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[@futterbapps]

The 0.6 checkmate was awesome

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

Premoves whole sequence, takes a sip of water like nothing happened. Cool stuff.

[@GreenRayJC]

Wow.

[@toothlessrpm6177]

100th like 🤙

[@VitoBurrito]

That water swig after the first game 😂😂😂 that was so damn close, but you didnt even break a sweat

[@bajulybs9021]

Yea lol😂😂😂

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

Really strong player in the first game, even stronger engine in the second one

[@ACCCubes]

Lmaooo

[@starboii568]

😂

[@carlosfer5899]

@@cgm0826 That's the Jobava cheater 😆😆

[@KurtUwe]

@@cgm0826does he cook rice while playing chess?

[@cgm0826]

@@KurtUwe ?

[@darkjudge8786]

Dude wins by 6 tenths of a second and acts like its a Tuesday

[@SickSportsTv]

i was thinking the same thing😂

[@sabreTF]

that 0.6 second checkmate was cracked

[@dezraq1984]

I noticed that even after you finished deciding where to move you still explain why for a bit before moving the pieces. As I'm sure you've deducted, if you move and then finish explaining you will save quite a bit of time. I love watching your games and lessons by the way I've learned allot from you and I thank you.

[@Rubrickety]

In that first game, Nelson could easily have been an actual 1400, right up until the point where his opponent blundered the rook - after which no real 1400 could convert in 10 seconds.

[@MelloRoadToMaster]

Im VERY late but, thats because Nelson is very textbook.

[@2.0Migi]

Thank you for all the Videos Nelson! I love all of them! Your Videos got me to 1500 in just 2 1/2 Months :)

[@Almashina]

from 1480 or 1600? :-) (just a joke)

[@desmundreid3368]

I am loving these Speed Run videos. A lot of great details and tactics are reinforced.

[@chreeshawn]

LOVING these long chess streams. amazing!

[@Hotobu]

Second player was doing his own ratings climb.

[@munzee28]

First game was just awesome so close on time but still a win😮

[@BinkuSama]

39:50 pushing that pawn with the idea to trap the bishop is classic Jobava London.

[@PrometheanConsulting]

The thing about that cheater beyond the metered precision was just how lost he seemed to be in the endgame. Double checking every move with the engine to make accurate moves. His style didn't even change a bit towards flagging Nelson. Contrast that with Nelson's win in the first game. Once Nelson had that advantage, he just rolled a pawn for a second queen. There's no need for every move to be precise. The opponent could have simply traded the queen for Nelson's last pawn and rolled out 2 queens and there's nothing Nelson could have done. Otherwise, by putzing around with knight pins and the like, he's exposing himself to stalemate tactics (Nelson's king was blocking his pawn progress a lot and a knight sacrifice at the right time *might* have yielded a stalemate) and to royal forks. That's just risky play; even for a GM. It's not just the quality of the opponent's game... it's the discipline, rhythm, and style. Then looking at the player history... there's A LOT of 50%-60% sequential accuracy games AGAINST 1000ish ELO players... and then abruptly jumps to 90ish.

[@kingrex1931]

Yes, the accuracy jump in the last 6 games compared to the previous games is quite stark.

[@MinotaurvsCyclops]

Agreed, like Nelson said in the video a person of that calibre wouldn't overthink taking a free queen. Also nothing stopping them from h1 and just taking Nelson's pawns and making another queen, which even a 600 would be able to do.

[@pieter_holland112]

39:53 Alex Banzea plays this line all the time. I love his videos too so it’s not that weird of a move ☺️

[@billymuellerTikTok]

the adrenaline from the "cheater" seems to have cured your cough / sneeze

[@BarryLexington]

Nerves of steel in that first game of a cliff hanger. Why was I more nervous than Nelson? Congrats.

[@stefanosias7422]

Your podcast is amazing in every way! This is really educational I think, with live analysis and playing gradually stronger opposition.

[@anttt7993]

This isn't a podcast

[@stefanosias7422]

@@anttt7993 right, I meant stream.

[@DanielSong39]

Another idea would be to do a ratings climb in bullet, Nelson would play 5-10 games then dub the commentary afterwards If he encounters a cheater he can try the hippo. He might fail against the top cheaters using really good bots but he would succeed sometimes too It would be hilarious to see the various premove/flagging strategies

[@somebody7407]

1:04:37 stockfish like chill its just queen and Rook near the king 😅

[@shadeburst]

Game 2: Basic opening principles that I have learned from Chess Vibes. 1. Occupy the center (Check). 2. Get the minor pieces out as soon as possible (Well...). 3. Castle by move 10 to get your king to safety (Umm...). 22:50 h5 was hope chess. Even a crappy player like me gets 90 accuracy sometimes! Do I think you were ambushed, possibly, but a game like this is actually far more instructive because it shows what happens if you don't follow the basic principles.

[@WowExcellent501]

Still the mention of time is still important. Getting 90% accuracy with 12-15 seconds on every single move no matter how complicated or obvious is so weird

[@sampledude8846]

21:15 A legend is born.

[@johnrose1321]

Because I have seen a lot of IM Alex Banzea Jobava London content (I mean A LOT), none of the moves in the second game surprised me at all. I could see the responses to your moves before they were even played. It actually made me smile to see how effective they were against you. ggwp

[@doh-nc8ku]

That first game race against the clock mate was nice, that 3rd game opponent went through some crazy moves and sacrifices to get the rook on a8 haha 😂, very interesting position I like games like that, last game aggressive player too

[@rlevans0602]

Suspicious definitely. But GingerGM's previous course on the jobava london advised pushing the g and h pawns against the early bf5. So that bit looks less suspicious. But why is this guy only 1482?? Right to report him. The timings are way to consistent, even on obvious follow up moves.

[@anshumanp74]

I play the jobava got a puzzle rating of 2400+ still stuck at 1300 rapid I tend to make a lot of blunders, although I rarely lose when am playing the jobava london

[@christopherheckman7957]

He has only played 4 Rapid games (Nelson was the 4th), so there's probably not enough games to get a good estimate. (For instance, the USCF doesn't give you an official rating until you play at least twenty games.)

[@anshumanp74]

@@christopherheckman7957 oooh, I never checked his profile so can't comment on that but it didn't looked that sus to me atleast

[@rehanahmad1764]

I have learnt a lot and improved significantly since I started watching your climb series. Thanks :) :)

[@Nutslap]

the ending of that first game was unbelievable

[@jusjerm]

churning these out now! good stuff

[@Wtfzipcode]

its wild having seen this and subsequent speed runs live, and then coming back 10 months later to rewatch the speedrun and seeing the evolution of the ricecooker gambit live

[@DanielSong39]

The biggest surprise is that it took 156 games to come across a cheater Most of us were expecting one much earlier (There was a suspicious 400 and a suspicious 800... but at least they toned it down a tad)

[@jojonjef]

Cheaters normally wil be higher rated

[@TheJoker-rn8zc]

Well yeh but most of em get banned when they cheat consistently

[@JP-jd5vz]

1:04:37 😂😂😂 "Nope, im not going to play chess like that "

[@Kenjitsuka]

@41:00 they never banned this cheater, but his accuracy has mysteriously gone WAY down...

[@zfeazcesd1047]

I don't know if he cheated, but it's plausible to me that if he did, he may have stopped at that point due to the harassment and extra scrutiny. The reason I think that's plausible is that he reached his peak rapid rating here and then immediately plummeted 150 points. He has regained some of that rating, but he is still 60 points lower than his rating here. The rice cooker excuse for taking 12 seconds to play Bxb5 isn't believable. You can do it that fast if the water and rice is already in the cooker and all that needs to be done is flipping it on, but nobody does that, he would have turned it on when he put the water and rice in it. Also, rice doesn't take long to cook, it's not like cooking a baked potato in the oven where you need to start it asap. Presumably he is eating something other than rice as well, was he planning on preparing the rest of his meal during the endgame? It just doesn't pass the sniff test.

[@DanielSong39]

Nelson, you hung in pretty well against Stockfish Next time!

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

Impossible to win in this time format, but if it were blitz or bullet I guess Nelson knows to go for hippo and just play for the flag - the old chessbrah strategy, works well

[@davidshatto7604]

@@mariuszpudzianowski8400not impossible for super gms, but even then very unlikely. Naroditsky has managed to flag a couple players using engines in rapid speedrun games, but I think those players were also very slow to play moves from their engine

[@jojonjef]

@@mariuszpudzianowski8400by the time you know it’s an engine, it’s likely too late to play hippo

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

@@davidshatto7604 There was also that one dude who destroyed Danya then started playing without engine and stalemated lmao. Good times.

[@davidshatto7604]

@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 don’t think I have seen that one xD do you happen to remember the name of that video?

[@Thatoneguy-12]

At 28:07 you could counter attack and trade rooks instead of losing the queen by bishop to e4. If he takes with bishop you take the bishop with queen throwing him in check and forking the rook, if he put you in check and takes your rook once he takes it you take the rook with diagonal and his knight is stuck in the corner

[@AAABeatbox]

20:11 I wondered if you had stuck to your original plan of moving the pawn.

[@imrannajir5184]

By watching continuesly, 500 to 700+ and going up. Thanks for these amazing videos.

[@krstev29]

This videos are very educational

[@xhago605]

you are still bad , iam 1400 elo

[@imrannajir5184]

@@xhago605 DAMN 😁

[@frisky8548]

​@@xhago605you are also bad, i am 1600 elo. Git gud

[@CarlosMagnusson07]

@@xhago605no one likes you

[@JwolfDK]

@40:00 IM Alex Banzea has been going over this Jobava London line in all of his rating climb games. I would have played the same in response to your moves, until the brilliant knight b5 move (which I probably wouldn't have spotted), nor queen c3 after that. The timing of his moves was suspicious indeed.

[@fluffymoose1129]

the castle queenside counter-intuitive strat...I bet the second game player would've loved the third game

[@maglcman]

i love that you're playing the KID, thank you for doing this rating climb!

[@elperro3683]

Galadriel: currently 19-9-2; he must be a quick learner.

[@garyshow2005]

That pre-move stuff blows my mind every time. Even if I knew how to enable it, I'm not sure I would know how to do it. Like when he move the g pawn all the way down the board in one motion and it automatically filled in the moves. That's the only way he could win.

[@davidczajkowski5956]

Would love to see a video for lower ELOs with a segment focused on end game mate moves. So much focus everywhere I watch on openings, and it’s made me a much better player…but I can’t close out games effectively. Give me two bishops and a knight vs a king and I’m running him in circles. Would love to know how you mentally approach some final mate moves.

[@amber.k]

1:04:42 stockfish is very daring 😹😹😹

[@alexiusangelfire]

At 5:40 rook to E1 is a FAR better move. Would defend the pawn, IF they take it pins the knight. Allowing you to take the bishon on D7 with yours if they did. So many tactics.

[@firstlast8858]

Stockfish at depth 21 has the position as +1.2 after Nc3 compared to +0.6 after Re1. Black isn't forced to take the pawn after Re1, and if he doesn't then Nc3 is simply a better developing move

[@intellectuallyinsane]

Let's believe for a moment that Galadriel97 saw that knight move so quickly. Finding it quickly is not suspicious, but playing it so quickly definitely is. Any other player would spend at least a minute thinking: what if this knight sacrifice doesn't work? What if Black doesn't accept the sacrifice and comes up with some solid counter-attack. It's impossible to think all that in 10-15 seconds. On such a move, a player is likely to spend at least a minute. Maybe two or three. And this reasoning itself proves that there was something suspicious going on. Another thing is: all White pieces were perfectly aligned to make that move possible. The Black didn't have even a single escape. I mean: that's Stockfish level stuff.

[@kingrex1931]

The fact that he played the obvious follow-up of Bxb5 in the same amount of time is also suspicious. He processed Nb5, a very tactical move, very quickly, yet it took him a while to play Bxb5. He was lightning fast one moment and slow to move the next. He took just as long to play BxD7, winning the Queen.

[@Frank-ih9ew]

Wow.... .6 sec checkmate!!! That was slick

[@magictriambakam]

Thanks for your vids! Learned some good things. I think if you want to save time, maybe explain more with arrows? Works for Eric Rosen.

[@gnana_s]

Can you please play the queens gambit?

[@joocatcher]

Game 2, It's Alex Banzea's Jobava chessable course, it's a pretty common position. But the time spent on certain moves is suspicious.

[@99Dragonborn]

@1:03:34 tactical castling

[@uthoshantm]

18:45 that was cloooose!

[@jrosen2776]

@11:40 y not go after hanging knight from pawn movw w q?

[@miked2125]

So at the 1:58 mark you put your white bishop on B5. HOW is it even possible that they dont move up their pawn to A7 threatening your bishop? Forces you to move to A4 or move back to possibly C4. Either way, thats where they lost the game. Changed everything i think. Also. why did they at 1:30 move there Knight to from D5 to B6? What a pointless move. How are they rated in the 1400's ? Back to back waysted moves. The people i play aint that stupid and their rating is much lower. Mine too. Is there something i'm missing? Splain Lucy ! Thankjs

[@omchopade4060]

26:44 at this moment why you don’t go for Bishop f5 after that you can threat checkmate!?

[@geerttimmerman6985]

your content is amazing, keep it up man

[@BeatDemon08]

Been playing chess for about 4 or 5 months now. I just learned that you CAN castle with a rook in line with your own queen side rook. I've even stopped my nephew from castling once because I thought you couldn't castle like that, but you just can't castle if an opponent piece is blocking your KING! I feel stupid 🤤

[@uthoshantm]

42:00 Indeed suspicious but you never know for sure.

[@doh-nc8ku]

1:03:31 wow castling totally forgot about that I mean pawns are completely fucked, enemy pieces are right there castling there is scary so that’s why it got overlooked 1:03:46 yea

[@gnana_s]

Can you please play the pawns gambit?

[@AAABeatbox]

28:35 knight to a6

[@Dr.Ngegitigegitibaba]

Game 1. Wins with .7 seconds on the clock. Cool takes a sip of water...

[@penguinymous6570]

Nelson At 28:07, why isn't the following playable? Your move: Q-d7, (also defends the back rank knight) black can still fork the rook and the king, and if doing so, pins the white bishop to the queen, K-e7 white knight can still take the rook (but is stuck in the corner) you can throw in a Q check and get your knight to safety. You end up down a rook but up a pawn. and still playing? Thanks for the education. (even though I have probably missed something in my analyses)

[@kudeku1296]

What if you just dont take the knight or retreat the queen so that it protects the c7 square? White has nothing. You could also push your a pawn and the knight would just drop back. I don’t understand why nelson was afraid?????

[@huakesh]

Qd7 just loses a rook, while in Nelson’s line you get a knight and bishop for queen. That is slightly better because two pieces will be better able to create some counter play in the middle game. Though against an engine, almost impossible to see a tactic that engine doesn’t see.

[@Amira-ye6bv]

Thank you man for this amazing video ❤ please keep it up🎉

[@AAABeatbox]

Hold up. Isn't 9:56 check mate? Sac the bishop check, then move knight to g5 check, then queen to b5 is unstoppable checkmate? Can someone help me here I want to know if I missed something... if they move pawn f7 it's still covered by the knight. If the rook moves aside then queen h8 is mate.

[@Thatoneguy-12]

What is queen to b5 gonna do lol

[@matthewodonnell6906]

I watched your other video about the first game before this one & think I was wrong. I did think of the knight move as a 1500 myself, but only after I paused the other video & stared at the position for a good 30 seconds or so knowing there was a suspicious tactic to come. Here, your opponent definitely seems suspicious, particularly in regards to the time usage during follow up parts of the tactic & for fairly obvious moves near the end of the game.

[@irajh.h4826]

Thanks dear Nelson

[@mrmuffinz158]

First game he couldve very easily lost bcs worse pawn structure ( that seemed like a bad queen trade then the forced bishop knight trade after ) and his opponent somehow just had terrible endgame skill despite being 1450

[@gnana_s]

Can you please play the pawns ioni?

[@The_Otis]

In the 2nd game, Queen to D7 would have saved Nelson from sacrificing his queen. Rook still would have been lost, but the queen did not need beheading.

[@KimiiiRaikkonen]

I'm getting stressed by all this talking about "not gonna spend much time on each move to fall back on time" then you spend 2 minutes on saying that during your turn rather than doing a move. Insane speedrun towards game 1

[@cablestick]

You're the best Nelson

[@christophercoleman8823]

If you see this message before your next recording I would say to save on time make your move First then explain. Or explain As you're making your move. In one game you spent 35 sec explaining the move you was going to make when you could have mentioned it first, made the move, then continue explaining on your Opponents time.

[@intellectuallyinsane]

Dear Nelson, I have noticed in your previous few videos how your chess board is blurred. It used not to be the case in the past. While your cam video shows nice and clear in HD, the chess board and pieces are blurred. It would be great if you could fix it. I even mentioned it once on your live stream and a few other viewers also noticed the same issue. Thank you. I'd also like to mention how this series is the best series on KZbin to learn chess. Thank you for all your efforts.

[@ChessVibesOfficial]

Can you timestamp where it's blurry? I'm not seeing it on my side I guess.

[@intellectuallyinsane]

@@ChessVibesOfficial Hey. Thank you for the reply. Actually, the board seems blurred during the whole video. In each rapid climb video, it is a bit off. It's not super blurred, but even at 1080p it seems like the board and pieces are displayed at 480p or at a slightly higher resolution. I watch the videos on a laptop.

[@Mr-Hoot]

@@intellectuallyinsane You might be having a weak connection or something because it looks pretty clear to me.

[@christophhorth2813]

I like your channel but this was no cheating but a Standard jobava London line at the beginning.

[@mikeslimjimlim]

Maybe try 15 min games like danya? Love these videos

[@jamesmccabe3041]

Have you considered playing with an increment? It would help with the time pressure.

[@DanielSong39]

Nah this is better, makes for better content

[@CST1992]

The "increment-haters" would be booing him to no end. I play 15|10 myself because I like to take time to think and now after 500-ish games I can play 10|0 technically speaking, but I still stick with 15|10. That way you can take 10 seconds to think in the endgame regardless of how much time you have remaining.

[@DanielSong39]

@@CST1992 As an "increment-hater" I love seeing dirty flags and I think it's a great part of the game

[@ศกรโสมาภา]

I do think the guy might be a cheater but up until he wins the queen it’s possible that he just knows the opening. I’m also around 1500 and I do know about this line (Jobava London) despite being e4 player. I think some other KZbinr show it. Alex Banzea if I’m not mistaken.

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

At some level you have to know Jobava cause it can destroy you in couple moves if you don't.

[@ศกรโสมาภา]

@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 I actually don’t need to know it. This is because I play 1.d4 c5 (Old Benoni defense) and if white still want to go into London they’d need to play c3 (e3 blocks in the bishop) which removes the option to play Jobava London because you can’t put knight on c3 anymore.

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

@@ศกรโสมาภา Ahh, fellow Benoni enjoyer. Nice to meet another one.

[@kyz6227]

I watch Banzeas Jobava London videos, nearly all of them and I’ve never seen this line. Maybe I’ve missed it and I don’t want to say this guy is cheating

[@doh-nc8ku]

Why couldn’t you go knight a6 to protect that c7 square vs the cheater? wouldn’t change the outcome but not considered, why?

[@LouBoogaloo]

"I don't want to waste time by over talking"... .6 sec checkmate.

[@UnMondeRiant]

1:03:40 how can stockfish castle queen side while there's a rook in the way?

[@perfectyoutuber8557]

You can castle if your king doesn't go through check which in this case, it doesn't. However, the rook legally can go through check.

[@UnMondeRiant]

@@perfectyoutuber8557 aaaah right, I thought the whole space between the pieces had to be cleared from any checks, thx for clarification :)

[@perfectyoutuber8557]

Kind of like you can still castle if your rook is under attack. You wouldn't say, "oh why can you castle if your rook is in "check"?". The rook is irrelevant. It's the king that can't be in check, go through check, or go into check, when castling. I hope this makes sense.

[@perfectyoutuber8557]

@@UnMondeRiant no problem

[@Michael-cz2rf]

I am suspicious of gadriel. 93% accuracy in a game that long is hikaru level stuff. Nelson is also 2200. A 2200 doesn’t just lose to a real 1400 level player. Would be like a 1000 level losing to a 400. Took it with class though. Keep up the good work 👍🏼

[@Cyberangel39]

He is a friend of mine (I'm his chess teacher), sent me this VOD. I probably would have reprted him too because of Bxb5 taking such a long time (he said he was turning on his rice cooker at that moment). But, to be honest, the rest of the game looked pretty normal. Nelson just blundered his queen and there was nothing he could do anymore. Just for the info, he always plays this slowly.

[@davidshatto7604]

⁠​⁠@@Cyberangel39I find this hard to believe. I am at this rating level and perhaps it is true that this person is very underrated but Nb5 is not a move that I expect anyone at my level to find, and certainly I don’t think I would have found it

[@DaveLK2000]

Nelson premoved the queen without checking all the options the way he usually does, so I think he just missed a line the opponent saw.

[@pauladkisson1138]

It’s also pretty distasteful to immediately throw around cheating allegations on a SMURF account - like c’mon… I love these videos, but Nelson is basically cheating against everyone he plays! I know the rating points get refunded but it’s still not really honest play.

[@ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣΣΙΔΕΡΗΣ-δ9γ]

i am more suspicious later on that nelson was left with a pawn and a knight and he gave him the chance to fork his king and knight twice... and he did not find it...i mean i cant believe he found all the other moves and missed the one in front of his face ...38 30 or sth like that the timer@@Cyberangel39

[@JosephSeymour-f2p]

when black pawn moved to d6 id prefer to move black square bishop and force the queen and hope he makes a mistake lol

[@Carl-s8o]

In the crucial position of the cheater loss how about Moving knight to A6 ? Looks to me like it neutralizes the attack.

[@JReadyStayReady]

Where does he stream at?

[@kruksog]

I dont like the hoard of people shouting cheater. It certainly doesn't look good. Take a wait and ser approach, thats all I'm saying. I assume we'll get an update if anything newsworthy happens

[@christopherheckman7957]

Especially because of the "boy who cried wolf" story.

[@carlosedwardos]

no, it was definitely cheating, he found a series of moves that even a GrandMaster wouldn't find, and he found them all in 12 to 15 seconds each 🙄

[@AAABeatbox]

Isn't pawn f6 a free bishop? 1:13:45

[@specialuset8022]

Nope, the bishop can go to h4.

[@JacklBlack]

did Galadriel97 get in trouble for cheating

[@robertbrandywine]

Galadriel97 hasn't been banned so I guess the PTB decided this game wasn't too egregious to be impossible.

[@hilarycraig5360]

Thank you I was wondering

[@mikusgermanis8836]

In the last game, how could you castle queen side, if the rook is looking over it ?

[@Isabelamendesyt]

I love this man

[@kudeku1296]

At 28:37. What if you just dont take the knight or retreat the queen so that it protects the c7 square? White has nothing. You could also push your a pawn and the knight would just drop back. I don't understand why nelson was afraid????? What do i dont see

[@alemansa]

The knight will go to c7 regardless as its protected by the bishop, that will fork king and rock, instead of being rock down he prefered the 2 pieces for the queen.

[@kudeku1296]

@@alemansalol bishop sniper out of nowhere. Didnt even see that bro

[@codeofsilencecos3334]

Sorry to ask but I don't see a link for it, on which platform do you stream ?

[@WowExcellent501]

It’s so late but he just streams here on KZbin

[@kimbirch1202]

You missed N A6 to protect the Knight fork.

[@Oscar-mi7yi]

1:03:27 how can you castle queenside when whites rook is attacking squares between your king and rook?

[@specialuset8022]

The king isn’t castling through check or ending up on a square where it’s in check, so it’s possible.

[@aamirrashid1145]

And it is not in check

[@fluffymoose1129]

is it possible to force a stalemate against an engine?

[@saberspeed77]

Maybe play 15 | 10 time control so that you don't find yourself in a time pinch while narrating.

[@danielyuan9862]

I'm sure Daniel Naroditsky plays in that time control, but clearly, that means the games are going to be longer. His videos are just as long as Nelson's longer speedrun videos, but they're only one game. But to be fair, he does go through the game more thoroughly. It makes sense though, since he's a GM and probably has more to say about a position.

[@ItsAllAboutGuitar]

There is virtually no chance you see Nb5 and then miss Qf6. Plus all those other brilliant moves. I'd love to see stiff penalties for such things, like a $10k fine.

[@thjeyam]

looks like opponent was aware u r live and got hints from urslf n won

[@PrometheanConsulting]

Wow! O-O-O(!)... that was pretty sweet. I wasn't looking at anything like that, either. I thought the check and then the block was best And then ... Kd8 defense, too. Yeah, Nelson. You're not alone in that "weakness". I didn't see either of those candidate moves, either.