Little David Bush You And I 1958 Vega 1002

[@obedirect5491]

Im here bc of utube doc "the real reason David...fired from the Tempt" where I learned abt this early recording.

[@JohnsLifeon22s]

Davids son David Jr. attended the same middle school with me in Detroit. That was back in 79 or 80. He had a great voice then. Not sure if he got into the music biz like his dad. Haven't seen him since. He would be about 42 yrs old now.

[@robertvelez8485]

Let's end the debate right now for this is the one and only David Ruffin singing his first record You and I in 1958 at the tender age at 17! The Ruffin family confirmed this and that's good enough for me!

[@harolddottin10]

This is not David Ruffin, Ruffin's family talking bull. This was Ruffin's stepfather who sang under the mantle Little David Bush. He also never wrote and sang the original Statue Of A Fool. There was a fake 45 record put under the title Statue Of A Fool ...Little David Bush. The original song was written by country writer Jan Crutchfield and went to no1 on the billboard chart in 1969 sung by Jack Greene. You will never see or hear a 50s version by Ruffin simply because it does not exist! if you cover the song you have to go through Jan Crutchfield.

[@Frnk_3]

@@harolddottin10 Actually David never had a stepfather. He had a stepmother tho from his dad’s marriage. Eddie Bush was his manager/guardian at the time. Without Mr. Bush we’d have no David Ruffin!

[@harolddottin10]

@@Frnk_3 Your word against mine Bottom line is that record will never be produced, because it does not exist!

[@obedirect5491]

I watched a utube doc "the real reason David...fired.." where I learned abt this early recording

[@DJaySplitSecond]

Why isn’t this rare gem being played more? This truly shows how talented David was!

[@DetroitNerd]

The people saying this is not David Ruffin obviously know nothing of music history. When he first started out he was known as "Little David Bush" and this is indeed him.

[@nicollantiago]

A lot of people don't believe it's David Ruffin because he had such a mature voice for a 17 year old.

[@obedirect5491]

I thought the same

[@miquelkustner6831]

This is definitely David, just listen to his song "Believe me" where he sings in this low voice and the gritty one we are accustomed to

[@a1992aron]

Miquel Kustner and the falsetto he hits when they say "baby I love you so"

[@imagine07018]

I have to agree, for several reasons. For one, Eddie Bush is alleged to have confirm that it is David. It seems like he's going for Roy Hamilton here. And on "Believe Me," he seems to be going for Ray Charles. The key is slightly higher but the low notes are, like this one, out of his range, making him sound different that he does in his natural tenor range. Notably, he never denied it was him while he was alive. Clearly, he had reasons to disown this one. It is not uncommon for voices to sound totally different in different ranges, particularly when younger (e.g. Eddie Floyd with the Falcons vs his Stax stuff and Ben Aiken's falsetto on his early stuff and his natural tenor vocal on We're on the Right Track in the 70s). Finally, that can't be him doing the falsetto part on "The Way You Do The Things You Do," singing above Eddie Kendricks, could it? Yes, it is. That doesn't sound like him either. But it is. The bottom line is that he had the capabilities to sing anything in more than one style and range. Bottom line, he was that damn good.

[@a1992aron]

imagine07018 Exactly. Great post!

[@RareMusicDirect]

Liked that one, thanks for putting me onto it Appreciated krh68

[@simplethingsbykathy1]

It's him. He was a teenager at the time.

[@mrsherman1030]

That's for sure a very young david I know his vocals and vocal runs. Especially the " ohh " only David has always done in that way.

[@antij1]

The longer I listen to this, the more convinced I am that it's him. His voice and style are not completely developed, but I think it's him.

[@elaineharrell8271]

I love David he was my sole mate

[@Longlivethechannel]

You're weird.

[@oldschoolsinger]

Come on people. Anyone that thinks this is David Ruffin is totally unfamiliar with his voice. Listen to him on Temptations Sing Smokey, singing Who's Lovin' You and You'll Lose A Precious Love. That's how David sounded when he was young, before he started singing with the grit and rasp in his voice. Then listen to this guy, whoever he is. No way in hell is this David Ruffin.

[@Erbruffin1964]

I agree that ain't him David Ruffin got that Mississippi sound. this guy sound like he from up north.

[@a1992aron]

oldschoolsinger you have to listen to his other pre temp songs. This definitely is David. It sounds different because he is singing in a low range, like in the beginning. The rest of the song sounds like him singing with the Voice Masters.

[@a1992aron]

oldschoolsinger Even in action speaks louder than word, he puts in that Elvis voice as he did in this song.

[@a1992aron]

Ruffin, confirmed it is him. Check out the Original Leads of the Temps

[@samstevens8012]

I thought the same thing the first few times that I listened to this song... However if you listen closely you can definitely hear certain points in this song that absolutely nobody but David Ruffin could have sang.. I believe that he was singing in a much lower key.. not sure why he would, perhaps he was influenced by a current singer of that time.. idk but I believe that this is actually Ruffin singing. He actually talks about his career before signing with the Tempt's on a interview that was included on his unsung video.

[@SoSillyWilly26]

If you listen to the pronunciation and the diction, even some of the “woahhhhh” you can tell this is a young David! He said his sound was much more pop and polished early on.

[@oldschoolsinger]

Well, to correct my comment from 7 years ago, I was 100% wrong. This was David. I never would've guessed.

[@a1992aron]

Bro, it sounds just like David, just a younger version.

[@srercrcr]

At first blush this teen voice sounds nothing like Mr Ruffin, but if you listen to areas where he reaches it sounds the way he reached as an adult. PLUS. this song is well documented as his.

[@a1992aron]

srercrcr exactly

[@MattAttack54]

Wow Chess You dug up a rariety Really Good David Ruffin Sounds Really young here

[@Modelt5000]

IDon't now how true but, I read that @ 17 years old, David recorded, you and I, Believe ME, and the original version of Statue of a fool,

[@aintnothingliketheoldskool]

To the people that is saying this isn't David I don't know what is going on in your mind and he was only 17 here.

[@UncleDuTheWatchman]

Of course this is Ruff! Ruff was a Baritone. This is his actual range. The style has nothing to do with the voice...All you have to do is listen to the upper register if you can't distinguish him in his lower range..and his vowel tones are CLEARLY him...Those "let it be" lines at the end, especially...David Ruffin was one of the most versatile singers in music history. And to think he was a teenager here. Wow.

[@devinecaramel]

David absorbed a lot of influences, can hear Roy Hamilton and Jesse Belvin in this one.

[@MikeAndersonvinyloldies]

It does not sound like him, but voices change over time. In his documentary, it says this was one of his first recordings. This is decent, but I'm glad he developed into what he did later on.

[@breathnstop]

I've read he flopped with this style. Still really smoove, for a kid too. I think when Smokey started writing for him, the game changed, he knew how to bring out his voice.

[@thewordkeeper]

Man! A seventeen year old David. An easy way to tell this is Ruff singing is to listen to the words that end with ly such as love-ly and on-ly; as well as words like me, be and please.

[@andrekilpatrick7704]

People on here saying he was a teenager..as if his voice sounds Immature lol..he actually sounds more mature here than he did with the Temps..so did his voice go backwards lol...No one can convince me that this is David Ruffin...sounds NOTHING like him!

[@oldschoolsinger]

Damn straight Andre. No way it's David.

[@a1992aron]

Do you have Mr.Bus Driver? it was on here before

[@a1992aron]

@potroast1969 This is David, Unsung did a story on David and this song and statue of a fool came up

[@grega1972]

The reason it doesn't sound like David is because we are not Use to hearing him sing in a low baritone cuz the dude had serious range , But Motown knew which range to capture his voice in

[@rodwms]

All the Temps had the ability to sing multiple parts in different styles and did so on many recordings...

[@potroast1969]

Yoy see, David could not resist the earthy sound when aloud to freelance. Even on "temptations in a mellow mood" He still does his thing. That is why this is not David Ruffin singing(you and I). Although Bush is his 1st mgr's last name, he may have song other songs under Little David Bush, but not this one.

[@chess1458]

Thanks For The Comment,I'm Glad You Enjoy,But My Name Is Mike,Not Sandie

[@a1992aron]

@thewordkeeper yea and you can also tell how he strecthes out the words

[@a1992aron]

@DandJRuffin its David i looked it up on his bio

[@a1992aron]

@DandJRuffin welcome :)

[@chess1458]

No Problem Chosen,I Totally Understand,When I Post The Flip Side Ill Send You The Vid

[@extinct327]

im sure this is david ruffin because when he catches his breath you can hear his genuine raspy voice

[@MattAttack54]

Hey Mike Just Curious but is that the voice masters backing him up?

[@a1992aron]

@cowboys3000 you gotta rememberhe was 17

[@lindahines8287]

I don't know if this is David it might be he was just sweetest 17.

[@hopediamond4real]

He would have been 17. His voice was immature, but nice.

[@RipCityEagle]

@srercrcr it is tv unsung did the story on him

[@kumaranger17]

ha obviously you dont know his voice better than most if you dont think its david

[@chess1458]

There Is Still A Rumor That Its Possibly David's Cousin.

[@ceeceetracey9839]

I read comments before I commented. This does not sound like David Ruffin. Especially not what I was expecting. I was expecting a more youthful David obviously but not a straight tenor. I was looking for a little bit of rasp. Its not like he started singing with the Temptations when he was 40.

[@b1ngban9b0ng]

What do you mean? How can it have been a cousin? It's clearly audible as David ;o

[@lydiaraymond2700]

Whether he sang at a shebang, gig or more progressive performances, whatever it had been called, he was developing his voice: Little David Bush later known by his birth name David Eli Ruffin earned his props and he was not and is not anybody's slave, a real entertainer is what you have here. WOW!

[@srercrcr]

Nope, not David.

[@TurboMan51]

Well history say this is him.

[@potroast1969]

That is not David Ruffin singing this selection. I know his voice probably, better than most

[@liherbert]

i know for sho this ain't ruffin i know davids voice. young or old.

[@davidruffin4560]

That's him for sure

[@alonzotanner1226]

This sounds nothing like Ruffin. Even in the A-Side song "Believe Me" which DOES sound like him it's so different. This sounds like a white guy. Amazing how yall think it's him just cuz it's credited to him. Crazy

[@Theredeyedjedi]

It don't even sound like Ruffin

[@locadisa]

Does not sound like David Ruffin

[@samstevens8012]

This is clearly not David Ruffin singing.. not at all

[@hopediamond4real]

Really??? That doesn’t sound like David at all.

[@montrellpurvis4387]

This dont sound anything like David 1 bitt

[@NTakaNiggatron]

It sounds like it could be him. He would’ve been just 17 years old, probably still trying to find his voice or unique style.