Listen to the bulkheads on this Lagoon Catamaran...

[@NorthPoleTime]

Very diplomatic of you James. I listened to the video twice and never heard you say “This boat is a piece of shit”. Well done!

[@formhubfar]

Where have you been the last 12 months?, watch Parlay Revival and dozens of other channels about the Lagoon bulkhead issue.., one good thing that Colin from Parlay has done is to pressure Lagoon to doing a repair.

[@happykarmaman34]

He's probably living life to it's fullest rather than watching lots of youtube videos like us!

[@formhubfar]

@@happykarmaman34 I would imagine the entire boating community have been talking about it.

[@jasonlockhart4647]

He needs to get ahold of Lagoon they finally decided to fix some of the crack bulkheads

[@benc8102]

He is just jumping on the wagon trying to get viewers with whatever might work and that’s why his videos barely ever offer any value or good advice. Parlay revival offers all the expertise he lacks and they also know how to produce quality videos. I feel like this guy lost his way since he almost sunk his ex for lack of proper knowledge and responsibility. That’s too bad because he used to seem genuine and humble…

[@buddyboi1411]

Dang going for the jugular eh? He ain’t all that bad.. lighten up pal

[@robinacjohnston]

Maybe check the bulkheads as per Parlay Revival? Not a 450, but worth checking any Lagoon that gives cause for concern....

[@rfiorini]

I was just about to say the same thing. That noise is awful!

[@smc419]

I agree. Maybe contact Lagoon as they are offering free inspections for the 450's maybe they'll extend it to the 500.

[@Vikingo565656]

I certainly beleive Tha th design should be improved by Lagoon

[@RiverWoods111]

Exactly what I was thinking, that doesn't sound good at all, and if the 450s are having design weaknesses then the 500's probably are too.

[@zzzxxzzz3248]

Sell !

[@catamaranstingray5464]

This is what happens when manufacturing companies become extremely efficient! Good Job Lagoon! Keep up the efficiency!

[@edrosenberger6947]

I once thought I wanted a Lagoon.....no way could I live in this mess of a boat! I've heard that other Lagoon's have noise problems but this is the first time I've listened to one....scary. Thank you for the heads up!

[@Backnine907]

We chartered a Lagoon 500 in the fall of 2019 to cruise around the Caribbean islands for two weeks. It was a nightmare. Same problem. Sounded like the boat was coming apart. Doors wouldn't open and the hull slap was annoying as hell. It was good in a way that we experienced it because we ended up buying a Leopard 50 and we love it.

[@joeaguirre3304]

I am surprised James, that while videoing through out your tour of this Lagoon and opening all the doors on the heads you didn’t find anyone shitting, because that is exactly what I would be doing knowing what I know now about Lagoon bulkheads! Unbelievable!!

[@AdamPearce]

Where there's sound, there's movement. (correction: I watched again - there's movement), I'd be worried and tearing apart the boat looking for the source. Especially knowing Lagoon's bulkhead build issues.

[@dictator9849]

For crying out loud, I commented on this last video. I said the guy made a mistake buying the 500. I gave Parlay as an example and people came back jumping me saying it was the 450 not the 500. I replied “Do you really think the bulkhead is designed that much differently for a 5 foot longer boat?” Hell no!!! It’s the exact same design I would bet $1000.00 bucks on it! His bulkhead is warped or cracked just like the rest. There needs to be a class action against lagoon before someone dies. This should teach people about surveyors as well. Not one caught this!

[@woolyimage]

Surveyors never look at anything that is not readily accessible without taking panels etc off. Unless you get permission from the owner and pay the surveyor extra.

[@313barrygmail]

Right

[@dictator9849]

@@woolyimage Common, get real, did you not hear that boat? Surveyors take a shakedown cruise when they inspect a boat. You saying the surveyor had no obligation or duty here to tell the potential buyer “this is not right, and most likely indicates what could be a life threatening defect in the boat?”

[@woolyimage]

@@dictator9849 Surveyors come in all shapes and sizes and they don't all do 'proper' or sometimes any sea trials. If e.g. its a calm day or little wind they don't find out much and reading there Terms and conditions is an eye opener ! Caveat emptor !!!

[@voltaries]

Sweet mercy, James. Take it from an old salt who's been on a few boats. That 500 is screaming that she's tired. I was on a friends monohull that was making noise like that. He'd hit a reef and the keel was hogged. The weirdest thing about the damage I noticed on his boat other than the bulkheads starting to separate and buckle... one, there was a good sized chunk out of his forward keel (the ballast stopped it from leaking), and two, there were spiderweb cracks around the fiberglass cockpit coaming and couch roof. I was told later that impact force will travel all the way through a hull to the furthest point where it will show up as a stress rupture, specially in fiberglass hulls, but in steel and wood hulls as well. Oh, my friends' boat broke up and sank a few months later. I know you've been through a similar experience with your other boat, Zingaro. I hope you're not on that Lagoon 500 anymore. The owner should know that boat is in serious trouble. Calm seas and fair winds, mon ami.

[@michaelvonrautenberg2388]

Cracked Bulkhead....Sailing Parlay Revival

[@barrypierce9100]

I thank its a factory problem...

[@JimJNebraska]

Exactly! Built cheap AF.

[@kevonmason6140]

Parlay Revival is super strong now. Colin and James have done an awesome job. I can say this as i have built my own Trimaran from scratch.

[@chraven69]

Would not suprise me if there is a bulkhead problem, but all boats flex underway. But that sounds extremely excessive.

[@lowryshank94]

@@kevonmason6140 No it's not. It's a cored balsa hull that was left submerged for months after being pummeled in a Cat 5 storm. The hulls by this time are nothing but two laminate skins with rotting balsa composting in between. That boats worth very little and one would have to be insane to attempt any blue water passages.

[@bhlom4135]

As you mentioned , James you can definitely see flexing when you put the camera on the floor. You can see it by watching the gap between the door and the floor surface.

[@peterbiltpilot516]

I wouldn't be able to sleep in that boat. The noise and fear of it breaking and sinking would keep me up

[@kevonmason6140]

Sleep with youe life Jacket on lol

[@dadedubbledee]

Definitely check parlay revival sounds as if the 500's are suffering the same issue as the 450. It's definitely got issues that are only going to get worse, as one bulkhead fails it starts a domino effect as the stresses get magnified on the the surrounding bulkheads.

[@derekwagner9900]

I feel for the new owners. Did the pre-sale inspection not include any examination of the bulkheads or the sea trial not cause any creaking? I'm guessing your viewership will be interested in hearing what happens in the future to fix this!

[@zzzsydneyhom1379]

A few years ago I did a delivery of a Bavaria 42 monohull and she sounded just like the Lagoon. Cabin doors wouldn't close while underway and galley cabinet doors had similar issues. On this particular yacht the bulkheads fit in a channel and weren't glassed in, to allow for different interior layouts. Many lightweight production yachts that I have been on flex like mad and appear not to be made to take the rigours of ocean sailing, without protesting. Our trip on the Bavaria was 9 days and we had about 24 hrs of big seas and wind and she actually sailed quite well but OMG the noise!!!

[@drewjones1356]

Hi ZzZ, I own a 2002 ex charter production mono that makes similar noises and have sailed it from the Caribbean to Australia where we keep it. Creaks in any sort of waves and one of the cabin doors won’t close on some points of sail when pressed. We look for very protected anchorages for now. One day when I have the time I will set about fixing it but having crossed oceans in her and gone through some bad weather, don’t feel unsafe.

[@scottsmith8381]

That is unsurprising, there have been, what, 2 or 3 Bavaria's to suffer catastrophic keel failures.

[@marccarlin1]

Great video. Thanks for the info, very educational. Boat sounds like my knees after a lifetime (50 + years) pro skiing. Hahaha Love you taking the time to show on blueprints where you are on the boat tour. Excellent!!

[@briandonnelly8464]

yes lagoon have bulk head issuies but look up what you are surpose to know. bulk head issuies. as you know ? charter yaucht this is how old . noise was scary . and is like that.

[@bt6joso]

I had a 40 year old sailing boat made in Finland and it was still strong as a tank. That lagoon sounds like it's gona break in to million pieces and it' still brand new.

[@bradmottishaw467]

Makes you wonder how long Lagoon can stay in business with all of the quality questions lately. Robin Johnston is right about checking the bulkheads. Makes me think that you are smart for going Monohull.

[@appick01]

Yeah the grey goo holding in bulkheads instead of a proper fiberglass tabbing is a pretty horrendous choice. It's the same reason I don't care for other brands that follow the same engineering choices. But man are the beautiful and so comfy!

[@easternsun167]

This is not an issue with other manufacturer s.

[@cup_and_cone]

The Lagoon 450 and 500 have different bulkhead designs and according to Lagoon and are not effected by same problems. I guess the only way to tell will be ripping off the panels and doing a full inspection...

[@life.sunsets.sunrises]

Great work , That's a great way to highlight the bulkhead problems , I agree and i would suspect every lagoon built unless i saw evidence it did not have the same problem !! thanks to Colin and et all at parlay in the first case

[@CheekyMonkey1776]

Freaking scary. The bulkhead problems Lagoon is having is going to bankrupt the Company. Either due to lawsuits or lost business. Sooner or later there is going to be a catastrophic failure at sea and a Lagoon will break up. I pray there is no loss of life.

[@stevew4260]

Colin and Jamie really highlighted the issues with bilkheads and I agree, this could well knock Lagoon out of the game!

[@jiminauburn5073]

@@stevew4260 If I were in the market for a cat, I would definitely avoid Lagoon. Nice looking boats, but this would scare the crap out of me.

[@DFMurray]

It's Lagoon's own fault really. They tried to push the limits on how little structural elements they can get away with...you have to ask yourself "If I were to build a cat would you use a single sheet of ply with a little glass on either side for major structural elements that have both vertical tension and horizontal sheer loads?" Hell no. At minimum I'd have a box beam construction with generous glassed in tabs.

[@shaggyduder]

What's crazy is what they cost, you pay all that freaking doe for it, and that's what you get!

[@capnordest]

Take it out of the water, fit wheels to it and drag it to campsite. Would make a wonderful mobile home!

[@cup_and_cone]

Do you know how wide a Lagoon 500 is? You're not moving it very far...

[@capnordest]

@@cup_and_cone It wouldn't have to be far, just out the water where it clearly doesn't belong!

[@debs-14]

🤣🤣

[@joehimes9898]

Built in independent suspension

[@ismzaxxon]

All Cats do this. I used to supply parts to make warranty repairs. The newer cats are giving way to seed over strength. I have seen some the just break away from pontoons.

[@deniseterrell2515]

Definitely watch Colin on his channel Parlay Revival.. he shows how you to easily check the bulk heads. He had to fix all his bulk heads because his boat flexed and he checked and had cracked bulk heads. Since then many Lagoon owners have checked their bulk heads and found out they were cracked.

[@operator0]

This is a different model. Perhaps the method is the same, but it might not be.

[@chriszanf]

I'd love to come on there with my sound recording gear and set up contact mics around the boat. People would love all that as a sample pack for making music and film sound effects!

[@sucapizda]

Your bulkheads are MASHED!!!!!! Lagoon now offering some kind of support for the repair. Get in touch with them asap, and don't sail that thing anymore.

[@RachaelSA]

Not if it was used as a charter, which he said this one was.

[@timothy_pitcock]

SAILING PARLEY.... Those guys have really saved the day for guys who own the 500 if you pull over now and start rebuilding...

[@thejameslealartco.7625]

I thought they have a 450 but honestly don’t enough about cats to know difference. And I doubt lagoon has different bulkhead designs for different models…

[@paulkopp3634]

I really liked the Lagoon 52s and watched the Great Circle channel with interest, but having heard the awful creaking and groaning as it was cresting and surfing down some (admittedly big ) rollers in one episode I wonder if that’s why they sold it so quickly in favour of an Outremer . Although they never mentioned the Lagoon being noisy in a seaway they did mention how quiet the Outremer was . It does make you wonder if there are inherent design flaws or construction/quality control issues .

[@gregbuck1328]

Hard stand her quick

[@Cameron-ur2tk]

I totally forgot you snapped a boat in half hahaha. Lagoon owners around the world are shitting there pants and getting the short end of the stick; Too bad because there layouts are pretty chill. It'll be interesting to see how lagoon addresses new design changes in the near future.

[@kevio6868]

bankruptcy soon

[@danielc9312]

@@kevio6868 Yeah, once word keeps getting around about their boats having major flaws in engineering I doubt people are going to line up for the "Yeah, we screwed you over last generation but this one is probably better," models.

[@paj0241]

Yeah James Parley fixing a couple of boats and nowLagoon has got involved to help the owners

[@Khun_Tim]

That's terrible. I'd have my gear packed in a dry-bag for that passage...

[@TDubya811]

Recent lagoons look good and have a lot of space and relatively cheap. But the bulkhead issue makes across several models is really gotta make you thing twice before buying one.

[@intsccents]

I remember as a junior high school student a friends father building a trimaran and him saying that the hulls x three would cause problems down the line due to the overall structure ! and that was in the mid seventies ! my family had catamarans similar to the hobies and prindles of the day which were day sailors and fun and fast but were not going to be used for much more than that.. i think that the overall structure of a mono hull sailboat is better for overall integrity and all these years later its still born out that way....L.A Rob

[@LRCXed]

Hearing all that noise and seeing the movement underway first hand was a good idea James! Well done sir! It puts the Lagoon problem up on a level that all owners of these boats needs to be aware of. If I remember correctly, aren't you already planning on stopping off and visiting Colin during this sail?

[@HandyMan657]

That boat is screwed, time to get on the hard and start tearing it apart, pretty sure we all know what's up. Parlay just got a few new subscribers.

[@palmtree5544]

As others have said," Parlay Revival" has spent months with the bulkhead problems on Lagoon. You need to remove the trim around the bulkheads to see if they are broken or separated. Lagoon is aware of the situation and is making limited settlements with the Lagoon 45 owners.

[@bill8by5]

There are certain caveats from Lagoon's side and I believe this boat was a chartered boat which makes it ineligible - either partially or entirely. Have to check Parlay's channel when Colin got a final answer from Lagoon to be certain.

[@ryancheff]

I had a L400 bought brand new and it creaked like crazy. Sailed it up and down the East Coast and Caribbean in some fairly rough conditions; never felt unsafe, but a lot desired for build quality. Doubtful I'd by another the experience put me back to monohulls.

[@50procentkorting]

Yep Lagoon seems to have some serious issues with the bulkheads. Not just the 450 models it seems

[@rogergrandify]

WOOOW!!!! one doesn't see or ear that in a boat show!!!! thank you!!! this is a eye opener it makes you wonder about buying a yacht i saw a video of a 21,000,000 dollars yacht and it had the same problems doors and drawers not staying shut and squeaks and it seems that it's a problem after another that's not leisure time that's WORK!!! AND FOR THE PRICE THAT THEY ASK FOR THESE YACHT!!!!EHHHHHH!!

[@jayfitmob8645]

I have to say that I've always talked well about lagoon, but I'm starting to realize that build quality definitely is not one of their priorities. Fit and finish is absolutely gorgeous but they all seem to have this same issue. You're a brave man if you take on this project, honestly that sound would scare the s*** out of me. As soon as you started the video I said take that mother f***** right back to Port. I look forward to seeing what your decisions are with this, and I'd like to know what the offering price is if you don't mind.

[@johnwilbanks6665]

He never said he was buying the boat or taking on any project. he's filming this on his channel to document the boat to show lagoon..

[@operator0]

All of these plastic fantastics are built to a price point, and nearly all of them will be built with structural deficiencies. Juno, Beneteau, Bavaria, Lagoon, Fountaine Pajot, Hanse, among others, are all compromised to one degree or another, IMO. The only plastic fantastic that I might regard as a decently built boat would be the Leopards. The bottom line is that prospective boat buyers need to do their homework. It might make a lot of sense to buy an older boat built by a higher quality yard than to buy a new/newer boat built by one of these yards.

[@raynic1173]

Good chance it's not a build quality issue, it's more a design issue. May seem like semantics but there is a difference.

[@operator0]

@@raynic1173 I suppose you could call it a design issue when the engineers (or bean counters) call out glued bulkheads instead of fully tabbed bulkheads, and subpar materials, instead of properly engineered materials with a safety factor, but these engineering defects can be ironed out in the boat shed without drawings.

[@raynic1173]

@@operator0 problem there is that you can easily create 'hard spots' that can lead to more problems.

[@jaywhitestone4626]

I’m starting to creak & pop like that, especially when I’m pushing myself hard; but I have a lot more miles on me now than that cat 😉

[@kirkyorg7654]

ain't that the truth am in the same boat big PUN intended lol every joint pops, creaks, and grinds, & groans. lol

[@RachaelSA]

Same, it sounds like I'm activating glow sticks when I stand up. And I'm not even that old yet :(

[@marcvaillancourt4670]

My goodness, Lagoon is soooo far down my good boat list.

[@jimanonymous113]

It would take little slippage to generate that level of noise. If you're unlucky it's an important structural component that has broken loose. If it is just normal slippage due to normal flex then you might be able to refasten something. If it is just room carpentry you might fix it by spraying wax lubricant between the slipping surfaces.

[@markbernier8434]

Where you removed that panel, someone wrote "colle" or glue. Probably means they had to fix something during build.

[@TobyLovesLife]

Thanks! I just crossed Lagoon of my lists of boats to check out.

[@mkllove]

That noise is quite concerning James, you may want to see if the salon and aft deck areas are bent between where the hulls are braced by using a long tight string across floor level for reference to see if there is a big gap. You can go down the stairs and hold one end of line while someone else holds the other in same position on other stair to see if floor is still level across that span.

[@johnvanjnr]

We had the same problems with our Lagoon 630my, The noise comes from the cabinetry rubbing together. Big cats are designed to move a bit, but they have to have cabinetry that allows that. We had Lagoon pull out our creaky cabinetry and panels that made noise and fix the rubbing. It was a long process and is still not perfect.

[@DavidEvenson]

Dude. You haven’t seen Sailing Parley Revival? This has been covered in depth on their channel.

[@joecucch8261]

I'd like to see a 4 foot level on the floor. But door not closing may be a bigger issue than fitment.

[@getur99]

Mad flexing sounds. When it goes quiet it’s stopped flexing and just broke 😂

[@peterfrebold]

....... another great video that will bring the price down on boats where the owner does not want to go through the hassel of repairing ..... thanks for the share .... and as always .. never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans .....

[@rdembow]

Just like building cars, use more plastic. Boat builders make it look nice, but structural integrity and poor design will not work in the long run. Demand a fix for this boat or have a class action suit .

[@antonditt1661]

Look up Nahoa when they relaminated their bulk heads. Luckily Lagoon was never on my list.

[@marshallmurrell4583]

@Mal L Good explanation.

[@m.i.m6264]

I would get crazy with that sound. I would check if the rigging isn’t too tight

[@badcat4707]

Hi James :-) what if you or the owner of this Lagoon were to send a link to this video to the Lagoon tech support ? or customer service dept ? to see their reaction to the amount of creaking and popping noise coming from this particular Cat ?? and ask for their feedback . Also ask for any recommendations to quieten ? or strengthen the bulkheads to the hull ? or just beef up the whole infrastructure ?? It would be worth a try ? / Cheers .

[@BUCKMAW]

I have a crisp new $5 bill that says the folks a Lagoon have already watched this video.

[@jorgeborrell81]

Just for info. Lagoon 42 , named "Casulo", owner version, had this noises in souther Australian waters sailing in a storm with the family on board... and finaly deck got separated from hull in owners side... Big drama, lots of water coming in.... helicopter rescue and so on. Please check that joints hulls to deck.

[@Conan-ny1um]

I’m sure just like the 450 it’s the Bulkheads just like Parlay Revival! I’m curious if the sails were taken down and it was motoring if the creaking got better! I bet it’s the stays and Mast etc that’s making a lot of the noises because of stresses!

[@prex345]

Given what the 450 owners are going through, a bulkhead inspection should be done immediately.

[@crdorado1195]

Someone said it was just the 450 line... as an engineer, I knew it was every product line. It just makes sense, they[lagoon] use the same methods in EVERY line of vessels. "You can't make chicken salad from chicken shiiit." - me.

[@bill8by5]

You are most definitely correct. As another Engineer, rarely do design changes happen throughout production. This problem is rampant and entirely Engineering's fault.

[@bill8by5]

Like the chicken salad analogy! too funny.

[@spacewalker4087]

You can check the main bulkheads to see if they are cracked. They are the ones in front of the engines. Just remove the trim with a screwdriver or pry bar. They are glued on so you might damage the trim while taking it off. All of the evidence points to broken bulkheads.

[@peterrobierto7435]

Hey what happens when it gets rough, all that junk lying around is going to start flying around. Creaking is good on a wooden hull but in the cats case make sure you have a life jacket on.

[@liongod1000]

@Peter Robierto *_ Yep, that has to be the SLOPPIEST boat I've seen in a very long time.... crap laying all over the place... disgusting! One would be dead before you can abandon the sinking piece of sh!t !! _*

[@George.JS.Bailey]

@@liongod1000 Ah, Robert. I like you. You talk straight. What a pigsty, for sure.

[@Willgrf]

I was looking at these at the Southampton boat show. I will now walk on by and find something else!!!

[@smulismuli7976]

Yes you can see it flexing...but not flexing in a good way. That cracking is crazy serious structural issues and how the hell anyone can sleep in that boat while underway...

[@superyachtsurveysltd1082]

Sounds fun !! . Good job making people aware about lagoon quality

[@SlumpdWiz]

Makes everyone question Lagoons build quality even more! shouldnt there be a solid beams or running the whole width of the boat in 2 or 3 spots?

[@americanrider]

A Leopard mast is set on a metal I-beam that goes from one hull to the other under the salon

[@christip20]

Just wait until you see it! I’ve seen two in the smaller ones (450?) , the boards were basically smashed, so the sounds are likely the boards rubbing against each other. You should go watch the video from the Parlay guy, he’s fixed his but you can see it in the video. I can’t remember if he had the sounds on the video but I think he says something about it. There’s another guy that was right next to him with his Lagoon with the same problem...

[@capnordest]

What with Parlay Revival and this video, anybody with two brain cells or more would give Lagoon catamarans a wide distance. They have been found out in a big way! Glad they didn't build my house!

[@californiakayaker]

Ready to come apart. Apparently the front one gets saturated because of a leak situation. The rest of the boat flexes because that bulkhead is toast. One channel went through every bulkhead and found the rotten one last. It wsa a lagoon 450. Probably the same problem. If you look underneath, the floor has seperated most likely. An inch or more , no connection with the rest of the boat. It is bent and is a little hard to get it back to correct shape, the rigging is pulling it and shaping it. Hopefully, I've get it right, the front, but maybe its the back, one bulkhead at a minimum is toast.

[@miltonmiller]

It sounds like a big wooden house in a hurricane.

[@neotree605]

Was waiting for one..big pop! ..and the thing splits in half!!!!

[@guenthermichaels5303]

French quality for the charter market... The sound is engineered in to remind you of wooden sailing vessels Of yore... It's under the option list as " LGT. Lagoon Gloom Tune "

[@rainmaker3700]

LOL

[@forgetn]

If the bulkhead of a large cat is made of plywood problems are almost certain to occur when Teh boat is ridden hard. The weight and the sheer forces are such. The noise was lower on the side with three cabins tells you immediately the nature of the damages. Sure the 500 is designed differently than the 45, but the problem is the materials used. Old boats, like yours were made of solid Fiberglas new ones use core to reduce weight. When sailing Evans redid their keel matrix they discovered that it had only been glued on and not integrated in the hull with fibreglass. It’s not only the multihull that suffer from poor construction and cheap solutions to complex problems. Still bulkhead inspection here is essential. Good sailing

[@simonball2913]

As some of the other comments have mentioned....I think it's time to put a call into Colin on Parlay Revival.

[@313barrygmail]

Why call Colin you don’t think he has enough of his own problems he didn’t buy sell or make the boat call Lagoon!!!

[@billydaniel900]

Good luck on fixing that. 👍

[@vivianbond7449]

Pull the inside walls off where the bulkheads are

[@delegateview6093]

I watch another youtuber who re built a lagoon catamaran that was smashed during a hurricane. I have sailed on a few large yacht and many small ones, Lagoons seem to not be well engineered! Where as the yacht you have Oyster are over engineered! Keep up the good work!

[@michaelbissinger5183]

is it where Parley broke ?

[@CheersWarren]

That was a lot of noise but 10knt is fast in anyboat espically a sailing condo type loaded with gear and luxuries. Hopefully we get to see the conditions you actually were in in next video. It will be interesting if you get to compare with similiar size other cats. A good test would be stretching a string across an open area and see how it moves, and to same on other boats too. Cheers Warren

[@Escapadeaj]

Parlay Revival has proved that there are failures on these boats.

[@robertfreeman2322]

Sounds like the creaking I heard in the 52 Beneteau oceanis 2021 monohull me and my family chartered for 2 weeks out of Florida. There was substanial creaking in the aft cabin area especially and in only moderate chop. They glue everything together and I think shit comes loose after constant use but not necessarily a bulkhead but poorly secured framing and such. On a catamaran i'd be freaking out.

[@saveriorosini]

I foresee that soon the market will be flooded with secondhand Lagoons from desperate owners struggling to get rid of their squeaky mousetraps at ridiculous prices. Even though, I wouldn’t ever even think of buying a Lagoon…..my life and those of my loved ones are far too precious to be taking the absurd risk of a cracked boat in the middle of an ocean !!

[@BUCKMAW]

"the sound of a turd in a well" = the price of Lagoon cats falling...

[@geepuller1]

Is it repairable?

[@davidbolduc828]

At this point the best option for Lagoon owners with this problem is to fix the bulkheads. Costly-yes, but cheaper than new boat. Then go sailing.

[@stevew4260]

Sounds horrific, glad Im not onboard, I dont know how far your going but Id bet you cannot get there soon enough! The creaks/movement looks like a accident waiting to happen.

[@curtismulder1950]

A tornado dropped on my pontoon here on a lake in South Dakota. I had to jump out to save my life. I had PTSD for about a year or so. Any wind would make me freak out. We all know that Lagoon has bulkhead problems now. But my question is: Do you have PTSD from your incident south of Hawaii?

[@hatespeach9835]

yes

[@alohatvn]

Exceptional footage 👏👌. Thanks for sharing and we will see you on the next one 👍😀.

[@leftynelsoncom]

if anybody should know what a cat sound's like when it's breaking up

[@mikejohnson599]

well i could never afford a boat like that anyway but it is exciting listening to it creak and groan down below while doing 10 knots. didnt even one of the americas cup boats break up while under way so i guess cats are always susceptible to this problem no matter how well or badly they are built

[@KevinKurka]

So James what your saying is, you would very highly recommend Lagoon Catamarans to everyone wanting a big beautiful live aboard boat….. as long as they don’t ever leave the dock. 😜 Is that what your Catamaran sounded like before it cracked up into pieces ?

[@charonstyxferryman]

I wonder if Lagoon should tell every one that their boat are class D vessels. Being an apartment boat would safe, but perhaps not when a hurricane like hurricane Ida hits the marina.

[@marcuscosta6787]

Unbelievable!!! So many complain about this Catamaran

[@user-ye8co7xp6m]

Dare say I would rather sail the world in a 90's daewoo than a lagoon. Build quality is much safer :)

[@Duh6666666]

Sounds like a pirate ship of old, not a glassed-in modern cat.

[@rainfinger]

The noise comes from a force called Racking Strain, generated as the two pontoons move in opposition to each other, simply defined as one pontoon is twisting upward and the other pontoon is twisting downward, going through the waves, causing the noise.

[@timopartanen7262]

The wonderful sounds you get in boats and motorhomes where plywood rubs against other materials.

[@gringo4741]

Way too much flex in the bulkhead. There is a weak spot that is close to breaking.

[@lowryshank94]

Sure sign is pull the salon doors shut. There should be a big gap at the bottom. You will see many Lagoons with cheap gate locks because the factory locks no longer work. You can tell by the boat ads which ones have broken bulkheads.

[@Vikingo565656]

Check what Colin from Parlay Revival found in his Lagoon 450, he had to reinforce all the bulkheads, it was s ok Big the danage that Lagoon ended up recognizing structural failure on the design and now they have paid for part of the repair cost

[@alexryan9869]

You can see the door moving up and down. Don’t get in rough water there are some bad bulk heads. The structural integrity of that boat is bad.

[@MrBluidevil62]

Now is the boat flexible what is creaking might be the wood connected to the boat.alot of tight seams,Alitalia movement might creak

[@MrBluidevil62]

Alittle

[@defel1]

First thing, find the lifeboat. Second thing, head for port.

[@mohamedouarsafi3923]

Yes. James, I see it moving. I love your show. What a noisy boat!!! lol

[@WHEREVER-I-ROAM]

Boy this COMPANY is going to cost The owners of these boats MILLIONS in CHARTERS I would NOT get on that death trap

[@1corinthians15.1-4kjv]

That's just insane. Yeah, I like the Lagoon design, but the build quality is obviously sub par! That sound as comforting as the noise, when I fell on my nose a couple of years ago, downhill on mountainbike, and broke my collar bone.