LISTEN | Part 1: Day 19 of Lori Vallow Daybell trial

[@lambrinafakos1954]

I’m so angry that Alex isn’t alive to face the consequences.

[@MissMala]

Something tells me he’s facing his consequences as we speak….

[@Gigi-MN]

He didn’t do this independently. He killed those children because of Lori and Chad

[@reynaolvera7526]

@@MissMala only if you believe in that. I wish he was here.

[@harrietthespy2119]

Purgatory may be his new normal! He got some kind of horrifying enjoyment in that which he spent his short life wasting time and effort: stand-up “comedy”, buying/shooting guns, plotting crimes, telling lies, dying a coward’s death, flouting rules/laws, harming innocent others by falsely accusing, framing, murdering, depriving of parental rights, depriving of parents, defrauding, dismembering, burying, and simulating sibling sex (some might call it incestuous bloodlust🤷‍♀️)

[@tonyatippetts2316]

Because of todays evidence Chad and Lori seem more involved than I thought. The hair was probably deposited while the duct tape was being put on, by Lori. Alex wasn't at the farm for long enough to bury JJ. I have been frustrated so far by lack of real evidence, but this is important.

[@jcrawford540]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who stays up waaay past bedtime waiting for this to drop every day

[@dianealarcon8304]

Right with you, my sleep habits are screwy 😀 I find myself listening at bedtime, and re-playing next day because I fell asleep. Justice for JJ, Tylee, Tamara, and Charles 🙏🏻👍

[@lt.ripley1590]

no you are not Jennifer. Ive not been to bed yet but going to have a snooze soon.

[@halimak625]

Same🇬🇧☺

[@mayamohamed9847]

​@@dianealarcon8304omg . Very same here ,🙊🙊🙊

[@jimskeuh]

this one was the most boring of all audio files i've listened. that guy was a borefest to listen to

[@margaretlumley1648]

Miss Coleman is fantastic. It's just a delight to listen to her testimony. However, I do wish Thomas would just go away, instead of bothering witnesses with his attempts to prove he knows more than the experts

[@eh1702]

I like how she just unhesitatingly says “I am not sure off the top of my head”. She is completely confident of what she does know, and doesn’t get caught up trying to argue why it would be completely ridiculous that a human being would know things like how many STRs exactly a human being has. (Since different individuals have different numbers anyway.)

[@evelynamaro2579]

He tries, but doesn’t understand the professions of the witnesses!!! He thinks he knows it all!!

[@lyndaczika6327]

Every time he starts with his meaningless questions, I am yelling “GO SIT DOWN”. He sounds ridiculous. He’s obviously trying to confuse the jury.

[@eh1702]

@@lyndaczika6327 He’s trying to blow a lot of smoke. His tactic is basically 1. Insist that forensic specialists and detectives explain in great detail everything all about someone else’s specialty or someone else’s task in the investigation. 2. reductio ad absurdem on everything. Is it POSSIBLE that a healthy 49 year old had her first ever seizure and died of it with added pulmonary embolism - after her husband clairvoyantly predicted she’d never reach 50, collected the insurance a week later, went in holiday and married the week after that… wearing clothes and a ring bought for the wedding before he was widowed? Sure, it’s POSSIBLE, just like it’s possible she actually had two brains in her skull, and one stayed alive long enough to let her clog-dance herself out of bed when she already in rigor mortis.

[@kristinm2668]

He’s making it worse for his client by getting into the weeds with all this.

[@grumpyone3806]

I can not thank East Idaho news and Nate Eaton enough for keeping us in the loop. I sure hope Nate Covers Chad's trial as well. Listening from the Great state of Minnesota.

[@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage]

Give this man a raise .love nate

[@halimak625]

🇬🇧 watching

[@argosz8046]

Nate said he will be covering Chad's trial.

[@krisschobelock4973]

Hoping that court will allow it be to shown! These are some sick idiots! Such a sad sad case!

[@charsiu_808]

I'm sure he will.. he is heavily invested in it

[@talmatan9785]

00:04:54 Keeley Coleman (DNA analyst) 00:16:04 Keeley Coleman starts to actually discuss the evidence 00:20:05 Keeley Coleman cross examination 01:01:01 Rick Wright (FBI Special Agent)

[@ladymondegreen7188]

Ditto

[@newswriting]

Thank you so much!

[@247KW]

Awesome

[@lisaduffy2100]

Gracias 😊

[@barbielee7523]

Many thanks 🌷

[@susanelizabeth2222]

40:15 Does this defence attorney really think he is confusing the jury? Or proving that there wasn't enough DNA to identify Lori? Or what? Just making himself look stupid. This is one reason I often do not listen to cross examinations in published trials. I would really like to know what the jury thinks of him.

[@kweenz109]

Right, like, I understand they have a job to do, and cases like this make their jobs so much more difficult; but it's just so painful to listen to. Grasping at straws, always lol.

[@LightedRainbow]

I wish the defense attorney would drink a few Red Bulls so we don't have to hear him yawning all the time.

[@deeznuts7375]

😂😂😂

[@macb8309]

Or breathing. I mean snoring.

[@poponachtschnecke]

He needs to lose a couple hundred pounds, he looks like his heart is about to give out.

[@melstiller8561]

My heartfelt thanks to Nate Eaton and East Idaho News for their reliable and thoughtful reporting on a case that has both horrified and captivated the hearts and attention of so many people. May justice finally come to JJ, Tylee, Tammy Daybell, and, eventually, Charles Vallow. 🙏⚖️💙❤️

[@RachelXKnight666]

The fact that the hair was found on the outside of the bag is even more damning in my opinion. You could argue transference to JJ from a hair that was already there but how would her hair get on the actual bag unless she had been around it

[@neverloozehope2238]

If he were murdered in her bedroom, they could easily say that it was transfer hair. But they are not sure where JJ was murdered.

[@caseyd9471]

If he was murdered and wrapped in Alex's apartment, it wouldn't be weird to find her hair there. I'm surprised the defense didn't even try to offer that as an excuse considering that's their theory for where JJ was killed. I think they definitely dropped the ball there (I also think Lori's guilty as hell, but that sort of defense is BARE MINUMUM work).

[@tammyirwin703]

@@caseyd9471I wish they would show her cell phone pings and where her phone was tracking during all of this 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@bevtrue6937]

@@tammyirwin703 I am sure they did do that but i think in Alex's case it was burner phones purchased by him at walmart, pinging off of certain towers at specific times, also making calls to Lori. I am pretty sure they got 'em good. We will see soon.

[@caseyd9471]

@@tammyirwin703 part of the problem is that even if we did have her location, I have the feeling Lori thought far too much of herself to get her hands dirty. The state is doing a great job imo showing Lori had knowledge of and encouraged these murders, but I feel like trying to physically link her to them is barking up the wrong tree. She's a total princess and got Alex the "protector warrior" and sometimes Chad to do the dirty work. I doubt she was there when any of them were killed except maybe Charles, and she doesn't have to have been there to be guilty of the charged crimes. It's possible that she did help wrap JJ, but I wouldn't be surprised either if the duct tape picked up hair that was already in the area.

[@kaylaherfi759]

Witness Keeley Coleman was so articulate and concise.

[@kaylaherfi759]

The defense is trying really hard to trip her up, but she's too smart. AkA, knows what she's talking about

[@poppyfield1619]

She was very confident in putting her case forward. She knows her stuff!!

[@jamybailey]

She is brilliant! I was so impressed with her

[@jimskeuh]

the other guy on the other hand was a fucking borefest for 2 hours

[@wompppwompwomppp]

​@@kanaka- you must not realize what an expert witness is lol is this your first court case

[@lovelysphynx7396]

Hey guys I’ve decided to go to the trial. This is so surreal and probably once in a life time opportunity to see the most evil, vile creatures in human flesh

[@blockhartinabox]

Do you already live in Boise or close by? If you have to travel too far, I would personally think twice about spending too much money to come stay here, just bc there's no guarantee you'll actually get into the court room on any given day. Especially as the weeks go by and we get closer to closings. The online reservation system at the court house opens at 8am, and it's already full almost immediately, just bc there's limited seating and Soo many people are trying to get in. In that case you'll end up in an overflow room watching from a tv screen, and needless to say that wouldn't be worth the trip. But who knows you may get lucky! 🙂

[@wompppwompwomppp]

Let's stop pretending that these kids deaths are a fun trip to the zoo. It's not entertainment, unless you are a freak

[@tammyirwin703]

@@wompppwompwompppI don’t think it’s even remote to what your claiming. It’s called going and watching justice be served for 2 innocent children and Tammy.

[@robinbnd]

@@wompppwompwomppp Whats the difference if you are seeing them talk vs. listening to them talk on here? So you are saying we are all freaks?

[@CKOfreedom]

@@wompppwompwomppp The human race has always been both fascinated and entertained by unspeakable acts and those that perpetrate them, look at history and see how untrue your comment is in reality, what you suggest is what we may in current times wish was reality, but the truth of it is a wildly different matter.

[@poppyfield1619]

It's cringing hearing Mr.Thomas nit pick over Keeley's qualifications/experience🙄she already explained in detail what she has achieved! Why does she have to repeat it all again!!!

[@lakelizard8145]

The defense is desperate. They don't have anything. I agree It's annoying.

[@newswriting]

I'd listened to her explaining her achievements for the third time.

[@inadz.1111]

Because they have no defense, grasping ar straws

[@elizabethanderson3046]

Thomas wants to confuse the jury on repeating items that do not matter over and over to lose what was proved.

[@rehab5355]

@@elizabethanderson3046 what else can he do? i wonder what he says to daybell in the back-rooms

[@justineschoessler2312]

Thanks!

[@KimberlyAnnMaria]

I too appreciate your quick uploads of the trial. Thank you!

[@HairyEyeballNZ]

John Thomas is making himself sound really dumb cross examining Keeley Coleman.

[@macb8309]

He makes himself sound dumb EVERY time he crosses ANYBODY! The guy is a BOZO!!

[@user-jy3zl2vp4b]

And, imo, trying to vet her to later date her. Asking when she graduated to get her age! Asking the year she finished each degree. With his tone with the ladies...i am betting he is not married!

[@julesmay1615]

He’s definitely a negative John Thomas 😂

[@HairyEyeballNZ]

I always chuckle to myself when I hear his name because I am immature. “John Thomas in British English noun. a jocular word for penis.”

[@julesmay1615]

@@HairyEyeballNZ British too and can’t help but laugh when they say his name and he’s acting a bit of a d*** 😂

[@lucilledion5344]

Thank you Nate...listening from Quebec, Canada

[@DaDanceMom]

The defense got so lost in the weeds when crossing the DNA analyst. Likely, the jury understood nothing after, 'the hair on the duct tape was a match to Lori Vallow Daybell.'

[@nancyvotto9048]

I agree, Thomas is nauseating They already know the kids were murdered and who those children are, who cares about the minute details of DNA. Mom and Chad wanted the kids killed, Lori didn't report them missing because she knew exactly where they were. They should have checked Alex for some type of poisoning or substance that could have caused his blood clots, he may have been murdered too.

[@neverloozehope2238]

So am I staying up late at night to hear this. Alex's wife testified that Alex went to Mexico to get some " medicine ". That was after he told her he was afraid he was going to be the Fall Guy. Could it be that he took his own life?

[@eh1702]

It’s a cliché, but it is important because justice really does have to be seen to be done. We KNOW that in very emotive cases, the guilty have walked - and random other people, or the lowest spearcarriers, were the ones who went down hardest for it. If Alex were alive, probably Lori and Chad would still want to be tried together and everything would be blamed on him.

[@lmfao7558]

Unfortunately, there is a family history of what they say he died from, however he still could have killed himself.

[@CKOfreedom]

I don't personally think he's doing a good job of it but it's his job to provide a defence. Would you like a legal system that doesn't provide legal counsel to defendants based on your emotional reactions to events? People do heinous things, it's nothing new, it's part of life, always has been and always will be. If you or a person you loved/ cared for was ever accused of something (irrespective if if they did it or not) and ended up at trial I assure you that you would be very glad of the laws that require that defendants are provided with legal counsel.

[@montanalilac]

An autopsy was done on Alex. Did they not do a toxicology? I thought I read that it was done but perhaps i’m mistaken.

[@KristenHawk]

Her lawyers are so unlikable and their questioning is useless - trying to discredit the witnesses cuz that’s all they have. Ugh.

[@marilynstrong309]

Are they appointed as public defenders? Does anyone know?

[@cherarch62]

Keely Coleman. Wow! So well educated and articulate. You go girl!

[@famousamos1]

Lori’s defense attorney John Thomas cross examining Ms. Coleman. You got a bachelor degree in 2011 and 1 yr later you got a masters that’s normally a 5yr program. Ms. Coleman yes by my junior year I was already taking advance classes. John Thomas in his head dang young Ms. Coleman is way smarter than me!! Lol 😂

[@lynnegackstetter2779]

It would help if the defense had a clue about what they were asking a professional in a field. Instead he just throws out a word salad to pretend that he has a clue.

[@maureenseverance3834]

Tic Toc Lori, time is dripping by, it won't be long before JUSTICE comes and your time in the spot light ends and is replaced with cement walls and iron doors. Giving you plenty of time to reflect on what you did to Tylee and Joshua. I hope you stay there for the rest of your life.

[@kirsty3253]

she and stepmommy both need to die in prison... both are rotten... Love your Tic Toc Ms Maureen

[@Jay-fn2bh]

The parents owe Adam a big apology…the one good son. How sad for them to see how evil Lori and Alex became.

[@Canadian_Girl27]

Oh man! I lost what was going on after they said Hi to the witness. Lol! This person is extremely good at her job.

[@alison2649]

They discussed her education & credentials for WAY too long.

[@eh1702]

No, they needed every one of her qualifications, especially that she did her masters starting in the third year of her four year bachelors. Because the defense spent most of his time asking her impossible - nonsensical - questions like how many STRs a human being has. (It depends on the individual.) So that she had to say she did not know off the top of her head. But his questions in fact showed that she does know her stuff.

[@Libbertyone]

I really should not be up this late but here I go!!

[@margomorton4372]

I don’t even bother to listen to the defense. Waste of time .

[@OhDeerOregonTrail]

Thank you East Idaho News!

[@patriciaoconnell488]

I came in late to this trial. Now watching it again. Missed much. Thanks for keeping it on.

[@247KW]

Nate we love you and thank you for continuing to make sure the Tylee & JJ, Charles, and Tammy have a voice. East Idaho News you ROCK. Love from Arkansas

[@kjkap1456]

I can’t help but wonder if Lori is going to try and pin it all on Alex and say that she was a victim in all this. Also, I cannot stand the way the defense tries to make the experts look like idiots. Key word is TRIES… he’s unsuccessful in his attempts.

[@lyndaczika6327]

They have nothing else. It’s a futile attempt at confusing the jury. I’m sure they aren’t buying it.

[@caseyd9471]

Part of that was alluded to in the defense's opening statement, that they're there to ensure Lori receives her fair trial, so they're going to make sure the experts know their stuff. I WILL say though that Thomas' tone is entirely too condescending for the fractions of a point he sometimes scores on these witnesses though. That smug attitude only ever plays well if the listener is on your side, and I can't imagine he thinks many or any jurors are on his side. Maybe he's attempting to telegraph that they shouldn't believe the experts, but it's a risky thing if it ends up making you look douchey.

[@kweenz109]

Her hair was on JJs duct tape, on his dead body. She's hooped now, and she knows it. She doesn't care, but she knows she's just wasting everyone's time at this point lol

[@steph-ii9hi]

Melanie gibb knows more than she’s letting on

[@Moose74491]

Agree!! I wish there was some way to find out who has been offered or taken a plea deal

[@inadz.1111]

That's why she has immunity

[@Moose74491]

@@inadz.1111 I didn’t know she had immunity. Where is that information?

[@inadz.1111]

@@Moose74491 her and Zulema if I remember correctly

[@djstl]

Oh, wow! Both Melanie Gibb and Zulema were given immunity? That stinks! These are such heinous crimes that EVERY single person involved in the crimes or coverup should be severely punished.

[@lyndaczika6327]

What’s sickening is that Lori is sitting and listening to all this talk about how investigators worked to get location information with cell phone tracking, etc…and she already knows exactly what happened and where both of her own children died! And she sits there laughing and smiling at times. She is a monster.

[@MD77SA]

Thank you for this upload!

[@lovelysphynx7396]

Defense attorney sounds like a fool LOL. He missed the most important questions on cross and I’m not a lawyer

[@inadz.1111]

Exactlly 😂

[@shootforthemoon8279]

Just wondering about possible timelines. If JJ was still alive but maybe Alex would have given him a mild sedative when witnesses say him 'asleep' back to Lori's, would that have been found in autopsy. Also, with Lori's room locked during the night, would Alex had returned once guest were asleep for Lori and him to murder and prepare JJ for burial and take him back to his place before guests got up? Maybe the guest heard something during the night and this entered into his so called nightmare?

[@djstl]

That seemed really strange that Lori has overnight guests when JJ goes missing. I think you're right. This was meant to be Lori's alibi. What that highlights to me, is how premeditated JJ's murder was. The more we learn, the worse it all gets. 😢

[@robbiemarcum8878]

I wondered if David did have the nightmare because of the evil things going on too. He seems to be more sensitive to things. Some people are more sensitive.

[@tammy5926]

​@@robbiemarcum8878 He's probably feeling lucky to be alive. He definitely knew these people were nuts.

[@steph-ii9hi]

Hi from the uk I ve been following this trial from day one and back when the children were missing Nate your amazing thank you so much for the way you have covered this appalling case I can’t wait to see Lori and chad be sentenced for the rest of their lives r.i.p tylee,jj Charles Tammy ❤️

[@Lucywonderhunt]

Watching from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 . I agree with you 2012steph. Followed from the start . Hoped they would be found 😢 Just heartbreaking what these nut jobs did to these precious kids

[@steph-ii9hi]

@@Lucywonderhunt i really thought for those two few months that they were alive and safe i just thought she was a protective mum but its so sad isnt it.

[@Lucywonderhunt]

@@steph-ii9hi beyond what anyone could have thought . I wanted these kids to be somewhere safe. Listening to her sister and her son was very upsetting… she lied to everyone. Evil woman I think , not insane .

[@brucecheever7136]

Sounds like the defense lawyers received their law degrees in one year

[@AuntCathyPooh]

Maybe they were able to order them from the back of a magazine, right next to the offers for crate engines and Sea Monkeys 😂

[@servantwarrior880]

Thomas should have spent some time taking classes on how not to be a jerk.

[@Hartleymolly]

Ahhh, I continue to stay up late to watch listen to this!!! 😱 Should of been in bed 2 hours ago 😂

[@inadz.1111]

Ask Ein for a letter to excuse you if you are late 😂😂

[@joannepollak5843]

Mr. Thomas really overuses his “voir dire of the witness” ability. Any of the prosecution witnesses’ knowledge is clearly waaay above his head, and he only proves it with his pathetic questions. Add his disrespectful tone in questioning them and it is painful to listen to him. I applaud every state witness so far for their restraint from laughing at him. He needs to understand his role in being a state appointed defense attorney for Lori. Attacking the credentials or science used is not effective for this case. The evidence, for all to see, is overwhelming.

[@booswanger3801]

My favorite is when he says “ it’s confusing”, like the DNA specialist is confused. No dude, you’re confused

[@joannepollak5843]

Unbelievably Thomas is stopping the proceedings to check on what Walmart the receipt for a cellphone is from. Dead kids buried in Chad’s backyard, Alex’s hand all over this, and Thomas objects to a receipt. Grasping at straws is a supreme understatement. Omggg

[@poponachtschnecke]

I think he's just doing his job. If he doesn't do it, he's leaving holes open for appeal.

[@caseyd9471]

@@poponachtschnecke that's exactly what he's doing when he voir dires, essentially laying a more solid foundation for the exhibit, and it is his job as a defense attorney.

[@nataliecassidy4298]

Miss Mayhem, Jennifer Crawford, just to let you know you are not the only ones that are up late waiting for this to watch. I am from AKRON, OHIO. 😊

[@dianewilliams9729]

I am so torn between watching this trial and “Better Call Saul.” I try to watch both each/day night but it is becoming a full time job…poor me.

[@robbiemarcum8878]

I'm at least in the same time zone. You are really going to bed late.

[@user-jy3zl2vp4b]

Columbus, too!

[@veronicamcatee1]

If I didn’t know where my kids were for even 5 mins when J J age I’d be a basket case. She continually lied about their whereabouts 😡 equally culpable therefore guilty

[@uclaperiodontist]

Grateful for ppl like DNA expert and FBI’s Mr Wright professionalism. Their important work will bring justice for those sweet children and Charles.

[@Angelacopes]

Not a mother, she didnt protect anything but herself

[@wwondertwin]

That defence attorney has absolutely zero clue about genomics and science in general. The witness should have pointed out that we also share about 96% of our genome with chimps. There's a reason why we don't look at that 99% of DNA when identifying someone by genetic information. The part that makes the critical difference between people is basically the amount of a couple of sentences of an entire book, not even a couple of pages, to use the book analogue the attorney chose to use. That's because the important information isn't spread equally throughout the genome but found in clusters.

[@potr6461]

98.6

[@user-jy3zl2vp4b]

And we share like 92% of the same DNA with pigs. He is an idiot!

[@nikkinicole8371]

Sounds like Alex took Tylee to Chad's property the day after yellowstone. Based off of Chad's text to Tammy, Chad shot and buried a raccoon and burned branches. It appears to me that Chad likely killed, dismembered, burned and buried Tylee. Alex was not at Chad's property long enough that day to do all of that.

[@crimetimewithjess5366]

Yes! I very much believe chad murdered tylee. What he told zulema about her being Lori's daughter in a past life and she was r*ped dismembered and burned.. and then to find out that there were sharp object marks all around tylees pelvic area.. it makes me sick. I think chad did more than murder her. I think he tortured and r*ped her.

[@nikkinicole8371]

@Crime Time with Jess Chad was definitely a master manipulator in this and I'm sure he was hands-on in the murders of all 3 of them.

[@crimetimewithjess5366]

@@nikkinicole8371 I think so too. He was the puppet master

[@annehummingbird]

Thanks for doing what you do!❤

[@alison2649]

Damn BOTH lawyers have to go over her education credentials? So lame,lol What a waste of time. Her education was already discussed with the first lawyers questioning. We believe her. She’s not lying,lol No need to go over it all over again. Stupid. We ain’t here for that.😑😑😑

[@shootforthemoon8279]

Also, when digging the Pet Cemetery, they found Tylee and dogs bones, any sign of the so called racoon that should have been place the long after the dog bones on Sept 9th (per Chad).....

[@djstl]

The defense questioned the FBI team leader (I think that was his title) if it's possible a raccoon was buried in the property and his response was that yes it's possible. Once they located the children's remains, they stopped digging. I thought the defense questioning was weird. I half expected law enforcement to ask if the should be looking for more bodies on the property.

[@poppyfield1619]

I think the raccoon was a lie. He had to justify the fact that someone might hear a gunshot and the fact that he was using the fire pit (burning tree limbs) was a perfect excuse in his lying text to Tammy.

[@HapticFrequencies]

5:36 Keely Coleman DNA Analyst from Virgina 1:01:38 Rick Wright FBI Analyst-Cellular Data

[@veronicamcatee1]

Thanks I couldn’t bear the defence lawyer so could skip forward, thanks to you

[@lisaduffy2100]

Thanks 😊

[@mightywon-vf3pb]

nd He killed his Wife AFTER this in October on the 18-19th early morning CHAD IS cooked too ! Good work investigators and Contractual Employees ( we are the best kind ) !!! I am blown away at the depth the Prosecutors went they’ve done an absolutely amazing job thus far! God bless all of you who, were dedicated and exposed to such horrendous acts. May God continue to guide and strengthen you , ALWAYS. 💗 May you ALWAYS defend righteousness and be the voices for those that have suffered , and some as we see here , passed . To all of you , I thank you !

[@samanthalawless1408]

Thank You NATE EATON #EAST IDAHO NEWS 📰and FAMILY.

[@shiningstar2903]

so is the defence trying to undermine the science of DNA testing? what is he doing? whatever it is, its a losing battle. she's guilty.

[@nonenone9677]

Yes! It's clear he's trying to destroy the DNA evidence, but he's too dumb to understand DNA at all.

[@wwondertwin]

That's what he's trying to do, yes. Utterly clueless man.

[@carriemaurer4363]

Mr. Thomas painfully reminds us they have no defense whatsoever.

[@fague3390]

JJ's soul and spirit are at peace now. The world knows that Mom and Uncle murdered him.

[@sheilasmith7779]

Unlike Casey Anthony, Lori does not have a Jose Biaz public defender. Mr. Thomas's questioning in cross is very substandard. Since there is no chance of clearing her of the charges, he should not have cross examined the forensic witnesses. His defense will be (or should be) that her involvement in these deaths is due to her being under the influence of Chad Daybell. The defense would be to present the "wonderful," mother before meeting Chad, and the duped or "manipulated," mom after meeting Chad. In cross of forensic experts Thomas is drawing additional jury attention to the details of these 3 deaths. Thomas, also needs schooling in how questions should be asked. Never, ever give a witness choice between 2 options to respond to. Police interviewers make this same mistake. Example: Did you see xyz, or do you remember? Guess what the answer will be.

[@poponachtschnecke]

Thank you! I've been thinking something similar, and it's frustrating to only be seeing comments critical of Thomas's character, when obviously someone has to do this job.

[@amandaduerk5866]

Ohhh myyyyu gawwwwwwd this cross exam. It’s unbearable

[@zoeycarper8629]

The way he keeps harping on about the FBI database requirements when it isn't even relevant 🙄🙄🙄

[@amandaduerk5866]

@@zoeycarper8629 it’s maddening!! He’s clearly not the sharpest tool in the drawer 🙄🙄

[@nataliecassidy4298]

I really appreciate NATE EATON with E IDAHO NEWS for everything that you are doing for us so that we can follow this case NATE you are working so hard at getting us this information. Thank you so much. ❤❤❤😊😊😊

[@debbielang822]

Hes excellent, I found him by accident. But he keeps us informed better than any other news cast

[@sallyostling]

What happened to Tylees phone? Has it ever been recovered?

[@djstl]

Good question. I thought there was testimony that Lori was responding to Colby from Tylee's phone. There's so much info to keep track of, and it's all terrible.

[@caseyd9471]

I don't know if the phone itself was recovered, but the witness days ago who had that powerpoint with maps of towers and locations, etc, talked about her phone's activity at times I believe.

[@peccantis]

Thanks brain, it really helps me when you throw an absolute shitfit whenever someone pronounces loci as "low-s(eye)" and not "low-k(eye)" or "low-key". Especially when I'm trying to pay attention to expert testimony. Especially when I've told you multiple times that "low-s(eye)" is jut one of the many, many ways English pronunciation conventions differ from what would be correct for pre-Ecclesiastical Latin. It's really cool of you to throw that shitfit in full every time the word "loci" is used in this testimony, which is multiple times a minute at best.

[@lizzieandlou5164]

Hi Nate. Lizzie from Sydney Australia. Can the prosecution raise the past assault of Joe Ryan by Alex to establish a pattern of him carrying out bad deeds for Lori?

[@poponachtschnecke]

I cant stand how Rick Wright keeps saying "Alex's Cox" it sounds like he's talking about Alex's uhh...possessions 🤦

[@user-jy3zl2vp4b]

I am not enjoying ANYTHING about the way he speaks! Ugh!

[@eblita3698]

Since the phones are here, there is no need for a device operatet under our skin to monitor our every movement. You carry the phone everywhere. And if you leave the phone in one single place too long, it indicates you are doing something criminal elsewhere

[@nataliecassidy4298]

NATE hope you are getting some good sleep you have been working so hard on this. ❤❤❤😊😊😊

[@danad.hinesphdrn1585]

A mother’s DNA on the duct tape that contributed to her son’s asphyxiation. 💔

[@nickolasrogers3703]

It doesn’t put her at the scene of the crime

[@Gigi-MN]

@@nickolasrogers3703 seriously? She is the mother, that will be enough because nobody buys your delusional thinking

[@LearningCurves123]

@@nickolasrogers3703 It puts her as a contributing factor in his death. She held or used the specific part of the duct tape used to asphyxiate him.

[@deeznuts7375]

@@nickolasrogers3703 In Idaho, you don’t have to be at the scene of the crime to be convicted of murder.

[@djstl]

I don't see how the jury finds her not guilty. It's so obvious that but for Lori, all of these people would be alive. She is one very manipulative piece of work. Hope she takes the stand!

[@Angelacopes]

I hope that lori knows that that is all anyone will think of her as a manipulative serial satanist murderer…

[@kathysnodderly7310]

Why are all of the men in this trial so soft spoken. Prosecution, defense and witnesses

[@JujuMama23]

They’re just speaking normally instead of aggressively

[@birdiebreeboutique]

I'm curious....does the Defense/Lori know about the discovery, prior to court??

[@CG-qo2os]

yes, they do

[@Hartleymolly]

I have a random question, have Lori and Chad communicated at all since Chad was arrested? Either by phone call, attorneys, or letters?

[@RachelXKnight666]

Only once. They’re not allowed to

[@victoriaallen1857]

They all kinda look so normal like our neighbors. Makes me wonder !

[@wildchild307]

wow this FBI agent's vocal fry is irritating AF

[@user-jy3zl2vp4b]

YES!!

[@LearningCurves123]

Wow, so her DNA was on the TAPE.

[@sharonmurphy8063]

This defence lawyer is really making a meal out of DNA.

[@tammy5926]

Lori not reporting her kids missing is going to be a huge problem. Among other things, she can't explain that away.

[@myviewmjs3632]

Wondering if the defense attorney is really as confused as he seems or is purposely trying to confuse the jury.

[@tammy5926]

Both.

[@lynnegackstetter2779]

Nate please put up photos of either the kids or Tammy so we don't have to look at the Itch with a B every day. Thanks!

[@yvonnebennett3688]

This defence guy Thomas is making himself look like a total try-hard in 101 genetics.

[@sumerfluffy]

I just catch couple hours here & there. The last 4 weeks basically I have been up all night. I listen to KJ in the Ray in the morning & afternoon. She reads Nate's tweets on live stream.

[@irenebradberry1016]

Listening intently from Arkansas

[@lmfao7558]

Data points would be easier visually

[@VickJenkins]

I actually think that even Lori's brother might have been off'd by someone so he wouldn't talk as well!!! This also needs to be investigated

[@wompppwompwomppp]

People have been saying that from day one when they went missing and people started realizing how many people were killed or died mysteriously. Too bad they can't exhume him

[@VickJenkins]

@@wompppwompwomppp why can't they? Was he cremated?

[@jillking4054]

The attorney for Lori is trying to twist her up and he’s failing bad lol

[@Angelacopes]

She will go down as the most terrible satanist manipulative serial killer…in my opinion melody should have gotten more jail time… you know the fact that they all got married to try to hide. I wonder if chad realizes that he would have been next. She said herself she didnt want to be alone… she just used people till the money ran out

[@nataliecassidy4298]

Chrissy Solorio absolutely she could be charged without actually doing anything but just knowing what was going on,and she knew that her kids were missing didn't report that, what kind of a person does that only someone that is evil. That is what I call her evil lady. Hopefully she will go to prison for the rest of her life no chance of parole and CHAD as well. This is so 😢sad.

[@lisajanene]

Man, Alex was SLOPPY.

[@BethStoss-zt4dm]

Is this Judge for real? Professionals refer to their notes! They have many cases.

[@caseyd9471]

First time watching a trial? This is how it's been as far back as I can remember--nothing to do with the judge.

[@tektako]

So you bury the body in broad daylight when ppl are at work and won’t suspect a thing.

[@user-jy3zl2vp4b]

I live in a large city and we had this sort of problem with criminals in the suburbs were everyone worked 9-5PM.....houses were being burglarized in daytime because no one was around. I work 2nd and 3rd shift so I like that (hopefully) I keep thieves at bay in my neighborhood. (PS. Alex DID do this during the day, and they DID get away with it, sadly!)

[@nataliecassidy4298]

Hartleymolly,I didn't get to start watching until about 2.55a.m.Easterntime, this fist part is almost 3 hrs.I am in Akron, OHIO. Probably have to watch part 2if there is one after I go to bed and get some sleep. 😮😮😮😅

[@Respect-hy9dn]

We'll be late night trial watchers. 😂

[@LearningCurves123]

This trial is really messing with my sleeping habits LOL Sleep in the day, stay up all night through the week watching/listening.

[@Respect-hy9dn]

@@LearningCurves123 Same here.

[@sherrydmyterko-tramp8654]

Can someone tell me why it’s so hard to find videos of this trial n it’s always a day behind? Thanks.

[@87prawblems]

Due to the restrictions placed on the media by the judge, there is no streaming of even the court provided audio allowed (he didn’t allow any cameras whatsoever) so…the reporters have to sit in the 8-9 hour trial, live tweet, report throughout the day, livestream a recap of the key information and then someone had to download the court audio, reformat and then upload to KZbin (which can take a very very long time) at this point, I’m grateful to even have any sound bites.

[@poppyfield1619]

No filming allowed in court for this trial. The Judge decided. You will not see any footage, sorry. We are all disappointed! The time difference, is why we hear the case, later.

[@sherrydmyterko-tramp8654]

Okay. I knew there were no cameras but didn’t realize it took a long time to get audio n put on KZbin. Thank you.

[@edgittens2170]

Mormons protecting Mormons. Trying to divert casuals away from the case. This cult spinoff was going on with the knowledge of several at the church and they didn't even speak up for the kids because it looked so bad.

[@tammy5926]

​@@edgittens2170 Nothing you said has any merit.

[@dianewilliams9729]

I am surprised that so many highly educated people start out their sentences with so. Must be something common to witnesses in trials though. Would like to have a dollar for each one I have heard during this trial.

[@poppyfield1619]

Haha 'So' starts almost every sentence in the UK as well! For some weird reason it has become the norm.

[@Cocoandindy]

& in Australia it's "Look"! Drives me crazy.

[@donna30]

I wish they would have done this precisely with Nicole Kessinger's phone in the Chris Watts's case.

[@mightywon-vf3pb]

💕🙏💗🙏💗🙏💗🙏💗🙏💗 God bless all of you who, were dedicated and exposed to such horrendous acts. I cannot begin to imagine. May God continue to guide and strengthen you , ALWAYS. 💗 May you ALWAYS defend righteousness and be the voices for those that have suffered , and some as we see here , passed . To all of you , I thank you ! Respect Dignity Grace and Love 💕🙏💕🙏💕🙏💕🙏💕🙏💕

[@LoveMeLikeMusic7]

Te sound of his voice is nauseous

[@sheilasmith7779]

Bro, take my kids on a nice vacation before they are murdered. Thanks, bro.

[@mindynewell319]

Every time Thomas asks to voir dire I want to throw up. I’m sure it could be a normal legal practice but I feel like his intent is to have the chance to be condescending as opposed to any actual legal reason.

[@potr6461]

the agent who testified second from the beginning is excruciating to listen to

[@user-jy3zl2vp4b]

OMG yes!! I am still trying to decide if his testimony is REALLY worth listening to or if I can skip it! God, how can someone really speak like this?!?!?

[@mightywon-vf3pb]

Good to KNOW Investigators can actually obtain TRACK PHONE “ and what some reference as “ throw away phones’ “ intractable” This pleases me!

[@annedavis3340]

2:13:31 spaghetti time: if this guy had put his initials on the receipt, we all know he'd be asking how does he know this isn't one of the OTHER receipts he had put his initials on. 🤣

[@megancrouch8328]

Nate,. Have the children's bodies been released so they can have a proper burial.,?

[@RachelXKnight666]

They can’t be until both trials are over