Lipsey's Exclusive: Ruger LCR 32 H&R Magnum

[@CyborgZeta]

.32 H&R Magnum is the ideal snubnose revolver cartridge, in my opinion. Very good balance of recoil and power.

[@FMDad-dm5qo]

It really is. We just need one widely distributed (I.e. you can buy a box at BassBela’s) factory defense load that isn’t wimp loaded. The Federal and Hornady JHP offerings are sporadic and really need another 75-100 fps to shine.

[@EricFullwood]

H&R Mag's are my pocket EDC but in my .327 LCR. I load Buffalo Bore .32L wad cutters in the summer for a lighter carry.

[@FMDad-dm5qo]

If you are a serious shooter and wanna run one of these Lipsey’s .32 H&R Mag snubs (and I like this package a lot) it will really help to handload. The savings with .32 H&R in particular are unreal. You can handload carry-quality JHP rounds for like 40 cents a round! Compared with $1.00 to $1.50/rd for factory ammo, it’s an insane difference. Revolver brass lasts a long time, doesn’t get tossed away in the grass or dinged up by an extractor. Shoot 1000 rounds of handloads and you’ve more than paid for the gun.

[@abuamiri8523]

Best I could do at a gun show this past weekend was $1.00 per round from Georgia Arms. Might be marginally better for 32 Long.

[@FMDad-dm5qo]

@@abuamiri8523 yeah .32 Long lead bullet stuff is typically around $0.75/rd but I’ve seen it for $0.60 (Serbian PPU) if you hunt hard. That’s a better price, but it’s also true that you can handload *that* stuff for more like 30 cents a pop!

[@MrEvilTag]

But how many rounds would offset the cost after buying a few hundred, if not thousand, in equipment plus materials AND TIME?

[@FMDad-dm5qo]

@@MrEvilTag I’ve got a $200 turret press ($150 when purchased) that I use to load half a dozen rifle and pistol cartridges already, and adding a new cartridge costs $60-$70 for carbide dies and a new turret head. I’ll grant you the point about time; it helps if you find reloading fun (which a lot of us do).

[@MrEvilTag]

@FMDad-dm5qo im a machinist so for me things like that outside of work feel tedious and punishing in a way haha. But i get why its fun to some

[@cct125us2]

Fantastic cartridge. Very much enjoy the 432UC

[@jrbailey3208]

What trigger pull poundage does it have? The IDIOTS at Lipsey's don't bother to provide any real world useful information; they just want us to 'take our word for it' and shell out our money! I'm trying to choose between the Taurus 327 now, or wait 6 months saving up more money, and buying either a Ruger SP101, or a used Smith, or perhaps, the Lipsey's-just been seeing some timing issues, trigger pull, and shooting low probs on YT from the 632UC. Thank you for your time. Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY

[@Bozart123]

Nice ! I have two of the S&W 632UC revolvers and they are great . But the LOST RIVER AMMO PICTURED IS OUTSTANDING!!!!! AND FOR 32 H&R its a bargain at 2 boxes of 50ea for $100 shipped to your door . best of all point of aim = piont of impact!

[@LipseysGuns]

Nice!

[@edj6369]

Unfortunately, although it’s perfectly legal (I buy most of my ammo online), Lost River won’t ship to CT. I hope they change their policy some day.

[@H.R.6688]

I really would like to see more models in 32H&R. Not necessarily 327 federal because I believe they pushed that cartridge too much.

[@Redacted-Information]

Cant find it on lipsey or ruger websites

[@michaeldaltonsr8954]

It b on both, just checked prices/specs. Unless local to Lipsey's/ must be ordered thru FFL.( Found 4 local my zip/ 1 was Academy's Sports) And, I also checked Ruger web. They b there, too.

[@Paelorian]

This is great. Smaller and lighter than light .327 snubbies that few want to load .327 in anyway, significantly lighter than the S&W Ultimate Carry .32 H&R and much easier to find and less expensive than a long-discontinued S&W AirLite H&R with scandium alloy frame and titanium cyclinder (11oz). I think an aluminum frame is appropriate for .32s and .22s. I just wish it had a rear sight of some kind. I like to be able to aim all of my guns (with a decent, quickly acquired sight picture). Even North American Arms offers good XS sights on some of their mini-revolvers. Oh well, I suppose it's nothing a gunsmith can't fix. I'm not familiar with the LCR aftermarket, maybe there's already an off-the-shelf solution like replacement polymer with an integrated rear sight.

[@TheJHMAN1]

I have the Airlite and the UC both are very good. The UC with it's decent sights is an awesome snubby.

[@Paelorian]

@@TheJHMAN1 They both look great to me. The AirLite is a lot lighter but the UC actually has real sights! At least there's a clear difference: for more powerful rounds and greaters distances, the heavier gun with sights. For a backup "get off me" gun, the sights aren't as necessary and no extra weight is needed for .32 Long. This new .32 H&R LCR splits the difference a bit, I wish it had sights and other features like the UC. It's a more traditional snubnose, although the grips it comes with are more comfortable than is traditional and between that and the polymer flex it can handle recoil better than other revolvers of it's weight (except the Chiappa Rhino). I tend to want the lightest gun available to shoot .32 Long, although to be practical I think I could more easily carry a Kel-Tec P-32 or S&W Bodyguard 2.0, which has kept me from buying a snubnose like these to carry. I still appreciate little revolvers for carry. I want to buy and carry a little NAA mini-revolver as a backup and deep concealment gun, it's still smaller and lighter than anything else (especially the .22LR frame), and they offer some very appropriate sights. If S&W ever reintroduces smaller frame sizes built for modern materials, they could make some really tiny .32s to compete with the lightest semi-auto pocket pistols. As is, J-frames still have some major advantages over most pocket pistols but they are thicker and small semi-autos have been improving (Kel-Tec, Ruger, S&W, etc.)

[@melissasmess2773]

I seriously considered this caliber but I don't shoot my .38 special either, so recoil isn't a problem and statistically 3.2 rounds is all you need for a defensive shooting. If I didn't have an LCR already I would buy it and the bronze color looks banging.

[@johnkellmer5133]

Just a guess, here, but I'd bet that if you shot this .32 h&r, you would want to shoot it again, and more often. Were I you, I think I'd consider a trade-out.

[@Brad-ic4bp]

See, for me the frame color is an immediate pass if that's all it comes in.

[@arnoldcohen1250]

Smith and Wesson should bring back an I frame 6 shot 32 revolver but in an aluminum or even a scandium frame, maybe even a titanium cylinder for the really ultimate pocket carry revolver!! Buffalo bore 32 S&W long makes that a viable option. While the I frame measurement don't seem that much smaller than the J frame, the difference is very noticeable in the hand.

[@j54allen]

See Lipsey's 432/632 Ultimate Carry S&W J-Frames - 6 shot, .32 H&R Magnum, actual sights!

[@TheJHMAN1]

I will check it out if its under 550. Would also like a 3" model with a decent rear sight.

[@Brad-ic4bp]

I just picked up the S&W 432UC and I love it. I'm wondering why the Ruger LCR didn't get the same grips and sights treatment as the J-frame UCs. They seem to be around the same price.

[@Ajibica117]

32 H&R is the 6.8 SPC of revolvers.

[@wheelguns4wheelmen802]

Picked up a Lipsey’s Exclusive S&W 632 Ultimate Carry in .32 H&R Mag after last years SHOT show, and it has quickly become my EDC, but I actually prefer the Ruger LCR over S&W J frames, so I really wish this had dropped first 😢

[@mag318]

Are these shipping yet?

[@danieldorsey8767]

I wish the would make a steel frame in 32h&r magnum

[@FMDad-dm5qo]

That’s the .327 Federal LCR; already exists as a standard item. Steel frame, 17 oz. Runs .32 H&R Mag with no problem. It’s personally what I’d get; the name of the game for these .32 snubbies is chill recoil. But that bronze/black color scheme on this run does look great.

[@herrenhajji]

@@FMDad-dm5qo Great point. That 327 is tempting as is the 32h&r lightweight model. Gonna keep my eyes peeled for a nice used 327 LCR. But agree that bronze finish on the Lipseys looks sweet and i like the lightweight of that setup. I want something i can carry easily (light weight) w/ the same Hamre Forge hook grips I have on my 22 LR LCR that are fantastic.

[@edj6369]

The 327 LCRx has a steel frame. Mine weighs 17.75 oz empty with the bantam grip. I’d prefer the lighter 32H&R for pocket carry. Note: if you install a bantam grip on an LCRx, it’s necessary to cut a small channel at the top of the grip to prevent interference with the hammer.

[@Booberius-p5l]

I’m sure it’s a fine revolver but is the price tag worth it? I own a Taurus 327 and getting .32 H&R has been a hassle. My beat up arthritic 57 year old hands will stick with my EDC Ruger Security .380. 630 rounds not one hiccup.

[@joeytomato]

Bronze and FDE may be the going trend... But I'd only be interested in all black.

[@AJohnSmith]

Not for you, then.

[@Ron-xn4wf]

Will you be getting it approved for sale in California

[@SB-mw1bg]

But it's the price of the AMMO that makes it a no go.

[@everydaycarrymonkey2691]

It'd be nice if the ammo was more available and didn't cost a ton...

[@rlaw2]

So true

[@RandyWittmann]

Ammo is a big problem for sure

[@rlaw2]

@RandyWittmann agreed

[@BertShackleford]

Great. However, we are all waiting for someone (Lyman/A-Zoom, Birchwood Casey, etc.) to make some snap caps in .32 H&R Magnum. With the rising popularity of the cartridge, it is about time the industry address this void. It would also behoove S&W and Lipsey's to provide Zeta6 with some pertinent information so they can create some more products specifically for the *_six shot_* .32 H&R Magnums. Please and thank you. Stay classy my friends.

[@robertl6196]

I have A-zoom snap caps in .32 Mag. Don't they make them any more?

[@BertShackleford]

@@robertl6196 Not for a _very_ long time. To be clear, the production code has not been discontinued. Lyman/A-Zoom simply stopped making new stock due to waning popularity of the .32 H&R Magnum cartridge. Hopefully that will change sooner than later now that the Smith & Wesson Ultimate Carry has been such a success. Stay classy my friend.

[@jasonatlipseys]

The guys at Zeta 6 are working on it.

[@pauldavidson9267]

hot glue in the primer pocket on spent brass.

[@robertleach5355]

They have them on Lymans website.​@@BertShackleford

[@FrankMcDonnell-v1o]

Much as I like J-frames, I shoot the LCR significantly better. If/when its ever available below 600 I'll get one, at the present asking, no way unless you want to throw on a night sight and the laser version of the Hogue grip.

[@JOEFACE4216]

Fix the ultimate carry revolver

[@Privat3Kag3]

Fix what exactly? I know 3 people who have them and haven't noticed any issues, I'm genuinely curious of what is going wrong with other samples.

[@kkirk1381]

@@Privat3Kag3as we speak mine is back at S&W getting repaired for light primer strikes and timing issues. Appears to be a pretty known issue.

[@Privat3Kag3]

@@kkirk1381 I appreciate the information, I'll keep an eye on firing pin protrusion.

[@Verdha603]

@@Privat3Kag3The QC on the revolvers has been rather hit and miss. Had to send my 442UC back for warranty work in May because the trigger failed to reset about once every 12-18 rounds. I could replicate the issue less frequently with snap caps.

[@bsmithhammer]

Nothing wrong with my UC.

[@JohnLeePedimore]

That's a sweet little gun. Most .32 revolvers will also shoot .32 ACP. The .32 ACP is actually a semi rimmed round. I have a Ruger Single Six chambered in .32 H&R and it shoots .32 ACP just fine. Some of the ammo companies now have defense loads in .32 ACP.

[@swissbianco]

yes but does that ruger quality still rattle as you shake it?

[@michaeldaltonsr8954]

Yepper!! I been huge fan of .32(.32 auto/S&W/S&W Long/H&R Magnum/ more recently .327 Fed Mag) for long time. @self-defense distance, + penetration + low recoil= best carry, IMO. Few people realize the importance of penetration AGAINST BODY FAT/HEAVY/EXTRA CLOTHING/MUSCULAR/ DRUG DRIVEN RAGE/etc. For self-defense, we have already admitted we are weaker/ less warrior/less inclined/less likely to be an attacker. Thus, our attackers are MORE likely to be the opposite. Prey vs Predator IS self-defense. And, .380 is still a "half-loaded" .38, to cut down recoil. A punch, yeah. But we're not fighting a boxing match, we're fighting to stop an attack, to save our lives, quickly. And, the quickest discouragement, is obtained by the quickest incapacitation. Not points for punches thrown. IMO.

[@Gieszkanne]

A S&W K frame airweight and 7 shot would be great also.

[@edj6369]

That would be a nice upgrade to the charter arms 7 shot Professional revolver in 32H&R I now own.

[@CatProvider]

I want .32 revolvers to be a thing but this feels more like the 357 Sig fad that went nowhere

[@cemetarygates2800]

Great point but I'm going for it. I didn't dive in the 357 Sig so if it does go over like a fart in church, I'm only out 1 out of 2! ....hahaha This round just makes perfect sense.

[@Roguearmy1911]

Will these be in stock soon ? I have already paid for one from my Dealer. He said he has heard nothing back!

[@cemetarygates2800]

It's Ruger and to be expected.

[@michpatriot9097]

First question.. Did lipseys fix the short stroke trigger lockup issue all LCRs have? If you partially depress trigger, then partially release(ie. Short stroke) then try to finish the trigger stoke they all lock up..and then you have to skip a cylinder to get past the problem..Crazy design flaw on Rugers part..in a adrenaline stoked moment a locked up trigger stroke is disastrous. I can pick up any LCR and make it malfunction..its like a brick wall..until you release fully and pull again..stooooopid! Nice design otherwise.

[@edj6369]

I’m familiar with what you are saying. Fortunately not an issue with my 327 LCRx. Try as I may I can’t cause the problem. Don’t know if it has been fixed, is unique to the LCR, or if I’m just lucky.

[@smuniz9987]

Too hard to find the ammo.

[@darrenvanderwilt1258]

Still, finding .32 anything in my area is extremely difficult. Until ammunition becomes available, this revolver will sit on the shelf.

[@stevestone5671]

Why not order online? It is readily available at any number of online vendors.

[@Brad-ic4bp]

@@stevestone5671 VERY available online, albeit not a huge selection of brands. There's also .32 Long available online. But no, you won't find it on the shelf anywhere (maybe a superstore like Cabelas).

[@roberthart6434]

32H&R fits in 327 mag. Why not just make a 327 mag that can shoot both?

[@cdlund2840]

The only bummer is this gun uses the same height front sight as the 22 and 22 mag and nobody makes a tritium or fiber optic aftermarket front sight in that height. All you can get is a florescent glo paint dot from big dot sights.

[@bigghoss762]

Neat but you should have had them put real sights on it like the S&W Ultimate Carry.

[@williamryan9195]

Not that important for the distance it was designed for.Not a target rig.Why people whine about sights with small revolvers? It's close and dirty.

[@bigghoss762]

@williamryan9195 Tell me you don't really know about defensive shooting without telling me you don't know any about defensive shooting.

[@chuckhaggard1584]

Mine shoots to the sights with both 85 and 100gr ammo, and groups well out to 25 yards. The sights are fine. The only thing i changed was painting the white oart with day glo orange

[@bigghoss762]

@@chuckhaggard1584 Why are you defending these pewny sights? I have 2 LCRs and the sights could be a lot better and there is zero reason not to make them that way. So why are you coming at me like I said something about one of your family members?

[@chuckhaggard1584]

@@bigghoss762 nobody is "coming at you". Why are you getting emotional over handgun sights? The LCR sights work fine. I use them regularly on qualification shoots where I can keep all 50 rounds on our Q course inside the chest circle of an IALEFI Q target, shooting from 3 to 25 yards. In walk back drills I can keep hits on the FBI Q target well past 25 yards. The sights on the S&W UC revolvers don't suit my eyes, nor do they draw as clean from a pocket or ankle rig as the stock LCR or 642 type sights.

[@eronavbj]

I have looked for 32 magnums for more than two years here in the People’s Republic of New Jersey, and even the large box stores don’t have the ammo. Online you’re lucky to find it for $1 per round. Add to that how difficult Jersey makes it for law-abiding citizens to purchase a handgun, and it means that I’m just spinning my wheels.

[@RobertKinne-lh8wn]

It must cost a lot because no one has mentioned msrp. Good for you keep it an your stupid games

[@cemetarygates2800]

Depends on "what's a lot" to the individual.

[@j54allen]

$739

[@somethingsmith3242]

I bought one of the S&W 442 UC done by Lipsey's, big mistake and I'll never buy anything these folks touch again. Had nothing but problems with that revolver and I had to get rid of it at a serious loss. I bought my Ruger LCRX .38spl and never looked back. If anyone is thinking about anything Lipseys, I'd check their reviews big time, I sure wish I would have.

[@jasonatlipseys]

You do realize we don’t build these.

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

Don't see why you can't do the 327 in that frame material and do a higher pressure material in the Cylinder??

[@jasonatlipseys]

The aluminum frame can’t handle the pressures the 327 Fed Mag generate. You would get frame stretching fairly quickly.

[@Privat3Kag3]

Its not just that the frame material will fail, its the massive increase in recoil compared to .32 H&R

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

Guys there are 357s with aluminum frames but have high end material in the Cylinder that makes up any difference.

[@jasonatlipseys]

Which models are you referring to?

[@KClouisville]

@@jasonatlipseys Probably the S&W 340PD....scandium frame but with a titanium cylinder....which probably does toughen up the revolver overall...but I can't imagine those are too fun to shoot.

[@scotts98rt70]

739 msrp.????? No way

[@jasonatlipseys]

It’s the same price as a standard LCR in 38 Special. Can’t get any cheaper for a LCR.

[@FMDad-dm5qo]

They’ll likely be 600 street price, same as the .38 LCR.

[@RoadTraveler]

Bump

[@Stew-rl9qk]

3oz savings and downgraded cartridge over having 327? Lipsey sure has a weird approach.

[@Paelorian]

Few people want to shoot .327 out of a gun this light and small. .32 H&R is plenty for a gun this small. Shorter cylinder, lighter weight. Actually, that means recoil will be a little more than .32 in a .327. .32 H&R in a lightweight revolver makes sense unless you're the kind of recoil-lover who likes to shoot scandium .357 Magnums. Heck, I'd be interested in an ultralight .32 Long.

[@Stew-rl9qk]

@ I reload so I would rather have the higher ceiling so that I can walk my loads up to whatever my sweet spot would be.

[@SouthernShodan]

@@Paelorian I have the Ruger LCR in 327 Fed. Mag. and a S&W Model 360 PD (Scandi frame, Ti cyl). While I don't say shooting 327's in the LCR is pleasant, it is so much nicer than that 360. The 327 feels more like someone smacking the front of your barrel with a shovel at about 50% power while it is still in your hand but 357's out of the Model 360 are just painful, esp. with the factory boot grips. The LCR will put a smile on your face by you thinking, "Hey, this isn't so bad. Don't want to shoot 100 rds at a time or anything, but not terrible". The 360 PD does not put a smile on your face and all you are thinking the whole time is, "This is stupid. Why am I doing this?" LOL

[@Paelorian]

@@SouthernShodan Thanks for sharing, that's a very useful comparison. I've also heard other say the .327 recoil can be tolerable, while most dismiss firing .357 in an 11 or 12oz revolver as a painful and impractical novelty. The extra couple of ounces of the LCR and bigger, more comfortable grips over the 360 PD also make a difference. I think I'll remember your description of the .327 smacking the barrel with a shovel at half-strength. That does make me curious if it's something I could master. I do tend to prefer not to have recoil right at the limit of what I'm comfortable with and can control. It's easier to shoot better and shoot more if it's not a heavy-recoiling gun, which is important to me in a carry gun. I usually go for the least powerful round that does enough damage, rather than the most poweful I can handle. It's easier to recognize the difference in recoil than in increased wounding power. For hunting larger game or dangerous game defense, a more powerful round makes more sense. Especially if adding a few inches to the barrel to take full advantage of .327. Although with a bigger gun I'd consider 9mm because it's so much cheaper to shoot. For a self-defense gun at least, as I appreciate how versatile .357 is for hunters and handloaders.

[@SouthernShodan]

@@Paelorian It honestly is not painful. I'd say 'jarring' is a better description, which again, isn't bad for getting 20% increase in capacity over 38 spl + much better ballistics. You won't mind shooting the 327's out of it. You will probably even look forward to it some. It does a nice job of reminding you that you are shooting something stout. You just aren't going to be going through tons of rounds per range visit. Luckily, the revolver has plenty of 'fun at the range' options like 32 longs and 32 H&R mags.

[@jimparker7778]

I much prefer my S&W model 36. The cylinder only holds five shots, but it's 38 special instead of the 32 in this Ruger. For those who don't want the expense of a Smith you can settle for a Rossi and save a few bucks. Either way, these compact wheel guns are the way to go.

[@barefootbob1269]

Really like it but for the price you should have put on a good sight! I guess it's nice you can change it but should not have to for the money.

[@jasonatlipseys]

It’s the same price as the regular LCR 38 Special.

[@barefootbob1269]

@@jasonatlipseys Nope payed $549 for my LCR those are between $750 and $800 I admit love the finish and you will probably still get my money but for like the $50 dollar you could have put the xs on it and even built it into the price if you had to. Just think it would be more marketable with a night sight just me though. I think my local shop is a dealer for you so will see if they can get one.

[@jasonatlipseys]

@@barefootbob1269the prices on our website are MSRP. We do not sell them for MSRP. You have to have a dealer login to see wholesale pricing. These 32’s have the same MSRP as the standard 38 Special LCR. Street pricing for the 32’s should be the same as the standard 38’s.

[@MarkWilliams-lx9vy]

If it's not any better than the Ruger LCR 9mm, You better save your money.

[@anthonyguidas2012]

Why do we need this? The 327 magnum can already shoot 32 H&R magnum. I do like the color though. The ammunition is sometimes hard to find and expensive compared to 38 special.

[@jasonatlipseys]

It’s over 3oz lighter than the steel frame 327 Fed model. It’s also less expensive due to the aluminum frame.

[@BrokenBarBox]

Who said YOU need this? No one is making you buy one. Settle down tiger. You ain’t that important

[@radiohobbyist13]

Aluminum frame with super expensive ammo, no thanks. 👎

[@jrbailey3208]

Once again, Lipsey's puts out a piece of crap Sales Pitch; doesn't bother to provide the Specs on Trigger Pull Poundage, or what the Ramp of the Front Sight looks like, and then insults our intelligence by telling us that 3 oz. difference between the R. LCR chambered in .327 Fed. Mag, which provides another cartridge choice, is a better choice in choosing the .32 H&R, which the LCR in .327 Fed. Mag can also use!!! Will NO one at Lipsey's pull their heads OUT of their asses, even for a moment, and STOP with the propaganda of 'what can we pawn off on them now' mindset, and get down to brass tacks in providing Real World USEFUL tools to save the lives of our families, our lives, and the lives of innocents, if we are called upon? I am SO tired of the constant HYPE companies keep putting out, while IGNORING the BASICS! Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY

[@johnbanning8156]

They should have made this gun eight rounds. That would have been perfect.

[@BrokenBarBox]

They could have, except this pesky thing called math got in the way…

[@statictech7]

Its cool. But new revolvers just cost way too much. Ill get it used in a year or two.