Live Service Games in a Nutshell

[@alcatraz2981]

Goblos are sentient beings too. *If you see something, say something.* Every year, up to *150,000* goblos are abused by free service game companies; blizzard put them on the critically endangered list with the release of Diablo immortal. Together, we can save goblo lives.

[@adudeontheinternet5739]

they've been getting mas executed by epic too

[@jamesgoines4635]

Goblo lives Matter

[@Tenchinu]

Ubisoft and Square go through Goblos like toilet paper

[@Egitheegg]

Hmmmmm, I mean I could help but then my 800 goblos would have to go

[@ericevans1148]

As the local goblo slayer, I can attest that they are not sentient beings but pests!

[@mrdee2454]

What hurts me is when they purposely make a game boring and grindy to buy their added content. Than say you don't have to buy it, but they will purposely make a terrible game to make you want too.

[@jarrod752]

_Skinner box._ The word you were looking for in the industry is _Skinner box._ It's effectively creating a piece of media that's more addictive than it is fun.

[@nitothefunkybunch6938]

destiny 2

[@Vulcanfaux]

I think its worse when they make a decent game let you have fun for a little bit, then after lets say 2 hours you hit that wall. That pay/time wall

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

I see you've played Total War: Warhammer 2

[@kakagakakerger4165]

war thunder

[@Onyxs]

The fact that everyone has their thoughts on what game this video is supposed to be a callout on really says a lot about the game industry

[@xbigbooshx4643]

It's why i almost exclusively stick to single player titles now. Also, indie is still a great source of new and quality gaming. AAA multiplayer games are becoming almost entirely live services with a plethora of microtransactions and buggy, unpolished launches.

[@einfangirl2351]

made me think about destiny 2. They remove content and weapon I EARNED and paid money for just because they want to add new content that gets deleted anyway sooner or later. I wanted to introduce my friend to it but its just not fun when your the hero of a war you were never part of and an extremely emotional quest becomes worthless because you never got to meet the character.

[@mewacyboi]

@@einfangirl2351 I understood it more as Halo Infinite seeing as how that game fits the check list. Released about 9 months ago? Check. Almost no quality of life improvements despite said 9 months of farming money via item shop? Pretty close yep. Constantly replacing staff? A little on the nose but damn it’s accurate.

[@Solesteam]

hmmm... nope, not a single game popped into my mind that fits this, all the games I have with in app purchases are purely cosmetic, and in one, said cosmetics can be gotten through fun and meaningful challenges or online gameplay anyway. However that one game some of the stuff isn't cosmetic, but all of it can still be gotten through gameplay and while it's a tad pricy with in-game currency, it's no problem to unlock everything with it's enjoyable gameplay.

[@danielmbg]

@@Solesteam But that's exactly what the video makes fun of, the fact that live services games will most often focus development time on cosmetics and all the other stuff that makes money while ignoring quality of life updates and game improvements.

[@elevatorz89]

The worst part is when the game eventually shuts down with no offline mode, essentially making your purchases useless.

[@Arkansym]

Mobius FF :( I miss that game so much.

[@Igor369]

With some luck the game will be revived for free after 10 years like battleforge.

[@elevatorz89]

@@Igor369 Unfortunately not every game will have that dedicated of a revival effort.

[@zensoredparagonbytes3985]

It sad too few people realize this

[@rad-toonz6727]

True

[@keynanmartinez]

60 Years Of Video Games Has Come To This.

[@Md5offical]

Bruh

[@keynanmartinez]

@@Md5offical Don't take it seriously just a joke.

[@nobodyinparticular9640]

@@keynanmartinez nah, this ain't no joke, it's the truth, sadly

[@keynanmartinez]

@@nobodyinparticular9640 Lucky not all games are like this.

[@S1lvo_]

@@keynanmartinez which game isn't then?

[@Ultramanchan]

I love how the green goblo is also laughing despite being shot

[@jarrod752]

At least when you get shot at blizzard, they drag you over and let you bleed to death on a pile of money!

[@crazyfriend50]

So how do you suppose he is laughing and not sobbing

[@jarrod752]

@@crazyfriend50 Because, when the boss laughs, if you don't want to get shot again, you laugh.

[@fatcat1250]

Getting fired at is better than getting fired.

[@crazyfriend50]

@@jarrod752 but he is shot How do you laugh when you have a hole in your chest Goblo built different

[@plantyt3246]

The symbolism is amazing. The first Goblo, shot and presumed dead was also presumed to have been dragged away by another worker, only for it to be later revealed that the worker did not finish their job of dragging Green Goblo away, and whoever shot it also didn’t finish their job of killing it, just like how they didn’t finish the game, leaving Green Goblo in pain just like the game’s audience

[@a.rustici1972]

That’s pretty deep. Nice job analyzing!

[@plantyt3246]

@@a.rustici1972 honors English does that to ya. Whether you like it or not

[@ArDeeMee]

@@plantyt3246 Aw, rip. =)

[@OmegaHeroLegacy]

Soon, cosmetic shops WILL be the game, and actual gameplay will be DLC. Of course, you'll have to pay extra to import your skins from the cosmetic shop into the actual gameplay.

[@watashiwa3255]

stop giving them ideas

[@peabrain6872]

Conspiracy type nonsense

[@distractor-bane-5487]

I fink that it all ready exist

[@Amexy-mr6lw]

I want to believe this is just an exaggerated joke and this wont actually happen

[@someoneudontknow3709]

I think that's just diablo

[@hyper6500]

QoL actually means Quantifying Our Loot

[@jarrod752]

I thought it was a _quick only little_ update.

[@Reikoku.]

Quantifying Our Lootboxes

[@do3807]

Those slow looks at the piles of money, before the execution were downright menacing

[@davitto01]

Another 6 months down the line: "Welp, I think we've squeezed as much money as we can from this stone. Our player base is now stagnant at 2,000 players. Pull the plug on the servers." Goblo: "sir, should we at least remove the always online DRM, so they can still play the game offline?" **shoots another Goblo**

[@xbigbooshx4643]

battlefield 2042 moment

[@futuza]

*3 Years Later* Goblin: "Sir, the game we made into abandonwear three years ago, has been revived by the modding community. They reverse engineered the game and removed the DRM and add new quality of life and feature updates every few weeks and don't charge anything for it. The mod has only been out for a few months, but Steam shows our player numbers have jumped into the tens of thousands since then. We've made an unexpectedly large amount of money since we shut the game down." King/CEO: "They what!? Sue the fuck out of those thieves and hit them with a DMCA for copyright infringement and breaking our terms of service." "But sir, it's just like three nerds and they aren't making a cent from it, or even asking for donations, but they've made our game start selling again in record numbers on Steam since we stopped supporting the game, are you sur-" *Bang*

[@hazukichanx408]

"We'll call it 'sunsetting' the game, or some other beautiful romantic euphemism for 'shitting on every idiot who paid us money through our shady-ass cash currency scam'. We'll thank all the players for their passionate engagement and ask them to look forward to our next scam game, so we can fuck them all over again. They won't learn. They're idiots. We can do this forever."

[@LutasticLu]

@@futuza This king saw free money, and just did the math and said ‘If we sue them, we can get MORE profit from the case. Man, I’m proud I self-taught myself math.’

[@SirPembertonS.Crevalius]

Live service is only around because it works, it makes companies a ton of profit. Diablo Immortal still made a shit ton of money despite the bad press. Don't support poor practices.

[@chronix7946]

Sadly, Whales are gonna be whales...And they'll be the reason we stop getting games and instead get money sucking programs

[@jonnysilia5740]

sadly it's one conscious consumer versus the hordes of "don't care i got more money than i ever need anyway" people.

[@MasterLoki1991]

diablo immortal did not make a "shit ton" of money if you compare it to other mobile games. the reason it had the launch it had was because of the IP and nothing else. the damage it has done and blizzards reputation has tanked further thanks to it. live service isn't the issue here either, and you dont know a company isnt going to keep supporting the game the way it promises till after you have invested yourself into the game.

[@Sonichero151]

@@jonnysilia5740 actually it's more like hordes of people so beaten and battered by the despair of living they will mindlessly clasp onto anything and everything that can give them even a drip of dopamine to stop from ending it all

[@Greetings-r6f]

I can't take you seriously with that profile pic... but you're right.

[@w_out7631]

If Halo Infinite monetizes Forge my soul will just dust away

[@Drebolaskan]

Every franchise I loved and grew up with as a kid has already been ruined with greedy cash grab schemes or changed to conform to 'sensitive' modern politics these past couple years, I'm surprised there are still people with their soul still intact

[@HyperImaginative]

I'm hearing rumors that it won't so I hope that's the case.

[@ljthepirate170]

Don't give them ideas

[@cjkhis1037]

Yeah, that will suck. Those 3 guys that are still playing will be so sad

[@ZEEshiggerRUSH]

Uuuh Mr. Circle i dont feel so good...

[@stormfox7592]

I can’t wait for point and click adventure games to have a battle pass

[@randomperson5512]

SHHHHHH don't give them ideas

[@jimcobbler3954]

“Let’s add 5 new premium vehicles that completely break the balance of the game, then take 3 weeks to nerf them so everybody gets a chance to buy them” -WarThunder devs

[@Aeondromach]

“Let’s add 5 new premium [ITEMS] that completely break the balance of the game, then take 3 months to nerf them so everybody gets a chance to buy them” -every online game

[@mig25interceptor26]

Gaijin moment

[@Lopiile]

“Let’s add 8 new premium tanks to the game despite premium tanks outnumber standard tanks! Since also we have a policy to never nerf premium tanks, we will make them completely destroy what little balance is left in the game!” - Wargaming

[@BlackoutGootraxian]

@@Lopiile fcm pak at tier 3, tier 8 premiums with more armor than tier 10s... and a fuckton more

[@jimcobbler3954]

“Let’s add loot boxes that have a 1/1000 chance of giving you a vehicle!”

[@mantiscoregaming6699]

Best analogy I've ever heard about games as a service is: Its like buying a burger. Back in the day you got a burger that's complete with all the fixins. Nowadays, when buy the burger, all ya get is the patty. Ya gotta pay for the bun, condiments and topping individually.

[@JamesTDG]

Hold on, isn't McDonald's doing exactly this?

[@mantiscoregaming6699]

@@JamesTDG indeed!

[@laszlo3547]

And buying the burger does not guarantee the bum, condiments and topping are available or will be prepared. In fact if the company reserves the right to take back the patty too.

[@andysnyder3844]

25¢ bbq sauce at McDonald's and burger king

[@THEEND4444]

I remember when games had cool cosmetics you could earn by actually being good at the game or finding secrets. I spent months with friends doing the Halo 3 vidmasters to unlock Recon Armor and payoff was an actual feeling of pride that I worked hard for it.

[@TheGreatTave]

Couldn't agree more. I'd rather pay $60 for a game and earn the cosmetics than to download a game for free and pay $15 for a skin.

[@lazonaasombrosa8688]

That's why i LOVE doom eternal

[@DecoyKamikaze]

Man, completing the fire fight vid master by the skin of our teeth and seeing that final achievement pop up really solidified Halo 3/ODST as my favorite gaming experience ever.

[@rad-toonz6727]

Lol true

[@Sheenulus]

RE4 with the extra costume (2 on later ports), Assignment Ada, The Mercenaries (which is fucking amazing), 4 unlockable bonus weapons (5 on later ports), and Separate Ways were all so goated. The game is maybe 8 hours long on a reasonably fast playthrough collecting most treasures, but the game is so fucking goated with all its bonus content and the fact that you can try what are essentially "builds" with different weapons (due to limited inventory + limited money). I have no doubt that mafia Leon would be DLC in the current state of the gaming industry, as well as Separate Ways as a DLC story (hell, they even sold Mercenaries as a separate game on the 3DS, which, granted, was also fun as shit).

[@RedRiotRoss]

Multiversus do be slapping tho

[@coolbunny]

They're doing it *right.* That's what I like about them.

[@SirKrisX]

1 new character an event, and a new map. It has been 1 week and that's their idea of a v0.1 update. What a ride.

[@shadowlycan3970]

I will say the skins are highway robbery, the Iron Giant Beach skin is around $10 and it's not even that great of a rarity. I've seen other games do MUCH worse but I hope we get rotation sales on the skins.

[@Fourtytwo4242]

@@SirKrisX yeah wtf free shit!!! I SAY WE GO BACK TO GOOD OLD DAYS!!! Like releasing 3 maps and charging 15 dollars for it and locking multiplayer off if those maps come up until you buy it....

[@MetodoCuboAzul]

@@shadowlycan3970 but if the monetization remains on skins, that is fine with me!

[@theonlyzanny]

Halo Infinite moment

[@him8437]

I’m surprised you didn’t say destiny

[@Hippo_Hegemony]

Aren’t you supposed to be playing that DC MMO?

[@chefyboy2748]

What, you're here?! Go Roman kick yourself in the behind! D:

[@aaeve5676]

Hey come one, they've fixed your AI problem I think.

[@_yoshivolts_115]

Halo infinite isn't even the worst of them lol, at least it actually RELEASES it's content, can't wait for forge

[@MrHGravity]

For every 1 success story there are 30, corporate startups and projects that attempted to make the next live service game and wound up being gripped by the teeth and ripped to shreds. And i couldnt be happier about it.

[@randomperson5512]

YES, YESSSS BURN THEM AT THE STAKE

[@jironamos7650]

Only that not enough people chew them off.

[@StarlightSocialist]

The video made me laugh a bit, but it was your comment that got me smiling.

[@jollycooperation7446]

Can I get a well tailored story, satisfying combat, immersive environment, memorable characters, breath taking soundtrack, balanced pvp, filled with love and passion game? *Game Companies:* You had us at predatory microtransactions.

[@luulcas_6267]

Genshin has that but extremely grindy late game and is a gacha

[@Kevin-cf9nl]

It Takes Two?

[@Swagbastian]

@@luulcas_6267 Genshin's story is quite rocky and the world is definitely not immersive lol

[@kojouss8040]

@@Kevin-cf9nl One of the best experiences i've had in my life

[@jonathansands7873]

And that's why I don't play those games. Except monster hunter, but those games are hardly a live service more just a complete game that's updated with free and paid content. Even though vanilla Rise was a bit incomplete the overall game was great and the rest of the story came only two months later

[@mx.e2176]

Rise suffered from the pandemic, but Sunbreak’s definitely looking like it’s gonna pick up the slack

[@rewmangeorge5957]

Keep telling that to yourself. Sqeenix's game that rivals only to Paradox's titles in amount of DLC's. (And many are just re-colours of same items)

[@trustyrat8632]

@@rewmangeorge5957 ?

[@pmdmakesmecri2]

@@rewmangeorge5957 Because Monster Hunter is totally a Square Enix game.

[@chippler5822]

@@rewmangeorge5957 my favorite Square enix owned game is Capcoms monster Hunter yes

[@thomasace2547]

A Live Service Game: 1. Pay for the Game 2. Pay for the Season Pass 3. Pay for the new Released Small Content not in pass 4. Pay for next season pass 5. Pay same price for game to get the new Expansion Repeat till next version of game comes out

[@jhalilxvii]

Destiny 2

[@daredevil2_074]

At least destiny 2 isn't just a cash grab an actually has good replay able content.

[@jhalilxvii]

@@daredevil2_074 Fair point. The raids, dungeons, and the crucible were definitely tons of fun. Strikes and gambit suck while the all of the seasonal events are just an exciting way to sell people more cosmetics.

[@devonwhite9398]

I personally just roll my eyes every time I hear a game is going to be live service nowadays because I know it will be garbage.

[@triple-d2640]

Skate 4 will be live service

[@devonwhite9398]

@@triple-d2640 skate 4 will be garbage

[@zhalosupercell4380]

To be fair while it gets some bad rep destiny 2 is probably the best you'll get out of a live service game

[@mantisshrimp6169]

@@devonwhite9398 no mans sky is live service and good

[@devonwhite9398]

@@mantisshrimp6169 I will agree there can be exceptions but I've been disappointed more than I've been pleasantly surprised.

[@joelockard7174]

Funniest part about the vid is that people feed their money into these games time after time. I stay far away from anything with a roadmap. My pockets stay much happier that way.

[@diamondguycarlosortega4075]

I only do it if it is from ea or any other company that sucks ass

[@KaiHellSky]

Risk o Rain 2 had a roadmap. Solid delivery. Only one I think actually stuck to it lol

[@Flamecreeper677]

Really I rarely put any money into a game after I buy it besides dlc and that’s only if I really enjoy the game or it fixes something with the main game like fallout 3’s broken steel fixing the endgame of the game.

[@SigmaGuardian66]

There are some games that do roadmaps well like Monster Hunter. Really it all boils down to the company and dev teams handling it.

[@bigenemy000]

Well, tbh for honor roadmap is legitimate good

[@can0va]

This video is funny but depressing at the same time, we’re all watching our favorite franchises die by turning into digital shopping malls and the actual games just being empty husks of what they used to be. I really hope something changes in gaming soon.

[@nihilistpenguin7511]

Stop buying anything from these companies. Your criticism of them will do nothing, they don’t care if everyone hates them, they just care about money. Hit them where it hurts, their wallet.

[@Brandor1gVOD]

I want to go back to MONKE, dear god I just want my steam deck this instant to try out the classics (Q4 .-.)

[@can0va]

@@nihilistpenguin7511 I don’t, it’s just that there’s people who will always buy regardless.

[@EngieMak]

Live Service games are strange, they are meant to be play forever, but after 2 weeks i just quit and forget about it, contemplating about my wasted life

[@Yodah97]

It takes the galaxy brain of publishers to launch a live service and then announce a sequel two weeks later. What's the point of a sequel to a forever game? I mean Activision wanted to make 4 Destiny games, it just didn't happen because their Bungee deal fell apart.

[@jarrod752]

That's the effect Skinner boxes have on about 80% of people. It's that 20% that get totally addicted that this game was made for. And people will find a way to pay for their addictions.

[@berserkerpride]

That's because they release short on content. Promising more content in the future to make up for it but never arrives.

[@RikasHusband]

You’re animation is becoming smoother and smoother per video. It’s nice to see your growth. Keep drawing man keep drawing

[@kirilbutsyka8402]

*your

[@TurkeyFaceX]

I like that the first Globo that was shot is also laughing in the last shot. No need for continuity when we're making fun of the video game industry.

[@Sephiroth144]

Yeah, I noticed that too... Only thing missing was a stack of dead goblos to match the stacks of dolla dolla bills.

[@oothatguyoo7643]

These game developers took the Mr Krabs approach to developing video games

[@HailThanagor]

I'm surprised the gobbo didn't have to go thru 28 forms of premium currency exchanges to get that dollar bill lol. It'd be kinda funny if the gobbos were so far removed from actual money they just recognized dollars as yet another premium currency lol.

[@bluephoenix7565]

I like to think that first goblo survived and went on to make a popular indie game that killed the "free to play/pay" live service game.

[@KlausWulfenbach]

"Why, you must be referring specifically to [insert game here]!" - commenters slowly noticing that everyone is talking about different games and growing more and more horrified at the sheer number of games this cartoon applies to. "Just wait until the recession hits and all the servers are shut down at the same time." - me, humbly pointing out that everyone isn't quite horrified enough.

[@jarrod752]

It will be known as _The year there was only Minecraft!_

[@randomperson8375]

@@jarrod752 but even then Minecraft has micro-transactions and chat censoring nowadays, so is that really a good thing?

[@jarrod752]

@@randomperson8375 I was just referring to what everyone would be doing when all the servers went down.

[@elevatorz89]

@@randomperson8375 Only the Bedrock edition of the game (which is arguably worse due to a huge lack of QOL) has microtransactions. Though the pc having chat censoring is stupid.

[@pixelatedink955]

@@elevatorz89 i personally think the bedrock microtransactions are worth your money, if you have spare. Specifically the big ones like the sonic the hedgehog pack, that is (in my opinion) the best transaction in MC. It actually did more for the pack and players than most, and the devs were VERY smart with what they did. Sadly, thats coming from a sonic fan, so im based, but holy moly ive never seen more effort into a brand sponsored pack. (Also what is Qol)

[@Ridlay_]

I like how the dead goblin is still laughing with them despite being, y’know, dead.

[@ScionStorm1]

He's trapped in the Laughterlife.

[@Nightweaver1]

I remember when games came on cartridges and didn't connect to the internet. Those were good times.

[@madladofabrit2439]

Or CDs! 6th and 7th gen consoles (OGXbox and 360 era) were probably the better times with a combo of better tech and great games

[@gabethebabe3337]

I was afraid Halo Infinite would suffer when they announced it was F2P. Then I was bombarded by people who said it was “good for the game because everyone could play it” and they didn’t want to go back to DLC map packs “gatekeeping” the community for $10…That Arby n’ the Chief first episode where they discuss if the Heroic map pack was worth $10 has a definitive answer now. It WAS worth spending just $10.

[@foxtrot9381]

This is one of the few advantages with the live service model though DLC have the bad habit to split the community, whatever the price they're at. Which is okay for solo games, but not for the ones that are exclusively multiplayer The game also becomes (in theory) easier to manage for devs, since they only have one community to handle

[@gabethebabe3337]

@@foxtrot9381 and look where Infinite is now

[@foxtrot9381]

@@gabethebabe3337 Imo, the failure of Halo Infinite (from what i heard at least) stems more from the fact that it was launched with serious optimization issues and very aggressive micro-transactions/grindiness (like wth would you have to pay for an exp booster if you want to advance in the season, that's stupid) The live service model can be something good (after all, some games became successful thanks to that), but way too often, companies are too busy trying to squeeze out money from their customers to make up for their losses and achieve rentability, that they completely forget they are essentially ruining their customer's loyalty and trust in the process, which inevitably lead to the game's downfall since most of them are multiplayer/community based. We'll see what happens with overwatch 2, since they will do the same thing as Halo Infinite but i reckon the same sh*t will happen because greediness and insecurities (also, a guy posted a screenshot of a blizzard's survey showing a question about a mythic skin at 45$, so...)

[@parkour_tnt1331]

The thing that hurts me the most is the Quality of Life features, there are so many simple quick changes that won't cost that much money but they wait months if not years to finally add that one qolf out of the hundreds on the waiting list that are still missing.

[@jarrod752]

_Skinner box._ The word you were looking for in the industry is _Skinner box._ It's effectively creating a piece of media that's more addictive than it is fun.

[@Greetings-r6f]

Remember when game companies actually cared about making good games and not just green paper?

[@TheFinalChapters]

Someone's never heard of shovelware.

[@almightyk11]

Many still do, you just gotta try non major companies

[@jarrod752]

_Remember when game companies actually cared about making good games and not just __-green paper-__ _*_Skinner boxes?_* -FTFY

[@dangitgrandpas390]

Tbh it's mainly AAA Devs like Ubisoft who do this stuff so it's the loud minority

[@Abraksas112]

They had to make good games in order to make money. Now they just need to implement microtransactions to make money. Even those shitty faebook games make lots of money because of that

[@forreview6878]

This made me chuckle! . . . Then I realized how true and horrifying it is for one of my favorite hobbies 0_0

[@GunlessSnake]

Meanwhile, over at Capcom in the Monster Hunter section: MH Devs: Did you hear something? We were too focused on making a fun and complete experience with a roadmap of fun additional post-release content that's backed up by our solid track record.

[@jironamos7650]

Since MH games are mainly Single Player first and Live Service second, theres not an issue, many of this crap games are online only, and when they are gone, well, they are gone.

[@nihilistpenguin7511]

Never listen to companies that don’t deliver on their promises, and stay away from any new game that is a “live service”. Don’t buy the game, don’t spend money in the store, don’t do anything to give them money. If we all stop buying live services, they will disappear.

[@jironamos7650]

The trap of live services is literally that most of them are "Free", people enter them, get psychologically abused into addiction and then just become slaves to the game. If live service games were to be paid games, well, all of them would crash and burn.

[@Swagbastian]

@@jironamos7650 TRUE THO

[@bee-zeesoul1018]

The model of making LSGs is similar to the model Illumination uses to make films. Make as much money by spending as little money as possible.

[@FTChomp9980]

Live Service Games basically means goodbye to your money simulator!

[@zeroundying]

I thought this would make me laugh, but it only reminded me of all the time I've wasted on live service games. I might cry, if I wasn't so numb.

[@SaltLG]

So accurate. That's why I try to avoid all in-store purchases unless they're absolutely needed.

[@S71xx]

Live service means you trade a portion of your life (and a chunk of your money) in return for the chance of some service.

[@TyphinHoofbun]

And you get "serviced" the way a cow gets serviced by a bull.

[@jurassickoonce6951]

Just got my circle toons Anger Management plush in the mail today! Its great! You're great! Keep being you, doing what you do, and loving it while you do it!

[@Murphistic]

I like how the first goblin, who is already shot, is laughing as well. 🤣

[@CinnamonToastKing]

Yup, I hear "live service " and thankfully learn that the game will be a waste of money.

[@Known_as_The_Ghost]

It's lovely how they announce that the game'll be garbage just by using that keyword. :D

[@DrHojo123]

I think live service can be done right if devs didn't focus on just the store Sea of Thives is a good example with each season adding stuff and fixing stuff and only ad a few cosmetics. But a lot of devs go the super greedy route

[@mazzarider6057]

The best kind of comedy is reality. Companies are out to scam us and you have the people who know it’s a scam and those who don’t care.

[@sceek4512]

It's like the US heathcare lol... you pay way to much for the thing, but everytime you actually want to use it, you still have to pay even more

[@Walter_Foreheadson69]

I love how you are the only one who dubbing in this whole channel

[@iToonNetworkOffical]

The voices fit so well

[@emperoregg7693]

This is unfortunately accurate.

[@badwolf1814]

Honestly I'm more disappointed in the players who keep falling for this.

[@phorchybug3286]

Yeah, friggin sheople

[@LutasticLu]

OoH tHat MObiLe StiCKmAn rUnnING gAm looKS cOOL i Wlll spEn 9$ tO GeT No ad AnD All thE hATS

[@ITSYABOYCARR]

So exactly how Skate 4 will turn out 😭

[@nickatnight9671]

I hope not

[@Gregdemtruis]

Hopefully it won't turn out like a free to play game

[@skeven0]

@@nickatnight9671 its EA! so it will not be that guy, but it aint skate 4/sk4te, but its "skate."

[@skeven0]

@@Gregdemtruis its going to f2p

[@timiking5237]

you see the joke at the ending is funny because most game companies don't give two fucks about making a game good , they just care about getting you to pay for stuff as fast as possible, quantity over quality 🤓

[@mrmeme4203]

I hate how people now are accepting and wishing for games like this even though every game with this model has suffered the same issues and only feels completed a year or two later, but because it's free it's good.

[@timiking5237]

@@mrmeme4203 there's nothing people can do but try and enjoy it cuz like tried to explain, as long as the company don't get any revenue from the game , they don't give two fucks

[@CloudWalkBeta]

And theres far too many gamers who lack the self control to stay away from these greedy companies. It’s like some people are determined to find a way to waste their money.

[@gamezcatt3313]

Using subtitles and I just laughed so hard when it said “oh Diablo where’s magoblo” lol

[@IGiveTheBestTakes]

The problem is people complain about it and then still spend there whole hass paycheck on it. Its like simps but for multi billion dollar companies.

[@xempire103]

Thats why I only give money to indi-game devs or mod makers, the money is going to passionate people who care about the game and none is going to executives.

[@Glacier0516]

The fact I can tell this video is a about halo infinite is just a testament on how hard it is for 343 to keep a game alive due to most of their games dying within weeks of their original launches

[@GunlessSnake]

If only there was an example of 343i's success with this kind of model-- OH WAIT! There is. It's called *Halo 5: Guardians* and is basically the 2nd most successful game in the franchise after the juggernaut that was *Halo 3* back in the day.

[@monkeyheist]

I like how the first goblo gets shot in the chest for suggesting a new update, but when the next goblo says the same thing he gives him a dollar.

[@PinkSpaceDinosaur]

My favorite part is when they don’t even follow the roadmap

[@fffan147]

Why I choose to break my chains and refuse to play games built for "service"

[@spocky0]

goblin: toad voice king: chonk voice nice video btw

[@kapoink835]

The stacks of money are really well drawn

[@thej2241]

I will be very happy to see live service games die as a genre when they do.

[@haemahn6072]

Frfr need to go the way of the nft: out the window, down the hill and into oncoming traffic on a busy street

[@Soumein]

They'll probably only die when something better (worse) comes along.

[@Noname-ol8ef]

I hope badly handled live service games die.

[@ApogeeSol]

Poor Goblos, gaining a conscious cost him his life, here's to you buddy.

[@LordMekenshi]

I cant believe Blizzard let you record inside their corporate offices 😲

[@francesco8000]

This video made me think about what Amazon did with their subscription service: in the middle of war, global inflation and a possible recession looming in the future they decided to raise the subscription cost by 30\40%. Just because the people are struggling it doesn't mean amazon can have a quarter with lower growth than usual.

[@fark69]

I'm NOT an Amazon shill by a long shot. I don't buy from them and I don't have Amazon prime, BUT, when huge corporations like Amazon have a down quarter, their stocks fall in value and almost every person in the US and most of the world is affected when that happens. People's retirement accounts, savings, loans, mortgages, etc. are all affected by large corporation stock prices. If the stock goes down and your bank loses money they'll hike up your mortgage, your retirement savings will diminish, everyone you buy stuff from, whose own investments have diminished, will try to raise prices on you to recoup what they lost. As a society we are way too dependent on loans and credit to just expect a huge company like Amazon to just have down quarters all the time...

[@jarrod752]

As much as it's about _not cutting into profits,_ Amazon prime spends a lot of money on gasoline (free shipping), and the cost of that doubled over the last 6 months. You can argue over how much you think they should eat and how much you think they should pass onto the customers, but it's still a significant increase to their cost of doing business.

[@MrRawrCEO]

@@fark69 "People's retirement accounts, savings, loans, mortgages, etc. are all affected by large corporation stock prices." Okay but...isn't that a glaring problem in of itself?

[@emblemblade9245]

Fark Thank god I don’t do stocks

[@cbandit7715]

Amazon unlitmeid on alexa is also terrible. Doesn't Amazon have enough money!

[@grqfes]

love how they dragged him just off screen

[@pencilsandpizza]

They’ve only update the store 78 times in NINE MONTHS, rather be 780

[@MaybyAGhost]

I don't know how they did it but so many publishers have successfully turned the old Barbie Dress-up flash games into their main source of profits by just sticking it into a game and charging for it. And of course completely sidelining any real updates to the 'game' part of the game.

[@jackjackmckean3791]

“There’s uhhhhhh, dates. And a line.” Rockstar announcing new games

[@coolbunny]

You forgot one thing. "What the heck? How come when I release a live game it goes bad, but when that other company does it, it works like a charm? That game isn't even that good." "With all due respect sir, they're handling it way better than we are. Perhaps we should take notes?" "Hmmm. Nah, let's gaslight the public."

[@quisquiliarum7710]

Battlefield 2042 vs Halo Infinite?

[@coolbunny]

@@quisquiliarum7710 That, and a couple of ex-Ubisoft employees that were dissing on Elden Ring

[@SnaksiXD]

I absolutely agree, but when a live service system goes wrong, it goes wrong HARD. WipEout Merge's in-game store is so broken at the moment that you can gain any currency in the game ridiculously quick.

[@tyrillium1744]

How can he do so many voices so well

[@-Godly_Gamez-1]

I know!

[@LASERobot]

Your mom

[@LASERobot]

But in all seriousness he is really good

[@cosmicrobus7679]

@@LASERobot you must be fun at parties

[@hampterbutbeautifulface9447]

Yea but here's the thing Can he beat Goku tho? 🤓

[@imspudus]

These characters are really well designed

[@D1EHARDTOO]

Man! This video works for so many games.. it's sad tbh. Battlefield 2042 is a prime example, they released their battle pass season and have had maybe 1 or 2 patches since, and yet almost weekly add a new bundle of skins to the store, all of which are $12.50 to $17.50 a bundle

[@xbigbooshx4643]

That game is on life support. Even popular Battlefield youtubers are either avoiding it or having their views tank *hard* if they cover it. It is sad to see a franchise like that kill itself, but i refuse to buy and support their newer games until they show genuine improvement.

[@jumpymap8748]

I’d never thought I’d see the day where Halo has a more frustrating live service system than Destiny 2.

[@madladofabrit2439]

The irony.

[@intertwinedfate1429]

I like the part when he threw a dollar, went straight into the shredder and then said no. Humor and sarcasm at it's finest 🤣

[@mr_indie_fan]

This isn't sarcasm this is literally what these triple a corporations are doing and you are to blinded by nostalgia to see it.

[@intertwinedfate1429]

@@mr_indie_fan Oh, you meant to say triple A companies throw money into shredders and then say they refuse to give meaningful updates to their game? Okay machiavellian edge boy. Here, take this cookie and think about your life choices up until this point 🍪

[@RenegadeLK]

Ever since the "What you guys don't have phones" line it was the beginning of the end.

[@xbigbooshx4643]

Darn late April Fools jokes...

[@TyphinHoofbun]

Ever since Candy Crush exploded and showed how profitable predatory microtransactions could be, it was the beginning of the end.

[@BRNG2042]

This is completely fictional. 1 quality of life update is 200,000,000% more than what would actually happen.

[@tarille1043]

Also, spending a whole dollar on updating the game? That's more than the entire development team gets paid to make the game in the first place!

[@alcottic]

Out of all the live service games, I’m surprised some people still play avengers. They put more work on making costumes more than making maps or new missions

[@civilprotection3114]

So basically this happened 3 times at EA.

[@KlausWulfenbach]

Only three!?!?! 😆😂🤣😭 Maybe just three times in the last three months? That must be what you meant. I don't really pay attention to newer EA games.

[@Lordoftheramble]

The video is the best Halo Infinite content I have seen in almost a year.

[@Tabsau]

Me trying to go back to 360: why isn't it possible? Game companies: it's just not- Me: *why not?*

[@jacksim5759]

i love the wholly new voice you made for Goblo #2

[@chriscox2045]

And when they finally do update the game it alienates veteran players and intimidates new players.

[@voidofbeing1297]

At least in Sea Of Thieves all the purchasable stuff is cosmetic, and the devs are still updating it

[@blake2521]

When I heard gta 6 is going to be live service. I cried

[@jking4854]

That's a nice Argument Senator, why don't you back it up with a source?

[@blake2521]

@@jking4854 I’m not fucking kidding they plan to have gta 6 incomplete on release with a ever-evolving map. All I’m saying is It is not going to be as developed and have as rich of a world as rdr2

[@skeven0]

Hhmm ist GTA Online like this, and has massive amount of content?

[@Cailan_Mors]

@@blake2521 Not saying you're lying, but they asked for a source.

[@fatusopp4739]

@@jking4854 my source is that i made it the fuck up

[@WingXCustom]

Modern video games once executive suits got a hold of them after realizing they were an even more lucrative market than Cinema.

[@xbigbooshx4643]

Yep, GTA 5 is still more lucrative than the Star Wars films. AAA greed at its most vicious.

[@jmallard_gaming4523]

Thank you CircleToons for bringing much needed clarity into the abuse and exploitation of Goblos by AAA gaming companies. Not all heroes wear capes.

[@mauroperugini1050]

as a plants vs zombies fan, i can say this is literally pvz2. All the updates in the last years are just new plants that are fucking overpowered that you can only get by playing the pvp mode for a LONG time (consider that you need 300 crowns to guarantee getting the plant, and you only get 5 crowns per game you win) OR by buying them of course

[@Ethonra]

The endings shot was great...no pun intended.

[@CaffeineFellow]

my guy described halo infinite’s live service in one and a half minutes

[@zeroimagination6191]

That gobler was a hero

[@AesirSW]

You know it's fine that Halo Infinite has less modes, no forge at launch and no campaign co-op, at least the BATTLE PASS and cosmetics shop is always kept up to date! We can always count on 343 to make sure we don't miss out on new items for the battle pass and the shop, who cares if we have to wait most of the year for Forge and they can just say co-op will take a bit more time and delay the august "beta" as long as we have the battle pass and new cosmetics