Literally 1½ hours of grinding and talking || Elden Ring UNEDITED #9

[@devinmatthews9645]

Watching Skyen scroll past the golden scarab hat several times while talking about how he's looking for a hat that increases rune intake was stressful

[@Fredrik_RS]

"Now curb your excitement" I will not, this means you will soon™ be getting further in the game, and that is exiting on its own.

[@MonoFlax]

S O O N

[@Aeonian_puppy]

The adhd talk felt… Good It feels nice to hear others talk about it

[@GreenEyesOrigamiDragon]

Yes. This. This is what I'm feeling but in words.

[@ghostea6479]

@@GreenEyesOrigamiDragonit’s hard to actually put it into words sometimes lmao, or to have the guts to acknowledge it

[@danielled8665]

It's so validating and pleasant to just vent and talk about it and hear other people talk about it, without the judgement.

[@zennim125]

i got diagnosed with ADHD in law school, here on brasil you have to write a final thesis for graduation and that almost literally killed me, i couldn't do it, trying to write and study for my thesis was almost vomit inducing and the maddening part is that it was about a subject i absolutely loved, but i couldn't do it, the pressure and the amount of work that i needed to do made my brain convulse and refuse to look at my books and i was having all the symptoms of severe anxiety and depression disorders i was lucky that in my most severe episode i had my sister to call for her help, i got a diagnose i cried like a baby in my first sessions with a therapist and i got the medication for my case i finally finished my thesis, and then covid happened today i can't afford my medication anymore, things have been dire i lost a lot of opportunities because i went through college without treating my condition, but today i am alive, and i am living, i can manage with the optimism that things will get better

[@Nobodyandthegiant]

I FEEL you about the sleep apnea. I was told by an orthodontist that I'm tongue tied (the connective tissue on the underside of the tongue is too tight) and that affects sleep by giving your tongue less options of where to rest when you're sleeping. It really only can fall back into your throat. So I got surgery to fix that and HOLY WOW that was life changing oh my god. I really did walk around shocked wondering "What the hell? People go to sleep and DON'T feel microwaved?" Seriously if any of you are tongue tied and have the ability, ask your dentist for a referral to have it fixed.

[@joaopedroabreu2688]

loved the conversation about ADHD, and putting in my own spin as a auADHD, it has happened so many times that i start a day sensory seeking and then eventually get really overwhelmed and overstimulated and find myself incable of doing a lot of things and stuggling to even take a shower, and in that i apreciate 3bskyen and these more laid back videos because for me they're ADHD and autism friendly in a way that provides me stimulation that doesnt overwhelm me, also your lor art critiques and boss deisgns helped me trough very rough times as my first breakup in life coincided with the start of the pandemic so here's a thank you for that time as well

[@GreyRan6]

Wow ... This whole talk on ADHD is resonating so much ... I have to take that to my doctor, this speaks to me ... Thanks a lot for opening about all that Skyen, you might have just unlocked something about my own mental issues. Your content is always a great interest but this particular video ... Just thank you so much

[@danielled8665]

It's surprising how often it's hiding down at the root of other issues. Adhd can literally cause depression and anxiety

[@lunaverse4977]

As a non league fan who loves your channel, i hope my presence is a drop in the bucket that helps you escape the league algorithmic niche lol. Granted, i've been here for years even when you were undoubtedly a league channel, but i knew nothing about the game and just liked your way of talking about character design and storytelling.

[@knightoftrousers6407]

Frankly hearing you talk about your adhd and how much you know about it makes me realize that I know very little about my own condition despite having an adhd diagnosis. I'm gonna bring that up with my psych soon, so thanks!

[@liamkoch3623]

I hope your psych can educate you in your sessions or at least provide educational material! I don't have adhd but have been in therapy due to anxiety and depressions since I was a tween. My first couple of therapists did close to no education. As an adult I found a therapist who does give me the background info and it has personally helped me a ton. I wish you all the best on your mental health journey!

[@knightoftrousers6407]

@@liamkoch3623 I was able to talk about with my own therapist and turns out they have a background in this sort of thing so I think I'm in good hands!

[@liamkoch3623]

@@knightoftrousers6407 I´m glad to hear that!

[@MonoFlax]

Str/Faith is an awesome build once you unlock the flame art affinity, theres some cool ashes of war you can put on big weapons and also some insanely strong late game weapons that scale with str/fai 👁️

[@JoyceW-Art]

Hearing you talk while grinding in Elden Ring was so relaxing, the time flew by like it was nothing!

[@telivan776]

You and Tarnished Archeology are the only Fromsoft lore(ish in your case) channels i can stand. Cuz you actually look at the game and and analyze the shit what goes on. Your boss designs videos are probably my favorite videos on your channel. Also holy shit as someone just getting started on getting that ADHD diagnosis cause Aalborg said i had to figure that shit out before i can transition my gender. Hearing someone else describe all the crap i've been going through without knowing why for multiple decades now was both terrifying, heartwrenching, and inspiring. Also you and a set group of comic book artists are the reason why i'm trying to get into the big art school in denmark so thanks for that inspiration.

[@doomdoot6731]

As per the first 2 minutes of pondering in the video: 40 is indeed the first soft-cap on Vigor. It doesn't work as it does in the other souls games though; iirc you still get a pretty significant boost up to 60. Looking at the wiki: You get an average of 29.5 hp/lvl for the first 40 levels and an average 22.5 for the next 20 (and 5.1 from 60 to 99). As to Strength, the break point is smack at 30 (or 45) for most things not heavy infused, which takes the break point up to 60 I believe. That being said, lvl 70 is absolutely adequate for the content you are currently doing. I don't know whether or not you consider this back-seating (in which case ignore my advice), but a large part of your damage in this game comes from weapon upgrades, which "require" you to go through side content (especially the mines) in order to upgrade more than a handful of weapons. Tombs are also good to have a look at, if you plan on ever using Spirit Ashes, since they are the primary location for the Ghostglove (or something like that). Edit: On your map I can see a couple of mines being completed already, so your weapon damage should be absolutely fine for this point of the game. Ignore my prior rambling, if you so choose...

[@SleepyMami]

Hi there, I know the video is 2 months old but I found your channel through your recent elden ring boss design video and found you so fucking refreshing that I ended up watching a ton of your content even games I didn't play haha. But listening to you talk about your adhd and finding acceptance with it is very reminiscent to me of my own self- acceptance journey and the idea I basically hear you describing and that has been radically life changing for me is discovering which traits about myself that I used to view as flaws or deficits and fed into so much self- loathing but now I understand that they're "morally neutral". It seems so trivial that shifting my thinking that little bit would have such a profound effect on my day to day happiness but it has and I'm glad to hear you've been kind to yourself about your own neurodivergence. We're not failing morally because we might operate differently, it's neutral! Not good or bad, just is! Peace be with you! We only get one life, I think, cheers to not spending it beating ourselves up or "should"ing ourselves to death! Edited to add: Okay and now at the end of the video and you mentioned Behind the Bastards and I understand why I like your channel and takes so much! You talk about my favorite game and love my favorite podcast! Now to twiddle my thumbs until your misbegotten video drops...

[@franciscoadasilvajr4514]

The funny thing about mages in this game is that they have some BIG CHUNGUS builds Either creating GIANT SWORDS or A GIANT HAMMER to do a big SWOOP and BOOM

[@miguelMickSummer]

It's funny how in Dark Souls most of the big chonky weapons have FTH and Elden Ring just did the opposite with most UGS

[@timlee5711]

Hearing you talk about ADHD... feels way too close to home.

[@johnuselmann2704]

THIS!!!

[@danielled8665]

The adhd compulsion to clump into groups because we talk and think at the same pace and in the same weird distracted tangents. 😅 I'm here with you and *very* adhd as well.

[@wanderingshade8383]

Good god, that talk about the guilt that accumulates and prevents you from doing the things. That is me 110%. ADHD is a bitch sometimes.

[@Ellievsgod]

I literally just got caught up on the unedited streams yesterday, wild.

[@tyleroyler6626]

Same 😂😂😂

[@alexrafananasylum]

I started watching you because of the boss designs of dark souls three the year before during a depressive episode, and you helped make that time less terrible, now during long nights I like to replay that and the other souls Bourne boss designs. So thank you, T.B. Skyen.

[@metalweeb640]

I'd be so down for music/lyric analysis, hell yeah!

[@MaelraJade]

My first run was sorcerer. Mostly using Glintstone pebble art of war on a rapier and some of the stone toss incantations to stagger enemies, swapping to the Dark Moon greatsword in the endgame and basically ending as Carian Knight dedicated to Ranni, both as gameplay plan and character lore. Current second run is with a big axe with some bestial incantations (Strength/Faith scaling catalyst) thrown in as ranged option and a lot of using the shield riposte strikes. My most recent experience so far was a boss that I put to sleep with pots, then did 2 fully charged attacks and a normal strike to stagger them, critical hit and repeat.

[@ghostea6479]

Ooo I like that, my brother is also a big bonk sword kinda guy but I like to be a little more strategic like this

[@leadstomach9397]

Hey, fellow “adhder” here, rogue likes are the fucking secret to happiness.

[@mdcandronic]

I wanna say the soft caps in elden ring are a bit higher than previous souls games, who usually had 125 as the optimal end game sort of level target. Elden ring, you will probably get to 150 or higher. For vigor it is indeed 40 but going up to 60 is near mandatory due to the insane late game damage

[@Scienzkid]

I had a crappy day yesterday. But seeing you post today makes the anxiety demons fuck off. Thanks man

[@trakeefo6634]

WOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE ELDEN RING TY FOR GRINDING

[@Paegis]

It's neat seeing similar stories in other comments here - I've long suspected I've had ADHD (I already know I'm some kind of neurodivergent since I was a Gifted Kid, and I frequently relate to what ADHDers describe) so it was nice to hear you talk about it (I'm gonna get myself tested the next time I see my doctor!) but also, that talk about sleep apnea was... eye-opening? Like, I literally have that *exact* feeling of needing to spend an hour "booting up" when I wake up, and then hearing you talk about how it was mind-blowing to realize other people *don't* just experience that *all the time*??

[@secretofkel1047]

Yep, sleep apnea and ADHD are known to be comorbid! Honestly ADHD comes with a lot of potential other things and it makes you realize just how little we still know about what it even is. Definitely get a sleep test if you can, getting a Cpap was a life changer for me and I don't know how I went so long without one. Good luck with the ADHD diagnosis!

[@FantomTangents]

Finally found an intersection between my adhd and my SO's (and my) love of FromSoft. Thank you for being so fricking eloquent about paralysis and other issues we brains deal with. I hope it helps my SO understand a little better. ❤❤❤

[@nbmoleminer5051]

I hear you on the ADHD struggles Skyen cause oh boy have I been and go through that misery very often and need to constantly remind myself it's not my fault and so don't forget to always remind yourself it's not your work on gradually training yourself on not not blaming yourself filling yourself with self loathing and when to take a brake and believe me I know it's an ongoing battle constant battle and will be a long gradual process and there will always be set backs but it's the best approach I've found also know when to ask people not to do something that triggers the self consciousness/self loathing and yeah it ain't perfect but it does help somewhat you've even mentioned some of this/this in the video yourself.

[@strahinjaspasic9865]

If you do Vaare's questline(the guy who calls you maidenless) you unlock the best rune farm in the game. Edit: maybe look it up on youtube its kinda complicated

[@ErrenaGlaciell]

Been toying with the idea of starting my own media analysis channel for the last 2 years due in large part to the inspiration I've had from watching your videos, but always get that imposter syndrome telling me I'm not good enough for it (along with the AuADHD issue with starting a new thing and the last near 2 years of Long COVID meaning I didn't have the breath for much of that time). Was good to hear the non-direct encouragement, maybe I'll actually sit down to record something finally soon... Thanks for the chill podcast style episode!

[@rockytokyo]

the goat has returned to his playthrough after a two year cliffhanger!

[@4dragons632]

If you're interested in adding a new angle to Well There's Your Problem podcast then I would recommend their episode about plant covered skyscrapers. They make good points about _tree_ covered skyscrapers, but they dont talk much how many climbing plant options there are and the sorts of things that can be done to make it possible.

[@tigrafidun]

today i learned that maybe shutting down again after every time i wake up and unwillingly sleeping for at least 3 hours when i just went for a nap maybe is not in fact normal.

[@SneakyTogedemaru]

Awesome video. The title certainly understates it, even if just a bit ;) Given me some insights I'm rather grateful for, so thank you.

[@GreenEyesOrigamiDragon]

Dude, I was literally so excited to see this video, and then you told me not to be. My heart can't take this. I might need you to give me a new one.😜

[@tnecniw]

I Will point out that i think it is more efficent running around and killing the small militia guys… As they give 1100 runes each and are very easy kills even at low levels. But that is just my backsesting talking. XD

[@2BSkyen]

Oh absolutely, but they also have a few nasty attacks and I would have to focus a lot more and pay attention, so I couldn't do so much talking while grinding that way.

[@tnecniw]

@@2BSkyen Fair enough. Absolutely valid. :3 Just how I spent a fair time grinding. There is also the dragon... "skip". Won't say more, because if you know what that is, you know what that is, and I don't want to spoil.

[@arandraco]

You are the person who helped me realise i had gluten-intoleranse and therefore was practically anemic. So the being tired at university stuff i fully relate to so much... As well as the adhd. ya it brrr.

[@JoyceW-Art]

Did not expect a new part yet. Nice!

[@elleofmusic]

One small suggestion I'll make is that you should stock up on Kukri knives (you can buy them from the merchant near Castle Morne) because having a ranged option in this game WILL make your life soooo much easier. Throwing pots are also great fun, but Kukri scale with STR as well as DEX, and they have a very impressive range. Well worth their price imho. And man, I feel you on the ADHD stuff. I finally got diagnosed a couple years ago, and it was such a game changer. Having the validation to just be kinder to yourself and the way your brain works helps so much. Also.. heh heh.. funny you talk about rock textures when there is actually some very deep lore to the rock textures in a certain late-game area 😁

[@TwolfS3041]

I just want to take a moment to thank you Skyen for the tip on using reverse analysis as a tool in approaching designs. Often I notice things that are "off" or peculiar in media and find it hard to put my finger on it, only that something was intentionally off about it. It never occurred to me the usefulness of tackling an element from the perspective of its opposite, or "what if it's not X?" **SPOILER** What would have happened if Radahn's horse is scaled bigger instead of being laughably small? What if Malenia has armor instead of being naked in her final form? Why is it the "Scarlet" rot? Why specifically scarlet? **SPOILER** The simple exercise shed a lot more light on the designs, made them easier to digest, and I'd begun to really appreciate the artistic choices behind them. There is no "right" design or "better" design, but rather it is rewarding in attempting to understand "why is it designed the way it is presented." And I thank you for giving us this tool.

[@אוריאיזנברג-ס4ו]

Great comment, please don't spoil for skeyn anything though

[@TwolfS3041]

@@אוריאיזנברג-ס4ו good call. Edited to tag possible spoiler section

[@haroldonobre9928]

Man... I start to suspect that I'm aromantic with your video about the subject. I was unsure about the diagnost of ADHD my neurologist gave me... again listening to your experience with the subject helped to identify myself with the condition... thank you again for sharing your experience, it actually changed my life... again. In a different note, can we have some kind of compilation of the analysis part of the boss designs, the shorts are note the same thing as the deep version, nothing against Mr. past Skyen, but I would really enjoy it, just to get them back to back.

[@EskayRogue]

As someone who also has ADHD, it often feels like your own brain is constantly guiltripping and gaslighting you, like it can be really really insidious, especially when you don't know it's ADHD yet and don't have medication. Like I have ADHD too, and I have known about it since I was diagnosed about a decade ago at 11 years old, I got Ritalin, and that shit did not play well with my brain chemistry(likely because of my codiagnosis of autism), so like I finally tried medication again recently, with Elvanse, and that stuff actually helps me so much! Btw I am also a Dane like yourself, except I live on Fyn, so I know exactly how annoying the Danish medical system can be(especially for me since my personal doctor is can of horrible, luckily my psychiatrist for the medication is awesome) Just wanted to share my experience to say like, I know how you feel, and you're not alone! I also wanna add something, but I can't like explain it in english(which is rare) so I will in danish, for like 3 år siden, fandt jeg ud af, som 18-årig, at når folk siger de ikke gjorde noget på grund af dovenskab, mener de at de kunne absolut have ghort det, men de aktivt valgte ikke at gøre det, hvor jeg troede dovenskab var den der følelse hvor hjernen siger "Du skal gøre det her, hvorfor gør du det ikke? Stop med at spille, og gør det, hvorfor vil jeg rykke mig!?" y'know, I thought my executive dysfunction was the same as laziness.

[@rexshurathegod200]

YESSSS

[@kasadeya3754]

It’s good to be back!

[@ghostea6479]

HEY LOOK ITS ELDEN RING YIPPEEE .. is what I said before I actually listened to the yapping in this unedited ep💀 hearing you talk about adhd and just the absolute schedule fuck that it makes of its prey, just really is making me think about maybe talking to someone about my adhd again. I actually STOPPED taking my medication because I felt guilty and that my condition wasn’t serious enough for me to actually take something for it. Maybe I have to start over again. I see a lot of comments that resonate with what you’ve said here, and to all yall? I pray that we all find ways to cope with the shitty hand we’ve been dealt💕

[@4dragons632]

I'm reasonably certain I dont have ADHD, but I do also get that feeling where when there is something I want to do but its not what I ought to do I find the wanting thing starts to become a source of pain and discomfort. It sucks. :(

[@Springtrap11556]

I have ADHD, and a few other neurological "issues". I always need to have something in my hands, just as a fidget so I could focus. I can understand not being able to do something because you have no motivation.

[@johannastuppy4903]

what always helped me with things that i realy, realy, realy had to do: i do two things at the same time. I realy don't want to clean the house? well put on some music or a podcast. something my brain can concentrate on. And bam: i can clean the bathroom.

[@smuggery]

If being lazy is doing nothing and being happy about it, then i think i have some worrying realizations to come to, because i dont think i can think of a time i was doing nothing and was content or happy about that fact, So thanks mr youtube person

[@UltraIsa297]

I try to watch all your videos I got into your content because of your souls Bourne videos

[@theironqueen2386]

tbskyen nobody wakes up fine ORRRRR i am even more betrayed by my body than i thought SOMEHOW?????

[@daniellepollock1594]

I relate so much to your struggles with adhd

[@komaytoprime]

It's very validating hearing ADHD be talked about like that. ❤

[@secretofkel1047]

hell yes hell yes

[@gerbendeconinck]

my favorite youtuber of the past 7 years has the same neurodivergency as me?? Collor me surprised. Jokes aside though, happy you're finding ways to deal with it. I'm in a place where I don't even see the adhd as something "wrong" with me as much as it's just a neurology that functions reaaaaaaaaly badly within our modern (post industrial,capitalist), society. The happiest I've ever been is when I get to travel (in ways that don't mean I need to be anywhere on time) No schedule, just eat, sleep, generally keep yourself alive and enjoy the moment. All the symptoms just disappear into thin air. But obviously that's not a life I can just permanently keep doing, or I could but I would have to sacrifice all that I have at this point. But just running off into the woods has been a lil fantasy of mine for a while now. Accepting the positive that comes with that type of neurology has also been a big jump for me, which is all the more easy when (like you) I started finding ways to deal with it and be kinder to myself about it.

[@gerbendeconinck]

Ok, I might have sleep apnia....should check that too

[@johnuselmann2704]

I think you definitely helped Nicky more than you hurt him because KZbin already killed his Cassiopia video before you covered and brought attention to the re-upload, and without that, I never would have subscribed and watched all his content.

[@vrzrea795]

I really liked your talk on ADHD

[@Nyota7766]

Oh interesting didn't know he had this.........neat.

[@arathainreal]

I'd advise avoiding grinding all that much - it's much more entertaining, and a lot quicker, to explore areas you haven't visited yet and go through catacombs, dungeons, and etc. - just something to keep in mind for the future, there's a lot of fun little items to be found in the optional areas, and there's *plenty* of them. Also, glad you're able to get back to the game, even for a bit - it really can be a sirensong when it digs in, and being able to get back to it should help just a little bit ❤

[@strack2574]

To be fair, i have no sleep apnea or any other sleep related issues, but i was still very tired and sleepy throughout my 6 years in Uni😅

[@tabbottinator]

Do check with your doctor anyway. I had the same thing - turns out I've got hypothyroidism which screws with a lot of things, tiredness amongst them.

[@strack2574]

​@@tabbottinator I did, all good, doctor basically said that it was all due to combining studies with full time work and stress build up. It's all good now😊

[@ThyGeep]

I understand the ADHD block fully, I love this series but if it takes the pressure off of you and lets you just have fun, then I would wait however long I had to for every episode. Hell, start playing off stream or anything you’d like if it helps you out!

[@wanderingshade8383]

3 maybe 4 episodes you say? Hmmmm. Which bosses will those be I wonder... Makar will be one for sure. Maybe a Tibia Mariner for another? Hmmmm...

[@Tengila]

Your musings about Sleep Apnea certainly reinforces my determination to keep bugging my doctors about investigating it. I recognise myself _so goddamn much_ in that two-hour-or-more startup sequence and occasional _fucking neccesary_ naps. Additionally, I have the constant fatigue and brain fog. The sticking points of my doctors so far seems to be the fact that I don't know if I snore or not (I've been living alone for eight years, what the hell do they want me to do? And snoring's not even guaranteed if you have apnea! It's just very common) And if you have the misfortune of being a female-passing neurodivergent person with depression, doctors just don't seem to fucking take your concerns about _really serious, unrelenting, life-hindering_ fatigue seriously 🙃

[@ecurps1]

I would argue spellcasting in FromSoft titles sucks ass on the gameplay axis, anyway.

[@EvolutionGround]

I do really enjoy some spellcasting to supplement meelee playstyles like pyromancy in DS or incantations in ER. Mage playstyle is boring and bad. Not as bad as bows, tho.

[@ienott]

Robert is cool so i have to believe hed be cool with your reacting maybe possibly

[@leadstomach9397]

Yippee!

[@torru36]

Yeah, Skyen needs to get a bit stronger if he wants to fight the next boss.

[@endikaaspeurrutia1013]

YEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!! VAMOOOOOS!!!!