Apple Music's Top 100 Albums of All Time is a Disaster | Reaction

[@cmonman3639]

Why is Joe constantly referring to the Rolling Stone list as if Rolling Stone were still a meaningful publication?

[@catsofsherman1316]

I can't remember when RS wasn't trash.

[@stevemalek2970]

The RS list of the past while not great was a lot better, current RS list is not much better than Apple's list.

[@kahnlives]

@@stevemalek2970I agreed, the last RS list give “What’s Going On”:the top spot, what a joke.

[@i_kill_for_zardoz]

It's a sign of our age. When we were all growing up it was a big deal and much more relevant . The same could be said for print media like the New York Times or cable new like CNN. But that was decades ago, and these businesses are a pale shadow of their former statue. KZbinrs routinely draw in larger numbers than CNN shows. Every time I rewatch "Almost Famous" it reminds me of how big a deal RS was back in the 70s. Most of the old icons are gone, and replaced by millennials and zoomers with a very limited scope of context to pull from. For them "the classics" are record from the 90s lol.

[@spaghettioverlord3247]

@@kahnliveswhat’s going on is great though. That’s definitely one of the better picks on there.

[@anonymohipp9097]

Wow. No Sly and at the Family Stone, no Smokey Robinson, no Supremes, no James Brown, no Grand Master Flash, no Elvis Costello, no Who, no real punk, no Wish you were here, no shoegaze, no Sticky Fingers, no Eno, no Jeff Beck. No thank you.

[@psychedelicpiper999]

No “Piper at the Gates of Dawn”.

[@murdockreviews]

I thought it was really, really hard to come up with a list that makes even less sense than the one from Rolling Stone magazine, but Apple really put an effort into it and succeeded. Some absolutely ridiculous choices and placings.

[@tcanders123]

Winning a Grammy has never meant anything. Look at the list of Best New Artists, they're almost 100% crap, most never heard from again.

[@mainzergirl9610]

Forty of these albums should not have sniffed a Top 100 list.

[@tunanorth]

A simple solution for Apple would have been to make the list "Since 1980", or even "Since 1990". The last 44 or even 34 years gives ample choices without disrespecting the OG's.

[@ChazeGeyer]

Point ON, differentiate periods of Pop music and the genres that dominated those periods.

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

Even then it would still be a terrible list.

[@chrisdelisle3954]

So, there's not: 1) Bridge Over Troubled Water 2) Damn The Torpedoes 3) Synchronicity 4) Stone Roses (debut) 5) Van Halen (debut) 6) Odessey And Oracle 7) Beggar's Banquet 8) Blood On The Tracks 9) The Cars (debut) 10) Paranoid or Black Sabbath 11) Moving Pictures 12) Moondance 13) Who's Next 14) Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Ok.

[@maryannappiagyei4277]

Album top 10 1. Kendrick Lamar to pump a butterfly 2. Haim day are gone 3. Florence & The Machine Lungs 4. Paramore After Laughter 5. Paramore Riot! 6. frank ocean channel orange 7. Mac Miller Swimming 8. Sa-roc daughter sharecroppers. 9. rapsody laila's wisdom.

[@johncostigan8747]

I could name 100 metal albums that deserve to be in the list more than the majority presented by Apple. Pathetic. Nice list of overlooked just the same. I could list a thousand. 😜

[@Andrew-bn7rr]

I'm cool with Abbey Road instead of Sgt. Important concept album no doubt.

[@makeadifference4all]

Wish You Were Here, the White Album, Rubber Soul, Never Mind the Bollocks, Talking Book, an early Chicago album.... Funk, soul, and country are underrepresented

[@mainzergirl9610]

​@@makeadifference4all country was UNrepresented. Swift and Musgraves aren't country.

[@haydenelliott6799]

I can't fathom how they can call it "greatest of all time" it should be called "our favorite albums of all time"

[@EF-fc4du]

It's not even that. Its a political album that attempts to make sure no one is offended by not having their favorite music on the list. Just another "diversity, equity and inclusion" effort.

[@ksar98]

​@@EF-fc4du Boy oh boy if you don't like Lauryn Hill then that's fine. But shut the fuck up about this DEI bullshit.

[@tbd407]

The list screams of 'we have to make sure twitter doesn't call us too male, white or out of touch let's make it unassailable on those fronts, once we've got that, we'll sprinkle in some of my Dad's albums'

[@tunanorth]

The Apple Music Board said: "We are making an editorial statement". Another way to say that is: "We hate Rock, and this list proves it".

[@johnr8095]

Their editorial statement is -our taste in music sucks.

[@janpoelkamp4229]

The choices representing rock and metal are lazy. There are tons and tons of albums in those genres that are as good, or better, than the chosen picks. Slayer’s South Of Heaven, Megadeth’s Rust In Peace, Between The Buried And Me’s Coma Ecliptic, Meshuggah’s Catch 33, Faith No More’s Angel Dust, to name but a few.

[@gingertalkshow]

They don’t hate rock, they just didn’t have many rock musicians on their panel in favor of more modern musicians.

[@psychedelicpiper999]

Their picks for rock music, barring a few, are utterly terrible and ignorant.

[@melvinramone2605]

I wonder if the original version of 1989 was what the list makers picked but a higher up made them substitute Taylor's Version so that they didn't piss off Taylor.

[@TastesLikeMusic]

Distinct possibility.

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

Taylor Swift does not belong on this list at all. She deserves to be on a list for top selling artists but musically she is just another bland pop star that is popular only because of her hype and fans. Nothing she does musically makes her an all time great

[@iIIiteratex]

I'm just glad that the list is finished so that the discourse around it finally stops flooding every social media website I use. No hate towards you guys btw, this video was very reasonable and not overly dramatic like what I've seen everywhere else. Maybe I'm just getting old and apathetic, but I don't get why so many people are acting like it's the end of the world when their favorite album is outside of the top 20. At the end of the day it's a meaningless list thrown together by a billion dollar corporation to drive engagement and get people to talk about them. And it definitely worked Personally, my biggest complaints are the exclusion of Black Sabbath and Joy Division/New Order, and Kacey Musgraves being the sole country representation (why is she here but not Johnny Cash?). Also I think it would've been better if they only had 1 entry per artist. Overall, not the best list imo but it could've been worse. Hopefully it turned some people onto some great music that they otherwise wouldn't have known about

[@spookyman5468]

Highly recommend checking out Burial's Untrue. It's tagged as dubstep, but worth noting the definition of the genre shifted radically in the early 2010s. It's nothing like Skrillex or any of those artists. Very cool, dark and subtle. Expertly produced.

[@alexfowler1490]

Oh man, please listen to Untrue by Burial. I’m not sure if it will be either of your cups of tea, but it really is just an incredible album. Really creative use of sampling and a great breakup album

[@jamespatrick74]

its shit

[@markreilly7052]

No Bon Jovi or hair metal, and no corporate country. Pink Floyd, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Rumours and Aja are all there. I can live with this list, but Lauryn Hill at #1 is a head scratcher.

[@RDRussell2]

Thanks for taking the time to go through the list. When Apple unleashed iTunes (2001), with its $0.99-per-song formula, the unintended consequence was the death of the album. The music industry shifted markedly to be a singles-based medium. Yes, singles have always been important, but albums are where artists would strive to make "a big statement." Given this, how can so many from Apple's list be from the last 20 years? (Of course, the irony that Apple invented the album's demise with iTunes can't be lost on anyone.) The other question I'd ask is "how long does it take for an album to be considered a classic? A year? Five years? Ten?" Sure, there's such a thing as an instant classic, but I think albums need time to prove their mettle and stand the test of time. There are albums on this list that are 50+ years old (and many more missing!) that we still discuss to this day. Will we still be discussing Lorde, say, in 50 years time? Lana Del Rey?

[@tcanders123]

The Archies, Partridge Family, Millii Vanilli, etc all sold millions, huge hits ... and total crap.

[@JohannesYtterstrom]

Some thoughts: Why is simplistic rock often higher regarded than technical or heavy? As someone who can appreciate both. I don't get it. I understand that new artists come in. New genres get higher recognition. Different styles come in and out of fashion... But shouldn't quality of the music be main focus? I respect that albums sell lots and I respect that an album invented something... But neither makes them automatically amazing.

[@jamespatrick74]

No Soundgarden superunkown, pearl jams ten, jeff Buckleys Grace or literally ANY Fiona friggin Apple album????

[@collinmurr3207]

Man, the lack of Astral Weeks hurts. So many weird choices but that one is just bonkers.

[@YesNo-yl6ws]

Black Sabbath too

[@TZ61]

Akin to giving a child a telescope and limiting them to a very tiny portion of the universe. I'm embarrassed for them.

[@senorfunball]

So, did rock and roll like not ever happen ? 🫤

[@fourseasons4105]

Stop it, rock has always and still is getting its flowers from all of these lists/articles The top 25 or so literally consists of two Beatles albums, Bowie, Dylan, Nirvana, Fleetwood Mac, Bruce Springsteen, Beach boys and the rest of the list showcases enough other rock artists as well, stop whining

[@jeffbrown4256]

You must be blind

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

Stop the cap 🧢🧢. Any top 100 list with Billie Eilish in it is automatically void. For something as big and influential as Apple music, this list is an embarrassment and clearly a joke to just cater to millennials

[@fourseasons4105]

Some albums I think are missing: Faith no more- Angel dust System of a down- Toxicity Black Sabbath- Sabbath bloody sabbath (or any of their other albums) Dr. Dre- 2001 Iron maiden- Number of the beast Gorillaz- Plastic beach Frank Zappa- Hot rats Gojira- From mars to sirius Aphex Twin- Richard D. James album Devin Townsend- Ocean machine Between the buried and me- Colors Death grips- The money store Herbie Hancock- Head hunters Smashing pumpkins- Meloncoly Korn- Issues

[@TedGrubersky]

Shocked there’s no room for New Kids On The Block, S Club 7, One Direction, Milli Vanilli or the Cheeky Girls’ debut….

[@jamespatrick74]

lFMAO.......

[@unclesavvy-vj9pz]

Another great entertaining video boyz!!! The only critique is to be more clear what you mean when you say higher or lower (I know Jason stopped to clarify a couple times). Higher on the list? Meaning a lower number? Or lower on the list meaning a higher number!!! Confusing I know. Keep up the great work

[@niveketihw1897]

Listen Without Prejudice has some nice cuts on it. What we really need is pop music broken into about 30 categories, and the top 1,000 of all time within each of those 30 categories. 30K total.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

I like this idea. The smaller in scope a list is, the more "accurate" it will be.

[@satorified1612]

- I'd place Off the Wall or Bad over Thriller. - No White Album or The Bends on a top 100 list is ridiculous. - I wouldn't expect these albums to be on there but they're some of my personal favs: English Beat - I just Can't Stop It Fine Young Cannibals - The Raw and The Cooked Built to Spill - Keep It Like a Secret Ariel Pink - Mature Themes Shabazz Palaces - Black Up

[@stevendavid5370]

I don't they got the topic. The topic is the TOP 100 OF ALL TIME! Let me repeat the key words - ALL TIME! There are a few albums that qualify, but the majority are not worthy to be on this list. If you pay Apple for this, you're getting ripped off!

[@andydavis9780]

I Hope you Guys do ur Top 100 Album Soon, The World Need It Now More Than Ever🙏

[@rockjagg1]

Looks like some of those recently fired DEI staff members from colleges got jobs making lists for Apple Music.

[@Mobilitydnb]

Burial - Untrue is regarded as a very influential album, especially in the electronic music scene. Not in my top 100, but I can definitely understand why it would make the list.

[@johnpownall7720]

Sad to see the omission of Who's Next, Led Zep IV, Sticky Fingers (or Exile), Parallel Lines, Imperial Bedroom, Deja Vu (or Harvest maybe), Blonde on Blonde or Blood on the Tracks (better if not more significant than Highway 61), Sergeant Pepper or Rubber Soul (the White Album probably too weird), Unknown Pleasures etc ...but given where we are culturally, and the fact that the list is American, probably not surprising.

[@tunanorth]

The voters likely have literally never listened to any of those. They only included names of albums they absolutely could not get away with leaving off the list. Look at it this way: Taylor Swift ranked higher than Revolver, and all Led Zeppelin albums.

[@joachimb5721]

Exile On Main St is on the list

[@electrafone]

I understand the list makers trying to diversify across the music spectrum but, in my opinion, they produced a list with an abundance of albums that haven't stood the test of time. I mean, there are certainly some true classics here, but there are a bunch of newer records that are really just "safe" choices. A lot of these albums are not particularly original. There's a kind of edginess that the best albums have that may not click with listeners for a few years. Or, it isn't until much later that you realize how original it was for the time and you can see its influences. A lot of these newer records are too recent to have settled in.

[@KipArmadillo]

Yeah, they really need to stop calling these lists "greatest" or "best" of all time. They are the nothing more than the favorite albums of the specific people voting for them.

[@misterspookyman]

A rule of thumb for judging art is give it 15-20 years to see if it stands the test of time. You can't tell while you're living in it. I love The Cure's Disintegration ... but would never have put it on a best of all time list in 1989. That's ridiculous. What's even more ridiculous is 25 rap albums and 1 post punk and 1 metal album. These people live in a very very small internet bubble.

[@Thisisanalt333]

I feel like excusing 15 years of recent music to see its ‘impact’ is a little extreme but yeah recency bias can existing the same way as nostalgia

[@israelalvarez4884]

19:15 Two stars to Dummy ? Really Jason ? Lana del Rey, the Weeknd, Gnars Barkley, Lamb, Hooverphonic, Kanye West will have killed for doing that record

[@edward8597]

"Dummy" is incredible. A five-star album for sure. I'd say it's the third-best Bristol album after "Mezzanine" and "Maxinquaye"... neither of which made the list at all!

[@michelewiese48]

@@edward8597Love all 3, but Dummy is my fave. I was just happy to see trip-hop mentioned at all! There’s never any love shown to Sneaker Pimps/Chris Corner/IAMX period. It’s a cryin’ shame.

[@DB-sd5qw]

- Hotel California ranked at 99 with Usher ranked above it?!?!?! C’mon man, this list is bllsht!!! I’m already out!!!

[@boredofcanada]

Arctic Monkeys one step ahead of Velvet Underground & Nico was a real knee-slapper.

[@Shah-of-the-Shinebox]

If this were my list, VU&N would be number 1

[@Fanged.Fiend.Reactor]

And the fact that they went with that Arctic Monkeys album…

[@Svein-Frode]

Good comments, and I mostly agree. The list is very US centric and very narrow in terms of generes. But, could there ever be a good list? It essentially boils down to personal taste. Attempts at being objective usually fails because facts are hard to find. How do you prove something is more influential than something else for instance? It's all hearsay.

[@MyargonautsJason]

i listened to the podcast each day for each group of 10 albums, and it was clear that they wanted this list to be "modern" and have more records from the past 30 years. They also said they had an agenda to include more Hip Hop and Rap, since they consider that to be the dominant genre from the past 25 years. so it's just not a list for anyone over the age of 30. No Police, Van Morrison, REM, Peter Gabriel, The Who, and no Graceland. Just a crazy list.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

At least they're admitting that they have a bad case of recency bias.

[@frankrogers2968]

The whole thing is pretty bad but the top 20 is just horrendous. Jason made a good point about artists vs. albums. It seems like they chose their favorite artists and then somewhat arbitrarily selected one of their albums to include.

[@ryrythefryguy4645]

yeah, led zeppelin II is a good example there. i would never ever include that one. it isnt even the best zeppelin album. give me I , III, houses of the holy, heck even IV over that one.

[@bengalgangster]

Guess I can't comment on a list where I haven't heard any of the albums lol

[@michelewiese48]

I would never place ‘The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill’ ahead of ‘The Score’ on any list.

[@davidellis5141]

🙋‍♂️ Michele 😊

[@michelewiese48]

@@davidellis5141 Hi David! How was the Slowdive & Drab Majesty show?!

[@davidellis5141]

​@michelewiese48 Played the same set as last year but it's a good set. Missed Drab Majesty ..traffic ..

[@michelewiese48]

@@davidellis5141 That sucks you missed Drab Majesty but I hope you enjoyed Slowdive’s set. Here’s to a fab Memorial Day weekend! 🍻

[@davidellis5141]

​@michelewiese48 You Too ! Welcome To Summer 2024 🌞

[@MMoses87]

No one will ever be completely happy with these lists. They're fun to debate about though. Putting the newer albums on this list is a marketing tool. I remember laughing in the 2000s seeing a mass array of Emo albums being put on these greatest of all-time lists 😂😂 Of course, I knew then what I see now, that Emo wouldn't be recognized in the future.

[@jankoegl]

Love you guys, but I find your persistent and total lack of appreciation for Kraftwerk disturbing: Just put your personal taste aside for one second (you’ve proven that on several occasions*) and at least give them credit for their MASSIVE influence on popular music. Again, myself, I can’t stand Dylan and could never bring myself to put a record of his on for pleasure - but I can acknowledge how damn important he was. Actually, when it comes to influential musical acts, I‘d put Kraftwerk third, behind The Beatles and him. And NO, that’s definitely not national bias talking. 😝 Anyway, everyone out there who feels like I‘m totally wrong, take it up with Andy Edwards here, cos he’s explained all these points way more brilliantly and detailed than I ever could. 😉 *excellent case in point: THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO!

[@walterevans5658]

Kraftwerk is one of the most influential bands ever.

[@TastesLikeMusic]

We’ve made too many concessions over the years. We take kraftwerk to the grave. - Joe

[@TastesLikeMusic]

Kraftwerk are influential in all the wrong ways. Music is worse today because of them.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

Their sound is definitely influential. Melodically, they don't do a whole lot for me.

[@jankoegl]

@@TastesLikeMusic @Joe: Okay, but the next time YOU sir are praising any „delicious bleeps and bloops“, I‘ll be there to say AHA! 🫵🏼

[@maryannappiagyei4277]

Album top 10 1. Kendrick Lamar to pump a butterfly 2. Haim day are gone 3. Florence & The Machine Lungs 4. Paramore After Laughter 5. Paramore Riot! 6. frank ocean channel orange 7. Mac Miller Swimming 8. Sa-roc daughter sharecroppers. 9. rapsody laila's wisdom. 10. frank ocean channel orange 11. the beatles sgt pepper's lonely hearts club band 12. the beatles magical mystery tour

[@kevtruth]

The creators of this list are out to lunch

[@davidellis5141]

Their Pretty Vacant.

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

Apple is out of touch

[@markgatica12]

I hate all these lists. The only list that makes any sense is my own.

[@MrUnclesean]

facts...but I already don't like your list

[@judegraham463]

true, .. true..

[@RobReuter]

@@MrUnclesean lol

[@johnw706]

Hilariously bad . They must be trying to emulate Rolling Stone's formula for making lists , Cheers !

[@gregdale1066]

Those 90s and OOs ( cds ) are to long. If there are 3 throw away songs by definition they cant be anywhere near the top 100

[@fourseasons4105]

Yeah cause the beatles never had any filler, throwaway songs on their albums...

[@harrystylesplaylists5094]

This list is so wild I can't even. How can they be so right but then also so wrong?

[@davidellis5141]

This list lacks respect for history. It's an embarrassment.

[@Thisisanalt333]

I mean this is a bit of an exaggeration. 20 of the albums are from the past 15 years while 23 are from the 90s alone. If anything I’d say this is ever so slightly nostalgia biased with most of the modern picks being purely mainstream aside from Untrue

[@paulh6673]

I can never usually understand the "old man/cloud"-type moaning about all-time album lists, but this Apple one is particularly stupid. I know lists usually try and reflect "what's popular now and how we got here", a bit of revisionism and retrofitting etc; but the desperation is strong with this one. For a while now there's been an almost-complete eradication of punk/post punk & alternative, as well as the squashing down of classic rock, singer/songwriters and so on. I do generally applaud the destruction of sacred cows and anything that annoys grumbly old men like me, but there comes a tipping point where a list is so short-sighted it's of no earthly use to anyone. Also! no Marquee Moon, Maggot Brain, Zen Arcade, Unknown Pleasures, Ramones, Nevermind the Bollocks, White Album, Led Zep 4, Sticky Fingers, Who's Next... No Black Sabbath, James Brown, Leonard Cohen, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Zappa, King Crimson, Creedence, Chuck Berry, no Elvises, no Neil Young... Two albums to represent all of jazz, one for metal, no country...even the wrong Kendrick one. I'd have had more respect if the list was pretty much all exactly as it was, but the top 2 were something completely random like Alice Coltrane's Journey to Satchidananda and Van Halen 1. I could go on but I have already boomered myself to death.

[@EmoBearRights]

Not a rap fan so yup this is bad for me and not in a cool Jackson way.

[@joncumber2020]

Greatest disappointment about the list is its largely US/ UK myopia. This was a golden opportunity to introduce several classic albums/ sounds from around the world to curious listeners but it was largely squandered. Hopefully they course-correct when they do their singles list.

[@HeelSection3825]

Totally agree with Jason about Jagged Little Pill. Most of the singles are great, but the album is pretty meh.

[@ruicorreia3782]

No Black Sabbath, Smashing Pumpkins, King Gizzard, Charles Mingus, Chuck Berry, Funkadelic, the doors, the who, Living Colour, Nick Cave, Lou Reed, Slayer, Frank Zappa, Deep Purple, Fugazi, Jethro Tull, Thin Lizzy, Van Morrison, Iron Maiden, John Lee Hooker, King Crimson, Yes, Dire Straits, Al Green, the Roots, Sepultura, Rush, Ohio Players, Fela Kuti, Ali Farka Toure, Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Prodigy, this list is a great bullshit

[@adamhesketh7369]

Downward spiral is a pretty based pick though i will give the list that .

[@DiegoRobles-ed7im]

Hey guys, I really enjoy your content, its weird to me that you never talk about Days Of The New, I think you should do a deep dive or album ranking, just 3 albums and a Bootleg, I think its really underrated.. greetings from Mérida Yuc, México.

[@TastesLikeMusic]

Im a big fan of Days of the New II - Joe

[@DiegoRobles-ed7im]

@@TastesLikeMusic what about the first one?

[@TastesLikeMusic]

@@DiegoRobles-ed7im The 3rd one is the best one. But I'm not sure how it hold up. -Jason

[@DiegoRobles-ed7im]

Noooooooo Jason!!! First One!!

[@greigmartin4339]

Where in gods name is Tool on these lists? Dark Side of the Moon and Pet Sounds less of a musical achievement than Taylor Swifts best effort! Lauryn Hill, Amy Winehouse and Adele higher than Bob Dylan’s only entry. Hard to stomach that Like a Rolling Stone has less of a pop in modern times than Frank frikkin Ocean and his “Nikeeeeeeeeees” These are the new dark ages people! What a disappointment this new millennium has been.

[@D.Boon1]

Terrible list it’s missing Ween - The Pod

[@jeffreypeeling8341]

Yes, as well as Spiderland by Slint and Confusion is Sex by Sonic Youth.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

Yes, and St. Anger by Metallica.

[@canadianstudmuffin]

I love The Pod but hated it on first listen.

[@Onio_]

@@canadianstudmuffin I'm glad you came around.

[@curly_wyn]

It’s all missing Menometrorrhagia’s Extreme Gore Noise Terror 😝😝

[@ryrythefryguy4645]

i hate using the word "woke", but once i waddled through the list, i found it incredibly woke and uninspiring. but oh well. most top 100 lists i just laugh at anyways.

[@takodabostwick8507]

Saying that people don't respect the 60s is very accurate. I'm a Gen Zer and not a lot of them my age would even care about the 60s as much as me. I'm on the minority side of loving music past the 00s. I am very critical for just about everyone. No manner if they are old or young. I criticize everybody. That's just the way I am. Whenever I go to a store with vintage material, I feel like I'm a kid in a candy store. I love seeing old signs of the 50s and 60s and singing Let's Go to the Lobby.

[@rockingbirdey]

As a fellow Gen Zer, I'm the same way. I don't like how a lot of people our age - not everyone but too many - aren't bothering to appreciate the past. I get we should look forward but we got respect the past too. I love music from 60s-present day. Everything from The Beatles, ABBA, Biggie Smalls, The Killers, The Beach Boys, Black Sabbath, Billy Joel, Elton John, Muse, Beyonce, Led Zeppelin, Eminem, Bruce Springsteen, Lady Gaga, The Rolling Stones, Def Leppard, Van Halen, Kanye West, Kendrick Lamar, etc. There's tons of great stuff in every decade (and bad stuff in every decade too).

[@myfriendjoe]

woof is right The List is Simply Click Bait

[@dukeofcurls3183]

burial ABSOLUTELY deserved to be on here

[@gars129]

Even as someone who "gets" Bad Bunny, reducing all of spanish music to him and (in the RS list) just one of the best salsa singers is condescending as hell. Lots of people here are mixed on that album.

[@ghost.3579]

Honestly although some picks were stupid asf(Taylor swift, frank ocean, artic monkeys, etc) it’s not that bad of a list as y’all were making it.

[@TedGrubersky]

I guess this list is based on streaming volumes rather than critical acclaim or quality

[@andg3886]

Appetite for Destruction above any Black Sabbath is mad. I notice on the genres I like that Apple really have dropped the ball here.

[@TastesLikeMusic]

Yeah, metal and hard rock fans need not apply. - Joe

[@jordanpratt3821]

Of all those albums to complain about you pick Appetite?? That's bizarre.

[@andg3886]

@@jordanpratt3821 I pick it as I know that album well as a Rock fan and don’t know the other genres listed. I feel I am only in a position to measure quality on what I know.

[@spencerdobkin9479]

@@TastesLikeMusic we've been cancelled in this new millennium. Future looking scary!

[@rupertx_x1613]

I could see In Da Club and Royals making a top 5000 songs list but to have 50 cent and Lorde make top 100 albums is insane nevermind Solange. Purple Rain in top 4 pretty good but shame about the 99 other terrible calls.

[@michelewiese48]

I think Joe gets too hung up on these two words placed closely together: post and punk. I think he’d enjoy more than he realizes. He is a stubborn fella, that one! Nearly as stubborn as Jason with his anti hip-hop stance. Love you guys anyway! We need a Bob Dylan type series for both of you with the aforementioned genres. Please think about it. James Murphy said: “I Can Change”

[@garrettredd2541]

The list is pretty bonkers to me, however, most of these lists are. However, i guess another way to look at it is - this list may not represent what i like, but maybe there are some albums or genres here that i haven't explored enough - who knows

[@STEVEHEROLD]

“17000 spots too high” should be on a hype sticker on that Solange album from now on

[@walterjanaro42]

It would be fun if you dug up an old "all-time greatest something or other" from maybe the 90s and reacted to that!

[@TastesLikeMusic]

Oh good idea

[@joachimb5721]

I remember an all-time greatest album list from Rolling Stone, 1997 I think. The top three were Highway 61, Pet Sounds and Exile on Main St. I don‘t remember in which order, though.

[@walterjanaro42]

@@joachimb5721 Yes, it would be fun to hear a "thirty years later" reaction -- like what albums shouldn't have made the list back then or what newer albums that were added to the list back then have lost favor over the years, etc. etc. etc.

[@justsignmeup911]

Besides a few silly choices like 1989 I thought it was an interesting list. I'm fine with its recency bias. I'm tired of all-time lists where half of the albums are boomer rock.

[@BlunderCity]

Except that boomer rock is clearly the height of popular music, even eclipsing the post war jazz revival. It's by far the most relevant period in popular music. 80s pop and the 2010s hip hop domination is also culturally relevant but musically poor.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

This is a list about albums, and rock 'n roll is the genre that INVENTED the album. Rock did the LP format the most justice. Rap/hip-hop is more of a singles genre than it is an albums genre. It's like making a list of the greatest astronomers and leaving out Galileo Galilei because you're tired of reading his name.

[@danmayberry1185]

If you are of a certain era, the very name, "Apple Music" is offensive. Apple music was on Apple Records: Badfinger, Billy Preston, James Taylor and Mary Hopkin .. and some other band.

[@ryrythefryguy4645]

yeah, but the founders of apple were influenced by the beatles and the apple label when launching their computers.

[@ChazeGeyer]

iPhone 14 is now fractured! Seemed political to me, love Rap but felt a little over represented, BB King, Muddy Waters? As list evolved expected Bad Bunny ,Harry Styles in Top 10😂

[@suartgilmour4540]

Giving Dummy anything less than 4 stars is dumb. Stuart

[@HeelSection3825]

It's a REALLY tough choice, but I think that Abbey Road is my favorite Beatles album.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

Mine, too. I migrated to that position over a period of a couple decades. If you'd asked me when I was young, I would've said Sgt. Pepper's or Revolver.

[@HeelSection3825]

@@AbbeyRoadkill1 Yeah. I'm a second generation Beatles fan. My Mom turned me on to then while I was literally still in the womb. Over the years, my favorite album has constantly rotated between Pepper, The White Album, and Abbey Road. At 47, I think that Abbey Road is pretty firmly locked into the number one spot.

[@edward8597]

It's the *sound* of that album. Maybe the best-sounding album ever, and heads and shoulders above every other Beatles album, sonically. Alas, Maxwell.

[@HeelSection3825]

@@edward8597 Agreed. Y'know it was brand new recording technology at the time.

[@EvolvingSkies]

I understand the outrage for Blond but it’s my personal favorite album of all time. I’ve listened to probably thousands of albums at this point so I’m not just saying this based on a small sample size but, this is a very important album. It has influenced nearly every R&B album since its release and countless hip hop albums as well. It is very important album on identity, nostalgia, and letting go. It might not be for you guys but in terms of impact, it’s very high relative to many other albums on this list and there’s a reason that it has cultivated such a cult fan base for him. I initially didn’t like it as much as channel orange either but it has grown on me significantly since (obviously) because on repeat listens, nearly every song can grab you and become a favorite (aside from the interludes). It’s a groundbreaking album and will age extremely well. You can go check rate your music or something for better explanations but even there, where a much more wider audience exists and votes on things, has it in near the top 50 from tens of thousands of votes so it’s probably more it’s just not for you and not that it’s just an okay album

[@TastesLikeMusic]

Any influence this album had was a huge negative and the fact that he hasn’t released anything since. The dude is washed. - Joe

[@EvolvingSkies]

@@TastesLikeMusic you guys are unserious people if that’s your take lol I guess I was really scraping the absolute bottom of KZbin; you can just not like the album and at the same time understand why others adore it He was gearing up to release an album in 2020 and then his brother passed away although, there is no obligation to release another album or have that in some way affect your opinion of a prior album. This just feels like some deep hatred or something lol. Drop the hubris, it’s an ugly and pathetic look, especially at your age

[@drdavid1963]

I think it's time you guys did a corrective top 100 albums and it can't all be Jason's songwriters nor can it be Joe's metalheads. But you have plenty of solid picks in your AOTYs to compile a compelling list. As for Apple? Well, it's defined by today's musical taste and who SHOULD be included. You mentioned a lot of artists missing - I would like to add The Pixies, The Stone Roses Nick Drake, Queen, Lou Reed, Prefab Sprout, Todd Rundgren, John Lennon, Supertramp, Pearl Jam. There's way too many rap albums. In fact, not that many white artists of the 21st century apart from the commercially successful ones (Lady Gaga, Lana Del Ray, Taylor Swift, Adele, etc...). Arctic Monkeys and The Strokes are the only white male artists from the 21st century. I could go on but I shouldn't be surprised.

[@ladariusmcdonald]

This list was a doozy. I feel like Hounds of Love is going to end up on so many greatest albums of all time lists without the Stranger Things connection because it's such a quintessential art pop album, setting the standard for modern day neurotic, artsy female singer/songwriters. I remember several years ago pitchfork gave it a perfect 10 score and rolling stone ranking it at the top 70 of their 500 greatest albums list. When I saw Drake at number 47 on this list, I was like "Over Kate Bush?! haha" because he's more of a singles artist than an album artist.

[@stephenlundgren8899]

If I were Apple I would of tried to make the top ten where different generations would be happy and can’t be argued like having a Led Zeppelin beetles prince mj stevie wonder but then adding modern albums like nirvanas nevermind Kendrick’s tpab ok computer and Illmatic

[@mjhbuckeye]

Nevermind is over 30 years old now which hardly makes it modern

[@stephenlundgren8899]

@@mjhbuckeye maybe modern wasn’t the best term but with this list you get something from different decades

[@debbiemcnamara7059]

Maybe Google, General Electric, Tesla, General Motors, and Mercedes should put a list out.

[@adamhesketh7369]

Hot take but queen is dead is not the best smiths album . I’m a huge smiths fan and it’s probably the one I return to the least . Never had no one ever is a really mediocre song and although the rest of the album is incredible , queen is dead being one of the best openings to any album ever followed by the wonderful frankly mr shankly and then followed up by one of the best smiths songs ever recorded i know its over . cemetary gates is a pefect song but then being followed by never had no one ever completely kills the flow of the album for me even though its picks up in the second half with the incredible singles , my favourite being the boy with the thorn in his side . i just think the smiths debut is a much better album experience in every single way . reel around the fountain is the best smiths songs theyve ever written and that opening drum beat by mike joyce is incredible its just an otherwordly song the way johnnys guitar intertwines with morrisseys vocals is utter perfection . and the album contains way better singles than the queen is dead with them being this charming man , hand in glove and what difference does it make . and the album resolves way better with suffer little children the it does with some girls are bigger than others . lets be honest some girls has one if the best guitar riffs ever recorded but are utterly undermined by morrissey's pointless lyrics about the varying sizes of women , like really is that the best lyrics he could come up with for that 😂 suffer little children is the perfect closing song as it conveys such a haunting but beautiful message honouring the children who died on the moors of Manchester. i dont see why all the hype is around the queen is dead when the debut is far superior.

[@TastesLikeMusic]

I would say you’re alone on that album. Even more so when their best song (This Charming Man) isn’t even on it. - Joe

[@michaelbushell4356]

What an appalling list! Number 1 is a joke. It does make one valid point though: you guys need to get your heads around the importance of Kraftwerk. How many of the albums on that list were influenced by the crazy German guys? Joy Division weren’t on the list. Shame! 😊

[@TastesLikeMusic]

Joy Division missing the list was a rare W for Apple. - Joe

[@f4gsforpele]

How exactly is The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill at #1 a joke? 💀 bffr

[@ryrythefryguy4645]

thats the same thing i said. kraftwerk's computer world or man-machine. TEE is overrated in my book. these guys influenced everyone from brian eno and bowie to iggy pop, to joy division, to new order, to depeche mode, to dr dre and the arabian prince in their electro-funk era of NWA, to daft punk, to U2, to many hiphop artists in the 80s and 90s, to dance, to techno, to electronic, to alternative bands, new wave, etc.... they are incredibly and criminally underrated as far as the influence they had on pop, alternative and dance music.

[@steveningram3732]

Where are… Simple Minds? Pixies? King Crimson? New Order? Lloyd Cole? Mingus? The Band? The Sex Pistols?? It’s a ridiculous list.

[@JimSteele-ck5vu]

No Whitney Houston , Celine Dion , Diana Ross ,And Supreme ,Who Queen. Rem.Heart.Doors

[@jonathanmarcus7763]

Burual - Untrue, Portishead - Dummy are very important cultural records in the UK. As a music teacher I can tell you the amount of students who are inspired by these artists is very high, and trip hop is having a revival at the moment so I can see their relevance on this list.

[@TastesLikeMusic]

Fair enough

[@TastesLikeMusic]

I guess. But trip-hop is pretty much a non-starter for me. Anything with a glitchy beat goes right in the waste bin. -Jason

[@Hi85C]

@@TastesLikeMusic Maybe it would be better to have the channel as strictly covering rock, folk and country. When doing these kinds of videos, you could just cover the entries that relate to these genres and omit the rest.

[@jonathanmarcus7763]

@@TastesLikeMusic But it's not all glitchy, there is mix of real instruments recorded live in the studio and samples. I'm not even a huge Portishead fan but I heard the live at NY album and contextually it made a lot more sense to me. There is a Radiohead interview (my fav band) where they said Dummy was the main inspiration for 'Airbag' the opener from 'OK Computer.' You can also here the trip hop influence on 'Exit Music (for a film)' and 'Climbing Up The Walls'. Portishead's drummer also tours live with 'Radiohead.'

[@adamhesketh7369]

And how is apple ranking these ? Is it by influence , popularity , critical acclaim I don’t understand . Some inclusions on here are very misplaced . Blond at number 5 ? Come on

[@edward8597]

I don't think it's *that* bad of a list. Yeah, what it's missing is egregious, but apart from a few absolute head-scratchers, a lot of the more left-field choices I actually agree with. I wouldn't put "Miseducation" at number one, but top ten for sure. And I'm glad to hear at least one other human say that "Blonde" is a marked step down from "Channel Orange". It really blows my mind how everyone seems to see it the exact opposite.

[@TastesLikeMusic]

Blond is atmospheric, emo and downbeat so people think that equates to a better record. - Joe

[@ijeff2005]

I can't think of an appropriate word to describe how bad this list is.

[@TastesLikeMusic]

Really really really bad. - Joe

[@BlunderCity]

I'm surprised Queen didn't make the list. Apple music skews younger but if there is one Boomer band that remains extremely popular with the cool kids, it's probably Queen.

[@edward8597]

That's a good point. But Queen don't really have a five-star album, do they? I guess "Night at the Opera" would be the one to include, but it's just as hit-or-miss as every other album of theirs.

[@f4gsforpele]

It’s Fleetwood Mac, who almost made the top 10

[@jasongaylor2232]

@@edward8597 Queen 2 is one of the greatest albums of all-time. Definitely five star. Sheer Heart Attack is really strong too. Actually they might have the most consistent seven album run throughout the 70's.

[@ryrythefryguy4645]

@@jasongaylor2232 does rolling stone even put any queen albums on their top 100? maybe a night at the opera?

[@jasongaylor2232]

@@ryrythefryguy4645 I'm not sure. BUT I never go to "Rolling Stone" when it comes to music. They've always been out of touch.

[@Jamie-kv9eg]

Glad you guys are talking about this. Farcical list but that’s not unexpected. Genuinely cringed as i was scrolling down it.

[@Vanessa.P]

Love a good list roast and this one deserves it. They got their engagement which is all they really wanted at the end of the day. So many weird exclusions here along with some baffling inclusions (50 Cent, wtf?). I understand that they are aiming to attract a younger audience so that it why this list is the way that it is but you're right, the exclusion of shoegaze is really strange with that in mind. Also as usual, the country and metal disrespect is nauseating. Sure it's pointless to get uptight about because it's ultimately irrelevant but it sure is fun to talk shit about anyway.

[@Captain_Rhodes]

Lauren Hill wasn't that good when it came out and it isn't that good now. Its main merit was that it was surprisingly good for a Fugees solo side project. That's it. Now its the greatest album of all time....

[@debbiemcnamara7059]

Apple Music should never make list of best anything, period.

[@martinfarnworth6659]

Lists are shit really aren't they? Either predictable sacred cows or inclusions that annoy people.

[@brettg1695]

Has Apple ever listened to Blondie's Parallel Lines? Seems like a glaring omission, I feel the young folk still like that album and it's a 10/10 for most critics and audiences.

[@nikosvault]

The kids are coming....for our lists!