Live Production Cables - HDMI vs HDMI Fiber vs SDI vs Fiber

[@cah88]

My speakers don't work, but luckily this guy speaks in sign language with his hands so I could understand what he was saying

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

You can always turn on the captions, or slow down the video if that would help. -Nathan R

[@steveloux4709]

Great overview. Thank you.

[@quantumangel]

Ethernet is actually a network *protocol* the cable is called *twisted pair* (as in "utp cat6").

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

Thanks for Sharing!

[@azbaroj]

I need to transmitter video signal 600 feet away from the source . Source video was SDI . I used an SDI to HDMI converter , then HDMI to AV/bnc , a 600 feet RG6 and at the end bnc to HDMI and HDMI to projector . Quality was a little bit degraded but not so bad , but cost was a fraction of SDI .

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

Video over Ethernet is also an option. Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should do it. I hope this setup works for you. 😀-Nathan

[@azbaroj]

@@CrazyAmazingDesigns It will also work for you , through coaxial cable you can send av signal up to 1000 meter. I tested it up to 1200 feet from an old DV cam to projector without any kind of amplification .

[@BillAshtonNelo]

Very inventive. Respect ✊

[@richardsparks9904]

Excellent points! Amen!

[@SiEmon_E]

Thanks for this very useful advice. I just bought a Canon XA60 and was shocked to find out it only has mini hdmi out and no sdi whatsoever. I need it for streaming a church service on Facebook in a small building where about 30m of cable should cover it. I would appreciate advice on the simplest and most cost effective way to achieve this, thanks.

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

@@SiEmon_E You could return it for an XA65. Which has SDI, or use converters to and from SDI.

[@SiEmon_E]

@@CrazyAmazingDesigns OK thanks for response. It was shipped from overseas so that might work out expensive for me. I am going to explore fibre hdmi running into a live stream video mixer and see what results I get.

[@RoadJournal]

Nice job!

[@kganandh]

I've one source with HDMI output and 5 destination input should be in HDMI. Each destination is minimum half mile away from the source so i need suggestion in fibre optic Can you suggest ?

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

Hi Kganandh, Could you send me an email(in Description). I would love to get more details about this project. -Nathan

[@zaftra]

i got a fibre hdmi for the xbox and it just makes the screen go fully grey every 30 seconds or so.

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

Usually for something like an XBOX a Fiber HDMI cord is just fine to use. It could be a bad cable, I would check the XBOX on another TV (Rule out the TV), then check the XBOX with another Cable (Rules out the XBOX), then try the cable on other devices (Rule out the Cable). -Nathan R

[@zaftra]

@@CrazyAmazingDesigns it's fine with the blu ray, found turning off the Dolby vision in the xbox removed the problem, why I don't know.

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

@ Yah! I’m glad you found the issue.

[@hiltonvibes]

please advise on the robustness of hdmi fibre cable. can it survive people walking over it?

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

Hi Hiltonvibes! HDMI Fiber cable is pretty strong, I'd say that it can handle some people walking over it on accident, but I would never willingly allow people to step on it. With every cable there is a limit, and Fiber cable is a lot weaker than a copper core cable. I would highly recommend some sort of walking cable cover, One time I ran real fiber not HDMI, but same concept. We ran it about 1,000 ft across a park during a music festival, we ran it through conduit where people might walk over it. Worked great to protect it. -Nathan

[@liquidsunshine697]

Im so confused. I have a 4070 ti and want to conenct to LG C1. I initially got a 25ft Hdmi copper eithernet cable? (Traditional) then cancelled and got a Fibre Optic. I want to retain HDR, 4k@120hz capability hopefully i made right choice at that cable lenghr

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

HDMI 2.1 can do 4k@120hz, so make sure your Fiber HDMI is 2.1 -Nathan

[@KLRCAT]

There are a lot of pros and cons to all these cables, but it all comes down to "Use case". Fiber - Amazing, Robust, with an insane distance the cable can go (Ideal for TV and Broadcast Vans) [Expensive once you consider converters and everything else] SDI - Reliable, Robust workhorse cable of the Broadcast industry. Locking connectors, easy to repair and terminate. [Expensive if you are consistently converting to HDMI] [Good for installs] HDMI - Good reliable cable that works great at short to mid distances (Best to stay under 10m), cheap cable but near impossible/not worth to fix. HDMI Fiber - Great cable for HDMI based systems (ATEM, mini/extreme series switchers) [Expensive and can be delicate, so best kept on a cable drum to extend its lifespan]. I personally use a mix of HDMI and HDMI Fiber (my HDMI cables stay under 10m, and my HFMI Fiber runs only need to go 30-40m at most), as ALL my gear uses HDMI, so converting every input and output would get ridiculously expensive. Ideally I would prefer to use SDI, but that would require me getting about 15 to 20 converters for all use cases.

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

Love it, Thanks for sharing! :) -Nathan

[@laahah1]

Will using a Fiber HDMI get me faster information while playing the game than say i use a High speed HDMI cable??? Like in advance thank you!

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

No, It will not change the noticeable speed.

[@Ioraek]

For me SDI is certainly not cheaper than HDMI fibre. Looking at a 30 meter connection and assuming a decent cable brand like Canare L-4.5CHWS, I'm paying $200AUD, and that's shopping around. Add a Blackmagic converter ($110AUD) on each end and my total is $420AUD ($275USD) In comparison I can by a Cruxtec 30 meter Optical HDMI cable for $95AUD ($62USD)

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

Great! Glad you found something that works. -Nathan

[@Ioraek]

​@@CrazyAmazingDesigns If cost weren't an issue, or wasn't as big a difference, I would prefer SDI though. :)

[@Marc_Wolfe]

So much of this talking out of your ass could be replaced with "that's outside of the official spec for that connection, so good luck". Those undersea intercontinental cables use to be copper.

[@CrazyAmazingDesigns]

lol! Thanks for stopping by :)

[@Marc_Wolfe]

Hop in a woodchipper. There, giving back the same energy but no mask of arrogance.

[@BillAshtonNelo]

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