Correction at 7:06: The 4060 delivers 24% less raster performance per dollar, and 20% less ray tracing performance per dollar than the B580- not 32% and 25% less, respectively. There's also some other nuances with regard to the percentages that we will fix. We will update the video as soon as possible.
@420kurama16 сағат бұрын
Did you guys prove this or did you just read someones comment then put this up right away 😂😂😂
@TanninZero16 сағат бұрын
You ran straight into their trap. ;)
@Paneer-pv2sk16 сағат бұрын
ty ltt epic as always
@jaggxd12316 сағат бұрын
@@LinusTechTips raster?
@dark_wolf01716 сағат бұрын
@@420kuramathe numbers on the graph in this video show a 24% decrease in performance for the 4060 when compared to the arc b580 and same for the ray tracing
@Justakatto19 сағат бұрын
That indeed was the worst segue ever.
@jogys765219 сағат бұрын
Best*
@lucasrem18 сағат бұрын
Here please...
@jared317418 сағат бұрын
@@Justakatto wondering is ridge is going to love it or hate it. Don't need another oura ring fiasco.
@eikbolha588318 сағат бұрын
@@Justakatto yeah bun intel must fall cuz they been agressive player for years in CPU market so i guess new AMD takes crown in CPU MARKET AND MAYBE Intel také crown in low to antry mid range GPU market and AMD TAKES pre per 1440p mid range Gpus and well nvidia again gonna bé on the top with 5090 and rest products are gonna bé again just up sell and more expensive than comoetitions but less good just Like Rtx 4060 Rtx 4060ti or Rtx 4070 vanila i guessing the 50 series gonna bé again same but maybe we will see more agressive approach from Jensen and they drop prices but most likelly nope nvidia lkke money but they hate when they lose them so i think they figures out something Like higher end gpus are for profesionals just Like they dit with 4090 and 5090 bé samé but just dont be suprised when nvidia say the Rtx 5070ti and up all gpus are gonna be for profesionals lmao that would bé crazy kick to balls hahah.
@CreativeMindsAudio18 сағат бұрын
“It’ll be the worst year for intel, like our worst segue to our sponsor”
@SuperSmashDolls13 сағат бұрын
2017: The best budget gaming rig is an Intel CPU with an AMD GPU 2024: The best budget gaming rig is an AMD CPU with an Intel GPU
@brolfe6911 сағат бұрын
how the turn tables
@The-subtle-ostrich11 сағат бұрын
The tables have been adequately rotated
@ROARROARROAR-w7x11 сағат бұрын
They talk to each other for more $$$$$$$$$$$$
@Blackfatrat11 сағат бұрын
Eh that isn't really true. Intel has mostly lost in the top end. An i3 12100, 13100 or 14100 are basically unbeaten in gaming in terms of price. A 12400f also kills in that regards. AMD mostly wins on the higher end x3D chips but they arent really budget.
@Starbuilder511 сағат бұрын
@@Blackfatrat that is technically true but when you take into account that you have to upgrade intel motherboards every 2-3 gens, then it's more expensive in the long run. Am4 lasted from 2016-2024. A whole 8 years.
@thegamepadguru672318 сағат бұрын
If Intel can get the drivers in check and pricing to disrupt the market like AMD did for the RX480, Battlemage could a budget PC gamers dream.
@lucasrem18 сағат бұрын
ARC Api is supported now, why should gamers only buy 4060 cards or AMD alternatives only...?
@AffectionateLocomotive18 сағат бұрын
idk man. i need a dollar.
@ninjason5718 сағат бұрын
@@lucasrem nvidia has DLSS 🤷♂️
@licksludgee18 сағат бұрын
@@ninjason57 not everyone cares for DLSS. I'm an old school quake gamer, and nothing frustrates me more than fake frames and fake resolution resulting in latency. I still live by doubling your high refresh rate with your fps to minimise input lag. For 1080p gamers, a budget option like this could be great....if you don't care about DLSS like me
@eggtarts28618 сағат бұрын
Yes please. I want something better than team red and team green and I'm quite tired of Nvidia cutting hardware down and using dlss as a hardware crutch rather than a booster. ...not that I'm keeping my hopes up. But dammit Intel, Celestial is a great name. Don't you kill your Arc before then!
@faresmahmoud-nx2pg15 сағат бұрын
Although I'm an AMD fan, I don't want to see Intel going in the dust, as competition is always a win for the end user.
@dataanalystbynight437514 сағат бұрын
Yeah my worst nightmare is AMD becoming careless, non innovative monstrosity intel is. We need intel to exist solely to move the market forward. Hopefully they can turn it around but it ain’t looking good over there. They can’t find their ass from a hole in the ground.
@dennissdigitaldump861910 сағат бұрын
I'm not too worried, I was until I realized they still have an ARM license and are ramping up uh, er "other category" chips. AMD has oddly become more monolithic than Intel in many ways, which caused Intels earlier decline.
@tonymante87595 сағат бұрын
@@dataanalystbynight4375 intel is a goverment asset and will never go under plus teh fact its building foundrys in america that will operate in 2028 intel has a very exciting future just not in the near term. they will become the defacto cpu maker again in 3-4 generations. Due to all that goverment money coming in
@thelionprince45303 сағат бұрын
Consumers should NEVER be a fan of corporations.....your only loyalty should be to products which offer the best value for your money.
@ShiroCh_ID2 сағат бұрын
@@dennissdigitaldump8619 yeah, but losing 1 company that litterally start up this whole x86 architecture and be only monopilized with 1 company(AMD) doesnt sounds good hopefully its something that AMD hapens to have back in 2014 era before Ryzen(aka intel finds its own "Ryzen" that wont dominate market but keep AMD in check, im afraid AMD became Sandy bridge era intel with intel decline)
@DaBigCheeso13 сағат бұрын
Intel realized there's a lot of gamers that want good cards but don't want to spend the same price as a handheld PC for them. I'm all for the sub $300 card making a comeback
@veilmontTV10 сағат бұрын
@@DaBigCheeso puts pressure on the used market. Its good all around
@billbixby77889 сағат бұрын
A $300 that's good would be amazing but I'm not convinced
@jamesbyrd37408 сағат бұрын
Do you people actually believe this stuff? Intel's "targeting" the low-midrange, because their gpus aren't good enough to do anything else. Same reason AMD isn't competing in the high end this upcoming generation. It's not some noble sacrifice, because they really really care.
@billbixby77887 сағат бұрын
@jamesbyrd3740 ok buddy some of us are upgrading from a 2080 or a 3060 or whatever... Holding back what I want to call you!!! Lol
@DaBigCheeso7 сағат бұрын
@@jamesbyrd3740 it's a pretty effective marketing strategy, target the customers that the big two aren't. It's Intel, they make chips. If they wanted more powerful GPUs they'd build them
@thedoctajon18 сағат бұрын
"in a nutshell, you'll find nuts" LINUS IT'S TOO EARLY FOR THIS
@berkdikmen9518 сағат бұрын
I mean he already has 3 kids..
@tiagojsag17 сағат бұрын
I had to pause the video to recover from that one
@AMalas17 сағат бұрын
And its done by the editor, ytp style!
@Metal_Maxine16 сағат бұрын
@@AMalas It's Pelle, he went away for a bit, but his editing has always been a little like that
@piereligio_ds16 сағат бұрын
It's December tho
@mrfleagal18 сағат бұрын
Not the subtle foreshadowing segue 💀
@AffectionateLocomotive18 сағат бұрын
💀
@DJProPlusMax17 сағат бұрын
💀
@steverandle470017 сағат бұрын
💀
@wizzerrdd17 сағат бұрын
💀
@LeBruNoID16 сағат бұрын
💀
@SquintyGears14 сағат бұрын
Pot of greed is a banned card. You're going straight to the shadow realm for playing it linus
@Spartan-5516 сағат бұрын
also only 2 segues not 3
@n.henzler502 сағат бұрын
At least we finally know what it does.
@Quizack10 сағат бұрын
The colour grading on this video feels so nice. It’s warm and soft. Just really chill. I like it. Please give the colour grader a slap on the back and a “good job, mate” in an Australian accent.
@QuarzenZechenSoehne56 минут бұрын
I feel like its worse than usual. Big chroma noise and I feel like there were some hue vs sat changes made especially to his face. Not 100% sure.
@BenMagargee35 минут бұрын
Could also be since this was filmed on Colin and Samir's set as mentioned in a recent community post.
@JellyLancelot18 сағат бұрын
Gelsinger got handed the worst hand possible. Staring down at a company that had been gutted by penny pushers and greedy shareholders only looking at next quarters returns. Intel deserves to be humbled, they were complacent for a good decade where they just kept releasing the same thing over and over until AMD caught them napping. But seeing them slip this far, its not even a competition with AMD anymore, they can't even compete with themselves, ouch. We need competition.
@ivonakis17 сағат бұрын
We will know if he was at the right path ... 2 years from now.
@michaelhut168615 сағат бұрын
TMC is who they were fighting not AMD
@ainlLeek15 сағат бұрын
I know it will likely never happen (for legal reasons), but imagine: AMD buys Intel.
@PaulsTechSpace15 сағат бұрын
@@JellyLancelot Forcing out Pat was ultimately disrespectful, he deserves credit for what he did for the company. Turning around a company that was neglected for almost 2 decades is not easy to fix. He needed more time. I was really rooting for intel to roar back with Pat but now I don’t care for the company anymore.
@MrSpiritmonger15 сағат бұрын
@@ivonakis IFS foundry will be spinned out as a separate entity in 2 years. It's built into the CHIPS ACT that they are allowed to do so.
@XGD5layer18 сағат бұрын
I wasn't going to upgrade but $249 is tempting, that's about the price point I got my GPUs ten years ago
@lucasrem18 сағат бұрын
Ati Wonder card you kept using ?
@AffectionateLocomotive18 сағат бұрын
ikr?
@blabla89618 сағат бұрын
you can also just trade 6 ltt pro hats for it
@TehPlayer1418 сағат бұрын
@@XGD5layer I got 750ti fror 200$ ish when it launched, I miss that
@averywellsand88818 сағат бұрын
Temping to upgrade the 1050ti in my server
@Nnnn8888818 сағат бұрын
At 07:17, it's not 25% less performance. Its 20% less performance. Adding 25 cents to a dollar is an increase of 25%. Taking them away again is only a 20% decrease. You also can't simply subtract the percentage difference (132-106=26) between the 7600/B580 at 06:35... that's not how it works. The increases are with reference to the baseline 4060.
@Joe-cm5kl18 сағат бұрын
LMG should hire an 8th grader to check their math for them.
@haukerikjacobsen358018 сағат бұрын
I honestly just mentally added the "points" at the end to validate it. 25% percentage points less
@samo928818 сағат бұрын
such a silly thing to try and nitpick
@bowlock990118 сағат бұрын
@@samo9288 No, no its not.
@olmsfam118 сағат бұрын
@@samo9288 Technically correct is the best kind of correct, especially on a tech channel :)
@codenamegama15 сағат бұрын
less than $250? dude I'm sold, I don't mind paying that much for a GPU
@levibull606310 сағат бұрын
Considering I got my rx6650xt for that price I'm gonna try keep an eye in this
@glow_amv7 сағат бұрын
@@levibull6063 can you give me your rx 6650xt once you finish using it
@FlightReactsFan9116 сағат бұрын
Dude just grab that $250, go to the casino and QUADRUPLE your money and buy yourself a 3080ti🤑📈🔥🔥
@suspcs9343 сағат бұрын
@@FlightReactsFan911 winners mindset 🤑🤑🤑
@ilbro78742 сағат бұрын
@@FlightReactsFan911hol up, what about a 4080 super, caught you lackin son
@oliverkotalik301414 сағат бұрын
Been rocking my A770 for a while now, I could play anything at max setting at 1080 and now that I upgraded to a 1440, high refresh rate display.....it's still runs everything at high settings just fine, might not be getting my full 144fps but, it's it's ability to render videos with resolve makes me more then happy!
@veilmontTV10 сағат бұрын
Any games it won't play?
@avriloridove58329 сағат бұрын
@@veilmontTV AC7 is a stuttering mess even in tye hangar.
@lotto771026 сағат бұрын
@@veilmontTV Anything that runs UE4 but has a lot of extras on top of the engine can be pretty rough without DX12, and Elite Dangerous used to refuse to start on Arc but I haven't tested it in ages. Most games tend to need more delving through the settings to find an "ideal" setup than AMD or Nvidia cards though
@DreuScuhDoo19 сағат бұрын
Also edging the segue is CRAZY
@SteeleKallasmae18 сағат бұрын
Em What the Sigma.🤓
@AffectionateLocomotive18 сағат бұрын
fr
@sullenscr17 сағат бұрын
nah thats crazy
@420kurama16 сағат бұрын
u care more about the segue than the horrible data 😂😂
@jakubvantroba17 сағат бұрын
Who would think 10y ago that AMD would be the CPU king and Intel becoming a GPU company 😂😂
@PumpiPie14 сағат бұрын
Kinda sad :/
@Dreadpirateflappy14 сағат бұрын
@@PumpiPie This is what happens when big companies get complacent and assume they will stay on top even if they don't make any advances... Nvidia needs to watch out.
@iswm13 сағат бұрын
probably anyone who is old enough to remember AMD being the cpu king 10 years before 10 years ago.
@dgillies542013 сағат бұрын
AMD: I'll take the more profitable CPU business, please. Intel: No worries, I'm going after the much less-profitable GPU business, now!
@IcePhoenixOfTime13 сағат бұрын
Well if i remember right intel did test making gpus back then too so im not rven more with amd having being better than intel through the 2000s
@MkD_SENS19 сағат бұрын
the editor was really cooking with that sponsor segway
@aleksjenner67718 сағат бұрын
Surely you mean segue?
@cpmc540018 сағат бұрын
@@aleksjenner677 Surely you know they do
@lucasrem18 сағат бұрын
Here please .....
@AffectionateLocomotive18 сағат бұрын
idk
@orlagh27718 сағат бұрын
@@cpmc5400itz okei tu spel ikorektly if ze reeder knaus vat yu meen?
@Ichibuns13 сағат бұрын
How much did the CEO actually matter in this situation? He's not the one that told the engineers to make bad products. Kicking him out just seems like the board shoving away blame from their own cost saving measures that led to these issues.
@slunasaurusrex9 сағат бұрын
Yep. We're gonna get a replacement that further guts the company for a quick profit at the expense of long term viability again. They really didn't learn their lesson.
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@DisturbedNeo18 сағат бұрын
12GB of VRAM and that level of performance, for $249, is nuts. For the same price as a 4090, you could build an enclosure with multiple B580s in it, and it would probably have the combined VRAM and performance of an enterprise chip. For gaming and other realtime use cases, probably not worth doing, but for productivity, for video editing, for 3D renders, for AI training, that would be awesome.
@Demopans599017 сағат бұрын
Would be immensely funny if these new cards work on the Apple Pro.
@jojo_da_poe16 сағат бұрын
@@Demopans5990what is an "Apple Pro"?
@Daniel-dj7fh16 сағат бұрын
Yeah I paid like 450€ for my 12Gb RTX3060 at the plateau just before the prices actually completely dropped. But at least I got one of the faster 3060's, heard Nvidia started selling shart cards after that.
@Daniel-dj7fh16 сағат бұрын
@@jojo_da_poe The monitor
@realme410715 сағат бұрын
The A770 is even more insane: 16 GB of VRAM for 229 right now!
@Forke1316 сағат бұрын
Kicking out Pat Galsinger is such a classic incompetent board move
@JokingChickenn16 сағат бұрын
We want money now!!!
@Nobody-vr5nl16 сағат бұрын
Trust me, this lvl greed is very widespread. I see it all over the place. Ppl r drunk with instant gratification.
@Forke1316 сағат бұрын
@Nobody-vr5nl yes
@devin215615 сағат бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. He had a lot to turn around from the last incompetent guy so of course it was going to take a lot of time to fix.
@Aspen91015 сағат бұрын
As he said in our last company meeting, he was too optimistic. Constantly making claims he couldn’t make come true. This led to him having multiple layoffs, while enjoying a 45% raise. He cost my colleagues their jobs and didn’t care. I’m glad he’s gone.
@ohboyd18 сағат бұрын
Come on guys, you can't just subtract percentages. The figures for the Arc B580 and RX 7600 are in reference to the RTX 4060. Raster performance is less than 26% better than the RX 7600 and ray tracing is more than 37% better.
@gamerulrafihd5518 сағат бұрын
They picked the most hated card and tried to say we do not suck as much as them 😂
@DragonHuman0018 сағат бұрын
@@ohboyd flashback to the Gamers Nexus criticisms
@Adowrath18 сағат бұрын
@@DragonHuman00 Since when did LTT choose the 7600 and 4060 to compare cards to? Those are Intel charts - the only mistake LTT made is the wrong wording for the % difference. Grow up.
@Chrobin11118 сағат бұрын
They meant to say percentage points, I assume.
@catgirlconnoisseur102418 сағат бұрын
Yeah that hurt to watch. Tbf tho, the claims aren't important. Hopefully their maths is accurate in the benchmarks video
@creedofwar13 сағат бұрын
I went in on a A770 in part because of your shill hat video. I've been really happy with it and was late enough to avoid all the year one issues (other than automatic driver updates never working). Been eyeing the battlemage news for awhile as it was what I originally was waiting for but upgrades needed to happen. Hope they have a successor to the higher end of their cards coming soon.
@ForeverHobbit13 сағат бұрын
It's quite sad that they are competing with a card that is more expensive because there are no cheaper cards worth mentioning...
@LanceNotHiding17 сағат бұрын
I have an A380 in a SFF side rig. It handles itself nicely for a 75 watt card now since the drivers matured. The lower budget, and Low Profile market need continued support and happy to see Intel doing alright here.
@Daniel-dj7fh16 сағат бұрын
I like the way they look
@nbcosta5 сағат бұрын
Is it half height?
@khulhucthulhu995218 сағат бұрын
I'm angry at how the board of Intel just ousted Gelsinger like this... wtf guys
@SwirlingDragonMist18 сағат бұрын
Makes me wonder how long those board seats have been held, maybe they’re the consistent factor of intel’s struggles.
@AffectionateLocomotive18 сағат бұрын
what idomt get it.
@wta151818 сағат бұрын
@@SwirlingDragonMist What?? Noooo. That can't be it, it the customers fault! */S*
@BladeEXE6718 сағат бұрын
I am pretty sure he made enough money in those three years to be set for life lmao.
@general_GAS17 сағат бұрын
I think u missed the point @@BladeEXE67
@JohnWilliams-gy5yc18 сағат бұрын
Let's hope this launch prematurely cancels the 8GB 5060.
@steveweidig537313 сағат бұрын
You mean NVidia "unlaunching" another card? I very much doubt it, otherwise they wouldn't have a good way to upsell their GPU to the much more expensive 5070...
@rayskinner428914 сағат бұрын
Funny thing about those 4060 MSRP's. Every 4060 on NewEgg is over $319 except for one model.
@rebelsroguesco13 сағат бұрын
2:13 The fact that we’re framing the 4060 as a 1080p card in 2024 blows my mind. My GTX 970 was a “1080p card” ten years ago. I get the games have come a long way since then, but I know people still gaming on 1060s and it rarely has an issue at 1080p, save a few games like CP77. Based on user benchmarks, the 4060 outperforms the 1060 by 118%. Is the 4060 REALLY aimed at 1080p, because my gut tells me it’s a comfortable 1440p card all day.
@Lem_On_Lime13 сағат бұрын
With 8 GB of VRAM? Sadly narr.
@InfamousAMH12 сағат бұрын
It's because the standards of framerate and resolution have increased. People 10 years ago would have been ecstatic to get 60fps at 1080p. I know I was. Now I'm disappointed when my RTX 3070 doesn't get 165fps in 1440p.
@argvminusone10 сағат бұрын
@@InfamousAMH 10 years ago, I didn't even have a 1080p display. It was 1440×900 if I remember right. But I did expect 60fps.
@rodryguezzz10 сағат бұрын
Different types of games running at 1080p. The 1060 was slightly better than the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X and could run Ps4/Xone games at high 40-60fps 1080p. The 4060 and even the 3060 were aimed at next gen (current gen) PS5/Series X exclusives running at high/very high 60fps 1080p. These games run at 1080p 40fps low settings on a 1060.
@InfamousAMH10 сағат бұрын
@@argvminusone I had 900p also. I upgraded to a 1080p display finally in 2016.
@bfums16 сағат бұрын
I used 2 ARC 380’s in my Unraid server. One for transcoding and one for VM’s. For what I use them for, they’re unbeatable, especially since the 2 cards were only $100 each. Incredible budget cards
@visheshreddy429317 сағат бұрын
Please Intel! Let battlemage win! Nvidia cannot be allowed to take over the market anymore 😫
@Space97.9 сағат бұрын
we dont need a 3rd gpu company and we already got competition so intels not need, so you cant use that flimsy excuse so many others keep repeating
@jamesbyrd37407 сағат бұрын
the sad truth is they will take almost no market share from Nv. It's going to go from like 95% Nv, 5% AMD to 94.5% Nv, 4% AMD, 1.5% intel.
@DantesGrill4 сағат бұрын
Cautious because of the first gens driver issues. Hope you'll do another video on them and see how it's changed
@spoots123413 сағат бұрын
Sacking Pat was a bad move. But I understand the situation. He wasn't a good salesman. There's no rulebook that says a CEO needs to present product launches etc. But I'm also pretty sure they didn't spend any time to consider alternatives, like hiring a marketing exec, because sacking a CEO is the run of the mill expected knee jerk reaction of the times.
@NitrousXProductions17 сағат бұрын
0:27 another announcement Pat Gelsinger has stepped down as CEO of Intel. This is tragic, idk who would be best suited to replace Pat as he was one of the veterans intel engineers who came up through the ranks. Intel needs a miracle to stay in the game
@kravenfoxbodies247916 сағат бұрын
They will ask Elon Musk.
@yoshikinanami743416 сағат бұрын
@@kravenfoxbodies2479 Knowing Elon, he would probably fire everyone including the engineers, come up with a terrible naming scheme, then complain that the company is unable to do better.
@Emayeah15 сағат бұрын
@@kravenfoxbodies2479I hope not, he already screwed with twitter, I don't need no "xtel 42069x premium blue checkmark" CPU
@MrSpiritmonger15 сағат бұрын
IFS Foundry will spin out as separate entity. Private investors won't care about bleeding edge like 18A or 14A, just like Global Foundries abandoned 7nm. Intel Products will be highly lucrative as they can outsource to IFS and TSMC. Investors win, and "national security"? Nobody truly gives a shit about national security at end of day, that's just an pretext for (some) free cash.
@Dell-ol6hb14 сағат бұрын
@@kravenfoxbodies2479they’ll go bankrupt 😂
@Adroit191118 сағат бұрын
A mad Yu-Gi-Oh reference. Brovo
@Digital-_-Spirit18 сағат бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@thorjrgin932017 сағат бұрын
7:20 that is not how percentages work. The B580 delivers 32% more performance than the 4060, but that is not the same as what is said in the video. That number would be 100/132=0,758 which means that the 4060 has (1-0,758=) 24% less performance than the B580
@thorjrgin932017 сағат бұрын
For raster performance specifically. For the ray tracing at the right the number would be even lower(when said the way it is in the video)
@Winnetou1717 сағат бұрын
*performace per dollar. But everything else you wrote is correct. Happy to see many people pointing this out in the comments.
@jacobb-c794616 сағат бұрын
Must have meant percentage increase, writers probably rushed that one out lol.
@AshhhasfСағат бұрын
Percentages don't work like that linus, while 125 is 25% more than 100, 100 is only 20% less than 125. Smh, do the math right!
@TheOystei13 сағат бұрын
I'm really happy to see a second gen intel card coming out after so many were speculating that the first gen wasn't good enough for a follow up. Not sure i'm gonna upgrade just yet, 1080ti still hanging in there, but when i do (and i plan to go more towards that end of the price spectrum, i don't game nearly enough to justify high end gpu's anymore) i hope there is a compelling Intel offering to at least consider seriously.
@Marcus-jt2ff17 сағат бұрын
1:24 ok I giggled
@niemand12312 сағат бұрын
Me not
@gubs110211 сағат бұрын
I don’t think it was a glitch
@brink304518 сағат бұрын
7:15 Linus, that is not how percentage works unfortunately
@sam3555118 сағат бұрын
yes, what is the team of reviewer doing
@AdrianVM1918 сағат бұрын
@@sam35551 This is obviously a last-minute video that didn't have time to be as thoroughly checked. Things slip by sometimes, it's okay. The point still stands, whether the percentages he speculates about are completely accurate or not. It's just a matter of illustrating how the price-to-performance might be really good.
@tvs9999917 сағат бұрын
its not like the percentages Intel gave are 100% correct anyways. just a bit off is not that big of deal
@divinezmuz2 сағат бұрын
Yes it should be - costs 20% more while delivering 24.24% less raster performance per dollar.
@bcraftr19 сағат бұрын
1:03 i fr though my phone was lagging hard 😭
@tkplushies6 сағат бұрын
Sameee 💀💀💀
@GiddyPictures14 сағат бұрын
What's wrong with the video? Dim light and high iso and then noise reduction? It certainly doesn't look as good as the other videos.
@steinhose203214 сағат бұрын
Yes, there is also a certain weird red noise over the phone
@AltonV14 сағат бұрын
Likely it's a rushed video
@Thescreamingsheep0112 сағат бұрын
the video was likely rushed to spread the news faster then other channels
@psychoacer2 сағат бұрын
LTT's Blue sky account posted that the video wasn't recorded in house but at another KZbinrs studio
@spiv14 сағат бұрын
9:06 thats a banned move
@Kurriochi17 сағат бұрын
I know you guys read these - include some hardware encoding tests (HEVC & AV1) if you can please, they're very useful (for video people).
@Metal_Maxine16 сағат бұрын
I think it's a bit early in the day to start testing the cards, mostly since nobody will have them yet and if Intel doesn't feel like doing some encoding tests...
@jonathanjones775114 сағат бұрын
I agree. And maybe some compute focused tasks given Xe-2 has FP64 support. Given the compute characteristics of alchemist I don’t think Intel will nerf it like Nvidia does with GeForce
@zagikiza18 сағат бұрын
You saying I can have either 5 LTT Store hats (hats + delivery) or this banger of a card?
@hqm85y18 сағат бұрын
It also has a massive advantage over the other two teams for media servers - amazing encodings cards.
@fujinshu18 сағат бұрын
Planning to get an A310 to replace my RTX 3080 Ti for encodes.
@AffectionateLocomotive18 сағат бұрын
sayyy whattt...
@fujinshu18 сағат бұрын
@@AffectionateLocomotive The Arc GPUs have QuickSync encoders, which you find in most Intel CPUs. These hardware video encoders are better-supported than AMF and even NVENC, largely because they have been in Intel iGPUs for so long, and coincidentally, they’re now also the best quality-wise in pretty much every major video codec, including AV1. If you want to add hardware encoding/transcoding to a server, the Arc A310 is the best GPU for that.
@AffectionateLocomotive18 сағат бұрын
@fujinshu i got like everything except all those enconder names.
@andrewt920418 сағат бұрын
@@fujinshu yep, I've found that encoding on my a380 creates higher quality videos at a smaller size vs AMD or Nvenc hardware. Not as good as CPU encoding, but at 3x the speed, it's totally worth it
@sarah.dxv37 сағат бұрын
oeh double sided note: Intel: -I get screwd HARD, invested in about 100x 13/14gen and oof... LTT: -The lighting got really good on this channel!! love it! The improvement on lighting especially is impressive and really happy to see!
@TheFallingFlamingo13 сағат бұрын
I haven't purchased anything Intel in probably 10 years. Unfortunately for the megacorporations, I usually only have enough money for one overly-expensive PC part per build and that's usually a graphics card.
@mattydemisestreams18 сағат бұрын
Would love to see you guys do another extended stream testing a variety of programs and games like you did with the Intel GPUs!
@Lem_On_Lime16 сағат бұрын
Yesss, but give them a few weeks to cook.
@connordeluca579318 сағат бұрын
As a previous a750 owner (I just moved to 4060 ti) I'm really happy to see some hype for this. The first gen had a HORRIBLE launch but after a few months they fixed everything and for $250 I got an insanely good card that I was really happy with. But nobody bought it cause the launch ruined its reputation. I hope battlemage can turn it around.
@Winnetou1717 сағат бұрын
Technically they didn't fixed everything. On the last Intel GPU review/check I saw several months ago, there were still issues, though overall it was much better than at the start.
@cz35vk15 сағат бұрын
moved to a 4060 ti damn my condolces
@bazookasniper516718 сағат бұрын
The math in this was painful to listen to
@JemieBridges18 сағат бұрын
Dude, I count on their math cause I'll be hours working it out on my own and having to search up formulas.
@420kurama16 сағат бұрын
U listen to the segue tho?
@FlightReactsFan9116 сағат бұрын
segue makes up for it tho ngl
@AlchemyFool15 сағат бұрын
Love highlighting of the graphs to show what part Linus is talking about. more of that please. it makes it a LOT easier to see the differences.
@laurensholthof14 сағат бұрын
WOW! Native single instruction multiple data arithmetic logic units??? Finally my CASS uni course applied in real life
@harforlarbi249018 сағат бұрын
1:35 Well that was NUTS
@VardhanShrivastava17 сағат бұрын
10:11 oh god indeed
@agustinmartinez979817 сағат бұрын
8:20 lol Editor Pelle Gustavs, that is not a foot
@PumpiPie14 сағат бұрын
Go intel go. We need you 🎉😊
@TheRenalicious12 сағат бұрын
As someone who is finally getting back into constructing my own desktop / tower after years of using a laptop, I've been genuinely excited about the Arc cards. Alchemist felt a little too "early adopter / beta tester"-ish, so I've been holding out hope for Battlemage. As long as it's faster than the GTX 1650 mobile I'm running, I'll be happy.
@zivzulander9 сағат бұрын
Most of the Alchemist issues got fixed over time, so hopefully (keep your fingers crossed) the Battlemage launch should be a lot smoother. It's hard to say what happens long term, but let's also hope that Intel's GPU team remains intact (or even gets more attention/funding, ideally) regardless of what happens with shakeups at executive level.
@TheRenalicious6 сағат бұрын
@zivzulander I agree, at this point in time I'll take more GPUs in the market
@dasfabelwesen17 сағат бұрын
Wasn't supersampling the opposite: Render more pixels, then downscale to the native resolution for better AA.
@CanIHasThisName16 сағат бұрын
It’s a little confusing because SSAA is called supersampling, and XeSS is also called supersampling.
@Stars-Mine17 сағат бұрын
@7:15 That is NOT how percentages work.
@jittipatshobbakbun651614 сағат бұрын
For those who want more details, 32% less of ARC battle mage would imply the NVIDIA has 68% of ARC performance, but 100%(NVIDIA number) of 132%(ARC number) is actually 100/132 = approximately 75.8% (24.2% less). While the main point still stands, the difference was over exaggerated.
@hasanagera14 сағат бұрын
@@Stars-Mine I came to mention that and saw your comment.
@h.w.656318 сағат бұрын
Having worked with marketing people, XeSS and XeLL are 100% supposed to be pronounced "Excess" and "Excell".
@nickd793513 сағат бұрын
Maybe they shouldn’t have named it a dumb unpronounceable name if they wanted us to say it "correctly"
@adamcwiklinski660910 сағат бұрын
6:34 Intel is not claiming a 26% performance uplift in rasterization performance. Somebody did the math wrong. Intel is actually claiming a 24.5% uplift. You shouldnt substract percentage... Same goes for 6:45 but other way around uplift is actualy around 44% If lets say subject "A" have 75% performence and subject "B" have 150% performence diffrence betwen is not 75% but 100% You should divide performence B and performence A not subtract them
@MrSpiritmonger15 сағат бұрын
Pat Gelsinger was fired (not retired) because the 18A is in terrible shape. He famously "Bet the entire company on 18A", and 18A yields are low (per BroadCom, Qualcomm, and SoftBank assessments). No, Amazon deal had huge contigencies and milestones, that's meaningless. So Pat either misrepresented the true health of 18A or it's true timeline, and got booted.
@andre-le-bone-aparte18 сағат бұрын
@05:17 - Dude.. You're getting a " X e L L"
@SirJimmySavileOBEKCSG19 сағат бұрын
Intel best bring their A-game!
@tsu17718 сағат бұрын
thanks for the insight sir jimmy savile
@spolijing24618 сағат бұрын
yes!
@petterikippo986318 сағат бұрын
Clever joke about it being the B(attlemage) series.
@lucasrem18 сағат бұрын
@@petterikippo9863 The A-Team, 1980 show on TV
@BladeEXE6718 сағат бұрын
@@lucasrem it's a quote from Joey Wheeler, referencing the Yugioh memes in the video.
@iamcbride19 сағат бұрын
I’m sure that them pivoting to a new ceo during a complicated and long term change will go great, assuming of course the board prioritizes the incoming CEO will focus the tech and engineering progress rather than stock price. Right???
@Abdototti0618 сағат бұрын
Right, right 😂
@uceid2 сағат бұрын
This is HUGE. I build around 80 "gaming" PC per years and most of my customers want EXACTLY that. They want a 300$ or less card with enough to play small to medium games. High end PC with high end graphic cards are less than 10% of my builds. 4060 was the only option, now there is more. This is competition where there was very few. This is good for all of us.
@Velerios14 сағат бұрын
What i love about this is that Alchemist was already a BEAST in Raytracing (in respective to it's price). At least better than AMD that struggled to get it running. We might get finally a low priced gpu that is capable of raytracing on a ok-ish framerate.
@TechRoute118 сағат бұрын
Thought my phone was lagging when the segway came up. 1:10
@duanJ_aka_wfoundry18 сағат бұрын
This is the earliest I've ever been to an upload
@spatialfree18 сағат бұрын
i realize vr gaming is niche, but its the biggest support hole on the arc cards at this point. a brief mention/headsup would be appreciated thx
@ForeverHobbit13 сағат бұрын
i don't think a 250$ card is gonna let people play vr games at a decent frame rate...
@TheoHiggins13 сағат бұрын
@@ForeverHobbit And why do you think that?
@iwantgoat6 сағат бұрын
@theo its a 1080 card
@BenMagargee19 минут бұрын
Good call! Hopefully one of the tech channels will cover this aspect. Granted, with WMR discontinued, I'd doubt I'd ever see support for my Samsung headset anyways.
@disco_claus14 сағат бұрын
Main camera footage is messed up for me - wild artefacts, looks like wrong compression or something. Shure you fixed it already :)
@Jbearzy13 сағат бұрын
In the recent years Intel has been going through some major organizational changes. From management to company scope and development. I think Intel is going to do some great things in the coming years, it will just take a little time. They are lucky they have their name to keep them alive through these times.
@N44ru18 сағат бұрын
Watching this video on my powerful Intel Arc A730M, ah no wait, blue screen 💀
@lucasrem18 сағат бұрын
You did build it at home, LOL ! Skills you need ;)
@NothingBeatsHomeMade18 сағат бұрын
That was the best RIDGE sponsor segment RIDGE that I've ever seen RIDGE!
@RobloxianX18 сағат бұрын
This is the first time in years that an early adopter of a next gen product doesn't have to break the bank. You can get started with the fastest Intel GPU for just $250, which will get you above an RX 7600 at $270 and an RTX 4060 at $300.
@prateekpanwar64616 сағат бұрын
They are probably selling at subsidized price.
@g00bergob9415 сағат бұрын
Definitely. But that’s not really out of the ordinary. Lower tier GPUs have less profit margin which is made up with your 4090s and 7900XTXs. Intel just needs to break in to the enthusiast tier and then they’ll have the opportunity to make more profit.
@donrueb46512 сағат бұрын
I love that your content is not just for high end. Thanks for looking out for the little guy.
@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep14 сағат бұрын
I can finally talk UserBenchmark down from that ledge.
@SomePotatoChannel19 сағат бұрын
I am looking forward to XeSS2 because XeSS already looks way better than FSR3 in most games it's in. But a lot of people don't even know about its existence as it was not really advertised by Intel in any way
@xYarbx18 сағат бұрын
Remember that FSR will get 4.0 version with 8000 series launch that is also gonna use AI based up scaler instead of the filter based that AMD has been using this far. So XeSS2 is not competing against FSR 3. Also how many games will actually implement XeSS the 1st version adaptation was quite low.
@wta151818 сағат бұрын
@@xYarbx Found the AMD bot
@xYarbx18 сағат бұрын
@wta1518 Better take off the tinfoil hat before you end up on the list. I've got no reason to shill just stating the fact so people can make more informed decisions.
@Freestyle8017 сағат бұрын
@@xYarbx you should remember that AMD made grand claims about FSR3 and it was still crap
@xYarbx17 сағат бұрын
@@Freestyle80 I made no claim on the quality I simply stated the fact that comparing XeSS2 to FSR 3 is going to miss lead from the experience that you will have for most of the useful life of the card. Meaning that if you use the quality of those upscalers as the deciding factor there is a potential for buyers remorse.
@Joe-cm5kl18 сағат бұрын
Intel's day was not as WILD as the total misunderstanding of how percentages work in this video. I love LTT but politics aside, math is math.
@AMalas17 сағат бұрын
Love the editor doing both ytp style "In a nutshell, youll find nuts" (listen closely, linus didnt say that), AND the subtle foreshadowing trend (the awefully cut segue) Bravo
@filipivan512514 сағат бұрын
Wait, wasnt this the CEO who worked for intel and had great understanding if the CPU / was an actual engineer in the past and huge hope to bring Intel back to the top ?!?!?!
@Lem_On_Lime13 сағат бұрын
We haven't yet seen what he's done for Intel. It takes like 8 years to build fabs.
@davidgoodnow26912 сағат бұрын
Yes, exactly; that's who Intel's Board of Directors fired.
@MrDillian15 сағат бұрын
Imagine sitting here with the good old 1070, we'll have to wait before we are sure.
@nateSeries4 сағат бұрын
@@MrDillian lol can we even buy em on launch day
@spolijing24618 сағат бұрын
He has four jewels! No wait! He has five jewels!! 6:09 !!!
@jerdow16 сағат бұрын
9:06 WHERE ARE MY OTHER 2 SEGUES?
@badATchaos16 сағат бұрын
It makes a lot of sense to make a low end cards these days. Gamers are playing older games, or rather not moving off older titles, and many folks are gaming on 1080p so it there's no need to really get the latest gen hardware. And because we have platforms like XB Series S and Switch have pretty low end specs, developers are having to optimize for the lowest common denominator anyways.
@robindebondt464315 сағат бұрын
And a lot of people just play esport titles
@reaIixx9 сағат бұрын
But they... dont do much optimization at all? Most larger games now just use Unreal Engine, and through DLSS and frame gen on it and hope it's good enough
@dlmac8 сағат бұрын
With all the issues intel has had, want to give them props for accepting my 14900ks claim with no issues at all. Brand new and it was failing bad (crashes daily). Got a new one in 48(ish) hours.
@lllMithrandirlll13 сағат бұрын
That was easily the best sponsor segue yet. I don't know how you guys do it. I'd have run out of segue ideas 5 years ago.
@simonholmqvist801718 сағат бұрын
Finally the Rx 580 has a worthy successor, fingers crossed.
@Daniel-dj7fh16 сағат бұрын
I remember when people wanted 400 bucks for an rx580 a few years ago lol
@simonholmqvist801715 сағат бұрын
@@Daniel-dj7fh Yeah, that was insane. I could have sold my pc four years after I built it for more money than I spent on it.
@Chris-uz5dp18 сағат бұрын
It's a bit misleading to say "it costs $20 less and gives 34% more performance per dollar". That's like factoring in the price twice to make it seem even better-er.
@Winnetou1717 сағат бұрын
Glad to see someone pointing that out.
@CanIHasThisName16 сағат бұрын
Those are two different statements. It could cost less but give worse performance per dollar.
@clestachra72717 сағат бұрын
1:20 what…
@Exilum10 сағат бұрын
6:10 Is it just me or does the image seem weird here. Green reflections on the skin, What seems like artifacts of a strong lossy compression, and even the background which is supposed to be too blurry to see details just looks blocky. Even changing to a higher resolution did not fix this. Is it youtube acting weirdly or is it an issue with the camera raw?
@breack165210 сағат бұрын
According to math, it is only 24.5% better than the AMD card in raster performance and 42% better in ray tracing.
@Мирич-з4е12 сағат бұрын
Why does this announcement feel so rushed, like Linus had to do something more important, and he was like, "Ok, let's announce this and move on"?
@BleepBlop-rh9lm12 сағат бұрын
He's just excited
@Мирич-з4е12 сағат бұрын
@@BleepBlop-rh9lm He doesn't seem excited one bit. He looks like he just wants to get over with.
@Cuwubiq11 сағат бұрын
nah that's just you having empathy skill issues. hes clearly excited.
@L0CKW0OD18 сағат бұрын
that segue was actually really good. I mean ridge is now plastered in my memory so much I commented this
@sandejunior18 сағат бұрын
Damm the bitrate looks pretty bad. Is this a greenscreen?
@Burgercat18 сағат бұрын
bitrate? might be the frame rate, this one's in 24fps as opposed to 30 in other videos
@sandejunior16 сағат бұрын
@Burgercat no the block-artifacting is not caused by a lower fps
@Roboman_16 сағат бұрын
Don't know if it is a greenscreen, but the background do get worse over time. Looking above the phone in the bookshelf, it is loosing data and the skincolor on Linus has green patches and makes him look sick.
@complexquattro13 сағат бұрын
NGL 😂 that Yugioh reference at the end lol
@microcolonel14 сағат бұрын
I like that they have chosen a naming scheme which tas 26 iterations available.
@AskemoX18 сағат бұрын
I can't wait for the full review. I am still loving my A770 although it does have it's weaknesses. For 250$ if it would give just a little bit more stability, or basic shader fixes like running Spacebase Startopia without green lines, MK1 without bright white lights whenever Chameleon is doing anything, it could be a solid, buy it to support them until B770 comes out solution. Please if you test games again on the B580 like when ARC first came out, make sure you try out these two games somehow because these issues are insane! :)
@Witch_The_Snep18 сағат бұрын
same! Ive got the Asrock PG 16gb card. If battlemage flagship is still in that 300$ price class, im definitely upgrading
@kmieciu4ever3 сағат бұрын
you'll get 25% more green lines and bright white lines than RTX4060 :-)
@AskemoX2 сағат бұрын
@@kmieciu4ever yeah, the sacrifice of supporting the newcomer, running Bloodrayne 2 on 30 fps because dx9 was a nightmare (fixed) and the white flashes of regret xD
@kmieciu4everСағат бұрын
@@AskemoX DX9 is only emulated on Intel cards and that is the reason of poor performance. People like to shit on RTX4060 but mine runs Stalker 2 at about 100 fps thanks to framegen and uses max 100 Wats. It's like having a laptop card in your PC :-)
@AskemoX41 минут бұрын
@kmieciu4ever yeah, i know it uses a translation layer for anything under dx12. I think performance is really relative. Someone accepting low settings 1080p or with heavy scaling, while others want pure native performance :)