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[@James-lp2sq]

i was actually sad when i realised the video was ending! i could watch an hour of you upgrading on your vehicle!

[@yanceys1]

Your shear enthusiasm for building 4x4 trucks is inspiring. Each time you film a new series of building a new rig you get physically giddy on film and we love it that after all the years you still get that excited!!

[@robertgrayson3394]

Love the DLR lights and switching set up. The sound deadening absolutely transforms these thing in terms of comfort.

[@bluecollarstudio8513]

Almost 200k subs!! I enjoy a lot of offroad channels but this is definitely the most cinematic off road channel. Love your builds and adventures, awesome job!

[@explorermates5655]

Hey Andrew nice build, I am loving the info you are providing beyond the usual aftermarket provider. Stuff like sound insulation and speaker upgrades, never seen that before in 4WD!

[@finnianfitzsimons623]

Loving this build so much

[@cordcd7]

Have had my Falken WildPeak AT3s on my FZJ80 for about 3 years now. Love them. Low road noise, great in the snow and rain and handled off road perfectly fine in my area. Will test them out in April on my next 4x4 outing. Cheers.

[@rrrandommman]

Well done Three Nads, love these build vlogs, helps me plan for my own. Cheers mate.

[@AussieDazza]

Great job .👍 We have an Enerdrive 200 amp Lithium battery in our van. Very expensive but well worth it. Andrew - There is a hybrid type tyre - The Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 is halfway between a muddy and an All Terrain.

[@philipjooste9075]

Andre, just noticed the intake for your intercooler is facing the wrong way!

[@jimbobjones9119]

You mean Andrew, right?

[@lucasantes3687]

Love that you're running the Falken's! I run them and think they're one of the best! Hope they live up to your expectations.

[@tylerdooley4783]

Ive been trying to steer clear of electrical equipment (keep it simple stupid), but you are changing my mind on the lithium batteries! Very impressive! Thanks!

[@Sillyboy9572]

I live in Perth and I have a Big Red Ranger px1. Good to see a local! 🍻👍

[@sidewithwerewolves]

I love how this is you going in deep on building your tourer. Previously it felt like the only successful way to build one was through a specialized 4x4 shop. For me on a tight budget this was awesome!!!

[@miex110]

18:20 Toyo "open country R/T" is a hybrid tire between M/T and A/T. Nice build

[@kromey111]

Hi Andrew. You mentioned about having a tyre between a mud tyre and all terrain. There are a couple of Hybrids. Nitto Ridge Grappler and Toyo RT

[@eightballsidepocket]

Very keen to see how you fare with the Falkens. I have seen two seperate videos that experienced slippage on sandy rock outcrops that I feel should not have happened with other tires that I have used in similar conditions.

[@jed8five897]

@4x4overland Toyo open country R/T is an hybrid between the M/T and the AT2 " The Open Country Rugged Terrain (Open Country R/T) 4x4 tyre from Toyo Tires is a next-generation 4WD tyre that combines the extreme puncture-resistance and strength of an M/T with the long-wearing compound and sealed road performance of an A/T to service the emerging ‘hybrid’ tyre category"

[@SS-sh6ww]

Thank you for the info on Lithium Batteries !

[@thomas316]

Love your work Andrew. I'm a Kiwi coming to live in Australia next month and looking forwards to a few road trips. Never has a 4wd before but have plenty of adventure motorcycling experience (so I know how to pack light!)

[@therealdjt532]

Are you getting away from Jacinda?

[@thomas316]

@@therealdjt532 We couldn't possibly deprive deserving Australians of Scott Morrison. 🤔

[@nomadtales]

PLenty of open space for a few road trips. watch the roos :)

[@dartanion0075]

Another one.

[@TyFenwick]

Awesome Andrew ! I love that my build is almost complete, however looking towards completion it makes me want to start all over again ! Love the process of building a new truck 😁👍🏼

[@garyklewis]

Andrew - Was looking at Bob Towery's truck today at church, and particularly the K02's on it. Told him about my '85 F250 set up for overlanding and that I'm needing to replace the tires and that I'm looking at K02's and WildPeak A/T3W's. He said he only uses BFG's. Then in the conversation he mentioned your channel and suggested I take a look. I have and found this episode where you mounted the A/T3W's. What a coincidence! So, what do you think of the tires now, 2 1/2 years on?

[@gaj5701]

Please, please promise with all the work you're putting into this thing, the camper unit won't make it look like a great dane humping a whippet, as so many end up looking like!

[@amaclach]

Such a perfect description

[@Zobby447]

Bahahaha grouse

[@gaj5701]

@Clarence I certainly have, & that last thing he tried to bolt on the back of a 79 was an obese monstrosity of a thing, which really makes me fear the same fate awaits this now it's a bit bigger with a band-aid GVM uprate & he's using the same company..

[@Memovox]

What camper unit would satisfy your aesthetic preferences?

[@gaj5701]

@@Memovox If I had to have a 79 I'd ditch the tray & have a walkthrough composite body like this from Mulgo at Expedition Centre. The Europeans do this kind of thing regular & there's no reason to not do it here on a dedicated tourer. Would probably be lighter than a standard tray & camper unit too. facebook.com/237295279721241/posts/1414049012045856/

[@chrisdawes6081]

iam running Toyo R/T . they are in between mud and a A/t. very strong tyre and weights about twice that of a BFG or equivalent .

[@clstjam4321]

Andrew, FYI - Nitto Ridge Grapplers are hybrid all terrain/mud terrain tires. I've been running them for 10k miles and they're holding up nicely.

[@andrewmartin4524]

Hi Andrew, Toyo have the OPEN COUNTRY RT and Nitto have the RIDGE GRAPPLER which are a hybrid between a mud and all terrain tyre :)

[@solarbuduk]

Allegedly the Cooper ST Maxx is halfway between AT and MT. Haven’t tried them myself though.

[@jimbobjones9119]

The tyre and wheel combination looks great - so glad to see the move away from white lettering!

[@MichaelRCarlson]

I like the white lettering! Kinda bummed companies dont give the option any more.

[@jimbobjones9119]

@@MichaelRCarlson It don't belong no more bud, unless you own a 70s muscle car!

[@wesleymcgonagle3394]

Andrew, the front profile of this vehicle, ARB bullbar, Hella lights etc. Looks outstanding... 1 question though are you going to wrap it? or id that for another episode.

[@tomlemke360]

Hey Andrew, as usual, another excellent video with lots of very good advice. I would like to comment on your explanation of how Lithium Batteries discharge. I ride an e-bike with a lithium battery and the discharge "curve" is not level at all, never has been. It is more like a parabolic curve where the closer I get to full discharge the faster the voltage falls off, but falls very slowly at the beginning. I do have an LCD screen that shows the voltage falling off just like a LA battery but not at an almost 45 degree straight line of decrease like a LA. Cheers

[@macabansa1669]

I am 100% with you on the insulation sound proofing but my question or concern is, will that rubber foam layer hold water.

[@johncanalese588]

I believe in the video he said it was “closed cell” foam which means it shouldn’t retain water. The “open cell” foam will though.

[@alexdixon3759]

There are a few companies offering tyres between AT and MT these days. I myself am running Toyo Open Country RT's. No issues on our cape york trip last year, or driving around central west Qld where I live. They are fairly quiet on the highway as well.

[@zoezoe610]

I have Wild Peaks and they are a great tyre and excellent ride.

[@eaglen00b]

Yep, I had the Wildpeak AT01s on my HZJ75RV touring rig and now the AT3Ws. They are a severely under-rated brand and tyre. Great on on tarmac, good on icy roads (NSW, VIC snowfields), OK in snow, very good on wet roads, wet/dry gravel. Mud performance is compromised though, being an AT tire. Very good, smooth quiet ride too considering the LT construction.

[@ryanminnick2399]

They do offer a tire between mud and all terrain tires they're very popular in the US Nitto Ridge Grappler is a very popular and well-made Tire

[@CrazyforCruiser]

Man you are living your life according to your wishes. Me when I save money to buy a vehicle of my choice, then I have no cash left for tiny mods. I prefer keeping my car stock without adding any worthless weight of ARB bumpers or unstable lift kits. The only mods I prefer is diff lockers and a little bit big tyres and great sound system.

[@beto12345]

I'm going to check the extra fuse boxes in a Friends Land Cruiser if it's there, will answer the rest tomorrow... It's nice to know about that... Everytime I look for one of your videos I learn something useful.

[@aussiequest9543]

Thank you Andrew for these video's. I am interested in how your spot lights are with the reflection against sign post. i am in the process of setting up my own vehicle and looked at the Hella lights when i saw your last video. Love your work.

[@williamkerry2626]

Oh how this build excites me! Have fun, because this part is the real fun.

[@BuckeyeMCS]

Great looking build. I am running the Wildpeaks as well on my Discovery 2. Love them and I know the self internal conflict of AT vs MT :). I know they are part of the tire pressure monitoring but if you run any rocky terrain ever you are going to clip one of the tire valves and loose all your air right quick. Go rubber Love your channel!

[@gregdavis3246]

Kumho MT 51 tyres are called mixed terrain in between All terrain and Mud terrain . I am running 31 x 10.5 x 15 on my LN106 Hilux and I am happy with them.

[@Xatxitor]

What a gorgeous LandCruiser. So frustrating to not have them in north America. Had a h2 HJ60. It was so slow and bouncy XD

[@nnoddy8161]

Are you going to install a UniChip or remap the ECU?

[@aldrimduramax]

so lead acid crystal batteries aren't that great anymore or are lithium's use better for you doing

[@MrLoridin]

changed his tune pretty quick :-) Annoys me when he talks about batteries as try as he might Andrew gets it wrong on soo many levels and tries to pass it off as indisputable fact. ie the whole LC saga, where he promised to do a follow-up and never did and ignored all the facts presented to him.

[@derJackistweg]

rules of thumb LiIon battery discharge : "1 C" - that means it can be discharged by the same amount it delivers current. So a 100 Ah 12 Volt LiFePo can be discharged w/o problems by 100A! An AGM starter battery, 100Ah 12V, usually can be discharged by 700 - 800A! for a short! time, like starting. Some more modern Lifepo can be discharged by 2C - but this still is not an alternative. you can charge your starter battery though, before using the starter one.

[@chadsanty8227]

If you are looking for a tire between all and mud terrain try the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac. I am very pleased with mine. I find your videos excellent.

[@ryanmartinage]

I'd say there are a few tires close to that combo of MT and AT. Goodyear Duratrac, Nitto Ridge Grappler, Milestar Patagonia

[@yobgow]

You should turn the intercooler scoop around lmfao

[@TeoMorabito]

I'll be disappointed if he doesn't haha

[@tonydownunder5703]

This is great stuff 👍👍👍👍👍 You show and you talk about it all. But most important you explain it all. I think this build is going to be the ultimate. Can't wait to see what you've done next.

[@h2themfc]

So excited for this series! Great work as always.

[@tyonarms6735]

Um lots of Hybrid tires on the market today. Cooper ST MAXX, TOYO RTs, Nitto Ridge Grapplers, Mickey Thompson ATZs, Dick Cepek Fun Country 3, and others that are slipping my mind right now.

[@fbascou]

@4xoverland very good video and the front of that ride is one of the best looking trucks i've ever seen!!!! On the lithium vs agm batteries, i think you should also consider the charging and battery monitors, these are most expensive that regular ones too. Best regards and wishes from Uruguay, South America!!!!

[@79cruiser]

Love the detail you go into on these vids. Toyo have a cross between a mud and all terrain its a rugged terrain. I have them on my 79 and so far so good. Cheers Graeme

[@JosephVE3GKT]

Andrew, do you say "ampere-hour" or "amp per hour"? The second is not accurate. The unit Ah is one amp delivered for one hour, or an amp times an hour, not an amp divided by an hour. This is confusing me.

[@fraserhenderson7839]

I am sure he said "ampere hour". His pronunciation is a bit odd. He is unlikely to misunderstand basic electrical terms after his years of modification of off road touring vehicles. If you follow his commentary, he clearly understands about current delivery over time.

[@evang9708]

One of the few people I like listening to talk about batteries, even though I don't have a car.

[@BoresaverAus]

What an interesting episode! Really enjoyed the technical detail here Andrew.

[@Zapo9668]

Really enjoyed this video and I like the direction of the project. Excited to see whats happening in the rear seat space? I forsee a drawer system of sorts which is exciting.

[@32laurens]

For a tyre between AT and MT, maybe look at Maxxis 980.

[@jakubstrumillo]

Why no Cooper ST/MAXX its a great quiet AT+ tires between MT and AT :) I use them, i test them in comparison to the BFG AT and Duracraps... Cooper outperfom them easly.

[@couplacruszrs1834]

Very informative. Great video cant wait to see it finished

[@humbertorubi2735]

Dream Tourer... there is no better way to call this project. Go ahead Andrew!!!

[@martincordner9611]

Afternoon from South Africa, you asked about questions , the rear doors could you not have them opening from the the other way , this should give you more access Where the wheel arch was why not make that into storage area with a drop down door both sides

[@4xoverland]

there is a double rear door option

[@Vax42]

They already make a tire between m/t and a/t, it's called a hybrid tire.

[@markevans506]

Would you consider mounting 2 lights either on the roof or bull bar that were angled slightly outwards to provide a wider beam of light? My belief is that they would help show wildlife and potentially help prevent a collision and they would also aid during a turn as they would provide light into the area you are turning into.

[@4xoverland]

considering doing that with two bars on the rack.

[@alexbrown1995]

@@4xoverland Make sure you mount the lights well back from the front of the roof to prevent glare from the bonnet.

[@grantfindlay6744]

Andrew,one of the South African Offroad chain stores told me that Lithium batteries cannot be used in conditions like we come across in Botswana for example,they say they cant handle the rough and bumpy conditions.I am sure this isnt true.

[@abogoni]

Thanks for posting such a detailed video, I could watch this all day, such good content 😎

[@cedrima9480]

Please Andrew hurry up ! Can't wait for the next video ! Never have the idea to come back in Europe by the road accross countries to demonstrate how good yours vehicles are? ( would be funny to see you IRL if you come to Belgium ^^ )

[@onwheels8232]

If you want to learn more about litium batteries may i suggest you the following channel sir: DIY Solar Power with Prowse. This guy really knows what he's doing 😁

[@jaydensmith2851]

Love your videos!! Cannot wait to see the finished product!!

[@bjgtrev1970]

Andrew Have you noticed the Falken Tyres to be hard to balance. A few people I know and myself they seem to have a flat spot in the mornings until they get warm .

[@lowlifescum]

There is a tyre in between the mud and all terrain .. it’s called a “hybrid” Or “RT” rugged terrain .. I have a set of 35” Toyo open country RT’s .. and they’re amazing .. super quiet on road yet grippy Af off road

[@NorthernBorderBoys]

Can you get that black sticky stuff off later if you wanted to do repair work on a panel ?

[@gregdimas3011]

In So Cal a signal means cut me off NOW!

[@redpilledpatriot8484]

I like the troopy build better so far, especially In Terms of comfort and ease of access to bedding..but I’m speaking to soon as I have yet to see what you’ll do with this build.. if it’s a roof top tent I don’t think I will like it as much as the troopy.

[@4xoverland]

I assure you, nor will I. No RTT on this one!

[@jasonwishart8153]

Toyo also have a hybrid between AT and MT. Wild peaks seem very good though. 👌

[@Michael-yt8wj]

Andrew, i have had sevral sets of falkens and my current set is being looked at by falken for an admitted batch issue. Problem with the base rubber ripping off once worn to a point.

[@markwatherston6191]

Love your work Andrew can't wait till the next vid, just about to start my build and looking forward to it :)

[@gureno19]

Has this latest 79 series fixed the horrendous rear tracking issues?

[@4xoverland]

I fixed it. Toyota hasn't.

[@gureno19]

@@4xoverland I still do not understand the reasoning behind why Toyota doesnt just fix this issue?? Might be worth a quick video to get some reasoning on it. Also i hope they fixed the stock gearing issues, early models were shocking on the hwy at 110km/h.

[@alexbrown1995]

@@gureno19 Toyota are too mean to widen the rear track to match the front. Gee, they only want 80K or so for a basic vehicle.....

[@paulstledger5162]

Have you considered a can-bus electrical system for more simple wiring? I bought an Spod bantam for mine, I’m interested in how it goes in the long term. Great project!

[@lancet-kinzhal-sarmat-su57]

Hello. I would rather put a three-spoke steering wheel with buttons and front seats with ventilation from the Land Cruiser 200 second restyling than putting music on an SUV. Especially since it always has to get up a bolt-on ....

[@alvarofontes_naestrada]

Hi Andrew, have you ever used the MADMAN in your offroad carriers? If so, what are your impressions about it?

[@matribadeneira9766]

Andrew just please cover up the silver checker plate from the tray it's way too shiny and the rest Is perfect

[@Ewam27]

Come on... Keep the videos coming! Really enjoying this build so far. Hi from SA

[@Jay-hr9ci]

11:56 Are you talking about the DCS batteries? They say you don't need a special charger, and are fully winch compatible.

[@chuckmaddison2924]

The light watt thing is same as with car audio, lots of bull. Some state power way over the top just measure it into the speaker correctly and you wonder where it went. Now wondering how many people scratching their heads over that one.

[@jamieh4x4]

Are you sure your daytime running lights are legal in Western Australia? I think the average copper will call them foglights and give you a ticket.

[@alanwood82]

You are permitted to fit aftermarket drl lights in WA, as long as they are sold as drl and have Australian compliance. But they must turn off fully when headlights are on (like Andrew has done), unlike manufacturers fitted drls which can dim. Saying this I'm not sure if these have been fitted far enough apart?

[@CharlesKolosko]

Toyo now make an inbetween tyre. A RT or Rough Terrain. I'm only 2000km in but they seem fantastic so far.

[@augiewolff2754]

Last build lead crystal?? What's the difference?? Besides weight... different voltage life??

[@abogoni]

I'm keen to try this sound insulation on my rav4 which currently produces a lot of road noise when I am traveling at speed on country roads.

[@ppalla]

Looking forward to the long term review of the Falken Wildpeak AT3W. Becoming quite popular now in Australia.

[@notrut]

The Falken tyres on my road car didn't last too well .... too soft a compound. I went back to AVONs

[@krichd1]

You can get relatively quiet M/T tires nowadays, like the Milestar Patagonia.

[@mikezog1030]

Are those speakers waterproof because it gets pretty wet up north...

[@stevenweatherall1413]

BFG used to do a AT/MT mix called the tracedge and it was very good but they discontinued them

[@stevenbrown2401]

You can tell a person likes quality when they use Hella lights

[@HBButler01]

Get some KC Daylighters for the rack on the back ;) Love the build, wish they told those model Toyota Landcruiser’s in the USA!

[@Bajie_Smuggler]

Toyo have the R/T between the A/T and M/T tyres. Love the all terrains and will try the RT next set

[@dant2415]

I'm sure Andrew you are too busy to answer this so hopefully someone else can help out. or maybe you can cover it in your Live Q&A. QUESTION? Are there any legal requirement when removing the back seat? I'm assuming you will be treating it as temporary as to still maintain 5 person capacity for registration purposes. Thanks in advance, Dan T - Geraldton WA

[@TheSpoovy]

Dude literally makes a living out of spending money on his hobby.

[@LeslieBergh]

Yip. Respect 👍

[@majagasia]

Ironic how frugality is a theme in this vid with the Rolex in your in every scene.

[@troyf4696]

@@majagasia First and only watch that he ever bought. It was 1981 and it cost him $48.50. I wish I could have been that smart. Frugal........Yes!

[@troypons8733]

Check out the Toyo RT's. My friend is running them on his Amarok, they perform really well!

[@ScottBrisAust]

Hi Andrew, enjoying watching this build... But what happened to the Troop Carrier?

[@oldluxy]

I have wildpeak at3 been all around WA 80,000ks never punctured one , not even a leaky bead