Abortion Is NEVER Medically Necessary | Exclusive Interview with Dr. Monique Ruberu

[@DefendersOfWomen]

Thousands of Dr.s agree that abortion is never necessary. Most won't speak publicly about it. Then u have abortionists who think a bad hair day is a medically necessary reason.

[@wildcatblue1109]

I saw someone comment she didn’t want to give up sushi , like girl what .. you can eat sushi .. relax don’t murder your child

[@lizzieurb]

This woman is outstanding. What an intelligent, balanced doctor, and what an incredible gift to have her speaking for the pro-life movement. Abortion is never necessary, and every human being has a right to life. It’s our job to defend and uphold that reality.

[@Jennifer-gr7hn]

and every woman/man/patient/person deserves and has the right to good, ethical, caring CARE! Who kit and caboodle. She's awesome. She is my gyn, and as a nurse, I'm hard on doctors ;) I approve of her ;)

[@jordanmattievisuals]

Imagine if all medical professionals practiced with this much kindness, consistency, and compassion. Our world would be a much more wonderful place.

[@Machoman50ta]

Not only medical professionals but ALL of us should be asking ourselves how did we get to a society where the QUESTION if killing a baby was even AN OPTION !?!?! That’s not even a question us humans have the right to deny. even in the worst situation that the left always uses “ra**” and in that situation I say the baby doesn’t need to be raised by the victim but not KILL IT !?!?! I told my ex when she started to try dispute this with me it’s the way the question it self is said up that disgust ME ! Why are kids having unprotected eggs without parents being held responsible???? Especially men as a man I say any man that abandons child they will be jailed same with woman but they get fined so many solutions I just gave that can end this once for all but no one listens. Sorry for yapping I can’t stand to think about lifeless babies

[@BlahblahBlop]

A person coming to her with a life threatening pregnancy or an unwanted pregnancy and being told by her to remain pregnant because she won’t help them, will not call this doctor kind, consistent or compassionate. Listen to the suffering and trauma that pregnant people have experienced instead of leaning on your religious ideology, and you would know.

[@jakey3887]

@@BlahblahBlop Abortion is NEVER medically necessary as “treatment”. You cannot love your neighbor while supporting or accepting systems that crush, exploit, and dehumanize them. So in order for someone to prove me wrong when I say abortion is never medically necessary as treatment (using the CDC definition of abortion), they’d have to show me a situation where we have a living child inside of the woman’s uterus, where it is NECESSARY to INTENTIONALLY kill that child in the uterus, and then deliver the child dead…rather than ultimately allowing that child to have a live birth. So keep in mind, if you have to induce pre-term delivery or induce labor early to save the life of the mother and that child comes out alive, and you’re NOT intentionally killing the child in the womb prior to the birth, then that is NOT considered an abortion. You would have to show me an instance where it’s necessary to INTENTIONALLY kill the child in the uterus and then deliver the child in order to prove me wrong. So I will stress it again…It has to be MEDICALLY NECESSARY, as in there is no other way. So if you could deliver the child prematurely and it’s just an unfortunate consequence that after that child is delivered alive that because it was a premature delivery the child can’t survive on its own outside the womb and it dies outside the womb after a live birth, that’s NOT considered an abortion. You’d have to show me an example where you have to intentionally kill the child in the uterus FIRST, and THEN deliver the child dead. Rather than just delivering that child alive. I have NOT SEEN any evidence that it is ever NECESSARY to intentionally kill a child in the uterus and then deliver them dead, rather than just deliver that child alive. CDC definition of abortion: For the purpose of surveillance, a legal induced abortion is defined as an intervention performed by a license clinician (e.g. a physician, nurse-midwife, nurse practitioner, physician assistant) within the limits of state regulations, that is intended to terminate a suspected or known ongoing intrauterine pregnancy and that does not result in a live birth. This definition excludes management of intrauterine fetal death, early pregnancy failure/loss, ectopic pregnancy, or retained products of conception. Most states and jurisdictions that collect abortion data report whether an abortion was performed by medication or surgery.

[@freedomwriter1995]

​@@jakey3887 I have researched and found stories where women who were told that their baby would not live because of an irreversible defect. They wanted to end the pregnancy to prevent the strain on their bodies that this unviable pregnancy would put on it, like rendering them sterile, but their states new laws forbid it so they were forced to give birth and risk developing sterility and sepsis just to have a baby who won't live. How is that any better than termination of a pregnancy.

[@freedomwriter1995]

​@@jakey3887 One woman, after roe was overturned, found out that her baby never developed lungs and her state's laws would have made her give birth anyway. She had to go to new york and when she got there she learned her baby died in utero and if she didn't have the body removed soon she would be at risk of sepsis.

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

Keep saving babies and mothers!

[@Jennifer-gr7hn]

and fathers and the family and humanity!

[@freedomwriter1995]

What about those women whose pregnancy complications will cause her to become sterile and the baby will not live more than a few minutes once born due to never developing lungs.

[@lindawing2987]

I am just so tired of people claiming that limiting abortion is limiting womens health care.

[@carriebradon2807]

I’m so so tired of the argument that it’s sometimes medically necessary to abort a baby. NO! Killing the baby directly is never going to save or cure the mom. Yes, some conditions may require a delivery prior to the baby’s viability which is so heartbreaking to think about but the intention is completely different and does not involve pulling the baby apart or poisoning it.

[@freedomwriter1995]

There are also those situations where the baby never developed primary organs like their kidneys or their lungs or have a heart defect that won't allow them to even live more than a few minutes outside the womb.

[@freedomwriter1995]

There was a woman who found out that her baby never developed lungs. She would not reach viability or, if she somehow made it to delivery, wouldn't survive because she would sufficate in minutes. She met all her state requirements for an emergency termination but the state still ruled against her. She had to fly to New York to get the pregnancy terminated. Once she got to New York, the doctors said that her baby had died and that she needed to have it removed to avoid going septic.

[@TN-bi9qf]

Beautiful! I gave birth to a 21 week 5 day infant in 2022. She breathed on her own for 7 hours and I held her as long as I could. I know she’s in heaven. I gave her all the life I could. She was baptized as well;)

[@robmc120]

i pray more actual doctors come forward to defend this logically obvious position. May the triune God bless you Monique!

[@Jennifer-gr7hn]

the lack of courage with our healthcare system is one thing..the lack of care to think about things to have the courage, even more rare. The same ones who don't want think about abortion are the same ones continuing to give covaids shots

[@melissaeverett1591]

I’ve worked in high risk ob for going on 20 years and she is totally correct. I’ve been wanting to scream this for years. We have never had a situation, even at a trauma hospital, where an abortion was medically necessary. We would deliver the baby alive and do everything we could to save both the mother and the baby.

[@kristinezerebkina9383]

❤Thank You

[@amyhood6562]

I worked as an ICU nurse and we did several emergency C-sections to save both mom and baby. The NICU team would be right there to work on the baby while we took care of the mother.

[@tina-mariecrocker5687]

Remember those days?

[@justylex]

What about an ectopic pregnancy? This is not a sustainable pregnancy and is life threatening for the mom. I developed pre-eclampsia and HELLPS with my second and she was born premature (a healthy 19 yr old now), so yes, I absolutely agree that there is zero medical reason to abort after the first trimester. But in first trimester, with ectopic pregnancy, there is no other option and time is not on your side.

[@mrsmacdee1113]

@justylex 31:08

[@ninefourninethree]

Please do the educational session! This is a wonderful conversation that has blessed me immensely! Thank you both for your work 💕 You’re saving and changing lives!

[@catherine1886]

I met Dr and her husband at catholic family camp. She held my baby Danny and I asked her to feel his skull for me as a “second opinion”. Didn’t know she was a pro-life speaker. I was a complete stranger and she and her husband were so nice to me.

[@cinnamonbona]

Oh my goodness so excited about this conversation

[@samanthamcgraw2675]

I'm so glad to hear this spoken of - I've never been able to back up my claim that "life of the mother" is a bogus excuse, other than knowing that our bodies were created to carry and give birth to babies, and just my God-given conviction that we can't be doing this, it's so backwards. And to some people, those aren't enough apparently.

[@sssssnake222]

Selling baby poison should be illegal. Anybody could get it, and use it for absolutely nefarious and dastardly deeds.

[@jeremiahcoles2378]

How can people hear these kind of stories and not believe that God is real and He is alive.

[@netizensarrest4241]

Please have Dr. Ruberu back! I’d love a whole discussion dedicated to menstruation and hormonal health, especially as it relates to fertility. This is not talked about enough!

[@poliincredible770]

Praise God for life!!!

[@lightoffaithchristian4382]

❤❤❤❤❤ . Pleasure and convenience is not more important than a child’s life

[@Jennifer-gr7hn]

and it does backfire because the survivors (mom and dad) have a lot of understandable emotional and physical issues after this choice :(

[@Jennifer-gr7hn]

another population as "pro lifers" we need to pray for, fast over and remember/consider.

[@AtsircEcarg]

I wish med students were given training from someone like her!

[@JustWatchMeDoThis]

It just hit me. We need a lot of practical mental health care available and for free for these women. We need it available at the very moment they come for any kind of help and something they need to make an appointment for. Of course they need that follow up counseling too. But when a woman or girl shows up scared and many times in shock, we need someone that can really help draw out their fears and their desires and work with them to help the mother understand how either decision will change her. Both decisions DO change a girl/woman no matter her choice. I myself made a terrible decision when I was 24. It was both out of fear and I was ain shock over it. That tragic decision changed me!

[@shannonmaria22]

Excellent interview! Please have Dr. Ruberu come back for more! ❤

[@jessejames88]

Amen!

[@DefendersOfWomen]

Amazing testimony! Thanks Lila for ALL your awesome videos!

[@SK-eg1gh]

I'm only 20min in, but this is pure gold. I love this Dr ! Thank you!

[@jessejames88]

Beautiful. As a man, I must say that these two women give me hope for our world today and in the future. Thank you, God bless.

[@denisephillips9269]

Where is the hope that men who impregnate women are made responsible for those offspring? Men walk away scottfree. What do you care?? You don't have to do crap the rest of your life. When men are made responsible for their part in ejaculating sperm into a woman then come talk to women. Get off your pompous ass and protest men walking away.

[@tina-mariecrocker5687]

What an honorable woman❤

[@ManateeTail123]

I thought I knew nearly everything there is to know about my body, but lo and behold you tell me more! I feel so educated. This is invaluable information!

[@crushlogic]

Love these two ladies!!

[@Utoobeh4tesfreespeech]

When I was 5 (1980) a couple who were family friends parents were pregnant with her third. They were Catholic. The doctors warned them if she went ahead with it she was more than likely to have a stroke from blotclotts and be incapacitated. They were very devout and trusted G-d with it and had the baby. Everthing the doctors warned happened. She was severly mentally and physically damaged, never knew her baby, and left 3 under 3 without a mom. She had palliative care for 15 yrs and died. So saying it doesnt happen is just not true. It was medically necessary for her but she chose the baby. And that was her choice. I resisted G-d til I was 22 bc all I remembered was He "didn't come through" for that faithful couple. I never had my own children either bc I subconciously never forgot. I am pro life but to me I've kept it at theoretical. I let others "fight" this issue.

[@debblouin]

I am thinking you meant 15 days rather than 15 years. I am curious about the type of care she received. I wonder if her doctors worked with her to keep her healthy and increase her odds or if they wrote her off because she rejected abortion.

[@Utoobeh4tesfreespeech]

​​@@debblouinWhy would you assume I didnt know what I meant? I wrote it. 15 YEARS A "VEGETABLE"

[@Utoobeh4tesfreespeech]

​​@@debblouinit was in Canada. It wasn-t like "your" "psycho system" or ideologies. This doctor is a kook. I-m just seeing more now lol. No PMS and pain? No wonder people think we're nuts Just Wow.

[@jessicariekkola3842]

I had to make a similar decision and I chose to save my life and be there for my son to watch him grow up. I appreciate your comment, I am pro life as well but I unfortunately was put into a position no one wants to make that kind of awful decision.

[@deirdremorris9234]

​@@debblouin What does that matter. They are not giving good care to pregnant women now!😢

[@ManateeTail123]

God bless this dear woman! The spiritual warfare is real. Thank you for practicing your faith with your medicine!

[@FOURTOONESIBLINGS]

My story and Dr Ruberu is so similar !!! Iwould love to connect with her

[@davyrantucci]

Hope many people watch this ❤❤

[@julieann1324]

I ❤️ this Doctor 👩‍⚕️!!!

[@mark-be9mq]

Thank you Dr. Ruberu and Lila.

[@elektra3222]

Our politicians need to be educated about this.

[@jessejames88]

Is Dr. Ruberu wearing a Miraculous Medal?

[@masteryourpiece]

Amazing ❤ and thank you Lila

[@lightoffaithchristian4382]

Thank you Lila for these amazing talks 💖💖❤️‍🔥

[@tina-mariecrocker5687]

Dr. Is such a beautiful woman. She glows

[@iyaayas]

34:28 - I like these terms. I had a miscarriage but my paperwork said "Abortion". I H-Worded (meaning very dislike but YT deletes comments using that word) that they used that word.

[@debblouin]

I suspect the paperwork said spontaneous abortion.

[@beckylaing5252]

What about an ectopic pregnancy? I am pro-life, but had an ectopic pregnancy lost my baby and the tube through no fault of my own. I ended up losing 5 babies throughout the years. It breaks my heart that my medical record says 1 abortion. Although that’s was nothing I had chosen. But it was medically necessary!!! JS

[@kathleencove]

You are correct, unfortunately ectopic pregnancies can be fatal for the mother if not immediately taken care of. I’m sorry for what you’ve gone through, that’s not easy.

[@googiesable]

An ectopic pregnancy is not a viable pregnancy from conception. So, I wouldn't even count that as an abortion. An abortion is purposefully ending a perfectly viable pregnancy, which an ectopic pregnancy is not.

[@googiesable]

An ectopic pregnancy isn't a viable pregnancy from conception. That isn't an abortion, which is the termination of a viable pregnancy.

[@kathleencove]

@@googiesable You’re creating definitions for things that doctors don’t use. An abortion in medical terminology is any termination of a pregnancy. A “miscarriage” is called a spontaneous abortion. An unintended medically necessary abortion like for an ectopic pregnancy where the mother wished she could keep the child, is still called an abortion. This matters because there are some politicians who want to retroactively criminalize all abortions. Which means if you have a notation of abortion in your medical record you and / or your doctor could be harassed in court for further details. Women who have had ectopic pregnancies all have “abortion” in their medical record. You wanting to use political rhetoric to say your definition of abortion is only voluntary unnecessary procedures, doesn’t change how the word is used by doctors.

[@kathleencove]

@@googiesable For the record, I’m in favor of restrictions on unnecessary voluntary abortions, for the sake of preserving innocent life. What I’m not in favor of, is lying and endangering women to push a certain rhetorical narrative that isn’t true.

[@sallysue8176]

Lila you work so hard!! I can’t keep up with all your videos!!!

[@Jennifer-gr7hn]

Absolutely...the grace is incredible. God supplies the ammo needed to do His work

[@freedomwriter1995]

Tell that to the woman whose baby died in the womb and caused her mother to develop sepsis as a result because the doctors refused to remove an ALREADY DEAD baby.

[@elektra3222]

Thank you, Live Action, for also posting videos on R.

[@K-wx6ki]

Are you sure about that? What about preterm premature rupture of membranes. This can literally lead to a fatal sepsis infection or dangerous hemorrhaging for the mother

[@RoseNZieg]

trying to save both lives is great but how does that account for the kids who grew up without a mother?

[@lrbolotin1227]

How would abortion solve that? Most pregnancy complications happen after 20 weeks, which is basically the time of possible viability out of the uterus; the logical and safest solution would be delivery, not abortion.

[@catherine1886]

I don’t think this commenter actually watched the interview…

[@user-ks3qr5fk6m]

God bless you Dr. Ruberu!

[@LaurenSheehan]

Please do another session on womens fertility!!!!!

[@olumbafamilyfaith9396]

love this!!!! especially when she says it’s a spiritual battle at the clinics.

[@elektra3222]

Thank you, Doctor. A TRUE Doctor.

[@berachtdorian6191]

It seems to me that she is describing the termination of an ectopic pregnancy as a medically necessary abortion.

[@kylezack5973]

Abortion is almost never the option.

[@Jennifer-gr7hn]

Estrogen dominance is also very common in patients with MTHFR double copy, as it's hard to detox that. Also mold toxicity, candida, fungal, B12 deficiencies (which are not accurate on blood work since things like SIBO (small intestinal bacterial overgrowth which has many causes) which can look sufficient on Labcorp labs, but that's in the blood and being redistributed vs absorbed. Soooooo many things to look at to help a patient and functional medicine is the way. It's expensive but worth it. When we look at the crap we buy, 'smart' tech, eating out, travel, etc.....most of us can afford this. Priorities

[@jessejames88]

Don't forget heavy metal toxicity -- this may be a big one esp. with all the nnEMF we are now exposed to.

[@mistyblackfoot3848]

What about an ectopic pregnancy where the baby implants wrong? I'm extremely pro life, but it does seem medically necessary then. It would 100% kill the mother wouldn't it? There are probably other conditions. I'm all for surgeries that could correct this instead of ending the pregnancy, but is that even possible? I do 100% agree that, if it's possible at all to save both, do so. Abortion isn't necessary after the baby is is enough to stand even a small chance outside of the womb. But what about before then?

[@googiesable]

An ectopic pregnancy isn't a viable pregnancy from conception. That isn't an abortion, which is the termination of a viable pregnancy.

[@Northern-ru]

Well.... I'm prolife but... I had an aquantance who had told me she became pregnant while using an IUD. After scans and tests they told her the child would be very likley deformed or very disfigured physically and mentally.... so she chose an abortion at 7 weeks. So what would you do ? I'm not saying this women was right or wrong but there's hard choices in life. The statement " abortion is never necessary " is perhaps one sided.

[@FindTheTRUTH337]

There have been countless mothers who loved her unborn child and had faith that GOD would take care of her and her gift from HIM.

[@lrbolotin1227]

So many moms have been told this and babies turn out perfectly fine. Many women get pregnant with IUDs and it all develops normally. There are adults that are “deformed” or “very disfigured,” even from a fire accident; does that make their lives not worth living?

[@LexiGolenya]

first of all there is absolutely no way they knew all of that at just 6 or 7 weeks for her to make a decision. those tests and scans don’t even happen until week 9 or 10. i’m sorry but this is just a lie.

[@debblouin]

What iffing this allows for all sorts of horrible justifications for terrible decisions.

[@Northern-ru]

@lrbolotin1227 yes see this is what interests me. Seems to be alot of fear mongering happening on behalf of the medical associations.

[@johnpatmos1722]

I wish Rose would follow her guest's queue in calling it an abortion center.

[@seekingtruthandcompassion1707]

I was just about to ask for you to have her on !

[@Jennifer-gr7hn]

My gyn, and partner in both my medical are, AND our patients' care as a functional nurse practitioner and Creighton model fertilitycare practitioner

[@SomeofThisSomeofThat]

Not a fan of dishonesty. People are saying “nobody is talking about ectopic pregnancy. Thats different.” The lady made the statement “an abortion is never medically necessary” and she gave no stipulations or caveats for ectopic pregnancies. She’s a trained ob…I doubt that mentioning ectopic pregnancies was unintentional.

[@googiesable]

An ectopic pregnancy isn't a viable pregnancy from conception. That isn't an abortion, which is the termination of a viable pregnancy.

[@tinyt79]

How would you treat a woman with ovarian failure without med? Is there a difference between contraceptive/ the pill or hormone therapy ?

[@stephanie_smith]

Of course there is a diff.

[@porkchoppeaches]

What if the baby has died and or had severe mutations? Wouldn’t an abortion be medically necessary?

[@dianaaugustine5438]

If the baby has died, that is considered a missed miscarriage or a stillbirth, not an elective abortion. In this situation the baby often passes naturally, but if not, a d and c procedure or induction of labor will be necessary to remove the deceased child’s body. If the baby has some kind of mutation and they are living, it is not necessary to kill them. They may pass away naturally before, during, or shortly after birth, or they may survive and later die a natural death. Either way, it is not medically necessary or morally acceptable to perform an elective abortion.

[@porkchoppeaches]

@@dianaaugustine5438 I ask because I know of a case where the baby had two heads. So with that severe of a mutation , terminating the pregnancy would be the most humane thing to do. Also , abortion would be preemptive care to a dangerous situation for the mom and baby, right ? It also seems unnecessary to make that woman carry a mutated baby to term just to have them die but also go through the grief of having them in your body for longer just to have them likely die . Seems excessive .

[@TEHANU5389]

What about Atopic Pregnancies? You know, when baby starts growing inside the Fallopian Tube or simply somewhere it ain't suppose to. "Abortion" ain't needed to save the Mothers life?

[@justylex]

Ectopic. And yes, I agree 100%. An ectopic pregnancy is a life threatening situation for mom and the baby has zero chance of surviving anyhow.

[@davyrantucci]

It’s not considered abortion because you technically remove the tube and not just the baby, and the intent is different. It’s never going to be able to progress to a full term baby sadly. They are trying to find a way to relocate the embryo during these procedures so eventually I think we will be able to save the babies. We just aren’t there yet.

[@robmc120]

@@davyrantucci thank you, ignorance is no excuse, i pray they learn the diff

[@lightoffaithchristian4382]

Be careful with birth control pills, it can be the cause either direct or indirect

[@TEHANU5389]

@davyrantucci ​Unfortunately most people still considered it an Abortion. They don't differentiate. It's why the abortion bans are so screwed up .​

[@jessicariekkola3842]

What about twin molar pregnacy wirh a viable fetus. I had molar tissue spread to my lungs and liver and had blood clots the size of grapefruits, hcg levels over 600,000. I had a molar which wasnt viable alongside a healthy baby boy. I had a gut renching termination at 20 weeks, i was told i would likely die wirh my child and he would never make it to term. I had an 18 month old son and had to make an awful decision and choose between being there for my son or continuing a very dangerouse pregnancy. Afterwards i had 5 rounds of chemo. Though my situation is rare i wouldnt ever say theres no reason ever for a medical abortion.

[@deirdremorris9234]

Thank you for sharing. Its quite a conundrum. Very sad, yet reasonable for your life to be preserved. ❤

[@sssssnake222]

What are the odds of someone putting the pill in people's food?

[@catherine1886]

Seriously!

[@Alessandra-ec2hr]

Medicine is a ministry!

[@AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables]

❤❤❤

[@kzfingerprint]

I wish she mentioned the name of the book that was dropped off for her!

[@micaiah0109]

❤️🙏🙌🏾👍🏾

[@elbeepeee]

Did anyone catch the name of the book that was dropped off to her?

[@reagansteele3077]

I will drink more water. Can't give up the cup.

[@gabriellahsdancingheart8808]

What is the name of the book she was given?

[@CherylHaurik]

Thank you for your videos. We can't find hope and peace in this world but there is Someone that can give us true hope and peace. Because he Loved us: John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Because of his Grace: Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Because of Hope: Romans 15:13 Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

[@Joy-kl6fz]

What text book did she mention

[@cinnamonbona]

Is the baby definitely deceased once it is expelled after the abortion pill or is it possible it is still alive ?

[@_shaylamarr]

They are deceased. They were cut off from their oxygen supply.

[@LexiGolenya]

that’s a good question, I was wondering the same

[@catherine1886]

No I’ve read and watched other doctors explain or nurses that the baby doesn’t always die. When the baby is born alive, if too young to breathe on own, dies suffocating outside of the womb. The pill is a multi -phase where early labor is induced at home.

[@johnnybravo5964]

The demon YT posting it’s propaganda tag in this video as usual

[@lisabenam960]

The fuck! Yes it can! If it puts the mothers life in danger such as cardiomyopathy or pre eclampsia that becomes uncontrolled. The mother should be given choices. It is her decision to move forward with the pregnancy or not. But it should be discussed with her thoroughly without bias! Without this pro abortion no abortion bullshit. Let that woman decide.

[@googiesable]

In both of those examples, a cesarean section would be performed, and both the baby and mother would be given the medical attention they both need.

[@BlahblahBlop]

First sentence in this video debunked: ectopic pregnancy. The person interviewing her even made the example of ectopic pregnancy as an exception. She then continued to say the words: “There is no such thing as a medically necessary abortion, ever”. I am sorry that this Doctor does not seem to understand that there may be several reasons why the fields she mentioned can’t help the health of pregnant people and save their lives or reproductive health, making abortion necessary. What a quack for suggesting that these specialist can solve all issues, when the specialists would tell you otherwise.

[@petalblossom96]

You're incorrect. Ectopic pregnancies are not viable. The death of that fetus is inevitable. A termination in that case is merely hastening a process that would happen anyway. It's not a moral issue in that instance.

[@KirisutonoNeko]

It’s about definitions. She doesn’t hold the surgical removal of an ectopic baby to be an @bortion (probably because the baby can still live for a short while outside)-similar to how the surgical removal of a baby via cesarean also is not an @bortion, even though both end a pregnancy. She is saying that it is never medically necessary to unalive the baby directly and intentionally, as elective @bortions do. I’m not saying whose terminology is correct here; I’m just translating.

[@McCJA8]

Imagine having aa ectopic pregnancy and this being your doctor.

[@googiesable]

Imagine being so ignorant that you don't know what an ectopic pregnancy even is, yet use it as a gotcha talking point.

[@riffeteddybear7573]

algorithm

[@rebachick94]

Yes, it is…

[@daofthrevo]

No it’s not. You probably didn’t even watch the video after commenting that.

[@rebachick94]

@@daofthrevo an abortion is the end of a pregnancy for any reason. Taking a medical term and trying to change the definition doesn’t change the fact that it has a clear definition. Meaning that ectopic pregnancies, fetal anomalies and miscarriages are considered abortion and these are medically necessary because none of these situations are going to result in a healthy baby.

[@lauracollins3451]

Of course not when it's how you make your money. Every baby born for her is $$,$$$.

[@robmc120]

every baby murdered (NOT born) from PP/otherwise is $$ for murderers, your comment is irrelevant.....

[@Rosa01010101]

How do you think pp earns their $$ lmao

[@debblouin]

There is forgiveness for you, Laura.

[@lauracollins3451]

@@debblouin I don't need forgiveness, I have three kids. I've never had a abortion instead after baby #3 demanded tubal ligation so I didn't need to worry about anymore pregnancy. However an abortion is no one's choice but the mother.

[@batman5224]

It does seem to me that the only situation where an abortion is medically necessary is when a woman’s water breaks too early. Quite often, the pregnancy has to end in order to prevent sepsis from setting in. As a result, labor is often induced. Now, many people would not consider that an abortion, but medically, it is often classified as one. The problem is state laws are often vague, which makes doctors hesitant to intervene. This places the lives of women in danger. Now, that obviously doesn’t mean elective abortion should be legal, but these laws need to be written more cogently.

[@Nahnah111]

Most states with life saving laws define abortion within the bill Georgia, just as an example, defines abortion as intentionally prescribing or performing a procedure in which the unborn baby is killed. I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of it. Ectopic pregnancy, miscarriage, and life saving medical care for the mother is protected and early induction of labor isn't an abortion within the law.

[@batman5224]

@@Nahnah111Medically, induced labor is often classified as an abortion because it aborts a pregnancy. The reasoning is often not taken into account. The problem is many state laws are vague about what specific circumstances qualify for medical intervention. For example, how ill does a woman have to be before medical intervention is necessary? There is obviously some subjectivity there. This is a problem that the pro-life movement has to deal with, and I say this as someone who is ardently pro-life.

[@DefendersOfWomen]

​@@batman5224Um, according to your past comments, u r NOT ardently pro-life!

[@batman5224]

@@DefendersOfWomen As someone who almost got punched recently for defending the pro-life position, I beg to differ.

[@debblouin]

That is not abortion. Doctors do not go in a cut up a baby or inject digoxin in that event. The baby might have to be delivered and will ultimately not survive, but it is not the same, even if labor was induced. The baby was not dismembered or poisoned. I had Pitocin during my first delivery. Believe me that wasn’t the facilitation of an abortion. And it would not have been classed as such had my daughter died during birth.

[@Plan_B13]

Any abortion for any reason is necessary. If a woman is pregnant and she doesn’t want to be pregnant, an abortion is necessary. The reasons for abortion are not decided by people on the internet , only by the woman seeking an abortion. No woman needs any other reason to get an abortion other than she wants/ needs one. That’s your reality check.

[@_shaylamarr]

Abortion is not necessary, ever. If she doesn’t want a baby, don’t have heterosexual sex. And don’t come at me with the

[@tina-mariecrocker5687]

So you think murder is ok? I truly hope Abba Father cleanses your heart and blesses you with discernment. It sounds like you've been given over to a reprobate mind.

[@barbaralewis6766]

Abortion makes her the mother of a dead baby.

[@Plan_B13]

@@tina-mariecrocker5687 murder? No, murder is not okay. I was talking about abortion. Abortion is perfectly okay. Who tf is Abba Father? You don’t seem to have a mind at all.

[@TheMDelima]

Abortion is the murder of babies. If your mother had an abortion when she was pregnant with you, you would have been a murder victim. How's that for a reality check and brain check?

[@mommadeb49]

What is the name of the book you were given? It is not clear in the audio.

[@humanbng1]

It was a book about NAPRO technology.