves as the "first [blank] to cross the Golden Gate Bridge". There was a woman at the front with a sign "first woman to cross the Golden Gate Bridge" and there was a black man with a "first black man" sign and even some asshole in a big wooden hat who'd, and I swear I'm not kidding, dubbed himself "first person in a big wooden hat to cross the Golden Gate Bridge".
@diodamke1007
@diodamke1007 2 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on whether the sub-group the person belongs to modifies the achievement in some significant way. First person to climb Mt. Everest: notable First Chinese person to climb Mt. Everest: not notable First person over 60 years of age to climb Mt. Everest: notable
@nedwatson9026
@nedwatson9026 Жыл бұрын
I think one of the things that this video misses is that the socio- and geopolitics matter too. It's not really notable to be the first Chinese person to climb Mt. Everest. On the other hand, it _is_ notable to be the first Chinese person to walk on the moon, since it implies that China has the technological expertise to send people to the moon, and that person would be widely celebrated in China. In other words, even if the person isn't "opening doors", it can indeed be significant for members of a group to achieve something for the first time, since other members of that group might well look to them as an example.
@jeice13
@jeice13 3 ай бұрын
​@@nedwatson9026 well first chinese person on the moon either means a country did something already proven by america or that america just repeated something they already did and that was the astronaut they picked. Neither is really a significant first
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 11 жыл бұрын
?? Please give me details, so that I can track this. Which videos could you not see, and what country are you in?
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@madasnave My point was that the first _member of group X_ is not important.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@Kanupel In certain circumstances, yes, but usually no. The first man to give birth to a baby would be a proper first.
@weebnonce8327
@weebnonce8327 3 жыл бұрын
its happened
@OptimalOwl
@OptimalOwl 8 жыл бұрын
Though you have to admit, the surplus firsts make for excellent Trivial Pursuit questions.
@wantcookies123
@wantcookies123 13 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you said "highest" and not"tallest" when referring to Everest.
@Arariel3
@Arariel3 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the Haley rant!
@calebgray7782
@calebgray7782 10 жыл бұрын
There are people who break glass ceilings who deserve some recognition. Things like the first black person to be allowed in American professional sports. There are things where race, gender, disability or nationality are the only barrier to doing something mundane, and sometimes people break those barriers though ingenuity or competence.
@lifefindsaway7875
@lifefindsaway7875 9 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that the first of 'oppressed subgroup' is more significant than the first of 'a really specific subgroup' Lloyd makes the point himself in the video, that knowing something is possible makes it easier. Before Barack Obama, it could be said that blacks will never reach the same levels of power in the u.s. That's why the first black, gay, female actress might actually deserve her acceptance speech, so give Hallie her mike back!
@stephenhumphriesArtist
@stephenhumphriesArtist 5 жыл бұрын
Delightful. Please make more of these.
@handsomebrick
@handsomebrick 7 жыл бұрын
I'm actually more intrigued by the second person, or as I call them, the first imitator. This is the person who shows everyone that the feat can be duplicated, thus birthing a trend; this person also defines the nature of the record, by laying the foundation for the pattern that follows. I would love to know what makes this person tick, more so than the first.
@bowmanc.7439
@bowmanc.7439 6 жыл бұрын
handsomebrick this I can agree on. One anomaly can be ignored, but duplicator result is useful to society.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@4wilkinsons Possibly, although on this one I don't think that sources will help. You can Google for that oscar speech by H Berry - that's how I found it (MetaCafe).
@amritpalsingh517
@amritpalsingh517 7 жыл бұрын
I really like the fact that "knowing it's possible makes it much less difficult"
@thitherword
@thitherword 7 күн бұрын
And here we have Lindybeige capturing the ridiculousness of intersectionality thirteen years ago.
@Miko92ster
@Miko92ster 13 жыл бұрын
some of your recent films are so fild with anger and rage, i hope nothing bad happend, co cheers :) Oh and stil love the vids :D
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@Adjuni Yes. that's the point. All those types of people have become president already.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@wesmatron I am yet in my life to witness such a mountain of derision.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@TheBoyFromNorfolk Yes, but those are not types of person, you are naming the achievement itself.
@pedroalexandredillemburg3751
@pedroalexandredillemburg3751 2 жыл бұрын
This video is great because It makes sense on why some fighters start to losing their bouts left and right after their First major loss
@lostyogi8712
@lostyogi8712 8 жыл бұрын
I think that guy that climbed Mt Everest without any legs probably is the exception to the rule.........
@Moribax85
@Moribax85 8 жыл бұрын
or the ones that did it without oxygen tanks, an know why? because they're not making it easier, because they're adding a level of challenge
@Elwood288
@Elwood288 6 жыл бұрын
Went to a space museum with a hallway filled with pictures of people who reminded me of this video. First black woman in space, hispanic woman so on and so forth.
@gfodale
@gfodale 8 жыл бұрын
Years and years ago, I was the first to shovel chicken crap out of a 'particular' chicken coop. It took all day, and I was exhausted, but it lowered the floor by a good yard. (as in three feet) It was a good day. :)
@gfodale
@gfodale 8 жыл бұрын
Done that and horse, just throwing out some humor that day......
@OndrejSc
@OndrejSc 8 жыл бұрын
Knowing that it's possible is a massive advantage. That is quotable.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@brentontstumpf I think you pressed the 1911 April Fool button by mistake.
@LukeOfTroy
@LukeOfTroy 8 жыл бұрын
3 cheers for Michael Collins.
@MsPenink
@MsPenink 7 жыл бұрын
It counts towards people's personal goals, which has value, even if no one else cares.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@elgostine You write of things long before I was born.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@leeham991 Only if it's all four limbs.
@andrewschroeder4167
@andrewschroeder4167 3 жыл бұрын
The difference is really a matter of whether you have redefined the categorization of the task that you accomplished or whether you redefined the categorization of the person who accomplished the task. First person to climb Mt. Everest without oxygen is significantly different from the first person to climb Mt. Everest the same way everyone else did before but they were the first person to do it born in Australia. The task was the same but the person doing it was different. However, a person's background is sometimes a good indicator of societal changes and trailblazers for disadvantaged groups. First black person to do such and such or first woman to do such and such may still be a noteworthy accomplishment, not because of the task itself, but because of the barriers to entry.
@Liggliluff
@Liggliluff 4 жыл бұрын
I want to lump in this argument that is "this is the first time since X", instead of saying the more accurate "it hasn't happened since X". I find it silly to say "first" when it isn't the first time of all time.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@4wilkinsons Well done. You were actually first.
@Liggliluff
@Liggliluff 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly 4wilkinsons's comment is now gone, but your reply will serve as the proof of this achievement.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 4 жыл бұрын
@@Liggliluff Some things are important. This might not be one of them.
@James-tz3bn
@James-tz3bn 4 жыл бұрын
Lindybeige great reply
@MikaelDryden
@MikaelDryden 13 жыл бұрын
Being first is over-rated, to be last is a real achievement.
@giulioaprati338
@giulioaprati338 3 жыл бұрын
Boy Is he ahead of his times
@Snurf35751
@Snurf35751 9 жыл бұрын
I really like the intro on this one.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@KKarron Actually, I rather liked the yelling - more in the nature of a good rant.
@ChaohsiangChen
@ChaohsiangChen 13 жыл бұрын
Could you do a follow-up video on Landsknechts, their Harnisch and Renaissance pike tactics?
@htomerif
@htomerif 7 жыл бұрын
As a scientist (you are an archaeologist, correct?), the value of the second and third people to have done a thing is enormous. When it comes to science, verification, repeatability, is our metric of success. Imagine if we'd stopped with one experiment in cold fusion, or one experiment measuring the charge of the electron. One experiment showing that a particular drug doesnt have "death" as a side effect? If you want to constrain this video specifically to tasks ultimately irrelevant to the progress of man like ascending a rock or winning a fake gold statue of a small man, have at it, but the second and third and every successive verification in science are vital to all we now know (with the possible exception of archaeology.)
@cherry8977
@cherry8977 7 жыл бұрын
The point, as it applies to this example, is that the person who synthesized the procedure is more significant than those that simply followed the procedure to produce the same result.
@htomerif
@htomerif 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, not at all. The point was that he has no value for the first black, gay, female or handicapped person to do a thing if its already been done by someone else. _My_ point, since it apparently was not obvious, was that throwing science in there was a stupid thing to do as a "scientist". It shouldn't have been included at all. It muddies the waters because of what I already said. When it comes to science, the person who "synthesized the procedure", by which I assume you mean "came up with a test to verify a hypothesis" is often _not_ the person who first discovers a phenomenon as the tools on the cutting edge of science are often incapable of carrying out said test. Honestly, I wouldn't be making the point at all if it weren't for his nearly legendary failure to understand the scientific method across a dozen or so of his videos. Ill stop there, since thats already too long.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@sniperquasi Lots of people can say that.
@charlesvonhabsburg3107
@charlesvonhabsburg3107 8 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone else said it too!
@crbielert
@crbielert 5 жыл бұрын
Standing on the shoulders of giants
@jonathanpresson777
@jonathanpresson777 11 жыл бұрын
Dude! That's on you. I strive, each and every day, to do whatever I can to be productive. It doesn't matter if I'm the first. All that matters is that I do my best. Look at this way, you can ALWAYS improve upon something, and that's good for self satisfaction. You don't have to have a statue of yourself to make a difference.
@Magmafrost13
@Magmafrost13 9 жыл бұрын
I can't say I knew the name of the _first_ person to run a 4 minute mile.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@whowantsabighug You weren't even the first to be wrong about being first.
@BlacksmithTWD
@BlacksmithTWD 7 жыл бұрын
Well, I understand it can be annoying. But on the other hand, its always a subgroup. The first we place a statue for is only the first we know about. How many different statues do we have for the one who first discovered America? Columbus? oh no, we dug up some sort of norman settlement dated way before Columbus.. But hey, weren't there people living there already? How did they get there? Someone must have gone to America way before those normen. Do we even have a statue for him/her? And now we know about this, are we going to remove all statues of Columbus? And what about the kid in the classroom who, when the teacher asked to find America on the map, found it first? Isn't he allowed some pride on his/her achievement? It may well be that the actress in the example didn't know about any of the previous oscar winners.
@CarlStreet
@CarlStreet 8 жыл бұрын
Let me be the first to congratulate you on your first... :)
@mosherubenstein8248
@mosherubenstein8248 5 жыл бұрын
I'm the first person in July 2019 to comment on on this video on a day and month that add up to the last two digits of the year (7+12=19). Huzzah!
@properjob2311
@properjob2311 3 жыл бұрын
Applied this years oscars by everyone
@gaborb.2926
@gaborb.2926 7 жыл бұрын
this rant intro music is more catchy than the current one...please Lindy use his again
@marcdecock7946
@marcdecock7946 5 жыл бұрын
At mount everest the following conversation took place... Hillary. You should go up there first so we put your name. Hillary's guide... Nah, it's not that great up there... Hillary... How do you know Hillary's guide.... We had a barbecue there next week... My aunts complained it was too windy
@lessonslearned6760
@lessonslearned6760 7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it is noteworthy for a "subgroup" of humanity to achieve something for the first time if that "subgroup" has cultural barriers they must overcome as well.
@user-wv8kr3yn6l
@user-wv8kr3yn6l 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many comments there are on this video that say FIRST!!
@boggull
@boggull 8 жыл бұрын
+Simon S (Squoo38) over 9000
@Halo_Legend
@Halo_Legend 4 жыл бұрын
I posted the 500th comment Get on my level
@liamcaplin6011
@liamcaplin6011 8 жыл бұрын
When he says left handed, ginger heard and you worry that it's directed at you
@Wulfbanes
@Wulfbanes 13 жыл бұрын
You rant beautifully.
@jetdaved
@jetdaved 9 жыл бұрын
Roger Bannister was (at best) the second person to run the four-minute mile. James Parrott was the first and who remembers him?
@MagnusSkiptonLLC
@MagnusSkiptonLLC 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder who was the first person to yell first
@firedfried
@firedfried 13 жыл бұрын
hey people, thename of the vid is "Only the first first counts". climb the everest (for exemple) is a great thing, doesn't matter your sub race. it just don't count as a first. if a amputee climb everest, it would be a great deal, but why brag on being "the first"?
@xTheRealKestrelx
@xTheRealKestrelx 5 жыл бұрын
Climbing everest with a missing big toe would probably be pretty challenging
@Furudal
@Furudal 5 жыл бұрын
Neil Armstong was the first man to step on the moon. He did with only the support with 4% of the US GDP (I think I can remember that of the top of my head "in my opinion" ;-) ) So great achievement for him...
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 13 жыл бұрын
@DavidBennell No, second (see below).
@TheBoyFromNorfolk
@TheBoyFromNorfolk 13 жыл бұрын
What about solo achievements? The first to climb Everest alone, for example? Is that a separate enough achievement? Getting somewhere by one means or another? Rowing opposed to swimming for example, or sticking with everest, the first without oxygen?
@ColdNapalm42
@ColdNapalm42 13 жыл бұрын
Well for physical activities, the first man and first women tend to be a big deal. Generally speaking, the first of subgroup is kinda meh, but the man/woman deal generally tends to be somewhat of a bigger deal.
@R0XYF0X
@R0XYF0X 3 жыл бұрын
Though I have to argue, while the "first first" is the interesting one for showing that a particular thing is possible, many people before that very thing probably did similar things for you to allow this to happen. And many people after refined whatever that "first first" was doing, leading to the next considered "big thing". I know this wasn't the point of the video, but I was bugged by that sensationalist view on progress. It's a steady thing and those peaks of achievements aren't as high as they're often made out to be.
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 8 жыл бұрын
Who 'bout Columbus? He wasn,t the first to discover America...he wasn't even the first European to get there!
@wobbenbuffet3286
@wobbenbuffet3286 8 жыл бұрын
+Mercure250 Well that one is just a history fuck up. Also you'll find the comma key 2 keys to the right of the letter "l"
@SepticFuddy
@SepticFuddy 8 жыл бұрын
+Wobben Buffet That's an apostrophe, m8.
@CompoundInterest-SG
@CompoundInterest-SG 3 жыл бұрын
This summarizes quite well why I cringe every time I hear Kamela Harris congratulate herself on being the first this that and other thing. Doubly cringeworthy given that a large part of why she was picked as vice-presidential candidate was exactly because she belongs to those groups.
@flyswryan
@flyswryan 3 жыл бұрын
I ran the mile in high school in 3:58:55, but since I wasn’t officially on the track team, it was unofficial, which I couldn’t really care less about, as it was my personal best. I didn’t run that fast for any reason other than to see if I could. I met that goal and moved on, both with zero fanfare.
@nedwatson9026
@nedwatson9026 Жыл бұрын
I don't mean to call you a liar, but that would be one of the top 10 fastest high school miles of any person, anywhere. People who run that fast are pre-olympic runners - not randos who are "not officially on the track team".
@flyswryan
@flyswryan Жыл бұрын
My time was corroborated by three coaches, two from other schools, so I took them at their word. I ran a lot for years before, chasing horses, running to school because I missed the bus, and just because I enjoyed it. I trained on hilly country roads. I quit running when I met a man who had run two decades prior, and had one knee and two hip replacements to prove it. I decided that was too high a price to pay later...I still have all my original parts! I also was aware that people who can run really fast and have a lot of stamina, truly are freaks, and I didn't want to get "freak" for a nickname. There are probably thousands of us out there, but they haven't been given the opportunity and encouragement to realize their athletic potential. I had to work to keep my horses fed, thus didn't have time to go to track practice and attend away meets. The team coach was very kind and let me run exhibition at home meets. I wore no pinny, but did wear the team shorts, shirt, and socks. The coach told me I was good for demoralizing the other runners, especially the ones I lapped during my final lap around the quarter mile track.
@capnclawhammer3024
@capnclawhammer3024 10 жыл бұрын
I want to be the first banjoist in space wearing an eyepatch while eating chicken fried steak.
@capnclawhammer3024
@capnclawhammer3024 10 жыл бұрын
And playing the banjo simultaneously, of course.
@junoguten
@junoguten 9 жыл бұрын
Thought you were gonna say the second way to gain a bit of fame is to do it tremendously better than anyone else.. >first woman If it's Hillary Clinton, I'll just find too hilarious the fact that she married her way into politics. That would sure do miracles to deconstruct gender roles ;)
@KarstenOkk
@KarstenOkk 9 жыл бұрын
junoguten Marrying into politics is SO much worse than being born into politics, am I right!? Haha!
@junoguten
@junoguten 9 жыл бұрын
KarstenOkk True, they're both not standing on her own two feet. Marrying into it is particularly funny since she's a feminist though :-) You can imagine my shock when I first heard it might come to between Bush #3 and Clinton #2.
@KarstenOkk
@KarstenOkk 9 жыл бұрын
junoguten I still don't think too badly of it. It might be necessary for the first one or two female US Presidents to have a little bit of help, and them *actually* paving the way for other women with increased equality in elitist politics.
@junoguten
@junoguten 9 жыл бұрын
KarstenOkk Well put.
@Bane_questionmark
@Bane_questionmark 8 жыл бұрын
+KarstenOkk But shouldn't we just pick the best person for the job? If we *help out* the first female Pres., are we really doing them a favor by saying the only way a woman can ascend to the office is with help? Personally, I'm of the opinion that women don't need the help, at least not any more. When the woman comes along who is both talented enough and even interested in politics (which women are less than men statisticly. Actually, if you look at how many women:men run for office and compare it to how many are actually in office, and it turns out a higher percentage of female political candidates actually win, meaning they're *over*represented, but I digress), we will have or first president who happens to have a vagina. But, it really shouldn't matter. Men and women are mostly equal in every way, so it shouldn't actually matter what the president's sex is. Curious why feminists obsess about people's gender, it truly is.
@StrikaAmaru
@StrikaAmaru 8 жыл бұрын
TvTropes calls this "overly narrow superlative". It makes for great mockery.
@Zanthorr
@Zanthorr 3 жыл бұрын
pls bring back this intro
@Mangekyu10
@Mangekyu10 13 жыл бұрын
It's quite true that the first person to be able to accomplish a certain feat is always remembered, but there's also the ability for a person to take that great accomplishment away somehow. For example, a person might become famous for being the first person to run the mile in 4 minutes, but they will fade into obscurity when someone is able to do it in 3 minutes. It seems as though if you're able to accomplish a task in less time than the first person, then you somehow obtain that person's fame
@Liggliluff
@Liggliluff 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 9 years late. But the point about doing it in as short time as possible isn't about doing it first, and not the topic of this video. Doing it first and doing it within the shortest time are two different goals (but the one doing it first did technically do it the fastest at one point).
@mangalores-x_x
@mangalores-x_x 13 жыл бұрын
I would even dare that there are big problems with the first firsts, too, because in many fields they actually aren't the first but just one instance in a continuous line of development. This is particular true for inventions and the supposedly breakthrough inventors. Most of the time those breakthroughs were simply the logical development of preexisting versions of the same thing and without those research by other people those revolutionary inventors wouldn't have managed their thing.
@Scipionyxsam
@Scipionyxsam 11 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I can't watch without a annoying proxxy server. I just found it funny because of the 'The first (of my) rants with no copyrighted music!' description. The GEMA is a infamous German institution.
@bemusedalligator
@bemusedalligator 7 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion about being things like the youngest to do something?
@benlamborn5792
@benlamborn5792 6 жыл бұрын
I was hoping this video would be about things like the Gutenberg printing press not being the first the Chinese invented one I honestly don't remember when. But it was earlier. Sure they found it to be unusual with the Chinese language but it existed. Europeans also store credit for the waterbase clock from Chinese Columbus store credit for discovering America from the Vikings etc.
@GrrrIamMad
@GrrrIamMad 12 жыл бұрын
You would hate the CN Tower in Canada, it lost the title for "World's Tallest Building" so they keep changing it to things like "Tallest Freestanding Structure" or "Tallest Tower", just so it can be tallest something.
@elgostine
@elgostine 13 жыл бұрын
@lindybeige to counter that im reminded of a description of, i think the first woman to take an exam at a prestigous medical school. she was confronted by a pack of hollering, many of them drunk males trying to prevent her from taking the exam. apparently only a concerted effort using hokey sticks to part the crowd, could she enter the exam hall. the whole book addressed statutory and institutional sexism i britain, one example was, that a women could not be legally select for public office.
@Gothtecdotcom
@Gothtecdotcom 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Brain Blessed the first OAP to climb Everest?
@SprocketWatchclock
@SprocketWatchclock 11 жыл бұрын
More than often the recognized first isn't actually the actual first, but just the first person to exploit and market the thing.
@JustAwesome360
@JustAwesome360 3 жыл бұрын
I'm the first person with the exact physical characteristics of myself to make a KZbin comment on a video with the exact characteristics of this.
@stoutyyyy
@stoutyyyy 7 жыл бұрын
Well, at least 4 more years for a woman, barring some massive catastrophe in which the entire line of succession is wiped out
@OchitheWarloch
@OchitheWarloch 8 жыл бұрын
I suppose the same can be said about Scott reaching the south pole, Norway ftw!
@HaoSci
@HaoSci 6 жыл бұрын
**I don't really care who's the first to do something. As far as I'm concerned, unless he single-handed achieved something that others didn't even dream of, they are really irrelevant. Every person stands on the shoulders of others. Sometimes, it's just a matter of time that someone will get there first, and someone has to be the first, but it doesn't mean he has contributed a lot to humanity. He could just be lucky that he's the first, not the second.**
@Contarai
@Contarai 12 жыл бұрын
someday, I plan to be the first non-first person who wasn't the second at something.
@benjamindaughenbaugh1453
@benjamindaughenbaugh1453 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I’m just sitting here watching this in my car and I realized this dude did this shit when I was dammed 11
@benjamindaughenbaugh1453
@benjamindaughenbaugh1453 3 жыл бұрын
And he is still doing it I love this guys videos
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 5 жыл бұрын
Should we remember lasts? Last Emperor of China, last man to walk on the Moon. (Not the same person, btw)
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