Lisa the Pointless SOTWS - Old Friend (Jeremy Denkins version)

This plays when you're fighting Jeremy Denkins in Lisa the Pointless SOTWS.
I didn't make this song, all credits go to Taitoki.

[@LolaTheGardevoir]

I honestly love how the battle starts off completely silent as he’s loading his gun in, but once he’s done, THEN the music comes in. It makes him so much more threatening.

[@CheeseYourself]

"you're going to the *+Rupture* realm, Jimbo"

[@michaellatner975]

He sent me there, I came back, he then sent my friend to the rupture realm, he didnt come back

[@hughneutron8620]

That's my line.

[@BlastingBloo]

This character was legitimately terrifying as an antagonistic force. Maybe because, in Pointless, you basically never fight characters with actual firearms. Never mind that the guy had a double barrel shotgun, where as even in the original, Painful, enemies only ever had pistols or machine guns.

[@angrycoffeekid]

Like fucking hell, one shell could take you out in real life, I don't wanna fight this shit

[@michaellatner975]

In my opinion what's even worse is that you can't disarm him, the moment you knock it out of his hands he gets a free turn to pick it up iNSTANTLY, usually it takes a few turns, but no, instead of it taking a turn he gets a free turn, the fuck man

[@camedialdamage8180]

Not to mention that “dangerous” in this games holds alot more weight than “fatal” in painful

[@MilanesaConPure]

I'm so satisfied with this fight, i always wanted to face a mofo with a shotgun in Lisa, but never got the chance until now And yeah, that shit makes your bones go *adiós*

[@DerangedPacman]

@@MilanesaConPure *+RUPTURE*

[@jackiej6233]

I would've much preferred it if he had just cracked from PTSD or something. It's not like it doesn't happen to poor vets all the time, and post-flash Olathe probably does feel a lot like being back in a warzone.

[@heyimlate5656]

I agree. Feel like him being apart of the game just isn't as well written. Feel like if his character was a super nice veteran who loved helping the kids who got traumatized and turned into a lunatic by the flash would've been much better.

[@burgerman72.]

@@heyimlate5656 he loved the kids

[@JoeyTheDay]

@@burgerman72. he loved kids

[@enemyshadowdemon]

@@JoeyTheDay burnt to a crisp

[@Terlinilia]

All the Jerseyheads going outside and murdering people would have set him off I can see Jeremy dominating the franchise with a gun as powerful as his

[@headofsecurity1478]

POV: you're stuck in fear of an old massive man with a semi-working and loaded gun so you still your turn as his theme plays

[@gayassfurry]

Jeremy Denkins blasts your body to bits! -9,999 +Rupture

[@Jose-jj3qe]

You forgot "Jeremy Denkins will kill"

[@alexeyshcherbakov5371]

Good thing we got some bile cups

[@chadboygonzalez694]

1 hp revives:@@alexeyshcherbakov5371

[@birdi2772]

"We do a little bit of rupturing"

[@SomeCleanTrash]

The most anxiety inducing battle ... That if his gun doesn't jam

[@user-eh2vi6lk7n]

Mine didn't jam...

[@Bellbird1235]

Luckily he always jammed for me

[@poliswag6666]

good thing that i wasnt the only one here in the comment section that was disappointed by Jeremy being with the Infinite Franchise. He could have be considered the Pointless version of "Satan" from the original Lisa the Painful game

[@cloudthelemon756]

That title went to Mr.Cyborg man

[@Jose-jj3qe]

@@cloudthelemon756 sadly

[@Beltboy]

This man is terrifying to me.

[@jazzierdude9654]

The animation of when he aims and just stares at you is intimidating, it just says " I'll fucking blast your innards "

[@Komnen0s]

I wasn't particularly keen on the second half of this fight. It's disappointing that he just turns out to be another franchiser rather than a disturbed lunatic who has nothing to do with the madness going on below. It'd be a lot creepier if he was somehow above the franchise's influence but was still this monster of a man regardless. I also didn't like that the game sets him up as being uniquely dangerous because of his shotgun only for him to discard and becomes another "giant franchiser who's cut" type of enemy. Him being the one opponent in the game who's strapped made him more intimidating, plus by this point in the mod you'll have already faced several other enemies that already did the "tall muscly guy who beats the shit out of you" shtick.

[@CoalEater_Elli]

Yeah, lost potential. He is creepy, but it would be cooler of he actually was just a man, nota franchiser, or at least not yet. I imagined his second phase as him throwing the shotgun at Joel, knocking him out instantly, and just burning himself on fire, like most of the franchisers who use fire as a weapon against you with words "I guess this can work". He becomes more agile and powerful, and after you defeat him he would say "Darn, even i can't learn how to use this technique" and dies.

[@c4r439]

Yep. I wish this dude was just really some maniac with a gun. The franchise is neat but imo this fight ended up with an interesting idea "gone" to give place to your average franchise madness.

[@jonnysilia5740]

one of the few times when being corrupted by the franchise feels like a cheesy cop-out

[@m1seryf0nt40]

I thought I was the only one who thought the 2nd phase was pretty unnecessary

[@Jose-jj3qe]

It will we more cool if he just stop the battle and says:"I will see you soon",and just get in the shed,if you try to open the shed,you get a shoot of the shotgun and instantly game over

[@porksmork8354]

Really appreciate how Jeremy's design is based off of Joel. He's the only other guy in Pointless who has a gun, looks to be Spanish, wears a trench coat and has a matching big hat.

[@PieBathBob]

i think that's just a coincidence lol

[@cogwithnoambition2990]

@@PieBathBob Pretty big coincidence cause that's a very specific clothing set.

[@PieBathBob]

@@cogwithnoambition2990 it really isn't though

[@cogwithnoambition2990]

@@PieBathBob In a setting like pointless it kinda is though

[@zanethezaniest274]

@@PieBathBob Doesn’t help the fact that he drops 1 silver bullet upon defeat

[@joenutz3872]

Kinda wish he wasn't just a jersey head. Like the gun was cool and scary to fight. He could just been a "normal" lunatic no strings attached.

[@joenutz3872]

@@fp790 Guess that's true. But as Alex puts it "Am kinda tired of the number 88"

[@joenutz3872]

@@fp790 Well that depends on which ending you get . Also I was just quoting him. Also also I'm not trying to argue with you :/

[@arriasinsanite4886]

I agree with you, in the cabin scene he gave me the impression to be exterior to the franchise, like a crazy force of the nature that came for the mountain. it could have been more interesting to me if he just became crazy for an unknow reason when he was hiking in the wild. with another team than pure carnage the franchise just make him looks another freak in my opinion. don't get me wrong I love the franchise too, but I just think it doesn't fit well his character as is it for other bosses

[@joenutz3872]

@@arriasinsanite4886 It kinda just made TOO much sense. Also I don't think a member of the franchise would use a gun.

[@arriasinsanite4886]

@@joenutz3872 I don't think Daniel Grind have anything against firearms only the kill count

[@_piranha]

I overall really like this fight, one of my favorites from this mod. Sure, it's RNG-heavy, and can balance from "gives you 2 ruptures and you might as well reload" to "does nothing the whole 1st phase". But i think it really works at just showing how intimidating Jeremy is, with just the shotgun. The whole first part of the fight is basically you either trying to desperately disarm him, only for him to pick it back up, or praying to whatever you believe in that it jams or that he just doesn't try to fire it. And that's perfect for what the situation actually is for the characters, they're fighting an old war veteran that doesn't have a very stable mind anymore, could kill any of them in one shot, and is completely unpredictable due to his old age and very probable PTSD. And yeah, i also wished the second phase wasn't there, or at least that he didn't wear a jersey. Sure, it makes the fight harder and makes it so it doesn't rely COMPLETELY on RNG, but it would have been better if Jeremy wasn't a franchiser, but just a crazy and old war veteran, that wanted nothing to do with anyone, and will blast anyone who steps on his property, franchiser or not. Kinda like Satan in Painful (A comparison that's already been made by someone else), just a guy that wants/should be left alone, disconnected from the main plot, while being one of the most powerful and dangerous opponents in the game.

[@minkhe]

The first enemy to make me feel genuine fear

[@Ani-yi1hs]

I replayed SOWS recently and assumed this guy’s gun always broke when he fired it, hoo boy the look on my face when he blasted Alex

[@TripleAy]

This man and the Aussie from Vegaful in a team, think about it

[@ghostmason672]

VEGAFUL FANS RISE

[@steampunker3843]

We do a little rupturing.

[@freyathedragon899]

When I hear this I just imagine someone you know stepping out of the shadows, hands covered in blood. But what are THEY doing here? It doesn't make sense spatially. They look at you, and slowly begin approaching. There's something wrong with the way they move, the way they sway, or lack thereof. There's unyielding killing intent in their posture. There's a light gone from their eyes. Soulless.

[@TrustJesusOurLordAndSaviour]

"Alex prays to Jesus for Jeremy Dankins gun to jam!"

[@mollusk1207]

This song fits the character perfectly. It sounds menacing, and then the trumpets come in, giving it a somber, melancholy tone. Really gives a good idea of Jeremy's descent into insanity and his tragic character.

[@Vox_Rhododendron]

Just how old is this dude? One NPC mentions he fought in Normandy and his line before his phase change is “I’ll show you how we did this back in ‘44!” Man’s probably a centenarian or at least close to one, but given that time is canonically screwy post-flash it’s no wonder that he can still fight like a madman.

[@luccaf2834]

supposing he fought in the war at his eighteen, he now would be 73 years old

[@Vox_Rhododendron]

If we’re assuming Pointless takes place at the same time as Painful (2014-2015ish) and the Flash occurred in 2000, and he was 18 in 1944, that makes him around 88 years old....hmmmm....

[@luccaf2834]

@@Vox_Rhododendron not really cuz is supposed the time just got fuck up and people cant get older or some shit like that

[@Nat-qr5nr]

@@Vox_Rhododendron in pointless the flash happend in the year 2000

[@Vox_Rhododendron]

@@Nat-qr5nr Yeah that’s what I said.

[@leetagent]

protip: pray to jesus that his gun will jam

[@tarc3957]

We're all just tools of war in the end. Only difference is who's pulling the strings.

[@chancesassy7963]

Way cooler than the original version imo.

[@user-mn1qb1lq7c]

The songs name fits him so perfect because he used to be a friendly camp counselor but then he turned crazy with ptsd and the franchise the song really shows that he used to be an old friend but he is no longer one anymore

[@enemyshadowdemon]

Using this weapon in Bloody Battle is a power trip, but of course you are gonna trip fighting him in the game. And he is ready to kill.

[@chunkeemonkee-fl8yf]

jeremy's cannon and flamethrower my beloved

[@tunderbuilder114]

I HATE BLOODY BATTLE AAAHHHH

[@enemyshadowdemon]

@@tunderbuilder114 Complaining about it seems pretty pointless in retrospect.

[@tunderbuilder114]

@@enemyshadowdemonget back to me when you own frost glove noob (the worst item)

[@enemyshadowdemon]

@@tunderbuilder114 nah

[@williamhbell9445]

Seeing the comments talking about how he can give you rupture and that his gun can shoot gives me a bit of fear since his gun always jammed whenever I fought him and I thought the gun didn’t work anymore for the fight and it was for spooks and stuff.

[@C4LLM3AN1MAL]

The first time I fought him he never shot his gun and I thought it didn't work and I killed him, I didn't save and died to the infinity guys in the cave that leads to the playground, then proceeded to get ruptured for a hour straight before beating him again

[@CalmMagma]

I thought i was about to get my shit pushed in until his gun jammed and he just threw it away as soon as he tried to shoot. I legit thought the gun was only for intimidation after the fight before seeing the comment section. I did get my shit pushed in on the second phase, but at that point he was too low.

[@danthezan6455]

Lyrics Doie doie dodoie doie doie dodoie doie doie dede doie doiedoie

[@BiggestCheeser]

Look out Grandpa has a gun

[@firekingextreme7207]

he shoots both shotgun shells at one target, most probably 12guage but can be 10 which is just horrifying.

[@djangogames3720]

8 guage would perma kill

[@Random_person_404]

@@djangogames3720It seems to be a double barrel those things are damn powerful how tf did Alex joel salt crab (and geen too I guess) even survive those bullets

[@djangogames3720]

@@Random_person_404 Jeremys shotgun description says its in "Rugged condition" and lisa characters are pretty much superhumans

[@Steampumpkin]

guys this is what happens when you eat shotgun potion ar 3 am

[@alexis_electronic]

Everyone dislikes that he's a jerseyhead, but it makes sense to me. We can see, from the other people at sweet breeze, that the bloodshed is everywhere, affecting everything and everyone. With a man so isolated, made for killing as Jeremy, where else would he have to turn?

[@ren_8181]

Nowhere to go but Infinity.

[@SulAdica]

@@ren_8181 You can't make people run away from Infinity.

[@creamsalmon]

Plus him being infinite doesn’t have to completely override the PTSD angle, it can add to the reasons why he slowly joined

[@hhgkktederr9o]

this is cool until you realize that it's starting to become a somewhat repetitive clichè that the creators of this game maybe implemented for the sake of laziness in adding any actually entertaining plot or because "it's the point of the game / franchise"

[@hhgkktederr9o]

like hugo's the only actual psychopath you fight that isn't another jersey head and that makes him an ACTUALLY original character deriving off of his own form of insanity rather than an overused design that literally every other character has

[@kris_mcstabberson]

god this fight was so damn cool

[@chadboygonzalez694]

YES

[@xNotAnAlienx]

Fought him, every time he tried to ripture me, his gun was always jammed, but after he raged, he downed joel with a 1,000 crit (Joel had 400 hp)

[@andrei2362]

First time I fought him, his gun jammed every time. Every other time I try to fight this bastard, his gun now actually shoots me every damn time.

[@michaellatner975]

When i first fought this punk, he shot me 3 times in a row, since he had dangerous i assumed i had to dodge, NOPE FUCKER JUST AIMS BETTER, i had to fight him again since he just shot me every time and i was panicking about him reloading trying to slap the gun out of his hand just for him to pick it immediately back up on his turn and do another attack.

[@Jose-jj3qe]

@@michaellatner975 if him can shoot flying crows so easily without miss,what do you think he will do to a old trash man and a cowboy cosplayer that are trying to roll?

[@michaellatner975]

@@Jose-jj3qe the crows could also have been sitting there like 90% of them in the game

[@Jose-jj3qe]

@@michaellatner975 well,what do you say about the deers?

[@bloodyidit4506]

This guy is technically just like a boss fight with Joel but if he had bullets.

[@seewagg9102]

Plus it's cannon that Joel's gun is an instakill

[@Terlinilia]

@@seewagg9102 duh, it's a gun.

[@scriggle3564]

​@Terlinilia u realize most enemies with guns will unload their bullets on someone and they will get hurt but not die right? Joel's gun can take out a fucking killer whale with one shot

[@Terlinilia]

@@scriggle3564 Not in Pointless. The reason why Joel is so intimidating is because he has a gun and nobody else does. He'd be nothing if everyone else was armed

[@bloodyidit4506]

@@Terlinilia It's a modified gun that can only fit one massive caliber bullet, implied to be from an elephant gun given it can mulch an orca, something like a 557 Nitro Express.

[@LolaTheGardevoir]

The song’s name makes him so much more intimidating

[@mattgroening8872]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

[@wontonschannel]

For anyone looking, the file name is "Taitoki - LISA's Lost Tracks - 77 MISERY- Old Friend"

[@DerangedPacman]

whenever it says "jAy" i just imagine jeremy with the drip and the text on it would say *RUPTURE*

[@32zzo]

the part where the song sorta calms itself from the grunts it feels like the gun jammed, but then he aims it again and the grunts begin again

[@cloudthelemon756]

Uncertain + Stun + Blind always worked for me.

[@vidyabatter]

I just wanna say, this is one of my favorite fights in the game.

[@ThomasWC-do2yp]

0:48 sounds like a freeze frame of an intense basketball game while someone is dunking the ball

[@digitaltoaster4956]

the trumpets are my favorite parts

[@mateww6975]

Same

[@exmurder1111]

@@mateww6975 Same

[@magikman481]

This guy is easy to cheese with a full thrust followed by a goat kick and iron hoof

[@thorium1629]

Hoo boy i sure hope that gun does not work. It sure would be unexpected if he actually shot me with it.

[@exmurder1111]

Joel if he had THE bullets:

[@darthvato24]

"What in tarntation? Me gun don't work for nothin'! Let's do this texas style"

[@k2ggers961]

*Jeremy Denkins is primed and loaded*

[@themonster8887]

this encounter is weird, I got it after I killed Floyd and went to the blood town right after im also pretty sure he shot me? Since like my screen went red and I lost 500 hp when I first went to the blood area but yeah I fought him without any cutscene he just showed up after I climbed the rope and went into his cabin

[@saint-hourai6439]

that happened to me once, the guy that gets his head blown was there dead and when i entered the cabin it played the cutscene but with alex and joel already there

[@SergioVDF360]

WTF mi abuelito

[@iloveradicalislam]

Did we all fight the same fight? For me every time he tried to shoot he jammed his gun.

[@mateww6975]

You're a lucky guy then

[@iloveradicalislam]

@@mateww6975 I guess so

[@Beltboy]

He ruptured two of my guys.

[@iloveradicalislam]

@@Beltboy That’s a tremendous L, sorry my guy

[@DarkTree]

he only got to jam his gun once before getting stunned into his second phase for me, i thought he was overhyped by surrounding characters but Apparently he can apply trauma debuffs so i'm glad i did not need to reload a save from before i killed him, now

[@jellyqueen2545]

Love this theme lot! there really need to be more music from this mod up loaded on here

[@somebody-sz3lx]

this double barrel deals 80 damage and applies rupture, however you gotta reload it and then aim it at someone first. reloading has a somewhat long cooldown, but its good to know if you reloaded it or not. you lose 2 speed and you cant jump while holding it. also 0.5 draw time. when you are downed, instead of being ragdolled for 5 seconds, you enrage, and your shirt is replaced with an Infinity Jersey. for the upsides and downsides of being enraged check the War Season reimagined video. (also forgot to mention that you can execute with this thing by turning your target into a red mist (oh and yeah i also forgot to mention that this thing has not a lot of range because people can just run away when you aim at them, and that it also used to be an instadown dealing around 10K DAMAGE LIKE HOLY SHIT))

[@keemstarkreamstar7069]

Thank you autistic child, this information will be very helpful.

[@thatonedude05]

*_"Joel aims at something that isn't there!"_*

[@lolrus5555]

*_...Trespassers._*

[@Mr.Rendo1]

OH where is he i know he is in the infinity land somewhere

[@ramonnavarro8020]

Ring the bell on the westmost shack, then go east, trigger the "quick, hide from the big baby jerseyhead" event, go back west and you´ll see a new rope leadeng up to his house.

[@user-eh2vi6lk7n]

When he aims. Is your cue to start praying.

[@bombi9555]

Bro he totally looks like joels Old Friend

[@theequalizer694]

OH GOD HE GOT HIS MOJO BACK

[@hhgkktederr9o]

Most common day in America:

[@Green_Animator]

In Brazil 💀

[@walrusplaysgames1216]

all my homies hate phase 2

[@sacripan4425]

Alex, Arnold Joel, Jeremy

[@digitaltoaster4956]

Sorry to bring this up again. But so most or at least half of i us agree Jeremy's twist isn't that great. Even with the symbolism (Is that the right word) or sad truth thing?

[@Pudding404]

While I'm not totally against Jeremy's twist, being the symbolism that the "infinity" can spread anywhere and everywhere being a universal concept despite any rhyme or reason. But if they didn't, we would've come to the conclusion that "infinity" is more of a continuous free choice than the individual jerseyhead or the audience thought. Like following a crowd out of your own primal desires.

[@dantheguy6912]

awesome boss but i'm torn between liking and disliking the jerseyhead part of his character, makes sense for him to be one since his ptsd wouldn't really leave him with many other paths for him to go down, but also i feel like a second phase not involving another jerseyhead would've been cool. fun fight tho for sure :D

[@xNotAnAlienx]

Where do you find him?

[@mateww6975]

Haven't fully played through SOTWS yet, someone more knowledgable will probably speak out on the matter

[@Mr.Rendo1]

He is somewhere in downtown olathe

[@Mr.Rendo1]

I just found him you know where the bell is at when u first enter the area go up and you'll see some rope

[@cogwithnoambition2990]

@@Mr.Rendo1 To be more specific ring the campground bell, watch the cutscene where he blasts a franchiser in half and walk back to the blood worship camp and climb the newly downed rope, beware the aftermath.

[@talzubareff7137]

1.75x speed is hilarious

[@mateww6975]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zni3kGeFqLlrZtU&ab_channel=Tamarindo This one is even faster and it was used unironically lol. Although i have to admit it has it's charm

[@talzubareff7137]

@@mateww6975 LOL

[@LolaTheGardevoir]

Pretty sure that’s around the song’s original speed

[@noskers606]

Epic how 2 prank the first one asleep

[@exmurder1111]

He was the one that pretended to fall asleep first just to then pull out a gun the moment he knows the others are pulling a prank on him.

[@somepizzatowerfan]

day

[@sarpkaya1013]

Who is here from bloody battle roblox

[@mattgroening8872]

It’s what got me into pizza tower but not this bbg

[@heyimlate5656]

It stinks because this fight seemed so hard at first, and it's super easy, especially because the second phase is horrible and ruins the fight

[@deduderi5795]

Haha A D S go brrr

[@JToThE4]

+ Rupture

[@Beltboy]

my brother in Christ the Bloody Battles traumas came from THIS GAME, Rupture included

[@JToThE4]

@@Beltboy didnt know that lol (I CANT EDIT THE COMMENT TIS GONNA REMOVE THE HEART)

[@JToThE4]

@@Beltboy o well i edited it

[@JToThE4]

@@Beltboy golden ticket is hell to get i keep getting trial 5 but every single time i enter the code i mess up something

[@ashtoncharles7035]

Why is everyone talking about him being a vet wasn't he like a camp counselor or something?

[@mollusk1207]

He was both.

[@ashtoncharles7035]

@@mollusk1207 ohhh okay

[@roachdoggjr.6839]

0:47 sounds like Smash Mouth, not gonna lie

[@luccaf2834]

This fight was easy, I just combo spammed Alex using Full Thrust, then Geen Use Ankle Breaker and finally, Iron Hoof

[@complayer1224]

Anybody here from bloody battle?

[@kingra2541]

God this is honestly the most disappointing fight in this whole mod to me. And I think it's primarily due to the fact that his sprite is ugly as shit. I dunno if it's the way his legs look or if it's his big dumb gaping mouth but something about this sprite pisses me off. If you look in the "bonus content" folder you can see a proposed resprite for what they would do if they ever updated the game that looks infinitely better than what is currently here

[@ramonnavarro8020]

I think that´s an inherent problem that "Pointless style" has been carring ever since vanilla. Pointless always had this "Uncanny Valley" overuse that tended to be miss above hit, and there´s just so much appeal one can find in this "surreal human deformation" a lá Lovecraft, specially considering that whatever "symbolic motives" Pointless style may have with such design (assuming it´s good for an art style to be purposefully ugly to begin with), does simply not justify how morphless and senseless some sprites may look there, in Phone Crew and in this mod. I mean, yeah, in Painful there´s some crudeness in some NPC designs, but overall it was extravagant and dummy more than anything, but Pointless gets kinda too "grotesque" for it´s own good at some points, even for a post-apocalyptic scenario. If there´s one thing the case of the first design for Sonic live action movie taught us, is that there IS such thing as too "realistic".

[@themonster8887]

Its the mirrored face dude looks so dumb

[@notbolton3156]

@@ramonnavarro8020 honestly, the utterly disgusting designs are what pulled me in. I always wondered if these people looked like regular human beings before the flash, or if they all looked like this. This design I like a lot, the face, how off it looks, the fact it's symmetrical...

[@radiationdecay8123]

Care to show the sprite, just curious to see what that looks like?

[@themonster8887]

its the guy in the video