LIVING OFF GRID is saving us THOUSANDS: Here's How

Living off grid has always seemed a bit daunting to us - that is, until now! We’ve spent the past four months learning how to live and work completely off grid, and we think we have mastered the set up needed to make our off grid living comfortable and stress free. This set up works EVERYWHERE and has totally saved us on multiple occasions. We’ve used it to stay connected while posting up on BLM land, camping at dispersed campsites, and it’s even saved us a few times while staying in actual rentals in the middle of nowhere with terrible WiFi. Not to mention, this off grid life is saving us thousands of dollars a month. And you know where that is going - straight into our investments so we can continue to work towards financial independence and early retirement.
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[@nonamem5213]

Congrats! I'm off the grid too, approaching 2 years- travelled the world, done lots of adventures, but I will say there's definitely things I miss about having my own home base. You can only live in a car and motels so long. Glad you're having fun.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Wow 2 years -- congrats to you too! One thing we're going to try to do to minimize getting tired of travel is to occasionally rent an airbnb in a cool place for a full month, to give us a little sense of a home base without actually having to commit to a year long lease and buy furniture, etc. Not sure yet how well that will work, but we will let you know! ❤️

[@brucetecklenburg8349]

Thanks for the shout out! That was awesome and totally unexpected. For that, if you head Florida way, we have comfy place you can sleep. And yes we survived Milton, but we have some repairs to do. You are awesome, thanks for sharing and we've become bigger fans of Starlink, especially after our trip to Redoubt Mountain Lodge in Lake Clark this summer...it was amazing. Stay safe, can't wait for the next adventure.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Bruce so glad you received the shout out -- and even more glad you survived the hurricane ok! Wow the weather had gotten crazy lately. Hope the repairs won't be too expensive. And thank you, we would love to stay with you guys whenever we do our cross-country trip -- maybe next fall! ❤️

[@mechcntr7185]

I love these videos! You have both been such an inspiration to me in my health kick. Keep up the good work and thank you.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That is so great for us to hear -- thank you! It really energizes us to know that we're inspiring you to get more and more healthy, and please let us know how it's going as you progress because it will make us super psyched!! ❤️

[@prowrestlingisart6742]

This was a really fun and interesting behind the scenes video. I'd be interested in seeing more of these types of videos sprinkled in from to time!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That is great to hear, and we will definitely do it! We love sharing the different aspects of this new life with you guys! ❤️

[@prowrestlingisart6742]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard I know nothing about off the grid living so this is all fascinating info for me :)

[@TroyBowser-dk3dp]

Great video pa

[@ratdog213]

Great video! Going to buy that Jackery

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes! We are very happy to hear that, and pretty sure you'll be delighted with it -- it is without doubt the best piece of gear we have ever owned, and gets a 10 out of 10 recommend from us on everything from reliability to ease of use. ❤️

[@thaddeevaldelievre895]

Happy to hear it's going well! So much money saved, nice!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks Thaddee! Ya so far it's going even better than we'd hoped, and we're feeling really, really grateful! ❤️

[@dansouth2088]

This is great stuff!! So many people would not want to do all the planning and logistics to do what you've done, so bravo for that! And what a great use of technology with the jackery and starlink! CO is definitely out of control with hotel/airbnb prices so anything you can do to make things reasonable is awesome! There are so many ways to live differently which gives you freedom and it's great that you are showing this to all your subs! Keep up the great adventure!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks Dan! Yes it really is amazing how easy it is now to be nomadic with the Jackery-Starlink combo. I have literally had a client call me for an emergency session while we were driving in the middle of nowhere, pulled over and had a Skype session going with them in less than 5 minutes. CA and CO have both gotten really pricey for accommodations, but they're our two favorite places to adventure so we had no choice but to get creative, and that's honestly made it even more fun! --A

[@paisano777]

Fantastic video!!! That pre-nomad rent was wild!!!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Haha yes, and that was a rent-controlled apartment if you can believe it! If we'd paid full market value for that in Santa Monica it would have been more like 5k a month. Give me housesitting and off-grid living any day! ❤️

[@danielw4327]

I loved the 'What do you want to do now?' part. Thanks for sharing this part of your life with us.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

So glad you enjoyed it, Daniel! It's truly our pleasure to share this stuff with you guys, and we cherish all the kind words and good advice we get from you all! ❤️

[@Viajando6301]

Love you guys so much, I find it interesting that I don't get the notifications of new videos ❤

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Oh my gosh thank you, and that is so frustrating that they're not notifying you! Well the good news is that we post every single Thursday at noon PST, so even if they don't notify you just click over to the channel on Thursday and you can count on a new video being up! ❤️

[@julesvis]

Respect! Good for you gorgeous duo !

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks Jules -- life is so good right now!! ❤️

[@tonypilki3]

Very informative video about how you have gone about your business and life in general. Really good to watch. You always seem so well organised although Im sure you have your moments haha. Love the fact you know what you want to do and where you want to be and are adjusting to what ever is thrown at you. Always look forward to see where you will end up next. Take care 🙂

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks so much, Tony, that is a really nice affirmation to hear. We really are going for it this year and next, and have lots more surprises up our sleeves for you guys in the coming months -- including a trip to Costa Rica for some epic waterfall hiking in December! ❤️

[@MyWellnessJourney1]

I've been doing van life for almost 2 years now. I love it!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Amazing!!! That is really inspirational for us to hear, because we've sort of been wondering if the joy of nomadism is going to wear off but so far it definitely hasn't! ❤️

[@MyWellnessJourney1]

@LiveHardxLoveHard It's not easy, but it's been an adventure. I love traveling and vlogging my adventures. Any ?'s about nomad life, I'd be happy to answer. Love you guys!

[@spburas]

Y’all are an inspiration! Love your living out your dreams.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thank you so much! It really does feel wonderful, and we love getting to document and share it with you guys because it really keeps us motivated to explore new and interesting things! ❤️

[@ariannetrujillo2558]

Way to go guys! ❤

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks Arianne -- we're loving it so far!! ❤️

[@porkbelly602]

Check out the Black Hills of South Dakota. Beautiful mountains with great hiking and climbing and nearby Rapid City has reasonable and plentiful apartment rents. Thanks for taking us along on your adventures.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

We are definitely planning to check out the Black Hills! Next year we're thinking of taking a cross country trip and trying to find the best hike in every state, and we're counting on the Black Hills for some good ones! ❤️

[@runninghighOG]

That's amazing, guys! Really happy for you both. The Outback is amazing for the great outdoors. Equip it with all-terrain tires and skit plates and it can take you pretty far. We have the same set up with the sky box and it's been a great home away from home. We're not ready to make it a full-time home, though. Haha! Heads off to you both. Take care!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks very much, and this is such timely advice! We literally just did a climb this weekend where we were wishing for all-terrain tires and skid plates on the three-mile drive in. Some of the gnarliest, most rutted and boulder-filled "road" we've ever encountered. The Subie handled it like a champ, but we had to stop and literally push another car out of the way that had gotten totally stuck. Seriously stoked that you guys have the same set up -- whenever we go to the really cool hardcore hiking places, it always seems like the most popular choice in trailhead parking lots! ❤️

[@firdosvohra4315]

I’m totally doing this.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes!!! That is what we like to hear! If we all keep encouraging and inspiring one another on these adventures, we're going to have the best and most exciting lives ever! ❤️

[@skyepilotte11]

Thanks Adam and Elise...I admire what it takes to abandon the city life and going off grid. Many people seem to be doing that lifestyle. Wish you well in all your endeavors and stay safe out there.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thank you so much! It really feels like a great adventure, and we're so grateful to have you guys supporting and advising us in it! ❤️

[@miguelbarreto]

Smart decision, best luck on your new life style!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks Miguel! So happy with how it's going so far, and we will def keep you guys updated! ❤️

[@KVLMOMMA-j5b]

Love that you guys are doing this

[@KVLMOMMA-j5b]

And we were just complaining about hotel, airbnb, vrbo prices. We want to travel but its disgusting to charge so much for 1 night!!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks very much! And oh my gosh, we feel you on those prices. We're fine to stay at motels and airbnbs in places that are reasonably priced, but in a lot of popular places the prices are just laughably high. The good news is that we love being off grid anyway, so there's never even any debate -- when the prices are high, we just find the nearest dispersed camping and stay for free! ❤️

[@TrueWindHealingTravel]

Thanks so much for posting! So valuable. I am not far behind you with this lifestyle minus the climbing! 😊

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That is wonderful to hear! Please let us know when you do it, and what set up you decide to use. We're going to do more videos in the future about the different options, like van-life vs. car camping, and break down the expenses, etc. ❤️

[@colbyclay5911]

This video was so interesting! Glad to see you guys are enjoying your nomad lives. As a travel nurse, I’m not quite in a situation where I’m interested in living off-grid full time, but for months at a time, this video gave me plenty of ideas. Quick questions if you get a chance to reply: how do you typically manage showering/bathing? Does starlink still work well when it’s overcast? (I know it’s supposed to, but wondered about your experience)

[@betsyclarke185]

Also curious about bathing!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

These are great questions, Colby. For bathing, as you know we really prefer lakes and waterfalls so whenever possible we camp near a natural body of water. We have actually come to prefer that to a regular shower! But when there is no natural water, we usually just go without showering (drinking water in the car is too precious to use for bathing) and then shower at the gym whenever we come into town to work out, which is pretty often. So far the Starlink has been perfect even when it's overcast. Will definitely update you though if we have any problems with it once we get into rainy season, etc! ❤️

[@funiguy8779]

Loved this!! Looks great but I can imagine it's hard work to keep everything safe and organised.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Oh my gosh you are right about that. We try to stay organized, but it's so easy to just throw things down when you're tired or busy and that car becomes SO messy in a hurry if we don't stay on top of it every minute! ❤️

[@JohnCrenshaw]

Love this, y’all make me smile!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks John! We love sharing these adventures with you guys!! ❤️

[@tawilso]

Fun video guys! I can see some great advantages to living off the grid plus I think it suits your adventurous lifestyle 🎉

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes! We've been feeling the same way. We actually budgeted plenty of cash to stay in hotels or airbnbs if we want to, but we're actually loving staying off-grid because, like you say, it just fits really well with the adventures we do and we can basically just get out of the car or tent and be right there at the trailhead! ❤️

[@patrickleborio]

This is so awesome!!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks Patrick! So happy to share this part of the adventures with you guys! ❤️

[@johnmcnulty1129]

Fantastic vlog Adam & Elise. Very interesting how you guys are operating logistically. Costs involved in maintaining a house these days, especially the ever growing single market ! Seeing more & more embracing the "van life" Saw on the news, some poor guy in Tampa saw a Tornado rip away his house roof, leaving the inside open to the elements, even before Milton racked up ! Good for you two if caught up in a biblical storm's path, just load up & get out of "Dodge" Love you guys ☀️ 🦅 Stay safe 🤍 😺😸 ❤

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

John we've been thinking exactly the same thing! We get the heck out of Dodge even when some rainy weather rolls in because we don't want to waste a single weekend without at least one awesome adventure! And of course if there was a major disaster that took down all the electricity like what just happened in North Carolina, it wouldn't affect us at all. We are totally independent of the electrical grid and also the water supply with all our excellent filters. If there is a big disaster in one of the states we're in or close to, we've already talked about taking our Jackery-Starlink setup there in order to help everyone who's cut off communicate with their loved ones! ❤️

[@jaredempey5706]

This is an interesting video. Thanks for sharing. I liked your solar and power solutions. My wife and I lived off grid for a summer when we first got married and it taught us a lot. One thing that I was curious about was your water setup. When I am gone for a week, I take our old Ford E350 with two 7 gallon water jugs and cots inside. In the summer, a daily shower is no problem because it is hot enough to heat the water. In colder months, a Coleman two burner grill works great as a water heater. Interested to see more of how you are roughing it!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks Jared! We will definitely do further videos on these issues, and the water question is a good one. We use natural bodies of water to bathe or just skip it for a couple days if natural water isn't available. We haven't yet stayed anywhere for more than a weekend that doesn't have natural water to bathe in, but if we do we'll def need to follow your plan and bring extra bathing water because 3 days would be too long! ❤️

[@RobertFairweatherMusic]

Two words...Sprinter Van. Godspeed. Good luck on your adventures.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes Robert! That was under serious consideration when we were starting out, and now that we're starting to figure out all the things we like and don't like it is under even more serious consideration! ❤️

[@sluggotinfantryman]

Friends. That have houses.

[@MagellanandGreyhound]

Very cool! We used to do a lot of off grid stuff. I have two recommendations. Get a portable jump starter and a small battery block. Put them in the glove compartment, check on them sometimes to make sure they remain charged, but otherwise forget about them. Equipment fails - your jackery plug, a microchip, connections, anything - and having a way to jump your car or juice your phones while you reach civilization is a must.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

These are great suggestions! And it reminded me of something we should have added in the video -- the Jackery solar panel has its own direct plug-in too for phones, etc, so even if we accidentally dropped the Jackery off a cliff or something we could still at least charge stuff direct off the solar. ❤️

[@IreneSanMiguel]

Love your videos! Would love to see you guys do Angel’s Landing in Zion! 🌞😇

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks so much, Irene -- we're really happy you're enjoying them! We actually did an awesome video on Angel's Landing a couple years ago but had to take it down because some Karen complained we were being too dangerous on it 😥. But maybe we'll go back and do it again -- we love Zion! ❤️

[@brianmahern6699]

You guys rock. Counting down my early “retirement”. Great insights.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Brian that is so fantastic. How long do you have left now? ❤️

[@brianmahern6699]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard I keep pushing it back wanting to make sure I don’t run out of money due to inflation. That is a real thing these days. New date is Nov ‘25. Fingers crossed.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

@@brianmahern6699 I totally relate to that. I'm still accepting work from old clients (at an increased rate of course!) mostly out of loyalty because they're great people, but having an extra cushion/hedge against potential inflation is definitely part of it too. --A

[@ft3Safety1st2]

Thanks for sharing! I didn't know you two went off grid completely, that's awesome. Adam, Elise is right, Love is Blind is a great show! 😀 Are you two considering upgrading to a van for more room?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Nick I am so glad you are with me on Love is Blind, and that's a great question! We seriously considered getting a Sprinter type of setup from the start, but when we worked out the numbers (including gas with all the miles we drive) we thought it would actually be better to get the Subaru and do mostly Airbnbs and housesitting. But then we started having so much fun and adventure every time we stay off grid that now we're once again seriously considering doing a bigger off-road capable van rig! Of course you guys will be the first to know if and when we make the change!! ❤️ --E

[@ropecutter]

nice job

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks very much -- life is feeling pretty darn good right now! ❤️

[@WorldT]

thanks for sharing, a good move and always a good experience to even just try it out for a while as well.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thank you, yes that's exactly what we're thinking too! So far we've done motel, airbnb, housesitting, and off-grid, and we've actually been enjoying and doing the housesittting and off-grid the most, which is great because they're obviously by far the least expensive. ❤️

[@petr-podrouzek]

SUPER !!! 🙂

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks Petr! Glad to share the our car-camping setup with you! ❤️

[@monteharms8518]

Great ideas for living off the grid! If you're ever in Albuquerque, you have a free Airbnb stay at my place.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks so much, Monte! We would love that, and are marking it down for when we do our "best hikes in all 50 states" tour! ❤️

[@michaelboettcher2163]

You guys rock! Love your videos! You need to do another video on what some of your favorite passive income investments are?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks Michael! We will be happy to do that. We're planning to give you guys updates on how the early retirement plans are going anyway, and it will be no problem to talk about our passive income investments (Adam loves talking about that kind of stuff!) ❤️

[@lorinajoy3597]

You guys never cease to amaze me! I love this! Do you have a gym membership for showering and working out? What is your bathroom system? And lastly do you just keep bear spray in the tent just in case of big animals? Stay safe enjoying each day to the max, and I'm excited for you in your future retirement! ❤🎊

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Lorina these are great questions!! Yes we have a 24-hour Fitness membership with buddy pass, and we go there all the time for workouts, showers, etc. It is amazing, by the way, how nice the 24-hour fitnesses in Colorado are! And yes we do have bear spray for when we go up north into grizzly territory. We're not too worried about black bears, because we've encountered plenty of them over the years and they're pretty harmless, but grizzlies are a whole other story. The bathroom system really depends on where we're staying. A lot of times there is a trailhead bathroom close by which is great, but sometimes it's either a WAG bag or dig down 6-12 inches. That aspect would definitely be the allure of a bigger rig with a black-water tank! ❤️

[@matt_w]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard Get a 5 gallon Home Depot bucket lined with a kitchen trash bag (or wag bag), throw a few inches of kitty litter in the bottom and you can buy a sealable bucket top with a toilet cutout on it. You can also get a pop-up privacy stall that folds down to a flat circle like a windshield cover. Tips from pandemic travelling when we couldn't go inside anywhere.

[@1955porsche]

u both are smart,, always welcome at my hous if your out this way ,,, i know 2 ppl doing this...stay safe

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thank you so much, and that is great to know! I think at some point next year we're going to actually try to make an itinerary for a couple of months where we stay with as many of you guys as we can and make a fun video about it -- and of course we'll do a post about that well ahead of time to let you know the time frame! ❤️

[@maomaniarocks]

nice. i usually put some sort of small umbrella over my power station.

[@mountains1233]

You could also get a piece of packing cardboard put it on top and then weigh it down with the rock or something

[@matt_w]

Super interesting video! Thanks for the tips :) Y'all are hardcore; I never see you sitting in chairs (except for giant ones in Bishop.) :)

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Haha we've actually just been talking about whether we should get a couple of those little fold-up camp chairs, Matt! Adam actually likes to lie down while he works, but I wouldn't mind an outdoor chair to sit in while editing videos and things like that. ❤️ --E

[@sidvish159]

Congrats on getting out of CA and the crazy expensive rent there. Sounds like you all are having a blast doing the nomad thing. What's the plan for winter?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks very much! Winter is gonna be a blast. We're looking at Costa Rica, Tahoe, and Hawaii already for sure, and then playing the rest by ear. But you can see the overall plan is to have some of it in warm beautiful climates with great hiking, and some of it in snowy places with great skiing and snowshoeing. ❤️

[@QuinnMcHale]

Didn't know you guys hit Burning Man. Sucks about the mud, but I'm sure you made your own adventure!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Haha we definitely did, Quinn! We became psycho-nauts for a day or two, and had a very memorable time dancing barefoot in the mud! ❤️

[@tombellanca]

Thanks for the update! Glad to hear things are going so well. I’m certainly jealous! 😊. Surprised off line maps are an issue. Do you use Gaia? I’ve found their offline maps are perfect for all those times without cellular. Another subscription to carry though… Can’t wait to see where winter takes you- I’m guessing you’ll go deeper not south ❤

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thanks Tom! Yes we use Alltrails and Gaia which are fantastic for hiking and trailheads, but dispersed camping spots can be super tricky sometimes. People don't tend to post super accurate information about them -- maybe to keep them under the radar -- but we're starting to figure out the tricks of the trade. We have a bunch of tricks up our sleeve we can't wait to share with you this winter, including trips to Costa Rica and Kauaii plus some serious Tahoe snowshoe adventuring!!!! ❤️

[@juyaghanaie1856]

I had the same setup for a month long March madness powder highway ski trip. It’s really great for that. But honestly now I have a van. I slept like a baby for the most part in most places where there wasn’t plowing.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That is great to hear about the van -- congratulations! Did you by any chance get the flat mobile Starlink for it that attaches to the roof? We're curious how that compares to the dish setup we have. ❤️

[@planesandbikes7353]

very helpful car camping info! Might be doing this occasionally in coming years, though we am carrying 3 houses in my early retirement. Makes me think I should have considered the Outback instead my new Crosstrek.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

So glad to hear you are thinking about this! It is definitely the most fun we've ever had with any living situation, bar none. The feeling of absolute freedom is truly intoxicating. The Outback is a great ride, but Crosstreks are pretty awesome too -- just not quite as much room for sleeping, but you could probably make it work! ❤️

[@russellzauner]

Thanks for the nostalgia! The good ol days before your maps automatically downloaded tiles and you had to spend hours saving and importing kml files lol

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Haha yes! I remember taking trips in a Volkswagen van with pop up top back in the day -- awesome!! ❤️

[@legendarytrails]

I love the Subaru setup. It's nice and simple, and you still get good mileage. If you want to keep doing this long-term, you might want to look into a truck camper like Bound for Nowhere. Personally, I think their truck setup is fantastic and would fit your style of adventure more than a sprinter van.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That is great advice, and we are right there with you. The Subaru is an amazing car for putting in a ton of road miles and also great for a few nights at a time off grid, but then it's also super nice to come have a bathroom and comfy bed when we're housesitting, etc. If we really decide to go full time off grid we will definitely want a bigger and more comfortable rig. ❤️

[@wanyingtian1067]

This is so amazing!!!! Also I have a question about off-trail hiking: how do you usually find off-trail scrambling routes? and how do you know how difficult (class 2 3 4 5) it will be at certain spots? (I am also in SoCal if that's relevant). Thanks!!!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Thank you, and that's a good question. We often get personal recommendations from other hikers and climbers we know, which is the best because then it is very reliable information. Also, there are a lot of sites that give good reports about routes, from AllTrails to Summitpost to Peakbagger, and they will let you know if it is class 3, 4, or 5, and how difficult the class 5 parts are. Often it's a route with just one or two low class 5 moves, which we usually will treat as class 4 and something we can probably do without ropes. ❤️

[@SnipetsofTime]

Have u guys ever considered buying a small rv with a shower and toilet to avoid paying for lodging? The smallest one from cruise American is very nice and it can house 3 people. Would be perfect for you two

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes we thought about it very seriously before we started out on the nomad journey! But when we figured out how many miles we'd be driving, and worked out the gas cost and price differential in the vehicles, it seemed like getting lodging occasionally was actually the cheaper option! However, now that we're enjoying off grid living so much it's probably just a matter of time until we upgrade to a bigger and more comfortable and bathroom-equipped rig! ❤️

[@sluggotinfantryman]

Dolphin with extended cab but they can't offroad like Subaru.

[@tbaker294]

It's going to get cold for living in the wild!!! Meteorologists are predicting atmospheric rivers again for Cali this winter season. Here in Phx, we FINALLY failed to reach +100 in over 3 weeks. 21 straight days of record highs every day. Prior to the current streak, we had 4 or 5 days where the high pressure broke, and only hit the mid 90's; that was after 113 straight days of +100 (many over 115). Anyhow, Quartzsite AZ is warm enough in the winter...maybe escape to Yuma...but it is boring. A little cooler in Joshua Tree (I'm sure I'm telling you guys nothing new). That Subaru is nice; but a nice used (and affordable) Lexus 460gx would do you two well. I'm 6'3", and love my 4Runner...but I'm considering a change. Hopefully you don't block me for unsolicited advice (lol); I'm sure it gets old. Last; I'm an old guy... now in my 60's... a lot more cautious (did a lot of things that now look dumb...were dumb...like walking across Death Valley at Badwater several years back on a day when the "official" high was 129). I wonder when you two look back at your videos in 30 years; if you'll be saying "Wow, we dodged a catastrophe that day"!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Ya you're right -- it already just started to get cold here in the Rockies a couple days ago. We're gonna stay in CO for a couple more weeks and then head back toward Cali for November, but then we have a big surprise for you guys -- we're going to REALLY head south to Costa Rica for a month and escape the winter cold! And if it works out well, we'll probably keep on doing that plan of spending at least a couple months of winter in a Southern Hemisphere place, or Hawaii, or wherever is warm and nice with great hikes and adventures to do! ❤️

[@IGE278]

Thank you again for sharing all this stuff - this is very interesting and as always, gets us to know you and your lifes better 🙏 But I guess, that you are posting the video on this channel means, the early-retirement-channel is no more, right?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Andre that is a great question! We decided for now just to fold the early retirement channel ideas into this channel and also into some of the member videos. Eventually, when we don't have to do paying work anymore, we definitely still want to do both channels, but for now with how busy we are it's easier just to keep everything on the LH2 channel. ❤️

[@lukeskywalkerbachman]

You guys have such an amazing Setup! If I had one recommendation for you, it would be potentially upgrading your Yeti cooler to a 12v dc electric cooler like the Iceco go20 cooler. It can save you guys from having to do ice runs and expand your options for food like ice cream. It can run right off of your Jackery Explorer 1000v2 power station and run for days. I just got one and I highly recommend it! :) For the future you guys can also upgrade and get a Portable Hot Shower system like the Hottap system from Joolca. It uses propane to heat up the water and for the water pump you power it with the Jackery.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

This is great advice! It will be emotionally hard to ditch the Yeti because it's been with us for so long, but a cooler plugged into the Jackery would be way more convenient. We are going to look into this. ❤️

[@hermannschmidt9788]

The land of the free. I am envious. Have you considered using a roof tent?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes Hermann! The reason we didn't go with a rooftop tent is that since we're now living from the car full time we have a lot of extra gear we need to carry with us for climbing, mountaineering, etc, so we really need a car top carrier to hold a lot of that stuff. Our freestanding tent only takes up a tiny bit of space in the car top carrier, whereas most roof tents would replace the car top carrier completely so we couldn't carry as much stuff. Car top tents are super cool, but they are better for weekend trips for people who live in a house or apartment, as opposed to people who have to carry all their belongings on the road with them full time. ❤️

[@hermannschmidt9788]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard Right, with a top box that is competing for space on the roof, a tent would be a hindrance.

[@athiest4you]

maybe get a car gps that runs off satellites . cheap and no cell towers needed. I bring mine when renting cars . love what you guys are doing !

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes those things are great! We actually had one before we got the Starlink, but now we don't need it because we can just set the Starlink up anywhere and download the routes we need. But you are right that they are essential when renting cars if you're gonna be outside of cell service!! ❤️

[@sergelainesse7893]

Will Comment later or tomorrow Elise.. I am sick now with flu, fever and headache.. Will get to bed early to relax... Have a great evening... 😭

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Oh no Serge, I'm so sorry to hear that! I hope you're taking care of yourself and drinking lots of fluids, and that you wake up feeling better tomorrow! ❤️

[@sergelainesse7893]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard thank you Elise I appreciate so much.. I took a sick day today from work as I have many left so I will rest for 4 days as Monday is Thanksgiving for us in Canada.. And on the 20 going to Cayo Coco Cuba for a week in an all inclusive resort.. I have enjoyed your video this early morning and it's awesome to see how organized both of you are and the difference of costs is crazy.. Hope you can keep it up for long... Have a great day and weekend Elise... 🤗😘✌️

[@Justamusicguy-b3y]

I Hike With My Kid, And The Hardest Trail We Have Done Is San Jacinto. Also, There Is A 6 Pack Of Peaks Challenge You Might Want To Do.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That is so great that you hike with your kid -- it is an all-time great family activity, and San Jacinto is a gorgeous hike. We have done the whole 6 pack of peaks, many of them in both summer and winter, and I think we've made videos of all of them. Baldy, Cucamonga, San Gorgonio, and San Jacinto are all amazing in the snow! ❤️

[@Justamusicguy-b3y]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard I think you missed San bernadino peak

[@Justamusicguy-b3y]

It’s epic

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

@@Justamusicguy-b3y We did it as part of a 4 peaks in a day hike -- we loved it!

[@kennykaizen]

Awesome and adventurous lifestyle. Have you guys ever considered doing this in Asia (much better bang for your bucks), like Thailand or something, for a year or so? It would be cool to see you guys doing crazy hikes and living in different parts of the world.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes Kenny! In fact, we're going to start experimenting with that idea in December by going to Costa Rica for a month. You can probably guess why -- because it's not only inexpensive, but it also has some of the world's most beautiful waterfall hikes! ❤️

[@AldenWeebsta]

You guys are so cute. Love this video, super interesting! Now only if I can convince my wife to live out of a car...

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Haha thanks Alden! I'll tell you the way to start. Get a comfortable mattress and bedding in the back of your SUV, and take her to a spectacular dispersed camping spot like Alabama Hills in the Sierra for the weekend. Bring a bottle of wine, the whole thing. That was the first dispersed camping Elise and I ever did, and now many years later she's the one convincing me to do more off-grid living! --A

[@geoast01]

You should do a video on your investments. I’d be interested in that.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

We will absolutely include this on our end-of year status video!

[@ferretzfan]

In your cost savings, what about car insurance, gasoline, that sort of thing? Thanks - you two are killin’ it. Also, what Subaru model is that?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

These are excellent questions, Linda! It's a Subaru Outback, and we'll do a full breakdown for you guys at the end of the year of all our expense categories including gas, insurance, etc. But the short version is that car expenses haven't gone up nearly as much as we expected, because we used to have to drive so far every weekend from LA for adventures and that was already putting a lot of extra miles on the car. Now we are still traveling to a lot of places and putting on a lot of miles, but we can actually stay in those places for a few weeks at a time so the overall mileage hasn't increased that much -- plus gas in states other than California is way less expensive! ❤️

[@bostjanovamuzika]

i hope you find under roof accomodation that suits you. subaru will be to small long term..motorhome maybe? it is possible to get AWD one

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes if we decide to do permanent off grid the Subaru will definitely be too small. Right now it's great because we're alternating between different situations, but for full-time off grid we would probably do some sort of cool camper van setup! ❤️

[@briantodd4887]

Hi Guys! Wow- I missed a few months and you go nomad on me! Kudos!! We have a very similar set up! The Outback is a great vehicle for car camping. I was wondering about Starlink- good to know. I went with an EBL power station- similar to Jackery and have your same cooler! Lol. What mattress did you go with? I’m happy with my Exped MegaMat single (since it’s just me) and I use the space behind the driver side for plastic storage bins which sit flush with the mattress ( behind passenger side). I went with two side by side Thule XT Sport (smaller) roof top boxes which pack a ton and have room to attach a side awning. I will say that purchasing inexpensive window nets, usb portable fans, and a set of WeatherTech shades helps tremendously. Walmart sells a black folding table that slides form fitting under the single mattress from hatch to crack line of back seat… this levels out when placing back seats down. Don’t forget to reverse the back headrests to prop mattress! Lol. Tricks of the trade, So proud of you two! How often do you sprinkle in a hotel / airbnb stay per month? I’m still in Charleston SC, fully retired but still have my pet and housesitting service. Thinking of selling my condo for good and doing the car camping full time. I’d love to know your thoughts on pros and cons. Hope to see you on the trails one day! Brian

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Brian this is fantastic stuff! Love your pet sitting housesitting plan. We can't pet sit due to some of our adventures taking us away from the pets for a full day, but housesitting has been amazing so far. Your advice is great, and we do have some stuff like window nets (that we made ourselves, cause you know how we do) and storage bins. We'll do a more full break down in future, and also a breakdown of van vs. car (with some hotel and airbnb) in terms of expenses and convenience. Really love your suggestions, and will most likely take several. Once you leave the condo you will absolutely love the Starlink. It is a miraculous device, and for us it makes all the difference to be able to connect from wherever we are. ❤️

[@FatpackingSmitty]

Mmm Aspen, a place where the beer flows like wine and the beautiful hotels cost more than all the salmon of the Capistrano.

[@SteveOvsFidel]

it’s my happy place

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Hahaha yes! But luckily the dispersed camping options in the area are incredible, and for people who prefer a regular campsite with bathrooms and showers there are also fantastic options for about $25 a night that aren't usually fully booked up during shoulder season! ❤️

[@billyruss]

So strange to think of you answering comments completely out in the wild like that. Love to know where you are when you reply to this! 🙂

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes Billy it's so much fun! You wouldn't believe some of the crazy and beautiful places where we post up and work, or edit videos, or answer comments from you guys. Maybe we'll do a short vid in the future just showing us working in a bunch of different off grid spots! ❤️

[@harlanwhitley5911]

That's some crazy rent! What do you think you will do when it starts snowing, heavily? Move to a drier climate? More power to you guys!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That is a great question, Harlan! We're thinking half and half. We'll do Costa Rica and Hawaii for a month each when it's really cold, but we'll also embrace the snow and do a month in Tahoe for some snowshoeing and maybe even some ski mountaineering adventures! ❤️

[@mountains1233]

Really cool, but how is your quality of work on those conditions and have you considered a tiny cargo trailer?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That's a great question! We actually think the quality of work goes up because there are virtually no other distractions. I always used to hear about my favorite writers going off into some cabin in the woods to write their novels or whatever, and now I'm actually starting to understand why. ❤️

[@Newstatejournal1]

It looks like you two could use more headroom. I wonder if a minivan is an option?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes van and truck conversions are both things we're considering! We're giving it a full year of trying different places and things (off-grid, a month-long airbnb, etc) before making more permanent decisions, but given how much we're loving off-grid life so far a tall van like a Sprinter might be the ultimate choice. ❤️

[@robertcalonico8008]

Lincoln lawyer--good choice! I suspect a lot of things change w/the onset of cold weather, rain, etc--do you continue to camp or do more hotels? Stay safe and love to you both.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

You're right about that, Bob! Winter is going to be less car camping and more monthly airbnbs for sure, but that will be a fun change of pace! ❤️

[@abrar4662]

Serious car question? Have you guys ever heard of a key fob draining a car battery in under 3 hours? I sat nearby (about 10 feet) to my car at a campsite with my key fob, and less than 3 hours later the car battery is dead, new car. Also, awesome video, appreciate you guys so much! And you're so adorable together!

[@betsyclarke185]

I’m curious about this too since I just bought a Subaru & want to start car camping & have heard the thing with the key fob.

[@tomphillips3162]

Anytime you are within 10 feet or closer with your car your key fob and battery are communicating and draining your batteries. Most common with Subaru. Subaru says six and a half feet but I think at.10 feet it is still true.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Wow honestly we had not heard that but thank you for telling us! Fortunately we haven't had that happen yet -- maybe because we got the basic version with an actual key that you turn in the ignition rather than the fancier version with a push-button start. Do you have the push-button kind by any chance? ❤️

[@betsyclarke185]

@@LiveHardxLoveHardyes I have the push button

[@luciano136]

I applaud the effort, but curious about plans for foul weather? A friend of mine lived out of his Subaru for a few years, but it was not an easy life; he wouldn't do it again.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That's a great question, Bruno. Our plan during the cold rainy months coming up this year is mostly to travel to beautiful warm places, including Costa Rica and Hawaii, and stay in Airbnbs. That will obviously be much more expensive than off-grid living, but it will hopefully be a lot of fun and give us more perspective on what kind of retirement life we want to lead. If we end up liking it as much as we like off-grid living, then maybe we'll just always alternate between the two! ❤️

[@luciano136]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard Nice! That will definitely make it a lot more enjoyable. Living part-time out of a truck camper is our retirement plan as well.

[@alanmiller1911]

Adam & Elise..I have been thinking about doing this myself. What do you use for a living address on documents such as drivers licenses, vehicle insurance and registration, etc.?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Great question, Alan! We're currently using my parents' house in Northern California for all that stuff, and they've been kind enough just to hold our mail for us in a box. ❤️ --E

[@Weathernerd27]

I'm an electrician who gets sent to construction sites all over the Seattle area and if I'm working at a site thats more than 30 miles or 1 hours drive from my condo than I live in my hybrid SUV during the workweek and come back home on the weekend. I'm hoping to sell my condo as soon as I have enough equity to break even the HOA is too hard to deal with and its too expensive. I'll try to rent a cheap place when I sell the condo but if there are no affordable rentals or the landlords have crazy rules like no guests then I might get a slightly bigger car and live in it full time. My SUV is stealthy enough that I can park in neighborhoods the key is having curtains that keep light from escaping, a couple big batteries, a small microwave and my phone has wifi hotspot capability, going to a different neighborhood each night and not going to the sleeping spot until dusk. Temperature control is a bit of a problem I have to park in the shade, crack the windows and use fans during the summer and run a heater during the winter. The great thing about a hybrid is you can run the climate control for several hours and only use like 1/2 a gallon of gas, it runs off the hybrid battery most of the time and the gas engine turns on for a few minutes when the hybrid battery gets low. I too am trying to early retire although its hard when you are priced out of the housing market/can't build equity. I can start collecting a small electrician pension in my late 50's and withdrawing from my Roth IRA at 59.5 but I might have to live in a car or sailboat my first few years of retirement until the pension/IRA/Social Security kick in. I know some people frown on living in vehicles but where there are no affordable legal options what do they expect us to do? So long as rents and houses keep going up faster than inflation we will see more people living this way yet neither party wants to talk about the housing problem.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Your set up sounds awesome!!! And forget about people who frown on you living in your car. If you're doing it in a responsible way, which you obviously are, and it helps you live the best life you can, which it definitely will, then you should go for it. Plus, once you retire and are free to travel wherever, you will have so much fun adventuring to new places! And it's not like you can't get a cheap motel or airbnb whenever you feel like it. We do that often, and overall it is still way less expensive that paying rent/mortgage/condo fees, etc! ❤

[@DLCORTIN]

To charge the Jackery fast while driving, connect a Renogy 12 Volt DC to DC charger between the car battery and the Jackery. Much faster than the cigarette lighter plug.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That's great advice, thank you! We definitely noticed that the cigarette lighter plug is pretty slow. The solar, though, is super fast when the sun's out! ❤️

[@soupnfresh]

Cool new lifestyle. Have you guys considered building a tiny home on wheels or even converting a small camper/trailer that your car can tow a with a full bathroom, kitchen and storage area?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes! We thought about several options, including towing a trailer with a bathroom, but decided we wanted to keep cost and commitment low while we experimented. Now that we're enjoying being off grid so much, we will at some point probably do an upgrade either to a towed trailer or just a bigger rig with a black water tank. ❤️

[@ellenclary]

Thanks for the Jakery info. I'm looking for one when the house power is out. Will it run a refrigerator? I so totally could not do what you're doing. We have a Victorian in Alameda (come visit) and I really like growing tomatoes in our backyard. Not to mention the dog really likes her pricy digs. She'll travel with us to hotels and family houses, but while we like camping she tends to hear and bark at ghosts so she is not a great candidate for the great outdoors.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Ellen the Jackery would be perfect for when the power goes out, and yes it will run the refrigerator -- though not constantly all day. A big fridge will pull about 500 watts or so, which would drain the battery in about three hours if you have the solar running. However, by not opening the door too much and turning it on for an hour or two every four hours you could keep stuff cold almost indefinitely, and of course keep all your other electronics charged as well. ❤️

[@markfoy4340]

Nice guys! Is awesome u can do this! Question was showering/bathing?? Where do u do that? Lakes, rivers, streams, hotels, AirBnB's? Keep up the great work

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Yes you have it exactly! We prefer lakes and waterfalls and can usually find a way to be pretty close to them, but we also often will do nights in a hotel or airbnb which lets us really get showered and also do laundry, etc. Also, whenever we want a shower we often will do it at whatever gym we stop to work out at in whatever town we're driving through! ❤️

[@DanMiller33]

If you ever need a place to crash for the night and need to do laundry/shower in Colorado Spings hit us up. My wife (33) and I (35) live in a 5 bedroom 4 bath house. We're close to the Sangre De Cristo's if you ever want to do the Crestone Traverse. We both used to live in SoCal and have hiked all over the West.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Dan thank you, that is awesome!! We would love to come over and do the Crestone Traverse, and it would be a blast to stay with you guys too (maybe the day after rather than the day before the traverse, so we wouldn't wake you up at 4am when we were setting out!). ❤️

[@tbaker294]

Maybe consider???? A strong box (lockable, and with sturdy handles to draw a chain thru it and lock it to the bottom of a seat). Several years ago; several vehicles (including my friends) at the "horseshoe" pull off parking spot at the Salmon Falls trailhead (south of Big Sur on PC) was broken into. Unfortunately, I had an $800 flash unit stolen. To make matters worse; my friend didn't file a claim; so I was out a flash unit. And (sort of funny); to make it really bad, we got to Big Sur St Park...my friend decided not to gas up, and to do it in the morning before heading up to Carmel to find a place to fix his smashed drivers window. Well, the evening went well...had a camp dinner and a couple beers b4 getting into our tents under the redwoods. At 1 in the morning, my tent zipper comes down, and a flashlight in my face, and my friend saying "We gotta bug out of here Troy". Long story short, after 45 min of trying to convince him everything was fine (he was having some type of psychotic attack); we packed his vehicle up (a Scion SUV) and pulled out of Big Sur heading north. Well, his scion had about 1/8th of a tank of gas, and the station (west side of PCH from park entrance) at 230am was closed and didn't have an auto pay at the pump. So, we are driving up PCH to Carmel; middle of July...LA the day prior was in an extreme heat wave. As you know, PCH gets cold at night; and the temp was below 40. We both had brought jackets and knit hats. The moon was full, and the fog was intermittent along the cliffs...so taht was neat...other than we were pretty cold (smashed out window... heat on max didn't help). Thankfully, we got to Carmel without running out of gas, and the 1st station was closed; but was still able to pay and pump. Still very cold, as we made our way over to the central valley, down the 101...as the sun rose, still cold...made or way over to the 5...by time we got to Pasadena, it was no longer cold; it was well in the 90's and I was so pissed that I had taken a week from work, to be ruined by his extreme claustrophobia, that I refused to stop ( get jackets off and get into shorts...we are both big guys, and changing on the drive is not possible in his little SUV). Oh...I had the driving duty, because he was still a freaked out. Anyhow, finally got changed out...but now it's back to really hot. We did hit a huge summer rainstorm coming back across to (to Phoenix), that helped cool things down some. That night, went to my brother in laws house...he said "I thought you and Jack were out camping for 5 days"...before I said anything, he said,, (Oh no, don't tell me...he started freaking out in his tent". Turns out he did the same thing on a deep sea trip out of San Diego... but on that trip; he had to deal with it for a few days. Anyhow...a strong box....I keep valuables in it and chain it to tie down points in the 4Runner.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

OMG that is a fantastic story! And also really good advice. Our biggest worry is having our car broken into while we're out on an adventure, because we have so much expensive gear in it. We can't lock up the Starlink, etc, but we could at least with computers and such. Can you say what exactly you chain the lockbox to in the car to make sure someone can't just yank it out? ❤️

[@tbaker294]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard I just use a heavy duty chain; thru a handle and under the seat and around the bottom chair support. I found a steel "job/tool" box at Harbor Freight years back; locks and has handles to thread a chain thru (or; use a heavy duty bike cable lock). Holds my camera gear, computer, and other valuables. If I'm camping, and want to use the back of the vehicle, the box is short enough, and I slide it under the rear, and lock it to the axel; one time I locked it around a tree. I keep. note on top "Nothing of real value to steal". Of course, nothing is full proof. I see that Home Depot has some secure storage boxes also. You should invest in a small 8x10' tarp; that has reinforced eyelets; and some 6ft poles to make a cover. Or, tie off the tarp to the vehicle rails, and use 2 poles. You talked about hotel expense...my nephew arrives in a few days; we leave on a 5 day Utah roadtrip (from Phx) early Fri morning. I had planned to get to Moab on Friday (actually, was going to camp in Valley of the Gods...but it will be too cold). Anyhow, the affordable days in Moab hotels ended several years back (especially on the weekend). A cool place to camp in Moab; the Fisher Towers. I think the BLM charges $16. Only 8 spots. Anyhow; reversed the trip; going to Zion (Hurricane) on Friday...much cheaper; then head east thru the Big 5. Green River and Moab on Sun and Monday night; much cheaper.

[@Shane7492]

I would love to do this, but I can't do my job remotely, and my wife likes living in a house. Love seeing others do it, though! Btw, what kind of work does Adam do remotely?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Ya Shane we hear versions of that a lot, which makes us realize how lucky we both are to have fully remote work and to be partners with someone who has the same wanderlust! Adam is a writer, and he's trying to retire but all his clients keep begging him to do "one more job" and also offering him more money, so he's still pretty darn busy! ❤️

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

Those hotel rooms are more than my mortgage. Absolute insanity. Problem is, there are people out there willing to pay that much. That's why it's so high.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

You're saying the absolute truth. In fact, we heard that a lot of the hotels were completely sold out at those prices! We didn't spend a dime on accommodations, but full disclosure we did pig out twice on ribs at the Hickory House restaurant so we didn't escape Aspen totally unscathed 😂. But wow were those ribs good! ❤️

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard Ribs are hard to turn down. You're forgiven. 😋

[@mountains1233]

I don't know if this is something you want to talk about, but I'd love to see a video on how much you can write off all of these costs as business expenses given your youtube channel.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That is a great idea, and we will for sure do a finances video for you guys at the end of the year. The short version is that while we don't make too much on the KZbin, at least we can write off nearly all of it because we have the videos to show that our travel to all of these places is a legitimate business expense. ❤️

[@firdosvohra4315]

What software are you using to manage your finances? Are you manually inputting all revenue/expenses into an Excel sheet? Thank you!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That's a great question. So far we're just putting all expenses on two cash-back credit cards which both helpfully break things down into categories and then we'll tally it all in Excel at the end of the year. We already have to do that with revenue because of taxes. So it should be pretty easy to put it all together for you guys in an end of year breakdown! ❤️

[@firdosvohra4315]

@@LiveHardxLoveHardOk, got it. Thank you!

[@mickeybrumfield764]

Who needs or wants to stealth camp? There are plenty of great places to camp where you don't have to worry about stealth camping. I have been doing what you do, living out of a no build Subaru for a long time without ever stealth camping. I will eventually go with a truck camper, though. A good step up from the fantastic Subaru. 😊

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That is well said, Mickey! And the more we get into off-grid living the more we find people who recommend really great and lesser known dispersed camping spots to us! I think we're eventually going to follow your footsteps with a bigger truck or Sprinter camper set up. The Subaru is so much fun for now, but eventually it will be nice to have a bit more space. ❤️

[@mickeybrumfield764]

@LiveHardxLoveHard When I think about it, 2 people in a Subaru might be a little more difficult than just one person. I have found it to make things go much better to go where the weather is nice. You'll be in the lap of luxury if you get a van after living in a Subaru. Enjoy your videos. Keep up the great content.

[@jimgreenhow4614]

Way thumbs up on this video. Maybe one of the best yet (and I did watch the first one when you were just building the bed in the car). I lived a year and a half outta my car after my roommate got us evicted and it wore me down...but it was all city living in the car. This actually looks really fun. And to be able to travel wherever you want on any given day is really sweet. I didn't know anything about this Jackery thing and thought Starlink was just some satellites that Elon Musk shot into orbit over Ukraine. So, I am going to check out the Jackery with solar and a Starlink connection if I can link it on your page. I'm not a prepper or off-gridder but I think everyone should be prepared right now for any kind of emergencies that could drive them off-grid. I'm still working on a good "bug out bag" but this brings up a whole lot more questions. The only thing I might be worried about is if we were hit with an EMP or a extremely strong CMI, the electromagnetics could knock out whatever power sources you have ...mainly your car. There are companies that build devices that can block this out so your car will still drive though. Maybe worth investigating....although some people say these devices are hoooeey. And I got a gut laugh when one second, Adam is eating a big ass burrito and then in the Yeti he has boxes of grape nuts. LMFAO

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Haha Jim that is so great you've been following this journey ever since that early build video -- thank you! Yes we are absolutely on the same page with you about being prepared for emergencies. In California it's earthquakes of course, but as we're seeing there are lots of other reasons like hurricanes to have an off-grid setup. Literally the power could go out in California for a whole month and it wouldn't affect our connectivity at all -- we are truly and completely off grid, and loving it! ❤️

[@silentlividity923]

Hi You Two (hug HUGE) Smart & very inventive living off grid. My Son & I lived in a 24 foot RV for 10 years. It helped us save enough money to buy our Home we are in now. And? And, we would be honored if you Two ever 'babysat' our Home. Yes, we have all the modern conveniences (wink). GOD BLESSES ALL.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Oh my gosh that is so cool that you guys lived in an RV and saved for your house -- that is really the best of both worlds! And thank you, we might very well take you up on the housesitting offer -- it has been such a great addition for us to be able to enjoy beds and a roof and a kitchen without hotel or airbnb prices! ❤️

[@outbackeddie]

You guys should think about getting a Renogy or Victron DC to DC charger to supplement your solar power. These devices will charge your Jackery at over 200 watts/hr. as you drive. Drive for 2 hours and you get 400 watts plus. And the best part - it works even if it's raining or night time since it works off your car alternator.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That's good advice, Bob. The 1000 always gets us easily through the night but since we only left in June we haven't even had to deal with extensive rain yet. We know the solar will be out, but are very curious to see how the Starlink performs in that kind of weather as well! ❤️

[@larryowens2859]

That is amazing what those hotels go for, incredible, looks like you guys are having a blast, and saving money at the same time, I am curious, what is your plan when you get older and leading a nomad life just does not work ? I realize it's not my business, you don't have to answer, thanks for sharing Larry Owens

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That's a great question, Larry! So it kind of depends on whether we keep loving nomad life as much as we do right now. Our thought is that if we still really love it as we get older we'll probably evolve gradually into more comfortable camper-type vehicles, month-long cruises, nice cushy airbnbs and things like that. But of course at some point we'll probably also just find a nice modest house, most likely somewhere in the Bishop/Mammoth or Tahoe area to use as a home base. One nice thing is that if we keep living as inexpensively as we are now, we will hopefully have a good amount saved up for a house when that time comes! ❤️

[@RobRando927]

I remember you had bicycles and Adam had a Cannondale.You sold them ? Elise is such a Suzy homemaker out there.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Good memory, Rob! We actually stored them in a cheap storage locker near the Sierra along with some of our winter stuff like snowshoes, so we can still grab them if we want to do a biking adventure -- which we probably will! ❤️

[@KarlDeckerPresents]

OMG, love is blind? Noooo, my wife has that affliction as well, terrible! I roll with a jackery too, star link at home and I just download my Netflix,lol. Even when deep wilderness camping. It is a life saver for the long nights coming. I feel like it’s perfect for me in my big ol’ Tundra. You guys may need a truck to save your marriage, lol! But seriously, lol. I feel even that is a bit tight for me and the wife. . .

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Hahaha Karl I'm so glad someone else besides me has to deal with Love is Blind! I cannot understand how anyone can watch these reality shows. That is awesome you've got the Jackery and Starlink too -- and ya if we keep staying off grid as much as we are right now, we're definitely going to need a bigger rig! --A

[@Twobarpsi]

Great video! How do you shower? Also, E stop blocking the sun 😃!!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Well you've been watching us long enough to know that as long as we're close to a natural body of water, which is usually the case with our camping spots, we don't need a shower. But sometimes we're not near natural water and have to go a couple days without a shower -- no big deal unless it's really hot and sweaty out. Once it gets past two days, though, we pretty much always at least drive into town for at least a gym workout and an actual shower! ❤️

[@jeremys6631]

So, in few more months y'all can upgrade to 4Runner with that savings and go farther out 👌🏻

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Or maybe even a bigger off-road van setup! This first year is really about feeling out what we love doing the most and where we love doing it, but we are loving off-grid so much that it seems like a bigger setup is inevitable. ❤️

[@2-old-Forthischet]

I'll be "that guy". What is you end goal, if any? I'll tell you from my experience, that from age 70, everything went downhill really fast. I'm just trying to maintain at this point. Good luck on your new adventures!

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

That's a great question, and truthfully we're not sure yet. If we keep loving nomad life as much as we do now then we'll probably transition to larger and more comfortable travel setups as we get older, and also do lots of cruises and things like that. But if we get tired of traveling (or just physically can't do it as much), then we'll most likely get a pretty little place in the Eastern Sierra -- Bishop, Mammoth, or Tahoe -- and use that as a home base while hopefully still traveling occasionally. ❤️

[@2-old-Forthischet]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard if the later is a possibility, there's this thing called inflation. My first of three houses was a whopping $25K! Today, that house probably sells for over a million just due to the location and it's a really tiny place. Mammoth property is already outrageous. We looked for a summer place. Bishop has some really nice locations.

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

@@2-old-Forthischet You are right about that! Our hope is that our stock market investments will go up with inflation roughly as much as housing, though the massive housing inflation since 2020 definitely shows that that might not be the case.

[@2-old-Forthischet]

@@LiveHardxLoveHard on the plus side, Warren Buffet invests in stocks and not in real estate. I "played" the stock market when I was a lot younger and it is like legalized gambling. It is addicting. I have never regretted it.

[@douglaslitchfield6512]

You should do a video on your Burning Man experience

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

We actually thought about it, Douglas! But the camp we were in discouraged it and we didn't want to offend anyone. Really wish we could have showed you guys some of that craziness though! ❤️

[@RidiPwn]

wow, it takes courage to do this, wish you the best. if I was doing it, I would get a Ford Transit 2023 Cargo Van, and turn it into an apartment giving you privacy. The car has lots of flat roof, so I would put solar panels there, and upgrade Jackery to 2000 Also I would move my residency to New Hampshire NO Sales Tax and NO Income Tax, more money in your pocket

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

We have looked at the Transits, and agree that it is a very good option! The plan is to take a full year trying different things to see what modes we like best, but we've been enjoying off-grid so much so far that it's looking like some kind of van or truck camper build might ultimately be the right choice. ❤️

[@gavindowding]

Y’all need a tarp! The sun in the tent is brutal

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Haha no worries Gavin, we have a tarp! We just left it off for filming purposes, but definitely have it on most of the time for sun, wind, and morning dew protection! ❤️

[@FlewTheCoop]

1:06 would you mind sharing this location?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

We don't mind at all! That snippet at 1:06 was in Arches National Park, when we hiked to every arch in a single day. We labeled all the arches we visited so you can check that video to see the ones you might enjoy. That particular arch was in Devil's Garden -- a perfect place to see the sunrise! ❤️

[@dhpitcher]

So how does the house sitting work?

[@LiveHardxLoveHard]

Basically, when people we know who live in interesting places are going out of town, they let us know the dates and if we can make it work with our schedule we come live in their place, water their plants and collect their mail, and of course go do our adventures on the weekends. And then when we go, we leave them a super nice bottle of wine and/or tequila as a thank you for letting us stay! ❤️