Lip Kicks Fiona Out of the House | Shameless

[@MiKroXL]

I’m glad Lip decided to open a restaurant instead of yelling at his sister

[@DanceGavinDanceIsBae]

😂

[@stevn744]

when does he do that

[@punkrockstormchaser]

@@stevn744it’s a different show called the bear

[@TheGamer-vx5go]

@@stevn744season 12

[@tatianawilson9187]

​@@stevn744 it's a joke. The Lip actor is the main in the show "The Bear". Also yells a lot

[@AdidasFan-y9h]

Fiona’s alcoholism was amazingly acted. It was so brutal, real and understandable considering everything she went through.

[@bcc7777]

What we all went through.

[@nunyabusiness-wo9ps]

fiona had the easiest life i ever seen portrayed on tv

[@bcc7777]

@@nunyabusiness-wo9ps 🤨🤦

[@SOSO_CREPITUS]

Oh so Fiona is a saint when shes an alcoholic but Frank’s the piece of shit??

[@Joe-96X4E]

What fuckin a new guy every other episode

[@farzaslasher422]

Emmy Rossum and Jeremy Allen White are amazing actors. They did such a great job portraying their characters to the core.

[@billieeyelash7015]

Jeremy Allen White is so mid.

[@Le_Jiibs]

@@billieeyelash7015 womp womp

[@cioluvsurnan5722]

@@billieeyelash7015and so is your opinion 😂

[@schroederguy]

Wait you actually think what we just watched in this vid was average acting? ​@@billieeyelash7015

[@pabloc8808]

Props to the makeup team, they really made Emmy Rossum look messed up

[@jackloveall7672]

Honestly, when she started chuckling at him after he told her to get out, I half expected him to physically throw her out to show how serious he was.

[@guitarman0365]

Guys who deal with this bs don't have the stones usually. She would have been out long ago if he had options. Women know this that's why they chuckle when lap dog finally shows teeth. They have seen so many false alpha chest pumps they see through it. But then when it turns out to be real they realize they fucked up and judged a guy wrong as weak when he was always just giving the benefit of the doubt until he finally had enough. I dont watch this show and have no context on what type of guy he is beyond this moment but it's an interesting pattern that can be observed out in the world. Women don't chuckle at you when putting your foot down unless they have very little respect for you and don't believe you are the guy who means it.

[@takumi2023]

​@@guitarman0365that just means the guy didn't set boundaries or the women didn't respect you in the first place. Just based on this interaction I saw it as a kid shrinking from responsibility.

[@Nallisn]

@@takumi2023I think that’s what he said but just described the theory behind it

[@Aartisme]

Wow the replies lol. The guy and girl in the video are siblings.

[@NO-gg1ex]

@@Aartismelol ik Im sat here laughing away

[@niklasra669]

"You didn't care enough to know" is sooo true for so many people not taking responsibility, best show ever

[@DirtySouth56]

I'm amazed at some of you ppl. You must be a woman. Cuz only women expect ppl to read their minds.

[@yelitzatrujillo7921]

Asmr nails Javier

[@HisNameIsEL]

💯

[@wuttut3276]

Nah, thats just a copout for wanting to blame random shit on people. In this particular scene Fiona wasn't responsible for the actions of Jason. Jason is sole person responsible for his actions, end of story.

[@e_r5511]

@@wuttut3276facts, he’s a grown ass man lmao

[@daviddennis7063]

"100 days he was sober" that shit really hits hard

[@shanebracken8358]

I do get why Lip was angry

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

@@shanebracken8358 Why? Not her fault the fail drug abuser went straight back to abusing drugs just because of a drink. Not my first instinct to ask someone first if they are ex-drug abusers before I offer them a drink.

[@envenomedsiren]

​@shanebracken8358 he had no reason to be angry. fiona didn't know. it was his friends own fault for wanting to drink.

[@shiwinfernando919]

0:23 The grunting “hey” Lip makes to silence Fiona is almost similar to a father trying to keep a fight away from his kids

[@wettcitty]

My trauma just hit

[@dellh86]

Damn. That really makes me rethink this scene.

[@viastephtop]

I see both sides of this, truthfully. On one hand, it's easy to get mad at Lip and think that he was just lashing out at Fiona, and he was. Because probably, in his mind, he was just watching her turn into their father. Every single person in this family is deeply traumatized and damaged and they all struggle with being decent people because nobody taught them how to be. They just had to navigate and figure this shit out on their own since their own parents couldn't bring themselves to care about anyone more than themselves. Empathy, compassion, and so on are lessons taught to us by the adults in our lives, even if we can't fully remember those lessons. No, none of it was Fiona's fault, but she's stuck in a "I lost my childhood and had a bad life, and therefor I have a pass to be a shitshow now" loop. A lot of them were. A lot of people are.

[@lynnlove331]

Lip was an alcoholic too

[@nunyabusiness-wo9ps]

trauma is made up by liberals and all these mfs were living the dream and are spoiled brats thru and thru.

[@syberroaster2861]

Lip was absolutly in the wrong here.

[@Dichotomic_King]

it’s not an excuse-you’re still responsible for your decisions in the present regardless of your past.

[@DehNameIsLorm]

​@@syberroaster2861 no it isn't, he changed himself not only for him but for his family and his kid, Fiona is a grown ass woman still blaming people for her mistakes

[@Play01music]

This show went from the funniest most hilarious show about a messed up family to the darkest realest ish about a messed up family

[@PatrickOnPoint]

I wish it would’ve commited more to the serious/drama aspect with some comedy strewn in, but some of the storylines became way to cartoonish and quirky and kind of diminished some of my favorite aspects of the show.

[@REAPER3fitty]

It was always dark

[@dylanhealy8126]

Realest? Well it wasn’t real for long because that went out the window when Debbie was getting paid less than the men workers, which has been illegal since 1976.

[@NoOne-go6tc]

Because I watched this show I got into sobriety. I held my first AA chip and flipped it in the air at the exact moment so did Lip. It looked like a sign I was on the right path. I am now over 3 years sober and I sponsor other men. I have even worked at a sober living house. This show helped change my life.

[@mcdiyqjr5163]

Damn this show saving lives 💯👏

[@magik30527]

Keep going brother, I hope things only get better for you! Much love ♥️

[@CabbageShooter]

No damn clue who you are and we will almost certainly never meet but I’m proud of you brother, you’ve done well and you’re on the good path.

[@julezthealien2467]

Congratulations! Absolutely killing it, great job and proud of you!

[@ZenoBell016]

Imagine having no control of yourself and celebrating that. Imagine publicly announcing “I can’t control myself” and expecting people to pat you on the back. Bro grow the fuck up.

[@leonh.kalayjian6556]

Emmy needs an Emmy.

[@skillet9141]

Clever. 😆

[@lukedaley17]

Emmy Rossum’s performance throughout her final season of Shameless USA has been phenomenal especially the storyline regarding Fiona’s alcoholism.

[@indijanece8356]

Their chemistry as siblings was fkn amazing. Emmy Rossum is so underrated. I cried a million times watching this show - and would laugh like 5 minutes later. Like real life. Soooo good.

[@censortube8662]

She basically turned into Frank here after all the years of trying not to.

[@shamelessmoose]

It's genetic. A disease. My father is just like Frank. My greatest fear in life is turning into him.

[@stutikhanna987]

Lip was the character who hold everyone responsible ans assert boundaries about alcoholism but when he was drinking then he finds excuses.

[@wadewilson4353]

Once you dig your way out of that pit seeing other people fall into it can make you angry.

[@Mike-qb9kh]

@@wadewilson4353 He's also a giant hypocrite. A lot of people get sober and look down at everyone else and act as though they weren't complete wastes of life when they were using and that's exactly what Lip does here. His lack of compassion for his broken sister, who realistically the main reason the family is still around is insanity.

[@eraserheadchicken]

@@Mike-qb9khexactly! Lip also NEVER takes responsibility for anything he does or has done. He always makes sure the blame is directed outward. His alcoholism was everybody else’s fault, he’s a Gallagher, it’s in his blood etc. But he does not give Fiona the same grace even though they grew up the same way. When he was in college and throwing away his life Fiona was stern but showed compassion. He never showed the same. He was smug throughout all her hardships. The show may have showed him get sober but Lip never really grew as a person. He remained explosive, smug and arrogant.

[@33-vertebrae]

​@@eraserheadchickenThat's men for you.

[@kevothegoat9891]

I’ll say this her alcoholism got someone else who was trying to overcome the addiction to slip back into it

[@salazar556]

It was always so hard to see Fiona go through a difficult and dark period.

[@jaynehogue2459]

She caused it and did it to herself

[@violetcovers5699]

​@@jaynehogue2459yea like literally everyone else in the show

[@swimreaper9990]

I understand she has trauma but she needed to grow tf up and stop blaming her bullshit in everyone else

[@dembolicalk229]

It was karma, she was a shit person, she may have had some good moments and went through a lot. But over and over again she did messed up things and acted like she was better than everyone else, while actively being a bad person.

[@JackThor]

@@dembolicalk229 dam ya'll acting like she should be a saint, a Jesus to Sacrifice and die for siblings. She did pretty good, considering the how well she raised her siblings and how they ended up.

[@kanizfatima3447]

everyone's acting in Shameless was sooo gooo..literally unparallel

[@l3ftie578]

You can tell by how passionately against or for the characters people are in the comments

[@strategic1710]

Everyone held Fiona to a higher standard than they held themselves or siblings.

[@jackashmore]

Ya cuz she was the mother figure, in their eyes she was supposed to be the best cuz for a long time she was the best thing in their life’s.

[@danieln7591]

​@@jackashmoreand people forget Fiona called people out for fucking up it's just her turn in the hot seat

[@tytybaby06]

Right it’s sad she gave up her life to raise them & Lip couldn’t give her any grace

[@melissaschaecher251]

​@tytybaby06 if anyone else had left that coke out, you people would want them dead.

[@tytybaby06]

@@melissaschaecher251 I NEVER defend that Fi Fi was deadass wrong & it was on her! She went to jail & suffered the consequences! But given how she gave up her whole childhood & adolescence to raise her siblings I think she deserved some grace! Especially from Lip since he understands what she’s been through & is the most intelligent Gallagher!

[@brookelynnwu8016]

I have alcoholic family members so I felt this. The smugness is very real. Unfortunately, alcoholics are far more vïolent in reality.

[@tommyshadow66]

agreed its the smugness... that smile mid argument.. its great acting. someone in the crew or one of the writers had to have lived the life first hand.

[@YallLameash]

@@tommyshadow66or used their head fr

[@YallLameash]

Not all alcoholics are violent homie

[@MarbRedFred]

@@YallLameashlmaooo exactly this person has no clue what they’re talking about and that one person who they know means EVERYONE

[@hawk66100]

Most alcoholics aren’t violent.

[@starfr]

as someone with many addicts in my family of all sorts, including parents. I felt his pain when he said “100 days he was sober” because he knows exactly what that means and feels like and she at the moment did not, that fucking urked me.

[@MMAdiehardfan]

I mean lip he sabotaged his own life being a drunk he’s one to talk . He literally ruined his own life to !!

[@starfr]

@MMAdiehardfan firstly he was trying to better himself. Your life isn't ruined when you're trying to better it, awful thing to say about that. And because of what he's done to his own life is exactly the reason why he can talk and say something is because he wanted better for someone else too. Since when is that wrong?

[@plgjp83]

@@MMAdiehardfani am no alcoholic but based on testimonies of addict I somewhat feel that’s EXACTLY why he’s super pissed. They are constantly afraid of themselves, afraid of falling back. I remember a huge success like Tom Hardy testimony on this. Each day is a victory. Each landmark is huge. Lip is livid because he knows in his guts what it takes. And the pain when you fail when you hoped you were finally free. To some extent I can understand his pain and anger.

[@roxyredrose1]

Offering someone a drink without asking if they’re in AA is literally so normal like what. She didn’t even offer he asked for it. She had no way of knowing he was in AA the fuck

[@u.s.s.chucklefucker1657]

1) She was drunk in the middle of the day. That's not normal. 2) had she not been drunk, she'd've realized he was a recovering addict of some kind. 3) She says she's not sad, she's sorry she caused a relapse by being drunk in the middle of the day. That's not a heart-felt apology.

[@EPICSAWIKI]

I interpret it as a way for him to vent his frustrations about HER alcoholism.

[@rauluis]

Is not about who's in the right, even if it wasn't her fault he's allowed to be upset, since that guy was 100 days sober and then went did H, that's how a lot of people's story end. Plus it was an accumulation of things that exploded at that moment.

[@christopherhammond7258]

​@@rauluishe may be allowed to he upset but he ain't allowed to blame everyone else for his failings....he knew she had a drink8ng problem and he knew they may come into contact he was the sponsor after all so he should of told her to stay away from him or aleast tell her he's in sobriety.... its defo more on him than her

[@lainiwakura666]

@@christopherhammond7258thats what bothers me “nothing is your fault anymore fiona?” Like ,Lip this was on you and the guy who decided to drink himself

[@darkshogun5887]

Unless the guy told Fiona that he was a user or in recovery, she wouldn't know and wouldn't think to ask. Only reason I figured it out was because the camera showed him staring at the vodka like it had life saving medicine in it.

[@TheProductofFallout]

That's the point... Fiona knows exactly what alcoholism looks like. She also probably knows what someone trying to be sober but is still struggling looks like. Before Fiona started slipping and became an alcoholic, she would have noticed that he was not okay. But she was drunk and only cared about having someone to drink with, and so she ignored all the signs that he was a recovering addict. That is why lip was saying that she didn't care enough to notice

[@Julius-tp9mg]

​​@@TheProductofFallout She was drunk and wasn't paying attention to his face. Also he asked for a drink, it would've been rude to say no when she had no idea he was in recovery.

[@giovannicervantes2053]

​@@Julius-tp9mgI honestly thought at first him saying "You mind?" As a would you mind taking that away but he also left it open enough for her to think he just wants some drink

[@IDiggPattyMayonnaise]

Did you miss the part where Lip said "you didn't care enough to know." Old Fiona wouldve cared enough to know. She turned into Frank. Lip turned into Fiona.

[@darkshogun5887]

@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise Do you go around asking people if they are recovering drug addicts or alcoholics? If I drunk alcohol and someone asked for some, i wouldn't cross my mind to ask them if they are in recovery.

[@thewebster3152]

Fiona when Lip was at his lowest- "Let me get you a job at the restaurant where I work. Encourage you to go back to school while also providing a roof over your head, and be patient with you and your recovery from alcoholism." Lip when Fiona is at her lowest - "GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, YOU WASTE OF AIR!!"

[@natasha5553]

EXACTLY

[@flyingrat492]

Lips self destructive was self destructive, Fiona’s self destructive killed or almost killed quite a few people.

[@thewebster3152]

@@flyingrat492 Lip hurt a bunch of people on his journey to recovery! Great example, when he tried to make Charlie relapse! Or when he attack a security guard on his college campus, the guy is not perfect

[@Brandonweifu]

​when did anyone say he was perfect

[@lynnlove331]

@@Brandonweifui don’t think it’s that it’s there is no grace for Fiona. Being 12 years old caring for two kids is crazy. Not being taught letting the streets teach you is wild. They all got to mess up. She was not allowed that chance. Yes Liam almost died and eventually she did take accountability but her siblings did terrible shit as well.

[@Edgerunner2049]

Lip was by far my most favorite character in this show aside from Ian.. magnificent actors for both of them as well.

[@wadewilson4353]

As a child of a parent who was an alcoholic i can understand the rage in lips eyes, but at the same time. A bottle has looked mighty good to me some days.

[@CloudyWolf713]

Hey. You doing ok?

[@HistoricMold440]

"You didn't care enough to know" bc she's supposed to just assume some random guy who asks for a drink is a recovering alcoholic and drug addict

[@Issacandjacob]

Don’t drink. Don’t smoke. Don’t party. Stay with your family and protect them. The world is not your friend kiddo

[@JaynxtDoor]

Because all she did was drink and didn’t care enough to be involved with her siblings.

[@HistoricMold440]

@@JaynxtDoor You gotta be joking right?she literally gave up her future to take care of them. Not her fault they're all bastards

[@JaynxtDoor]

@ they’ve all sacrificed. She became her father while Lip was being the semi-responsible one.

[@9EricCN3]

I wish the scene where Lip met Jason on the street and held him as he cried was included in this video. EXTREMELY powerful scene, especially if you're familiar with the horrors of addiction and relapse...it honestly broke my heart...

[@antoniewest]

She sacrificed everything for them, taking care of them even when Fiona needed help with her alcoholism. Despite always being there for others when they were at their lowest, when she needed support, especially from Philip and Debbie, they were selfish and treated her poorly, I don’t blame Fiona for leaving because her life and that house was insane.

[@muddynutz]

you just tryin to stick fiona. she is and always has been the worst. selfish, blaming everyone else when she fucks up. and can never admit she is wrong, which she is often

[@balexhtx]

Fiona had multiple times to have an amazing career which would’ve made her taking care of the kids 100x easier , but it’s this Fiona that is the one who always fucks it up herself .

[@WhippedforMinho]

Fiona was selfish. You guys are talking like she is so selfless when she had done so many messed up things and never took accountability, and whenever her actions caused major problems she played the victim. Plus once she found a tiny bit of success she completely stopped caring about her family

[@shayla106]

@@WhippedforMinho🧢🧢🧢🧢👌🏾

[@WhippedforMinho]

@@shayla106 my comment states the truth

[@c00mgoblin]

I think everyone’s forgetting it’s not just the fact that Fiona gave Jason the booze but it was her nonchalant attitude about it. She didn’t give a fuck, so in Lip’s mind, why should he give a fuck about Fiona if she doesn’t give a fuck about anything anymore? It doesn’t justify everything but just because Fiona had a rough childhood (like all of them did) doesn’t give her the right to do whatever she wants. Both of them have valid sides.

[@shinydevil9294]

Did you see previous episodes she faced far worst stuff they all did . She was calm because she don't care just worst stuff happened before.

[@Khaleesi_Jack]

I'm gonna politely disagree. I've not watched this show since season 8 I think, but from this clip and the comments, I got a solid grasp. Ultimately, no it was not Fiona's fault at all. Surprisingly, she shared something with someone, who ASKED, which is simply a kind gesture, on a surface level. How is she supposed to know that he's got 100 days clean, or that lip was his sponsor? Unless either of them told her, it falls back on the dude himself. He looks over 18, he's an adult, it is his responsibility to make the right decisions for himself.

[@mezasepkmn]

Nah i’m ngl, Lip LOST me when he tried to use that point to get angry at her. Lip never mentioned him to Fiona, she literally didn’t know who he was, what his problems were, or anything of the sort, & Lip lashed out on her for HIS actions. He was way more justified when arguing for Xan, but for Jason? fully blaming that on Fiona was insane

[@l.c.7955]

​@@mezasepkmn Fiona knew he worked with alcoholics, just like she works with addicts.

[@stxrmz9955]

@@Khaleesi_Jack if she wasnt drunk 247 with a bottle of vodka in her hand just like her father then it wouldnt have happened it truly is her fault even if she didnt mean to

[@Shmancyfancy536]

Fiona: “I’m sorry I didn’t know” Lip: “No, you didn’t care enough to know” Those might be some of the hardest lines I’ve EVER heard.

[@envenomedsiren]

that was his friend. not fiona's. he wouldn't have that same mindset if it was the other way around.

[@uhhyehno3215]

Fiona looked after everyone but no one looked after her 💔

[@tremoore5465]

Exactly then made some mistakes and they just turned their back her

[@Damodred_Heiress]

@@tremoore5465because her mistakes had devastating consequences. just because you had it rough doesn’t mean it’s okay for you to make things rough for others.

[@davidortiz3094]

Fiona is a freakin hypocrite. The biggest one in the show.

[@ArRoNDaNiEl-yi2up]

To be fair lip had no business trying to adopt that kid

[@imsocentral2872]

Everyone is always turning their back on Fiona at her lowest but when they all were at their lowest she was there bright and early to save the day🤦🏾‍♂️

[@The_FallenKnight]

But alcoholism is no excuse for fucking things up, she needs to flux herself and not becoming female Frank 😂

[@jetnight88]

I agree.... That's why I hate about people when they're there for you. You should be there for them

[@geligniteandlilies]

I hated that. Like I understand all too well that the point is no one gets out of these situations unscathed but come on. Especially cause he chose the guy he was sponsoring over her. She’s supposed to know everyone’s addiction status?

[@bootneyleefarnsworth1788]

Please, she left coke on the table and Liam got to it. They forgave her. She got all the passes she deserved.

[@finnmacmanus5723]

Just not true at all, lip was there for her so many times when she was at her lowest, they all forgave her and moved on when she literally almost killed Liam. Please

[@simonl5074]

Lip was the best character by far in this show. This actor is so good

[@L3Vł4TH4N.7]

Sorry but she has a point. No one has ever asked if anyone is in AA. It’s not her responsibility ultimately either to check who can and can’t drink due to addiction. If you’re a struggling addict it’s up to you to save yourself. You can’t expect someone to come when you need it most you have to be able to find a way to ask for the help yourself if you need it. He had every opportunity to call Lip before he asked for that drink and every opportunity to walk away from her drinking. Lip has a right to be mad but he shouldn’t be mad at her.

[@THEDJADAN]

I think Fiona definitely should take accountability for her consumption and how that might affect others even without her knowing. Although unknowingly, her excessive drinking to the point of carrying around a personal bottle of hard liquor like that incites potential relapse. it’s like a disease. Misery loves company.

[@PhantomXKR._.]

Nice victim blaming, real good look

[@suggestagoodnameformeplz1035]

​@@PhantomXKR._. OP is right though...coming from a family with many addiction issues, the 1st step to getting better is understanding that only you can be responsible for your actions, its up to you to distance yourself from things that could cause you to relapse, other people can't be clean for you🤷‍♂️

[@sweetrolldealer]

according to people who watch the show the people employed at that shop are all in AA, including Lip. Fiona knew better

[@V1DE0]

You're talking as though Fiona held the guy down and forcibly pumped the alcohol down his throat. The guy might be a victim but he made himself the victim, not Fiona. The person you replied to wasn't victim blaming. But even if he was, you can't fault someone for that as much when the victim chose to victimize themselves.

[@JDizzleRizzle]

Lip blaming Fiona for his slip-ups without remorse was his most shameless act

[@alexandrews8791]

Lip was by far the best character on the show and he was played by a tremendous actor well done !!!!

[@Seraphina.Is.]

He definitely was not the best. He was arrogant and mean and quite frankly he was a hypocrite

[@Luka-sz3ej]

He was definitely the worst out of all of them

[@matelko333]

he was the worst. he didn't deserve Fiona as his sister who sacrificed everything for him meanwhile he treated her like sh*t

[@Luka-sz3ej]

@@matelko333 yeah he was always the first one to blame her because he was so thirsty to be the leader of the family, but once fiona left he completely threw all of them under the bus, even wanted to sell the house just because he was too broke to figure his way out

[@matelko333]

@@Luka-sz3ej fr. it's crazy how people still like his character

[@mariem8705]

0:47 she’s tired man. She’s just so f’ing tired. That’s what that face looks like.

[@shelldie8523]

Alcoholism looks like exhaustion now

[@kyledcunningham]

She’s becoming her father. A POS alcoholic that only cares about herself.

[@stancinatti8198]

Facts

[@stancinatti8198]

@@shelldie8523u must not watch the show Fiona carried that family for so long they wouldn’t have made it without her

[@themastter8]

@@stancinatti8198so that just makes it okay? She’s trashed here

[@berserkerpatriotstore9025]

I always thought one of the lines in this scene should have been.You're turning in the frank

[@valeriepilon7565]

By far one of my favorit show's I have watched it so many times and I never get tired of watching it.

[@Lovejdrama]

Some

[@gertieisonline]

i see Fiona's side alot she did everything for them, she raised Lip, Ian, Debbie, carl and Liam its crazy to kick her out of the house when she is the reason Lip is still alive.

[@luckypanda7707]

Her raising them isn't an excuse to spiral like she was doing.

[@javinnrucker9721]

As a person from the Midwest it’s so hard not to notice their New York accents in this Chicago based show😂Especially when they’re arguing it’s extra heavy lmao

[@SuperBigdude77]

They have New York accents? It's doesn't sound New York to me. I'm not from New York. I guess I'm more use to the stereotypical New York accent.

[@sweetrolldealer]

@@SuperBigdude77 you're used to the Italian variant of the accent.

[@onomstarr]

"The old Fiona wouldve handled this" translates to "I expect you to ALWAYS cover for me, why didnt you?". Fiona being drunk in the middle of the day is a problem on its own, but knowing she drinks and still expecting to have her cover for him on demand is stupid. And magically expecting her to know about his sponsee is both stupid AND irresponsible. Sobriety is a 2 way street, as i know myself, and expecting people you meet to know what you're trying to avoid is stupid. You AVOID those situations, as is YOUR responsibility. That entire family grew dependant on Fiona to solve all of their problems (Debbie wanting her to lie to the welfare office on her behalf, Lip wanting her to keep up appearances for CPS while knowing she is an alcoholic/substance abuser); it makes sense that eventually Fiona would get sick of it and leave.

[@beckyweiss6072]

It also is unsurprising that Fiona would break in self destructive methods if she feels everyone is taking and no one is giving like she is

[@YujinH]

Fiona and lip were definitely my two favorite characters Both had an extremely bright future that they both messed up, rebuilt, messed up again, then finally rebuilt again but the roads they took to get to where we left them were filled with so much gravel, they were both the oldest sibling and when shit got rough they stepped up, Fiona was the backbone of the family and after years of trying to figure life out she tumbled and fell, I don’t blame the fam for not coming to her rescue but it does suck knowing nobody did, some tried but unfortunately they couldn’t do what she did for them when she was much younger, seeing lip go in on her for her careless frank behavior really sent chills down my spine because it’s the same way she used to speak to frank. And I think that was the writers intention. I still adore both characters and their upbringing and lack of parents really did play a roll on how dysfunctional they acted toward each other, but I’m glad lip was able to shake her up a bit, without really being mean, just more frustrated, and when she left I think she took a part of the shows magic with her, but having lip take over her position was a good call

[@plazali]

I fuckin hate how she chuckles after someone tells her something she’s legitimately doing wrong

[@envenomedsiren]

what is she doing wrong? giving someone alcohol without knowing their problems?

[@plazali]

@ yes, but specifically not owning up to it. Yeah she didn’t know beforehand but she does now and even still acts like she’s a saint

[@ludenprime]

When she left, all the good story ideas for the show left too. And finally I did too.

[@robertcook2589]

hold on she didnt wave vodka in his face anyways jason had a choice to stay clean and lip just doesnt want to admit he was he cant fix everyone and has no right to kick fiona out

[@ConnorDamewood]

Holy wow am I glad you aren’t a sponsor for anyone.

[@Trahzy]

​@ConnorDamewood Sorry but many recovering addicts blame everyone else, just like they did when they were using. It isn't the rest of our fault you have an issue.

[@TheLawv1001]

Loved these two in the show and the characters. They really had a different level of respect and understanding of each other being the oldest. I also here Lip is most hurt by the fact it was her and that the one that helped him the most is turning into the same type of person their dad was. It's a really good show and really is true to the situations

[@minemma1337]

So Lip helped everyone but he couldn't help his sister, pathetic

[@jordtuber]

LITERALLY MY POINT, he was willing to help random strangers than his own sister who was going through the same addiction he was so upset about Jason relapsing on like he’s so hypocritical

[@minemma1337]

@jordtuber Philip always acted like he was better than everyone else and knew it all. Maybe his academic success made him think that way, but socially, he was the total opposite. If it weren't for some of his good moments and character growth, he'd easily be the worst character in the show for me-especially with his unhealthy obsession with Karen and how he left Mandy, who genuinely loved him.

[@kamsandwich6990]

I’m surprised she actually shared her vodka!!

[@mzzanthropy___project]

Lip WAS an alcoholic. Now he’s a recovering alcoholic at this point in the show. Fiona hasn’t even hit her rock bottom yet. Whereas Lip has already been there, done that. Lip had to let Fiona hit rock bottom on her own in order to get her to realize how powerless she really is; and he only wanted what was best for her and chose the tough love route to help her get there. Sometimes that’s the only way to help someone you love. It may not make sense for Fiona (or anyone who can relate to Fiona) or anyone from the outside at that point in time but it will eventually. Fiona, Lip, or anybody doesn’t have control over anyone or anything. IMO, Fiona needed this!!! But it is heartbreaking that Lip’s sponsee had to pay the price, though. However, as someone who is in recovery, I think that relapses are all part of the process. Otherwise how can you evolve towards recovery if you’re not making mistakes to learn from them? NO PAIN, NO GAIN!!

[@matelko333]

are you really justifying him kicking her out after everything she has done for him? she needs help, not to get kicked out of her own house tf

[@mzzanthropy___project]

@@matelko333 It’s called tough love. And it worked. I definitely do not justify Fiona continuing down the rabbit hole where it affects the rest of the family. Specifically the younger ones who likely needed their bigger sister sober and back to herself. Not another Frank.

[@matelko333]

@@mzzanthropy___project no way you just compared Fiona to frank... no fcking way

[@mzzanthropy___project]

@@matelko333I didn’t compare Fiona to Frank. Im pretty sure that words are being put in my mouth right now. In context I said she’s better than Frank, and Lip knows that his sister needs help before she completely loses everything!!! Most importantly herself. Fiona immediately ran to V for support. V paid Lip a visit and asked why the animosity towards Fiona. Lip even asks V not to let Fiona stay at her house “if she was really Fiona’s friend and if she truly loves her…” then she’s not going to let Fiona stay at her and Kevs place. Shameless is one of my favourite shows (both US 🇺🇸 and UK 🇬🇧 versions) Why? Because I can relate to the storyline, characters, and events that occur within the series. A lot. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Im not the only one. This happens everyday, everywhere, and anywhere. Lots of families experience this unfortunate situation. Alcoholism, Addiction, Mental Health, etc.

[@matelko333]

@@mzzanthropy___project the point is Fiona did everything for Lip and always supported him. Lip has always been ungrateful and turned around on his family. he could have made his and ALL of theirs life better but he simply REFUSED

[@Conk-bepis]

Lip later tried to be a wrestler with his 4 brothers but lost his leg in a bike accident, then he decided to open his own Restaurant after becoming a Michelin starred chef.

[@SomeguyonYT2-r4h]

Carl just being there😂

[@_G_H_0_S_T]

That weird smiling thing she does would drive me insane, not gonna lie.

[@Badname2011]

fiona is the only one in that family who sacrificed anything for the family.

[@johnnyringo2695]

no she's not, if sacrifice you mean giving coke to the little black one sure

[@xx0t4kuxx99]

He legit said "do you mind"

[@PrinceDevitt_V2]

Everyone is looking at this based on what these siblings have done, Lip by all means was never perfect it was but it was because of how hard Fiona was on him that he was able to stop his own self destruction, as a younger sibling, it would break my heart to see my sister self destruct like that, Lip wasn't lashing out at her because he was angry, he did it because he was disappointed wit what his sister was doing, she can't expect him to hold himself accountable for his fuck ups if she's not holding herself accountable for hers, at the end of the day he didn't want her becoming anything remotely close to their parents

[@Naidyonov7]

So he kicked her out. Smart decision...like wtf

[@PrinceDevitt_V2]

@@Naidyonov7 just cause your someone's family doesn't mean you have to condone their choices and actions, would u be OK allowing your sis to continue living with you if it means that what happened could repeat itself, sometimes tough love is the best love to give it's sucks, but alot of times it works out, I'm living proof of that, but at the same time, I understand why you feel that way

[@Naidyonov7]

@@PrinceDevitt_V2 i mean sometimes yes, but Fiona cared for them. And Lip pays her back by showing though love by kicking her out. I mean restricting her or punishing her some other way is understandable. But kicking your sister out on her lowest, with 50/50 chance She might end up as a homeless drunk is just being careless.

[@PrinceDevitt_V2]

​@@Naidyonov7 like I said I understand but take it from someone who was literally in this same situation when he was 14, I watch my older bro kick out my older sis, and if she were still on the streets today guess what, she'd tell you herself it would be her fault for ending up and remaining in that position, stop making excuses for Fiona she's a grown ass woman who knows right from wrong, like I said Lip was never perfect but then again alot of his decisions never truly led to no one's life being jeopardy, or did you all of a sudden forget what happened to Liam when Fiona had to keep an eye on him, sounds like your the type to let a whole lot of things and people slide no matter how server or fucked up it may be

[@Neroevelocity]

Cut out the best part when Frank walks in and she realizes she's becoming him.

[@Tennisisreallyfun]

I mean, Lip said it here, didn’t he? “The old Fiona would have handled this”. That’s what he expected from her, a cover, a sounding board, and in many ways, a parent. When she even slipped a tiny bit, that was it for her in his eyes. Ungrateful doesn’t even begin to describe it.

[@davidhernandez4395]

😂😂

[@onomstarr]

"The old Fiona wouldve handled this" translates to "I expect you to ALWAYS cover for me, why didnt you?". Fiona being drunk in the middle of the day is a problem on its own, but knowing she drinks and still expecting to have her cover for him on demand is stupid. And magically expecting her to know about his sponsee is both stupid AND irresponsible. Sobriety is a 2 way street, as i know myself, and expecting people you meet to know what you're trying to avoid is stupid. You AVOID those situations, as is YOUR responsibility. That entire family grew dependant on Fiona to solve all of their problems (Debbie wanting her to lie to the welfare office on her behalf, Lip wanting her to keep up appearances for CPS while knowing she is an alcoholic/substance abuser); it makes sense that eventually Fiona would get sick of it and leave.

[@alcidedragon]

​@@onomstarrI think you just don't understand much

[@noctier9385]

He made the right call

[@danieln7591]

​@@onomstarrLip called her out for fucking up like "old Fiona" would. Just because she had it bad and had to be responsible for siblings doesn't make her immune to having her mistakes called out it's her own standard she's being held to.

[@Shuyin781]

It's with dark moments like this that the show reminds us that fiona really is Frank's daughter.

[@Aemilius46]

Remember that Fiona lost her childhood, and had to raise her siblings!!

[@jasonmurdoc9533]

She sure won’t let anyone forget!

[@brookelynnwu8016]

Having bâd things happen to you is not an excuse to do bâd things to others. You keep that vïctim mindset and you’ll become the biggest mønster there is.

[@Brandonweifu]

Ok and?

[@matelko333]

​@@brookelynnwu8016 what bad thing has she done? it's not her fault the guy relapsed tf???

[@user-slay275]

@@matelko333uh? She literally left drugs around her youngest brother and hospitalized him. Sounds pretty bad to me.

[@Drm3221]

Let this be a lesson to everyone! It doesnt matter how much someone has bent over backwards for you. If they are a drain on you in this moment, cut them off without a moment’s hesitation

[@romanj5256]

She should’ve done that to lip way earlier then

[@Drm3221]

@@myheadhurtbro6692 my bad, I thought it was obvious by my verbiage that I was being sarcastic. She literally raised them against all adversity for years and years and years. Her stint with alcoholism was what, a couple of months or something small like that? No they’re not obligated to help them in turn, nor is anyone, buuuuut I feel like on principle they should want to, in a circumstance like this

[@sillygo0oser]

Yeah, when someone refuses to help themself you do not have to stick around. You cannot control people and you either let them drag you down or you take them out of your life.

[@justindza]

I feel this should not be applied to all situations. If someone has truly bent over backwards for you in the past, they deserve the benefit of the doubt.

[@elizahamilton5599]

Lmao her siblings don’t owe her anything. She’s not a goodness to worship, she’s a selfish alcoholic and narcissist

[@axgg13.ed1tz]

Lip had it with Fiona. And getting his sponsor drunk was the last straw. You can *tell* he was done.

[@IanHamilton-ed9rv]

I forgot how messy Fiona was during her last season. Along with how that nasty breakup with Ford would lead to her hitting rock bottom....again. Hurricane Fiona doesn't fall far from the tree after all. Then again, that "quick" reality check from her lawyer of her avoiding jail time near the end of season 9 seems to fit well with her finally moving on from being an official Mom to her siblings. Could've taken Liam because of legal reasons, but I digress.

[@Vindaya_]

Every time Fiona laughs/smiles I find her broken but just insane thinking she can get away with everything. Reminds me too much of my dad

[@JoshuaRamsey-y8m]

Most of this comment section is a Fiona rescue party

[@Lolveud]

Yea because she isn't to blame. Lip never told her about DCFS or Jason. You can't blame someone for something they didn't know

[@JoshuaRamsey-y8m]

@@Lolveud lmfao please, now we don’t wanna hold adults accountable for their fuck ups like that’s not what she was doing from day 1 with frank, now the shoe is on the other foot

[@FuryNotFurry]

​@@LolveudShe's a terrible person, immature, and an alcoholic

[@peepeepoopoo6053]

@@JoshuaRamsey-y8mand how does jason have anything to do with her? she’s just supposed to know everyone who’s an alcoholic?

[@mollyrobinson2679]

​@@JoshuaRamsey-y8myeah she for sure fucked up and she said she was sorry but again she had no idea. What was she meant to do? Yeah she could have been more remorseful but I honestly get why she's so jaded. Lip kicked her out after she'd done everything for them. She qas having a hard time and she needed to get her life back on track yes but the way Lip was going about it all was not it.

[@cris10demon]

being addict to alcool the 'hundred days he was sobber" really hit hard

[@oxymuse001]

What really pissed me off is how when Lip was going through alcoholism, Fiona was always trying to help and bail him out of the fights he got into. But then when she fell into it, all he did was chastise and bully her and kick her out… double standards.

[@dellh86]

This show is something that has really grown with me. I started watching it in my late teens and I liked, but I think I was too young to fully understand the complex themes it addresses.....maybe I'm due for a rewatch

[@grapelund]

“You didn’t care enough to know” Yeah, because people have their own issues to deal with. Like she said, she didn’t know

[@alexanderchippel]

She should've. It's not hard to pay attention to the people around you.

[@grapelund]

@@alexanderchippel You’re right about that, but 9 out of 10, you would only do that if it was someone or something you cared about. Did lip do his part as a sponsor and tell Fiona that this friend of his was a recovering addict??

[@shayla106]

@@alexanderchippelNope, don’t treat people like mind readers. It’s selfish.

[@alexanderchippel]

@@shayla106 You should treat people like adults who can pick up on social ques and know how to ask questions and gauge reactions. It's not mind reading, is basic human interaction.

[@KatOD1992]

@@alexanderchippel No, you should treat people like adults who can make their own decisions, destructive or not. Even if she did have an intuition, it's not her responsibility. She wasn't pressuring him he asked for it. It's sad but it's on him.

[@nelsouls1216]

Lip never took responsibility for his own actions

[@garrettp7003]

The character assassination of fiona as the show went on was just too much

[@makokiller13]

One of the deepest lines said to Fiona, by Frank of all people, was when he called her an "Angry Drunk". Frank of all people being one of the worst people to judge on being an alcoholic, actually sees right through her and himself and still being able to separate himself as a drunk and a drug addict, from someone who bottles up every emotion they have and releases them when they are drunk. Anger, depression, anxiety. Frank feels these when he is sober. Fiona has had to hide most of these, for the sake of her siblings for years, she can't when she drinks.

[@lionheartpt4555]

People like to defend fiona like what she did for her siblings is a get out of jail free card for every bs she did wrong for the rest of her entire existence. Well it isn't,what she did any other older sibling worth a pinch of salt would have done and does every day. And the biggest bs is that she actually showed that card any time it was convenient for her when she did some stupid thing or ruined someone else's life. What people don't realize when they defend her is that every time they do they mention frank and monica being horrible parents while completely disregarding that fiona literally turned into them and acted the exact same way they did. Every thing she did that was messed up was never her fault,all she cared about was herself,being drunk and high and doing anything she could do get that,she brough nothing but Misery and difficulty into the family and others around them. She Turned into frank and always used Frank being a douche to justify her being the same. Both her and debbie were the most detestable people in this entire series and the worse part is that people like this actually exist.

[@vibrantdonkey8589]

Yeah Fiona sacraficed a lot for them but that doesn't mean she can just fall in a downward spiral without any comments because of what she did.

[@hectorperez5474]

Fiona did more than frank the kids were horrible to her every time they was in trouble she was there but when she was in trouble nobody was there everything u said was invalid frank literally left his son in a trap House

[@luckypanda7707]

@@hectorperez5474you are literally doing what the comment says is bullshit to do. Saying that what she's doing is justified or more okay just because frank and Monica were horrible. The fact is that she was hurting people with her issues and was TURNING into those horrible people that were her parents

[@MissKatieJaneRigglar]

I absolutely love Emmy Rossum as she is a super talented actress and singer 🥰❤

[@mr.peepee6373]

Baby frank 😆 🤣 😂

[@SpenserJones-x1p]

Season 9 was undoubtedly the best

[@deer541]

Looking at the comments with people debating which character is more wrong than the other is kind of he beauty of this show. Discussion about those grey areas. Some more dark then others. Fiona is the kind of character who needs to reach bottom to feel the consequences of her actions. Lip knows that. He knows she won't change by herself and he won't wait for her to take responsibility. I don't think any of them is right or wrong. They are doing their best with the tools they were giving. But I think Lip had to do something here and he did. Their way of showing love to each other often was to put them in front of the mirror.

[@shameless]

Beautifully put! The ethical gray areas are what grounds this show.

[@DVDTAPEAFKs]

The one who was in the wrong the most was Lip. He never really appreciated Fiona up until she left the show. Fiona was always the one cleaning up after their mess. Lip here is the one looking for problems by trying to adopt a kid that doesn't belong to him. Why is he taking his anger out on her for not knowing anything about a DCFS worker knocking on her door? 1.) It's his fault for not telling her about DCFS. 2.) It's not her business to interfere with his affairs if he didn't talk to her about this arrangement. 3.) It's not Lip's house, so I don't know why he feels entitled to adopt a kid when he's earning minimum wage with no legal rent contract in that house. If Fiona disagrees with Xan living in the house, then it can complicate the adoption process since Lip was thinking about squeezing her siblings in 1 room to provide Xan with her own room. All I see is Lip being narcissistic and an asshole to Fiona when all he's doing is throwing more problems on her for his own selfish benefits. he's become so dependent on Fiona that he expects her to cover for his problems. Lip deserves to live with that pain because he's ungrateful.

[@DanielRodriguez-eh1qd]

I’ve been sober for 7 years now, I can imagine how tough it was for him to ask for a drink and then slowly grab the cup. I’ve had several people thru out the years try to get me to drink and I’ll never blame them. It’s hard to see what’s it like while you’re drinking. You don’t really think about others and I’ll never blame them for that, I know how it is.

[@KingBlavk]

Lip acts like he’s not a fuck up

[@KingBlavk]

@0311catholic true but he still acted like he wasn’t never a messed up

[@KingBlavk]

@0311catholic understood, but I said what I said and 11 others have agreed. 😎

[@DVDTAPEAFKs]

"Why the hell did you let DCFS in here?" Why wasn't he at home in time to attend his DCFS tour? Why didn't he let Fiona know there was a DCFS worker coming? "Do you have any idea how much you fucked this up for me?" Why is that on Fiona? Why is Lip looking for more problems when he can't even attend a DCFS worker? "The old Fiona would've handled this, would have spun shit, would have covered for me." Why should she do shit for Lip? It's not Fiona's business to receive or help Lip with his affairs. You looked for problems, you fix them. "I know someone waved vodka in his face." No TF she didn't LMAO. Jason himself told him that it wasn't her intentions to make him relapse again; she was looking for Lip, not Jason. "You didn't care enough to know." Like he's the one to talk about caring; its not like he judged and trashed Fiona for being a drunk the same way he was a drunk in university; the difference is Fiona helped him while he pushed her under the bridge. Lip has become so complacent and so dependent and tries to make Fiona look like a halfwit even though she's the only one who actually achieved greater things than him; Lip has no place to talk because he's constantly looking for problems and loves to judge Fiona.

[@TennoHaki]

Lip blaming her for adults making their own choices.

[@ibdustin15]

A lot of people are saying when she chuckled that they thought Lip was going to flip out. I almost feel like the chuckle was her smiling because she was proud of lip. She sees herself before her alcoholism and when she was head of the house. Lip has taken over the household and is running it like she would’ve run it years ago.

[@sebiieex]

God you just don't see acting like this anywhere else.

[@michael_mj2592]

Lip knows in order for her to sober she needs to hit rock bottom, she basically went through everything lip has in her own way

[@damionluna4426]

Waved vodka in his face please shows how little lip knows his own sister

[@yarpieyarp7733]

awwww yes. a trip down memory lane.

[@the.blue_alien]

Lip couldve said something, LITERALLY ANYTHING to fiona or any of them. But no, he didn't, so now he had to pay for it. Both situations werent exactly fionas fault, she didnt have to walk around with alcohol on just a regular day and drag someone with her or she couldve made some effort to make lip look good when she realized it was DPS, but ultimately the blame falls on lip.

[@gp-1542]

God the actors are amazing

[@happyexiled]

What if Jason went to a bar instead of getting a drink from Fiona and got shitfaced, would Lip blame the bartender for not "caring enough to know" he was 100 days sober?

[@cherrysIushie]

Good point

[@CurrentlyObsessively]

A day drunk doesn't sip liquor like that. They gulp it.

[@Kyle-gm5dw]

I kinda hate how lip treated her how they alll treated her when they got older but i can see lips pov here....

[@elizahamilton5599]

Yes Fiona lost her childhood but that’s no excuse for how she acted. Fiona turned into frank

[@violetcovers5699]

​@elizahamilton5599 the thing is all of them had moments where they were mimicking their parents the difference is so long as Fiona was sober she would do everything to get them back on the right track instead of doing this

[@Bonbonbon739]

Lip has some balls to try to kick Fiona out because he feels like an adult for the last year.

[@perro79]

The acting in this show is amazing.

[@anomie1998]

Morale of the story: Hurt people, hurt people.

[@coachellalyricist]

Fiona and the actor who play her suck - you cant "fake act" that psychotic and delusional - Emmy Rossum wasnt faking that ego/apathy combo

[@SavantPete]

Fiona really did f*ck up. I wish Lip brought her to AA instead of kicking her out. He literally knows what's she's been through and went through the same things she went through

[@rgkong8783]

I can understand why Lip was upset, but after all that Fiona has done for him, this was fucked up of Lip.

[@Onurb2821]

Fiona also threw Lip out of the house in earlier seasons for way less and when Lip threw her out, Fiona was damaging not only everyone's lives but also her own. She did a lot for all of them but that's not an excuse to drag them all down again.

[@JoeGramlich-o9b]

Me as an alcoholic I wouldn't even try to get that little shot to drink I wouldn't even get started with that

[@kmacwills8709]

At the end of the day, this is how poorly he is treating the woman that practically raised him…yeah she’s fucking up, yeah she’s on a bender, yeah she doesn’t care anymore…this isn’t how you handle somebody who has given everything for others and YOU (specifically you to know better and right from wrong) and is now filling it with the only thing she knows how’s. Fiona deserved so much more compassion than shit from others.

[@christytorres3273]

You cannot save an alcoholic they have to help themselves. My stepfather was drunk and never did anything good except die. My mother was addicted to prescription drugs over med and self med. Myself My brother and sister made it out damaged. My brother was addicted to drugs and alcohol he died in 2017. My sister had to move to another state she is happy healthy and living her best life. I have a great family unfortunately I could not have around an addict can't be trusted