5 Ways to Spot Emotional Immaturity in Covert Narcissists

[@juanderuano8969]

Wow. The timing of me seeing this video couldnt be more perfect, I was with a narcissist for 4 years, and when we stopped seeing each other, i found the love of my life, and because i was trauma bonded, i ended up ruining things but i realized my mistake and did all i could to make sure i got her back.

[@laurawheeler-px6oz]

its difficult to let go of someone you love, i am in a similar situation, and i do not know what else do to have him back, i have been dying inside, people actually think i am happy, i am not

[@juanderuano8969]

I feel your pain , after trying out the no contact experiment that failed miserably, i had to find other means, i had to reach out to a spiritual adviser, it was brilliant idea which i never thought it was, but it worked wonders for me

[@laurawheeler-px6oz]

Amazing, how did you get a spiritual counselor, and how do i reach him/ her?

[@juanderuano8969]

Her name is Shelly renee white , and she is a great spiritual counselor who can bring back your ex.

[@laurawheeler-px6oz]

Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive

[@JohnSmith-wo7ns]

For those of us who miss the person, these videos are crucial and an excellent reminder of what we'd go back to.

[@histreasure3189]

Sad stuff

[@JohnSmith-wo7ns]

@@histreasure3189 very.

[@rachellafotanoa2783]

It might be you missed the love bombing stage, everything else was an illusion

[@samaeltf5583]

@@rachellafotanoa2783it’s the good memories hard letting go , specially bc of our son

[@ChrisPTY507]

I hear you. These videos helped me break up with my girlfriend, who showed BPD and narcissistic traits. Now, they serve as a reminder of why I should never go back to her, despite her insisting on getting back together after we’ve already gone through the same cycle multiple times, and it never worked out.

[@jmad627]

You perfectly described my mother. No matter what she’s always right…facts, reasoning and logic really piss her off, and her next actions and words are ones aimed to make me feel bad about myself.

[@juniperwool]

Yes, even if it's an obvious untruth. She would not back down.

[@brandonreccejitsninja6076]

A gem among the murky waters online. Thank you very much. 😢

[@danielepp3113]

Do You follow Sam Vaknin?

[@brandonreccejitsninja6076]

​@danielepp3113 indeed I do like his work too. Just a bit long and you have to be in the right zone to properly absorb it. I find her work much easier to digest. Also for the relationship side it's more geared for what I need to hear honestly. I have a pattern of PD partners and I'm on my 3rd. She was very covert and even with teacher her and both identified as victims of this kind of abuse she fooled me. So it's a difficult situation anytime we deal with a person who is dysfunctional. Peace and love to all, God grace and mercy upon us all.

[@smokingcrab2290]

Narcissists hate themselves. Which is why you're always the brunt of their hatred. Because you have told them "it's okay to hate me because I'll love you anyway" Those who understand unconditional love are always a narcissist prime target

[@josmclove4426]

Well said!🔥👌🏾

[@AA-iy4gm]

and those that want to see good in others and to "rescue" them...

[@JamesOMalley-hb4tf]

​@@AA-iy4gmouch that hurts! Ever seen a strong man try to rescue a woman that doesn't want to be rescued? I'm lucky I escaped with my life.

[@altruism8637]

well when its ones mother and if one is a child, they have no chiice but to love the mother... they guna run away and die homeless? Nope. Its really bad and cruel of nature.

[@TherealMotopsycho]

@@smokingcrab2290 ouchie 🤕 🖖🏾 these are hurtful facts. This assures me God does have a sense of humor. Being repayed for your love has to suck....

[@dld3151]

This absolutely nails the experiences I've had in my recent 4-year relationship. I'm 73 and the lady is 74. This condition knows no age boundaries. Thank you, Lise. Now I understand. Fortunately, the relationship just ended!!

[@kiwidiesel]

😂😂74 and still in the game, bravo. I've checked out at 46.

[@rahulkukar3929]

Lise - you literally hit the nail on the head, using words that we feel, but cannot transfer from thoughts and feelings into speech, or articulate - you read our minds - keep up the incredible work - you have no idea how much you help us

[@Andrew-xv7mz]

I second that.

[@Ej.-fc5md]

100%

[@DannyBurch-bo5mn]

Even small issues, become a federal case.

[@Ej.-fc5md]

lol so true!

[@Rick40years]

Exactly

[@MoMoneyMark501]

lol great analogy

[@luizfelipesantiagobittenco7445]

Perfeito

[@othmane-mezian]

A nuclear crisis

[@Kyle-nl3jq]

It’s shocking how spot on this is to the situation. I am in with my mother, especially the part where you don’t even bring up problems because you know it will start a fight the whole holiday season. I kept my mouth shut while she did a whole bunch of toxic things That made me uncomfortable increased my blood pressure and caused panic attacks and I waited until at least two months to say something and what I brought up was a very small issue in a very calm, respectful manner. I was just trying to let her know that some of her actions negatively affect me Then it spun out of control. She started calling me, overly sensitive, saying that I’m at fault for making her unhappy all the time I tell her what to do and I’m a jerk and make the whole situation about her instead of recognizing that maybe I should step back and stop doing these things that are negatively affecting Others. It doesn’t matter how calm you are or how mature you are approaching a sensitive topic or even a topic that shouldn’t be that sensitive with someone like this because they will immediately start yelling, threatening and throwing everything back in your face to make you feel bad about yourself Instead of reflecting on their actions and admitting that what they are doing is wrong.

[@mikepoppjr]

Now I understand why my father drank

[@user-cg8if3eq7d]

You'd be better off with accepting she can't meet you on even ground, can't be accountable, can't see anyone else's emotions or position as valid, sees life thought telescopic vision....and just give up. Forgive her for the things that are hurtful, she is damaged.You'll feel like you're going through the motions of a relationship, but it's been one sided all along. Going along to get along is your only option here, aside from distance. Resolution, isn't in their vocabulary. Show up, smile and nod

[@JohnSmith-wo7ns]

Brilliantly accurate. If you do manage to please somebody like this their gratitude lasts minutes then your on the back foot again. She could look like a supermodel but the mental torture is not worth the relationship. I became more and more depleted until I was a wreck. They choose chaos and aggravation over peace and love. Get away quickly if possible and keep them out of your life. They're very persuasive but it's all lies.

[@FranklinFranklin1234]

When did you meet my mom? 😂

[@sigurdm]

😂😂😂

[@gohantanaka]

Same day she met my wife.

[@matthewishunting]

Hey long lost brother! 😂

[@NitchBigga]

😂

[@JesseBila]

😂

[@Chenglishman]

Dad passed away, got hit by a car on Citibike and injured my shoulder, had a GI surgery, but I didn’t spend enough time with her and she always felt lonely. All of this despite me seeing her twice a month, planning every date, cooking 5 course meals, pleasing her in every way while I still made time to support my grieving mother. “You don’t care about me”, “I felt lonely the entire time dating you”, “I want to date other people” (even though I already am). Meanwhile she always made promises to do something small "I want to buy you a dinner sometime", "I want to make you a picnic", "I want to go on a double date with you and my friend", etc. Never did any of those. When I brought them up, she said she didn't feel special enough. It's all circular. "You don't make me special enough (despite all you do), but I won't do anything that brings us closer because I don't feel special. I will make promises though." Good riddance. This video was so accurate it’s scary.

[@ma3alimezo82]

Sorry for your loss man.

[@Chenglishman]

@ thank you. Wish you healing and peace as well.

[@ClaireJ89]

That sounds like my mom. Made my dad miserable with those same things, for 30 years. My mom has borderline personality disorder. They are narcissistic, cluster b.

[@yee6870]

i had a dude like this. he would say all those nice things and promise me we would meet and all, but we never met in person. he would always hold a lot of things against me. he is an effing mess

[@aaronlee4869]

I would use every angle imaginable, and it was always me belittling her. When I learned how to not react to her, she just escalated the fight. And she was always in the right. And always about her needs. The biggest red flag was when my mom passed away. She didn’t have any empathy at all. She didn’t sit down to comfort myself or my kids. She just complained about what was wrong with her.

[@josmclove4426]

They are like androids.Empty inside!

[@Rixster53]

@@josmclove4426They are evil!!!!😢

[@ma3alimezo82]

Dude this is what the creature behaves like with me. Divorced her after years of trauma, and she continues. Because I can't get away from communicating with her due to child

[@sweetannsour1794]

​@josmclove4426 That's not fair. I'm empty inside, and it's very damaging to my relationships. I have to consciously plan out my reactions and choose my words in situations like death or illness. It's from being raised by a narcissist. I learned early that my feelings don't matter, so at some point I stopped having them. I think narcissists have a lot of feelings, just not for anyone else. I don't even have them for myself. I just long to be alone, but you gotta make a living.

[@erickonassis6310]

At 2 am too

[@heyoldman2003]

oh Lise . spot on right down the line . i thank God daily i am out of her web.. you guys that may be in this spot …RUN. !!! you can’t be good enough to fix her . nice enough to keep her happy . believe me i tried for 40 years.. but thankfully i reconnected with a Lady i have known since we were 5 years old and has ALWAYS been good to me . we married a year ago and we are both very happy together.. dont settle for less . thank you again Lise 🙏🏼. you are helping so many guys ! and happy New Year

[@Ej.-fc5md]

blessings and you are right 100%. Lise is the best too!

[@everett8610]

The biggest problem with the narcissist is no one is home. I mean there is no basic agreement that everyone deserves respect. So you can’t assume your thoughts and beliefs about people will be shared by the narcissist it will not. So you’re dealing with a very sick person who constructs relationships by their personal feelings in the moment and don’t have that basic commonality of being just another human being. They lack that. And you cannot have a close relationship with such a selfish minded person.

[@Ej.-fc5md]

100%

[@josmclove4426]

Spot on!

[@TAKINGBACKCANADAwithKatie]

Well said!! ⚡️

[@NightOwlGames]

according to me ex "respect is earned not given" so she can treat anyone badly until she decides they deserve some respect. where i respect everyone i speak to i dont know you but i respect you already its up to you how you spend that respect if that makes sense? a narc cant do that you gotta earn their respect theres a difference.

[@TAKINGBACKCANADAwithKatie]

@ I had a teenager pull that on me in a foods class when I was working at a high school. She was rude and snotty to everyone and didn’t like being called on it I looked at her and said oh cool …so who goes first??? I noticed a little shift after that day

[@hollistermommie]

Wow! I was just telling my brother the other day that it’s as if our mom is stuck emotionally as a 16 year old girl. Catty, vindictive, judgy, all of it. Thank you for helping me understand this is a real thing!

[@deselby6669]

She is stuck at 4 years old or younger..failure to launch emotionally

[@mramces3716]

Thank you so much Lise, i can not remember a single day with my npd/bpd ex gf without a fight , almost everyday walking on eggshells and at the end of the day there was a thing or two that she brought up to fight and argue. When i was about to leave she would have begged like a child to give her another chance and then .... Silent treatment for a week or two till she get a pass to resume her bad behaviors 😂😂😂. Now I'm free for 11 months went fully nc but her damage was so huge to bear that it took me so long to heal. Am still healing but im happier than thee time being with her. Your vids helped a lot , thx from the bottom of my heart ❤

[@stevennelson2055]

Nothing worse than going home after a long day knowing 100% there is going to be a fight, you don’t know what it’ll be about that night, but you know there will be one, and you will have to apologize. Sometimes they’ll start during the day before you even get home, but will be livid if you didn’t hurry home as soon as possible. Damned if you do damned if you don’t, literally damned no matter what you do or say, there is no winning and no resolution for you.

[@heyoldman2003]

@@stevennelson2055 like living in a mine field 😞

[@TAKINGBACKCANADAwithKatie]

Congrats on NC with her. These energy vampires are brought into our lives to mirror back the parts of us that need healing ❤️‍🩹 and raises our consciousness 💗💯✨

[@mramces3716]

Over time, you gradually become numb-losing every sense. Paralyzed by the venom, consumed by anxiety, trapped, furious... And does she take any accountability? Not a chance. I feel you, bro. ♥️ 100%

[@heyoldman2003]

@ good discription.. i too became numb. i lived under blind compliance . i just did whatever i was told … that was the only way i could have any sense of peace .. if you can even call it that .. best plan ? RUN !! and never look back

[@OfSoulAndSin]

It wasn’t almost everything, I was blamed for everything that went wrong, including the weather! Yes, I’m in charge of the weather.

[@josmclove4426]

Lol, I feel you!

[@Alex-1750]

Makes sense .. I was also in charge of the injuries she suffered while exercising , her low calcium levels etc

[@tonymiller3788]

I get blamed for the things the dog and cats do. I get blamed for anything bad the kids do. I feel your pain.

[@mikepoppjr]

Now I understand why my father Drank

[@LiseLeblanc-m9i]

Good will surely finish what he stated in your life, for everything works together for good, if you love the podcast, to know more about this podcast🤍🤍sᴇɴᴅ🤍🤍ᴍᴇ🤍🤍ᴀ🤍🤍ᴅɪʀᴇᴄᴛ🤍🤍ᴛᴇxᴛ🤍±𝟷𝟸𝟶𝟽𝟽𝟷𝟿𝟺𝟼𝟼𝟼

[@joao3547]

I'd say most men drink because of women

[@arniep740]

You nailed it again. Took 20 years have this marriage end but thank goodness. Better late than never! I can't recall a single time she EVER admitted she was wrong about ANYTHING or apologize for anything. Yet I stuck with it for wayyyyy toooo long.

[@Brian-qg9bm]

20 years in what I like to call "Dante's 2nd level of domestic Hell" with a vulnerable narc, trying to hold on to my relationship with our two autistic kids. We finally arrived at the inevitable when she thought she found a new source for narcissistic supply. Completely destroyed in the break-up, I lost or gave up my home and everything I own, even my dog. It got bad enough that I had to call our State Troopers, then fled the house, busted down to just my truck and some clothes. It goes without saying she's doing the parental alienation thing, of course. Her new "supply" didn't sign up to take over payments, so she's gone even further over the mental edge. This is what pathology looks like - When my dearly beloved realized our state court system wont abide parental alienation because they see it as a form of child abuse, she balked! Her need to impose pain and suffering is so great, she can't proceed with the divorce she demanded. Because of that, she's not getting the alimony and child support she had been threatening me with for years. Since I know damned well she's hurting financially, probably facing bankruptcy, I reached out to her via text message and offered to pay the mortgage, heating fuel, electricity and groceries, no questions asked, no strings attached, just "Here's the money. Please take it." SHE'S FIGHTING ME ON IT! She's refusing to cooperate and blaming me! I'm also "guilty" of failing to provide her the money I haven't given her before this, and haven't yet given her in the future. Imagine going to court, facing an avalanche of insults and accusations and then trying to explain something like this to the judge.

[@antoniolima1068]

didn't you notice at beginning of relationship, a triage? "do not put your d### in crazy" , are fun but tainted and contagious.

[@Bor-Time]

Stay strong!

[@jodi6043]

Lise, you are thee best expert in the world when it comes to covert narcissism. It’s unreal!

[@DcKrowAnon]

Hello Lise! 👋 Thank you for taking the time to help us all understand best. Have a Happy New Year!

[@mpsangha]

This is how my ex with BPD was... The most up and down 8 months of my life ... The sex was other worldly... I'm glad I got out. Took me over a year to get over it and heal.

[@Axrover]

Thats why crazy girls are soo much fun. If ur into that (and I am) you have to know how to deal manage her.

[@dmarqus9823]

5 months of healing and still have more to go but growing everyday 🤙

[@MasterandMargarita01]

how were these 8 months for you? how long did the idealization phase last before the first conflicts started?

[@lavenderkisses9461]

@@MasterandMargarita01from watching my mom and dad go through it it really just depends on her. You will always be at the mercy of how she feels, there will be no shared respect, a lifetime of begging for forgiveness for any perceived grievance.

[@MasterandMargarita01]

@@lavenderkisses9461 and how frequently these situation occur? like on average

[@OfSoulAndSin]

Imagine your child accidentally dropping a $3 plate from Target and your wife, the mother of that child, going into a two hour nuclear meltdown about how horrible her life is 😢

[@josmclove4426]

🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🙆🏿‍♀️

[@funkysawmanwright5077]

Deal with it. Everyone has problems and nobody is perfect. Give support, give it your all, GOD IS THE ONE THAT WILL SEE YOUR KINDNESS AND GOOD FORGIVING HEART

[@Rick40years]

I've seen that movie before. My wife went into a meltdown because I lit a candle that was given to her as a gift. One small example.

[@funkysawmanwright5077]

@Rick40years it wasn't your candle to light! I guess I'm well trained after enduring 15 years with a narc

[@erickonassis6310]

F that, that's torture...

[@pedrokarstguimaraes1096]

Lise, You’re great! You’re already the most profund specialist in that issue… But even so, you go deeper. This vídeo is absolutely acurrate! My experience of 10 years support it. Plus 1,5 years beeing apart… very dificult that It’s impossible, for those reasons, to help that woman to deal with her disorder. It’s also a pain for me.

[@Bibleinformationandhelp]

I am very thankful for videos like these. I really started to understand people so much more. Being gas-lit can really mess with your mind. It is good hear the truth from a professional. Now I am better how to deal with a narcissists. When you choose to be a more person, some people may see it as an opportunity to take advantage. That's very sad.

[@maxsmith695]

I am fortunate not to have Narcissists in my family or close circles, but I can see they are out there. The points that are made in the videos on this channel, correspond to the words and actions of such persons, that I have observed. These videos make a fairly complicated subject matter, easy to decode.

[@lunarae8037]

Passive aggressive slamming doors purposefully accusing people of things they were responsible for outbursts. Thanks for your insights!

[@papakael8247]

Spot on timing. Im struggling with the brain fog of a post narcissistic relationship. This validated that Im not crazy, I saw these patterns. I wasn't overreacting. Although I did overreact at the end when I finally broke. Because of this I question myself despite overwhelming evidence.

[@krystofpoboril]

That's incredible how precisely you describe my own experience with somebody. Thank yout for that.

[@SummitMan165]

Excellent épisode ! Thanks for sharing with us !

[@Ej.-fc5md]

Lise you are amazing. #9 described my passed situation 100%.

[@adammartin3057]

It's like you have been taking copious field notes on my last relationship.

[@JamesNGames]

I was foolish enough to return to the clutches of my narcissist. After everything, I convinced myself it might be easier since we share a home and a life full of tangled possessions. She dangled just enough empty promises, little hints of change, to pull me back in. I wanted to believe them. But barely a week after I returned-after being forced out of my own home for 30 days on the back of her false accusations-the truth slammed into me. It was all just another twisted trap. I knew, deep down, that I was walking into it. I thought maybe, just maybe, I could flip the script, take control, and fix things while I was on the inside. I should have known better. Instead, I’ve handed her and her enablers even more ammunition, a fresh vein of chaos for them to exploit. It’s sickening to find myself here again, but I can’t even blame anyone else this time. I knew what I was dealing with. This is the price I pay for trying to salvage something from the ashes of a fire that’s long since burned me alive. I hate myself for being so blind, so desperate to believe in something better. Now, all that’s left is to untangle myself again, piece by piece, and crawl out of this mess. I don’t know how yet, but I have to. There’s no other way forward.

[@borcsabba]

I’m just in the process of leaving my narcissitic wife… and your story definitely serves as an important warning sign. Thanks for sharing it!

[@johnconnors2386]

I and many others were as hopeful as you and have done the same thing. Try to forgive yourself. You are faithful, Forgiving, Loyal and hopeful. Those are good traits. Sadly, traits that she saw in you early in your relationship that caused her to pray upon you. Being a good person is not a bad thing, Praying upon a good person is! Good health to you!

[@kingsladegaming9347]

Wishing you the best on your escape and recovery🙏🏼 It’s painful. I’m now watching my 23 yo son enter back into yet another highly toxic relationship, this time with a narcissist. Last yrs hell was a borderline. How, why, HOW he can walk into this firestorm again, after all he (and we as his family) went through last yr, I cannot wrap my head around. These disordered women must have some kind of strange power to be able to do this to such incredible men. Our son is kind, so loving, forgiving, thoughtful, patient, affectionate, handsome, athletic, creative, and high performing in his giftings. Why choose bottom of the barrel?? I’m not y’all, so don’t understand. I sure wish each of you a successful escape, and I pray a strong and healthy recovery of yourselves that LASTS.🙏🏼

[@histreasure3189]

❤​@@kingsladegaming9347

[@jessecamp2752]

You can do it man. You have to do it for your own sake. I have done similar to what you described and I am pulling myself back up as well. I have faith that you can because you must. 🙏

[@HopeFaithExpect77]

Lil reflective to end 2024. This is exactly how my ex gf was/is. She thankfully discarded me 12mos ago for a guy she monkeybranched to but am sure she will cycle out of that trying return to me again...no thanks. Im a 👻

[@jessecamp2752]

It's her way or there's hell to pay.

[@stevennelson2055]

Even if you give them their way, you did it wrong

[@DebbieLee-dr3hr]

Oh, there will be some hell to pay.

[@Quantumalgox]

Lise: a blessing in the field, her specificity is unmatched on line

[@LiseLeblanc-m9i]

Thanks for your time! As hyped as i am about getting more good content out! Don’t forget to like the video🤍🤍sᴇɴᴅ🤍🤍ᴍᴇ🤍🤍ᴀ🤍🤍ᴅɪʀᴇᴄᴛ🤍🤍ᴛᴇxᴛ🤍±𝟷𝟸𝟶𝟽𝟽𝟷𝟿𝟺𝟼𝟼𝟼

[@Matthew89Miller]

ln 2025 l highly recommend everyone to read keezano’s book Your Life Your Game. It beautifully shows how connecting with God and focusing on your family can lead to spiritual growth, stronger relationships, and success in both your personal and professional life. This book truly changed my life… A must-read. God bless!💟

[@RK.daviddavid]

That book helped my sister who was a narcissist

[@ambarpathak6237]

I am done with her. I am going to start 2025 with a fresh mindset and the lessons learnt. I tried to help her out of this chaos, what I got is silent treatment, cold corners of her heart, illusion of lies and a black whole that consumes all my energy without giving anything back. You can't turn them around if they don't wish to. I don't want to weigh myself down with hurt or negative emotions, my heart is too pure for that, I let her go with grace, cause I did learn valuable lessons that will stay with me for life. I see her future and feel so helpless cause it is dark if she does not work on herself. But I don't want to stay in the barren land where the river of emotions and love does not flow. I tried a sow the seed of a beautiful relationship, but she destroyed it like a flood. I have to find myself again, love myself again and begin a new journey weaved in the beauty of life untethered to anything that can destroy my peace, joy, love and everything else. I let her go with grace to find me again.

[@gazoo7411]

All true. I think this applies to both men and women. Stay away from these people if you can..............

[@georod5642]

It’s so crazy when almost ALL of these things like 99% of these are spot on with my ex gf. Incredible when you get away and finally heal, took me years. Please disconnect completely, the more you identify this with this personality disorder and believe it, you’ll accept and get away. Believe me when you go no contact they will be back, be prepared to ignore or grey rock, you’ll feel better

[@speciallion1135]

Yep, I am afraid I am DONE - even with the idea of a relationship. I just do solo, now.

[@papakael8247]

This is how I feel. I went on two dates with the same girl after my ex. I saw all the old patterns right away. Now I have zero interest. Likes and messages go unanswered. Just thinking about a relationship makes me aggitated and frustrated. It's my expectation through experience that a relationship will always be difficult. I have no interest.

[@speciallion1135]

@@papakael8247 Best to work on the relationship with yourself. I saw a meme the other day, it said : “if you remove sex from a relationship, 90% of women have nothing else to offer”

[@JulianVats]

Thank you Lise Leblanc

[@docaff]

You described my wife to a tee. All 10 traits between this video and the last are things she does regularly. And thank you for describing the splitting part. I knew it was a characteristic of covert narcissists, but I never knew the term for it.

[@DoraExplora-o1g]

Valuable Perspective 🙏🏼

[@johnmccarthy5245]

This is great. Thanks, Lise.

[@trukklob2227]

I don't know why this video was presented to me today, but I needed it. God...? Maybe... dealing with a female narcissistic partner at work, this was invigorating.

[@AA-iy4gm]

Most videos are geared towards narcissist partners and only some towards parents and even less so those towards coworkers but the job market is full of them. They often have their little cliques and play a convincing game of the office friendly, knowledgeable person but in the background they chose one person to unleash their insecurities at when nobody suspected them...good luck to you, now there are more videos with helpful advice than ever before. It's possible to defend yourself but it isn't an easy battle especially if you have to work with them and can't ignore them and only do your own work. Practice grey rocking, indifference, growing your own confidence, keeping to yourself and evaluating real well who you can trust at work.

[@8020-t8g]

You hit the nail on the head with this!

[@jongkysurjopranoto9361]

Thank you very much Lise 🙏

[@johnheart6890]

How I wish these were not true, but….. they are: these are all accurate descriptions.

[@simonbowden8408]

Absolutely my ex wife and ex gf. And they project all these exact issues on you. Rigid thinking (often shows up in need for order), splitting, black and white thinking. Ex disconnected as soon as she moved to Belgium & I said I couldn't spend as much time supporting her. Why oh why is this condition so common, especially in women imo?

[@histreasure3189]

Good question @why does it appear that the condition is so common? I also wonder.

[@JamesOMalley-hb4tf]

Society has allowed women to run rampant with virtually no consequences for bad choices and bad behavior. To a large extent civilization has been gas lighter by feminism movements. Instead of an individual being gaslit by a narcissist we are getting massively gaslit by feminist ideology. Happy wife happy life! 😂 Old school rules for women existed to protect them from themselves. Those rules are gone and they can take half your money and get the house anytime they choose to do so. As long as this is allowed civilization will continue to erode. It's literally that simple. Very few women have the mental capabilities to understand the world on the same level as a mature sober man. Even lower level girls still end up with lots of govt benefits for the kids and child support etc. Revoke female suffrage and it all goes back to normal.

[@iamtheroadwanderer]

Thank you, Mrs Lisa.

[@jcaleca60]

I see you met my x wife 😮

[@JasonJones-x5e]

You too huh?

[@borcsabba]

Sounds exactly like my (almost) ex wife

[@janetromey7522]

My x. He was a Histrionic covert malignant and overt. It was like a narc male and female. Lots of demons in there. 😢

[@jerrodblack6442]

Oh man. To a frickin T

[@cvp5882]

You know my ex, too!? Lol this girl gets around

[@hgsupertramp]

My mother always act kind of calm, but always in a passive-agressive way, and that drove me crazy. I got trauma bond and ptsd, she invalidated everything about me. I broke off relations with her and we haven't spoken to each other for 10 years, and that is undoubtedly one of the best descisions of my life. She is also a catholic and always liked to hid his attitudes behind that mask. She simply never owned anything and always had to come out on top in every discussion. It's evil. This woman broke me. You 'll never be treated like a human by a narcisist, and the covert is the worst of them all because they are exactly that, covert.

[@RippleDrop.]

This is soooo spot on

[@sloanmagnum5009]

When i finally separated from my ex-wife, who is a narcissist, in my opinion, I never felt better. After the initial anger, resentment, grief and frstration from all the abuse I put myself through trying to make it work, I finally became indifferent. I was so content and happy almost all the time. It was a high that I rode for many years afterward. I just felt free. It was liek waking up from a nightmare. I couldn't believe I was capable of feeling this good. I havent talk to or seen my ex wife since we separated and I never plan on it. She will get nothing but silence and absence from me. Shes tried to hoover here and there and its not happening. I want nothing to do with her.

[@realBeltalowda]

Yep! Every single one of these is true and being on the receiving end of this is absolutely horrible!

[@jimmydavidson7570]

This is more common than I thought, but it helps a lot to understand what's going on, I've been dealing with this for 29 years. It's not hard to know if you've done something wrong or not. So I take it with a grain of salt now.

[@MaryPoppins-d1k]

This a great video 👍👍. You just described my 20 year old coworker

[@LiseLeblanc-m9i]

Thanks for your time! As hyped as i am about getting more good content out! Don’t forget to like the video🤍🤍sᴇɴᴅ🤍🤍ᴍᴇ🤍🤍ᴀ🤍🤍ᴅɪʀᴇᴄᴛ🤍🤍ᴛᴇxᴛ🤍±𝟷𝟸𝟶𝟽𝟽𝟷𝟿𝟺𝟼𝟼𝟼

[@ATTENUATOR28]

Quality content Lise. Thank you.. Happy new year 😊

[@LiseLeblanc]

Thank you, Happy new year!

[@johnnylundh]

I wish you a happy new year 🎉with respect and love, yours thoroughly Johnny.

[@romanryunin487]

Explained perfectly. Thank you.

[@TAKINGBACKCANADAwithKatie]

Thanks Lisa 🙏🏼💝you absolutely nailed this!!!

[@LiseLeblanc]

Thank you so much!

[@TAKINGBACKCANADAwithKatie]

@ your very welcome. Happy New Year’s Eve🎉🌟🌏 May 2025 be filled with inner peace✌🏼, good health, and good fortune from doing what we love 💝

[@ma3alimezo82]

Lise. Your videos genrally have been unbelievably helpful. I like hearing your explanations. But man. I was off watching narc explanation videos for a couple.of months. I thought i was ok. Then my ex wife and then my sister have been hitting me.non stop. You can ask them what do you want from me, so I can fix it.or apologize if i am wrong? These bloody people cannot tell you. They want.to punish because you refuse to continue to be used by them emotionally. Ita disgusting.im so angry with myself for having a child with such a person. But my sister? I cant believe how she changed. My nasty narc father and codependent mother caused this. And then.we are now.adults and having to take.full responsibility for our "choices" after being raised in that hellhole of physical emotional and psychological abuse. Ive worked on myself a lot.

[@MegaRockstar48]

I think splitting was the hardest part as I felt like there were two people in her head and she could flip on a coin toss between the two.

[@meme-zv7kw]

You just described my mom

[@caroleroy742]

This can also apply to men being narcissists. Pretty much spot on to some men I know.

[@Nicer_Ricer_JDM]

Damn this is sad because I just realized my ex was a covert narcissist… I tried to work everything even when I was wrong and I held myself accountable 💯

[@Tulsaistalking]

Great channel, do you had any tips on how to identify a therapist "We'll like i percieve you to be based on your content" Comfort in speaking and reaso ing in terms of abstract systems in a cognitively open Way. "Here is what I'm thinking, why I see it that way and what I think it means i your case and why i think this pattern of reason applies in your case" Probably outside the mean distribution in terms of hyperconscientious and affiliative reasoning.. I have read several books by therapists and psychs that were very useful. And who I I'm quite certain would naturally lean in the direction I'm looking for. However, my first experience with both were.. not particularly useful. Less explorers and thinkers and more administerialists. "Whilr I'm sure there approach and temperament Probably serve many people well" Despite allowing for around ~6 months for them, it wasn't possible to find a communication pattern with them that was fruitful.

[@Tulsaistalking]

Essentially i ran into into the familiar obstacle.. which I have broadly identified as simply being a bit to foreign to their experience to achieve meaningful levels of mutual understanding. Overton windows analogy So i never succeeded in establishing basic trust and rapport with them to open up.. I ended up reflexively and defensively masking.. while i did attempt to to make explicit to them that while there musings seemed sensible in terms of reacting in ways I find predictable to the mask. They were being led to far a field from what needed to be addressed by my apparently "successful" ability to blend into their projections.. and my actual concerns hadn't surfaced yet. While likely unreasonably high safety needs it's certainly part of the challenge in terms of obstacles on my part. behind it lay another. If it's relevant, the only real place i found people clustered that felt "natural" and easy to communicate in in is basically a "support group" is a highly selective discord group for "schizoid pd" My current line of thought is essentially to look therapists who specialized in less than conventional approaches. "Not because I want 'unconventional' persay. But rather as a type proxy to identify temperaments and cognitively styles amongst professionals more likely in my opinion to correlate to finding a person that would be a good fit.

[@barrywatts8501]

Iv been looking for this! This is it. My partner fits this description perfectly. Just have to agree with her or she go's mad!!! We have five kids so it's impossible to get away from her. Fallen out with almost all my family! New on the list is my mum and Dad. Now it's difficult for the kids to see their grand parents. She confuses me all the time. It's always my fault. NEVER admits to HER mistakes! Will never improve or learn as she is ALWAYS in the right! It's a much harder life living with this person. Can't wait to get old and die!!! Be very carefully who you have kids with!

[@OscarDayTV]

take care man split from her and learn and educate yourself all about this stuff and enjoy your life man you only live once. both and your kids will have a better life in the longrun. it may be hard in the beginning but ttrust me its worth it

[@pharxahghxst3654]

i experienced all of this

[@Mr...M...]

Backflash. I always think it was my fault. Until someone ask if i am a stupid to let do that to me. That was a massive change in my sight of her. All the Hollywood she made felt apart. Open eyes changed a lot.

[@darinsmith2458]

conflict... to me they just draw you into their world.. i would say that they are emotionally disconnected..

[@warthogA10]

So glad I no longer have to deal with any of this.. My ex wife was/is just a flat out pathological narcissist, just a horrible, horrible person and mother. Several professionals also felt she had/has borderline personality disorder, ..but she would never go for counseling, even when ordered by the court. Mix in alcohol and substance ab use which was her family's hobby, and you get nothing but absolute misery.

[@privateprivate8366]

I actually had a “friend” who was likely a malignant narcissist. ALWAYS looking for a fight. Restaurants. Gas stations. Management in the apartment complex. I got the impression she felt she was giving me a great impression like, “You’re lucky to be with me!” Meanwhile, my thought was, “We will never be seen together again.”😂

[@FulvioGa]

Is it possible to improve her emotional intelligence?

[@CJ_Pharaoh]

Thank you, Lise

[@Quantumalgox]

THE BEST SOURCE FOR ANALYSIS --->

[@richgarey6079]

As I told my ex there were 2 ways to do everything - her way and the wrong way. She said I was intolerant because I didn’t think just like her. I suggested she look up the meaning of the word, which went over well as you might guess.

[@sweetannsour1794]

Yikes. That's my mom. When I was a kid, I never really understood why my mom's "friends" wouldn't answer the door sometimes when they were obviously home. I was uncomfortable about it even as a little kid. By my early teens, I knew something was wrong with her and I started to not like her either, but was also emotionally crippled and scared to be without her. It's a horrible paradox. She's 95 and lives with me now and she hasn't changed a bit. If anything she is worse. She displays all of these traits mentioned. Then she gets on her phone, that *I* pay for, and talk shit to her old co-workers to whom she never showed her crazy side. They were the control group. If they only knew how she talks about them and tells their personal business.

[@s1n4m1n]

Sounds like my wife. In my opinion, for men in relationships with low EQ wives, it really doesn’t matter if she is a covert narcissist or not, the effects are the same.

[@texan903]

These people live an alternate reality that they've mentally created and expect everyone else to adapt to. She thinks the world revolves around her and will climb anyone's back to get her way. Any request she makes must be satisfied. Otherwise, she will gossip and backstab anyone who tells her no. Anyone who she perceives to surpass her success will be spoken negatively about. A discussion won't work to resolve the issue. Eventually, a misunderstanding will arise with her that forces you to reexamine the relationship altogether, and an emotionally mature person soon finds that they have more to lose than gain by remaining tethered to this person.

[@fizzyfish-k4q]

Your video are great at explaining what female narcissism is and how to deal with it. But could you please make a video explaining how they became female narcissist in the first place? Is it nature or nurture? How did it all start?

[@nothing-b2n]

That is EXACTLY HER

[@Theantinarc]

All of these symptoms could also indicate " reactive "abuse". Especially in someone who has a long history of being abused.

[@2kscientist620]

They always see you as an enemy when you don’t comply to their cheating and drug usage

[@kingsix2000]

The most prominent traits on this list with the covert type woman I had in my life was: Extreme Jealousy - anything that could be viewed as sexual competition (working with female customers, getting support from female administrators at work, past relationships, and famous people. It was completely out of the order to make a positive comment about a female superhero (such as Wonder-woman) as any of these things would trigger her insecurities and create a meltdown. Passive Aggression: Every time she got a "no" or even a "not now, later" she would go into passive aggressive tactics to try to manipulate me to do what she wanted. She would be catty and mean for weeks on the end. The game ended after the fact that what she wanted me to change no longer was possible. Then suddenly she was a peach and loving again. Distrust: she never believed anything I said and claimed that she always had to check what I said. It could be a claim about politics or an event in the world and she never would trust a word. That makes conversations about anything quite pointless I think. When I say the end started to stand up for my claims and not accept that she is not the arbiter of truth, she would predictably go into another meltdown of crying, cattiness and mean spirited slights. Insane... I realized at the end that it is ok to leave a relationship that makes you feel bad. You don't need a diagnosis on the partner and you don't need their permission. What makes it hard is however that you don't want to hurt them. And they are very good at ostentatiously displaying vulnerability to get you to do what they want.

[@gliderpilot6864]

My son from a previous marriage passed away and it destroyed me. All she could do after a month was complain that I had not finished remodeling the basement. Narcissists are Satan Among Us.

[@LiseLeblanc]

@@gliderpilot6864 I’m so sorry for your loss and to hear that you received no empathy from your partner

[@jwonbowling8373]

I swear you know my girlfriend. You literally just described her to a T as if you have a camera in our house and another one in her head. If i dont give her 24/7 attention she will eventually explode into a tantrum abd actually calls it disrespectful. Ignoring the fact that we have two children that i have to give attention to because she negkects them because shes so self absorbed. To say the idealization snd devaluing cycle is exhausting is an understatement. Im 6 years in abd u feel absolutely drained just dealing with her on a day to day basis. Im literally raising theee girl. A 5 year old, a 8 year old and a 27 year old that is about as emotijally stable as a 12 year old and im not exaggerating. The more i learn about her personality disorders(NPD/BPD) the more i feel hopeless as she absolutely refuses to go to therapy. She says its not for everyone abd and that its one sided. She has to have a regular argument to keep herself relevant in her own mond but shes basically aeguing with herself as i ask her what exactly is the problem that she never can articulate at which point i just leave the house and comeback to her acting as if her tantrum never happened. Its draining and ememotinally abusive. The real issue is how it has affected these kids. I know i can deal with it because shes legitimately not in touch with reality but when i see how it uosets the kids it hurts me and yelling back at her doesn't resolve but adds fuel to the fire as its like trying to argue logic with a rock....ok im done

[@narrowjourneyz8665]

Or talking to a brick wall.I’ve learned to keep things short and simple and don’t give them anything to fuel their disillusioned fire.Just smile and wave haha.Then again they will find something...Stay close to God he will help you and give you peace.

[@jwonbowling8373]

@narrowjourneyz8665 yea I legit haven't argued with her in years. I wasn't aware of her disorder back then but now I know it's not only pointless to argue with her but to try to sit down and have an adult conversation and come to an agreement or a solution is just as pointless because the next day it'll be as if the conversation never happened. But yes I am the closest I've ever been to God and he without doubt is present through this journey. As I read the Bible he addresses the exact issues im dealing with and my commitment to obeying him is the real reason I stay and endure this battle. 1 Corinthians 7:17 speaks to me specifically. I know the enemy is trying to use her to make me leave but I refuse. God is so present I can't even explain how but as you know the walk of faith comes with suffering. The reward is that it's not in vain and I'm here and able to fill in the blanks for these kids that their mother lacks in. My daughter who's name is Maci Grace at 5 years old has more emotional maturity than her mother and has the ability to not only forgive but take accountability for her mistakes and have empathy for others. When I see her develop into such an emotionally intelligent lil person it make me feel amazing that all these years of being in this relationship have been worth something. She leads the family in prayer at night as she has taught her mother and her older sister the "Our Father". Those moments are worth the terror I've endured with her mother I promise you. The way God works is absolutely amazing. I literally see the spiritual battle going on in my household as the enemy tries to get me out of the home. It's wild. Once your eyes are open you can't unsee the attacks and how the holy spirit is with you through them. Real life testimony right here.

[@Kyle-nl3jq]

The funny thing is is when I deal with my narcissistic mother, and she decides to give me the silent treatment. The first thing I think of is finally some silence and peace.

[@marcp.1752]

I've had women like that, sadly more than twice. It's mind blowing, disgusting, horrible...no words. Can't stand toxic behaviour, especially narcisist type. I am an empath, it literally kills me, that kind of emotional stress & damage, you have with that kind of women type.

[@blacksmith88]

One wrongly worded text message can turn into mayhem, and the relationship is over.

[@Fineb]

This is both my mom (no contact) and my step sister (low contact). Exhausting people to deal with.

[@DHW256]

Everything you say and do can and will be misconstrued and used against you, to make you look like a fool and her like a victim.

[@lordowusu5828]

Thank you so much

[@Joanthebrightone]

I’ve had to go no contact with my mom she is exactly like this. I don’t understand how they end up in any relationships. I only wish her peace.

[@MasterandMargarita01]

i experienced a lot of these behaviours with someone who has bpd. are these common traits there as well? it was more like ghosting, disappearing, defending, victim mentality, crying, blame shifting to others, work etc and passive aggressive behaviour, - not direct confrontation or anger outbursts

[@naioane740]

I flippin went through this🤦

[@verlonmason7114]

This entire video explains my ex to the "T" wow!!!