LIVE DEBATE [Your god is Imaginary] 1/26/2025

[@ScarlettdeFlor]

Even if you grant that the idol didn’t come from inside the house, an idol is now in the house.

[@TheGoddamnBareBear666]

😂😂😂😂 "you mean like a monster?..."😂😂😂😂

[@anonymouse4793]

With my experience talking with religious people online, many have a limited vocabulary. I wonder why? Is it because they only read one book?

[@DadeMurphy666]

My dude!!

[@davec-1378]

That is the 5th time I’ve heard on one of DZ videos someone not know what “demonstrable” means.

[@blade_warrior_blue]

​@@anonymouse4793They dont even read that book! 😅

[@blade_warrior_blue]

​@@davec-1378😅😅😅

[@Clogmonger]

That poor hurt lady towards the end there.... that's why it bothers me so much when people act like deconstruction is just something we want to do so we can be atheists and have a grand ol' time sinning and blaspheming. It hurts to lose faith.

[@SongoQ911]

it didn't even cross my mind that I would start to lose faith. I couldn't believe it and it's still hard for me, although not as hard as at the beginning. mostly it's anger, disbelief and sadness. from week to week I'm getting better with my thoughts, often so different from what I had some time ago.

[@Pooknottin]

It didn't hurt me one bit, but it was trialsome after that living my life among the faithful.

[@JesusGarcia-bu7tf]

I can certainly understand how it can be hurtful to those losing faith. But history has shown that faith has caused far more damage to the world, especially to those who didn’t have belief in a particular god.

[@Pooknottin]

@ Exactly. Besides, I've lived my entire life in fear and pain because people who believe in this kind of thing consequently have to believe that people like me should be eradicated.

[@BigDaddyMan83]

I feel for the woman at the end. It's a difficult process, but it gets so much better in time. Justin, you're making a real difference to people and your reach will keep growing as you keep an honest, critical approach to the Bible and make it accessible to us knuckle draggers

[@robweis9]

I didn't think the call with Ken was going to recover from "demonstrable". I hope he gets a laugh out of that too if he listens back to it. Cool caller.

[@JasonHenderson]

55:25 yep. And these exact reasons are why the Hebrews were pushed into banking roles. Because they could charge gentiles interest.

[@A.HWasRight]

Look what's happening in Palestine.

[@phantomoftheveganflatland6148]

Hebrews own all American politicians

[@SapientCephalopod]

Justin, you need to offer "Theist BINGO Cards" as a fundraiser. Some labels for the BINGO Squares: 1) "Words don't mean Words" 2) "But if we presuppose...." 3) "You just want to sin" 4) "But you are just looking at the OT" 5) "But the 'New Covenant'" 6) "I used to be an athiest" 7) "We are a Christian Nation" 8) "I had an experience" 9) "You can't prove God doesn't exist" 10) "You were never a 'true' Christian" 11) "Free Square" Alternatively, this would make a great drinking game. These people are so predictable you know exactly what is going to come out of their mouth next.

[@CharlesPayet]

Justin probably doesn’t want to risk any listeners dying of alcohol poisoning, so the bingo card is a safer option.

[@waggyquack974]

Don't forget: 12) You're an atheist so you don't understand the true meaning 13) But what was that word in the original language? 14) What translation are you reading from? 15) The only true word of god is the King James Version of the bible. 16) It's just not possible unless god did it etc

[@joelonsdale]

Can I add "So you think the universe came from nothing?"

[@SapientCephalopod]

@@joelonsdale I was hoping people would grow the list. This is a good one. My other favorite is "I just can't imagine a universe without God.", then 60 seconds later when they find their imagination "So let me tell you about my sky fairy and his very specific rules.........".

[@CrankyOldCuber]

The second guest is a freaking national treasure, I think. I missed the live, so glad you leave the lives up!

[@WolfAmongstRavens]

Arock! Praise Doug!

[@jamesdunbar4164]

A black man (Ken) defending slavery is wild work my guy!

[@joelonsdale]

A *human* defending slavery is pretty wild!

[@JasonHenderson]

Just a black Christian is pretty wild.

[@A.HWasRight]

Millions of cows pigs chickens slaughtered in death houses are being enslaved tortured murdered for humans taste buds

[@AndyOrr-u5r]

Why do so many xtians not know the meaning of demonstrable?

[@JasonHenderson]

@@AndyOrr-u5r because if they did then they wouldn't have an excuse for not being able to do it 😮

[@paulsweeney6166]

She may be pissed at you Justin but you're doing a good deed. You're opening people's minds to critical thinking.

[@BlueDrankDionysus]

Christ this is brutal

[@porkyboy4226]

But well called for!👍

[@JasonHenderson]

Don't take the lord's name in vain

[@DadeMurphy666]

14:51

[@patrickparker4576]

I was super jazzed when Justin went live yesterday evening and super disappointed that I couldn't watch any of it because I got constant buffering circles on KZbin. Even now when they are posted, those bits are cut out of the video. So whatever he's using for KZbin didn't work properly all evening.

[@CharlesPayet]

Yeah, I couldn’t listen to the live because of all the buffering.

[@JasonHenderson]

It's the Mike Tyson fight all over again.

[@catbill1822]

Hope to hear from Ken again.

[@DadeMurphy666]

5:15

[@GallonOfBlackToothh]

@@DadeMurphy666 yo dade

[@waggyquack974]

Listening to the poor lady at the end exposes how damaging and wicked the christian church can be. It's painful to listen to the testimony of people so broken and deceived by their religion.

[@nollattacykel]

The hurt lady at the end is a living proof that religion is the biggest scam in history. I really hope she can use her anger to grow without religion.

[@JadedzUzi]

In regards to the first caller, the verse says it was a household idol... I'm using the TLV version though, my mother helped to write it...sigh.. I would love to hear your take on this version sometime Justin. =) It seems like they are really steering towards messianic but yet they use the greek translations which is SO confusing to me. Thanks for ALL you do, I've been able to point out some things in confidence to my parents =) I really appreciate the way you're able to keep calm too!

[@Pooknottin]

Short and sweet one. Now for the next post.

[@anonymouse4793]

Cloths stuffed with straw would be an idol in those day.

[@Etty-c5b]

Around 40:00 so let say David was in NYC . Suddenly there are cops surrounding the apartment. He jumps out to the fire escape. His wife wisely get out of the front door, goes over to the neighbor to grab a 20 kilo bag. She comes back into the apartment then put the bag into David’s bed as a decoy. Yup such a smart wife 😅😅😅

[@totallyrandomhorror]

"scientists do it for money or fame" Please.... how many rich, famous scientists can you name? Neil Degrasse Tyson? Now... how many rich, famous evangelists can you name? Copeland, Olsteen, the Grahams, Falwell, Swaggart, Bakker, Robertson... Idk hmmm who does it for the power, fame and fortune? Clearly the billionaire scientists.

[@blade_warrior_blue]

"Is it bad to 🔪 babies?" Chistian: "So, this one time i saw a squirrel and my aunt Maurine said..."

[@patrickparker4576]

It doesn't make sense that that lady would be mad at both the people who lied to her and the person who told her the truth.

[@JasonHenderson]

10:36 Near-Death experiences are not convincing. If someone has an eternal death experience that would be something. But if we ever find a body that has been dead for 4 days and we resuscitate it, kind of like Lazarus, they probably won't even say anything about it, kind of like Lazarus did. He never mentioned his experience at all, and it was so mundane that none of the gospel authors bothered to mention it.

[@anonymouse4793]

Delusional guy is stuck on the word idol. In this case it would be like a prison break where they put an effigy in the bed. To fool the guards Embarrassing that this guy is stuck on this.

[@joeoconnor7725]

All energy is connecting by the power of distribution and transformation

[@SongoQ911]

equilibrium

[@Primordialtruth666]

The f are you on. Shut up you dont even have any point. Whachya gonna say next the snow is white cause xyz like shutup u sound like a bot

[@lucaskin1]

It is wild to me how English mother tongue people have less vocabulary than me…. Demonstrable …. You mean is a monster???

[@tuomas8426]

I was thinking the exact same thing😂

[@Disturbed0neGaming]

The first guest's entire argument was an argument from incredulity. The amount of stuff he doesn't know about science and reality isn't evidence that his imaginary friend is real. That's the argument of a small child, not an adult.

[@totallyrandomhorror]

The idol had to have been reasonably large in order to be a convincing decoy for a man

[@michaelwhite8119]

I’ll say again, this Joe Rogan time in society where people say, “I do my own research” meaning, “I don’t like what I’m hearing so I’ll believe something else.” First caller accused Justin of creating context and again another Christian who just can’t accept the definition of a word in the dictionary. “We’ll hear is what I think it means.” How narcissistic?

[@davec-1378]

Joe Rogan and his ilk are destroying the fabric of our society. The anti-intellectualism is getting to “Idiocracy” proportions. Instead of President Camacho we have something much worse; a narcissistic ignoramus con man. At least Camacho recognized others as authorities and asked for advice from them.

[@przemeksledziewski1973]

Never do your own research. Always trust authority figures. Never question the official narrative. Don't dare think for yourself. Your body, their choice.

[@lordfrieza3792]

What about heat death? As far as I know, that's favored by more cosmologists and people in the field rather than a big bang big crunch model. Has something to do with our understanding of the shape of the universe.

[@SongoQ911]

Heat death is linked with entropy and the Second Law of Thermodynamics. However, other potential fates (like the Big Crunch or Big Rip) depend on factors such as dark energy, the universe's expansion, and unknown physics.

[@MisterRorschach90]

I have tried to explain this before. However our lack of understanding of dark energy still makes the crunch a possibility. And for Justin’s argument it just works better.

[@patrickparker4576]

These guys are right, until we understand what is driving the expansion, there's no possible way that we can predict whether it will flip. Currently we're calling it dark energy, but it's not dark. We're just calling that because we don't know what it is. Furthermore, everything within the universe seems to operate in cycles, so I don't see any logical reason why the universe itself wouldn't do the same, especially when added to all of Justin's logical premises about how matter can't be destroyed and there can't have been a time before time.

[@phantomoftheveganflatland6148]

Eric Dubay 200 proofs earth is flat.

[@MisterRorschach90]

@@phantomoftheveganflatland6148 all of which are easily debunked

[@JasonHenderson]

8:00 there are many good exjw channels. But the destruction of tire is a good one, first and the date of the destruction of the first temple. Because they put it 20 years different either way for some reason? I don't remember why, but it completely destroys JW theology. They say it 576 instead of 584 or something like that? I can't remember. It's been a few beers since I looked into JW theology

[@diandian9827]

Justin, can a moderator please clean the channel comments of this ridiculous flat earth troll who is spamming using multiple accounts? It's clearly one guy with no life. Thank you.

[@johnjones-d5z]

free Palestine Free free Palestine.

[@reluctantheist5224]

Charles Taze Russell...

[@anthonycowherd7595]

Can u please speak on Isaiah ch 18 the first paragraph referes to the Ethiopians as terrible but in other Bibles the same verse calls then smoothed skinned tall warriors

[@Deconstruction_Zone]

It says "feared" instead of "terrible" in some translations because fear and terror are synonymous

[@WoffgangHowlin]

Sounds like a brain just idling on

[@catbill1822]

Patpat 907, You are smarter than you seem to think.

[@JavaAndroid]

Know what I'm sayin'? ...... nope.

[@steveyuhas9278]

"Errbody talkin bout how 'oh slavery bad and you can beat em'.. Not like they could just go getta job at MICRASOFF!!" What, is this like a bad "slavery apologetics" Chris Rock standup? This guy sucks lol.

[@annestephens9631]

👋

[@shekelBerenstein]

eric dubay 200 proofs earth is flat

[@DanSk451]

Is “idol” the only meaning? It sounds like she put what we would call a dummy in the bed as a distraction.

[@johnjones-d5z]

earth is flat.

[@Deathhellandthegrave]

I am a Nihiltheist. I have a testimony.

[@Deathhellandthegrave]

There is no creation. I'm so sick of hearing about the creation.

[@BossRedRanger]

Creation is a short sighted, primitive concept. Who created the creator? It becomes a recursive nightmare.

[@HadelToma-z7y]

​@@BossRedRangercoming from a gorilla butt is insane , evolution big bang is insane that's why it's all taught in schools. Someone or a group of gods designed these bodies , I don't care what your government approved scientists say.

[@HadelToma-z7y]

The beauty of women alone is a work of art masterpiece , how can you as a man sit there and possible deny this dumb dum.

[@Deathhellandthegrave]

@@HadelToma-z7y there is no filthy god.

[@A.HWasRight]

​@@BossRedRangerwe don't have to know who made the creator to think some god or gods made these bodies . Who made the earth it just appeared out a gorillas bunghole??