Building a $500 Intel Gaming PC - 2023

[@LinusTechTips]

What do you guys think about our $500 build? Let us know below! Check out the Parts of this $500 Rig: Intel Core i3-13100F CPU: geni.us/ctkl ASRock B660M-HDV Motherboard: geni.us/mD5Ns Patriot Viper Elite II DDR4 3200MHz CL18 8GBx1 RAM: geni.us/yXyl0oB Intel 670p 512GB NVMe M.2 SSD: geni.us/LsAg DIYPC F2 Micro-ATX Case: lmg.gg/RWSoW Enermax CyberBron 500W 80+ Bronze PSU: lmg.gg/dS2h5 ASRock AMD Radeon RX6600 Challenger D GPU: lmg.gg/LwG9j Buy an ID-COOLING SE-214-XT CPU Cooler: geni.us/EUFXL Buy a Thermalright Assassin X 120 SE CPU Cooler: geni.us/HhYfVfZ Buy a Vetroo V5 CPU Cooler: geni.us/2Iylbpv Buy a SURALLOW NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Super GPU: geni.us/R0tHPa Buy a Gigabyte Radeon RX6600 Eagle GPU: geni.us/jbAca Buy a Seagate ST500DM002 500GB Hard Drive: lmg.gg/0PL2y Buy a Seagate ST1000DM003 1TB Hard Drive: lmg.gg/00uX6 Buy a Gioneda 257GB NVMe M.2 SSD: lmg.gg/qFyBs Buy an AMD Ryzen 5 7600 CPU: geni.us/BBSLeys Buy an AMD Ryzen 5 5600 CPU: geni.us/YVGO7G Purchases made through some store links may provide some compensation to Linus Media Group.

[@Water02]

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[@mzmknight]

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[@minepanda8537]

Plzzz give me a pc 😢😢

[@kristersd3867]

I think

[@_kaisetsu_]

@@kristersd3867 amazing vid

[@mr.cleanarchonoflight8120]

These videos always take me back to the good old days. Budget build videos are classic linus, and are just as important today as they used to be

[@FetusFight]

@@yokoyuhudo5060ou’re stupid. A budget build was my only way into pc gaming as a 14 year old with impoverished parents. Then that pc got gifted to another kid in a similar situation a few years later once I had cash flow.

[@warhawk3972]

​@@yokoyuhudo5060for those of us who don't have daddy's credit card, these videos are the complete opposite of wasteful

[@notinterested8452]

People are poorer even though prices skyrocketed.

[@isaacolukanni]

@@yokoyuhudo5060 Someone's dad left for the milk 💀

[@defeatSpace]

@@isaacolukanni but what if you leave dad for the milk?

[@darksinvampire]

It would be great if you could do builds for each price range; $750, $1000, $1250 and so on. It would be cool to see the comparisons.

[@RoximRox]

I think they've done something like that before, but it'd be neat to see an updated list post-pandemic shortages. Having that "if you can spend just a bit more, here's where you should do it" is useful to have when you don't know a ton about the tech landscape.

[@JetskiSlumpt]

Agreed! I think they may have done this another time around the 2000 series of Nvidia and I loved the comparisons. Would love to see another video like that.

[@cosmins3268]

You mean the Christmas builds they do every year?

[@MasterGoku21]

Once you pass the 1k mark, it doesn't really matter

[@MaXxProsTe]

I would like to see $350 range, because those was my "latest" builds (about 3/4 year ago)and it was paaaaaainfuuuul xD

[@pandazonium5349]

Always love the budget oriented builds

[@Mr.Morden]

Steam hardware survey agrees.

[@pandemicneetbux2110]

Yeah it's kind of like minmaxing your PC build. I mean player character. You've only got so high a level cap and stat points you can spend so how to make the cheapest, cheesiest, most OP character possible with what little you got. The definition of "play with the hand you're dealt, not the one you wish you'd been given."

[@sharn5559]

I would just buy a steam deck

[@sharn5559]

I would just buy a steam deck

[@loowick4074]

@@sharn5559 people who think a steam deck has even close too the raw power of a 500$ pc are delusional. Steam deck is portability. If you don't need portability. Get a pc.

[@YaknSnak82]

You basically built my PC. Only differences are the CPU i3-12100f, Case I got the Zalman S2 and a 16 gig dual channel 3200 Ram. I feel very good now about my build thank you LTT.

[@vexnity460]

the best thing you did was dual channel ram

[@wuki109]

Yours probably performs better than this one

[@ishowlightning4899]

What psu did you use can you please tell me all the parts used and recommendations

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[@RohanSanjith]

i3 processor sucks bro, I got ryzen 7 3700x absolute beast

[@SyberSycho]

This sort of budget build makes me miss Scrapyard Wars. Those were fun to watch.

[@zedekai9456]

They said it was boring and tired, but they should just run it like a gameshow and import qualified randos or celebs/internet celebs.

[@cavorka]

@@zedekai9456 It would have been boring to do during the Intel/nvidia hegemony. Now though....there are deals to be made!

[@Bangarang341]

Well you must've been excited

[@NoobSniper]

I know it would've gone over budget by like $20-30 but the dual channel 16GB of RAM would 100% be worth it for the stability and performance. Great build otherwise!

[@cobravids702]

T-force has the xtreem at 46$ for 2x8 SR b-die on newegg. Definitely worth it. They're also A2 PCBs and my mobo liked them much better than the 4000c15 gskill "bin" that I tried before. I'm able to run lower latency for sure. This the just the 3200c14 blue version btw

[@loganricherson]

Honestly, buying some used ram could've kept this under budget, though that wasn't within the scope of the video obviously

[@azeriusfrost]

true or even switching back to a 12100f as the 13100f is nearly identical in performance to the 12100f and still saving around $10 which could’ve been put to the ram

[@DemonSaine]

I would've gotten the ryzen 5500 instead of the 13100f. its like $15 cheaper and has 6 cores and 12 threads. a quad core in 2023 as a brand new system is a huge NO for me and while you may not be on the latest gen, you still have plenty of upgrade room up to a 16 core 5950x which will still be more than enough in the future. If you got $500 exactly to spend then I'd say its worth saving up another $10-$20 if necessary for dual channel which is REALLY cheap these days, there a silicon power 16gb kit 3200mt/s for literally $30. $5 more than what Linus spent on that single 8gb stick, and you would end up spending even more upgrading to another stick later than buying both in one package. If you can't save up $5 more then maybe a pc shouldn't be your priority imo lol

[@WayStedYou]

I would've 100% dive into the dumpster to get a crappy case instead of the pile of junk they ended up with if it meant getting dual channel memory now.

[@mrfalcon7871]

Honestly this is a lot more interesting than high budget builds

[@Wavepush]

High end builds are literally just maxing out your pcpartpicker list. Budget builds are where you're having to play tetris with your selections

[@powerfulshammy]

​​@@Wavepushhis is also not a budget build what would make this budget if he used AMD 5700G and not buy a overpriced GPU and spend it on ram now you have 100GB of VRAM

[@mocsmore1308]

@@powerfulshammy you good bro? sounds like you're having a stroke

[@250dpi9]

@@powerfulshammy tf r u talking bout

[@andrewbullen9730]

Restrictions breed creativity! If grabbing a case out of the literal e-waste pile will save you some money I am all for it. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. In that order of preference.

[@keerthan7558]

In times where youtubers suggest $1500 laptops and pcs for " students" and as " budget" pcs , linus is doing a great job. I love the practical approach . I'mma use this video as referenece in future when i'll build a pc

[@MAX-er4es]

But please get a better cpu, not an I3.

[@shlokshah5379]

​@@MAX-er4esit's a perfectly fine cpu. The 13 th gen Intel i3 can out perform 12 th gen i5 in many cases.

[@Angryblade000]

​@@MAX-er4esdon't gudge cause it's i3 bud

[@Sad_King_Billy]

I followed your $500 build guide from Christmas a few years ago because I wasn't sure if PC gaming was for me. Now I have a high-end rig and my niece games on the budget build. These videos are so good!

[@DemonSaine]

what was the budget build and what parts are your high end rig made of?

[@riblaglaunti1719]

Definitely would have been worth it even for the most extreme budget builds, you need that extra channel.

[@Sad_King_Billy]

@@DemonSaine budget - ryzen 1600/1650S/16gb ram.. high end - 5800X3D/3080ti/32gb ram

[@philipreininger2549]

12100f is around 95% of the 13100fs performance but often 10-20 bucks cheaper, get that and 16Gb of ram!! Dual channel and 16 gigs is soooo worth it for multitasking and just overall snappiness of the system. (Especially when it’s 15$more!)

[@fedepede04]

100% the lack of ram, that makes the computer to not run optimal.

[@MethodMain]

True, don't think 13100f is a good option while 12100f is still here

[@liftsalot]

Yeah, I bet that's why Doom was lagging. I find 16gigs to be limiting nowadays. Those 8 are prolly getting maxxed out 100% of the time.

[@Hickeroar]

Yeah, the miniscule capacity and lack of dual channel is one of the worst takes I've seen on this channel, ever.

[@Cryptonomous]

@@Hickeroar probably did it for the clicks and comments

[@mrdabeetle1]

I have this case (the purple one). Cable management using a non-modular psu is tricky, but doable. This case does come with mounting points for zip ties, which is good because you will use them all. You're going to want to get rid of the stock fans and replace them with anything really. The fans are quiet but are very low quality. The side panel window will scratch if you look at it too intently, so don't stare directly at it. The airflow is good. It's easy to clean.

[@brokenice420]

Ran this case for a couple years and loved its portability and cooling for a smaller form factor GPU (I had a 1660)

[@PureRiding]

exactly! had the white one and it impressed me for $25! Great airflow, and although it was tight, it was fairly easy to manage cables, even with a non mod psu like you mentioned. It will always have a place with me, even though it is no longer my favorite budget case. That award goes to the thermaltake versa h17. for $50 you get an incredible case. Psu shroud, plenty of cable room, plenty of drive space, great thermals, AND a full tempered glass panel! I'm just glad someone else enjoyed the diypc f2 though

[@draxrdax7321]

I have a similar case for 3 years or so, called "Zalman Z1 Neo". It has 2 120mm front fans and one 120mm back fan, with front dust filter and bottom PSU filter. Great buy for about 40$, if you can get over the fact that the metal sheet is so thin, you could probably punch through it (don't do what Linus did pushing with his knees on the right side panel, you'd probably fall through). The case is exactly the same except the plastic front looks different. The rest is the same: front panel has one USB 3, two USB 2 and audio jack plugs, acrylic left side panel, bumped-out right panel for cable management, fans connect through molex (they're very quiet and didn't have any issue with them for almost 3 years of uptime). Case cooling is great, i'm happy with it and don't regret buying it over something pricier.

[@azenyr]

A lot of smaller brands do rebrands of cases like this. I had one for years called NOX Hummer MC, not the exact same but very similar. I loved it to be fair. Very simple and straightforward but with actually a lot of flexibility. Don't underestimate cheap cases. For the CPU power cable that he said there was no routing for it, there is, just like all cheap cases you are supposed to get it BEHIND the motherboard and have it come out of the big backplate hole behind the board. Yes you need to pass this cable before putting your motherboard in the case. But with some effort these cases can still get great cable management. My current case is the famous Corsair 5000D Airflow. 200€. Apart from the design and build quality, in terms of features to be honest I don't think it is much better than that NOX 30€ one. If you don't care about having a sleek high end looking case, just buy a 50-100€ case. That's the sweet spot for PC cases.

[@draxrdax7321]

@@azenyr Same for the Zalman one i have, it has a cut corner to the top left where you can pass the CPU power connector through from the back panel side, but you have to do it before you mount the motherboard, otherwise it won't fit through. I changed my PSU recently and had to take out the mobo to fit it in.

[@ifwcorvids]

I really like the approach you guys took to this build, getting a machine that just works and then upgrading it later is much more realistic for most people than dropping a ridiculous amount of money on a pc at once

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[@DimitriMoreira]

The lack of dual channel is literally the reason it's choking. It matters a lot on a budget. Literally countless articles about this since forever.

[@Daniel-Angell]

Yeah. And 8gb is too low. If you’re building this please just spend the extra $10 on a second stick of ram.

[@squidwardo7074]

@@Daniel-Angell RAM is crazy cheap these days, 16gb is necessary for a lot of games. Even 32gb isn't that much more than 16 edit: also I really wish linus would test more hard to run games or games that are more ram intensive (when he builds budget pcs with low ram) because that would be a better test than games that can run on a potato

[@SergeantQuackersThe2nd]

Exactly. Don't see how not going for 16GB in dual channel is a good idea. You can get them in DDR4 for less than £50 brand new. Hell, I seen them go for less than £40 a couple of times now. Worth getting it just right the first time so you don't have to worry in the future.

[@TheBlaze267]

yea i think when linus said im going off book. i think he forgot about the single stick of ram.

[@toastythings3040]

Yep its not the intel 4 core. Although it is utilized in a high percentage doesnt mean it is bottlenecking frames. Rocking the i3-12100 with RTX 3060Ti myself, and there is no bottleneck at all in 1440p

[@iggysixx]

I love this. 'The stock cooler is fine'... 'The M-ATX standard hasn't changed, so feel free to scavenge a case'.. Yes. Just yes.

[@adammarcinkowski-ko3el]

I did that when I last time upgrated my PC ... I admit I have same PC case since 2001 , but next PC upgrate I need to buy new case .

[@ExperimentIV]

@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el meanwhile i’m looking for a beige case for a stealth build

[@adammarcinkowski-ko3el]

@@ExperimentIV Look for used cases , that look vintage , and paint it them beige and make it look "vintage" , for me who use 2001 , for new PC there are some limitations = airflow I literally have made two holes for fans in side of my panel ... , I plan to get GTX 1080ti 11gb for my PC and that gpu need good airflow , so I bought used coler master big tower 13.2kg case its huge , have big fans allover = will keep pc cold , in next few days I will "mod" that case = paint it mate black , and get rid of rgb fans and replace it with better ones withou rbg ... but if I would do stealth build I would go for old 486 case from 90", those are boxy beige = all you dreaming of :)

[@The_real_Jaytonix]

“Theres not much left in the way of bad motherboard brands” Asus: *nervous sweating*

[@mrchinosofexodar]

Aged like crappy wine

[@omniyambot9876]

No warranties sorry😂

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Please buy us, we'll give you roasted delicious 6D CPUs.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

@@omniyambot9876 we now have the antithesis to Dell's infinite warranties

[@kijijin7100]

i'm building my first pc, and hearing someone say that 90 fps is "pretty playable" is kinda funny when im used to like 20 fps on low settings on my terrible laptop from like 2013

[@jakobmax3299]

I think you totaly could have gone for 16 gb if youd had chosen the 12100f, which is still totaly fine, and would also have eliviated possible problems with bios update.

[@MlordSlav]

i get that ltt wants to provide an uptodate system guide with new parts but youre an idiot if you build a system for 500 dollars and not buy stuff used, yes it comes with risk but modern parts dont tend to just sketch out after a while unless the ebay seller damaged it themselves a used part should last just as long as a new part

[@jakobmax3299]

@@MlordSlav the 12100f is a new part, and the extra price is not worth the small performance uplift.

[@tarkitarker0815]

@@MlordSlav you buy the 5500 NEW or the 12100f NEW you still spend 20 bucks less either case.

[@netronet1383]

That's a pretty darn good budget build. Loved it. Thanks for doing these budget builds again.

[@travesm5054]

Hey Linus, you should do a "2nd hand" build to compare to this! Find the best 2nd hand components while still sticking to the $500 budget. That would be interesting.

[@enderduck4253]

It could be entertaining, but it's less applicable as a guide.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

I think doing 2nd hand build with average priced 2nd hand components would be more fair. You can find great deals if you're willing to wait half a year for the best 2nd hand GPU but if you want to make it easy and fast, you have to pay more for the components in 2nd hand market, too.

[@bonniscootor]

@@MikkoRantalainen I mean...I just built a Ryzen 7 5800X ($175 second-hand) with a 2080S ($260 second-hand), Fractal Design case $(60 second-hand), Strix B550 Wifi ($80 second-hand) and 32GB of 4000mhz DDR4 ($40 second-hand) for like, $600...The second-hand market is literally all over the place, dependent on where you live at. I find it pretty doubtful that you could get a comparable 4k DLSS ray-tracing rig for a similar price in many places lol

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@bonniscootor Your local market is pretty cheap if you can get 2080 Super for $260. It would be more like $310 here.

[@bonniscootor]

@Mikko Rantalainen Well, it's really weird here. You have people selling rigs with i7 4770k and GT730 for $800 and then people selling PCs with Ryzen 7 3800X and 1080ti for $500... Arkansas is a weird place.

[@NAFO_Turtle]

6:30 don’t cool your cpu, heat up your dog

[@lionvader]

wow linus. Videos like this were the reason i got into this topic many years ago, and i'm sure many others have the same feeling. i am really happy for the younger generation to get into this universe of pc's - thank you for such an down to earth level video, without any 10k lab equipment involved

[@danielhansen9587]

I always appreciate your budget build guides!

[@sebastianvangen]

Thanks Linus for keeping the budget builds alive.

[@zoofology]

I don't always understand everything that goes on in every video, but I at least ALWAYS appreciate the production quality. And 1440p uploads are just icing on the cake for me. Thank you so much for your attention to detail and high quality standards.

[@SirSicCrusader]

I have 3 ryzen 5500s deployed in my house (2 for the kids one for the media centre pc) and frankly those are pretty wild bang for the buck.

[@lilsammywasapunkrock]

This, there are quite a few 6 core 12 thread am4 choices that would perform better and would save $20-40 dollars, allowing dual channel 16gb ram and a 1tb SSD. Intel does give you an easier upgrade path with all the 13th gen stuff, but am4 is still competitive against a $100 4 core.

[@Sasageyo-oj5ph]

Rx 6600 is definitely a monster when it comes to value proposition, such a solid card

[@brandonjones2700]

I have a rx 6650 xt and it's faster than my lil bros rtx 3060 and was around $100 cheaper when I bought it

[@Sasageyo-oj5ph]

@@brandonjones2700 exactly, I lose out on ray tracing, but keep a ton of money lol that’s a win in my book

[@nikolamanasijevic5794]

​@@Sasageyo-oj5phand you also get garbage drivers that can't run most games without stutters

[@Sasageyo-oj5ph]

@@nikolamanasijevic5794 I’ve never had any issues like that out of it tbh

[@anasevi9456]

A good amount of people have bought them for the equivalent of 80-120USD on the used market at times here in Australia... That has to be a recordholder for frames per/$$$ that wasnt a complete fluke.

[@plasmathunderdx]

0:27 really thought he was gonna say "like how we're gonna tell you about our sponsor!"

[@Kakascrot]

There's a shop in the UK called Cex that sell used goods including PC parts, the prices are similar to used prices on eBay and everything comes with a 2 year warranty

[@bradleys6646]

I'm actually using the Ryzen 5 5600 in my rig and I bought it when the price bottomed out last year at just $100USD. This cpu is a great value for gaming with almost the same performance as its big brother the Ryzen 5 5600x.

[@Travthememer]

same man the 5600g was perfect for me cause gpu's were still iffy to find reasonable. but as someone gaming on a i3 laptop not made for gaming it was fine if not better than what i was used to

[@notme222]

Yeah that's a good choice. I was going to get the 5600 but didn't pull the trigger. Now I want the 7600 but it's not coming down in price. So who knows when I'll finally get around to upgrading. In the meantime I'm way behind on an i5-4670k.

[@adamfarmer7665]

I have 5600 with rtx 3080 on 4k monitor. I have no Issues with games, and I won't be upgrading for at least 3-5 years. 5600 is pretty good for its price.

[@bradleys6646]

@@notme222 I could have waited for the 7600 to upgrade but I don't like being an early adopter on a new platform. They had plenty of time to work the kinks out of the AM4 platform before I bought in. I don't mind being behind 1 generation if it means saving money and having less bugs. Hell I didn't switch to AM4 until my FX-8350 literally wouldn't be able to support Windows.

[@GLDragon93]

@@notme222 I pensioned my Xeon E3 1240v2 (i7 3770) for a 5600 because I knew the 7600 wouldn't come down in price at all, along with the ddr5 high cost while ddr4 was and still going down in price. Ended up spending about 380€ for good b550 mobo,cpu,16gb ram 3600 cl16,1tb nvme, cpu cooler while reusing my old (but gold) case and the rx 5600xt I picked up last year. Considering that I would had to spend almost twice for a similar but newer build, I'm more than happy spending those almost 400€+something else for a future gpu upgrade and move to 1440p .

[@toodlelux]

It’s been a while since we got some old fashioned targeted build guides on LTT. Love it.

[@Wayhoo]

This is genuinely the perfect video. Thanks to you Linus, I'm building my very first gaming PC today with the same budget.

[@jo54763]

Godspeed

[@tarkitarker0815]

please DONT buy the parts he did, buy a cheap b350 board that is compatible with ryzen 5000, get 16 gb of ram get a 5500 and spend the extra on getting an xt version, also if you are in europe or australia you probably will have to buy another psu.

[@zuzukyd]

Good luck with any modern demanding game.

[@summushieremiasclarkson4700]

I will reiterate, you can do things Linus can't in a professional video, so hunt around for deals. Open box, used whatever. I managed to build a 7700x/6750xt build for $750 (coincidence?). Microcenter always has great sales on if you're in the US.

[@dankbongripper730]

​@@tarkitarker0815 could u provide links for everything you've listened?

[@enovale]

PSA to anyone getting this case: I use this case in my Server PC with a GTX 1060 in it for video encoding, and I have issues with the GPU fan being extremely close to the PSU enclosure. I had to put a power cable under it so sometimes it ends up rattling against the fan and obviously damaging it slowly. Watch out for any weird noises the computer may make.

[@thelowelozed4080]

It would be cool see if linus and team can try and do the $500 gaming pc in CAD, would be interesting what the differences between the builds would be.

[@TheUnofficialMaker]

i agree

[@Bogdan100pink]

that's 371 dollars, I don't think it would be a fun build, it would be basically "We got everything second hand except for the power supply"

[@carabooseOG]

You’d get a steaming pile of garbage lol

[@thelowelozed4080]

but could it play crisis ? lol

[@username8644]

As someone else commented, that's called buying used parts.

[@SkateEverythingProject]

It made me really happy that I just built almost the exact same machine for myself and I needed it to be as cheap as I could get. I did end up going with a used 5700 XT that I found for $130. Honestly I'm shocked at how good the thing performs.

[@furiosgamar8926]

I just found a comment with no replies. I am 11 hours late as I am in Sri Lanka. We love those.

[@quanghuyvu2649]

I'm glad your 5700xt is still working, $130 smells like a scam but you did it

[@SkateEverythingProject]

@@quanghuyvu2649 Right!!? I was suuuuper nervous because it was an ebay find and but it's been great so fingers crossed...

[@tarkitarker0815]

should have gotten a 5500 with a non used 6600.

[@tarkitarker0815]

@@quanghuyvu2649 well i wouldnt say that there are rtx 2060´s going for 20 more.

[@Alxium]

After the great GPU shortage, it is so nice to see you can get a very capable card for just $200. Not to mention that the 6600XT is now only $200 at some places (Micro Center). I also think the Intel A750 might also be a worth a shot as well, also around $200.

[@ljlk8583]

this^^^^ I'm actually making a budget build right now and was trying to decide between the a750 and the 6600-/6600xt. Which one would work better, do you think?

[@defaultdan7923]

i actually got an a750 for 160 from micro center (insane that that’s even possible now). while i can’t vouch for a 6600xt, the a750 has been performing really well for me, with minimal hiccups.

[@GurpreetSingh-ix6jy]

remember 1 thing arc a750 tdp is 225w while rx 6600 having just 125w so to chose Arc you have to upgrade your PSU also while RX 6600 Should work fine with 450W and 500W 80+ PSU's @@ljlk8583

[@stolenchaser]

@@ljlk8583 get the 6600/6600 xt, much better performance and drivers and productivity.

[@philiprobar]

Linus: “There’s not much left in the way of bad motherboards.” ASUS: “Hold my beer.”

[@Titanium_Man]

I was thinking the same thing

[@potato8276]

I love watching budget builds like these.

[@MrStrangermoon]

@@yokoyuhudo5060 no disc drive = e waste on future. doesnt matter how spend on pc . if your pc case not have disc drive slot and pc gaming not get bluray support e waste for future. unless you make cracked games with external hard disk.

[@1tsUrDad]

I always love watching the vids with more budget friendly things. Seeing top of the line is cool, but sometimes it’s nice getting to watch stuff I can actually afford lol

[@tatem2733]

You guys should do a video, seeing how well all your different 500 dollar builds hold up today in a set spread of games

[@ckg-CaribbeanKnight]

That FPS lag is definitely due to the single stick of RAM. Dual Channel 16GB would clear most of the lag. Also 8GB for modern games will lower the 1% FPS to very poor numbers. Even more so when online play is involved. Nice build with the intel Chip.

[@seanthenetworkguy8024]

Linus: 2:10 "There no such thing as bad motherboard brands nowadays" Asus: "Watch this"

[@supraken123]

Best part about budget oriented low power builds is always the quietness of it all. My first rig I built in 2017 was dead silent at full load I kinda miss it.

[@MrStrangermoon]

on 2017 i3 with 1050 was cheaper and out peform xbox one and ps4 greatly. but now you cant event get i3 and 3050 on 500 and there is console 300 dollar series s with gamepass. plus pc games bad ports and worst they 70 dollar too even pc not have blue ray drive. bocuse that 10 dollar rise coming from game ultra bluray disc. games become 100gb and you can only get 250g ssd on build stuck with 2 games . preying windows 11 not update automatcly. it cant be worser future. not the mention ray tracing performance not even good 60s gpus you stuck with bad ray tracing amd card. not the mention and that prety low this budget case not have disc drive slot eve you get dvd drive 5 bucks. bcosue 5 bucks left on build. on 2017 aaa pc games was still coming dvds despite steam users screams about it. now pc games not come dvd and they dont intend to blueray. even they do intend blueray dive still not cheap on pc and and funny again this case or any case on pc ostly not disc drive slot front. doenst matter budget or not.

[@TheMikeyb86]

Been so busy with work, life, vacation that I haven't had time for Ltt in months. Budget build? I ALWAYS have time for those videos.

[@mikejmcfarlane]

feels like there is more emphasis on pc builds again on the channel, like it. love seeing all types of build from budget to unobtainable :-)

[@MorbidMemes]

I really love these budget builds, It PROVES that you don't always need more than 1000 dollar's to start PC gaming, everyone can game no matter your budget!

[@Swampthing401]

this video literally proves you DO need 1000.00 to start pc gaming. that pc is a potato. plus doesn't include mouse, keyboard or monitor. its a bigtime waste of money . can get a better performing ps5 for less

[@Inquisite1031]

budget builds are a waste of money, just buy a decent pc that will last u 5-8 years u will save a lot more money than just buying a budget one that gets outdated in a year or 2.

[@RayanMADAO]

​@The Outdoor Voice what where does it show that? It does everything fine and if you spend 15 dollars more for dual channel 16gb it's even better

[@lewis0705]

@@Swampthing401 depends what games you wanna play. if youre gonna be playing halo, cod, or any games that are on console, then yeh just get a console. but there are so many pc exclusive games (and remember you dont have to use the pc just for gaming)

[@RayanMADAO]

​@@Swampthing401 calling it a potato is elitist and just wrong. I have a 12100f, 2060 and dual channel 16gb and it works perfectly fine. I get 240 fps in overwatch and can even stream gameplay just fine.

[@NuggetsXInfinite]

Pretty good build. The dark days of $500 integrated graphics COVID PCs are over. Near me I could fit a 6700XT in this budget due to them flooding the used market for cheap.

[@gabrielm.942]

Makes you think about the profit margins on those budget prebuilts on Amazon that being sold for 500$ but have 10+ year old stuff in it.

[@SHzmc0]

The thing that I like about LTT is that even though they have a budget and can always do expensive builds. They always make sure to include all their viewers in their builds.

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[@pepe-zw4de]

I think a $750 build could be very interesting in what options it opens up

[@JakeTaco83]

Better GPU witht that same CPU would do better because could play at higher resolutions. I have the 12100f and a770 16gb and play at 1440p or 4k and CPU doesnt bottleneck at those resolutions. Also have more ram. I feel a $750 build is very capable since the GPUs have dropped.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

That basically allows for going with a better GPU. The old rule of thumb still seems to work: use half of your total budget on GPU.

[@canadious6933]

@@JakeTaco83 However as stated, even in the current build the CPU was bottlenecking the build already. So that should be upgraded if you go for a higher gpu

[@dirad219]

this build cost 720$+ in my country 🙃

[@aztronomy7457]

Right. At $500 just buy a series X. 4k 60 with optimized games. Only get a gaming PC if you’re going to spend $750-1000+

[@svpracer98]

I got a 5700x for just under $200 in October... Looking at current pricing trends, I'm glad my new rig was built with plenty of performance overhead as I'm expecting it to last 4+ years...

[@scoscgaming]

With that level of processor, 4+ years should be no problem. RAM and GPU will probably become an issue faster than the processor. Good choice!

[@svpracer98]

@@scoscgaming 32gb of ram, and a 3080... I'm sure the 3080 will start working harder a lot sooner than anything else in my system.

[@scoscgaming]

@Svpracer98 What I mean is that the speed and quantity of RAM, and the quantity of VRAM generally seems to be more limiting in the long run when compared to processor performance. I see and hear about more RAM and GPU upgrades than I do processor

[@olwynskye417]

Before I'm going to build a backup/randomcrap server for myself, I will definitely head to local recycling locations for some scraps. I used to work in a small recycling facility breaking down and repairing stuff that came in and there were some pretty good memory sticks, CPUs, coolers, power supplies, fans, cases, monitors/TVs etc, to salvage for cheap. Also got a decent amount of Windows 10 Pro keys that still worked so no need to spend extra on a new license. In those places people rarely know anything about computers so you can pretty much get anything by how much they weight instead of their real value.

[@kielbasamage]

I’m assuming I can’t just walk in and ask if I can scrounge like some kind of raccoon?

[@olwynskye417]

@@kielbasamageDepends on the place. Most that I've gone to here in Finland allow people to walk in the office and ask if they happen to have whatever you're looking for. They usually just care about collecting the aluminum, copper and gold from computers so I don't see why they would care about few computer parts. Maybe check their website or call before showing up. 🤔

[@kairon156]

Nice video. It's been a while since I needed a budget computer from the ground up so it was cool seeing this example. I love the idea that computer components can be upgraded and switched out over time. Ideally I try to get the minimum of what I need computer wise than I'm not in a rush when upgrading parts so I can wait for good deals or better products later on.

[@longcat266]

A 12100f and 16gb of ram would probably have been the better choice when the performance difference between the 13100 and 12100 is so minimal.

[@PolanaAnurag]

Same thing I was wondering. Almost no difference except a couple 100 mhz boost clock for 13100 over 12100. 16 gb ram would be much better, and sometimes it does improve gaming performance.

[@JustSomeDinosaurPerson]

That was what I thinking as well. They should have gotten a 12100F since it is the same socket and gotten 16 GB of RAM.

[@TechProFury]

Ryzen 5 3600

[@RadChromeDude]

there's people still using intel 9th and even 8th gen cpus... some use even older generations! weird that they didn't use 12th gen, to consider that outdated is quite a stretch.

[@IOUaUsername]

That's what I did in my build. Exactly the same as this but 12100F and 16GB. There are frequently apps or games that either require more than 8GB or need to be three only thing running with that little RAM. I tend to leave my browser open to keep what I was doing while gaming, and I still got warnings that my RAM was running out before I upgraded up 32GB when the same sticks I used were going cheap recently.

[@sidharthat]

i loved some of the choices in the build today! also,something i noticed on the framework marketplace, there was a "merch" section. i'd love to see what thats about

[@drstatick]

The Asus Rx 6600 is an amazing value gpu. I have it runs really really well. It feels like its price is way too low for its performance.

[@BakedPotato05]

The price can never be too low 😅😁

[@lupulasco]

It runs any AAA games even on high settings, I just played The Last of Us on High at 55-60+fps with the last update, now I'm playing RE 4 in Ultra at 80+ fps, I could have better performance if I upgrade my Ryzen 2600 to a 5600. (I have the Gigabyte Eagle 6600)

[@flamingscar5263]

I definitely would have gone for 16GBs ram minimum, even if it means less storage or a used GPU 8GBs leaves 0 room for any sort of multi tasking at all

[@t3ch_n0]

The RX 6000 series is a no brainer right now, the price to performance is back where it should be. As someone who bought an RX 6650 XT about a month ago I couldnt be much happier for 250 bucks, it runs games at 1440p like no tomorrow. (not sure if i just got lucky but my thermaltake smart bm2 is holding up fine as a power supply, the pc still turns on *knock on wood* )

[@noticing33]

The 6600 gpus are the news rx 570 580s, and will be replaced by worthy successor, the rx 7600 which will release for 279$

[@pshyis]

I wanted to get a 6650 xt a few months ago to upgrade from my 580 but sadly here a 6650 xt sets you back 500 ish

[@t3ch_n0]

@@noticing33 Thatd be even better. Im impatient so I couldnt be bothered waiting for a 7600. I just decided to pull the trigger on the 6650 XT, and to be honest I dont think ill be looking for any upgrades for a few years, 1440p at 165hz on high/ultra is PLENTY of power for me.

[@noticing33]

@@t3ch_n0 yep, last gpu was rx580 got in 2017, upgraded to 6600 as well in Feb, got 3 for £162each on ebay, all set for another 5ish years, imagine how cheap current high end will be then ahhaha

[@t3ch_n0]

@@noticing33 Its amazing how much better value you can get from modern midrange/older high end cards rather than just buying the top of the line newest thing. Good luck on those cards, I hope they last!

[@luciobazzani855]

The case back panel looks like my baking tray , so you can also use it to bake cookies 🍪

[@MrEdispilf]

6600 is a solid choice! I use mine with a 5600, triple displays, one of which is 1440p. Elden Ring somehow gets 70ish FPS on high@ 1440p, and MH:W(getting old, but still fun) gets about the same.

[@chandanadas_]

I wanna see Linus doing the same in $1200-1300 price range. It would be way harder and fun to see as well.

[@Camtcan]

How would it be harder?

[@AbcdEf-lz6oe]

@@CamtcanMore choices from everyone

[@Camtcan]

@AbcdEf-lz6oe I guess but I feel like I would know exactly what to get and be done with choosing the parts in like an hour

[@riteshvyas5539]

​@@Camtcan the choices are more in that price range, Intel and AMD both have good CPUs, Nvidia and AMD both have equal pros and cons. If you go with the last gen AMD cpu you cannot use ddr5, If you go with intel cpu the power consumption will make your pc a good heater and won't support future generation cpu etc...

[@scraps7624]

@@Camtcan More options means more tradeoffs, better CPU or more memory? Or save for a better GPU? It's definitely less straightforward

[@bonk2065]

13:25 that tf2 domination noise. David is too funny lol

[@formenterajoshual]

realized that when you're too good on doing some things, you're passion fades away,like this one

[@waynerowlinson6177]

For that price, I would probably go for the Ryzen 5 5500. It's about $20 cheaper and the motherboard price is comparable. Future proof is not there as much, but this isn't the type of system that someone will end up putting a 16 core CPU with a 4090 in it down the road anyways. You would get a better stock fan, and have a few precious dollars to upgrade the RAM. The idea of re-using an old case is a very good one, and in some cases, the PSU may be decent as well. Like you said though, if the power supply goes, it might take out some your other components with it. I love your low-budget videos (the cost of components, not video quality, lol).

[@Quizack]

Exactly what I just said. The 5500 is $20 cheaper, so that extra stick of RAM could have been bought. Also the MSI B450M Pro-VDH MAX is another $10 cheaper which could have gone to a better PSU possibly, or at least another fan.

[@tarkitarker0815]

@@TotallySlapdash well no hate, but a 5500 crushes the 3700x. with pbo its about 5-10% faster in rendering. wasnt that good sadly.

[@adr2t]

@@tarkitarker0815 Just means you can upgrade to the 5000s later on if you did. I had the 3700x for a while didnt really run into any issues for both gaming and work loads. If you can snag it a a good price, it would still be consider "good enough" for a while longer.

[@lilsammywasapunkrock]

​@@tarkitarker0815 does rendering only use a single core? That is the only thing I see as "better" compared to the 3700x.

[@tarkitarker0815]

@@lilsammywasapunkrock no it doesnt, the 5500 is just so much faster that it completly negates the 2 cores more the 3700x has. the single core of an 5000 ryzen is 20-35% faster. you can cinebench them, 5500 will win.

[@chrisd4813]

These budget builds inspired me to do one for myself. I built a machine with a used 5600x, 16gb RAM, b550 board, 1tb M2 SSD (plus a new 2tb one for good measure..), a used 3080 ti and a new case/psu which I only got because I managed to get mates rates on the 3080ti and didn’t have the space or psu room for the monster. originally I was planning for a used 6800xt. Yes it’s not quite as budget, but I spent $1700 NZD on a build that if I had gone all new, would have easily crossed 3500NZD, even with the last gen GPU..

[@meneermankepoot]

As if a "last gen" 3080ti isnt good enough lol

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

​@@meneermankepoot still using a 1060

[@chrisd4813]

@@meneermankepoot never said it wasn’t, I just wasn’t planning to go that high end 😂

[@christopherneufeldt4035]

love the build and it's great to see what you can still get when you sort of "go back to basics." Regarding the CPU cooler thing. I am in full agreement with just using the cooler the cpu comes with. I could have done that with my Ryzen 3700. Only reason I changed was the fan size caused a tone that my hearing couldn't deal with. Changing the cooler just meant the fan was bigger, and ran at a slower speed/produced different tones that I was ok with hearing. I saw maybe a 1 or 2 degree decrease in cooling, but that was it.

[@connorryland5424]

shoutout to the editors! great work. love the captions!

[@hunt0583]

2024 update soon?

[@RifterDask]

The 6600 series are outstanding cards, particularly the XT. Crazy good frames for the money at 1080p and solid performance in 1440p too. Also, the driver suite is way better than team green in terms of UX right now. Not even close.

[@RohanSanjith]

But it couldn't multitask like my ryzen 7 3700x

[@TheZerovirus1000]

I think people apreciate the 500 category because everyone knows what the high end and high value components are, but you really need to dig and make the numbers to know what's the best value on such a small budget. It also creates a base line: "you should not be going lower or worst that this"

[@smudgeyt1093]

Just watched your stepping g down video and just wanted to say how much I’ve enjoyed your videos, glad to see you honoring your values

[@Juncti]

Would be interesting to see some builds at higher price points, like if you could swing $750 we'd swap these parts for these parts, or 1k and we'd add these parts. To show more areas where things could be tweaked and improved to match a higher budget if you can swing it.

[@aspiealex9710]

If you want to save a little more on the cpu the ryzen 5 5500 is going for under $90 rn, 6 core 12 thread and depending on the game it goes blow to blow with that i3

[@catgirlconnoisseur1024]

I second this. Have built a few of my friends systems with a 5500, paired with an rx6650. Good build for a little more than this system

[@axelsundelin4171]

Love the way you guys clearly show each step with extra footage!

[@hyun-shik7327]

My first build in 2016, which also got me into this channel, was basically the period-appropriate version of this, except I sacrificed the dedicated graphic card for much more storage because basically the only game I played at the time was Minecraft.

[@victinim2512]

8:56 the only reason I have a GTX 1660 in my PC is because I don't. I have a CMP 30HX with modified drivers so it runs like a 1660 like god intended.

[@arturcardoso4426]

Couple of months ago i got my first pc. Coming from an asus laptop that ran chrome os because windows 10 was too much, it's a blast. Here in Brazil, R$4500 ($900 usd) got me a ryzen 5 4500, an rx6600 non-xt, 16gb of dual channel 3200mhz ram with an a-320 gigabyte mobo, a 240gb m.2, a dodgy psu and a good looking case, filtered intakes and tempered glass pannels. For 1080p very high/ultra 60fps gaming? man, it's freaking awesome. The only thing that makes me sad is, posting this build on PCMR or other subs, north americans just can't understand that this is roughly 4 months of minimum wage here, so saying it sucks and it's a budget build... it really is sad for my reality. i could only wish i could get this parts reliably on 2nd hand markets, maybe spring for better parts but hey, i didn't choose to be born here :|

[@blue_flame_art]

congrats on your build! also from south america and hoping to save enough to build my first pc this year

[@EngelAguilar]

So true man, it's the same in my country, some people can't understand that xD "you can get X, Y and Z with that amount" lmao not here

[@Gofishinmore]

At this point I know how to build a PC and I've built three, thanks to Linus. but for some reason I still LOVE these simple builds that he does.

[@nickbrosniper2243]

I have the same case and I figured out you can actually put the smaller motherboard power cable through the back right above the motherboard.......only catch is you have to put it in before you screw the motherboard on

[@evergloam1]

This is great, reminds me of building my first PC, a Intel G3258 and 750ti system that at the time cost me little under $500 at the time. Crazy to see what performance you can get for $500 today.

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[@OliNotPRO]

Can a ultimate pc upgrade guide exist? Because its a bit more confusing then building form scratch. Especially with older pc's

[@aeio722]

1:53 You got me there

[@ph11p3540]

You can never buy too big of a PC case and power supply. My 20 year old supertower of a PC case finally met its match and needed a replacement just to handle the modern CPU cooling and graphics cards. Those new AIO water cooling kits are real monsters

[@token3462]

7:53 Anthony Went Bald!!! 😳

[@hycron1234]

"AMD has abandoned the loyal customers that kept them alive during the bad years" ... sounds like history might be repeating itself.

[@d-man422]

would have loved to see the arc a750 mentioned really, for it being a good value in the low price tier

[@lps8216]

It preforms great too

[@lps8216]

@@bradhaines3142 they run pretty good now in most stuff

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@lps8216 not old stuff, and main problem is unstable performance depending on the game.... nobody wants their GPU to be putting out 100fps in Tomb Raider but hitting 30FPS in Cyberpunk for example great value but it's still for thinkerers and not as first build PCs

[@lps8216]

@@jesusbarrera6916 ik old stuff not problem ive used arc before

[@danz107]

My "budget" PC, if you will, is a Dell Inspiron with a 9th Gen Intel i3, an additional 8gb RAM (totaling 16), and a GTX 1650. It works... Running Elden Ring at nearly 60fps in 1080p high settings. I'm my case, it's using what I had. Upgrading the RAM and graphics made a ton of difference in it's ability.

[@tylersanders2388]

I would definitely skimp on the ssd and get a 2.5 inch and get the 16gb ram, but I would also go majority used parts in this price range

[@jordanlazarus7345]

16 gigs is certainly the minimum for gaming in my opinion, and even then I flat out had games that would crash on 16 if I had my browser and discord open. 32 is the sweet spot on a medium-high end build for sure, there's just no need to intentionally let your computer slow down from having apps open because you don't have enough RAM.

[@squidwardo7074]

I would just save for another week and buy both of those and the SSD

[@StefanTPunkt]

@@squidwardo7074 thats what i said aswell. You will have this setup for many many years. Take any shitty job you can find to get the extra 50 Dollars you need for the 2nd 8 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD. It is worth it

[@tylersanders2388]

@@squidwardo7074 I would save for another month or two and buy an $800 system

[@tylersanders2388]

@@rustler08 that’s against the spirit of a fixed budget. You can always spend a few more dollars to get something just a bit better all the way up to basically $2000 where you start to see diminishing returns

[@vidrogic1499]

From gaming at simmilar specs for quite some time, my best upgrade was dual chanel 16GB of ram. It makes a huge difference in modern titles. I would love from you to try to test games that this PC struggles with so you can comment on which upgrade would be needed.

[@Neoxon619]

A 6600 might actually be good enough for a solid chunk of current-gen games.

[@waltch5711]

its solid for any pc game

[@borbis6723]

Heck yeah. I'm running the exact GPU seen in this video paired with an i5 11400, and it crushes pretty much everything I've thrown at it (with the exceptions of Black Mesa and No Man's Sky, with Black Mesa's issues being caused by Source Engine's high CPU usage. No Man's Sky only really has issues at Ultra.) Also struggles a bit with Minecraft running shaders, but that's because I have to run the game natively at 1440p since AMD Adrenaline is incompatible with Java Edition, so no upscaling.

[@chaffix8459]

It is. The 6600 is pretty solid value.

[@tarkitarker0815]

lmao a 6600 will play any game atleast at 1080 80fps+ high settings.

[@FlummoxTheMagnificent]

You can get a 6-core 3.9 ghz CPU with iGPU for $120 from the Ryzen 5 5600G

[@joelarnold2394]

Personally, I'd have gone with a Ryzen 5 5500 instead - this is basically the same price as the i3-13100F and gives very similar performance in gaming benchmarks. You could have saved around $30-40 on a A520M gaming motherboard then which still has DDR4 OC support, and it would have given you enough left over for an extra 8GB stick of RAM so you can run 16GB in dual channel mode 🙂

[@joelarnold2394]

@@rustler08 I know it's an Intel build, but claiming that this is the best value new gaming build on a budget of $500 is a bit off the mark. Ryzen 5000 series can still be bought brand new at the moment, and that 8GB single channel memory is going to really kill performance compared to 16GB dual channel. And to top it off, the included AMD Wraith cooler is WAY better than what Intel include with their low end CPUs 🙂

[@leonro]

Even better: if he wanted a modern platform with a good upgrade path, he could have simply gone for a 12th gen i3. Those are a bit cheaper now than 13th gen and would allow for a dual channel 16gb kit.

[@MitternachtAngel]

@@joelarnold2394 it is better, because you can get a much better upgrade. An i5 13600k beat the r7 5800x like nothing and you still have the i7 13700k as an option.

[@joelarnold2394]

@@MitternachtAngel There's no way I'd be putting an i5-13600k in that cheapo case - you'd have absolutely no chance of cooling it efficiently. Plus the GPU you'd pair with it, and PSU upgrade... You are looking at $1000+ of upgrades there, it's better just to start again if you want to build something like that. I really don't think that's who this video is aimed at...

[@GLDragon93]

@@joelarnold2394 Not just the case, look at that mobo its vrm would simply start to melt if you put anything better than a 12400f.

[@yupimrandy]

I've been wanting to build a PC with my nephew for him and this is just the video I needed. Thanks!

[@dnbmania]

@@yokoyuhudo5060 woke patrol

[@asv952]

IMO the true budget will be still an AMD APU system, but in this case I would prefer to up the CPU to i5 or went AMD and the ram to dual channel 16GB, and buy the Ali Express RX 6600M (has 90% performance of RX 6600 and 1 year warranty) which cost around $150-$170. For the case I can probably scrap one from my workplace or my friend, and in worst case I can go no case and put it on top of my motherboard box until next month.

[@shanez1215]

The AliExpress M series cards from either AMD or Nvidia are pretty risky since they usually have molded drivers and aren't officially supported. I wouldn't go that route to save 30 bucks

[@asv952]

@@shanez1215 agreed on the risky part, but in case of the RX 6600 my friend bought one and it have no issue other than it default clocked at 500Mhz (need to be manually set to 2000Mhz in adrenaline) and the fan is only on-off config (no curve).

[@imda77]

As a budget PC gamer myself I appreciate this type of video

[@Ash_1277]

Too Linus is back with more budget builds that I can only dream of ❤️‍🔥

[@INFINITEShoobes]

Wow im super early

[@silents4ever]

True, I can't even afford a €100 build

[@dewdew80]

I'm willing to bet a fair portion of games won't utilize the hyperthreading in that i3 properly for the 6 physical cores those games will want. I really think having 6 physical cores is a required bar to be met where enough games just won't run right without them. I'm also willing to bet that the per core performance in even a Ryzen 3000 series processor or 10th gen intel wouldn't be a bottleneck in-game at all in any budget build before the GPU. If you went with a budget Ryzen 5 4500, I think it would perform almost exactly the same as the intel build with the GPU being the determining factor. The only major difference would be that cross section of games that require six threads but don't like hyperthreading, and in those scenarios the old 6 core part will win out.

[@tarkitarker0815]

as linus has shown the 5500 literally costs 5 usd less than the 13100, he made utterly strange decisions.

[@chase7974]

Yeah I wish he benchmarked newer titles. That i3 is going to struggle in any game today, and isn't going to age well going forward. 6 cores is indeed the minimum today, and your right, most games don't utilize hyper threading, and in some games turning off hyper threading can increase performance.

[@Junebug89]

That's actually a crazy good CPU for that price. Until fairly recently, I was using an i5 4690k. That chip is definitely a few years old, but it was also a top of the line i5 when it came out. This bottom of the range i3 has like 80% faster single core speed, the same number of cores but also hyperthreading, and it uses considerably less power. My old i5 could be overclocked of course, but it would still be well below in performance and it would be using even *more* power, plus you needed a Z series motherboard to take advantage of that. And that old i5 could run must games today without issue. It's really mind boggling what you can get from a low value CPUs nowadays. We've come a long way since slow, dual core i3s.

[@kmieciu4ever]

I'm more impressed with the budget mobile Ryzens, like the 5625U you can find in $450 office laptops. 15-25 W power consumption and 3x the performance of that i5 4690k. i3-13100F is an ok chip, but it can suck up to 89 W of power and that is not a huge improvement over 4690k

[@kodokuj]

I wish the video where gameplay is shown via screencapture were uploaded at 60FPS

[@philfjfry1]

For someone who cant afford (like most others) the high end stuff, you always seem to build my pc. I was surprised with the intel build, but when you later mentioned the 5600X, that is exactly what I went for a few months ago. Keeping in mind that your last build was AMD, a 5600x was perfect for a gaming upgrade as 4 cores just isn't enough. The 1660 has always dominated but my 1060 6gb is doing just fine hitting over 70fps in most games and most people will be using a 60hz monitor (maybe even oc to 70) with obvious pull backs on quality, not playing on ulta by all means. However, getting a 1060 over a 1660 will ultimately give you a bit more cash for that nice CPU. The one problem I have with this video is the RAM, there is no way 8GB is enough. I found huge bottlenecks at 8GB playing alot of games.