Forging a Sword - part two: fuller, bevels, straightening

[@Badatname]

The guy teaching him is so patient and seems like a pretty good teacher

[@MasonBryant]

Joseph Bean he does, the last bloke was a nutter to say the least.

[@d-drizzle]

@@MasonBryant there was another one

[@joelcheetham1152]

@@MasonBryant Elaborate if you can remember?

[@TheOldBlackShuckyDog]

Jolly good

[@csernobillahun]

No wonder people used axes and spears in the early medieval, swords are just a pain in the ass.

[@lomax343]

Particularly if you're stabbed by one...

[@chrisofnottingham]

Indeed. And in battle, no match for a spear anyway.

[@MrDUneven]

Also explains why swords became some kind of symbol of status. It needs little more metal than spear or axe but also more skill to get yourself a useful and proper stabby-cutty-killing-stick.

[@fattiger6957]

Spears and axes had other uses other than being weapons. You could cut wood with an axe and hunt with a spear. Swords are 100% made for fighting. (you could try to use a sword in those ways, but it would suck and you wouldn't want to mess up the blade)

[@comediangj4955]

Fat Tiger battle axes and tool axes are very different.

[@hamzak2181]

When are you building a tank?

[@lindybeige]

As soon as I've got somewhere to put one.

[@hamzak2181]

YeOldeScience Yeah Size of the tank doesn't matter. Its the motion of the torsion that does...

[@lebelge7168]

Just park it in the street...

[@reignorshine.]

No a sword to defeat one .. a katana

[@annasstorybox7906]

Le Belge yep...even if all parking lots are blocked you can still park on them with a tank...

[@rahzark]

When using a power hammer, you must be very careful not to make a fuller of yourself

[@crashmancer]

It's fascinating to watch this through the experience of a learner - much more educational and memorable than a "how it's made" style documentary. But as an engineer, watching all this has made me realize just how much of a revolution machine tools were.

[@Rickenbacker69]

Yeah, seeing "how it's made" videos makes this seem sooo much easier, seeing someone of my own ability and body type do it really hammers home (ha!) how much harder it is than the experts make it look.

[@headrockbeats]

Thumbs up for both the comment and the avatar.

[@brianwyters2150]

Check out a channel called "How to Make Everything"

[@Sockem1223]

@@headrockbeats not one, but TWO SCII fans in the wild. Amazing

[@CTCTraining1]

Well done Lloyd ... I counted your fingers at the start and end of the video and you seem to be intact :-)

[@lindybeige]

Just a few 'scale kisses'.

[@tiggytheimpaler5483]

lol, still having all your digits left when your that new to this line of work is a miracle. how's your hearing now?

[@fsmoura]

It might be easier if before hammering you take off the _+3 ring of limp-wristedness._

[@VileCAESARB]

@Patrick Ancona Fred was a Brit???

[@lostyogi8712]

Its so stressful watching Lindybeige use tools.

[@The_Gallowglass]

To be honest he could be fucking it up way worse. Not bad for his first time. He's also the luxury of an actual smith's workshop. When I started out all I had was a bit of railroad tie, hibachi grill forge, with hairdryer blower, and at one point my father bought me a 55 lb harbor freight el cheapo anvil. I loved it all though.

[@ironpirate8]

Nobody was born with a hammer in their hand.

[@The_Gallowglass]

Lies! :D

[@taeneribladestorm4731]

Thor?

[@JyrralVonUeberwald]

We all have to start somewhere.

[@doubleaja3415]

Thank goodness I’m up at 4 in the morning, otherwise I may not have seen it right away.

[@jakistam1000]

I'm watching it 8 months after it got released, yet just like you, I'm still watching at 4 in the morning :D

[@cykablyat5611]

Me too brother after one year at 4 am

[@coryman125]

I once made a wooden sword, and I'm ashamed to admit, I ground the bevels rather than hammering them.

[@Adagamante]

Shame on you! :V

[@MawoDuffer]

Too many people underestimate how hard it is to grind straight Really I just wouldn’t want to waste metal

[@abelbabel8484]

If you think grinding metal is difficult, try forging wood.

[@randytubbs1460]

@@abelbabel8484 Have you ever heard of particle board? Or maybe manufactured wood? Or even laminate? I think you are severely underestimating the forgeability of wood...

[@abelbabel8484]

Randy Tubbsn That's not forging, that's sintering. Very cool and versatile process, too, but different. ;)

[@Antigonus.]

First it was 'pick your own strawberries', then 'scan your own grocery shopping', now 'forge your own sword'. When the prostitution industry gets hit with this trend it is going to be really aggravating.

[@lomax343]

In my teenage years I, ahem, did it for myself rather a lot...

[@Omni-kyun]

But at least you had a teacher. Right?

[@lomax343]

Er no, I took matters into my own hands, as it were.

[@jamesharding3459]

lomax343 Someone get him a girlfriend.

[@andypanda4927]

That why we call it manual operation?

[@Eliphas_Leary]

Arnander? Really? It should obviously be named LINDYBLADE.

[@Robin0Blackett]

I was expecting something like THE FRENCH-SLAYER.

[@BobOgden1]

Gallica ex banum

[@Malovane77]

Escargotohell

[@alt-bringer5198]

what, not BEIGE-caliber?

[@BobOgden1]

Hammer of Frogs

[@PersephonevanderWaard]

Crom is pleased.

[@sodadrinker89]

To hell with Crom!

[@timward3091]

The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair

[@captainpicard2678]

Tim Ward WRONG!

[@captainpicard2678]

pottman 101 only if he does not listen,

[@MIKEDUDE197]

Crom laughs at your four winds

[@rexmcstiller4675]

My respect. The most guys just grind in the fuller.

[@therealDannyVasquez]

10:11 That bacon sandwich looks amazing.

[@lindybeige]

It was flipping marvellous.

[@Arthur_CNW]

As a smith who also loves what you do with your channel, this is a massive pleasure to watch ^_^ You go man!

[@BakerMikeRomeo]

I really enjoy that you're willing to capture yourself messing up a certain thing over and over again, and I don't mean that as a backhanded compliment - learning to do anything surely involves getting it wrong over and over and over and over and over again, and showing yourself sticking with it through lots of little hiccups and setbacks I think is both very humanizing and also very valuable for viewers. Thanks, Lloyd!

[@KelsomaticPDX]

The shot at 9:35 made me feel a kind of cozy satisfaction that I have no business feeling inside a metalworking shop.

[@Thatoneblackguy258]

Thom is an amazingly patient tutor!

[@Uhlbelk]

This reminds me of every skilled artist. Surgeon, blacksmith, sculptor, weaver. When you start your motions are hesitant and weak because you don't know how the material will respond in your hand. As you repeat the same movements with the same materials you quickly learn how much the metal will move with x amount of strength in the hammer swing., or how much resistance the flesh has to the suture, or how the threads will pull the fabric. Lindy would make a fine blacksmith if he kept at it.

[@aaa72317]

The sped up sections are incredibly satisfying to watch and ear.

[@4hedgesfamily]

I enjoyed how you said "at one point it turned into a sword." With every blade I've ever made, it seems to be just a chunk of metal (or wood, if I'm making wasters), and at some point it seems to realize what it's supposed to be. Something about the way it feels alive when you wield it, and how everything goes smoother as you shape it. It's might sound hokey to some, but I know exactly what you mean.

[@user-ns3vs3bp3e]

10:12 now that is a proper sandwich

[@daveh3997]

A real Barbarian Bacon Butty

[@sandwich2473]

Indeed.

[@GrayNeko]

Yes, yes that is. ^_^

[@TheTaterTotP80]

We should stop eating meat, though. Vegan bacon is actually really nice.

[@KickyFut]

Please leave! Bacon should never be in the same sentence as that other word. Your not allowed to call it that. If you don't want to eat a particular food item, why are you trying to imitate it with some abomination and slap vegan on it? Moderation is the key to diet, *anything* to excess is too far.

[@thifmaster1466]

I see that lindybeige is so happy It alweys puts a smile on my face

[@micahphilson]

It's great that making your own sword is doable as a completely inexperienced not even apprentice! I would have loved if Lindy could also make his armor himself, but... yeah, there's no way that would have turned out great without another 20 years of experience!

[@MrNateenochs]

Well it's 4am.. I should probably go to....New Lindybeige? Sleep can wait.

[@vcr53wus]

if you are up at 4 am, you already screwed up. Might as well.

[@bearnicholas3830]

this kind of craftsmanship can take years.........many blades, much striking of the steel, experience. There is no substitute

[@kayraaa2646]

Next Up: Luty 9mm SMG Next-Next Up: Prison Vlog, Vol.1

[@bearnicholas3830]

Thank goodness for a seasoned blacksmith to guide you!!!

[@superdave54811]

I love the fact that they spoke of the people that grind a bevel into a knife/sword. There are so many videos out there with so called blacksmiths that are using an angle grinder and would argue the point that they are skilled. It is a cheat that the unskilled use, plain and simple. It takes skill to use a hammer and anvil to make a blade properly. Besides, it compresses the steel making it harder and able to hold an edge better, overall making a better blade.

[@yurigagarin3327]

It's nice that a channel like yours is so big. It gives me back my hope into humanity

[@DaBezzzz]

Who else is hyped for Arnander 3: The Great Quench?

[@torianholt2752]

I wonder if tempering will be part 4?

[@Hellwinofficial]

Sounds like a porno.

[@alexlawson4173]

Does it really?

[@gilbertotoledo1421]

Rickard Öberg The Great Wench?

[@matthewlewis-fallows6263]

I am loving this so far. Showing your learning experience is bold and helps the magic of blacksmiths, armourers and basiers live on. Drawing down became obsessive for me, then adding a twist, feeling the metal crystals give way to the heat of the forge and the intent of my mind and arms was so seductive I found it hard to leave the 18th century. If you do this again please hold your hammer towards the end of the handle and let the tool do the work.

[@stokesy887]

A fine gentleman like yourself is only complete with a suit of armour and a sword.

[@wouldhave4998]

Harry Ward Edgy.

[@MikeKye200]

Next, Lindy will need a horse and lance.

[@stokesy887]

MikeKye200 and then an Empire

[@amitabhakusari2304]

First makes a full plate armour, then makes his own sword, writes a graphic novel about a plucky conqueror. What's next? A Kickstarter for getting a tank? Oh Mon Dieu, Llyod Is Planning To Conquer The Whole World. Eventually.

[@namewarvergeben]

With the sword and armour, wouldn't the next steps be a horse and a castle?

[@IvoTichelaar]

Steam-powered mechanised horse, castle with domotics...

[@amitabhakusari2304]

Well, but can you have too much armour?

[@ashleyteece4237]

Not the whole world, just France

[@Warmaka]

Or France at least.

[@davidvanau3182]

What happens in Glastonbury stays in Glastonbury.

[@lindybeige]

Really? Thank goodness for that.

[@fsmoura]

Pronounced _"Glasbury"_

[@lomax343]

10:12 - I trust the bacon was cooked on the forge?

[@Cov1ngtonsGhOst]

lomax343 "Lighting up the box for your bacon, Lloyd."

[@bestsport9044]

I must say, I really enjoy a lot your content, most probably because of your humor and vocabulary, it's amazing! I found out about you on a forum for the game Imperator: Rome, in a discussion about horse archers and there a guy posted the link to your horse archer video which got me interested in your channel. The more I watched the more I started liking you! Soon I'll introduce my friends to this pearl of a channel :) cheers mate, keep this amazing work up! Greetings from Serbia!

[@woodslore8537]

Somewhere a Frenchmen is nervous each time the hammer falls.

[@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447]

I'll get the staff ready for striking.

[@Aramis419]

I have been waiting for this with as much enthusiasm as one has when waiting for a package to be delivered!

[@toysintheattic2664]

I can’t wait till this is finished. Please don’t give up!

[@QwertySpaceOfficial]

This series got me into blacksmithing. I'm starting a course in January!

[@Chief2Moon]

I've watched the 1st of this series, & will watch the completion of the sword...then watch Lindy's video about his suit of armor. Having blacksmith friends, I find metalwork interesting.

[@nickverbree]

Fellow blacksmith chiming in here: next time you give forging a try, consider a wrist brace of some variety. You hammer hand has a lot of wobble, which is perfectly natural for beginners, but can be helped as you grow stronger by using a brace of some variety, either a traditional leather one or a modern athletic brace. Not a permanent solution, but can make your first few sessions a little more comfortable and helps to force you swing from the shoulder. Good on you and thanks for putting out the awesome content.

[@redgrif51]

Thoroughly enjoying watching your progress. Thank you for taking us along on the journey.

[@LordSolfan]

I just loved the view of the cup of tea/coffee steaming away atop the anvil!

[@HalcyonVoid]

That guy seems like a great teacher. I wish I lived somewhere near someone that teaches blacksmithing. Id love to make a sword.

[@bizzlebazzle280]

That blacksmith is a beast of a young man, the mans forearms have forearms.

[@andrewplantgollum8689]

i love the music Excalibur! the greatest medieval fantasy film of all time!!!!

[@Wolf-Rayet_Arthur]

I've been what some might call, binging on Lindybeige videos since about 6 days ago when I first discovered the channel. I can quite safely say that my usual reaction to watching KZbin content creators do their thing is, "I could do something like that" - and that isn't to say I am dismissing the talent and dedication that is required. Lindybeige is the first KZbinr of whom I've thought "I want to BE that KZbinr". I can only thank the right honourable Mr Beige that he is such a good role model, so that my wanting to be him (lol) isn't a negative aspiration in any sense.

[@froschkenig]

When I first noticed Lindys videos on forging, I was not sure, if this would be interesting to watch. But I gotta say, I really enjoyed it.

[@thomaswilkinson3241]

I can't wait to see it finished. Wonderful process so far.

[@kutamsterdam]

Great Loyd!...you´re a man of many talents and quiet strong i must say, this sword making is heavy labor, love your vids man!.

[@TheTaterTotP80]

At 8:17 Lindy looks like a little kid watching his dad work in awe.

[@WilliamHunterII]

This is nerve wracking watching you, Lloyd. Thom has the patience of Job. Nice power hammer.

[@PaulDeFitter]

The quench ! what a nightmare, when I was an apprentice we made pipe wrenches, A nice lump of steel about 10mm (3/8") thick, After lots of drilling, chiseling, filing, Etc. we baked them in carbon for about an hour to case harden them, then the teacher showed us how to quench them without mucking them up, he had my wrench, glowing red hot, over the bucket of water "now lads you have to plunge it in nice and straight , ooops "he let it slip from the tongs & it landed in the water at a 45 deg angle, it came out bent like a banana :(Start again.

[@Just_lift_anyone]

This sword making shannanagins makes for excellent watching, love it! Reminds me of some old school TV programmes (back when TV was original and interesting that is..)

[@gianlucaborg195]

Our own sort of Forged in Fire, potential, competitor.... HURRAH! keep it up mate!

[@boedhaspeaks]

Finally ! I waited centuries for this. Nice to see your quest to get a sword.

[@lordofgraphite]

this is an awesome series, cant wait for the next one!

[@SirSkroop]

Glad to see it coming along nicely, can't wait till it's finished!

[@Raikiir]

I love this little video series. Making my own Sword is a dream for my too, so I am kind of living it vicariously through you^^

[@wierdalien1]

Been waiting for this

[@mrcombine7983]

Dude the both of you are very patient

[@mYOwngUn]

How can this smithing teacher not get crazy with this guy?!

[@ambieofilms]

That guy's forearms are huge! He must be crazy strong

[@lindybeige]

I don't know if I've ever seen thicker wrists.

[@MikeKye200]

When I see the smith, I imagine him in medieval armour, wielding a bastard sword. People had bigger muscles back then.

[@duffman18]

@@MikeKye200 training for size is different to training for strength. These blacksmiths back then were a lot smaller than modern bodybuilders, but also a lot stronger than modern bodybuilders. Just like how today's powerlifters are smaller than today's bodybuilders. Training for size is just a different thing. You can be relatively small and much stronger than someone with "more" muscles. A lot of it is what you eat, too. Bodybuilders eat an insane amount of protein, for no reason other than aesthetics.

[@terrortorn]

10 points for the 70's style font of the introductory text. kinda reminded me of the Goodies.

[@lindybeige]

That fount is a very specific fount, used for a very specific reason. Also the music.

[@terrortorn]

You are celebrating the time between Fab lollies and the rise of Evel Knievel where there was a time of saucy birds and penny chews and into this Lindybeige was born.

[@lordcarve]

@terrortorn he is doing homage to Excalibur (1981) opening... legendary film

[@terrortorn]

I thought it was a Goodies/Conan combo as the font used for the name of the sword in LB's opening, music too for that matter, and the music/lettering of "Conan" in opening of that film are pretty similar.

[@ethankapolis]

Beautiful and strong name, can't wait to hear you elaborate on it.

[@reignorshine.]

I really like the sword series the armor making series is awesome as well, you are lucky to have a patient teacher , don't feel bad if I were in your world and I started doing people's taxes I would muck it all up

[@snag710]

a good tip is to always hold the hammer with your hand further back because it gives you so much more power for so much less effort but the trade off is you need to practice your aim with your blows because it is harder to control where the hammer head ends up

[@Tt6zrerzzgu778]

I am forging a sword rn and the videos are actually really helpful!

[@aldor9357]

Who cares about the fuller anyway? The most important part is indeed a pommel

[@Roset595]

Everyone knows you don't End him Rightly with the fuller.

[@pyotrilyichtchaikovsky3733]

It actually is cuzz of counterweight

[@indoorsandout3022]

If you need the pommel to be a bit heavier you can always make it out of a cupronickel mokume-gane.

[@Szederp]

Good ol' Excalibur. Still the best Excalibur movie to this day.

[@detrage5483]

"Overall this may look to you, dear viewers, decently straight." Quite so, it's just a few handsome sweaty guys pounding away in a smithy.

[@PTNLemay]

These are fun. Please continue and conclude.

[@Opaheke1]

Thom doesn't have forearms, he has tree trunks!! Oh, and the boyish look of glee on Lindybeige's face at the end was priceless.

[@captainkirk400]

Arnander....a fine name for a good sword, especially one made by your own hand.

[@las10plagas]

I really wish I could do this one day. not interested in having a sword but smithing looks so pleasing

[@AClown]

This series is fantastic!

[@Diluted37]

Lindy: How is it? Blacksmith: Jolly good! (In his head) This guy sucks

[@dan_fantastic9353]

It brings me so much joy to know that I'm not the only person in the universe that uses the word Wonky!

[@Alvarin_IL]

If it was not for the heat and the noise I would want to try my hand at forging too, probably... Looking great, Lloyd!

[@daanwilmer]

You can have ear protection, you know.

[@kezran4976]

Living in comfort is boring

[@seanjoseph8637]

The movies make it look so easy!

[@britskaradiometeorograph8108]

Love that piece of music you chose to announce the name/moments of despair 😂 The twelve rising/falling triplets sound very ominous to the backdrop of Glastonbury

[@daanwilmer]

Does anyone know the name of that music?

[@lomax343]

@ Daan Wilmer - Siegfried's death and funeral march, from Wagner's Gotterdammerung. Used in the film Excalibur.

[@gordonlawrence4749]

It's also been used in Jabberwocky I think so I kept thinking there was something pythonesque about to happen. I know technically Jabberwocky was not Python but it still had a good deal of the team plus some of other superb comedians.

[@Malovane77]

And to add - if you haven't seen Excalibur, you really really should.

[@jacobs9083]

Prepper Jack also, if you haven't watched der Ring des Nibelungen you really should

[@mrscary3105]

Not seen you in a bit, glad to have you return.

[@brianwyters2150]

Thank you for ending the cliff hanger!

[@Edgunsuk]

Ahhhh ive spoken to the blacksmith in Glastonbury , was going to go there for something in 2013 / 2014 think it was as a journeyman smith at the time i forget.

[@Veilingmeat]

That Intro is phacking genius!

[@jod125]

12:55 Lloyd does have a very David Attenborough-esque calming voice

[@t4404]

guy at 8:59 is the coolest man alive

[@thecutandthrust6742]

finally someone agrees

[@TheEyez187]

7:53 - What!! How dare the expert be more expert than our Lloyd!?! :D I guess naming it beforehand you might become attached and work better on it!?! The difference between working on Anander and simply making a bastard; it's more loving I guess!! :D

[@numbers9to0]

Thank you for explaining the part 1 / part 2 thing. Stuff in two parts always confused me. And there was no way to figure out what it meant. Until today.

[@PaulMclauchlin]

I was waiting for "Tom did this bit". I was not at all surprised when I heard words to that effect.

[@BH-rx3ue]

forging in a fuller!? thats rare to see nowadays, everyone seems to want to grind them in. Im pretty sure that forging it in has more benefits other than just simply making the blade wider with less material as one would expect it maintains the granular structure of the steel opposed to grinding it which breaks those grains. *shrugs* tis but a theory

[@MikeKye200]

Makes sense: more hammering the steel, more folding it into itself, should make it stronger.

[@drewmandan]

Indeed, if grinding in a fuller did no harm, then why couldn't you just grind/cut out the entire sword from a block of steel? Well, I suppose some mass produced knives are just that. And they suck.

[@BH-rx3ue]

exactly, obs back in "ye olde days" they couldnt do that due to tooling and material limitation but nowadays, if there is no benefit to forging a shape, why not just grind it completely in the shape? there has to be something about forging that provides additional strengths over grinding. as i said, steel is a granular structure. surely it is better to bend that structure opposed to cut through it

[@Sareth94]

I think the whole 'intact steel grain' is a bit overrated, considering that I'm pretty sure the grain completely reforms during hardening anyway... You have to cross the ferrite / austenite line for hardening to work, and at that point the grain structure is basically normalized and as new. I'd guess grinding is just a industrial shortcut, whereas in medieval times, grinders and files were either hand- or water-powered (i.e. quite slow). A good smith with some apprentices could probably hammer out the rough-shape the fuller much faster, too shorten the time spent grinding your precious steel.

[@Nikarus2370]

"as one would expect it maintains the granular structure of the steel" "more hammering the steel, more folding it into itself, should make it stronger. " Any benefits of work hardening the blade while forging like this go out the window the minute you get it up to heat treat temperature. Why? Because the steel goes through a literal phase change. Its like ice melting into water, and then being frozen back. Any crystal structure is blown away. You can even see this if you look around for metallography. Take the same bit of steel, cut it into 3 chunks. Heat treat 1, temper the other, keep 1 as a control. Etch it with a bit of sulphuric acid (so you can see the structure better), and look at them under the microscope. It's amazing how glaringly different the grain structure of the same piece of metal is after heat treat. As far as folding. Folding only accomplishes anything if you're mixing 2 or more different types of steel, and folding them to make it more homogeneous. This sword is already homogeneous, so folding would not only be a waste of time, but it would also run the risk of introducing impurities into the steel. "Indeed, if grinding in a fuller did no harm, then why couldn't you just grind/cut out the entire sword from a block of steel? " Because back in the day, steel people had to work with didn't come in uniform flat bars cheaply, and grinding was a slow process. "Well, I suppose some mass produced knives are just that. And they suck." I'd love to see some evidence for why a ground and heat treated knife has any functional deficiency to a forged one. "there has to be something about forging that provides additional strengths over grinding. as i said, steel is a granular structure. surely it is better to bend that structure opposed to cut through it" Again, the minute you get above austenizing temperature and the structure shifts from body centered cubic to face centered cubic, any structure given by forging is gone.

[@-1subswithoutuploadingavid621]

Is this how the Knights of Shadiversity are going to get their equipment,

[@_DarkEmperor]

No, they design it in sketchup and print it in 3d printer.

[@KainusGulch]

And prototype it in wood, so they can have practice pieces and hang delicately varnished extras up on the walls of their man caves.

[@nahhooh]

@@_DarkEmperor It's rare that a comment makes me happy, but this one did

[@plaidpvcpipe3792]

No, this is how the even mightier Knights of Beige will!

[@lostmarimo]

The patience of this blacksmith.

[@LandscapeAhoy129]

8:25 The face Lindy made kills me man.

[@PilotTed]

If you want to make you blade very strong, you can do both quenching in oil, the standard procedure, and tempering it. However, don't make it too hard or it will become brittle.

[@verpalorian310]

0:09 "Click on the link in the description to watch Part One" Here is the link that was supposed to be linked but isn't: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYrclYmQh8efbK8

[@Marcus_563]

Well done. I am impressed.