Liszt - Piano Concerto No. 3, S125a Op posth. (Jandó)

The story of this Concerto's resuscitation is a classic case study in musical archaeology, involving widely dispersed manuscripts (East/West Germany, Russia), misidentifications by library cataloguers, long slow work and elements of pure chance. The work, tentatively dated from 1839, was identified and assembled from the multiple sources by Jay Rosenblatt in 1989, a feat which required a considerable degree of detective work. Being in the key of E-flat major caused careless archivists at some undetermined time in the past to mistake some of the manuscripts for an early or rejected version of the composer's first Concerto (in the same key) but it soon became evident that the score was a self-contained composition in one movement. Looking through Rosenblatt's research shows that Liszt did in fact refer to this Concerto alongside his other two (a letter to a publisher from 1839 requests: "Be so good as to have Carl send to me in Pest as soon as possible the Maometto Fantasie and three scores (accompaniment to three new piano concertos [of my] composition).") however there is no evidence that any performance of the work took place, and we will probably never know whether Liszt abandoned the work or, as Rosenblatt suspects, just never got around to the planned revision.
In composing the concerto, Liszt used thematic material from works composed during the 1820s; he wrote to his mother in 1836 to send him copies of some of his earliest published compositions: two sets of Variations, the Allegro & Rondo di bravura and the early set of Études (Opp 1, 2, 4 and 6). These last became the basis of the Douze Grandes études, and three of the other works provided material for the present concerto (the reworking of compositions from over a decade earlier may be seen as marking a new beginning for the 27 year old composer).
The concerto is in a form dear to Liszt: a concert Allegro with interpolated slow movement and a coda in the character of a scherzo, with many recitative-like musings at the structural divisions. The opening presents the principal theme-derived from the Allegro di bravura, but in the guise of an introduction with cadenzas. The reappearance of the orchestra indicates the movement proper, and a triplet motif borrowed from the Rondo di bravura leads to the full statement of the principal theme in E flat minor (and despite the variety of key signatures, this concerto really is in E flat minor rather than major). The music makes its way to D major and a martial second theme which never reappears, and thence to a development section which breaks off with a short cadenza and leads to the slow movement in G flat major, whose theme is adapted from the one which Liszt had first composed for his Opus 1 Variations. The development resumes in F sharp minor and the shortened recapitulation of the first theme follows; the coda, finally in E flat major, is a scherzando transformation of the first theme with interpolated references to the slow movement.
Overall, the work's thematic transformation is ingenious, the textures exciting (the beginning is strangely like Richard Strauss's 'Burleske,' with timpani participating in the theme) and the thumbprint of that elegant, ironical Lisztian genius is present. For anyone who responds to that, this is a wonderful discovery.
Pianist: Jenő Jandó
Conductor: Lamberto Gardelli
Orchestra: Hungarian State Symphony Orchestra

[@pietrolandri6081]

I think this concerto is so advanced that even Liszt got scared about it and couldn't figure out how to fine tune it and give it a rounded up final shape. And he eventually even forgot to handle it or - God knows - he tried but did not manage. Thus he never played it publicly. Pity because it is not a skeleton but a finished job. But he probably didn't feel it was. Just brainstorming......maybe story is different but we won't know The fact is that it's a wonderful concerto that could have been written easily 50 or 75 years later by someone without being judged a retro piece. But this someone should have been as good as Liszt and that's the problem.

[@ΠαύλοςΚ-σ2ο]

After years of listening to liszt I feel like he's uploaded some pieces

[@kofiLjunggren]

Ga

[@Whaijorhujishkomunyk]

Ga

[@lylecohen1638]

Ga

[@NicholasLay]

Ga

[@ThomasOgrodnik]

Ga

[@thefredericchopin6581]

This concerto is very forward-thinking. As someone else said in the comments, maybe that’s why he was scared or hesitant to finish it. I feel it’s interesting to note the similarities between the theme in the finale and S. 151. Definitely sounds like a cleaned up version of that. Overall, it’s a sublime concerto - shame he never finished it.

[@douwemusic]

Agreed, I was surprised to learn it was such an early work because of how much the beginning sounds like his late style

[@ゆくちゃんLiszt]

@@AlkanLoveさん、この曲のオーケストラ版は、どこで売っていますか？ 2台ピアノ版は、持っているんですけど…

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

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[@guii8993]

the andante maybe is one of the most solid but imaginative ground breaking movements ever written in piano literature, structurally and musically in general, i cannot listen to it without sheding a tear and feeling it ripping out my heart, then bringing it back with those unending angelical passages; Maestro Franz, may you rest in the peace of the musical miracles you wrote.

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

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[@Felix_Li_En]

Beautiful concerto ! Should be played more often !!

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

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[@jerry_moo]

This was composed in 1839? What a mature sound and style for Liszt at this point of time (besides Apparitions, of course)!

[@AlkanLove]

自身の未来が乗り移った様な曲ですね

[@ゆくちゃんLiszt]

@@AlkanLoveさん、ものすごく綺麗な曲

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

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[@venta004]

Thank you for uploading this concerto. After all these years listening to Liszt’s concertos this is an absolute rare gem.

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven. John 3:16 Romans 3:23❤😊❤

[@abadbriman]

It's sad to think I will hardly listen to this concerto live in all my life.

[@ytyt3922]

Some new Liszt material! Thank you very much. As wonderful a discovery as the 3rd Mendelssohn concerto which is likewise almost unknown.

[@christopherT268]

For some inexplicable reason I fall for the chord at 9:38-9:39... beautiful chord ever written!

[@nick__schlobohm-n8d]

11:20 sounds like a fragment of the theme from Liszt's sonata!

[@PianoForFun]

Also at 2:59

[@ValzainLumivix]

Indeed

[@DaGuys470]

Just what I thought

[@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji]

​@@PianoForFun indeed!

[@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji]

I agree, it also seems to be used in Valee d'Obermann, I suppose.

[@classicalhero7]

Never knew this existed. Thanks for the upload.

[@ssprokofiev]

Strange, but in this work more than in any other by Liszt, you can notice his influence on Wagner. It is well known that Wagner took his harmonies from Liszt. This is exhibit A. Much of it sounds like Wagner well before Wagner sounded like Wagner.

[@rogercarroll2551]

I thought the same thing !

[@sawney-21]

"sounds like Wagner well before Wagner sounded like Wagner" LoL. That fragment crack me up.

[@pianista-mediocre]

"well before" would be about 5 or 10 years earlier.

[@erlandschneck-holze4476]

... a very surprising performance of this unknown work - very idiomatic and in the "right" tempo, with many reflections in the manner of Liszt. Thanks to all artists.

[@demertzis2694]

8:08 - 9:20 so emotional✨

[@jackjackk9894]

What a beautiful concerto ! ❤🎶

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven. John 3:16 Romans 3:23❤😊❤

[@davidrehak3539]

Liszt Ferenc:3.Esz-dúr Zongoraverseny 1.Andantino - Recitativo del pianoforte 00:00 2.Andante - tempo primo 05:38 3.Allegro come prima 11:33 4.Allegro vivace 12:40 Jandó Jenő-zongora Magyar Állami Hangversenyzenekar Vezényel:Lamberto Gardelli

[@davidrehak3539]

Köszönöm az értékelést

[@davidrehak3539]

Köszönöm az értékelést

[@davidrehak3539]

Köszönöm az értékelést

[@ValzainLumivix]

Thanks

[@Kikirocy]

7:30 beautiful as always...

[@marcalexandrefontenay9801]

Œuvre oubliée et posthume en avance sur son époque voilà pourquoi Liszt l’avait mise de côté de peur d’effrayer son audience ! Merci au maître Jando de l’avoir enregistrée!

[@aleksanderkalicki5518]

Exact, trop avant-gardiste pour publier son 3ème concerto pour piano.

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven. John 3:16 Romans 3:23😊❤❤❤

[@sprechendemulltonne5051]

Thanks so much for the upload! Liszt is really a love for live :)

[@StuartSimon]

The theme in D major never gets repeated because the theme of the Andante is the real second subject and is in the correct key for one. The return of the first theme is in the wrong key (B minor), Indeed, when E-flat major comes, its transformation begins a real recapitulation that is compressed but does feature the theme from the Andante with both its halves present.

[@jeuxdeau2009]

wow the way he broke into that trill at 5:04 !!!!

[@Liszthesis]

**E P I C**

[@ValzainLumivix]

@DÜT DÜÜÜT MÖMEÑT WÎTH CRÖCÖDILE X

[@GUILLOM]

Yes

[@GUILLOM]

Thank you for uploading this underrated masterpiece uwu

[@sirchoppy1810]

Wtf

[@GUILLOM]

@@sirchoppy1810 what

[@АлександрЯрков-ш2з]

Bravo brilliance concerto music super

[@fulviopolce9785]

Risentendolo ,devo riconoscere un concerto di grande qualità,molto melodico in diversi passaggi,oggi parecchio sottovalutato.

[@Gargantupimp]

This music makes me terribly sad. Like dreams lost forever.

[@김동현-y1c]

I didn't know there is 3rd concerto composed by Liszt

[@benfranklin9519]

I have this CD. Isn't Jando grossly underrated?

[@AndreiAnghelLiszt]

Absolutely!

[@harryrees627]

Ben Franklin he is 100% underrated. I have a recording of him playing Bach’s WTC and, honestly, it’s one of my favourite recordings of any work.

[@benfranklin9519]

@@harryrees627 I also like that one & the Bach recital disc

[@Felix_Li_En]

@@benfranklin9519 His repertoires are incredibly huge !!!

[@ArsLonga1967]

Vastly underrated. Naxos is a "budget" label so the snobs in Classical music circles tend to think that association tarnishes his standing.. Their loss... Idiots!

[@noblehouse555]

AAC127, thanks as always for you wonderful Liszt postings!

[@kofiLjunggren]

5:39 reminds me his theme and variations!

[@FranzLiszt0904]

I think he indeed used that theme for this masterpiece

[@joaquinalfonso9573]

👏👏👏 yo tenía entendido que Liszt escribió sólo dos conciertos para piano y orquesta

[@sawney-21]

Este es un descubrimiento nuevo. Al parecer, Liszt jamás lo tocó en vida (públicamente, al menos) ni lo publicó, y los manuscritos estaban esparcidos por todas partes. Fue hasta en 1989 que se hizo una publicación completa de este trabajo; por ello es poco conocido y casi no hay grabaciones.

[@David-mq5sl]

Feels like it has the youthful exuberance of Saint Saens

[@fulviopolce9785]

Ottima ricostruzione e ottima e interessante prestazione. Grazie per il caricamento

[@giorgiociomei5030]

Ma è bellissimo... A me piace quasi più del primo e del secondo!

[@anaselmaaroud]

Top i love it ❤❤

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

The first thing that is clear, that if he had revised this, like he usually did, he would have give a tacet to the piano in the first tutti section after the introduction. It makes no sense for orchestra and piano playing all this together.

[@keybawd4023]

Thank you for posting. A really interesting listen. .Though I have to confess that I find the piece 'bitty' - albeit with some beautiful bits, But it's rather like a patchwork, it never seems to go anywhere.

[@Liszthesis]

since it's not completed i guess, if Liszt had returned to this work later like the other concerti, it might have become a repertoire maybe =))

[@無名-n2h]

dont someone think that the time stamp 4:19 sounds extremely familiar to his mazeppa ending

[@ShaunakDesaiPiano]

6:06 a reference to his second concerto?

[@JAndrade96]

2:20 that sound error 😣 By the way, this piece is wonderful 🤩

[@cziffrathegreat666]

Reminds me of rhapsody no 9 quite a lot

[@rakeshkrishna1795]

@16:01 I don't see those thick double lines that indicate the completion of the piece. And the way Liszt ended this clearly is the place where he might have planned for a transformation (like in his second), this piece is incomplete thus making us sad...

[@AndreiAnghelLiszt]

Yep 😢

[@rakeshkrishna1795]

Andrei Cristian Anghel I seriously have no idea why 11 people had disliked this gem

[@ゆくちゃんLiszt]

This sheet music is two sheets, isn't it? This song is unfinished and seems to have been completed by a liszt researcher And it seems that the score was scattered in Budapest, (other places)

[@FranzLiszt0904]

can you explain in a way i could eassily understand pleasee, i got trouble in understanding it thanks

[@ゆくちゃんLiszt]

@@FranzLiszt0904 I have the piano sheet music for No. 3, but I don't have the sheet music for the orchestral part of No. 3.

[@turidemarcodeeustachijs3926]

Grazie. Qualche affinità col 3 di Ciaikowskij si intravvede..... è concerto di ricerca, e di dissoluzione del sistema tonale in alcuni punti. Liszt memore della Fantasia cromatica e fuga di Bach. Bello e ciclico. Come la sonata in si min.

[@q3v1x66]

14:09 sounds a bit like a part of dante sonata :)

[@campskyle365]

5:39 theme from 8 variations

[@manuelbes]

Wow I didn't know Liszt had a posth. piece.

[@niccolopaganini4268]

He has lots of them

[@manuelbes]

@@niccolopaganini4268 pieces from young adulthood ?

[@jerry_moo]

mAnu, some; but mostly assorted.

[@manuelbes]

@@jerry_moo ok

[@rakeshkrishna1795]

mAnu he has a lot. Unfinished

[@stephanjwilliams]

Where to find the score to this?

[@szilike_10]

I think at 9:43-10:15, Liszt is sending his regards to Thalberg.

[@AndreiAnghelLiszt]

Possible!

[@elionthekeys]

4:45

[@DanielFahimi]

Jokes on the people who think that Liszt is just virtuosity.

[@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven]

Exactly!

[@ValzainLumivix]

@⃞ h

[@GUILLOM]

h

[@ethanloch3802]

Yes you got us. We surrender, 😮😂

[@FranzLiszt0904]

7:30 this melody sounds familiar, which another piece did Liszt used?

[@FranzLiszt0904]

(Edit: oh yea its the 8 variations by Liszt)

[@MrDpof]

Thanks for the sharing and all the research you've done. Where can I find a copy of the manuscript ? I've to admit that I'm really skeptical that piece was written by Liszt.

[@AndreiAnghelLiszt]

"The primary source for this Concerto is Liszt's autograph manuscript. Unfortunately, this source is no longer intact, and pages are located in the M. E. Saltikov-Shchedrin State Public Library in Leningrad, the German National Museum in Nuremberg, and the Goethe and Schiller Archive in Weimar. Two folios of the manuscript are missing, and therefore an important secondary source is Gaetano Belloni's [Liszt's secretary and concert manager after 1841] copy, made from the autograph, also located in Weimar."-Dr Jay Rosenblatt, who identified and assembled the Concerto. There is no doubt at all that this Concerto is by Liszt. If you would like even more information, please contact Rosenblatt himself (I believe he is at the moment a teacher at University of Arizona).

[@jerry_moo]

The main recurring theme of this Concerto is taken from Liszt’s own composition, the main theme of his Op. 1 Variations-on which this whole concerto is basically just a giant thematic transformation of it, as suggested by the video description. So yeah, no doubt this is Liszt.

[@jonaskatona7136]

@@jerry_moo yes, but also don't forget that this piece also incorporates a lot of material from his Rondo di Bravura and Allegro di Bravura. In some ways, this concerto is Liszt's transformation and reflection on some of his earliest published works.

[@giacomocandoni9727]

Non sono mai stato un fan sfegatato di Liszt... Ma devo ammettere che alcuni momenti di questo concerto sono parecchio interessanti. Sono piuttosto stupito, certo c' é sempre qualcosa che mi disturba ma questo concerto ha qualcosa di diverso da molte altre opere di Liszt e qualcosa di tremendamente simile al caro buon Wagner in alcuni momenti

[@ShaunakDesaiPiano]

14:26 it can’t just be me who thinks that this is a reference to Mendelssohn’s wedding march.

[@ukahveci]

Absolutely true, This is Mendelssohn's wedding march 😅

[@GUILLOM]

It comes from the theme at 5:38

[@Occitania-vp5fc]

Très maauvais

[@gojewla]

I am annoyed that this was interrupted by a toilet paper commercial.

[@AndreiAnghelLiszt]

Because this video's audio has been copyright claimed by Hungaroton they run ads on it and I have no say in the matter. Sorry :( Btw, if you expand the video's description you will be able to see the copyright claims at the bottom.

[@gojewla]

Andrei Cristian Anghel That’s perfectly understandable and not your fault!

[@深夜-l9f]

@@gojewla but still it bangs right in the middle, it can be more humane. really....

[@Prometeur]

Why do the strings sound computer generated?

[@GUILLOM]

They don't

[@ValzainLumivix]

Bruh

[@OctoPlaysPiano]

you sound computer generated for thinking that

[@Prometeur]

@@OctoPlaysPiano shieeet

[@fulviopolce9785]

Affascinante. Il 4o concerto di Rachmaninov è molto simile.......

[@kofiLjunggren]

How?

[@ufab9058]

Can you explain how? Rachmaninoffs 4th is my favorite concerto and I don't see it.

[@vodkat07]

3:00 sounds like Liszt sonata

[@vodkat07]

4:21 sounds like Liszt symphonic poem mazeppa

[@mostsfa780]

Hi

[@lowlightpiano7110]

Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven. John 3:16 Romans 3:23😊😊😊

[@ciararespect4296]

Great i played through it scrolling on my piano but its rubbish really

[@pikakesky9685]

liszt piano concert de profundis kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6DHdIOIr7l7atk

[@handfartgod4537]

This is absolutely marvellous, thank you for the upload, I also suggest uploading Liszt's four elements (Les Quatre Élémens).