American giving a 12-minute speech in Ancient Greek in Delphi Greece: "Learning from a Living Voice"

[@asicdathens]

My grandfather who was teaching HS ancient Greek (and modern Greek) for 4 decades would have loved this. He had in his library all known works of classical and hellenistic Greek

[@nikostheofanidis9970]

This is wrong, if you want to speak Ancient Greek, you have to use the Ancient Greek pronunciation. The ancient Greeks had a different accent from the one we have today's Greeks. Type Podium-Arts Aristotle and watch the video (11 minutes long) to hear what ancient Greek was like (a Greek speak in the video)

[@asicdathens]

@@nikostheofanidis9970 There is no definite A.G pronunciation. We have no direct evidence. Only fragmentary hints

[@nikostheofanidis9970]

@@asicdathens We have proof. Some ancient Greeks had written works (books) on how to pronounce some letters correctly. Like Dionysius of Halicarnassus (Διονύσιος αλικαρνασσεύσ), this man has written about the letters π τ κ, β δ γ, φ θ χ.

[@nikostheofanidis9970]

@@asicdathens Him one in the video I told you to watch, does not use the Erasmian accent, but the ancient Greek accent based on the writings of the ancient Greeks. And yes it is similar to the Erasmian pronunciation, which means Erasmus was right about some, and bravo to him

[@PoetryLovers-4u]

Ευχαριστώ για την εξαιρετική ομιλία σας! Πρέπει να έχετε βάλει πολύ δουλειά σε αυτό. Και μου αρέσει η προσέγγισή σας να μαθαίνετε τα αρχαία ελληνικά ως ζωντανή γλώσσα. Συνέχισε έτσι φίλε μου!

[@jimmypellas5937]

Brilliant! By listening to this and reading subtitles my understanding of koine Greek has improved. Makes me feel proud of my Greek roots .

[@christopherskipp1525]

Please, how does one obtain the English subtitles? Thank you very much.

[@Ellinisti]

All vowels, vowel digraphs, and consonants are pronounced as in Neohellenic. That means that this speaker uses the Historical Greek Pronunciation (HGP) preserved in Neohellenic (“Modern” Greek). A job well done for a non-Greek speaker.

[@stelvis1984ify]

As a 2nd generation of Cypriot Greek immigrants in the UK, that is only really comfortable speaking the Cypriot dialect of my grandparents' generation. i understand this better than I do modern Greek, of mainland Greece.

[@lefterismagkoutas4430]

Really? We can understand Cypriots just fine and this isn't that hard of a text either to be honest.

[@andrem1403]

Η Ελληνική είναι μια γλώσσα με διαλέκτους.

[@NickFILM17]

As a Cypriot Greek speaker, I agree. I felt more affinity to ancient Greek in this speech.

[@wodzisaww.5500]

@@NickFILM17you are more related to your parent than to your sibling.

[@joshmuller]

Super cool and inspirational. Thanks Ben!

[@NickFILM17]

It's really strange, as a Cypriot Greek speaker I feel more affinity to ancient Greek than modern Greek. It sounds and feels more like Cypriot Greek, in terms of the accent, words used and the way sentences are constructed. Maybe it's due to Mycenaean Greek being pretty isolated in Cyprus until modern times.

[@collisteru]

Fantastic, thank you for the demonstration.

[@stevens1041]

Incredible. This was a joy to listen to

[@tommyhuffman7499]

I'm blown away by the talent here!! Why does KZbin only push talentless hacks. This should have been recommended.

[@PaulNitz]

Ben! Very happy to have stumbled on this. Wonderful message. I especially smiled at the phrasing, Διαπολιτισμική εμπειρία ! As usual, I have to put you on 75% speed to have any chance of comprehension. I think you must be in the top three most fluent koine speakers! What would it look like to have Jordash and Rico and Kantor in the same room. Scary. I hope the modern iaotism was just for this occasion and you haven’t given up on Buth’s Restored Koine. If you did, I’m sure there are scholarly reasons. Gods richest blessing on you, Παύλε. Φίλος σου, Σαυλος.

[@euklidacragas]

Spectacular! Congratulations!

[@panosheineken9062]

1 ωρα ψαχνω στο youtube και βρηκα το καλυτερο. πολυ ωραιος πολυ καλος. ευγε.

[@nikostheofanidis9970]

Λάθος είναι, όταν μιλάς αρχαία ελληνικά πρέπει να μιλάς με τη αρχαία ελληνική προφορά. Οι αρχαίοι Έλληνες είχαν διαφορετική προφορά από αυτήν που έχουμε σήμερα. Γράψε Podium-Arts Aristotle και δες το βίντεο (11 λεπτά είναι) για να ακούσεις πως ήταν (Έλληνας μιλάει στο βίντεο).

[@glossonauta]

​@@nikostheofanidis9970Εξαρτάται από τον χρόνο και τον τόπο. Την εποχή της Κοινής Ελληνικής, πολλοί είχαν ήδη μια προφορά πολύ παρόμοια με αυτή της νεοελληνικής γλώσσας. Ακόμη και κατά την κλασική περίοδο υπήρχαν άνθρωποι με πιο αρχαϊκή προφορά και άλλοι με πιο καινοτόμο προφορά. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aInVlIiCi8ufidk

[@georgepaliozahos2960]

Congratulations great thank you

[@timothygregory685]

Amazing!

[@danieldbdb]

Amazing, friend! I know some things about ancient greek from college (major in history) and came back studying it to read the septuaginta greek bible. Your videos are really great!

[@nikostheofanidis9970]

This is wrong, if you want to speak Ancient Greek, you have to use the Ancient Greek pronunciation. The ancient Greeks had a different accent from the one we have today's Greeks. Type Podium-Arts Aristotle and watch the video (11 minutes long) to hear what ancient Greek was like (a Greek speak in the video)

[@manuelsastre5230]

It's difficult for me to understand because his pronunciation is similar to modern greek, quite different to the one I have studied. But I'm glad I understood some of it

[@archon6437]

But it’s easier for a Greek person like me 😅

[@manuelsastre5230]

@@archon6437 καὶ δύναται ἐμοῦ γιγνοσκεῖν; καλὴ γλῶσσά ἐστιν, ἀλλὰ χαλεπή χαχαχα

[@archon6437]

@@manuelsastre5230 Ορθώς λέγεις. Ἀλλὰ ἡ γλῶσσα οὐχ οἷόν τε δυσχεραίνει τοῖς Ἕλλησι.

[@Hugovika]

so awesome!

[@anactaneustheeleventh2542]

Incredible!!!!

[@Usera2324dfre]

Amazing Ερρωσθε και ευδαιμονειτε

[@nikostheofanidis9970]

Ούτε καν, καταρχάς είναι λάθος. Όταν μιλάς αρχαία ελληνικά πρέπει να τα μιλάς με την αρχαία ελληνική προφορά, όχι με την νεοελληνική. Οι αρχαίοι Έλληνες είχαν διαφορετική προφορά από αυτήν που έχουμε σήμερα. Γράψε Podium-Arts Aristotle και δες το βίντεο (11 λεπτά είναι) για να ακούσεις πως ήταν (Έλληνας μιλάει στο βίντεο)

[@Usera2324dfre]

​@@nikostheofanidis9970 Η προσπάθεια πάντα να επικροτειται , τόσο μάλλον από έναν ξένο , Πάλι ευγε για τον άνθρωπο

[@aseriesoftubes08]

Finally someone speaking it normal and not in a dramatic self-important bad theater acting manner like they're giving a speech in a B movie.

[@rogeliotoledo5821]

ἀλλὰ πόθεν, ὦ λῷστε, τὸ παρὰ φωνῆς οὕτω τῷ ῥήματι μανθάνειν συντεταγμένον; ἐρωτῶ χωρὶς εἰρωνείας, ἀλλὰ τῷ ὄντι βουλόμενός τι μαθεῖν, ἀυτὸς γὰρ οὐδαμοῦ τῶν πάλαι συγγραμμάτων τοιοῦτόν εὕρηκα κείμενον καὶ δὴ καί, καθ’ ὅσον οἶδα (οὕτω γὰρ νουθετεῖ καὶ ὁ Κühner) ὅποθεν μανθάνομεν ἤτοι πυνθανόμεθά τι σπανίως κατηγορεῖται τῶν μὴ ἀνθρώπων διὰ τῆς προθέσεως παρά, τοῦτο οὖν ἐστι, λέγεται τὸ μανθάνειν παρὰ ἀνθρώπου, ἀλλὰ οὐ πολλάκις τὸ μανθάνειν παρὰ ἄλλου τινὸς μὴ ἀνθρώπου ὄντος, οὐδέποτε δὲ παρὰ φωνῆς. διὸ πολλῶ βέλτιον δόξαι ἂν ἔμοιγε λέγειν τὸ μανθάνειν φωνῇ, εἰ δὴ μὴ, τὸ μανθάνειν ἐκ φωνῆς, ἀλλὰ χάρισαί μοι κατὰ σχολὴν διὰ τί τὴν φωνὴν προσωποποιεῖς, εἰ δὴ μὴ πόθεν ἔχεις τεκμαίρεσθαι τοιαύτην συμπλοκήν. τὸ δὲ κλασσικός, ή, όν κεῖται παρὰ τῷ Αὔλῳ Γελλίῳ, ἀλλὰ οὐ μὴν ἐλέγετο εἰ μὴ μέχρι τοῦ 15 αἰῶνός γε, μᾶλλον οὖν δοκεῖ μοι λεκτέον εἶναι τὸ ἐγκεκριμένος, η, ον ὥσπερ ἔλεγον οἱ πάλαι σοφοὶ τῆς Αλεξανδρείας ἐπὶ τῶν βιβλίων, ὧν ἔδει ἀναγιγνώσκειν, κατὰ μεταφορὰν τοῦ στάχυος καὶ τοῦ πυροῦ.

[@rogeliotoledo5821]

"καὶ διὰ τοῦτό μοι δοκοῦσι καλῶς οἱ πολλοὶ λέγειν ἀρίστην εἶναι διδασκαλίαν τὴν παρὰ τῆς ζώσης φωνῆς γιγνομένην" (Galen, On the Properties of Foodstuffs 480. 5-6 ed. Helmreich). ὀρθῶς εἴρηκας, κεῖται γάρ. :)

[@evangelosnikitopoulos]

Fantastic, congratulations! Just a suggestion that the last accent on words with two accents like εἶναί is silent

[@AG02024]

Great work! I wonder how much was intelligible to speakers of Modern Greek. I have heard that they can understand a lot of Koine.

[@acstamos]

All of it!

[@iggo45]

He is saying that old people learned foreign languages from small books having bilingual texts like we do today as tourists looking for the hotels, in the market, or eating at a restaurant. Only a paragraph of what he said while I was typing my answer to you. We understand all of what he says.

[@steveuni90]

It's so not (I'm Greek)

[@iggo45]

@@steveuni90 αν τα ελληνικά σου είναι όπως το αγγλικό it's not so που απλά δεν σημαίνει τίποτα, λογικά δεν καταλαβαίνεις ούτε τι λέει ο άνθρωπος, ούτε τι λέει ο παπάς στην εκκλησία. Το ότι είμαστε Έλληνες δεν σημαίνει ότι γνωρίζουμε την γλώσσα μας, ειδικά αν οι εκφράσεις μας περιοριζονται σε τύπους: 'Τι είπες ρε bro με κούφανες τώρα',

[@steveuni90]

@@iggo45 όχι λέγεται it's so not με το so να δίνει επιπλέον έμφαση στο not. Μένω σε αγγλόφωνη χώρα. Ευχαριστώ

[@michaeltheisen]

Yep. Sounds like folk walking around AC: Odyssey

[@turnage_michael]

When are you going to continue with the Lumo Project?

[@ballsyougothacked5650]

Hi, i am a beginner in koine greek. I have three questions: 1. Which pronunciation do you use for koine greek? 2. When should there be breathing marks? I have looked for an answer to this question but I haven't found an answer yet. And what decided if it should be a smooth or rough breathing mark? 3. What should i learn after the alphabet, vowels, dophtongs, accents and breath marks? Am i ready to start learning words after learning that or is there anything more that i have to learn first?

[@Caralaza]

I didn't make the video (obviously lol), but I'll try to help. 1. Here, he is using Modern Greek pronunciation. In his other videos, he uses a Koine pronunciation similar to Modern Greek, but retaining an older pronunciation of η and υ (sometimes οι sounds like and υ, other times like an ι). 2. There's no discernable pattern when it comes to breathing marks, you just have to look out for them (ἁ rough breathing, ἀ smooth breathing). Unless you're reading manuscripts or using the Vatican Bible that they published, you'll almost always be able to see the breathing marks in your text. If you plan on speaking Koine, just treat the breathing mark as a letter and memorize it along with the rest of the word. The breathings were often ignored/elided in Koine and are non-existant in Modern Greek, so don't worry too much about it. 3. Basic vocabulary is definitely a good start, but I would learn some simple grammar alongside it. Learn about the case system, how it works, and start with the declensions of simple, regular nouns. E.g. ἄνθρωπος "human", masculine noun Singular Plural Nom. ἄνθρωπος ἄνθρωποι Gen. ἀνθρώπου ἀνθρώπων Acc. ἄνθρωπον ἀνθρώπους Dat. ἀνθρώπῳ ἀνθρώποις Voc. ἄνθρωπε ἄνθρωποι This is just my advice.

[@ballsyougothacked5650]

@@Caralaza Ok, thank you so much!

[@dinos9607]

Greek here. It is a general consensus that the modern Greek accent is satisfactory for Koini Greek. Historically speaking the pronunciation of Koini Greek is far closer to the modern Greek pronunciation 2000 years later than to the 5th century BC Attic dialect a mere 500 years before that. The reason is evident : the Attic dialect was a particular sub-dialect of the Ionian dialect (Minor Asian Greek) while Koini Greek emerged out of a mix of Ionian with Dorian (mostly of Macedonian sub-dialect, a fact llittle discussed by "specialists", the very reason why Macedonian dialect is so close to Koini in many aspects). So... pronounce diphthongs with the steamlined modern pronunciation (i.e. with iotacism etc.). Then pronounce H as I (again iotacism). You may however exclude from iotacism the Y which became I quite later on, in mid-late Middle Ages. So I=H=EI=OI but unlike modern Greek where also Y=I yu may want to pronounce it like a French U if you wanted to be more historically accurate. My advise though is to just go with the modern accent on that. On breathing marks... LOL! Ignore them! These were already historical by the time of the Roman Empire. In fact they were invented at the times right after Alexander the Great's death precisely because Greeks, by then forming the Koini, were fast changing their accent. As such they were denoting the pronunciation of the classical Attic, for the most, dialect of the 5th century BC considered as "the correct one". The only thing you should pay attention (under penalty of death!) is the oxeia and perispomene (short and long emphasis - but you can go short on both like modern Greeks for ease or really try to stick to the difference as more historically correct). The rest (especially the daseia which denoted the "english-H" aspirated sound, already gone by the times of Plato, LOL!), just ignore because they are historically wrong for Koini.

[@lufknuht5960]

If you use modern Greek pronunciation on Koine Greek, you will have about 8 different vowels & vowel combinations all spoken the same. This really fouls up learning. Each vowel should be given it own proper & unique pronunciation. So stay away from modern Greeks doing New Testament. This is unfortunate, since IMHO the best Greek scholars I have know were modern Greeks. I have a master's degree in Greek. Go find a site on internet which uses different sounds for each vowel. As to the breathing marks, you should use the rough breathing & pronounce an h sound before vowels that have that mark over them, though the modern Greeks have lost the pronunciation of rough breathing marks. The smooth breaking marks were invented by an idiot, as the only purpose they have is to confuse you with the rough. They should never be printed, but who can stop the NT publishers from using them. They are not original to the text, but have become conventional. Presumably the Greeks pronounced the h sound before some works & not before others, & somebody got around to recording this with the rough breathing mark, though Greeks had not bothered to write them.

[@lufknuht5960]

@@dinos9607 The modern Greeks may have a consensus not to use the ancient pronunciation of Greek, but their own miserable itacism, but don't call that any general consensus.

[@Nehmi]

Can Modern Greek speakers understand Koine Greek with a modern accent with no problem or are there differences?

[@tsiaa6790]

koine greek is completely understandable to a modern greek speaker.Especially with modern greek pronoucition. It becomes more difficult though when we go to homer....

[@ΒασιλείατῶνῬωμαῖων]

@@tsiaa6790 Fully understandable? Not quite. I would say about like 50% of it is. The pronunciation is different, and 50% of the vocabulary spoken in Koine differs from modern Greek, which also incorporated much more Latin vocabulary during Roman times than it does in modern Greek after it was "cleansed" in the 19th century. That said, an appreciable amount of Koine can be understood by a modern Greek-speaker, which is rather astounding, frankly. And of course, Koine's grammer is much more complex, having infinitives and complex declensions that do not exist in modern Greek any longer.

[@lefterismagkoutas4430]

​@@ΒασιλείατῶνῬωμαῖωνlmao did you really only understand 50% of the text? I'd say it's closer to 80-90% for most Greek speakers. The vocabulary is mostly intelligible too, I really don't know what you are on about in regards to what I can only guess is a bad rant about katharevousa. Overall koine Greek is very understandable by modern Greeks.

[@ΒασιλείατῶνῬωμαῖων]

@@lefterismagkoutas4430 You are not telling the truth. Koine Greek, spoken in its true reconstructed form contains vocabulary and grammar which are alien to modern Greek. Add in the true pronunciation as it was back then, and it becomes a huge hurdle. There are videos here on YT whereby modern Greeks are given Koine Greek and they struggle to decipher the meaning.

[@romankolyuka8153]

What is a difference between classical ancient Greek (Attic dialect) and Koine Greek?

[@MrKoalaburger]

Common vs academic. Think of what a PhD thesis looks like VS a 9th grade book report.

[@MrKoalaburger]

But in ancient terms of course lol

[@lufknuht5960]

Koine & classical Greek are different languages. Attic is one ancient dialect in which most of our Greek literature exists. I consider koine as the result largely of Alexander the Great's army having all these soldiers speaking different dialects & melting it together. What I think they came up with is mostly Attic Greek, but with the special peculiarities of Attic lost. A person who learns koine Greek today, will not be able to read Classical Greek, though probably somebody who masters Classical Greek will be able to read koine. I explain that as by the fact that Classical Greek has a lot more morphology than Koine, paradigms lost to the later age. Koine Greek is the language of the NT, which also makes it easier to read for those familiar with the NT in English. I don't consider koine as inferior to Attic Greek in any way, just a different language, & not as complex in its morphology.

[@nikostheofanidis9970]

This is wrong, if you want to speak Ancient Greek, you have to use the Ancient Greek pronunciation. The ancient Greeks had a different accent from the one we have today's Greeks. Type Podium-Arts Aristotle and watch the video (11 minutes long) to hear what ancient Greek was like (a Greek speak in the video)

[@vasilioshatciliamis2067]

@@nikostheofanidis9970 but this is not classical greek it is koine greek. The reconstructed koine greek has a different pronounciation than classical greek, it sounds a bit more modern like it was spoken that era. If you listen carefully you will hear the difference from modern, like the υ, η and οι sounds.

[@kratos1646]

Lol I understand almost everything .. Youbshouod apply for greek citizenship friend as a philelene

[@DimEst19xx]

Εχω μεινει αναυδος.

[@Chalkaspis]

Quite good for a foreigner.

[@konstantinostselios1129]

Καλός

[@nikostheofanidis9970]

Λάθος εννοείς, αφού αρχαία ελληνικά μιλάει πρέπει να τα μιλήσει με την αρχαία ελληνική προφορά, όχι με την νεοελληνική. Οι αρχαίοι Έλληνες είχαν διαφορετική προφορά από αυτήν που έχουμε σήμερα. Γράψε Podium-Arts Aristotle και δες το βίντεο (11 λεπτά είναι) για να ακούσεις πως ήταν (Έλληνας μιλάει στο βίντεο)

[@konstantinostselios1129]

@@nikostheofanidis9970 ναι ένταξη συμφωνώ

[@shaddyshokralla3002]

This is using the modern pronunciation, no? For example the theta is pronounced 'th'. How would this sound using Ancient Greek pronunciation?

[@nathanbinns6345]

I believe he is using a reconstructed koine pronunciation from around the biblical era. For example you will notice that υ and οι are pronounced like a French 'u' and not like ι as in modern Greek). By the 1st century CE the pronunciation of θ, φ and χ had changed to be pronounced the way that I think they still are today. in, say, Plato or Aristotle's day, the θ would have been and aspirated plosive (like the t in 'top'), and τ would have been unaspirated (like the t in 'stop'). This difference is nightmarishly hard for most people to hear and produce unless their own language also has the same distinction, so it is a blessing for modern students of the language that it eventually changed.

[@diachronix4564]

@@nathanbinns6345 No, this is Modern Greek pronunciation, which was used specifically for this occasion for the Greek public.

[@nikostheofanidis9970]

This is wrong, if you want to speak Ancient Greek, you have to use the Ancient Greek pronunciation. The ancient Greeks had a different accent from the one we have today's Greeks. Type Podium-Arts Aristotle and watch the video (11 minutes long) to hear what ancient Greek was like (a Greek speak in the video)

[@procrustes7669]

@@nikostheofanidis9970 ROFL Type Podium-Arts Aristotle is 100% GARBAGE erasmian pronunciation that sounds retardish-barbaric and butchering every diphthong in existence. THIS IS NOT HOW ANCIENT GREEK sounded like...the closest thing to ancient Greek is KOINE GREEK! TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.

[@ΒασιλείατῶνῬωμαῖων]

Yes, this is using modern Greek pronunciation. His other works utilize the standard Koine Greek pronunciation. It made it easier for a modern Greek-speaker to understand his speech.

[@Luigi-l8u]

Very nice, even though the pronunciation is that of modern Greek … Attic sounded different

[@vasilioshatciliamis2067]

But this is koine not attic. So he is probably using reconstructed koine pronounciation for the era koine was used (pronounciation was closer to modern at that time).

[@atlantic_love]

@@vasilioshatciliamis2067He still wouldn't really know what it sounded like.

[@JerriMake]

Φίλε λίγο την προφορά

[@84Mhmuthos.]

ἔρχοντε στιγμές αἵς διερωτᾶμαι, ποῖοι είσίν οἱ ἕλληνες; οἱ ἐν ἑλλάδι κατοικοῦντες ἤ οἱ ἐν τῇ οἰκουμένῃ ἑλληνίζοντες; αὐτό, δέν τὸ μετέδωσε κανένα κανάλι.

[@lefterismagkoutas4430]

I'd say that the Hellenes are well, the Hellenes, we are an ethnic group and a nation that is very much alive with our culture and traditions. Calling anyone who studies ancient Greek a hellene would be funny.

[@HCRAYERT.]

Kantor

[@SkyDarmos]

He doesn't use the old reconstructed pronunciation. Less interesting this way.

[@jskokonas]

But easier to understand for those that speak modern Greek. So, it accomplishes the function of a language much more effectively this way.

[@digitaldaemon74]

@@jskokonas agreed it all depends. if you are doing an academic reconstruction the older pronunciation is good. My limited understanding is that its all an educated guess. We had multiple dialects of Greek that evolved through the centuries. At least the modern methodology is one continuous language. Speaking in modern Greek pronunciation adds vitality and great for Greek speakers who are learning ancient Greek and vice versa.

[@lefterismagkoutas4430]

its pretty close to late koine greek, i don't get why you find it less interesting.

[@SkyDarmos]

@@lefterismagkoutas4430 Because he uses the modern pronunciation. All letters sound different in the real ancient tongue.

[@SkyDarmos]

@@lefterismagkoutas4430 Dude, I am talking about the pronunciation, not the spelling. If you want to speak ancient, then you have to change the pronunciation of almost every letter radically.

[@lufknuht5960]

This is a big disappointment for me. I would love to hear koine Greek spoken by someone who went to considerable effort to be able to speak it & not just read it. Unfortunately, it looks like what I have found is somebody imposing modern greek pronunciation on Koine Greek, where you have about 8 different vowels or vowel combos all pronounced the same, like iota; ITACISM, the curse of modern Greek. You don't know whose it is because our & your (plural) sounds the same, moan. The way the ancients learned Greek & Latin is same as how we learn English; little children simply absorb the language & use it naturally. They speak it as you ride a bicycle. You have no idea what our body is going with steering wheel to keep you upright. Your brain is making all these adjustments, as it does when you walk, which require no thought. Children use all the complicated Grammar expertly without having a clue as to what they are doing.

[@KoineGreek]

Sorry it is a disappointment for you. The conference required the speech to be written out in advance as timing and proofing in advance was important. I used Modern Greek pronunciation here out of respect for the audience, since I was in Greece. Normally, I use a historical restored Koine Greek pronunciation that would have been current in the late Roman period. If you want to see videos where I am speaking Koine Greek extemporaneously and not reading, there are many of these on my channel. See, for example, the κοινη εν κανταβριγια series, my Koine Greek interviews, or the Koine Greek video blog. None of these are read from a script, though I may have some notes when I give a 20-30 minute lecture in Koine Greek. But all in all, you can find probably about 3.5 HOURS worth of video of me and and others speaking Koine Greek extemporaneously in interviews, classes, video blogs of my day, hiking in Delphi, exploring places in England, and giving academic lectures. These are all with a restored Koine Greek pronunciation rather than Modern. Hope this helps!

[@valoeo]

Ignorance and bygotry, I would say this to you. There is no curse in any modern languages, and you are just a troll who doesn't know linguistics. You must understand Koine Greek is not YOUR language. Your mom has a crazy baby like you, maybe that is a curse. The modern greek pronunciation is not so "modern", as the Romaioi used it for over a thousand years since Byzantine times. Itacism is because of the natural evolution of language. In early hellenistic times, the sound of ει already became same as ι, then in later Roman time η and ι are homephonic, so it was Kyrie eleison not Kyrie eleeson. Then οι and υ became homophones that's why υ was called υ ψιλον by Byzantines. This is tradition, not imposition. No one complains about why somebody would impose modern English pronunciation on Shakespeare. Come out and speak. Dont leave just by talking nonsense.

[@PterarchosAeroporias525]

@@KoineGreek You did an outstanding job here even if your speech relied on modern pronunciation, which is not a problem either way because Koine pronunciation is still understood by a modern Greek-speaker; it is very close. I think that most folks are impressed! Εις το επανιδείν, φίλε.

[@lefterismagkoutas4430]

Noone tries to impose it, but this pronounciation is almost the same as that of late koine greek. I don't get why there are people who have such a big problem with that or why iotacism is a "curse". This sound mostly like a person who has a gruge on literally noone but himself and tries to make a non existent point. You can use any pronounciation you see fit, just let all other people do the same.

[@SarahRoseStiles]

Your accent is too modern.

[@lefterismagkoutas4430]

it would have been almsot like that from late koine, i don't get why this is bad

[@SarahRoseStiles]

We can only make guesses as to what vocal timbral quality or intonation of sentences would occur in ancient languages. Perhaps more nasal, guttural, or dark vocal qualities; or intonation more flat, or fragments that descend rather than ascend. How many different dialects could have exited in ancient Greek ?

[@lefterismagkoutas4430]

​​@@SarahRoseStileswe have a pretty good idea of when most changes happened. Late koine would be pretty close to modern Greek, it would actually be inaccurate to use for example attic pronunciation for this text. Once again, this seems like a very misdirected comment that knows little about the topic.

[@SarahRoseStiles]

@@lefterismagkoutas4430 There's pronunciation, and then there's intonation, timbre, and pacing. How would anyone know what it sounded like when there are no recordings. The same issues come about in musicology.