Intel Arc Battlemage B580 & B570 GPU Specs, Price, & Release Date

[@GamersNexus]

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[@OfSheikah]

no please whats with the code you good? snowflake please check in on the team

[@koyomiararagl]

hey, im aways asking this, but no one ever gives me a answer, why GPU still have the I/O shield attached to the PCB instead of the heatsink structure? woudlnt that solve all the sagging , and pcie crack problems?

[@codyisrude]

If they survive for five generations they get a healer but they will be dead by then so the healer won't have anything to do

[@johns70]

Druids are also healers, come on! ;)

[@Prestiged_peck]

We need a B9xx or C9xx SKU as a balls to the wall throw everything at it halo card SKU that compete on performance with at least a 4080 or 5080 soon, give nvidia some real competition.

[@BRC_Del]

PLEASE let this play out well. This is the only 12 GB, 192-bit card in the market that's actually priced like a 12 GB, 192-bit card. Thanks for your work!

[@carry.website]

I'm buying 2 for some high-endish budget builds

[@farazalikhan5242]

which is good at 1440p and RT, this is what 4060 should have been

[@CahyoPrabowo]

We should wait for B770 version

[@daedalus6433]

@@CahyoPrabowoNah, low-end gamers need a win

[@puffyips]

@@carry.websitethese sound highend ish to you? Will barely succeed in the mid range to me, will be good for low end and lower mid end just cause of price.

[@Biespilantak-p6n]

I wish Steve had cosplayed as an Alchemist for A-series coverage and as a Battlemage for this video.

[@imjust_a]

I really want Battlemage to be a success, not solely for the betterment of the industry and to upgrade from my GTX1070, but mainly because I think "Battlemage" is such a sick name for a GPU haha

[@PhotoJohn80]

Buy one if you want it to be a success. Only way it can be a success is if the consumer buys enough. Support Intel if you want them to keep making GPUs.

[@polla2256]

​​​@@PhotoJohn80exactly, I might buy, test, make a small build then buy the b770. I'm on a 3070 so it wouldn't be an upgrade but AMD had their chances and ngreedia are just punks.

[@wendigo7176]

How dare you apply logic on us? Nono, YOU guys buy them

[@Mcnooblet]

@@PhotoJohn80 Buy for yourself, you are the consumer. Wtf is wrong with people thinking they need to pay for a companies success. The company won't be at your funeral, or pay any of your death fees. I don't get the emotionally invested into corporations, they don't even know you or care to, just want profit margins and your $$$. I like Intel and 'hope' they are successful, but I'm not paying for it. Good luck Intel.

[@ImperialFool]

​@@PhotoJohn80I'd buy if the uplift between a b7** is a big enough change from my a770.

[@stuartthurstan]

4060+ performance with 12gb vram at $249 seems like a pretty solid offering. Let's hope everything just works and that these cards can be recommended.

[@وليدحسيناشتيوي]

Not really back in 2022 I believe you could get 6700xt with 12gb for about $280-$300 also 6700 10gb. so you had something similar for a little bit extra money almost 3 years ago.

[@Oneiric_Benevolence]

Which would make it like 15% faster than a 5700 xt from 5.5 years ago at the same power consumption... As a new purchace, it's a 1080p card at best.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@وليدحسيناشتيوي Excet XeSS is an actually good upscaler

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

@@وليدحسيناشتيوي Theoretically, if you could get the card you were after in stock, and at MSRP

[@PanderingSlats]

@@Oneiric_Benevolence but they're specifically chasing optimization at 1440p and from the sounds of it, they're handling raytracing better than AMD.

[@Dawnbandit1]

Holy shit, affordable GPUs.

[@GamersNexus]

Agreed. Hopefully they're good.

[@jasonvors1922]

Nvidia and Amd keep milking their fan bases because being a loyalest screws over everyone

[@Erksah02]

DOA, they're on par with 2021 gpus

[@Splarkszter]

LET'S GOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@GoldNargacuga]

@@Erksah02 i doubt that but we'll see.

[@CarlWinslowFM]

The price has me instantly intrigued

[@SpentAmbitionDrain]

I LOVE the zoom in when the DnD rant starts. We noticed production!

[@GamersNexus]

hahaha, Vitalii added that! He'll appreciate this comment.

[@ElektronDeForza]

And Steve is right! Why C is celestial, a race, and not Cleric. At least the party would have a healer and half tank until F

[@impulseXI]

@@GamersNexus WINDOWS 11 has a local account toggle switch Steve, you & Wendell should make a correction, for the gamerz broski!

[@BattleOverride856]

​@@ElektronDeForza that's what I was wondering.....no Cleric?

[@A_GWAKwork_Orange]

coulda had berserker

[@anshumansingh8220]

Intel's GPU division is on fire rn, while their CPU division is "on fire"

[@TokeBoisen]

The "Reverse AMD"

[@faolor6468]

An actual 3rd playyyer in the GPU market would be so good

[@Vantrakter]

Except if as Steve predicts Intel takes AMD market share while Nvidia remains the only known manufacturer to 99% of gamers

[@kaimojepaslt]

lol , funny hopes

[@gamerulrafihd55]

It's not so good when the guy with a monopoly has all the market 😂😂 trying to survive will be hard and come out with good prices and stock

[@Vantrakter]

@@realsleepi Why would they? Consoles have gone well. Their next gen coming up.

[@realsleepi]

​@@Vantrakteramd is pulling out of the high end gpu market, myb

[@MmntechCa]

Arc are honestly the most exciting GPUs to come out since Polaris/Pascal. With Intel's financial woes, it's a bloody miracle Battlemage even made it out the door. I have an A770, which replaced an RX 480 a couple years ago. Drivers have come a long way. Still have a way to go, but here's a lot of potential there. If they can actually keep them affordable, these will be a killer budget option. Especially with a lot of disillusioned console gamers who are eyeing PC, but aren't yet ready to drop the big bucks.

[@TheSickness]

@@MmntechCa It could still be a "the chips have been made a whole ago and they at least need to recoup some of what they spent on them" situation, instead of turning them back into sand. Fingers crossed they stick with it, they work and they continue to support their stuff, they need to say it

[@dregothic]

The saddest part is their woes mostly stem from heavily investing in building more FABs to help buff American chip making and each FAB is insanely expensive, about $10 billion per these days. I hope they continue with this and their current CPU strategy. While it may not be the overall best performer, the power and temp drop is a good move. We have gotten too used to our CPUs running insanely hot, even AMD. I miss the days when 60c was considered on the high end of hot for a CPU.

[@antraxbeta23]

All about the drivers, and how stable performance is between games.

[@GamersNexus]

That'll definitely be the bulk of the review work!

[@DavideDavini]

I know you are talking about Windows but I feel the same on the Linux side of things. Intel GPUs are awful there too. Hopefully they improve at least at NVIDIA level. That’d be great.

[@CharlieConcepts-pw9ur]

@@DavideDavini I don't know abouit awful. My old linux Manjaro gaming rig had an A750. And it was able to handle pretty heavy blender renders. My aunt got me an 7900 xt as a graduation gift. So i did switch to that. But the A750 was okay. Not on AMD's level yet. But it was decent.

[@DavideDavini]

@ I’m talking about gaming, should have specified. I just read reports of people complaining about weird issues or even flat out complaining about not being able to run certain games. I don’t own one myself, just basing my opinion on what people say online. Cheers mate.

[@daniellima4391]

Can't wait for GN reviews on these cards

[@_Jacob_Mathew]

I hope the battalemage GPU reviews have a larger plethora of games to test. Hopefully spread across a decade or two to test stability with older games as you said. This could be something that flies under the radar until it pops up in a subreddit or a tweet

[@lilkitsune]

Steve really dropped the ball on this one... Battlemage is a perstige class that combines both melee dps and buff casting in one character, making it an ideal choice for a light party. Celestial are just a race so I'm not sure what Intel is planning for it, but they can be really good healers. Finally Druids are very good tanks, especially moon druid. Clearly intel is planing for the long term but im worried about their short term survivability.

[@MormonDude]

Druids only have a D6 hit die, you can only be so tanky with a D6 hit die.

[@SarthakNarnaulia]

company board is the problem. pat's plan was working okish. but to fire him only in 4 years is pure bullshit

[@BigHeadClan]

I was going to say Battle Mages are close combat in most fantasy genres (and I’d assume D&D) as well. lol Glad someone else caught it .

[@guycxz]

@@MormonDude With wildshape it doesn't really matter since you need to go through the wildshape's hitpoints that are separate from the druid. Moon druids can wildshape as a bonus action, and can also use a bonus action while in wild shape to expend a spell slot to heal 1d8 per spell slot level.

[@OddLeah]

​@@MormonDude I love the Shepherd Druid, because your conjured creatures get stronger as you level. I didn't need to tank, my conjures did that for me.

[@CiciNinil]

Just sooooo good, Healer punchline gave me a chuckle

[@Uro666]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="110">1:50</a> after F they get Fighter and then a G for a Gelsinger... ...oh wait.

[@GamersNexus]

oh...

[@Uro666]

@@GamersNexus Too soon?

[@johnnyringo35]

Gunslinger is his nickname 😉

[@LeonardTavast]

F is obviously the Framerater class 😂

[@ayuchanayuko]

P is for Papa

[@blackbird42]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="95">1:35</a> it's all about glass cannons!

[@guy197]

Here are some E options for Intel's GPU line: Enchanter, Elementalist and Elder. Let's just hope they make it to their 5th gen and beyond, and pose real competition to out of control Nvidia prices.

[@NickKarpowicz]

I think Ent could be a tank class (weak against fire, though)

[@nERVEcenter117]

Elementalist is the coolest there, lots of cool factor injected into that one by Guild Wars.

[@magfjo6035]

Ecstasy

[@OrientalStories]

100% elementalist

[@Stormbolter]

They can always play a hybrid class like the Eldritch Knight. No tank but at least can hold a sword

[@JoeStuffzAlt]

The amount of raytracing in those render parts looks like a pretty good threat

[@MrBlueBurd0451]

I mean, a Druid is technically a caster but if he Wild Shapes into a bear of some sort they work wonderfully as a tank.

[@informitas0117]

And they can also shift into a heavy coin operated drink machine from the 80's, so they can heal too.

[@SaptarsiDas]

and with Shillelagh, they can be a good melee unit

[@H31ntz-s7r]

You mean that druid from Baldurs' Gate that turned himself into a bear?

[@the-thane]

Wild shape into a bear gives really good DPS as well at lower levels

[@pappy374]

Doric in Honour Among Thieves was

[@kettusnuhveli]

As a homelabber I really hope they're going to announce B310 and B380 at some point!

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

They probably won't. They need cash flow.

[@Shantara11]

More options in the lower market segment are always welcome!

[@RN1441]

Judging by the price point and the RT performance this thing might OWN the lower end of the stack. Intel could be about to do the market a huge service by making all the Nvidia and AMD crap that they tend to push out as their terrible low end products obsolete. I hope intel wipes them both out of the sub 400 market as they both deserve to get rolled up. Simultaneously I hope AMD does the same thing to the mid range with the 8800xt.

[@Shantara11]

@ I’m cautiously optimistic, but I’ll wait until we see 3rd party benchmark results and software compatibility reports. It won’t be the first time a company claimed incredible performance results in their own slide deck that completely fell apart once the hardware got into the reviewers’ hands.

[@05DonnieB]

​@RN1441 how? It's a glorified 4060? Intel a generation behind yet again.😂

[@notwhatitwasbefore]

I dunno as someone that has to fix other peoples mistakes/missold gpu issues I only see confusion in the don't know very much so want something cheap mass market.

[@MS10x]

​​@@05DonnieB Its cheaper & better as shown in video

[@Heisenberg_747]

The pricing is so good for a budget build

[@esaedvik]

Everything is a budget build.

[@autoglobus]

It's not to late for Celestial to become Cleric so they can have a good healer.

[@thetheoryguy5544]

Intel needs a good healing.

[@dragoon0anime]

Hope we can we get a good DPS healer

[@Klatchan]

Can't wait for the numbers on this

[@AzzAmoebA]

But what DID the dice roll ?!?!?!

[@Andreazor]

I really want them to do good. We all need that.

[@Janeichen]

Great news honestly. Didn't expect it to release next week already. I really hope Intel keeps their GPU department. The software improvements we saw on the Arc series up to this point look very promising and more competition os obviously better for us consumers. The low and lower mid-range market wasn't very well taken care of by Nvidia and AMD in the recent few years. At least not at MSRP. So I'm hoping to see something decent in the 150$ ranger later on.

[@kravenfoxbodies2479]

I think the last good mid - range card was the RX 5700 depending on the model $329 - $359, later on I sold mine for $700, bought the overpriced RTX 3070 for $759 and still have that one.

[@Janeichen]

@@kravenfoxbodies2479 depends on how we define mid-range, but I would say lower-mid starts at around 200, and upper mid-range nowadays sadly stops at maybe 500-550? If you define it by price instead of performance. I bought a 3060ti at release for the MSRP of 400, which was really a great deal at that price... Sold my Vega 56 for waaayyyyy too much due to mining. For the last months the RX 6000 series had some good cards in that price range as well. And I agree the 5700(XT) were decent, at least when they ironed out the driver issues. Also the GTX 1060/1070(ti),1660S plus RX 470/480/570/580 had awesome prices at some points between 2017 and 2019 when they were not heavily inflated by mining... The 8GB 580 was down to 100$ at times and the 1060/6 around 130$. They would've been considered mid-range at the time I'd say.

[@maxweinbach3996]

Did you buy an intel gpu?

[@MAJ_T_Bagger]

​@maxweinbach3996 I went from 5600xt to a770le 16gb and don't regret it at all. It was a bit finicky at first but these days it's trading blows with 3070 and works really well for upscaling to 4k with decently high settings on most games.

[@kingjasko]

Rx6600 for 200-250ish was pretty good for me ​@@kravenfoxbodies2479

[@elone3997]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="339">5:39</a> I always appreciate the little extras in the edits - sometimes subtle, sometimes not so, but always nicely done. I kind of imagine a Metal Gear 'alert' sound and a close up on your face might have been the cherry on the editing cake to accompany the dice CU, but now I'm just nerding out in my own fantasy edit now 😁

[@vincentlee7937]

I freaking love the editing whenever steve goes off tangent the slow zoom in and sometime out right cutting him off a joke LOL

[@AngelSharma-on8bg]

Yes he addressed the most important part of the launch at the start as expected("the naming")

[@OtikScypi]

To understand their reasoning behind the naming convention, it is crutial to realize that they are not D&D classes, they are from Pathfinder! They are using alternative TTRPG system, to underline the point that they are alternative to established names like nvidia & amd (so so meta). They can get Crusader at third generation and this way will get somewhat competent tank and a healer combo. I mean, it is not perfect party, but it could work.

[@IcyTorment]

But C is already named Celestial.

[@OtikScypi]

@@IcyTorment Nooooo, that's some homebrew crap. :(

[@DuckandBalls]

I don't think the Arab market would take very kindly to it if it was named crusader

[@henrikg1388]

@@DuckandBalls Arab market?

[@titaniac3037]

I’m tempted to buy one just to play around with it, it wouldn’t be an upgrade over my current card but it might be fun to play with.

[@faceurhell]

If those Intel drivers are more universally compatible and the card does not crash… that will be a gigantic success. The GPU and CPU market needs a strong Intel.

[@samnesbitt9735]

This might be in my current build that I'm pulling together. Can't wait to see how this shakes out

[@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke]

They need to address the composition issue. Celestial doesn't even quite properly fit the convention. Make it cleric. Fixed.

[@Psyger_]

Make it CHAOS series.

[@thetheoryguy5544]

@@Psyger_ Not after all that's going on with Intel. Think they want to stay far away from that name.

[@Psyger_]

@@thetheoryguy5544 😂😂😂 FR

[@Igor369]

@@Psyger_ RAYS FOR THE RAY GOD. CORES FOR THE CORE THRONE.

[@KosmatyWilczek]

They have already done a good job, just not enough to be on par with NVIDIA and AMD, but it is still enormously impressive to progress this much in a few last years.

[@thegamepadguru6723]

If Intel can get the drivers in check and pricing to disrupt the market like AMD did for the RX480, Battlemage could a budget PC gamers dream.

[@domenicfp]

Great analysis!! Your channel is a different type of content that separates you from the crowd. Thank you!

[@shagohodds]

drivers, drivers, drivers.

[@GamersNexus]

It's all about the drivers!

[@johnnyringo35]

What kind of cars will the drivers be operating?

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

*clapping with each word while sweating profusely*

[@connivingkhajiit]

It's been years dog, their good

[@jeffreygrindle6396]

I had a a 770 for about a month had a flip that took a while to sell so I thought I would give it a test drive I really didn't have any issues minus having to ddu to Intel interface once and reinstall drivers never figured out what caused that issue but it was easy to fix as for proformance 1440p seemed to run at 60+ on all major titles Ray tracing worked surprisingly good tho

[@Aldrinkun]

So far we've got: Alchemist Battlemage Celestial -All casters Druid -open to all possibilities, likely a healer or a dps Up ahead we could have: Enchanter -Support/buffs Fighter -heavy meele Guardian -Tank Hunter -Ranged

[@ArmchairMagpie]

They could still use Battlemage forever with clever naming like Supreme Battlemage, Red Battlemage, Clan Battlemage, Battlemage of the 7th Order, Heretical Battlemage of the Black Dragon a.s.o.

[@Noodle-Ninja]

Battlemage of the 69th Feline Destroyers

[@abcdxyz2155]

Battlemage of the 36th chambers of shaolin

[@IcyTorment]

It would be really hard to get through the whole alphabet that way.

[@Hypershell]

"We do sell dice, and sometimes they roll." Well, I'm sold.

[@CthuluNew]

The price looks right, the b580 is probably the only new 12g card for 250. I hope it goes well.

[@Morimea]

7600xt 16GB is not that far(+25%) in price.... but you dont rly need 16GB on "this slow" GPU - for 1080p you will never use even 10GB, and for 1440p+ performance of 7600xt is barelly 60fps on rasterization, with raytracing it is 20-30fps... (4060ti 16GB is scam, not worth mentioning, 1440p gpu is $500+ gpus 4070+) and previous generation of Intel GPUs have problem with performance - in many tasks CPU with 8-cores works faster than Intel GPU with 16GB vram....

[@SPG8989]

Yea the whole vram thing is so overblown l. Why do people waslnt 16gb on a 1080p card​@Morimea

[@SarthakNarnaulia]

@@Morimea 16 gb on 7600xt is not worth while but on 7800xt it is worth it. 7800xt is comparable to 4070. and 7800xt is bit cheaper

[@thetheoryguy5544]

@@SPG8989 Uh upscaling?

[@canaconn2388]

​@Morimea 25% is alot if you're looking for a budget card

[@sagecolvard9644]

Pathfinder just gave us Exemplar in their War of Immortals sourcebook, which is a martial class, so their party could be balanced out with that, and Druids and Alchemists are pretty okay at healing, and having both should be as good as having 1 dedicated healer.

[@tripplejaz]

Ya gotta give it to Intel, their GPUs are super pretty.

[@sdfopsdmsdofjmp7863]

Honestly I have a huge soft spot for the 30- and 40-series Nvidia FE cards. Intel doesn't have a chance.

[@mmadevgame]

they are but unfortunately the reason why is they just glue it together. So very hard to dissasemble, repair etc.

[@Beefercow]

Theyre also comparatively thin. I like the looks of em, but ill stick to my 7900xt.

[@TheAmazingCowpig]

@@mmadevgameThe LE for A-series yeah. Hopefully they learned this time around.

[@warren_r]

I have the A770 LE, it really is a nice-looking card and the RGB illumination is satisfying.

[@jacobb-c7946]

More competition is always amazing to see, can’t wait for future intel gpus because budget gamers are going to get more options.

[@Marbeary]

Intel could really do the funniest thing and really name E as Explorer.

[@pjavilla]

"Hol' up!" - Microsoft, probably

[@s0renK]

Enchanter

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

Druid is rumored to be canned. So no E as Explorer.

[@Oceanborn712]

Yep. With that design I'm going to buy all the LImited Editions. Was so waiting for pictures. Thanks!

[@iwsfg]

I enjoy design of these first party Intel cards a lot. They don't scream "gaming", it's just a sleek brick. That blue "Titan" card is also pretty. Finally

[@iwsfg]

Well, to be fair, first party Vega 7 card was a looker, I all forgot about those.

[@sureberferber9101]

Yes, that's lovely. But... Will buyers be waiting up to another year for viable drivers depending on the game(s)?

[@zedxspecturm4698]

I had an a580 for a while and it was honestly usable! Only thing that made me move back to amd was VR performance. Sounds like Intel is going to work through the growing pains and eventually have something good.

[@gazzertrn]

Bet these guys get one on release , cant wait for them to test it .👍

[@TheCnf]

When that camera started zooming in slowly, I knew Steve was going to start Steve'ing with DND stuff lol

[@Vertilgung]

i dedicated my life now to count Steves grey hair increase per video per date on my benchmark flowchart. wish me luck.

[@AuntJemimaGames]

I think that the B580 is actually a pretty competitive GPU... in a very narrow market segment. Personally, I'm disappointed that they haven't even hinted at an A770 successor, and will be waiting and hoping that there will be. That's what I was actually excited for, and would definitely shell out for.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

What? There is going to be a B780 later in 2025

[@mademedothis424]

I ended up getting an A770 on sale to fill in a blank slot on a PC made out of leftover parts (the kind of scenario Steve references in the video) and I was so pleased with it. Didn't bump into any major driver issues and the performance for the price was really good. If the price and performance scale as they did last time the 780 could make a lot of sense for mid-price builds. I don't know how narrow the segment for these 200 bucks cards is, though. As in, I legitimately have no idea. These days it seems it's all either absurd megamachines burning a small solar farm's worth of energy... or handhelds and laptops on integrated GPUs. I don't know if it's just me building hand-me-down PCs out of scraps or building desktop gaming PCs on a budget or what. The market is all weird now.

[@cecilb7927]

When Alchemist released they only released the A750 and A770 at first, with the 5 series coming about six months later. They had dropped the price of the A750 to about $249 by the time the A580 came out, so they really had to release it well below $200. I think they will see where the B580 goes before setting prices on the 7 series Battlemage cards. I have had an A770 LE since about six months after launch, I have had a great experience with it, but I put it into a system with a 12600kf and DDR5, and don't really play a lot of DX11 games.

[@imaginalex5850]

Don't loose hope they have the extra modularity and expansion of the gpu die in mind, i wouldn't count a mid to high end sku later.

[@K0vasz]

considering Intel's current situation, they might went like "let's see how these perform on the market, and if sales are good, we'll launch B770. otherwise, we'll cancel our dGPUs alltogether"

[@Ale-ch7xx]

From a Computer Store and A580 owner: I have an Arc A580 and the drivers are not at the point where I can recommend it to the masses. I bought it to support Intel and it plays PUBG competitively when compared to the then-priced rx 6600. Arc A580 was $20 less. For my clients, I cannot recommend Arc until they fix their drivers. They have improved A TON but not at the point yet I can recommend them. I am currently building mostly AMD Radeon based gaming computers and a few Nvidia. In terms of B580 pricing, for people who just want to game and not worry about the drivers, I see them spending an extra $50-$80 for the 7600 XT 16 GB. I believe the B580 needs to be at $200 for people who are cautious about Intel Arc to buy them. That's not to say I wouldn't myself, but I am okay dealing with their driver problems. That puts me in the minority. Nevertheless, if you're considering Intel and don't mind, please give them money to keep the executives happy and ARC around. I do want them to be competitive but the B580 pricing is high and I have a gut feeling reviews are going to say the same thing after they test them themselves and it'll be for a niece market for people like me.

[@TheSickness]

First and foremost Intel MUST declare their future commitment

[@nimrodery]

Regular driver updates for GPUs with abysmal sales are a pretty good indicator, also Xe cores are in mobile so they are committed as any company gets these days.

[@Eren-da-Jaeger]

Very true. This is all early 2000s vibes where dGPU were trying to get stable for games and slowly rising with performance uplifts. I too want some commitment or official pipeline of future developments and we got a good competition. To be honest, they should try to sell these GPUs in India where people pay 350 USD for 4060 and that is the most selling card. If B580 can sell at actual price which they can do as they sell CPUs at right price, then the will earn back a lot and it will help their future budget.

[@TheSickness]

@nimrodery THEY need to speak out for themselves, lay out the future plans and show more than just one guy as the GPU team. The pure belief of fanbois means nothing. Churches run on pure belief.

[@AlphaConde-qy7vi]

@@nimrodery They were committed under the then-CEO... who has just been ousted. Don't take anything for granted.

[@nimrodery]

@@TheSickness There's no GPU team, they all work in different departments as of a couple years ago. GPU development is a subset of other departments, like AI. It's actually a good thing because GPU development ends up being subsidized by other endeavors, which takes the pressure off for market adoption. I'm not worried about NVidia's "team" even though I usually just see one guy in a leather jacket talking about how cool games are.

[@CarthagoMike]

Honestly, Intel got the pricing perfect. Lets hope the software of the card can live up to the hardware.

[@matthewboudreau158]

You can tell Tom Petersen was involved when they bust out slides like the one at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="585">9:45</a>

[@gdi69]

the zoom-in with the RPG classes rant 🤣

[@daniil3815]

Rare W for Intel and low end GPUs. Fingers crossed 🤞 for good drivers.

[@brotherwulfgar]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="480">8:00</a> I actually agree with the 1440p approach. 1080p has been enough for a decade now, but the next step up is becoming more obtainable these days, and with motion clarity and image sharpness being ever important in competitive games, 1440p might very well be considered the competitive standard by now, or at least it will be eventually. I think it’s a great idea to sell affordable graphics cards with the intent on targeting the most competitive spaces. This marketing is meant to be a reassurance for competitive gamers on a budget. A 165hz 1440p monitor new is just as affordable as an intel GPU now.

[@PhoticSneezeOne]

I want Intel ARC Necromancer !!!

[@lordbalzamore7692]

Potentially have to wait for 20ish years :(

[@SamsungGalaxyS24Plus5G]

Want arc Z790

[@Indjinnity]

@@lordbalzamore7692 20 years? We'll probably have GTA VI Expanded and Enhanced version at that point. That's a really long time.

[@MarioCRO]

Another OC session with Joe, hell yeah... OC sessions in general are great content and OC'ing the Intel card for the first time would definitely be interesting.

[@TestingWithIntelArcGPU]

Yes. Driver improvement is a must!

[@FaljeLazuli]

To steer clear of casters, we could see Crusader and Dragon before Fighter ...couldn't think of anything better for E besides Evoker...maybe Eloquence? Esper? Either way, they're still casters... I do love Intel using letters to indicate generations rather than numbers. Makes the tiers easier to describe instead of saying things like "the 90 family" or "900 series within the 7000 series". Still got the "one digit is perpetually 0" problem though.

[@CallmeBae]

*bae has a big question, bae uses the intel iris Xe dg {asus} card to install on the celeron PC on bae channel,bae download the graphic card driver on the shengqi page. When only that card is plugged in, the screen is black. But when plugged in with Arc a750 (only plug the riser into the pcie with the auxiliary power cord, not plugging in the display output) plug in the display output by display port of the iris vga, the pc can be used and it is still receiving iris. The graphic Xe can use so much %, i also tested the card loading 100%, and the arc does not plug in the display output so in gpu 2 it says 0%. That means my celeron PC is definitely using the iris card. But bae does not understand that since til now,i still cannot let the machine run on only the iris card every time i remove the arc, the screen is black even though it is clearly not plugging in any kind of display and using display by Asus iris dg. Bae asked a lot of people in Vietnam but it seems like only I have encountered this situation in my country. I hope someone has an answer to help me because since then I have tried many ways like changing the pcie slot or trying to insert a different card with iris but nothing is working. If you knows the sistuation or anyone who capable of dealing with this, please contact f.b bae bê*

[@IHaveAnAwfulUserName]

They could use Echo Knight for E to get a fighter subclass.

[@Marbeary]

Enchantress or Elementalist

[@FaljeLazuli]

@@Marbeary Still casters, but I do like those two way more than my suggestions.

[@gamernerd7139]

I am rooting for Intel. Hope these cards perform price competitive.

[@Didymuss1]

It would be both very funny and very cool if Intel does actually pull it off and comes in swinging with actually good budget RT cards that beat NVidia. I'm rooting for them, more competition is never a bad thing.

[@PanderingSlats]

I wish there was some way Intel and AMD could band together in an 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' way to prop up AMD CPU's and Intel GPU's, all in an effort to put pressure on NVidia and... I guess ARM architecture in the consumer CPU space?

[@napsterking]

Nvidia probably won't care until Internet cafe's contract with other GPU makers.

[@Hugh_I]

I mean budget RT GPU sounds like fun, but I question that RT is all that relevant for cards of this class. I mean the 4060 can theoretically do it if it doesn't run out of VRAM, but mostly on games where RT is not a worthwhile visual upgrade for the perf cost. Most games with serious RT that may be worth enabling are basically unplayable with RT on a 4060 class card. Unless you dial down quality settings, which doesn't make much sense of best visuals are your goal.

[@chadwolf3840]

Budget PC’s making a comeback.

[@TevisC]

My A770 has been pretty good. Looking forward to what Intel can do.

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

Do you use Linux?

[@Vidjnjsdnjk-en6tz]

@@GreyDeathVaccine Yes, ANV is shitty tho. Bad performance on many games. And RT doesn't work properly.

[@PumatSol]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="345">5:45</a> WHAT DID YOU ROLL STEVE? You can’t leave us hanging

[@connivingkhajiit]

Awesome, can't wait for the B770 news

[@Eldejot]

This. No 16 GB minimum, no buy. Hope they don't blow up the TBP past 250 though.

[@riyuiwashere]

looks like B770 will be the flagship from them though

[@theshinken]

This. There's rumors the flagships have production problems, but I'm so sick of the higher end GPU market right now, I really hope Intel can sort it out. I'd love to upgrade from the usual affordable mid-range AMD card to something beasty without throwing out all sense of value out of the window and I'd happily do it with Intel if they nail it and shake up that segment.

[@MoonBunnyLovers]

​@@riyuiwashere yeah I don't think Intel is aiming for high end yet. Hopefully just affordable efficient cards. Intel wanted to charge way more for the A770, the build quality alone feels like it was targeting $700, not $320. I'm just afraid eventually we will have 3 companies charging around $2,000 for their highest cards and just small changes down the line...

[@JHawke1]

I bet it's physically impossible for Steve to roll anything less than a nat 20. A gift and a curse.

[@nice_bnuuy]

Admittedly pretty tempted to make a budget HTPC gaming build with one of these cards.

[@Burbanana]

Thanks Steve

[@GM-xk1nw]

Get something new

[@davidburk4546]

You’re welcome, Pat

[@LordDragox412]

I know he kinda looks like Jack Black but you've got the wrong guy. /s

[@johnnyringo35]

I will .....I'm getting a Battle mage card.... 😎

[@Kneel2ThaCrown]

No problem =)

[@jondoe9596]

Gotta say, I am a big fan of the way Intel is designing the look of their GPUs.

[@reD_Bo0n]

Clipped the classes rant from the beginning. Just sooooo good, Healer punchline gave me a chuckle

[@ZebulonsPi]

"We're very concerned... they don't have a tank, they don't have DPS..." Love you guys.

[@Stars-Mine]

I feel like im being negative, but this would be so much more interesting if it had came out 6 months ago. RDNA4 coming out in a month deflates the room a LOT if this is comparing itself to the likes of the RX 7600

[@or1on89]

Yeah…and the 4060 is a 3060 realistically…not raising the bar at all, apart from the 260$ good price point…but that’s the price the 4060 should’ve had 2 years ago. Plus no point in RT being good if the cars consume like cards 2x more powerful than it. If AMD really is moving to monolithic RDNA3 design + improved RT pipeline and if really they are focusing only on mid to low range these cards are screwed in one month…

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

@@or1on89 Who care about power draw? Modern GPUs regularly consumes 270+ W (see AMD 7700XT)

[@or1on89]

@@GreyDeathVaccine It's not a matter of how it consumes per se...it's a matter compared to the competition at the same price. If they need bigger wafer and more power to deliver a mid/low range product they won't be able to scale to the high end. Alchemist suffered from this problem, if Battlemage doesn't improve on that front it's going to be carnage in January...because we are talking about offering the performance of a 4yo card (yeah, the 4060 performs like the 3060 apart from RT) at a price that the card was supposed to have 3 years ago, not a good look and not something that can help pushing the market in the way we consumers need...

[@inkrot]

I built a PC for a friend who’s been struggling with mental health issues but likes to game and make music. I put an A550 in there and so far he’s been able to run everything he enjoys with no issues. Sure it’s a bit of a power hog compared to some others but in the long run it’s been perfect. Intel is gonna be a staple in media computers I’m going to be building.

[@oculiardentes]

Looking forward to the reviews! Let's hope in the tear down, the intel reference card is not held together with tape and glue!

[@deathfroude]

hope they are good mid range! more competition more better!

[@STUGZO]

Great work as always Steve!

[@janchovanec8624]

Thanks Steve.

[@My0wnSavi0r]

Much needed competition in the GPU market. hope they pull it all off.

[@GoldNargacuga]

dont underestimate casters. Ever get hood jumped by a group of casters? I still have PTSD from my last encounter.

[@oo-eu6qz]

lightning bolt lightning bolt sleep

[@Gustaviustwinkelberry]

Hood winked😉

[@davidmalkowski7850]

MEND BUTTCRACK

[@ISNEKO]

I'm still running a GTX 1080. This pricing is exciting.

[@200Percent.]

looks promising, hope they will have smooth launch we need more comp in the gpu market

[@Mcnooblet]

Promises of frames, just not very many of them. Yeah I noticed that too.

[@elchancho8432]

If it’s improvements from their last GPUs then awesome that’s good having more competition is good for consumers

[@giratina_86]

Im on time nice hope they are good

[@ruinzit9356]

I really want ARC to succeed. Love watching them all battle it out for our money. And hopefully bring down costs overall.

[@WhatIsTheMusicUsed]

Finally new GPU season is here!!!

[@creepersmate]

Hope the new CEO keeps making these GPUs

[@Hugh_I]

Well his job will be to evaluate where to invest to turn the ship around ASAP. I don't see that anything more than keeping their GPUs development on minimal life support so they can keep making decent APUs, would be a financially sound choice for Intel ATM. These cards at these prices are probably make them almost no margin, if at all, and the only chance to turn this profitable is to put serious money into it for at least two more gens to catch up with something that can compete with midrange cards of their competitors, while not being way more expensive to make. That is too long a time frame to sink money into if your goal is to get out of the red quick.

[@communistkanna5397]

Perfect upload timing

[@beetrootlife]

well its a scheduled release so the video goes public automatically by youtube

[@joeschmoe5009]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="340">5:40</a> "and theres the reroll" 😂

[@GamMngitSssEmoTionaL5953]

Thank you guys for all your Hard Work especially with the Deep Dives on the Scams and bad Work practices from Company's 🙏👌. Am Sure I can say from all of us Thank you 🙏👏 Truly inspire and inspiring. I hope to Yourself and All the Team have a lovely Christmas once it comes 🎄😎 . I do abit of photography/video editing and I understand how much effort goes into editing and how time consuming it can be just on a small scale let alone on your scale.Truly amazing Team 👏 Thanks for a other video 😎👌

[@SM121982]

I love the slow zoom when Steve goes into DnD mode. *edit* Just saw an identical comment from someone else. :D

[@fra.20_10]

Gaming Jesus is that you pls save the PC building community

[@atom608]

The marketing department for their Gpu's are actually quite good

[@ritwikbanerjee4968]

I honestly expected a bit more performance, but this should be fine as well if the drivers work

[@johnnyringo35]

These are there low end cards ...

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

@@johnnyringo35 So is the 4060 that they are comparing them to. And these Intel cards will be challenged not by the 4060 but the 5060 for most of their lifespan.

[@pjavilla]

If they're that cheap though I think people won't mind if the performance is a bit lower.

[@ritwikbanerjee4968]

@@pjavilla While I agree with that, it would have been better if the performance leaned closer to 7600xt/4060ti. Given that new gen is coming out soon, and especially given that Amd is probably going to be more competitive at lower/mid end, that would have made the deal much better.

[@rikkatakanashi2804]

@@thelegendaryklobb2879 The 5060 will probably be a scam at $350+ with 8gb vram and performance in between 4060 and 4060ti. I'm now actually hoping Nvidia to go nuts and price 50 series double that of the 40 series so that almost nobody buy them anymore.