LIVE: Boyfriend Cop Murder Trial - MA v. Karen Read - Day 7

[@OpenSideBar-vr4rr]

Judge to prosecutor: "You're objecting to all of this, correct " Judge to defense:"You have no objections to this, correct "

[@amandameekhael]

She’s been doing this since the first day. She’s giving hints to prosecutors when to object lol. It’s so obvious.

[@nolo3]

lol noticed that

[@paulnesbitt1698]

Is anybody aware of the judge maybe having some sort of long distance connection's to an Albert family member ?

[@cullertransportation]

@@paulnesbitt1698I don’t know but her bias is pretty obvious

[@bethlouden3333]

​@@paulnesbitt1698rumor has it 🤷‍♀️

[@haleymoncus5054]

I feel like the prosecution hasn’t proven anything this far except for everyone’s credentials and life stories

[@evolutionofcando379]

they proved the first witness didn’t notice a cracked taillight

[@chrissyf798]

I still have yet to hear anyone say this lady has homicidal tendencies or is violent

[@GooGooGal316]

Guilty

[@rsera42O]

They have proved there was a storm, weather was bad etc..also that everyone was drinking and there was a live band 🙄🤦‍♂️🎯

[@KTD1988]

And what if anything it was snowing

[@alyshiajohnson5356]

Madam court reporter is the real mvp of this trial.

[@AlishaMeadows]

Yeah right 🙄 she’s being laughing the whole time when the Judge sustain multiple questions that have no right to be

[@hawghead4596]

I need to show this to my daughter, she is wanting to be a court reporter.

[@mchii6633]

You would think the prosecution would try to prove something, anything.

[@16MedicRN]

It's sad and awful at the same time. You're supposed to start with your strongest witnesses and build on that evidence. Proctor, the ME, and McCabe are going to be the worst for the CW. I don't think there IS a strategy except to lose in the most dignified manner 🤔 Still, more evidence to come.

[@notsorryyouretriggered]

I keep waiting for the state’s “gotcha” moment to prove Karen’s involvement at any degree. So far they’re failing

[@thejeffmorrison]

They have proven that it was snowing, I believe

[@rmarvel169]

😂😂​@@thejeffmorrison

[@katiemae7076]

You mean besides they were a nice couple who were affectionate and their main point of contention was Karen spoiling the kids . . . 😂😂

[@MeadTheValkyrie]

The prosecution has proven that it was, in fact, snowing.

[@leticiaarbore2979]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Jessica_Crease87]

💯 lmao

[@Gambrellgirl]

Bahahaha

[@gemmacomb5372]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@KTD1988]

😂

[@rubycharlie4555]

trying to stay awake while the prosecution questions anyone....... gosh its painful....

[@angelicarmor0412]

😂 me too! I FF through prosecutions turn.... Saves a lot of time lol

[@SA-tx2kl]

@@angelicarmor0412well looks like someone’s mind is made up.

[@lb2645]

I've started skipping to the defense when the spouses come up. Clearly nothing new is being presented. This stinks to high heaven of small town brotherly cover up.

[@angelicarmor0412]

@@SA-tx2kl Actually I'm still on the fence. The prosecutor just seems to ask redundant questions, at least the little bit I've watched of him in the first couple of days. However, My mind IS made up that they did shoddy detective work. Seems like they did not go into the investigation with an open mind... Look at all angles first.

[@berrty]

I find it extremely difficult to watch while staying awake. I’m just here on the journey to the defense’s case.

[@mamag4160]

The jurors know more about the people who live there all their spouses and kids names and ages….. but literally NOTHING about the case🙄

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

And don’t forget how many beers they all drank at the bar, before driving home and/or getting into fights with civilians, sticking up for each other, all the while claiming they barely knew the person they stood up for ….

[@cathbooth1980]

…and don’t forget the weather

[@gretchensims6657]

And the road names and the clearing of snow from the curtain etc. It’s just endless and meaningless detail to the point it numbs the mind. I just wanna scream for this monotonous man to get on with it. Ugh

[@janelle5862]

Yes I agree

[@pbate08pvz31]

And the teams the daughters played for and their ages and where they sat at the match Bore off prosecutor, you are wasting the jurors time. Does he get paid by the day????

[@cathbooth1980]

Shout out to that court reporter…she’s doing all the exhibits and recording the transcript. I’ve never seen anyone do both?! I’d be such an anxious wreck!

[@PNW_KT]

Yes!!! I’m so impressed by her!!!!

[@anitavarley1975]

They always do both

[@cathbooth1980]

@@anitavarley1975 I’ve never seen them do both? Normally one is doing the transcript and another is doing exhibits…this woman is an awesome multitasker!

[@lyndaczika6327]

@@anitavarley1975no they don’t. Most trials a clerk does the exhibits.

[@KTD1988]

And if anything appears to be also eating an onion 🧅

[@hollyehughes3399]

This judge…smh…sidebar, sidebar, sidebar

[@CLASSYFlyGirl57]

Soo controlling. Let the freaking case flow. Probably her only case. She’s lazy. Getting on my nerves

[@davidtiessen7713]

today she offered an unsolicited objection to prosecution when she asked, "Do you want to object?" Surprisingly, they did.

[@DonnaJo3452]

You mean sidebah, sidebah, sidebah.

[@Nicolekt-1808]

She doing too much

[@africats2]

Right? It's absurd. I'm also watching the Christopher gregor trial. Now THAT'S a great judge!

[@catnpup]

Is anyone gonna tell prosecution the trial has started 😅😬

[@musictomyears6920]

Day 7: JO comes out of Waterfall with a glass 6:50:40. He is still holding glass in the parking lot, but then walks back into Waterfall 6:53:10. I think he finished his drink in the parking lot, then walked back in to leave the empty glass. Afterall, why would he take the glass, I’m sure he has plenty of glasses at home and wouldn’t need to steal one. Day 6: A broken cocktail glass shown as evidence 2:14:20. The Waterfall video showe that KR didn’t leave with a glass, and JO had no need to steal a glass. So whose cocktail glass is in evidence? Could it be that it came from the Albert house? Unfortunately we’ll never know because the police didn’t bother to check for a missing glass, shoe or hat.

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

Great catch and completely agree !!

[@shonabeggs4640]

Well said. Also Lally has asked everyone on the stand what John drank - bottled Bud light, and Karen - clear liquid in a tall skinny glass. Why would John walk into someone's home for the first time with a glass that wasn't his? For a man who was meticulous, clean, and liked everything just right? Not a chance.

[@user-bu3re7ft6i]

Great point! Bottled beer not a glass. ​@@shonabeggs4640

[@gemmacomb5372]

This !!! This has been bothering me so much. It must of come from the party and it was revealed with the leaf blower so it wasn't from when they found him, but from earlier that night to be covered in snow. So .... this has to have been from him holding it from the party itself ( house) or from the person who killed him who came out from the party 🙈

[@hawghead4596]

Who drinks bottled beer from a glass? Sorta defeats the purpose of drinking bottled beer.

[@amandakayanderson5532]

Prosecution's most important questions: "is your grandmother still alive?" "Did you check your mail January 29th 2022" "did your 16 year old daughter like school in 2022?"

[@destinielee5952]

I can’t believe the judge had the audacity to comment to the defense yesterday about “wasting time” because they hadn’t cut a piece of paper prior to handing it in 🙄

[@Howsoonisnow-to5nv]

defense is sloppy

[@MeadTheValkyrie]

Right?!! While the prosecution has not moved this case along in any way. All I know is Karen was completely distraught and everyone liked her. She loved John’s niece and nephew and spoiled them. Literally the defense just has to rest because there is NOTHING to the prosecutions claims.

[@cullertransportation]

@@MeadTheValkyrie yep reasonable doubt without calling a single witness. I think the prosecutor must have lost a bet and the consequences of losing that bet was having to bring these charges and do it all live-streamed lol

[@cullertransportation]

@deatinielee5952 she’s totally biased. Defense loses more objections than they win (that they should be winning) and the prosecution wins almost every single one (especially those he should be losing) but if that’s not enough to prove her bias listen to her tone. Whenever she addresses the prosecution she’s warm and friendly but whenever she is talking to the defense the warm friendly tone is gone and there’s an edge to her voice. The tone difference is pretty obvious and clear to hear

[@MeadTheValkyrie]

@@cullertransportation I think his bad haircut is also part of that losing bet. 😂

[@libralillyknits]

Prosecutor should feel thankful if every juror doesn’t despise him by the end of today

[@haleymoncus5054]

We already do 😂

[@kingduran007]

Same with the defense lawyers also and the judge

[@PNW_KT]

@@haleymoncus5054he said the jurors. 😂

[@KTD1988]

@@kingduran007defense attorneys are outstanding

[@mamag4160]

This prosecutor asks the most meaningless questions!!!! Ridiculous

[@Cat_herders]

I find it crazy how people will drink 3,4,6 drinks and proceed to drive…

[@MrsTadeo-mi1cb]

Seriously. You would think police know better.

[@JennyLouLou]

Insane. I cant even stand how I feel with one drink let alone that many. Icky!!

[@hawghead4596]

If the cops catch you driving drinking 3, 4, or 6 drinks you are going to jail.

[@GooGooGal316]

And hit someone.. oh wait……she did. Narcissist

[@ilibili7489]

@@GooGooGal316well, the trial is finished and they still didn’t proved one ounce of that. But, go on.

[@JoanneHorwitz]

54:20 can’t fathom what about being accepted to a high school has anything to do with the case? Am I missing something??

[@angelicarmor0412]

Ridiculousness

[@musictomyears6920]

They went to the bar to celebrate the girls acceptanc into the private school

[@thedaviszone5187]

Yep the adults went out celebrating!!

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

@@thedaviszone5187all the cops were out drinking and then driving home to beat the storm. They are just making the PD look even more despicable

[@hawghead4596]

They went to the bar often so why would them going that night be any different?

[@JazzyScat]

Again cameraman shows the witness in the dark instead of the video on screen. 🙄

[@my2cents581]

Camerawork is infuriating🤬

[@kandithomas2857]

These questions are ridiculous- nothing to do with murder

[@amandameekhael]

They don’t have anything else to ask lol.

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

I love when the defense decides not to question some of them. Just further proving how pointless it would be/is.

[@gypsyqueen411]

​@@user-nj9db2tg9wI think the defense is questioning mostly law enforcement to get them on record. There's going to be a lawsuit against the state and local police. I would bet on it.

[@Energymc2]

They are setting a foundation.

[@tanyaconley7375]

Oh my word!!! The prosecutor is asking the most unnecessary questions!! “How many high top tables in bar?” “How heavy is glass?” “Was there a live band?” 🙃😆. What, if anything, does that have to do with anything???

[@JennyLouLou]

Lally is so far out if his league. I'm shocked he's a prosecutor.

[@jarcher6586]

The prosecutions witnesses seem to be more like defense witnesses

[@SLOAngieBabie]

Where is DNA, accident reconstruction, medical exam, etc????? I’m still of opinion the bungling cops, fire, EMT, neighbors, friends couldn’t frame their way out of a snowy paper bag with instructions in hand!

[@ugleebuggs7597]

Calm down. They haven’t exactly rested yet.

[@MyMagpie]

A snowy paper bag with red solo cups of evidence. Ugh!

[@davidtiessen7713]

oh its an extremely well organized attempt. Scary alarming. Only Read's parents selling their house so she has this brilliant defense. They've left no stone unturned, revealed so much. 3rd party culprits and friends did not see this coming nor their Canton reign of control coming to an end, but it will, this exposure spreads like cancer. It will be fatal, to many.

[@DonnaJo3452]

“Evidence” bag or “stop n shop” bag”?

[@DonnaJo3452]

It’s all over but the crying’.

[@lynnnickerson6676]

The judge needs to go....

[@mazie7952]

Oh yes.

[@EarthlyEmpress]

Judge is a bias cow I hope the jury see right thru her

[@TheGdav0202]

There are a TON of issues for appellate court if a conviction is found. She's just corrupt.

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

As a woman, she is an embarrassment to all women and just proves the mindsets of people who think women should never be in charge or hold positions of power. She’s an incompetent disgrace, as they usually are.

[@ilovetati91]

@@TheGdav0202 that's absurd

[@dublintoo]

I found it odd that Jenn kept on texting JO to come to the after party. Asking if he was coming?? It sounded to me like she was luring him to the house???

[@TopCat8877]

John and Karen arrived at the house just behind Jen. Jen went inside but K and J never went in. That’s why she was texting him, wondering what they were doing out there.

[@EffervescentSunflower]

​@@TopCat8877no one but jen knows why she was texting him

[@TopCat8877]

@@EffervescentSunflower They have the text messages asking him why they aren’t coming inside the house, what are they doing etc.

[@aes1492]

They followed jen to the house cos they didnt know where it was. She was just checking why they werent coming in.

[@rinaerasmus8803]

So if you are expecting someone to join you at your house, they are following you to your house, you know they are outside, but they never come in. Why don't you call or text and say, Hey it is cold outside, where are you, did you decide to go home instead?

[@angelicarmor0412]

Between the pace of this case & the "Treadmill/custody murder" trial... It'll be Christmas before they're over.

[@mazie7952]

That's true.

[@phoebeb.332]

Don’t forget about Chad Daybell 😂

[@ColorsFlight]

I am following this and the Chad Daybell trial

[@angelicarmor0412]

@@ColorsFlight I was going to follow that one but had a hard time seeing & hearing it, so by now, I've missed SO MUCH of it already.... Maybe gonna be one to binge watch when I can't find anything else interesting. That one had been going on for ... What, 3 weeks now? Have they been having half days & other lulls? Or been pretty consistent with witnesses, etc?

[@MeadTheValkyrie]

I’m following that one too. It’s painful.

[@ZachJAudet]

So it was common for John to take off his shoes when coming in and out of houses? So why wasn’t the closest house to his body checked?

[@violetpesev9403]

I cannot stand this judge. The bartender was on the stand with a few minutes to go and Bev just decides its lunch. WTF

[@chrissyf798]

This is taking forever. These questions are nonsense. How many seats are at the tables in the bar? Where do you purchase the alcohol? What does that matter?

[@KTD1988]

Was there a band? What was the name of the band ? 🙄

[@sharonsmith3687]

Why are they calling All these random people. Ridiculous

[@whartonitec1041]

Bc the kid who are witnesses to their fight in Aruba and the day before John died whe he tried to break up with Read are minors and likely will not be called to testify.

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

@@whartonitec1041 so why haven’t the parents been questioned about Aruba fight

[@FakeNewsNJ]

@@whartonitec1041they’re testifying.

[@FakeNewsNJ]

@@user-nj9db2tg9wthe kids parents are deceased John Okeefe was their legal guardian Karen was just the gf

[@PrettyEyezT]

So far no one said they were arguing in fact the opposite they were very attentive and loving towards eachother as well as no ones said she appeared drunk or irrational. Im waiting for a smoking gun. All ive seen is a botched police investigation from leaf blower to the red solo cups in a paper grocery bag placed open behind her vehicle next to a rag with brown stains on it that appear to be dried blood, which highly suspicious. i knew nothing of this case until it started so im looking at it as if i was on the jury. Also when they showed the glass yesterday i thought that the scratches on his arm very well could have came from that. And still cant rule out the defenses claims as of yet. The state still has to prove their case. I feel for the okeefes cause whether she is guilty as of right now I couldnt convict her however it may change. Justice for officer john okeefe

[@donna5815]

Things you may not know. I grew up a town over from Canton and I know for a fact that shortly after John O’Keefe was found on Brian and Nicole Alberts front lawn, they totally refinished their downstairs rooms, got rid of their beloved 7 year old pet German Shepherd Chloe, who was known to be aggressive with strangers, and sold their home. Brian Albert is the eldest of his siblings and they grew up in that 34 Fairview Ave home. It was his parents home and in the family for over 50 years. Innocent people do not normally do something as extreme as all of this.

[@PrettyEyezT]

Definitely highly sus on the homeowners part too and the fact they never searched that house or talked to everyone in that house is another thing I took note of. Like I said as of right now id say not guilty the state still has their whole case to prove cause the defense has caused reasonable with every 1st responders testimony as well as the conflict of interest within the Albert's and Canton pd. At the same time justice for O'Keefe his family may never know or get the truth as tainted as this whole case is

[@PrettyEyezT]

Also I'm just going off what they have shown in court as of rn as if I was in the jury.

[@therandomguy1861]

@@donna5815isn’t Brian Albert a trained MMA fighter as well?

[@tobybyrddash2322]

She is absolutely NOT GUILTY. The stupidity of these officers trying to frame her by saying oh it was her but we aren’t capable of investigating properly because we were all drunk. I call HOGWASH. They killed him their dog attacked him and they put him out there to finish him off. If they had gotten him help he would have filed charges against them and they couldn’t have that. They wanted no one to know what they did to him.

[@cullertransportation]

OMG STOP THE “What if any” who if any” ALREADY! dude isn’t in any danger of leading questions so he doesn’t need to be doing it and it’s SO ANNOYING

[@blucky1250]

This PROSECUTOR is ATROCIOUS at his job!

[@MyMagpie]

I think cuz he has nothing!

[@leahbia82]

Could be as bad as BINGER!

[@sandcastlesp]

I think I need to take over the case. He is indeed frustrating and really bad!

[@MyMagpie]

@@sandcastlesp I’ll vote for you.

[@slavetothebritishempire6403]

Part time working hours! The judge had made a point of saying aboutnot wasting jurors time, how about doing a full days work!

[@dublintoo]

The Murdaugh trial.....Monday through Friday with maybe a few short days here and there 9:00a to 5p and sometimes longer. This one must have dinner reservations set up by 4:30 everyday.

[@CLASSYFlyGirl57]

Exactly. She’s lazy and too controlling

[@aes1492]

She has other cases and duties to attend to.

[@slavetothebritishempire6403]

@@aes1492 These are all planned out way in advance! It’s bad for the family of the murdered victim, extending their agony of sitting in court. It prolongs the time Karen has to go through this stitch up and it prolongs the time jurors are having to sit, make notes and remember everything. Wouldn’t surprise me if this kind of thing is deliberate, against an innocent woman being stitched up by the state!

[@KTD1988]

@@aes1492sure

[@EffervescentSunflower]

Judge should have recused herself due to knowing witnesses

[@my2cents581]

Agreed, they all know the judge as Aunt Bev…no Bias here folks.

[@wls1020]

We have been over most of his questions 1000x wtf

[@jMci726]

With my general knowledge of the case putting all the crazy connections and possible conspiracy aside I feel like they absolutely do not have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that she intentionally ran him over and left him for dead. However I do find it weird that she woke up and immediately was absolutely panicked. Like I would just assume he slept the night somewhere bc he was drunk and dropped off. He had a lot of friends so to immediately be frantic is a bit suspish to me.

[@wls1020]

Because it was out of character for him plus he had 2 kids that were on teams, usually Saturday s are game days

[@Gambrellgirl]

I agree. My other sus comment from her was that when she went out to "look" for him, she said in TV interview that she drove around the two blocks in the neighborhood. If she dropped him off at the Alberts, why didn't she just call or go straight over there? But yes, there's not (so far) any evidence beyond a reasonable doubt and lots of suspicious law enforcement activity.

[@lyndaczika6327]

Because that’s probably when she was coming out if her drunken stupor.

[@roxdarmurray6634]

Record for most sidebars.🙄 When, IF ANYTHING ever, is the prosecution going to make a POINT??!🤦‍♀️

[@lyndaczika6327]

You obviously didn’t watch the Jodi Arias trial, the defense was ridiculous.

[@pennymoon8113]

The prosecution hasn’t proven anything to me other than how well known the Albert family is in Canton. The defense has proven shotty police work and the fact there were no public display of fighting or disagreements between Mr. O’keefe and Karen the night that’s in question. This is the most boring case thus far ever. I’d hate to be a juror!! Bring on the nitty gritty parts that truly matter. Testimony from experts, DNA, autopsy results, etc….please!!

[@dublintoo]

Oh it's coming. This is just the commercial before the real movie starts.

[@haleymoncus5054]

The defense doesn’t even need a case at this point…. 😂 the prosecution is building that for them

[@cullertransportation]

None of the prosecutions witnesses stories match there’s subtle yet strong differences in each one and seriously asking the same questions to witnesses who are married and testifying one after the other is what is wasting time. We haven’t even heard from the hospital staff yet but I swear we have heard from every police officer on the Canton police force and Every firefighter/paramedic on the Canton Fire department. I had a friend once call this “prosecutorial overkill” and he said they tend to do it when they know they’re going to get beat bad at trial so they hammer all the little details hoping we won’t miss not being told enough of the big important details.

[@BostonMA781]

Adam Lally said on 5/6 in court (at the 7:23:05 hour mark of the L&C stream) when arguing why the Lapolito case is so far removed/not relevant… Lally says “It was a single incident in which he (Lank) did not witness anything to do with the Albert brothers. Uhh Christopher Albert was never at 34 Fairview Rd on Jan 28th or uhh until much much later in the day of Jan 29th and certainly not at the same time Sergeant Lank was” Lank said on 5/7 in court (at the 02:09:22 hour mark of the L&C stream) that he went back to Fairview (for the third time) after receiving a call from Jen McCabe shortly after 9am. Chris Albert said 5/9 in court (at the 59:00 min mark of the L&C stream) that him and Julie went to Fairview sometime after 9oclock. By Chris Albert confirming he was at Fairview the morning of Jan 29th with Julie, it proves Adam Lally lied on 5/6 to the court.

[@Jessica_Crease87]

If caught in a set up, ALL these people would be charged! I can't fathom ALL of them lying and putting themselves in jeopardy knowing they would all be in big trouble! And with so many involved someone would slip up and say something!?!?

[@PRINCESSDREAMYLYN]

Those sirens are annoying, very distracting. Someone tell the judge to mute her mic all that thumping is annoying. Are they doing that on purpose?

[@angelicarmor0412]

It's driving me nuts! The constant rattling! 😵‍💫🫨🙃

[@mazie7952]

And judge moving around in her chair Bending over yesterday Someone said she was texting If that's true about texting she should be removed. Very annoying with her sidebar She'll be in Guinness book for the most sidebars for one trial.

[@whartonitec1041]

The cops are protesting

[@bette882]

@@angelicarmor0412 me too!!

[@Pamkkw]

How do the text messages about the girls being accepted help their case in any way???

[@MS-qk8zh]

Lunch and breaks ARE ALWAYS during the defense

[@my2cents581]

It is purposeful in order to disrupt the rhythm.

[@markhenry15]

WHERE IS THE CELL PHONE DATA? It would surely show in 2 seconds that he was either moving around after she left or their phones were together then his phone stopped responding after she left..... just the fact they aren't reporting this is super shady. Not Guilt for sure.

[@tanyaconley7375]

Prosecution doesn't want that evidence bc later he tries to dispute accuracy of the program when defense airs the dirty laundry!!

[@gypsyqueen411]

They must not have the money for cell phone data extraction. 🐟🐠🐡🐠🐟🐠🐡

[@hollyrochford]

Is the prosecution going to show an animation or layout of the property where John was and how they believe Karen hit him? I just can't imagine him being all the way over where he was found.

[@BethFed]

It was just a few feet from curb

[@libralillyknits]

I’m confused as what they’re trying to prove with today’s testimony? That she had a clear cup with clear liquid ? They threw a bunch of ppl on the stand to say Jen & John were very lovie to each other that night…the opposite of what you want the jury to think

[@PrettyEyezT]

Jen and John?? 😂 Wow now that would be a plot twist

[@masonjeffers8529]

😂 😂

[@TheGdav0202]

@@PrettyEyezT It would make a more interesting trial that's for sure!!!!

[@davidtiessen7713]

@@TheGdav0202 more interesting?? This is right out of hollywood.

[@MrsCCake]

@@PrettyEyezT😂😂😂😂😂

[@cathy1672]

I feel sorry for this jury, I think I would have faked a heart attack to get out of this trial!

[@MyMagpie]

😆

[@mabhulo2263]

Why though?

[@dublintoo]

@@mabhulo2263 You're kidding....right???

[@vitalucas9452]

😂

[@EffervescentSunflower]

😂😂😂

[@JazzyScat]

So John's friend drank 6 beers and drove under the influence to pick up his kids.

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

And the other friend drank 6 beers with him and drove home to “beat the storm.”

[@Marilyn88-]

Thought the same exact thing😢

[@MeadTheValkyrie]

@@user-nj9db2tg9wall because he wasn’t a Puzzy. 😂

[@janelle5862]

Right!!

[@anitavarley1975]

Drinking bud light to vodka is very different in alcohol content and he said about 6 he didn’t remember exactly how many they had

[@MS-qk8zh]

They just all be drinking and driving???

[@Jessica_Crease87]

Anyone who goes to the bar does! It's not a shocking discovery.

[@my2cents581]

Yep, zero consequences when you’re corrupt and the law doesn’t apply to you.

[@Kimbo-y3s]

Who goes out and drinks 9 vodka drinks in a snow storm???

[@kingduran007]

Really

[@Anna-cx4tg]

The same type of person who throws a fit when she sees her bf hugging the widow of his late best friend and long time work partner

[@my2cents581]

People who don’t concern themselves with risk or consequences.

[@OnyxMoon1]

This judge needs to just keep it rolling instead of breaking ever hour ..

[@dublintoo]

But they are wasting the jury's precious time? 1/2 days, clock stops at exactly 4, 5000 sidebars, court doesn't begin until close to 9:30 sometimes.......what a joke.

[@gypsyqueen411]

She must have a weak bladder. 😅😅😅

[@T-coon]

Lally is a "Plant" for the defense 🥳😁

[@usapatriot9289]

lol 😂

[@bette882]

Im waiting for them all to hug and go for drinks! He has proved nothing and he has it he acts like a wuss

[@iamtomkills]

What did I miss? Settling down now to watch day 7 of an intriguing trial.

[@mabhulo2263]

What parts have been intriguing for you then? Just wondering! 🤔

[@iamtomkills]

@@mabhulo2263 first up I haven’t made my call. I like to watch all the evidence and pretend to be a juror when I watch trials. Now, the intrigue so far as a non pretend juror - the police investigation is pathetic, rather non existent and smells a bit rotten. A lot of memory loss plus the female fire fighter paramedic did nobody any favours as far as prosecution. The judge has a back story. The unqualified prosecution objections upheld are strange to me. The defense are taking an approach such that they know a big hitting piece of evidence is coming against their client. This really is like watching a novel. I don’t mean to trivialise or dismiss the seriousness of the case. What’s your thoughts ? And thanks for the polite question.

[@teresamorrow2459]

This trial is nothing but a joke

[@musictomyears6920]

You missed the bartender testifying that she served them drinks, and the receipt was $16.

[@kayvee9094]

They found her guilty and gave her 20 years.

[@CLASSYFlyGirl57]

Where is cell phone evidence

[@angeez82]

Is the chick that lied on stand getting in trouble for lieing ???

[@notsorryyouretriggered]

The lying firefighter? No. She just gets away with perjury

[@iamtomkills]

@@notsorryyouretriggered that made me laugh out loud. Classic comment lol.

[@haleymoncus5054]

👏👏👏👏 exactly!🎉

[@ilovetati91]

well, for starters she didn't lie.

[@CLASSYFlyGirl57]

This judge don’t like working

[@naffoff]

The judge doesn't schedule the trial, the court admin does. Judge is working other cases simultaneously

[@Jessica_Crease87]

Her huffing and puffing is insane! She huffs constantly!

[@kingduran007]

This is ridiculous poor people in the courtroom

[@gretchensims6657]

Mr Lally please for the love of all just get to the dang point.

[@wls1020]

This witch always finds a reason to interrupt the defense constantly

[@maureenmcconnell5592]

Bunch of drunks

[@billiefitzgerald8338]

The judge seems crankily hard of hearing. I mean, I've been there, but everyone seems plenty loud?

[@falcosirrus8620]

Who did Read call first when he didn't return and what was she like during that call? It seems to me that if she called the Alberts first and they said he never came in, then she could be distraught. However, if she was already distraught i would find that suspicious as it is a grown man that she dropped off at a party so there would be no need to be distraught that he wasn't home yet, unless she knew the reason he wasn't home is because she hit him and drove off.

[@lynntucker8179]

Karma will come full circle People think they get away with things. But sooner or later the shoe Drops.

[@PrettyEyezT]

Or the shoe gets found

[@ZachJAudet]

The shoe is inside the house.

[@AlishaMeadows]

Why is the judge coaching the prosecution witness? She shouldn’t tell her if you don’t know the answer don’t answer it. Never in my life have I ever heard a Judge say that.

[@tanyaconley7375]

The attorney friend that was at bar seemed to be very sure O’Keefe and Read were very lovey with each other. He emphatically said “absolutely” about them being affectionate.

[@shannan34]

I have yet to hear anyone say anything bad about them as a couple or any problems they were having. But, few of these officers or whatever you want to call them have been fights and even used their badges to get others out of fights

[@aes1492]

Umm, you obviously missed the bits about her screaming at him in aruba and starting an affair??

[@shannan34]

@@aes1492 no maybe you should re watch

[@cindymarie67]

About 6:48:45 the tapping on the table? I wonder if that’s the Judge or the witness?? 😳😬🙄

[@Sherry-hk2vs]

So one of the first EMT ‘s to the scene under oath stated that the male person they had been dispatched to tend too as he was in conscience laying in the snow, stated the person was dressed appropriately and even mention in the back of the ambulance that PO O ‘Keefe had a puffer jacket on when they were talking about cutting his clothes off.. as seen in this video of moving his truck okeefe had a sweatshirt on, and this witness said he never knew O’Keefe to ever wear a jacket . Houston there’s a problem. Also the last witness a Lt from Canton police dept said he doesn’t know if he even put evidence tape on the bag with evidence from the scene, or if he knew how to put evidence tape on the bag, the Lt, stated he didn’t know. In the picture the police evidence bag was wide open sitting on the floor of the police department garage wide open. Houston we have a problem.. I am not nor have I ever been a police officer, however I have a degree in criminal justice, evidence collection and storage was one of my classes. That is evidence should have been in a closed container, than put in the bag, the top of the bag folded and evidence tape wrapped around the top of the folder bag, with his initials put on the ends of the tape, there is also an area of the bag that asks the evidence number po bagging the evidence, the date, incident and d where the evidence is from at the crime scene… If and I say IF this lady in some way gets off these charges it because of those involved that did not fulfill their job duties. RIP Officer O’Keefe !

[@Kay-fv7cw]

Okay, this is my take on this. Karen was angry and drunk and did hit him with her SUV. Thinking that he wasn't hurt, she left him at the friend's house. When he didn't come home, she realized she really did hurt him and went bizzurt. I say this because why would she immediately start streaming when she calls people. I think she would be concerned, but ask if they know where John was? She didn't do that because she knew what she did!!

[@my2cents581]

How do you account for all the corrupt police and first responders? Also why would she give him CPR if she wanted him dead?

[@annapietyra3792]

I absolutely agree with you, nobody starts screaming and panicking like that unless they know what they have done. You would be concerned, you would call around to check but you would not be frantic and scream like a lunatic…

[@annapietyra3792]

@@my2cents581she gave him CPR once she has realised what she has done, hit him and basically left him to freeze to death

[@MeezyZK]

Damn, these friends/acquaintances are so attentive and observant of each other while hanging out. They remember the details as if they were part of a movie. Do people really recall that much detail from a random uneventful night out 2 years ago?

[@gypsyqueen411]

The cops/emt's don't seem to remember anything.

[@sythmc8600]

Look at the puffy jacket one responder found at the scene on an Albert - while Albert is getting liquored up and sparring with his friend at the bar! WTF That was a huge win for the defense!!!

[@EffervescentSunflower]

😳😳😳😳 I'm watching today's testimony now

[@pjhannes6009]

There's nothing to the play fighting going on.

[@DonnaJo3452]

I immediately saw that! I wonder when the defense is going to point that out?!

[@DonnaJo3452]

@@pjhannes6009 The point they are making is Brian Albert was wearing a puffy jacket, which one of the EMTs said they cut off John O’Toole. And multiple people have said that John O’Toole does not wear jackets.

[@sythmc8600]

@@pjhannes6009 - It isn’t about the play fighting. It is that one of those “play fighters” is wearing the fluffy blue jacket the first responder on the scene said was the victims except the victim wasn’t wearing a jacket and the fluffy jacket guy had a beef with the victim.

[@teddyhomerun]

Because of her micro managing, tight, school marmish style, the Judge is proving the defense's claims of cover up/ frame up.

[@annapietyra3792]

Another strange thing was how much she was panicking and freaking out… nobody presumes the worst straight away. He could have gotten really drunk and was sleeping somewhere, at somebody’s house. She knew what she has done so she was putting up a show…

[@elenamunoz6541]

Is not the Dead man carrying a glass while exiting bar in the parking lot?

[@amyfay5791]

Yep

[@cynonthechat]

Yup!

[@cdub5527]

Yep but they want to try to say it was Karen's broken glass at the crime scene.

[@kayvee9094]

Yes the glass he was trying to pick up when he got out of Read's car before she backed into him. She texted him fu I f'ing hate you. Such a sweetheart.

[@musictomyears6920]

Yes, at 6:50:40

[@PrettyEyezT]

So only one person seen john leave with a glass.

[@kingduran007]

In the video

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

@@kingduran007exactly. Obviously no one told him to leave it there and seemed to allow it, as it’s something they probably all did often and also may have done that night as well… we just didn’t see in in the video

[@kingduran007]

You think Karen would be upset seeing John on the videos For the last time

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

Then if she cried, everyone would rip her and say it’s fake tears and she’s only crying because she knows she did it and blah blah blah. She can’t win either way. Showing emotion or not showing emotion. Everyone interprets both of those things to mean different things. So your point is moot.

[@kingduran007]

Poor family to see their son and brother for the last time in the video I feel bad for them I hope they find closure

[@gretchensims6657]

She would have watched these videos over and over and over again with her attorneys. This is not the time for tears when you’re surrounded by people who are literally judging every minutia about you.

[@angimari459]

His family hasn’t showed emotion either

[@gypsyqueen411]

When I saw how they handled the evidence I saw how they bungled everything. Red Solo cups? Are you kidding? Placing them in a grocery bag, not an evidence bag? Wow.

[@clthomp2]

Anybody know what the flashlight feature the defense uses on the video around 6:00:00

[@LoveFree333]

When they were leaving the bar it looked like Karen and John were comfortable together while Jennifer McCabe was watching their every move. Very odd. She was watching them from the parking lot, looked calculating and not normal..

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

Agree

[@aes1492]

Oh for pete's sake. She was waiting for them to follow her to the house as arranged. Just listen to the evidence.

[@pbate08pvz31]

What time was the match, who did your daughter play for, where did you sit??? BORE OFF!! Useless information and a waste of time

[@Riawade2]

So you've got a whole bunch of people in this town that DUI all the time but it ok? Some even go driving thair children around while under the influence but get away with it because they have cop=connections?? How's this ok??

[@Jessica_Crease87]

Not just that town! Every bar in the country people go to are drinking and driving! It's not a shocking revelation!

[@MrsTadeo-mi1cb]

Poor Katherine. So sad.

[@gypsyqueen411]

OMG! How many sidebars does this judge need! 😡

[@angeez82]

I wish I worked this judge hours every day half day 🤔 do they get paid full day though ??? I do not see prosecutions case so far or am I missing something???

[@JoanneHorwitz]

She’s got other work piling up for her to attend to. What you see in court is only one part of what a judge does. There’s ex parte applications, reasons for judgements to write up, legal research, hearing the rest of part-heard matters that went over the allocated time, etc. She’s working a full day and then some.

[@lisadahlquist9501]

This judge sux all around she’s bored she breaths so heavy and always sighing like she’s agitated step down then let another judge hear the case!!

[@catnpup]

Prosecution doesn’t see their case either 😂

[@julieg1413]

Was his hat ever found?

[@007SAOPAULO]

Nope

[@ilovetati91]

Not understanding the second degree murder charge yet. Manslaughter, yes, but confused about the murder charge unless that evidence is to come

[@janedixon8491]

So there were no altercations between people that night while out at the bars?

[@dublintoo]

Nope

[@kingduran007]

They got in a fight in the car Karen read said

[@KTD1988]

What , if anything, was the weather that day ?

[@debramason7237]

I didn't think any sane person would be frantic, assuming the worst, when a grown man didn't come home. Especially when she knew how much they had been drinking. Being frantic and hysterical seems overkill, which is why I say she's acting it knew to assume the worst. I wouldn't behave that way concerning my husband of 38 years, and he's never been out past 9 p.m. without me.

[@wls1020]

She has MS which is known to not handle stressful situations well

[@debramason7237]

@@wls1020 at sad

[@Anna-cx4tg]

MS does not make you unstable lmao ​@@wls1020

[@BethFed]

@@angimari459everyone is in on it? Ridiculous. So many people testified to her erratic behavior. People who see others at their worst too (EMTs)

[@lyndaczika6327]

Poor “Miss. Gelman”… she has to do it all! 😑

[@PrettyEyezT]

🤔🤔🤔Jen told karen youre coming with me its a surprise

[@julesthecat.]

I found that very odd too wtf

[@MissX905]

Yes very interesting if true. What could the surpise have been? So what happened when KR didn't go in? Did KR see JO"K enter the house?

[@davidtiessen7713]

@@MissX905 yes thats what she's said from day 1. Dirty cops say the opposite.

[@gerurharardottir6107]

Did Karen try to call the home of the Alberts to see if her boyfriend was still there? I would have thought that would be the first thing to do or if not, to drive there to check before waking up other people.

[@peterfraser9070]

Prosecutor "Sort of" Lally is trying to play a losing hand.

[@thedaviszone5187]

So he didn't like it when Karen took the girls to get their nails painted? Omgosh all girls like to get their nails done. Why wouldn't he like that?

[@maureenmcconnell5592]

Waste of money probably

[@dublintoo]

He didn't like that she would buy them expensive things or take them to the salon to get their nails done. It sounds like he didn't want spoiled brats. He didn't even like it when she took them to Dunkin's .

[@DonnaJo3452]

Sounds like a tightwad to me.

[@thedaviszone5187]

@@dublintoo why would nails and donuts make them spoiled?

[@Cbreezzy]

I don’t know how long he had custody of the kids, but I think this has to do with “parenting” and him probably wanting to provide structure so bad that he might have been over bearing at times.. that is just my assumption though.. I’m sure he was just trying to do his best

[@gypsyqueen411]

I don't think Johns family believes the prosecution.

[@kathleenreichenberg611]

At 6:31 who whispers the defendant?

[@phyllishutchings1660]

Cops will be after him for drinking and driving and blame him for killing someone they got rid of also

[@MS-qk8zh]

He literally said not much longer and shes like nope lunch time.. lets make her wait around for 10min of testimony

[@rosannepalladino8230]

"what if anything...." WTF!!

[@CLASSYFlyGirl57]

Free Karen !