Linux Mint 22.1: Keeping DEB packages alive, is it still the GOAT?

[@TheLinuxEXP]

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[@Xqzitd]

Please, can you make a video about system resource monitoring on Linux. Preferably about utilities with GUI on Arch Linux. I just don't know. I can't find a direct utility or a center or just a program, a very extensive, multifunctional, multifunctional program. There are a lot of them, but I don't know which one is the right one, and in your video there will at least be a top one where you can choose. I just surfed many sites and didn't find that one. So far I'm using this system-monitoring-center, but I feel like it's really missing. The same thing, WHICH ARE CURRENT AND WHICH ARE UPDATED. I just collect databases from basic applications. I would like you to make a video about office programs. This is a separate video. I also searched many sites and it is not clear. My database will consist of 2 programs libreoffice and onlyofiice, well, if necessary, there are pdf mupdf viewer and ocular. The result is that you are an experienced guy and have more knowledge. What exactly is needed in the video I would like you to make a big top with a selection of programs THAT ARE CURRENT AND UPDATED. And this is important, the same as in those texts, but about something else. Make a video about disk editors or disk management. Well, in short, so that there is also a large top of CURRENT PROGRAMS and so that they are extensive, so that there are many functions.

[@vardekpetrovic9716]

removing accents is stupid making Ö/Ø like the I in "bird" into o like in board makes no sense at all, also fakade? vs façade?

[@PSXman9]

Proton has a history of handing out critical userdata to law enforcement without a warrant.

[@justthisguyyouknow666]

Pretty much the only company's YT endorsement I approve of.

[@hamtaro126]

EXP WON'T STOP WITH SLOP!!! THUMBS DOWN!!!

[@fellipec]

DEB packages only die when Debian gets rid of it. Probably never.

[@花XOI]

Debian is like concrete.

[@monkeysausageclub]

​@@花XOIRoman concrete.

[@kbotev]

At that point Debian is Institution.

[@pulkitkrishna8809]

When Ubuntu gets rid of it, Debian will follow. Money matters.

[@slaapliedje]

​@@pulkitkrishna8809No. Ubuntu has nothing to do with Debian except being based on Debian...

[@andrina118]

I am a longtime Debian user. Apt is what pulled me in and it's never really let me down

[@TheLinuxEXP]

It's just dependable and solid

[@andrina118]

@@TheLinuxEXP And when you compare it to Windows Update....!

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@andrina118comparing any updating system on Linux to Windows Update is a joke! (Windows Update sucks!)

[@andrina118]

@@cameronbosch1213 Of course! I moved to Debian from RedHat & .rpms after reading an article in a print magazine about apt(shows how long ago that was) and being tremendously impressed by it's simplicity and ease of use

[@tracktornator]

​@@cameronbosch1213My favourite part of windows update is when it says "Getting Windows ready. Don't turn off your computer." But then crashes for an hour until you have to turn off your computer 😂

[@5I6]

I respect Linux Mint a lot for working on making things work for people, not jumping into the trend. Edit: Guys, I didn't say that flatpak sucks.

[@catoflado4977]

Flatpak doesent work for people? I prioritize .rpm on opensuse, but why is flatpak bad?

[@Sezamn]

@@catoflado4977 sandboxing

[@UncleJemima]

​@@catoflado4977idk if flatpak is "bad" as much as it has some downsides. ones I know of: - it's mostly only useful for desktop apps, not system or CLI apps (though this may have improved recently?) - installations take up more space - some Flatpaks have a reduced feature sets compared to their native packages, even "official" ones, and it's not always clear that this is the case - it's not always clear when a Flatpak was packaged by the app creator vs some random 3rd-party (though some app stores are starting to address this) - it co-mingles application, configuration, and user files, which can make backups difficult, especially for large programs like games - themes do not work very well out of the box - Flatpak permissions don't work as well as other systems (like Android, for example) and most users would need a separate program like flatseal to manage them - the attack surface is larger when multiple (and older) versions of dependencies are used - Flatpaks homogenize distros, in a way, by removing power from distro maintainers and consolidating the app ecosystem

[@lfox02]

@Sezamn Depends on who you ask. I'd say being a storage hog is a bigger problem.

[@5I6]

I didn't say that flatpack is bad, That's a different thing.​@@catoflado4977

[@oShinobu]

I appreciate Linux Mint so much for doing what's sensible and not jumping on every bandwagon. With other distros like Ubuntu, you never know what kind of half-baked technology they'll introduce in the next version. Linux Mint gives me peace of mind. Flatpaks are cool, but knowing I can still rely on deb packages is awesome.

[@cameronbosch1213]

I don't like that they seem to be not liking flatpaks, but it's still better than Ubuntu.

[@花XOI]

They're sort of like Valve of Linux.

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@花XOISort of, but I don't really like the LM community that much anymore.

[@oShinobu]

@@cameronbosch1213 Nothing is preventing you from using Flatpaks on Mint, they just don't shove it down your throat. I use Flatpaks too when it's more convenient.

[@花XOI]

@@cameronbosch1213 me neither but i have no reference since I'm not in that community. I'm just baffled for the massive funding for it.

[@therealherbzy]

If there is a DEB package I will use it over any other installation method. It just seems more reliable and less likely to give me weird issues when the app is running.

[@codytebaldi]

Same, it's always my first resort.

[@meeponinthbit3466]

Same. Learning the details/backend of Flatpacks to troubleshoot issues is a steeper learning curve than the miniscule effort I've ever had with Deb packages.

[@HOBBS-4]

And you can get something that is up to date from their Web site.

[@jacksoncremean1664]

It annoys me how Flatpak users like to preach how amazing Flatpak is when more often than not, the Flatpak is broken. Computers are tools, not toys.

[@SnakesMF]

agree

[@AliYar-Khan]

I switched to linux and choose mint as my first desktop and I am not disappointed

[@MiguelAbd]

Same here. Going for one year on Mint and I would never go back to Windows, nor would I consider the distro any time soon.

[@Valdoror]

Linux Mint is a very good choice as a 1st Linux distro. If not the best. At least the one I've recommended around me for some years 🙂 That being said, I finally left Linux Mint some years ago because of its desktop (Cinnamon). It looks good, it's simple to use... but it can't compare to KDE Plasma, and I love Plasma so much! 😍So I switched over to Debian+Plasma. Regretting a bit Mint's graphical package manager, Timeshift... but I can't do without Plasma 😉

[@AngelOfDeathBG]

@@Valdoror All Mint has to do is to make KDE Plasma edition. And I will forever use Linux Mint with KDE Plasma.

[@polluxarcturus5260]

​@@AngelOfDeathBG that would be very nice

[@NikiDaDude]

@@AngelOfDeathBG Linux Mint used to have a KDE edition, but they dropped it years ago unfortunately.

[@mchenrynick]

I'm glad that Mint is sticking to it's simplicity and stability. With Windows 11 shoving telemetry and A.I. onto everyone, this is a great O.S. to mitigate to =)

[@snap6sic6]

So many times I've tried to move to a Flatpak-only approach on my desktop machines because I believe in the vision, but every time I've run into some annoying permissions issue, application feature that can't work in a Flatpak environment, or some crap GUI. So much of the user experience with Flatpak still sucks, I'm glad to see new tooling being built around ol' reliable deb.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Deb on stable releases feel old.

[@MoonJuice-p9q]

if flatpak don't work for one thing, you can just install a deb package in a container and have it work just fine. thats the nice thing about it, you can install any package type on top of the main system and not have to worry about messing up the main system. something goes wrong just whipe out the container and start again no harm to thebase

[@dis0nancia]

In my case, using Debian, the arrival of Flatpak has been a blessing.

[@ytbone9430]

@@dis0nancia I don't really see any greater benefit of using Flatpaks, I don't use them. I try to only use "portable" software or AppImages, which renders any application into some kind of portable package. Flatpaks need runtimes to be installed, they don't work on the terminal, they cannot be moved around on the file system or being started from a network share, they don't allow multiple instances of the same application to be installed. It's basically the same unflexible thing as the DEB package system is, with a lot of problems on top and only some dependency issues resolved. AppImages seem to solve all those things for me, it feels like freedom to run applications from an USB attached drive anywhere, including the settings I made in that application / AppImage some time ago on another machine (if you created the *.config folder next to the AppImage executable, settings will travel along!). Flatpaks give a very simple, smartphone like experience. This might work well for computer newbies, but from a nerds perspective, it has a lot of drawbacks. Many people like to control where / what drive the application is installed to, where it's settings are located etc. With AppImages, everything is on one specific place, I like that. DEBs also spread files across the whole system, which is ok for anything OS related, but for general applications and single user setups, it is not the best approach. A lot of folders in a Linux filesystem look like dumpsters because every application puts files and folders in there, after some time this is just a big mess. Using AppImages does not create or add to this mess, I think they are an awesome invention. We should use and create AppImages more! o) Most of the important software is available as AppImage already, sometimes you need to search quite a bit, but once you have your collection of AppImages, you are fine. The internet can burn down, you still can work and you can even install new Linux machines while being totally offline, just copy over some AppImage folders you already have, and the new system is up and running with a ton of software you don't have to install, just launch it.

[@kobra7108]

I believe in flatpack only... What?!

[@wilko2]

Of course Linux Mint is the GOAT

[@cameronbosch1213]

*Was

[@Starlok007]

​@@cameronbosch1213 Why was ?

[@xbizydown]

Mint is L

[@Yuta_18.]

Linux Mint devs are absolute gigachads 🗿🗿🗿

[@cameronbosch1213]

@Starlok007 Because they're community is turning into the gatekeeper like idiots that people new to Linux shouldn't have to deal with.

[@Lampe2020]

One of the problems I have with Flatpak, Snap and AppImage alike is that they're all sandboxed, at least kind-of. You can disable the sandbox for certain Flatpaks IIRC, but in the normal case these apps get their own virtual filesystem that makes files appear in weird spots or not at all.

[@ozoak]

This. A usual point of issue with Linux is how approachable it is to non-tech users. Flatpak does not help that cause. I actually can't remember the last time I had a non-flatpack related package issue, but flatpak regularly makes me search online for fixes, workarounds and tweaks. And I know what I'm doing. If I were a basic 'user', I can imagine I'd just get someone to install Windows for me. IMO that makes flatpak a barrier to adoption rates, regardless of whatever advantages it claims to bring.

[@hubertnnn]

I am pretty sure appimage is not sandboxed. It just mounts the image in /tmp and runs the application from there.

[@cap_eath]

I lose my saved files a lot. I end up spending five minutes searching for a file I thought I saved on home directory. The Flatpak package had created its own home folder inside var

[@Michael-it6gb]

I didnt know this have turned into such an issue. The .deb files are like the .exe install files for linux and theyve been great. Please never get rid of them.

[@lusa3002]

That's what i say, keep things simple, easy to install and uninstall without problems or brick the system.

[@eopest]

@@lusa3002 Exactly.

[@Anubis1101]

as someone new to linux, im so glad mint exists, its made the transition so easy.

[@Random-nh3hs]

I hope Linux mint made journey easy. It did for me when I switched

[@Little-bird-told-me]

Linux mint is the best Distro for everyday use. Its so lightweight and apps open so quickly and the whole setup is so well designed. Although I dual boot PopOs because of the tiling WM

[@bosmanka]

Why not implement implement tiling in LM. It’s not popos only

[@mascarademermelada8746]

​@@bosmankaThere is g-tile and it's absolute GARBAGE😂 tbh i was about to switch to popOs too just for that reason alone

[@Little-bird-told-me]

@@bosmanka ikr, but couldn't be bothered. _Think cattle not pets_

[@peterp4037]

Linux mint and zorin os are the only two distros that could help bring the masses closer to linux. They work out of the box and easy to use.

[@DanTDMJace]

Endeavour?

[@fg2002id]

@@DanTDMJaceEndeavour Os are great for trying to make Arch newbie friendly but Arch are not friendly at all.

[@DanTDMJace]

@ I've never had problems with it. It's always "just worked" for me.

[@i-like-turnips]

I'd argue the gap between Debian and the beginner-friendly distros is so small now that there isn't really much benefit for most people.

[@penguin2137]

@@DanTDMJace as an Endeavour user - a definitely good distro, but not as the first to switch from proprietary OS's. it's basically Arch with graphical installation, a few in-house scripts and another theming, so still if you have no clue how to maintain and don't have the learning mindset, you're asking yourself for trouble

[@motoryzen]

Just want to thank the Linux Mint team has done all they can do and are out of ideas to innovate whatsoever, they surprised me in a pleasant way I swear they just keep improving this operating system little by little consistently like fine wine without all the sugars and carbs but still all the great tastes

[@abhishek_k7]

after much of distro hopipng, Im now on linux mint and it just works. i dont have to worry about things suddenly breaking or not working. its a great distro

[@savagepro9060]

I thought I read: "Keeping Dead Packages Alive"

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Haha well, some people might think that's the case :D

[@thefanboy3285]

11:45 not to mention, softwares that are built "for Linux" natively are most of the time built for debian based distros as Debian is the most renowned and stable distro out there. At least, from my experience as a linux user of 2 years. There are simply some softwares that are not yet available on flathub or have an unmaintained appimage version and a maintained .deb version.

[@lev3271]

Ah no no no buddy,U now gonna be using some unofficial flatpak package maded by John Doe and suddenly your discord got stolen 😐😆😆

[@thefanboy3285]

@@lev3271 yeah. F that Sh. I don't do flatpaks as of yet.

[@jpardoa94]

WTF i was waiting for it to release to do a clean install, got tired of waiting and did the wipe yesterday, installing LM22.0, and turns out it released today lmao The timing is almost comedic

[@nml5536]

always. 😂

[@LightningSnake]

well, I think Mintupgrade will help in some few days

[@ÞórðurÞórsson]

I was waiting too, but installed 22 a week ago because I couldn’t wait to get rid of windows.

[@aarizshaikh1379]

Same here I was just turning my laptop on to install 22 lol

[@StefenTower]

It doesn't appear 22.1 is fully out yet (probably still in final QA testing) but once it is, Update Manager will automatically upgrade you.

[@DicksonTimScotland]

glad to see another distro that isn't jumping on the "containerised distribution is the only way" bandwaggon. The more large distro's that sill use their own packaging, the more likely that projects will still provide methods for other packaging which is great.

[@Star_Kay]

I am long time LMDE user, I appreciate it so much and all the work people put behind it.

[@MattMcCullough]

I absolutely love Linux Mint. My go to distro

[@subarulenz1470]

After a year of being distro hopper, I settled at Linux Mint. It felt so great.

[@abhishek_k7]

same lol

[@jx86xj]

Don't you guys feel the need to use the latest versions of your applications? Or do you use Flatpaks? If yes, how many Flatpaks do you usually have installed? I need to cure my bleeding-edge syndrome ASAP.

[@subarulenz1470]

@@jx86xj I think I have the same issue. The feeling when I click upgrade is so satisfying

[@abhishek_k7]

@@jx86xj I use some flatpaks like discord, foliate, handbrake, etc but what I really need is a stable OS. I cant do any actual work if the bleeding edge (but botched) updates keep messing up my OS and requiring me to do some research to fix them. and often times these "hacks" to fix things start to add up and deviate from the way the OS and package manager are supposed to handle these packages/updates and this could keep getting messier until you have to do a fresh reinstall/another distro hop. these days I just want peace of mind with a reliable OS so I could be productive and I've been able to do that with Linux Mint despite having rtx 4070. but my next GPU will likely be AMD just to avoid that whole mess altogether. also I'm dual booting windows so I switch to windows if I have to for something but thats getting rare since switching to Linux Mint. I even game on Mint. I'd say realizing that I was wasting more time fixing things on OS than being productive is why I decided to stick to something reliable which wouldn't need much fixing in the first place

[@PenguinByte]

4:50 and it automatically lifts, when the sun- Linux Mint also now has uh, power modes!

[@konradzuse4778]

Grrrreat decision to keep debs active and around! Native packages work just so much better than flatpaks or snaps, which are always confined and restricted in some way. Its weird enough when the password-manager doesn't work with you browser, because of missing process communication capabilities, or if Inkscape doesn't work with the installed Latex (can't type formulas!). It's a disaster if you are in software development, and your IDE can not communicate with local libs or the compiler..

[@TheEvelynMakesThings]

Agreed, native is just so much better! I never have issues with native packages compared to flatpak (and snap just drove me insane trying to get it to run well)

[@Feier_Salamander]

The move to snap was the reason for me to move from Ubuntu to Debian. Deb will not die :D

[@ColasTeam]

Been finally using Linux as my main OS for a few months now, using Mint because as a teen I tried Ubuntu and found it somewhat unstable. Mint's stability is a blessing!

[@ravagingwolverine]

A very handy overview. I've used Mint a lot over the years. I've had to go away from Mint for some of my machines for various reasons. One of them has wi-fi issues with Mint, though I'm tempted to investigate that again. I do have my parents on Mint and it's great for them. For me, the big news in this rundown is the integration of color temperature control. About a decade back, I had really bad insomnia and light sensitivity, and color temp control was essential once I learned about it. It's an extremely high priority for me for anything with a screen now. Of course, I discovered Redshift and SCT back then, but those don't work as well as they used to and the transition to Wayland will eventually be a problem. That's why I started to play around with KDE again in the last couple of years after I learned they integrated color temperature settings into the desktop which made it more reliable and viable for Wayland. It's excellent seeing that happen for Cinnamon as well. I've come to like KDE in the distros I've been using, but I'm more familiar with Cinnamon. It will be good to have more options, especially when the Wayland transition is complete. It will be interesting to see what the other desktops end up doing.

[@savagepro9060]

Fedora: "What we MINT was separating the GOAT from the SHIPPED!"

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Hahah oh no the acronyms have gone too far now 😂

[@n-steam]

I get the idea of flatpaks/snaps. They're easy and convenient, something your grandma could do. But I'd only ever use them as a last resort, they're too bulky and wasteful.

[@Cyco_Nix]

They are not my first choice and Snap would be my last, but there are times that the Flatpak is a much newer version and works better than native due to dependencies. I have very few that I use, but I do check before just installing native.

[@xxedgelord420xx4]

Its only wasteful when you use it for less than 5 apps. When you get everything with flatpak like on bazzite its the same as native packages

[@tusux2949]

Same, but they have their advantages. Everything in that flatpak is in one place, everything you need to run it is in there and uninstalling it is a breeze since it's just one file, doesn't break anything and leaves no leftovers when removed. It also doesn't make you upgrade dependencies on your main system when you don't need to/want to - you may be running an older version of a dependency on your system for stability but the flatpak can use bleeding edge inside - your system is safe but you get the increased performance for that flatpak. And if it breaks you just remove it wihout consequences. Flatpaks have their uses even if you dislike them.

[@michaelwright2986]

My impression is that the real point of flatpak/snap/appimage is that they make it easier for developers. You make something for Windows or MacOS, and you prepare a single package. For traditional Linux, there have to be a lot of different installation packages, which is discouraging. The big hope is that it might get commercial developers to port stuff to Linux. Probably a vain hope in the case of the things that matter, like Adobe. The only thing for the user is that the flatpaks available through the Mint software manager are normally a more recent version than the Debs: but I'm trying to get out of thinking that newer is always better, at least for mature software.

[@pyepye-io4vu]

Actually grandma can have some problems with it. Due to sandboxing, Flatpaks can run into permission issues, and if your app uses files, the files are in weird directories like /run/user/1000, which confuses the hell out of basic users.

[@MesaPrimeX]

When installing a Linux distro, make sure too choose one that has Secure Boot enabled. Not only does it protect Linux boot, with dbx signatures and thereby invalidates bootkits. it also protects updates for your Linux Distrobution.

[@Royaleah]

Deb is so much better than snap. I have to keep removing firefox and reinstalling it after it starts to crash on startup after doing a refresh. Not a fan of snap crap.

[@frankhuurman3955]

I actually had so many issues getting browser automation working with the freaking Firefox snap yesterday. Used to be run & done with selenium but now I needed an hour to configure stuff to get things working (and trying to apt install always gets the @!@%&^#@ snap version instead of .deb). Once this SSD dies I'm stepping away from Ubuntu.

[@Root__314]

How did you manage to install the Debian Firefox? I’ve tried numerous times but always just succeeded in wasting my data and it defaulting boneheadedly to snap again mid-install

[@RichardShortland-Neal]

Linux Mint is the distro I always return to as it just works.

[@ccroy2001]

I just switched to LM late last year. Cinnamon on my main laptop and MATE on a chromebook I converted to Linux via the "chrultrabook" project. Last year I did a bunch of distro hopping. If I relate linux desktops to real world desktops. Gnome is the desk of that coworker that is fanatical about having a desk that looks like maybe no one sits there it's so empty. KDE is like a desk that has its own distractions built in like a phone dinging, adjustable lighting, height, and an espresso machine. Cinnamon and LM MATE is like my actual desk, I have my papers here and there that I need to see (I'm messy by nature) to act on, but no fancy features to distract.

[@HOBBS-4]

Make a video, show us you Mint set up.

[@laletemanolete]

Linux Mint is the love of my life.

[@StaceyAyodele]

I love Linux Mint. I use the XFCE edition because it's more customizable than Cinnamon. Being able to have multi-row window lists is a must for me.

[@Random-nh3hs]

Tbh, linux mint is that quit kings right hand. Working a lot, and want no recognition. Kudos to linux mint team, my favourite distro.

[@AstralPhnx]

I think a hybrid approach to package management makes sense. Keeping support for native packages alongside flatpak and stuff, because in practice that's how I use my Fedora installs, a mix of RPM's and flatpaks (because the ability for flatpak to negate dependency hell is REALLY NICE). It's defo how I recommend people use Linux

[@gost]

I use Proton VPN for almost a year for now and there is a huge amount of work done. There is an old version in the video. Recent versions have a WireGuard protocol, improved KillSwitch, and a list of servers for quick connect. I use it for my VoIP calls, so the connection quality is really good.

[@pyepye-io4vu]

Yup, I'm also using WireGuard in ProtonVPN.

[@ipshitshaha7244]

Mint Cinnamon is the first distro i suggest to any new linux user. I love cinnamon and appreciate the devs' efforts to make it better...

[@HOBBS-4]

Half of Mint users have been using Mint for many years. 20 years for me, I code and program on Mint. Am I new or a normie LOL

[@AndyVu-j5s]

I like every bit of Mint except touchpad gesture which is slow to response compared to ubuntu. Is there any way to make it more seamless ?

[@LightningSnake]

Yes, it is still the GOAT, and giving users easier options to install things is the best way to go

[@peteruren2050]

"No-one ever will fully work on them (Synaptic and Gdebi) fully ever again". Well, it's hard to improve on perfection!

[@wertor666]

Stuttering during video playback wasn't fixed (yes, vaapi is enabled and working). It's a main reason why I can't choose Mint. Probably it's Cinnamon or gtk problem (adressed many times on the forum). I would be pleased to use it. Moved to plasma on different debian based system.

[@tulsatrash]

Good on the Mint Team.

[@05Matz]

Pardon my ignorance, but aren't Flatpaks slower, more disk-space-consuming, semi-sandboxed 'portable' versions of programs with all their dependencies packaged in statically, most useful as a fallback if a system package of the software doesn't exist for your distro currently or is for some reason broken? Maybe I'm confusing them with my experience with appimages... but I've always used .deb packages whenever possible thus far. And I'll never use snaps! A single gatekeeper being able to define the one-true-version of a package with no practical means to re-target it to something else is antithetical to the whole point of the Linux ecosystem.

[@pyepye-io4vu]

They are! Flatpaks are quite awful in many ways, but they are hyped beyond recognition (like AI).

[@spectre.garden]

It seems to me that people think that snaps and flatpak are in direct competition with packaging systems like deb. But in truth they are different approaches. It doesn't make sense to imagine switching to not using something like deb. The point of flatpak and snap is to simplify delivery. It does not allow for efficiency, strong security, or tight interoperability with other snaps and flatpaks. Official deb packages are vetted for stability, security and interoperability were appropriate.

[@cubeskywalker4953]

Nice update! Thanks for covering it! I'm looking forward to upgrading.

[@lev3271]

U have there SOLID STABLE debian Its gonna be forever

[@05Matz]

Ooh, nice. Lots of improvements I'm excited for!

[@thegreatboto]

Deb/apt packages are great even if older. Apt is reliable and just about any guide or git repo for setting up random things involves either a deb package or an apt install line. Been playing around with Fedora lately and sometimes I can just sub in dnf for apt and things work, but there's plenty of packages that either are named different or just don't exist under dnf leading to further monkeying around to get whatever missing project dependencies you need installed.

[@besnikrrustemi]

Linux Mint is literally the best linux distro "Out of the Box" that you can install and run without having to tinker anything or ever use the terminal. It comes with everything a normal/average user may need pre-installed. Big Respect for them.

[@spruce-bogey]

Flatpak is a solution to a problem that I do not have. I have used Mint for 10 years; it has always been great. I have never experienced "dependency hell" with deb packages, but I might not expect that for my use case either; things are pretty straightforward here. I dislike the additional overhead when installing or updating Flatpak (or snap, or appimage), and for that reason, I will go for a deb-packaged alternative every time, all things being equal, or even if the deb alternative is not quite as current. Kudos to the Mint team for another fine release, and for keeping deb packages going strong.

[@pyepye-io4vu]

Flatpak is a solution to nothing. It's more problems. I appreciate the deb love! We debbers need to stay strong.

[@ampex189]

As a long time Linux user (I started with redhat 7.3 back in '02) I really like Linux Mint because it's so damn stable. I've also gotten several non-techie people set up on it without issue because it's simple to use.

[@jtaraskus]

14:47 flatpak update is pain... slow task...

[@VeitLehmann]

I guess one major reason for preferring Apt over Flatpak is that they prefer GTK3 over GTK4 apps. With Apt, they have control over which versions to ship and can intentionally keep older versions or ship forks, i. e. continuations of the last GTK3 version of an app. Makes sense for GTK3-based desktops, which all of Mint's desktops are. So this is my favorite distro for Cinnamon, Xfce4, and Mate. For GNOME and KDE, I prefer Fedora right now, since it always ships the most recent version without having a rolling base that requires more attention.

[@יובלהרמן-ח2ד]

Love your work mate, thx for the vid

[@NathanClaasFan]

This was a great video

[@Steve-tp6fb]

Linux Mint just offered me the option to upgrade. All done and dusted within 5 minutes. No issues at all. The new Cinnamon theme is gorgeous. These people are geniuses.

[@cyniczny]

Huge props for Mint, it was my intro distro back in the days. Now waiting for new LMDE ❤

[@johnharris3311]

When I first got started with Linux I used Synaptic rather than apt to install packages. At some point that changed, and I'm not really sure when or why. I think it comes down to the fact that for most purposes Synaptic isn't actually any better or more convenient than apt. The one advantage of Synaptic is that it'll show you package descriptions without making you do any additional typing, but if you don't need it that, if, for example, you already know what package you want to install, then there's no reason not to use the command line. I'm a big Debian package fan, by the way. I've got exactly one Flatpack app installed on my Mint PC, Discord, and I kind of regret it.

[@keyboard_g]

I really want the volume percent value back on the popup slider. To just pop up the notification with no text when you adjust the volume kind of holds no worth.

[@TheNoirKamui]

Taking out the % value of the sound / brightness indicator is a huge minus for me! This was clearly not a good decision! Do I have to squint and pull out a tape measure now when changing volume?! wtf seriously

[@kyokazuto]

True, that's disappointing for me as well.

[@williamp6800]

As a Linux noob, package managers were one of the most enticing things. No more updating one app after another. Two commands in terminal and…. Done!! Why would anyone want to give that up?

[@i-like-turnips]

winget - but yes, as a Linux user for nearly 20 years, the package managers are good, but haven't been exclusive to linux for a long time now.

[@williamp6800]

@ not exclusive, but they were THE way to get apps and keep them updated.

[@danarj5713]

my favorite distro

[@geodad4782]

I’ve been a Debian user since the Ubuntu Unity Amazon ad debacle. I liked the apt tool as well as the .deb file type because they seem to be EVERYWHERE. At some point, I switched the repos in my daily driver to unstable, so I get newer packages.

[@Aluminio_siete_tres_siete]

I love using LMDE, it just feels so polished and clean, 10/10 better distro out there for desktop.

[@cameronbosch1213]

4:49 Excuse me, wtf!? (Editing error?)

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Yeah, I need to take a look at this. I know for a fact I didn’t mess that cut up, so it’s gotta be a Resolve error where it doesn’t display the cut where it’s supposed to be. Happened in the previous video too. It seems to cut about half a second too soon compared with where I clicked, but only when I add a transition or a sound effect

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@TheLinuxEXPTime to contact DaVinci with a bug report...

[@thomasturner1065]

​@@TheLinuxEXP transitions sometimes trim more off the previous segments. You can tell by how the block is placed in the timeline - if it sits between both medias, it trims off both. If it sits on the left or right of the cut, it trims a bit off the side it sits on. I'm not sure if that applies but it helped me a lot when I heard about it.

[@PaulG.x]

Linux Mint: Our new unique theme! Cinnagnome!

[@Sithhy]

Gnomon!

[@shadyKING057]

+rep for Proton ad. Amazing apps

[@TheFerdi265]

Mint and Cinnamon are really coming along nicely! When I got into Linux mint existed, but hadn't fully fleshed out how they deal with apt packages and there were a few dependency issues here and there, but now I see myself recommending Mint over Ubuntu any day of the week, and Cinnamon's Wayland support seems like a thing that will soon become great!

[@adriaanbakker3724]

lets go, linux mint, keep deb packages alive!

[@pyepye-io4vu]

Spread the deb love!

[@kocokan]

Linux mint is boring, and boring is good for mainstream adoption

[@randomcloudinsky]

Atleast they are self aware now. They are fixing the looks slowly

[@mikespangler98]

Yes boring is good. Tax time coming, I don't need to fight the OS and the IRS at the same time. 😊

[@VeitLehmann]

This is on point. That's why it's the distro that people install on their parents' old computers when they luckily can't upgrade to Win11 or the most recent macOS version. I did, they are happy, and I'm happy as well because it just works.

[@tusux2949]

I love boring. Between my home PC on Mint and my work PC on Win 11, guess which one just fires up and goes and which one I have to tinker with constantly.... The roles have reversed in the last few years lol. Now everyone that says they use Windows because it's simple and just works, I just laugh in their face. Then get sad because they don't know any better. Hopefully the day for the Linux mainstream desktop is not too far now.

[@michaelwright2986]

Boring Is Good indeed. There are plenty of other sources of excitement in life.

[@MellowOutMoogy]

Love Mint. I don't use it but I like what they do.

[@skelebro9999]

what happened at 4:49? what was that cut?

[@TheLinuxEXP]

Dammit, it’s the second time this happens. Feels like there might be an issue with Resolve at that point, where it cuts parts I didn’t ask it to cut. I’ll check.

[@adamcrane2391]

I like flatpacks unless its a program where I'm opening or importing a lot of files because flatpacks tend to not remember the folder you last opened from so you are constantly having to to through the folders to find where you saved things.

[@RedFire998]

a lot of QoL on things that made me go with a different distro, really nice to see Mint getting better. The only thing that I would really love to be resolved is the awful way notification sounds work in Cinnamon and by extension Mint. Being stuck with one global sound for all notifications even though the apps have their own sounds for them (Steam, Discord for example) is just so stupid. I either have to turn off Cinnamon notifications so I can hear the sounds, or I have the visual notifications but same sounds for everything.

[@EnderShiru]

I believe you can go to sounds and specifically turn off the notif sound that cinnamon plays. It's been a while since I've checked but I believe it's there.

[@HedgehogY2K]

Hopefully this distro doesn't soft-lock people out with updates. I was forced back to Windows 8.1 after 8 solid months of 20.3.

[@abunk8691]

Thanks Nick! I will probably redo my Mint install since 22.1 is out as the upgrade from 21.3 is still borked for me. I'll probably rewatch this video before I do so for a review of what changed even though there's not much major stuff.

[@pyepye-io4vu]

Don't do the 21.3 -> 22 upgrade, there were many problems in Debian / Ubuntu packages. Too many package changes (due to the 2038 bug) and Ubuntu 24.04 shipped a bit half-baked. In fact you might want to wait 1-2 more years, your 21.3 is still good until April 2027.

[@abunk8691]

@pyepye-io4vu I attempted the 21.3 to 22 upgrade and I know there's issues. That's why I just mentioned it as "borked" because I did not expect there to be so much unresolved dependency conflicts due to the changes upstream from Ubuntu 24.04. I plan to do a clean install either to Mint 22.1 (or maybe LMDE for some FrankenDebian fun) after I'm finished dealing with my PC's hardware gremlins.

[@fatcat2546]

@@pyepye-io4vu I never even realized there were major issues with the upgrade. I ran it on two computers, and didn't run afoul of any problems. I guess I was lucky?

[@abunk8691]

@@fatcat2546 You might be lucky. But also you might not have any orphaned packages (stuff not on repos) or packages from other repos (i.e. Ubuntu PPAs). Having those non Mint or Ubuntu repo packages is common thing with users like me who had issues with the Mint 21 to 22 upgrade due to unresolved dependencies. That is because packages from user added repos would be removed or downgraded (and said downgrade version might not be present on Mint and Ubuntu repos) among other issues with the upgrade.

[@Blueeeeeee]

Honestly the redshift thing and the power modes are much welcomes features, I personally find them fairly significant. Also I think the new popups were remade in preparation for Wayland, btw

[@c5on]

That sound amplifier sounds useful to me.

[@Sithhy]

I'm glad to see that Mint has introduced the night light feature as well; it's such a small but nice QoL thing to have, though I wish that XFCE would implement that as well

[@13thravenpurple94]

Wonderful video! Thank you very much 💜

[@ariathyf144]

Long Life to the DEB packages. Every core distro should love and sustain its own repositories. This prevent software vulnerabilities to spread across distros. It's a TIME PROOFED concept.

[@BRBTechTalk]

9:44 I am dedicated to Linux, I do prefer Mint but I try other distributions too. I am happy to see they are sticking with the Deb package manager as I was concerned with the SNAP and Flatpack distributions. I set up systems often as I am always playing with "better" hardware, I have an install script that installs all the extra programs I like, if my script fails it will be because a Flatpack or SNAP package is no longer available.

[@MaikonWender]

I'm thankfull to Mint for keeping DEB alive. In old or weak machines Flatpack and Snaps are hideous!

[@JestyJoshua]

I wish the mint team would focus on the debian edition and work together with sparky linux on their big deb package reop

[@thefredrockshow]

I'm on mint since 2023, it's just awesome

[@Marshall1914]

I'm never switching away from LMDE

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

Still waiting for Cinnamon 6.4...

[@CR0SSJ]

I've installed mint on my main PC, even though I had a bit of fedora experience now, because deb based packages and distros seems to be the most widely supported in the general mainstream applications. So I'm really glad of this work mint has been doing for the deb packages.

[@Silver-eb7zm]

You can use Distrobox lol.

[@dionblundell9733]

In 2001 I shifted from RH to Debian for APT, and it’s auto dependency, and, I still haven’t experienced better

[@Silver-eb7zm]

Have you tried Pacman?

[@WhatzHappeningNow9]

I see Mint as Debian plus, feature updates are conservative but stable. Reliable distro.

[@harryspapadopoulos21]

I use Linux Mint LMDE6 and it is very stable and simple. No ubuntu nonsense.

[@sevenfacedsin]

I tested this release on an external NVME. Installed Nvidia drivers, bottles, and installed Cataclysm Classic. Double the performance of my Windows 10 IoT LTSC install. I’ll eventually be switching.

[@dagda825]

Mint 22 is just the best. Runs ollama like a champ and cunsumes a fraction of the system resources my windows machine does.

[@penguin2137]

Mint was my gateway to Linux and i will always be grateful for its existence. now i'm testing Zorin to see if it's any good - it is, but i find Mint way comfier

[@JonteRabe]

When I was new to Linux I thought .deb files, which I could download and find on most websites, were the equivalent to Windows installation files😅

[@FunWith-Piku]

😂😂😂 It took me a while to understand how to install a deb package in Ubuntu. But then I learned the dpkg way and then apt way.

[@Sithhy]

I mean, .deb is almosr like a Windows .exe file. If there is a Linux version of a program then you will most likely find .deb as one of the few formats or the only one

[@SidcupRC]

The themeing seems to have gone backwards in recent years. A lot of options seem to be missing like customizing menu bars.

[@FudgeMyLyfe]

recently switched to mint form zorin os. have to say it was a massive upgrade as everything is more usable out of the box and all my games run perfectly :3

[@GazixVR]

I am about to reinstall my computer and install mint as a dual boot. This OS looks great! excited to learn linux