Liquid liner, Its worse than I thought!!

[@SHAUNCATCHPOLE-k7z]

I would remove the liquid rubber and repair the fibreglass as this should be your cheapest solution and give the best result all round. When you filled the pond initially the water level dropped around 200mm so this is where you should be looking for the issue as the level did not drop any further. Sand the surface well and apply further resin and topcoat to patch any issues.

[@davidthompson6455]

For what could have been an easy repair from the start, it's an absolute mess. Trying to get to different products to work together never works 😢

[@keepingitkoi]

Your both right although the water was still dropping at that height but unfortunately I'm no good with fiberglass and these were the options available to me

[@JillofAllTrades2]

⁠Do you have any theories why MS300 didn’t bond in certain spots? I’m about to effect a fix for a leak in my EPDM plunge pond that’s 2 m wide x 2 m deep so a LOT of pressure on the seams/joins. I was hoping MS300 would do the trick bc several other efforts have failed. I’m sulking too. Feeling defeated but not giving up. Not just yet.

[@keepingitkoi]

The normal ms300 bonded fantastically and I couldn't get it off if I tried it was the liquid liner version that didn't bond and it was the whole thing it just peeled off but the proper ms300 stuck like sxxx 🤣

[@jaylucky7s]

All u needed to do it re topcoat the fibreglass. A good layer over the faulty topcoat or fibreglass patch over dodgy parts and re topcoat. The topcoat will seal up any holes in the fibreglass if done properly

[@keepingitkoi]

Unfortunately after my first attempt at fiberglassing I decided it's not for me lol 🙃

[@jaylucky7s]

Fair enough id help u out if u was in devon. I had to topcoat mine twice as there wasn't enough wax in the topcoat and it wouldn't go off , all good now tho and alot thicker haha.

[@JillofAllTrades2]

@@jaylucky7sFam & I holidayed in south Devon. It was lovely!

[@vigilanteRider]

remove the liquid liner and sand the fiberglass then get some epoxy pond paint that should fix the problem just make sore you do all the prep work just make sore you sand all the walls and floor properly.

[@keepingitkoi]

Thanks bud think I'm just gunna go for a boxweld liner and be done with it 👍

[@dazpowell8371]

If it wasn't for bad luck u have no luck at all mate

[@keepingitkoi]

You said that right mate 😕🤣

[@JillofAllTrades2]

😂😂😂

[@jpwatergardens2290]

Chin up m8 some thing just go rong some times they aways around it all have beer have a think

[@keepingitkoi]

Thanks bud 👍

[@jpwatergardens2290]

@@keepingitkoi if what box weld liner ark m8 mite have code for one trun up with 3 or 4 days last one I order

[@sweetkoiyo]

Jamie, I'm so gutted for you. I sure hope you get it sorted out. I wish we all had the ability to know when we are beating a dead horse, and should move on to another solution to our problems, or are we just one step away from a win. I hope your next plan of attack, proves to be successful, whatever that may be. Best of luck to you my friend ❤

[@keepingitkoi]

Thank you so much for the kind words 🙏 means alot and yes so far so good we're holding water again 🤞🤞🤞

[@sweetkoiyo]

@@keepingitkoi oh my gosh, that's awesome Jamie!!! I'm praying real hard that this time it will work. Looking forward to the update. ❤️🤗

[@koikanalen]

Wow, thats bad 😮😮 what a mess. Hope you get it sorted. Personally i would sand down the topcoat down with 40grid and give it a new topcoat 🙏💪

[@keepingitkoi]

Thanks bud but after my last attempt at fiberglassing I think I will just drop a boxweld in 👍

[@Sharpeyskoi]

i dont know what to say mate to help. maybe box weld like you said will be best option

[@keepingitkoi]

Yes but that's the plan now I'm sick of it lol

[@JillofAllTrades2]

@@keepingitkoi😢 I’m at that point with finding a solution for my pond. ☹️I wish I hadn’t let it get to me, but I did. Time to read stories of the 1,000 times someone failed and then on the 1,001 try they succeeded! 🎉

[@johnholwell9514]

Are the areas where the silicone hasn't bonded, places where you'd previously tried to fix with silicone? I know from past experiences fixing a aquarium, silicone doesn't bond well with older silicone under it.

[@keepingitkoi]

No I thought that initially but no where I'd previously put ms300 on it that's where it has stuck the best 🤔🤣

[@JillofAllTrades2]

@@keepingitkoiDo you have any idea why it didn’t bond in certain spots? I’m about to effect a fix for a leak in my EPDM plunge pond that’s 2 m wide x 2 m deep so a LOT of pressure on the seams/joins. I was hoping MS300 would do the trick bc several other efforts have failed. I’m sulking too. Feeling defeated but not giving up. Not just yet.

[@KeefesKoiHaven]

Jamie, I know you will figure out a solution for this pond! It’s such a perfect grow-on pond, am hoping the box weld liner fixes all the issues!! Praying it all works out for you 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🤗😊

[@keepingitkoi]

Thank you yeh Fingers crossed! Its looking good so far 🤞🤞🤞

[@asterixborden-koi6881]

Oh dear sorry for the mess you are in hope you get it sorted out soon 😮 think this is what happened to Jack The Balding Reffer on his farm 🤷‍♂️

[@keepingitkoi]

Yes mate I believe it was I've spoken to others who's had similar experiences as well so boxweld it is 🤣

[@scottcannings2746]

Hi Jamie, but personally I would of sanded the fuck out of the fibreglass, to a certain extent, bought more resin, slapped that on and then soaked it with top coat, my grow on was fibreglassed by my self, I'm a good DIY er, and I am up and running no issues with it, basically I put plenty of resin and a good top coat on, and I done it on the hottest day of the year last year due to my holidays, you can do this, I have faith, ❤, fuck the ms of personally its great stuff I have bought this product, but I would of not bothered smothering the pond in it, and done what I have mentioned above, chin up buddy u will overcome.

[@keepingitkoi]

Yeh ideally that would have been the best option but I don't know if you saw the attempt at fiberglassing I did I failed miserably 🤣 so a boxweld it is 👍😊

[@davidvyse6305]

You one of the best and getting it right it’s the product that not fit for purpose I don’t see a video of that product working so why have to assume you’ve made a mistake i’m sure you’ll work it out Good luck all the best Dave

[@keepingitkoi]

Yeh after speaking with others that have used it the majority have reported it failing so a boxweld liner it is 👍

[@JillofAllTrades2]

@@keepingitkoiUnder what conditions/on which substrates has MS300 failed? I won’t even bother if it won’t work with my substrate and variables. Thanks!

[@sherwoodforesttarheel3173]

Box weld liner

[@keepingitkoi]

Yep definitely 👌

[@chazkoi]

Oh no… 😢 chin up mate, you’ll get it sorted in the end 💪🏻💪🏻

[@keepingitkoi]

Oh yes boxweld time 👍

[@chazkoi]

@@keepingitkoithat should sort it!

[@Crazyforkoiandgoldfish]

Very sad mate to see you with this problem If is doesn’t work this time the liquid liner I think more easy for you to put a liner is jest a subjection I hope 🤞 you get on top of this problem 😎👌🎏🎏

[@keepingitkoi]

Thanks bud yes time for a boxweld 👍

[@SteveSmith-km2mw]

plasterboard tape will give a rough surface to bond with

[@keepingitkoi]

Thanks bud the whole liner peeled away so I'm just gunna boxweld it 👍

[@JillofAllTrades2]

@@keepingitkoioh no. Sorry to hear that the entire liner peeled away.

[@danielmerrell8926]

Just put the box liner in and be done with the problems I think is best

[@keepingitkoi]

Yep I agree 👍

[@Fishfingerskoi]

If I was you I would get a box weld liner or sand it all off and get it fibreglass the cheapest option is a box weld liner you would only have to cut around the window and the bottom dream and any Returns and then the seal it with MS 300 but not the liquid liner

[@keepingitkoi]

Yeh that's the plan now 👍

[@JillofAllTrades2]

Isn’t MS300 liquid liner?

[@JillofAllTrades2]

Isn’t MS300 liquid liner?

[@JillofAllTrades2]

@@keepingitkoiFYT for censoring/deleting comments. Foff

[@JillofAllTrades2]

For as long as YT insists on censorship I will continue to repeat/copy & paste.