Listen to Apple Rabbits EP on VPI Prime Turntable

[@futrhse]

that's the best sounding hot water system I've ever heard copper soldering with water pump at its sonic best

[@TheNadasvada]

When your utility room is better equiped as listening room than my main (living)room >:

[@jeffbellin8224]

There is depth and richness to the sound. To be fair, I could hear some vinyl background noise in the right channel in the lead-in groove and under the first part of the song. But if that's the only thing you're listening to and if that's going to cause you to dislike this cut, then you're not listening for the music.

[@lorenzonencioni4135]

What Music on Vinyl has been able to master with this title is nothing short of astonishing. Truly an audiophile, reference level record for a late '90 pop rock band

[@mozartfx1]

I've been on a Michael Fremer Analog Planet video binge. Really enjoying it! I hope I never find out his politics. I don't care. Keep up the great work Mr. Fremer!

[@alb.1911]

Thanks Michael, I really enjoy the second song... It's always a pleasure discover new music in this way.

[@Jpeezy65]

Apple Rabbits has a new fan, thanks to this you tube video. probably would never have come across this group otherwise. Mr. Fremer this sounds amazing.

[@cjspease]

I'm 7 years late to the game here, but you just sold a record for the Oberkampf Apple Rabbits ep... In addition, you gave me some hope for the convoluted antiskating system on my VPI Prime 21 Turntable.. I looked at the angle in which you had the Monofilament line attached to the rubber washer pivot system. My Prime 21 has a gimbal arm instead of the unipivot arm. I have spent days trying to get the correct antiskating bias. I'm pulling what's left of my hair out. I'm trying to use the Peter Ledermann method to set antiskating as I do not own a Wally Skater. I loved the video. Even though I found it late, I am thankful for you posting it.

[@marcbegine]

Great music, thx for the transparency in the beginning ( you didn’t hide the motor noise at the start, this is so phenomenal) thx again!

[@sidvicious3129]

You are correct, regarding the sound of this table, I'm on my second VPI, I went from a VPI HW-19 MK IV to my present VPI Classic and Audio Research PH-8 and the bass is indeed very powerful. If I didn't have the VPI Classic with the deal I got on it I would have bought a Prime. I will be looking at just getting the 3d Arm in the future as a upgrade. The Album is very good and I will be looking to purchase it. If you get the chance, check out a band called Chon, similar type of music. Also the new Radio Head- A Moon Shaped Pool is a great album. Thanks for your continued dedication to vinyl and showing others the way that this format, which has outlasted all of the others is still very much alive and well and doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg with your reviews of the Project and their lower end tables and the U-Turn table. Keep up the good work Michael, you are a great Ambassador for this format.

[@hotspur1974]

I’m totally addicted to this band! Thanks Michael👍👍

[@goldcds]

Only one word is needed for this - OUTSTANDING

[@socksumi]

There appears to be layers of detail but on KZbin I'm not sure how much gets through. I can hear what appears to be a various multidubs of the vocals overlaid with a huge range of electronic effects including some subtle but impressive bass notes. Lots of acoustic information to dissect and no doubt a good system evaluation tool. What I'm hearing on my modest Nad B&W DM4 system sounds pretty good for a youtube file but I'd need to hear it in the flesh to really be sure. Piped out of your massive speakers I'm confident I'd be blown away.

[@shiznicks74]

I'm so glad to have stumbled upon this video. I believe I've seen the name Michael Fremer before online in audio forums that I've perused, and I'm no expert, but I remember it being held in high esteem. I'll never be able to afford this type of audio gear, but I like reading about it, and I know I can afford this Apple Rabbits record. Totally dig the 2nd song. MAde the mistake of listening on my laptop speakers, and then I put on my pretty decent headphones.....thanks for the vid. Subscribed. :)

[@chrissyman77]

Sounds like a very good vinyl set up, don't need to spend anymore really, very interesting music, new to me.

[@Channel-cm7yc]

Enjoyed seeing and hearing this. 👍👍

[@TheThodi]

I love watching the VPI Prime play! :) thank you Mr. Fremer!

[@h2ocleanerandclearer880]

Thanks for sharing, sounds great! the last track pointed out my sub bass resonate frequency. My 3 year old manages to pull out acoustic dampening out of my sub woofer box through the ports. Thanks apple rabbits for the nice chilled out tracks and a great bass testing track from what i hear.

[@ptbfrch]

That sounds delicious! I'll never be able to afford even a VPI Prime table, but still love vinyl very much. The bass from the Prime is superb!

[@eurika7655]

Sounds great. I gritted my teeth for the first minutes past the horns.

[@beosliege]

Prime is my end goal for table upgrades. Thanks for sharing. I'm looking forward to the review on your web site!

[@robertsupercalifragilistic7404]

That table is where it deserves to be, in the basement. My prime signature is going this year. I’m kind of done with VPI. Hello Dr. Feickert.

[@carlfuggiasco7495]

1. Thank you for turning me on to this new band (too me) Apple Rabbits...I like! 2. Expensive system by my means on an nice clear acrylic stand in front of plumbing in your basement. So that is an acoustically sweet sound for you late at night when the other is asleep, or it really sounds cool down here? Inquiring minds want to know?

[@pip5528]

I remember the video with the RL pressing of Led Zeppelin II and how you talked about how vinyl can too have lots of bass. You of course brought that point back up in this video. If I remember correctly, 180g and 200g pressings tend to have more bass than standard vinyl. Nice to see a video with something like the Prime and just a VPI turntable in general. I totally want a Prime as part of my upgrade path. Eventually I'll even go for the Avenger Reference. :)

[@pip5528]

I've also noticed that nowadays the Prime is typically sold with no cartridge whatsoever unless you go to certain sites that will install a cartridge that you have selected for free. In the setup video done by Ron Brenay of New Record Day, Ron connected an Ortofon 2M Black to the Prime because it didn't come with a cartridge. I am also pretty excited for the Prime Signature and the Titan.

[@TheRudydog1]

Analog Planet: You're the man. I'm glad you don't pay attention to all the juvenile comments coming from the little boys.

[@stephendouglas1797]

Sounds amazing

[@richardriley4415]

I'm currently considering turntables in this range. Good timing.

[@pauldavies6037]

I'm glad to hear that I have a few same artist titles on cds and vinyl even the digtal mastered ones sound better on LPl

[@brucetaylor5917]

An LP that sounds better than what it was mastered from?? How could that be possible? All you can say is that it sounds different, which simply means that the LP is not faithful to the master.

[@guzmao9506]

Very beautiful. I liked this turntable

[@jamesmachado9366]

Cool video. Love the TT and a new fan of the Rabbits. Also, Shun Mook makes a damping unit for your water circulation pump. I'm going to review it. It lists for $5000. Should get a review sample soon.

[@SammeLagom]

I really like that nice clear Cymbal. Good music!

[@mcdeadcat]

Love the music and the needle/vinyl scratches white noise and pops from the right channel mostly, is that centripetal force on the needle from the groove?

[@Book-Mark]

Helikon is a great cartridge. Wonderful band.

[@gpuppy1234]

Love to get my hands on a vpi one day. For now i have a carbon debut III with acrylic platter and ortofon blue cartridge. I swear it sounds great but to hear music on a table like this must be amazing. Cool music btw!

[@edwardbarr1533]

My American friends speak highly of Audio Alchemy products,I can now seewhy super cymbal almost textural

[@stephendouglas1797]

Fascinating composition.I'm buying this turntable from Dedicated Audio. They know you well . Ty Stephen D Goodsell (classically trained at Indiana University voice performance New York City Opera ) Sounds like a group named Black Dog )

[@kilburnstaterecords]

Brilliant, Thanks Michael.

[@dambuster6387]

Moderately priced turntable I hear You say that depends on what you can afford here in the UK VPI turntables are insanely expensive . Promoting High end HI FI is one thing being able to afford it is another.

[@maincalandar7434]

'A moderately Priced Turntable' ...OK..the Prime Signature is my bucket list turntable, (keep the Helikon, I'll go with a Benz or Dynavector) with the 3D JMW arm..and I still would need to sell a Kidney. I'm 50 freakin' years old now, but the time I can afford something like this. I'll need hearing aids and someone else to play the records and turn on the gear for me..great LP love the sounds, kind of ENO-esque, I I never heard it before, till now, and am working on securing a copy. My problem is I have tons of great Lp's but don't own a table worthy of playing them on. got everything else though, jut not a TOTL table/arm . I loved hearing and watching the VPI Prime just the same. I'd have mine in a shrine next to my other gear, Mikey keeps his in the plumbing room...WOW..Mikeys Copper plumbing is worth more than some peoples whole kit..

[@andrewgregory1907]

I too was a little flabbergasted that 4000 is moderately priced, I thought I had gone all out when I got my NVA prototype turntable costing £2000. 20 years ago

[@BarakaPDub]

Fantastic! Picked up the EP through Bandcamp based on what you played from the first side. It being EP, there should be room to let the dynamic really play out. I hope it was pressed at MPO, Record Industry, or Optimal. It would be great if it was from Pallas but that might be a long shot. Regardless, it cleaned up quite well so it may not be from GZ or one of the smaller plants in Europe.

[@kilburnstaterecords]

Hello @BarakaPDub , this is Charlie from Kilburn State Records. The EP was pressed at Optimal.

[@BarakaPDub]

Thank you! Optimal is not a bad plant.

[@rezadwiarianto9511]

What a lovely table! VPI sure knows how to make a great sounding and looking table, vpi is surely my top choice if i want to upgrade my table anytime soon (currently using rega rp1). I'm also looking forward for your opinion on the scout jr, especially compared to the traveler. nice video Michael, vinyl rules!!!

[@ledze973]

The resolution its so great I can hear someone clapping and its out tune.

[@scottgood2469]

Sort of like the dream pop genre meets Radiohead

[@JonathanBlackhall]

To be fair, the Prime is $3999, not $3000, unless you're privy to an upcoming price drop. Regardless, it or the Prime Signature will be my next 'table as an upgrade from the Scout. Looking forward to your review of it.

[@franciscopelayo1648]

Why not go for a Michell Gyro Dec if you're going to spend that much $$$ ?

[@JonathanBlackhall]

I got my Prime a couple of weeks ago. It ROCKS with the SoundSmith Zephyr! A bunch of people including HW have been saying the VAS Nova Signature is an amazing cart for the price ($1500). Would probably be another great combo with the Prime. Michael, maybe the cart is worth a review on AP?

[@doowopper1951]

Jonathan Blackhall the prime signature with an Ortofon Cadenza Bronze makes superb music. I totally love mine.

[@TheZooman22]

I have never heard of this group before... I can always count on Michael to expand my horizons. Where is all the "noise" and "pops" that the digi-techs claim to be inherent with vinyl?

[@zd8202ap]

Super Cool Setup!!!

[@StephenFinkNRP]

My 300 dollar Teac turntable now has platter envy.

[@carpichu]

Hi Michael, I recently read an article of you where you talk about the PPA-1 phono preamp, and you also recommended to consider the Lejonklou Gaio, I wonder how these 2 preamps compare with the Graham Slee Era Gold MKV MM which price is in between those two preamps Thanks!!

[@elderinmoi1571]

The record is fantastic. The player seems to be a good deal. What cartridge is recommended when you want it to sound as close to this Lyra as possible ?

[@kylegriffin8838]

Hey Micheal, Just recently bought a pro-Ject debut carbon turntable and I listen to 3-4 records daily. I do buy records online from time to time, and however one record that I had recently purchased had a warp into it so then I started doing research on a record clamp (or even a weight) if you may. But I'm curious.. With a clamp or weight, won't that warp a record more when the pressure is taken off of it? I hate to see the stylus going up and down because it makes me think it's gonna go off track and I certainly wouldn't like that if there's a certain song I like listening to! I know this shouldn't be written to you on this video but it came to my mind and the only person to ask is you! Thanks, Kyle PS, Love your channel!

[@TheThodi]

it definitely won't bend it more! I'm also a pro-ject debut carbon owner and I'm using a clamp since the motor of our turntable isn't really made for a lot of weight. the reasons as to why you should use a clamp/weight is because it reduces the vibrations for an improved listening experience, it helps a lot with the warped records which improves your vinyls lifespan and it really does look very cool. :) the one I'm using is the JA michell record clamp because it "de-warps" in a very efficient way IMHO but anykind of clamp will do for you, just pick the one you would be happy to see on your turntable!

[@stephendouglas1797]

Detail in spades (wow Chiaro Oscura

[@sdjklsdjksdjklf]

Nice music. It's a damn shame that it was recorded digitally

[@sdjklsdjksdjklf]

***** I'm not a fan of this sound, it sounds almost artificial. Maybe it's just me. I feel the same about most digital 24/96, DSD. Hopefully MQA will be better

[@sdjklsdjksdjklf]

Tech Truth​ If you don't take proper care of your records, then yes. Uncompressed 192/24 sounds excellent by the way.

[@sdjklsdjksdjklf]

+Analog Planet Good to know I'm not the only one then. I see too many claiming digital is better then Vinyl and I still have yet to hear it.

[@sdjklsdjksdjklf]

+Analog Planet Fremer I have a question. How is it possible for a digital transfer pressed to lacquer to sound better then the original file? I just brought D'Angelo's Black Messiah on vinyl and it sounds significantly better then the HDTracks 24/96 FLAC

[@andreacosta74]

I also noticed this in many other cases. Try also comparing an original analog pressing played through a good you tube transfer ("quality" MP3) and the same song directly from the original Digital Mp3. Probably cause vinyl is an intrisecally "euphonic" medium (not strictly hi-fidelity medium compared to original master tapes and supr hi-res digital). It has the best transients and its proper defective "inability" for designing square waves smoothing them to sine ones, recall to me tube amps working...as comparing solid state guitar amps overdrives with class-A tube overdriven guitar amps

[@chupathingy5862]

I dig those square waves in the background. I dig a lot of straight chiptune stuff, which doesn't use a whole lot of "real" instruments, so it's extremely refreshing to hear it outside of that context. Thanks for the video!

[@sportsfreundberlin]

The more expensive the gear the better the sound, it's really that simple!

[@andrereed2898]

Smh. Amazing. I was thinking this guy here. Lol when the needle drops. I subscribe. Thx

[@John-if8sx]

So When is the Prime review going to print Mike?? I'll have mine in 4 weeks.

[@troydavis705]

How can you appreciate while listening to this on your computer?

[@1jtolvey]

GREAT VIDEO !! EVER TRY "BLUEMAGIC" (PASTE) METAL POLISH , PUT THE BLING BACK IN YOUR TURNTABLE ?

[@mozartfx1]

And the turntable runs off steam....which is amazing!

[@TheZooman22]

I am glad I am not the only one who noticed that. Hey we build a nation on steam power... why not a moderately priced sound system.

[@phantasm1004]

Mike...this is AWESOME!!! One question...how would one acquire a copy of this LP?

[@phantasm1004]

***** great! thanks mike! i'll check it out.

[@aanon2550]

That's a lot of rumble and surface noise. This is supposed to be a positive representation?

[@pauldavies6037]

a lot of cutter or rumble noises on this pressing would be interesting to here the original file compared to this disc

[@russellmusictv4403]

Sounds decent. That's the best name your friend's band could come up with though?

[@pauldavies6037]

the digital file or format compared on your digital playback stuff compared to this your vinyl disc but worry I have always been analog and vinyl supporter first for sheer sound quality

[@ledze973]

Wow listening through my cheap earphones and cheap desktop it sound fantastic, and I spend like .04 k for everything.

[@thejebdude3241]

What do you think about the project debut carbon? I'm thinking of getting it as an upgrade.

[@thejebdude3241]

+Analog Planet audio technica LP 60, it works well, but I've heard good and bad things about it.

[@scrumpymanjack]

This sounds like a $14.99 set up (the price of my computer speakers)!

[@jimlayhey1965]

whats your opinion on the pro-ject rpm10 carbon

[@philhunter9134]

Moderately priced my asshole. I'd describe it as expensive, just not GROSSLY expensive.

[@jaylawrence1784]

Is this set up in your basement boiler room? show the amp and speakers.

[@scottyj737]

depressing that the majority of us can not afford such devices. lol

[@tylero8595]

Why is that in a mechanical room????

[@kevemaher]

I can hear a rumble on the lead-in. Can't tell if this is the LP or the table. Are VPI tables highly regarded for their low rumble? I wonder if this rumble goes away when the music starts. This problem has always bothered me. With the unmodulated tracks on the Cardas test LP, my vintage Micro Seiki DD-40 with MA-505 arm seems to have two levels, below 200Hz, the background is about 55 dB down from reference level, above that, it is 20 dB quieter. Is this good, average, or bad?

[@franciscoop1063]

Are there supposed to be maracas in the right channel in the first 25 seconds?....No?....THAT'S why I prefer high resolution digital replay!

[@randolphtucker1388]

The beautiful TT is disrespected by your presentation. Make a cheap background out of anything!.

[@cormackeenan8175]

I’d rather not, as I will never be able to afford it and all the additional paraphernalia that goes with it, Wilson audio, Darzeel amplification, sixteen thousand dollars cable what ever there called.

[@dambuster6387]

To you moderately priced to me very expensive.

[@jokonst]

...anyone else thinks that is TOO expensive ??? Can we have this sound quality for a bit less please ?

[@vicg5323]

Nice setup, but for $4000.00 dollars you can buy a Yamaha AS-2100 amp, CDS2100 SACD Player, and have better results in digital playback with zero noise floor. To boot you can move or repeat tracks to your hearts content.

[@vicg5323]

Analog Planet, my comment was clean and appropriate considering that Bradford Thornton stated it was digitally recorded. As such it is a mute point to buy an analog media if the source was digital. The analog playback version would be degraded compared to it's digital source. Don't be a SMUCK, if don't understand what I am saying!!!

[@vicg5323]

Yeah you too! Reputation by proxy is a fools play, STUPID! Who cares about your friends achievements. Work on yours, You sad case.

[@vicg5323]

I'm taking the other glove off. Don't make me do it? I'll make you eat your words you snot nose gas bag. I'll expose you for what your are not; a subject matter expert. More like BULLSHITTER !!!

[@jm_1214]

digital recording

[@chrisguygeezer]

pointless if it is a digital recording, which it is so obviously is. btw, what's with the copper pipes?

[@freepress8451]

Not too keen on the accessories, brass pipes and chrome yuck

[@george73219]

02:01

[@pauldavies6037]

are you up to the challege?

[@maddoxinc1642]

Sometimes, people have more money than common sense. It's acceptable to want to spend more money on a RECORD player that looks fancy and overbuilt. It's another to assume that because you spent $5k on a cartridge with a fancy name, that it will sound better than my $90 Audio Technica cartridge. Let's keep one fact in mind here, THIS. IS. ANALOGUE. RECORDING... Again, its analogue. There is only so much you can do before you have to admit that you're making it up in your head to try and justify the insane cost.

[@LD-nl7kz]

MaddoxInc and sometimes people have tin ears 👂

[@TD402dd]

Records have always been sourced from electronic recording, with the first being tape (magnetic dust stuck to plastic). The newest method is to record the actual performance through digital recovery methods using 8, 12, 18, 24 input mics. I mention this because some joker thinks they use CDs. Are you really this dumb? The problem is transferring the final product to the consumers. Either use an archaic CD or cut the sound to a record. At least try to be honest with your argument.

[@johnadams9044]

Real nice table but the music is unacceptable at many levels.

[@fredrikmontelius5215]

+John Adams Yes but so is Harmonielehre by John Adams, for example. We can never agree on which music "should" be played. Peace out!

[@speedyrob6651]

Ummm anyone else got a $100 audio technica lp60 USB?

[@ramstopgun]

I don’t like how it sounds

[@joeclements6744]

Only $6,000.00 for this set up? Let me get three. You are not speaking to the average person. Sorry you had to step down a few levels for us and could not use your $200,000.00 unit.

[@dambuster6387]

He is promoting hifi good on him but to some person that is a lot of cash to spend to some who have a lot of cash its a drop in the ocean but may be he thinks that the average guy on the street is just like him and Would walk in to shop and spend that kind of cash.

[@kjelleriksson5122]

Good equipment and deadly boring "music"! When will the numb people find Frank Zappa?

[@turn1210]

You're preaching to the choir friend.

[@edwardrrooney1994]

Kjell Eriksson Frank Zappa was a phony Who competes at being a freak? Ever hear what he said about the Beatles ? Nothing but a giant EGO ; that guy.. But o. c. , he was a great musician

[@berryvo]

Ugh. The surface noise! I'll gladly stick to my perfectly mastered compact discs!

[@berryvo]

I'm not making stuff up. Why don't you make a video where you play Mahler's first symphony? You'lll hear surface noise throughout the first section, which is very quiet. When a cd is properly mastered then an lp is no competition. But I agree on the fact that vinyl is fysically more attractive than cds.

[@berryvo]

In my humble opinion neither vinyl nor CDs are perfect. And I believe that sound quality is literally between the ears. Vinyl makes you happy. CDs make me happy. What bothers me is that many people, including yourself, state that CDs don't sound good like it is a fact. And when someone shows "proof", like measurements or so, then you say: Well, I know what I hear. And that's fine. One may like vinyl better than CDs. That's ok. But stating that vinyl IS better is not a forgone conclusion (if that's proper English). Thanks for taking time to reply by the way.

[@berryvo]

Ah, I agree totally on your last remark. People don't just sit and enjoy music anymore. And I can see the attractiveness of vinyl here. The ritual of setting up the turntable and putting the LP on it and so on. I experiance that a little bit when i'm listening through my headphones (Sennheiser HD800's). I keep them in a case, so when I want to enjoy some music then it is a kind of ritual to get the headphones out and plug them in. Listening to classical music also requires careful listening and dedication from the listener. I'll email you in a moment. Thanks!

[@berryvo]

I know it's not only that. But I can imagine it being a part of the listening experience. When I'm working at home and I want some music on the background (which isn't always a good idea) then I'll gladly play mp3 of flacs from my computer. But when I really want to enjoy the music then I'll sit down, get a cold Heineken, put on my headphones and enjoy some music. No distractions.

[@ptholb1336]

Sounds like shit, my phone speakers sound exactly like it