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[@anglotsakonas6711]

Greek and Tsakonian captions now added. English translation to follow.

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English subtitles now added. Playback may default to English, switch to Greek/Tsakonian in settings.

[@hadere7632]

“No retreat, no surrender; that is Spartan law. And by Spartan law, we will stand and fight, and die” can you translate this for me, please! I want to get it tattooed on my arm

[@kristofevarsson6903]

I've always wanted to visit the Scottish part of Greece :/

[@savvass2950]

I was hamburg, and talking loudly with my friends, and pronounced northern greek accent. A Scottish biker, stopped in the middle of the street and asked me unironically "Are shcottich booy??" Did he mistake Greek with Gaelic??

[@Terrus_38]

Arch Stanton Greek part of Scotland?

[@Constantine_IA]

Gerard Butler is Scottish btw

[@vojsavaibrahimi3571]

They are Albanian people. All the "Greeks" are Arbanian = Albanian. The language is Albanian not skotch .

[@kristofevarsson6903]

@@Constantine_IA That was the 300 joke I was making lol thank you for being the only one to get it.

[@atouloupas]

5:37 Did you hear that? He said "κουβάνα" that means blue (in nominative plural). It comes from the anc. Greek κυϝανά (kuwana). In Doric Greek, the digamma ϝ (w) survived and in Tsakonian it now makes the β (v) sound! Digamma had disappeared in Attic Greek before the Clasical period, yet you can see it in Tsakonian! Such an amazing language!

[@ReplayButtonMolester]

I thought the Greek word for Blue was 'Mple'. What the hell am I being taught?

[@gweromonitor4419]

Απόστολε, in the past I had clerly lambast you for not "'ξηγιοσουν καλά" μα μπορώ να πω τώρα πως είσαι απο τους πιο ενδιαφέρον και πανέξυπνους σχολιαστές στην γλωσσολογία στο KZbin. Συγχαρητήρια για την υπομονή σου και την θέληση να μας προσφέρεις πλουσιοπάροχο υλικό να διαβάζουμε. Πως άρχισα με αγγλικά και τελείωσα σε ελληνικά ένας θεός ξέρει. :-P

[@billba]

Απόστολος Τουλούπας Great observation! Where are you from originally?

[@georgexatz4162]

@@ReplayButtonMolester It is mple

[@MrAbagaz]

@@ReplayButtonMolester it is kyano in ancient greek mple is in modern

[@corentin1708]

BIG RESPECT TO THIS MAN for keeping his culture alive !! beautiful language from legendary place !!! Please young people keep this languages and culture alive !!!! speak it !!!

[@christophervanderwesthuize9453]

They should try to preserve and expand the language by teaching it in schools and other methods that have been used to bring languages back from the brink. Thank you

[@Kurdedunaysiri]

I hope so

[@nikosr265]

@@Kurdedunaysiri why the hell would a Turk care?

[@Kurdedunaysiri]

@@nikosr265 i am not a Turk !!!

[@nikosr265]

@@Kurdedunaysiri Azeri?

[@Kurdedunaysiri]

@@nikosr265 ειμαι κουρδος

[@battalion2604]

The Spartan language!

[@mahatmaniggandhi2898]

Ντις Ιζ Σπαρταααα

[@user-zq8fk7pk7b]

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BEEEEEEEEEE Οι Σπαρτιάτες δεν μιλούσαν βλαχοαρβανίτικα ΩΡΕ

[@KouzounasKitchen]

I find this so interesting! My papou from Mani used to speak some Tsakonian! :)

[@Kurdedunaysiri]

Of course i do not try to offend you. Why will i do that? You are just so nervous. That is it

[@tobiasboston7795]

@@Kurdedunaysiri what?

[@user-lz9hp6zm9i]

Οι Μανιάτες δεν μιλάνε ιδιαίτερα τσακώνικα φίλε. Οι Μανιάτες δεν έχουν προφορά βλάχικη μόνο ντοπιολαλιες. Τσακωνες κυρίως θα βρεις προς Μονεμβασιά και προς Σπάρτη

[@nektarpanagiotis6707]

​@@user-lz9hp6zm9i Proforá bláxikh?? Oi Tsákwnes den éxoun oudemía sxésh me toūs Bláxous!!

[@jessicayoutobe]

Idioma descendente de Esparta...Fantástico!

[@theokaraman]

I am a Greek native speaker, and if a listen carefully, I can get the basic meaning of what he says. I think the main problem is the accent, it is very different from modern Greek. In some cases he uses elements from ancient Greek (eg. "Οι Τσάκωναι"), but without the -accepted in classical sudies- erasmian accent of ancient Greek.

[@aantony2001]

He says "οι Τσάκονε". Final "ς" is deleted, both the ancient and modern declentions end in "ες", not "αι".

[@madamedellaporte4214]

the accent is obviously influenced by contemporary pronunciation.

[@aokiaoki4238]

I understand what he is saying

[@lasagnasux4934]

As a non greek speaker, it sounds like "kananathana panatha pa" with a Spanish accent to me. Like, I swear I heard his say pinche at some point.

[@CHIOTIS1821]

@@lasagnasux4934 he surely didn’t say pinche because it would have sounded like pintse lol

[@terryi8910]

Wow it's really amazing to hear such an ancient language I can totally understand most of what he is saying as a Greek speaker myself. I can also hear a similarity between tsakonian and the ancient southern Italian greek speakers. Griko etc.... Great video Thanks 👍👍

[@fenderplayer2355]

My mother and her siblings spoke this language...... I recognize a few words. When I went to a school to learn Greek, and spoke in class in the Greek I KNEW, the instructor, a native Greek speaker told me "STOP speaking that hillbilly Greek!!!" WHAT are you speaking? Where are you from?" SPARTA.. was my answer. He shut his mouth real quick.

[@MaRaX93]

kai meta ksipnises

[@MrRuffeK]

Like the spartans before you! Oneliners masters

[@apo.7898]

Technically not Spartan but Cynourian (I have read they were Doric speaking Ionians).

[@gweromonitor4419]

MaRaX93@ You judging people's valid experience being illogical saying illogical and untrue things. Who crowned you to underestimate the story of OP?

[@evaalex001]

You,"Sparta!" The teacher thinking,"O shiet... can't anger him."

[@oreste8570]

This is Spartaaaaaa!!!!

[@KarlKeesel]

im from Chile and i would like to learn greek

[@kkoron7908]

Karl Patricks greetings from greece my brother!btw i have recently read about a tribe on Chile thats called the mapuche and i have read they are of greek(spartan) descend...do you know anything about them?is the article i read has any thuth or is it Bullshit?

[@billysbees]

dear Karl.IF you EVER decide to come to my country i will be more than happy to accommodate you, food sleep and everything FOR FREE. I live in Athenian suburbs hope its up to your taste.Like your attitude towards Greek heritage.

[@Pao234_]

Hola! No esperaba encontrar otro chileno por estos mares jsjs

[@Pao234_]

@@kkoron7908 I'm sorry to tell you but it was not true, the Mapuches' are completely "native american", but there's something interesting to point out, they were tough warriors who never gave up their pride and nation until the 19th Century, the Spanish never managed to entirely conquer them and the Mapuches actually raided the Spanish settlements quite a lot of times, perhaps that's why you read they were related, no one really knows where they came from (they look native american though) but everyone who has studied them knows they are fierce warriors who would have preferred death rather than surrender

[@Pao234_]

@@kkoron7908 Btw, love Greece, its culture, people, language and history (plus the greek pronunciation sounds so similar Peninsular Spanish!) Well, have a nice day bye!

[@ntrianta90]

Between 3:15 and 3:45 (roughly) he speaks Standard Modern Greek until the woman scolds him and tells him to keep it Tsakonian because the camera is still rolling. Also every time they ask him something it's just plain Greek. :)

[@kittaki1313]

he is translating what he said before, thats why he speaks M.Greek. :)

[@stephmod7434]

He is translating

[@HectorLugo]

It is a Greek dialect of great interest. Too often Greek is thought of as monolithic in Greece, but the many distinct ways the language has evolved in different areas is something that deserves more study and exposure.

[@stephmod7434]

tsakonian is not a dialect it is the other hellenic language

[@stephmod7434]

@@GorgeousGeorge97 dude i kniw Greek Tsakonian is a differnt language

[@AspireGMD]

A lot of greek speakers are saying they understand it so yeah it is a dialect.

[@HectorLugo]

@@stephmod7434 It is very much a dialect, but it is better said that both Tsakonian and Greek are dialects in a broader Hellenic family of dialects. They are not as different as, say, German and English, which are not mutually intelligible. However, as there is no fully agreed upon definition for the categories of dialect and language, often being a political distinction rather than a linguistic one, we can agree that they are at least very closely related spoken communication systems.

[@stephmod7434]

@@HectorLugo no they are both a differenct language on the Hellenic branch.

[@user-zh1ct8xe9l]

I am Greek and I understood almost nothing.And its so weird because these people don't inhabit some borderline area .They are literally in Peloponeese which is like the center of Greece and Hellenism and I am from Peloponeese too.And its not like Arvanitic that derive from a different language.Really extraordinary and amazing

[@Paraglidecrete]

i am greek and i understand the majority , you just lying

[@user-zh1ct8xe9l]

@@Paraglidecrete Ασε μας ρε που καταλαβες τσακωνικα πλακα μας κανεις?Διαβασε τσακωνικα χωρις μεταφραση και ελα πες μου τι καταλαβες βλακαμα θα πεις και lying

[@Threezi04]

​@@Paraglidecrete he is speaking alot of standard Greek mixed in with Tsakonian. Tsakonian is mostly completely unintelligible to Greek speakers, it has diverged separately for thousands of years

[@kusho3407]

Just say Albanian, it’s really not a big deal

[@user-zh1ct8xe9l]

@@kusho3407 If i wanted to say it i would.I wanted to say different language and i did 😉

[@tauraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

As a Greek speaker I can say that I understand 90% of this. I can tell he is using different words and pronunciation. Its the equivalent of an English speaker speaking with alot of slang, or old English words

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

Like a Scot?

[@matthewwhitton5720]

@@Ggdivhjkjl Scots is a language in and of itself. Read Robbie Burns. It is NOT a dialect of English.

[@eduardocarbonellbelando6865]

no , it is not

[@RaffleRaffle]

​@@matthewwhitton5720Scots is pretty much what he described. And is very mutually intelligible with English💀

[@coffeefish94]

Direct descendent of the Laconian dialect of Ancient Greek which the Spartans spoke, no?

[@Wikitongues]

Correct!

[@palehonkie]

First time for me to hear this language. It and the history of the speakers is fascinating to say the least

[@mylesgarcia4625]

THIS is SPARTA! It's all Tsakonikan to me!!

[@johnm2197]

Our family is from these parts of Arcadia which are considered Spartan speaking. Thankyou for sharing. It is amazing to hear. Interesting when he uses the word sounding like "ohne" it has the exact same sound meaning as the German, equivalent to "without". ( I.e without (Tsakonian being written)

[@SURVIVEALLChannelByHawkeBrand]

Awesome! I'm 1/3 Greek, roots to Sparta. Big on languages, very interested in this space. Thanks!

[@stephmod7434]

Its not spoken in Sparta.

[@SURVIVEALLChannelByHawkeBrand]

@@stephmod7434 So, you're saying this is a lie? And you know everyone there and that none of them CAN speak it? It is not saying it is the normal language used every day, that would be Greek, of course. But for you to say it's not spoken there, like you are an expert and know all those living there, is very unprofessional and most likely incorrect. I suppose that makes you just another keyboard expert. I have zero interest in your "opinion". I deal in facts. Go back to playing your video games. You give your generation a bad name. Just because you have a computer and a keyboard, doesn't mean you have something to say. And when you sat stupid things like this- you prove my point. Good bye.

[@Dinosaur315]

​​​@@SURVIVEALLChannelByHawkeBrandFirst, relax, don't be aggressive, he didnt insult you nor claimed to be a proffessional. Second, he's right, tsakonian isnt really spoken in Sparta, not even traditionally. Now if it's spoken by a few people that's irrelevant because they most likely come from Tsakonia. Generally all tsakonian speakers are in Tsakonia and few thousands speak it nowadays. It's also not certain if it's the same language that spartans spoke, it could be just a variation of doric that was related to its spartan/laconian variation, basically spartan doric and tsakonian doric could be siblings rather than the same.

[@SURVIVEALLChannelByHawkeBrand]

@@Dinosaur315 Bwahaha! I love it when some stranger comes to my space to tell me what to do and how to be, fairly ignorant start, my friend. Followed up by a very ignorant way of addressing some one on a topic- let me edify you: Hi, I'm a BLANK in LINGUISTIC HISTORY and THAT IS WHY I SAY SOMETHING. You know, the normal common sense courteous discourse with another human when you are engaging in a genuine topic with a sincere care abot facts and truth, if you disagree, you must state your qualifications and/or reasons/sources for your differing opinion, OR Did your parents or teachers not teach you that fundamental etiquette? If I come to your page where you posted any kind of point, and I disagreed... I'd either leave it, or if I felt it was good to know, I'd quote a source, make a reference, or state my background or experience that justifies my differing opinion. Example- Someone posts something dumb like vaccines don't work, I reply with I'm a licensed paramedic, former Special Forces Medic, B.S. In biology, etc, etc and that is why I disagree. Otherwise, it's just an opinion with no facts or info to back it. As you yourself have really FAILED to address the same points. I don't know you. Never met you. Never asked for your opinion. I'm sharing something that is neat and interesting culture in hopes of letting more NON-Greeks know. You both come here to beat on me and the article- Ok: WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS? I don't give a rat's butt about your opinion- unless you have something more than that to justify countering the research and researchers who presented this article. By the by, to polish off this block of instruction on how to be a better human NO ONE knows exactly the truth of history as 1/3 is found, 1/3 is lost and 1/3 is lies written by the victors. The funny part about all this- all my info is posted publicly, but in case you failed to educate yourself before you engage- I have studied languages for 30 years. Been rated in 7, paid for 3 at the same time, have a best selling language book- A Masters, 2 Blackbelts, 9 wars and a whole lot more. Let this be a lesson to you, want to teach someone, bring the facts or stay home. Here endeth the lesson. Peace ✌🙏🙃

[@SURVIVEALLChannelByHawkeBrand]

@@Dinosaur315 By the way, I'm just going to unsubscribe and leave. Y'all "real" Greeks just seem ugly and rude to me now. I won't try to continue supporting this knowledge. As a TV guy and SF guy, really disappointed. Keep well out there beating up on others who are trying to support you. Good luck with that.

[@eugeniakatsafadou331]

Great video! As a native Greek speaker I can unsterstand pretty much all of what the man says!

[@whosaidiaskedforfreemoney2795]

Greek sounds Spanish to me, I understand Greek and it does sound like Spanish or Italian.

[@jakeukalanemilegum]

that is because the vocals are similar, but we can't understand each other at all.

[@OstasHs]

No and No.

[@OstasHs]

@@GorgeousGeorge97 dude thanks.

[@michaelhadjimichael4778]

Im greek cypriot and i can understand everything. Its like listening to a person from the balkans speaking greek

[@2tz02]

Finally an endangered language!

[@ntrianta90]

If you're still learning Greek you might have realized that the guy replying to you above is rather rude. If you still have questions and would like a more sober dialogue, feel free to message me. :)

[@MrStalkerhunter]

I would like to hear gerard butler do this bit

[@Jesus92GP]

The language of ancient Sparta. Nice !

[@fernando-ek6dr]

No, but very close

[@johnsantrizos7638]

It's probably not, but my uncle has a hunch our last name may be of Doric/tsakonian origin. The name comes from Pakia near Molaoi in Lakonia

[@lingoteen]

As a greek, I understood 90% of what he was saying. It is similar, well, at least his dialect of "Prastós", the villages where he lives. As he said, there is a more clear and less understandable dialect. Really cool after all and of course that one characteristic ʎ sound.

[@aantony2001]

What he spoke is basically a creole of Standard Modern Greek and Tsakonian. An example is the word "ιστορία" a direct loan from Standard Greek. A monolingual native speaker of Tsakonian would probably have some difficulty pronouncing "στ", as the sound doesn't exist in the language. He also didn't use aspirated stops, which are a feature of traditional Tsakonian.

[@lingoteen]

@@aantony2001 well in my dialect of greek (standard) aspirated stop aren't used any more since they obviously turned into voiceless fricatives but I personally use them when I wanna give emphasis to a sentence or a word. Allthough rarely used, they do exist and I've heard other people using them too. Example: Κάτσε εκεί πέρα (sit here) Normally it is: 'ka.t͡s̪ɛ ɛ.ˈki ˈpɛɾa But with emphasis it can also be: ˈkʰa.t͡sʰɛ ɛˈkʰi ˈpʰɛ.ɾa Notice how the s turned from dental to normal? I guess this is because of the aspiration, at least in my case. And yes, africates get aspirated as well. There is a more common way of showing emphasis and it is VSO and OVS order, but he aspiration is either rare or not a lot of people notice.

[@aantony2001]

@@lingoteen Yes I have noticed aspiration used in this way. It's also used allophonically even more widely in the Dodecanese. Similarly, studies have shown that Greeks often voice stops without noticing it, and I'm not just talking about "τον πατέρα": to ba.'tɛ.ɾa, where there is a preceding "ν", but also plain words like "κάτω" are sometimes pronounced almost like "κάντω". However Tsakonian uses aspirated stops phonemically, not in place of Standard Greek aspirated stops, but in place of some consonant clusters (ιστορία for example would be something like i.tʰo'ri.a).

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

@@aantony2001 Are you a native Tsakonian speaker yourself?

[@aantony2001]

@@Ggdivhjkjl No, I'm a native speaker of Cretan, but I've studied the (significantly under-researched) Greek dialects.

[@Paraglidecrete]

Η αποδειξη οτι ο Γιάκομπ Φίλιπ Φαλμεράυερ εγραφε αρλουμπες 'Genetics of the peloponnesean populations and the theory of extinction of the medieval peloponnesean Greeks' George Stamatoyannopoulos, Aritra Bose, Athanasios Teodosiadis, Fotis Tsetsos, Anna Plantinga, Nikoletta Psatha, Nikos Zogas, Evangelia Yannaki, Pierre Zalloua, Kenneth K Kidd, Brian L Browning, John Stamatoyannopoulos, Peristera Paschou & Petros Drineas

[@Constantine_IA]

Τhis sounds so alien but yet so familiar to any Greek

[@Leon18352]

The Language of Laconians, Argolides, Messinians, Arcadians, and Corinthians. Preserve and speak the Language of your Warrior Ancestors just like the Man in this Video. Long Live Tsakonia!

[@romanparisian4243]

lion8787 the modern Day Laconians are the Descendants of Spartans while the Others are different Tribes. Get your Facts straight.

[@kkoron7908]

lion8787 i think the whole pelloponesse was speaking that dialect

[@mareksagrak9527]

@@romanparisian4243 Certainly not whole Peloponnese, but it is almost proofed it was spoken from the Kynouria (modern Tsakonia) all the way to Monemvasia and cape Malea. That's to say, in almost every part of eastern Laconia

[@bensomethingetc]

The prosody reminds me a lot of southern/eastern Italian dialects

[@alexanderthegreek6751]

I am Greek and I understand around 70% so it’s a Greek dialect just like Cypriot just like Cretan just like Griko Calabrian griko Sicilian

[@thetriumphofthethrill2457]

Very interesting to hear how the Spartans may have spoken and sounded.

[@jakeg3733]

Probably not like this, but closer to this than other Greek speakers. Thousands of years and a lot of shit has gone down in that region in that time, most importantly the Turks came and tried to impress their ways onto everyone, the crusades moving back and forth probably had an effect on the regional languages too

[@claricestarling3153]

​@@jakeg3733 The Turkish was not forced on people of Peleponnese, if they start learning Turkish it has only one meaning, Peleponnese was majority Turkish once.

[@JinnDante]

Λόγω του ότι έχω καταγωγή από Κρήτη και έχω πάει πάρα πολλές φορές και έχω επαφή με την κρητική διάλεκτο κάποιες λέξεις μοιάζουν και φενεται ότι το νόημα μπορώ να το πιάσω ευκολότερα

[@Farrukhsiyar159]

[@tobiasboston7795]

Yeah, can you believe it??

[@Farrukhsiyar159]

@@tobiasboston7795 Yea.

[@CorinMio]

You can keep it going by visiting this area of Greece and learning a few words of Spartan. You will make your dent on the universe by passing it down to your children.

[@Farrukhsiyar159]

I'm not going to learn Spartan lol. There's thousands of other dying languages out there too. @@CorinMio

[@MrAllmightyCornholioz]

Reminds me of Age of Mythology

[@panikas2338]

haha

[@georgioslatsis2482]

Hello, everyone, I am really imprested with this video I am for that region.

[@Wikitongues]

Thank you George! Do you happen to know any Tsakonian/Tsakonika speakers?

[@georgioslatsis2482]

@@Wikitongues I know many of them, we are relatives unfortunately year after year they passing away!

[@sailenkatel3436]

@@georgioslatsis2482 I wish you would learn the language. I would if I were Spartan but I am an Indian and I have no resources. This deserves to be preserved.

[@GeorgiosTsirmpas]

I am Greek and i understand everything.

[@tony232cool]

he is speaking greek mixed with few words of spartan, one of 12 dialects of ancient Hellenic languages. greek has little archaism preserved while Laconian language is very archaic and closest to old Hellenic

[@CorinMio]

Indeed. Essentially he is just speaking modern Greek. But those few words of Spartan are 3000+ years old and amazing to hear.

[@skylinelover9276]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2arl2ObppxqerM that is Doric Greek Hellenic language. The original Hellenic proto Hellenic language. Originated in Epirus, Thessaly and maccedonia Greece

[@savvageorge]

This just sounds like normal Greek to me. I think the Greek dialects spoken in the Peloponnese colonies of Cyprus and Calabria in Italy are more similar to ancient Spartan.

[@olbiomoiros]

savvageorge I doubt that the Cypriot dialect and the south Italian dialect are descended from Ancient Greek. They are both more likely descended from medieval Greek. Both of them are dying. The Cypriot dialect has become somewhat similar to modern Greek due to preference of modern Greek than Cypriot in Cypriot society as well as the fact that it’s not taught at school. The south Italian dialect also has heavy influences from Italian, and in less than 20y it will be dead or at least almost dead.

[@giovannialoi6143]

savvageorge Griko in southern Italy is a late Byzantine offspring

[@fzpe856]

@@olbiomoiros πάμε κατά διαόλου δηλαδή. Εγώ μιλώ την κυπριακή διάλεκτο και ελπίζω να εξακολουθήσει να υπάρχει και στο μέλλον. Θυμάμαι ,όταν ήμουν στην Αμερική, είχα συναντήσει μια οικογένεια από την Πάφο. Μου έλεγαν πριν είναι χωριάτικα να λέω «εία,έωκα,εγιώ, εσού». Η μάνα ήταν και δασκάλα ...

[@olbiomoiros]

@@fzpe856 ναι ενεν; κόμπλεξ πολύ!!

[@bastianodimebag]

@@olbiomoiros The Italian dialects don't come directly from Ancient Greek, but they retain some archaic feature, like the 3rd plural person form of present indicative

[@matthewwhitton5720]

Wouldn’t it be wonderful to have heard, say, his great-grandparents !?

[@barbarareinke2220]

QUEREMOS APRENDER CON MI HIJO SOMOS FANS DE ESPARTA Y DE LEONIDAS , HACEN CURSOS? SOMOS DE ARGENTINA

[@greensoplenty6809]

sounds like greek and spanish combined... i dont know much about greek but im from california, if i heard this in a taqueria id think hes just from some south american country im not very familiar with...guatamala er something id guess...peru maybe...

[@greensoplenty6809]

@Arch Stanton well if i knew i was gonna get graded i woulda made a new paragraph or something... i like to just put three dots when start a new thought... faster that way...i dont care if im not writing a book...

[@zZzZUPER]

@Arch Stanton leave the californian alone.. -___-

[@thanos5665]

I am a Greek and i understand enough (I don't know tsakonian language (Sparta)

[@carpetanoknight9727]

No soy capaz de distinguir el Tsakonio del Griego moderno, para mí suena igual!

[@cantaelaedo]

Por que son lenguas muy cercanas. Pero en las palabras es donde se nota la diferencia

[@tasosfilippoy]

Even i am Greek i find difficult to understand this dialect.

[@christianjones-hickey7261]

Tasos Filippos It’s not a dialect, that’s why.

[@madamedellaporte4214]

You can understand round about if you are patient and give yourself time with it....it is Athenians or others that have a complex and refuse to try.

[@madamedellaporte4214]

Just try. Shut y our eyes and gues what he could be saying. Try to find roots of words and and slowly you will understand a chunk of it. Patience and exposure.

[@madamedellaporte4214]

Cat People documentarys Karakatsan in Bulgaria, Sarakatsan in Greece

[@madamedellaporte4214]

Cat People documentarys The Sarakatsani (Greek: Σαρακατσάνοι, also written Karakachani) are an ethnic Greek population subgroup[4][5] who were traditionally transhumant shepherds, native to Greece, with a smaller presence in neighbouring Bulgaria, From Wkipedia.

[@user-uu9we8pd3e]

Καποιοι λένε οτι ειναι Σλάβοι μέχρι και οτι εινα Σαξονες εμενα οταν τα ακουω ...και τα ακουω συχνα γιατί ειμαι απο την Αρκαδία γιατί μου θυμίζουν τα γκρεκανικα της μεγάλης Ελλάδας?

[@romanparisian4243]

Laconian sounds somewhat similar to standard Greek/Athenian, are they intelligible?

[@olbiomoiros]

I agree with Danae

[@pantelispantelis1820]

@danae husak discord.gg/Yj2yusGHqU

[@alanocana5383]

El dialecto Griego de los Espartanos, el mismo de Leónidas y sus 300 guerreros.

[@Ferrai777]

It cant be the same.

[@educationistnargiz]

I read the article about this language. It is consiered as one of the oldest languages in Europe. It sounds like Spanish/ Latin. Sounds nice)

[@AndyInsuasti]

Not at all! I am native Spanish speaker and not similarity

[@ByZHellas]

@@AndyInsuasti Spanish and Greek vaguely sound similar, but that's just the vocals.

[@cbv7207]

It reminds me of Albanian

[@PolAdd22]

@@AndyInsuasti greek and Spanish sound similar to non-speakers because of the common sounds plus many greek words in Spanish and many Latin words in greek....but they are not even in the same language family. They are Indo-European but spanish evolved from latin while greek from older greek. They are as related as English to albanian and Persian 😂

[@RingsOfSolace]

This almost sounds like Spanish with a different rhythm, or as if someone was speaking Spanish wrong but with a heavy accent. It's not intelligible to me at all, but I mean the sounds, rhythm and stress specifically.

[@dudikapanteric1141]

Don't forget the ancient greek colonies in Spain.

[@osbiggs9602]

It would be nice to see someone dressed like a Spartan soldier speaking the language - to create a historical context.

[@andy1992uk]

Very similar dialect to cypriot

[@MOPCLinguistica]

The whole Wikitongues enterprise is laudable but it's one huhe waste. The monologues should be subtitled with glosses and translations, so we can appreciate the structure of the language and understand what they are saying. A mere string of sounds says very little about a language.

[@iberius9937]

You seem to forget language is originally, and primarily, an aural experience. However, I understand your point. Yet, is it not enough to appreciate the structure of what you HEAR, whether you understand it of not? Is not language, after all, just "a string of sounds", as you say?

[@antonisxenos1053]

Tsakonian IS Greek. I have never heard the dialect before, I just heard this gentleman speak for the first time and I can understand everything he says apart from some words and grammar.

[@Tatoon]

It's not a dialect, it's a completely different language. Tsakonian descends from the Doric dialect of Ancient Greek, instead of Attic-Ionic (which evolved into the modern Greek language). They have split over 3,000 years ago. To put that into perspective, it was at about the same time the ancestor of the Baltic languages and the ancestor of the Slavic languages split. The Germanic languages started to split 500 years after that and the Latin languages 1,000 years or more.

[@billysbees]

yo people relax. Hold your horses and hide your hoplons. Doric tongue was used by all pelloponisians and their colonies . not only Spartans..

[@skenderbegthegreatiskender4667]

Spartans where the true Albanians. Greeks don't exist anymore. They stole all that was Albanian

[@olbiomoiros]

Lmao, Albania didn’t even exist as a nation prior to the Middle Ages.

[@donninopoutso5292]

@@skenderbegthegreatiskender4667 Shut yo bitch ass

[@stephmod7434]

@@skenderbegthegreatiskender4667 no brain

[@tobiasboston7795]

@@skenderbegthegreatiskender4667 🤣🤣🤣

[@272degrees5]

I wish he spoke more laconically :) Huge fan of this but have he's really hesitant, like he doesn't speak it often or something. Granted maybe just my inturpretation.

[@madamedellaporte4214]

Ο τσουμπες τι είναι γατί στην Λευκάδα είναι μερος τις γυναικάς φορεσιάς. Είναι πολύ ενδιαφεερον για εμενα. Ευχαριστώ.

[@lenaa8704]

Xhube It is a part of traditional costume everywhere in the region. Albanians use this word too.

[@luisdrag12]

εγώ μιλάω ελληνικά και δεν καταλαβαίνω σχεδόν τίποτα τσακωνικών

[@kotzos100]

eukolo einai na katalaveis to eurytero nohma..ama theloumai den tha xathei

[@michalisoikon3019]

Εγω ειμαι κρητικος και τα καταλαβαινω ολα

[@savvass2950]

@@michalisoikon3019 εγώ είμαι Θεσσαλονίκιος και επίσης τα κατανοώ όλα! Κάντε μια προσπάθεια και οι υπόλοιποι ρε παιδιά, ντροπή πια.

[@olbiomoiros]

Εύκολο είναι να καταλάβεις. Θέλεις συγκέντρωση επειδή εκτός από αρχαϊκές μορφές, είναι παρών και ο τσιτακισμός και το νι το λι το μοριάτικο.

[@pantelispantelis1820]

@@savvass2950 discord.gg/Yj2yusGHqU

[@Sira628]

im greek its close to griko?! in south italy!

[@StravosRacing]

Δωρικά,η μητέρα της Κρητικής και Κυπρικακής προφοράς. Τα αρχαία ελληνικά και τα νεότερα γενικά είναι εξέλιξη των ελληνικών που μιλούσαν οι Ιωνες έλληνες,με που χρησιμοποιούσαν μια πιο "καθαρή" προφορά,έμεινε στην ιστορία ως Κοινή ή Αλεξανδινή.

[@olbiomoiros]

Με συγχωρείς αλλά νομίζω πως είναι η Αττική-Ιωνική (τα αρχαία που διδάσκονται στα σχολεία) που είχε την μεγαλύτερη επιρροή στην νεοελληνική γλώσσα μας. Αυτό είναι πιθανόν το μόνο ιδίωμα της ελληνικής με δωρικές ρίζες.

[@sophiapapadopoyloy1050]

@@olbiomoiros έχουμε και λέμε οι αρχαίες ελληνικές διάλεκτοι είναι η δωρική ,αιολική , Αττική ιωνική .Μάλιστα αρχαιότερη είναι η δωρική στην οποία γράφει ο μεγάλος Ποιητής Πίνδαρος τα έργα του υπάρχουν ωστόσο και κατηγορίες διαλέκτων όπως η αρκαδοκυπριακη η κρητική και η Μακεδονική που είναι παρακλάδι της Δωρικής ελληνικής

[@sophiapapadopoyloy1050]

@@olbiomoiros η ελληνική κοινή είναι το συσωματωμα όλων των κύριων αρχαιων ελληνικών διαλέκτων

[@olbiomoiros]

@@sophiapapadopoyloy1050 δεν μπορείς να πεις ότι η μια διάλεκτος είναι πιο αρχαία από μια άλλη. Αν κάνουμε τέτοιες συγκρίσεις τότε η Αρκαδοκυπριακή είναι η κοντινότερη στη γλώσσα των Αχαιών (Μυκηναίων). Αλλά εν πάση περιπτώσει όλες ήταν διάλεκτοι της ίδιας αρχαίας γλώσσας. Αυτό που ήθελα να πω είναι πως τα σημερινά κρητικά και τα κυπριακά καθώς και όλα τα επιζώντα ελληνικά ιδιώματα προέρχονται από την Κοινή Ελληνιστική/ Αττική-Ιωνική εκτός από την Τσακωνική και πιθανόν την Ιταλιωτική. Αλλά ούτε εδώ μπορούμε να πούμε ότι τα Τσακώνικα είναι πιο αρχαία από τις δημοτικές διαλέκτους, διότι είναι απόγονος των Δωρικών, όχι τα αυτούσια δωρικά. Ουσιαστικά, τα τσακώνικα είναι και αυτα ένα σύγχρονο ιδιωμα ενός άλλου παρακλαδιού της ελληνικής. Απλώς δεν έφερε αλλά τέκνα- ή δεν εξαπλώθηκε όπως η Αττική-Ιωνική διάλεκτος, εμφανέστατα λόγω της πολιτιστικής και λογοτεχνικής σημασίας της Αττικής-ιωνικής και της ελάσσονος πολιτικής δυνάμεως των Λακεδαιμονιών μετά την ήττα τους από τον Μέγα Αλέξανδρο στη μάχη των «Ποντικών».

[@icedtrs8455]

This is how Spartans talk

[@aviationfansalbania2332]

It is a little bit similiar with Spanish if I may be wrong

[@Rodav92Metal616]

I’m a native Spanish speaker from Chile and I didn’t understand a single word 😂 Maybe the accent is somewhat similar to European Spanish though. Where are you from?

[@eduardoaraujo6504]

Such handsome man...

[@GeorgeL44]

Δεν χρειάζεται να τα μεταφράσεις στα Ελληνικά γιατί έχει Αγγλικούς υπότιτλους!

[@enoughisenoughenough4037]

Very Archaic form of Greek/Hellenic.

[@BudgetGainsByJJ]

EnoughIsEnough Enough...what's the difference, between the dialects? Can each and every Greek still hold a conversation speaking their own dialect?

[@pyrrhocorax]

@@BudgetGainsByJJ Some dialects can understand each other,to some extent. I will give an example. There is the word "Γκιαλατζεύου"(Gjaladzevu)in Mistiot Greek. In Pontic Greek it's "Καλαντζεύω" (Kaladzevo). In Modern Greek that word is "λέω"(leo). The meaning of all these is "I say, I speak". A modern Greek speaker cannot understand some of the dialectal words, but the speakers of Pontic and Mistiot can.

[@cangalha]

Mistura cirilico e latin

[@daniellopez9622]

As an Spanish native speaker it sounds to me as a combination of slavic and greek

[@BudgetGainsByJJ]

Daniel López as a slav, this very much is NOT Slavic, lol I didn't understand a single word...

[@jakeukalanemilegum]

is because of the entonation and the nasal tone.

[@stephmod7434]

While ths language is older from every slavic language

[@stephmod7434]

@@GorgeousGeorge97 tsakonian isnt a dialect its a LANGUAGE

[@dudikapanteric1141]

Well the Dorians came from the north. The territory now inhabitated by Slavs.

[@obabas80]

Very cool. To me it sounds like a mix of Cretan and Cyprian.

[@stephmod7434]

Cool do you onow that is older than both cretan and cypriot?

[@obabas80]

@@stephmod7434 yes, much older!

[@stephmod7434]

@@obabas80 ετοτε τι μλκια πεταξες;

[@obabas80]

@@stephmod7434 γιατί μαλακια; Απλά είπα ότι τους μοιάζει λίγο ως προφορά

[@stephmod7434]

@@obabas80 ααα νομιζα οτι εννοούσες οτι είναι μιξη κυπριακων και κρητικών η γλώσσα😂😂😂 σορρυ νόμιζα οτι αυτο εννοούσες

[@alexandartheserb7861]

-Konian/konji on my language means horses

[@AkellaAkella-kp1mp]

Does he have a Russian accent?

[@salo874]

This is SPARTA!

[@robertberger4203]

Doesn't sound very different from standard Greek .

[@robertberger4203]

Thanks . It this actually considered to be a separate language from Greek ? As far as I know, Greek is isolated within Indo-European and has no close relatives .

[@MisterLovahLovah]

+Robert Berger No, it's one of the two official dialects of the greek language. And I can understand definitely a lot more than 30% of what he's saying, but I don't think it would be the same if I could hear his grandfather speaking...

[@justinstoleson8507]

+Robert Berger Strictly linguistically speaking, mutual unintelligibility is perhaps the primary measure of whether or not things ought to be considered separate languages. Most Romance languages, for example, have a much higher degree of mutual intelligibility than Tsakonian and Greek do, and they are considered separate languages. Political/nationalistic concerns aside, Tsakonian and Greek probably ought to be classified as separate languages.

[@kotzos100]

Its the hellenic branch..its not an isolated language..pontic greek,tsakonian,the greek languages of italy and more makes this branch..

[@apo.7898]

The problem is that he speaks it as if it is his second language (with the first being Standard Modern Greek).

[@filaejoe4332]

Thiiiissss iiiiiiiiissss Spaaaaartaaaaan

[@romanparisian4243]

Spartan total Warrior brought me here.

[@kirby_420inspired7]

modern day Spanish if you ask me

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Spartan language

[@grecothegekko]

Unfortunately, this is not a good example of Tsakonian. The speaker is most of the time just inserting a few different vocabulary words into standard Modern Greek, and many times is speaking 100% Modern Greek with a Spartan accent.

[@coogauy9457]

Sounds similar to brazilian Portuguese

[@empsirch7983]

Sounds like Greek Cypriot in mountains. (My grand parents speak similar) He speaks standard Greek prior to 1821 when they changed the Greek Language to a TicTak (slav or latin) inspired version of Greek. Some Greeks in Greece ( Hellas ) have been indocternated with a strange reinvented nationalism. Most of Greeks from Greece are not originally from Hellas and Did Speak the Same as this fella ! He jusy adds a little bit of standard tictak Greek after 1821.

[@empsirch7983]

@@GorgeousGeorge97 I think you were dropped on the head a few too many times growing up. Maybe you should take a peak at DNA analysis off people in Greece. (less than 30-50% of Greek in them.) And, while your add it maybe you should study KOINE GREEK, Biblical Greek Language. Its closer to Greek from Islands than in Greece.

[@duskojowcewski643]

What do you mean slav?

[@empsirch7983]

@@duskojowcewski643 maybe you are unfamiliar with History. The Roman Empire in east for past 1,000 years was integrated with slavic peoples. (Helen,any others) Many Greek and Slavic marriages, people identifying only as one, Greek Romani (Not Romanian). There was no such thing as Serbians, Croatian, Albanian, Etc. These days if you lived in south, you would speak, read and write in Koine Greek. Latin was pushed out as well. During this time there was many different dialects of Greek. Islanders and Cypriots speak closest to old middle ages Greek. (Koine Greek). The Greek dialect in these days in Greece, not other areas are very linear. Which close to Slavic areas., and Latins such as Vlachy. Its linear monotoned. Without expressive tones. Greek in Cyprus, Anatolia, Sicily, Syria and others speak with lots of Style. And FYI many famous people Greeks had Slavic ancestory. After 1821 Greek Kingdom formed, and they chose one dialect to standardize. Which is the version used in Greece, it is the most un-Greek dialect but is fine. Dont give us this dramatic facist Crap since the 1900s created by former Natzi aymparhizers !! These people creating this BS norse aryan fake history were Sympathizers of the illiterate lombard King, claiming victory on Rome when the capital was in Constantinople!. Another reason to send that Natzi Facism Super Slavia crap in the trash can is because these fake identity put Germans Supposed Aryans (fake news, steeling Greek History) on top of Slavic peoples. The Natzis broadcasted a photo of a slavic farmer and called him a Sub Human Degenerate unworthy of Aryan BS. This is really sad. So, if your one of these Natzi Sympathizers please educate yourself and how stupid this fake news is !! How pathetic, and check when their alphabet was created. How can thry be so advanced without alphabet !!

[@wankawanka3053]

@@duskojowcewski643 bulgaroski stop talking

[@tobiasboston7795]

​@@empsirch7983 You give flat earther vibes.

[@garethmaccoll4374]

Cool! The namesake of the Scots tongue.

[@stephmod7434]

Its older than Scottish

[@garethmaccoll4374]

It's Scots and I'm aware. It was a casual comment referring to the fact that the Scots language was named Doric by its detractors after the ancestor of this language, as it was seen by them to be less civilised than 'proper' English

[@arkofmemories]

What about Βλάχικα; Είναι απαραίτητα νομιζω :)

[@saebica]

Debbie Mal We have a lot of videos

[@gioq4702]

I recognised the word "profora" which is similar to italian "proferire" . probably the etymology of the word Prophet.

[@toboologlou]

Προφορά (profora) = accent, pronunciation

[@toboologlou]

also on prophet en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%80%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%86%CE%AE%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%82#Greek Etymology: From προ- (pro-, “before”) +‎ φημί (phēmí, “I say”) +‎ -της (-tēs, “-er”, masculine agent-noun suffix).

[@gioq4702]

@@toboologlou "fore-teller" in English. English is the new Greek :)

[@stephmod7434]

@@gioq4702 even us Greeks cant understand all of what he says

[@sirsomeone2408]

yperocoz kuvana

[@kkgg4419]

Όποιος πάει στην Σιάτιστα Κοζάνης ας πάρει και λεξικό μαζί του

[@TheUnforgiven59]

Google Translate needs to add some of these critically endangered languages.

[@nossocanal2240]

Existe algum canal ou alguém na Internet que ensine esse dialeto espartano. ..... .

[@sprc155]

This is harder than Koine Greek

[@vipper6379]

Eeeeeeeeh.. Voktola... Eeeeeeeeh.. Struska... Eeeeeeeh!

[@jakdom8934]

πολυ λακωνικός ο μαν, με το τσιγκελι του τα βγαζουν

[@deejaaay7600]

Sounds just like Spanish.

[@kingtryfon5702]

τι λεει ο αδερφος

[@dudikapanteric1141]

It would be more interesting to see the DNA test of these people, if they are different from the rest of the Greece.

[@Dinosaur315]

They arent that different. Sure, Greeks generally have genetic heterogeneity because of isolation, genetic drift and to some extent mixing with other people, but despite this we are still closely related. Nevertheless, tsakonians are genetically almost identical with other peloponnesians.

[@s.papadatos6711]

I swear to god, at some point I think he speaks modern Greek backwards. 😂

[@denifuga5750]

Diskoli profora

[@songiotayo1302]

Sounds Spanish to me😅