The Secret Reason We Eat Meat by Dr Melanie Joy | LIVEKINDLY

[@myroyalty100]

3 yrs clean from eating animals, when looking back on it, it's very disturbing that we were raised to eat that way

[@Alpha-gk6hd]

It actually isnt, if you look at history. When farming or hunting, look at what animals they would eat. Meat used to be a treat, a treat because it was hard to hunt and kill. Farming exploited that but naturally harvesting them took longer and no doubt healthier. Each culture is different, people eat snakes, tarantulas, other insects, crocodiles etc. Each animal tastes different, some not being used to eat some animal could get grossed out or hate how it tastes, period. Another thing the video doesnt talk about is how pets like cats, dogs etc. we evolved alongside them being our buddies, so its like killing our friend. It is our culture that accepted these beings that made them acceptable. Proof that it is culture? Cat meat is sold in africa, south china in guansong and guanxi. Korea, japan, vietnam also consumed them but in recent years they decided liking them as pets and didnt want them to get eaten soooo In europe the same thing, during famine periods they were eaten too. Bears can rely on just vegetables when no meat is available or vice versa. We are also omnivores, your body can handle it. Pussy out if you want to. You should be talking about the co2 emissions and how laws should increase animal welfare conditions in farming. Farming uses a lot of water, crops and antibiotics. Talk about how animals that dont live happy actually affect meat quality which is also worse for us BUT NAHHH WE SHOULD BE EATING ALL ANIMALS RATHER THAN JUST 4. i am up for better conditions for animals in farms, not for their benefit but for my eating habits and health. The best type of diet is vegetables to get your minerals and cover your protein intake with lean meat to not have extreme amounts of fat and in fact meat has higher protein. Just dont eat processed crap. Vegan and vegetarians should at least get some b12 and iron supplements. Bottom line? We are omnivores

[@cidguy]

@@Alpha-gk6hd co2 emission? That's the least of my worries. 5G network is being turned on. The switch was flipped on in 2 major cities, Minneapolis and Chicago, on April 4th, 2019. The very first 5G Network up and running. All countries have a limit to the density of NM waves. Most countries keep it at 3 to 7 NM even though 0.5 NM shows health risks. Not America. Here, we've raised the bar with a limit set to 500 to 1000 NM. To top it off, insiders working for these network companies now have laws in place making it illegal to even bring up the issues at city hall meetings. This is getting bad.

[@Alpha-gk6hd]

Hi you literally told me you dont care about climate change

[@cidguy]

@@Alpha-gk6hd no, I said that I'm more worried about being microwaved than climate change. Once the majority of people are dead from this 5th generation 500 - 1000 NM wavelength monstrosity, climate change will fix itself.

[@Alpha-gk6hd]

Hi look, im not denying what you are saying but this is a completely different topic, im speaking about animals lol

[@zzzmmm5311]

I am vegetarian for a long time and I have recently become vegan when I learned about the cruelty at animal farms

[@veganvocalist4782]

zzz mmm yes 😊 we can not un know the truth or un see / witness any form of cruelty

[@Кенжетайұлы]

@@Unknown-ek8eq We don't need to eat animals in 2020 . We don't live in African jungle

[@berglastwagon5660]

@@Кенжетайұлы To say my thought in a couple of insults, you're the reason the gene pool requires a lifeguard. You're birth certificate is an apology from a condom factory. you're proof evolution can go in reverse. your IQ is lower than your shoe size. The only way you would ever get laid was if you crawled up a chicken's ass and waited. Some babies were dropped on their heads, you were thrown against a wall. can't say I blamed your parents. If your brain was donated to science, science would refund it.

[@berglastwagon5660]

To say my thought in a couple of insults, you're the reason the gene pool requires a lifeguard. You're birth certificate is an apology from a condom factory. you're proof evolution can go in reverse. your IQ is lower than your shoe size. The only way you would ever get laid was if you crawled up a chicken's ass and waited. Some babies were dropped on their heads, you were thrown against a wall. can't say I blamed your parents. If your brain was donated to science, science would refund it.

[@Кенжетайұлы]

@@berglastwagon5660 okay

[@lauriedurden6555]

I agree wholeheartedly. My eyes just opened last year and I haven’t eaten another dead animal since. It’s just Cruel.

[@Lilly-leaf]

Grow up Laurie.Indigenous tribes without access to supermarkets still hunt and fish in order to feed their families,are they cruel too?.

[@greenbluegrass]

@@Lilly-leaf We have an access to supermarkets and aren't in an indigenous tribe.

[@stefanisilva2493]

If they have no choice, no. The same for poor people. But if they ever got resources to have any kind of food on their lands, than, yes.

[@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094]

@@Lilly-leaf ROFLMAO why are you even bringing up indigenous people? Are you one? And even if you are one if you have access to computer and internet you obviously have access to plant based diet.

[@PatrickMcAsey]

@@Lilly-leaf But we aren't 'indigenous tribes'. We are - or so we like to think - humane and sophisticated. And humane and sophisticated people don't eat dead animals - or slaughter them.

[@kyracarlson8420]

“When eating animals is not a necessity-which is the case for many people in the world today, then eating them is a choice, and choices always stem from beliefs.”

[@fubar12345]

'choices always stem from beliefs' That's clearly false, choices also stem from evidence. I choose to wear a seatbelt because the evidence shows I'm less likely to die in a car crash if I do. Some people operate entirely on beliefs, they're usually religious or have ideologies that mirror religion. Others operate on evidence, they're usually drawn to science. Most people are somewhere in between.

[@WhiskeySavage0331]

Yea you are right. I eat meat due to beliefs. Believing that maple bacon is fucking delicious, that Porterhouses are a god send, and that buffalo chicken wings should be eaten every Wednesday.

[@internetsummoner]

@leonard Averitt lol

[@grzegorz16100]

@@WhiskeySavage0331 I believe I get fucking weak and crave meat like crazy if I don't eat any for a week or two. How about that?

[@quincybirwood2629]

@@fubar12345 Good catch, but one could say it's semantics. If one believes the evidence to be true, then all choices stem from beliefs. However, going back to the beginning, when eating animals IS a necessity, then eating them is NOT a choice. This is evidence that not all choices stem from beliefs. A choice could stem from a necessity, a belief or evidence. This is evidence that I thought about what you were saying. I believe it is true and it was necessary to leave a comment about it. ;-)

[@katerina6990]

I'm 4 months vegan and it's the one of the best choices I've ever done

[@paolarosichetti4056]

The damages appear after 5-6 years, so... Good luck

[@paolarosichetti4056]

@ the same thing that you all do on ex-vegan channels. To troll.

[@paolarosichetti4056]

@ the last time I ate meat was august 15th. The next time will be Xmas I think.

[@paolarosichetti4056]

@ I also have a life. You reply to me *braindamage* eating too much meat.. Why shuold I be polite to you?

[@paolarosichetti4056]

@ vegan? I am not

[@lilyp6949]

I am twelve yrs old and decided to go vegan half a year ago. My parents often try to convince me to eat "normally" but I can't even look eat meat. Most people are smiling at me like "this naive little child has no idea" when I tell that I'm vegan. It is an awful feeling when nobody takes you serious. I believe in my age it's worse than when you're older. However, no matter how old you are, most people will never change their minds and always find stupid "excuses" for why they are not vegan: "But animal products are just so delicious", "But I can't eat anything as a vegan",... I still do my best in convincing others to go vegan (Proud to say that two of my friends don't eat animal products anymore bc of me!). Edit 10 months later: yea im not vegan anymore bc it affected my health in a bad way (im still vegetarian tho) sorry but thanks for all your supportive comments

[@Karolina-dr8du]

K J I love that and I’m so proud of you💕

[@loveislove7605]

So proud! people are just blind.

[@b.porterv7418]

Hang in there, and eventually you’ll show them the right way. Many of them react like they do because they feel guilty and your choice to be vegan exposes that in themselves. They see their own moral ambiguity.

[@bee-uv8ge]

Wow your _sooo_ quirky!!1!1!!1!1!!1!!!!1!1!!!! UwU

[@lorijonas4829]

You are an awesome kid! 👍

[@CahillandDelene]

Absolutely excellent! G rated. My husband and I are vegan. We were vegetarian, and over the last few years have released eggs and dairy. We are 61, super healthy, no medication, no doctors. Just eating vegan and exercising. Thank you for this truly wonderful short video!

[@ayaanwarsan]

I'm 5 days Vegan old 😍🍏🍏 hoping for the best 😊

[@CloudSpirals]

@Lord Kek Scum bag comment!

[@an6350]

@Lord Kek how so

[@zs4269]

Enjoy your fist fulls of pills and vitamins

[@zs4269]

@@an6350 uh because you have to take man made drugs to survive genius

[@lunaschrtr1480]

“all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.“ ~ Animal Farm

[@senpaibryn6196]

Luna Schrtr pigs rise up

[@DerpBearGamingUK]

Vegans do the exact same thing, they'll kill billions of mice, rabbits, foxes and insects, but then complain about animal agriculture lol

[@driftadvocate1839]

chassam what a moot argument. It's always this to revert the true disruption in factory farming

[@DerpBearGamingUK]

@@driftadvocate1839 never once did I mention factory farming. Eating grass fed beef actually kills less animals per calorie than plants.

[@aspenfritz381]

@@DerpBearGamingUK the conditions in which the mice lived vs the cow or pig is not comparable. The animals in cages do not live a natural life at all compared to the mice. Besides meat is really unhealthy anyway. If you want to start talking numbers lets talk about many more people in the world we could feed with plants instead of animals.

[@destineyrodgers1733]

"Have you ever wondered why you haven't W O N D E R E D?"

[@anthonygarcia495]

destiney rodgers 😂😂👌 comedy

[@jordannielson8207]

destiney rodgers lol

[@slv68]

Brainwashing

[@fjibreel]

I am already vegan but if I were not then I would seriously consider it after watching this video.

[@kristik9396]

Same!

[@epicfly4319]

Yeah i wonder why some people aren't like us-.,-

[@laurentfaurite8660]

@@epicfly4319 Because they want to enjoy their life.

[@laurentfaurite8660]

@Tai Chi Tube And what do you know?

[@laurentfaurite8660]

@Tai Chi Tube I know that the meat I eat comes from animals that have been killed and I accept it.

[@magicpigeon_]

I stopped eating animals when I was 8 and went completely vegan when I was 11 now I rescue chickens and love them very much

[@PATITASCANSADAS]

My grandfather used to say I don’t eat meat I don’t even mistreat them I don’t define myself as a vegetarian or vegan. I only define myself as a real human being.

[@RoseTorn411]

I started questioning why humans drink cows milk at 24 years old. Little did I know I would be on the journey to Veganism. I'm 4 years full vegan and will not go back.

[@IEEteammateMATT1]

Rose Torn that’s what they all say but 90% of people who try veganism end up quitting

[@sour_pigeonist]

because milk at any age is healthy for you

[@RoseTorn411]

@@sour_pigeonist 🤢🤮

[@Master_Roach]

​@sour_pigeonist most people in the world are lactose intolerant, as in milk is very bad for their health. If you're not lactose intolerant milk still causes diabetes and heart disease.

[@reece1929]

I used to wonder about these things as a kid. But I was told "be quiet and eat your food" 😕

[@MeoMeii]

Same!

[@pavlekovacevic1676]

Well parents want best for their kids

[@thepatriarch4851]

Yumirow LeDivin I agree vegans are retarded

[@prizantsproducts4u]

Your wondering was a premonition and very correct. My daddy used to tell me a lot that red meat was killing us (but we all ate it anyway). I believee at that time, he was entering into his disease of CHF heart disease and was trying to figure it out (cause the docs did not know anything), and doing his own research. Sadly, he did not make it as in 1983 at the age of 58 he died of CHF disease. After that time in 1985 Dr. Campbell's information on the blue zones (and how long people live in other parts of the world) came out in the book the China Study. If only we knew then what we know now and that daddy was right, he might have lived a longer healthier life. All the information was in its infantcy back then. BTW I was diagnosed with CHF at age 52 in 2010 - I resigned myself to death like my father, but no, G-d sent me wisdom, knowledge and healing, and with the change of lifestyle and foods I eat, I have cured my CHF! Praise be to G-d!

[@ReizenCreations]

Qypsy Q Traveler aka Pamela Prizant-Brooks congratulations you played yourself

[@youknowme6578]

KINDNESS CAN'T BE DEBATED. THERE IS NO HUMANE WAY TO KILL.

[@mortenandersson9358]

Well, you or anyone else don't have to kill an animal to eat it.

[@youknowme6578]

Do you think your soul is exempt from the sins of the SLAUGHTERHOUSES? You can't be a getaway driver and think your sentence will be sweeter than others participating in the crime.

[@mortenandersson9358]

What sins? Do we have to kill off all carnivore animals in the wild? Are they sinning? Should we let the environment get ruined by invasive species? Can't we eat oysters or other non sentient things like manetees? Yes, what happens in slaugtherhoses as seen in Dominion must end.

[@youknowme6578]

Morten Andersson The sin is in the killing. You are not a lion so you don't not know their commandments. Why do it if you don't have too unless it's ONLY because you can? What gives you the right to kill/eat something that would other wise run away from your blade skillet and fork. Would you want a dog to eat one of your family members even though it has plenty bags of dog food? If you want to no if something is INHUMANE ask would you want it done to you or any of the ones you care about?

[@youknowme6578]

Morten Andersson all animals know what they are supposed to eat without human interactions but it's the so called humans that can't agree on nothing or figure out how to avoid the pills and doctor bills from eating stuff that makes them ill.

[@JR-oe6dw]

This was so good! more people need to see this

[@pappy9892]

Share

[@Twistrat]

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[@jeffxcc]

It's like a deep trance as if hypnotised. A better example stuck in the Matrix than you wake up and say " Oh $@#!" I am Vegan, because I woke up.

[@meatmoneymilkmonogamyequal5583]

you said it..............in a deep trance as if hypnotized. The next thing to wake up from is money. Unlimited economic growth, the monetary system and paying to live. Taking ques from nature there is no growth and there is no waste in nature our economic system must be based on the rules of nature, in terms of what the Earth can produce and absorb, not on what makes money. : )

[@Aviluv]

@@meatmoneymilkmonogamyequal5583 agreed

[@julmusten2488]

@Tai Chi Tube Satanism? youre still abit brainwashed bud.

[@grzegorz16100]

Lol 😂

[@Kuykendall_7557]

So you're saying that these people are hypnotizing people to become vegan?? Hmh good to know that people are trying to take control of peoples minds to become vegan. And y'all be saying that meat eaters control the weak minded 🤣🤣🤣

[@astral-xd5zi]

Going vegan was one of the best choices I ever made (I'm 14 btw so I have lots more to make lol) 💕

[@Alpha-gk6hd]

You had to mention you were 14, Weird flex but ok

[@GeeGnebAb]

Respect

[@greenbluegrass]

Well done for making that choice so young. I'm on the other end of the age spectrum and for many years I'd thought that being vegetarian was good enough. Until I saw the cruelty in the egg and dairy industries. Now vegan.

[@ConsciousBrosCommunity]

@@Alpha-gk6hd You had to comment a meaningless statement, weird flex but ok...

[@caribenariena3442]

Great job, dont let anyone tell you otherwise. Your lucky to be a young vegan, your body will thank you later.

[@annic7995]

I love animals, but not in my stomach!

[@mortenandersson9358]

So you could not eat an animal who died of natural causes? The ones who are destroying the land and sea?

[@PossumPoobah]

Morten Andersson invasive species? Animal populations that would burst out of control if humans stopped eating them?

[@mortenandersson9358]

www.nwf.org/Educational-Resources/Wildlife-Guide/Threats-to-Wildlife/Invasive-Species

[@mortenandersson9358]

www.barentswatch.no/en/articles/invasive-species/

[@ruthless527]

The Chatatas no, the problem is humans overbreeding them.

[@neginsarrami2457]

I'm a biologist. I specifically studied mammalian dentition. There are multiple points to address, when trying to determine the validity of a vegan diet for humans from a biological perspective. 1. The way your teeth are shaped say a lot about your diet, which I am sure you already know. Placental mammals, regardless of diet, have incisors, canines, premolars, and molars (with the exception of a few, like dolphins, which have monodont dentition, meaning all their teeth are of one variety). The canines myself and my cat have are incredibly different. She has sharp canines, and over years of evolution, cats have "lost" a lot of other teeth. They don't need them. They are true carnivores. Dogs are omnivores, like bears. Lots of flat teeth in the back, and sharpish canines to cut through any meat they might eat. And seriously, look at our teeth. We have canines, but they aren't sharp. Biologists use these shapes to make inferences about EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL'S DIET. It works on all of them, because your body is made to make sense with its lifestyle. Your body is designed perfectly to support your health. No, I don't think we are meant to eat meat. We have cognitive capacity that exceeds that of most other animals, so if we are stranded somewhere or need to do gruesome things to survive, we can and will. We have been capable of building tools to kill prey, when our own bodies couldn't physically do it. Could you imagine us without tools trying to hunt meat? Would you chase an animal down and bite into its back? Or would you strangle it to death? ... But we don't need to fight to survive like that anymore. Walk to the store and pick out whatever you want that is within your budget. Chances are, meat will be a less affordable way to consume calories and nutrients anyway. 2. Fibrous foods are a workout for your gut. It's not normal or healthy to be sluggish or overweight or frankly even that aggressive. You're beautiful and if value regardless of what you look like, but carnism is making a sacrifice to live a certain way, and that sacrifice is their clarity, agility, and lifespan. It's a statement about your self worth. 3. Dairy. Oh my god, where do I start. Women are used and produced for further production. I know lots of people who don't think twice about drinking milk, but fiercely defend their pets against being castrated. There is an inherent sexism involved with carnism. Biologically speaking, all placental mammals are birthed, and then fed a diet of milk. Rats breastfeed and so do whales. Whale milk is thick like cottage cheese. With time, the animal adapts to its new diet, and is weaned off the milk. Could you imagine a grown ass man following his mom around on the sidewalk asking for milk or grabbing at her? It's disgusting. I don't want any man to have ownership over my tits and their productive capacity, but isn't that how it all works? What do you mean by "I want to hear a biologist's take on this"? Is this just a defense? I honestly think the only reason I'm vegan now is for purely selfish reasons. The bias affects all of us. So if you're angry, you're not alone, but it's ok to be wrong. This is a mistake most of us have made too. I learned through an earth science class about the environmental benefits of cutting out meat, and so I went vegetarian. Only after this bias was removed, because I thought the choice was made by me, and my ethics weren't really in question, was it then easier to consider veganism. Had I still been a meat eater, idk if it would have been that easy to lower my defenses and accept that I was participating in something so awful.

[@neginsarrami2457]

BTW there are more points but I'm tired of typing an essay

[@innavision1920]

Thanks from a random vegan stranger, 5yrs down the line

[@mayathemumbler]

As a new vegan, #3 is something I’ve been pondering on. Sexism is rampant in all species. Veganism is the ultimate form of feminism. Thank you for writing this. ❤

[@duocsithuanchay8473]

Great! Dear Dr Melanie Joy, you are so devoted. Hope this precious trustable and informative video would reach to many people who are blessed. May God bless you and other people who have worked in this video.💕☘️🙏🌹🌈😍😇

[@carmadefries3729]

Healing my body and losing weight with a 98% whole plant, 100% vegan diet. Billions of reasons to switch to plants. 🌱💪🏽❤

[@Mk-7again]

This was a beautiful and full of love and sense, presentation. Thank You! ❤️

[@VeganV5912]

Mika . Eric is not a doctor. He is a scam. Scientific fact.

[@Leelee-nw2ej]

Damn, this was an amazing video.

[@eggsbenedict7711]

No

[@ZGLICH]

@@eggsbenedict7711 be quiet

[@eggsbenedict7711]

@@ZGLICH no, shut up

[@CelloHaus]

This is AMAZING. WHY are there not more views here.

[@blacklivity]

Because it's not for everybody. Who can receive let them receive it. For those who chose to eat meat, don't judge or crucify us. I eat meat by choice receiving it with thanksgiving. I really hate these exaggerated vegan arguments. Jesus ate fish and lamb and so will I.

[@chrismoore1372]

Because this will only pull in the weak minded, fit for cult life.

[@kevinnoone3782]

Willfull ignorance.

[@brucecampbell6578]

@@blacklivity God is life and no other. Some respect it and some don't. I have read that Plutarch and other early Christian fathers were vegetarian. The real truth is life is transmitted through the feminine. Baptism by man is pretension if not sacrilege.

[@ela8379]

blacklivity but the thing is that more people have to watch this video to actually find out if they are able to receive it. If noone even watches this video, how will they know???

[@bookmouse770]

I've been vegan for one year :-)

[@filippajak9081]

bookmouse770 that’s awesome as long as it’s healthy for you. I guess I would be lumped into vegetarian since the only animal product I use is goat’s milk from non-slaughtered goats. I think even if you eat meat you should do it mindfully, like only every so often and something that’s not a mammal like fish. Even though this might not be ethically right, it’s still better than eating meat everyday like most do. Even if everyone ate only ate meat once a week that would make a tremendous difference for our planet. People might not necessarily need to be vegan, but they should strive as much as possible towards that ideal, if not live it completely. It’s a gradual change.

[@musicals_rock]

In 4 you won't be

[@musicals_rock]

@@masonbright9716 they're all sick they just won't admit it

[@SaturatedCat]

Veganism is great, ever since I switched over, I've been going to the bathroom 9 times a day! Super regular bowel movements. What I like about the diet is that you can eat all you want and not gain weight (I eat about every half hour). Lately I've been struggling with a grey skin tone and some tooth cavities, though. Any tips for that?

[@musicals_rock]

@@SaturatedCat is this comment a joke?

[@jakeelam8381]

I can not put into words how much I love this video. So spot on. The only difference is our perception. It is cultural conditioning that says love one eat another. Because it's always been that way is not a legitimate reason to continue doing anything. Especially taking the lives of billions of conscious sentient beings. Amazing work.

[@francesaquachapman7631]

I changed over to a plant based diet two years ago after watching this! So happy to see it reappear in recommended feed. One of my best decisions ever!!

[@raeherseriallife1883]

Thank you for this amazing video :-) I am a vegan since 2014 and it's the best decision I have even taken.

[@itsalluphl]

I really appreciate the gentle yet powerful way you presented this. Particularly in speaking to the psychology of eating meat. Many people still believe we are biologically designed to eat meat and trying to convince them other wise falls on deaf ears. Then there's the argument of imposing on their civil liberties. You covered everything with the exception of one thing I believe also has a deleterious affect on society which is the psychology of producing meat and the mental health affects it must have on people in the trenches who perform these horrific acts on innocents daily. It's understandable that they do it because they have families to feed. But others seem to derive immense pleasure from torturing and killing. While those collecting the big salaries get to callously turn a blind eye.

[@stewartrutherford1436]

The thing that made me question myself eating meat was when the UK "mad cow decease "was discovered it opened my eyes to what "farm" animals were going through so they would end up on my dinner plate, it was like a switch being turned on and seeing the light for the first time. I was vegetarian for 28Yrs and have been Vegan for the last 2 Yrs. The Vegan choice should be taught at schools to show students there IS a choice.

[@presidentiallsuite]

FACTS 💯

[@justgivemethetruth]

Yeah, that's a valid point of view. The probability of getting mad cow is very low, and possibly if you have not gotten it by this time in your life you will not get it during the rest of your life.

[@nunyadamnbidness2531]

Apparently someone missed the far more common ecoli outbreaks on various greens.

[@ryangallagher6356]

They would never teach you have an option in schools because schools teach you to be part of the system not to break free from it. Not just carnism but all systems. And eccoli comes from cattle manure on the greens which can be grown in a sustainable manner without manure

[@obviouslymatt6452]

Stewart Rutherford it is taught at schools, at least in the UK

[@alorey24]

This is easily one of the BEST and most accurate videos I've witnessed as a vegan. So simply and easily broken down in such a compassionate way. Well done in helping spread the message of reality and truth. I have no hesitation in sharing this with my friends, acquaintances, family and colleagues. #Plantbased #Veganismontherise #Veganfortheennvironment #Veganfortheanimals #Veganforourhealth

[@paulrivera3252]

People have got to recognize that becoming a vegan is not just about the eating habits (the diet is called "plant based"). Becoming a vegan is a thought, a belief, a whole lifestyle.

[@heyalun]

No, there are dietary vegans that eat that way for mostly selfish reasons. Of course, you can't abstain from animal products for long without a mental/spiritual shift, but for us, that's not the driving force

[@SUWAYTUNIVERSAL]

Amazing presentation ! Thank you for your beautiful efforts to bring awareness and compassion to all who are willing to listen and see the truth. May we all be in Peace .. eternally ~

[@moanavine2401]

This is theeeee best explanation and illustrated video. Thank you for this wonderful research breakdown. I’m vegan and became one last month. It was a Sunday and that morning I remember I had just eaten two eggs and a sausage and I was watching something . A thought can to me “ hmm you love dogs, cats and hamsters sooo much but you feel that their life is more valuable than a cow , pig and chicken ? . Do you really need to eat meat ? Like honestly.” Then I stopped .... from that day on I cut everything out and I really didn’t understand why I felt it was necessary to eat meat because it’s not . Compassion is everything ...

[@nunyadamnbidness2531]

But fuck thos plants right? Evolved from the same cells but they arent like us m. They dont reproduce..oh wait, or eat..noh waith they do that to. They must enjoy being eaten. They never try to poison us or anything...oh wait they do.

[@toddmclain9053]

Awesome!!

[@kirsten1144]

Nunya Damn Bidness Plants feel no pain, they don’t have a social system nor emotions nor thoughts nor feelings nor anything like that. It’s kind of a stupid comment to make. And don’t give me that: But we don’t know if they can feel anything! bullshit because yeah, maybe. It’s not like there is absolutely nothing to support that argument and it’s not like that we do know that animals feel pain. And also, eating meat is so bad for the environment, contributing to climate change and much more and eating plants doesn’t.

[@nicoleslaughter7983]

This literally has zero research in it but okay... it’s a made up word with made up facts.

[@laurentfaurite8660]

@@gabagol1776 Have you ever tasted them?

[@iamkrisx]

I am not a vegan but I am reducing meat and considering veganism. However, If I lived in Siberia or in Cape Verde, veganism would not be easy to consider. I think that someone that even considers veganism is very lucky to have a choice.

[@starcatcher3691]

Most of the world can choose it now.

[@b.porterv7418]

That’s a good point, those who must kill to survive are morally excepted, but like Star Catcher said, the vast majority of the world is no longer in the position to kill to survive.

[@supermario69kraftgami23]

@B. Porter, actually, there are no possible circumstances in which a human would need to eat flesh to survive, as it does not fulfill any nutritional requirements. It’s like making a cat go vegan.

[@b.porterv7418]

@@supermario69kraftgami23 : I agree with you, but some populations might need the calories to survive. I know it's not a requirement for us to eat meat from a nutritional standpoint.

[@supermario69kraftgami23]

@B. Porter, there are always going to be plants or even water with traces of nutrients, I mean, how do the animals being raised obtain such nutrients?

[@slv68]

Other people see food, I see animal bodies! 😭

[@mortenandersson9358]

If you were starving you would eat it to.

[@sure_not_me_theo4928]

@@mortenandersson9358 too*

[@greenbluegrass]

​@@mortenandersson9358 But we aren't starving.

[@mortenandersson9358]

@@greenbluegrass You maybe not, but a big chunck of the earths popularion is. To ensure you get all the nutrition you need a omnivores diet is the winner by far.

[@stefanisilva2493]

Starving people need resources in general. Food, money,clean water etc. There is no sense in talking about veganism among the poor because ethical propositions presume choice - misery leaves no room for choices, the same for extreme situations. But most people in wealthy countries can choose what they eat so they have this duty.

[@SaturnStatic]

I think eating animals is fine what's not fine is how those "farms" treat animals. I usually only get meat from ACTUAL farms,I'm in the country and there's a local meat market where it comes from much more peaceful places (you can visit the farms) or hunted meat as well

[@aelipaeli5857]

But you don't need meat. So all of those deaths are unnecessary, only to satisfy your taste buds. Treating an animal well is not a justification for their unnecessary killing.

[@pavlekovacevic1676]

@@aelipaeli5857 well if u want to be healthy you need meat

[@silg7262]

@@aelipaeli5857 for me personally as an athlete I do need meat. It's simply not possible for me to get the calories and all the protein I need from plants. And don't you dare say that "I'm just doing it wrong" you know nothing about my nutrition. Or the things I've tried or the experts I've talked to about my health. You have no basis for saying the vegan diet works for everyone. It doesn't. Nothing works for everyone.

[@maddskillz9505]

Queen Of Memes I agree, I hunt some types of Dove and Pheasant and man is it good in a grilled cheese sandwich

[@maddskillz9505]

Pavle Kovacevic well...that’s not entirely true...I’m not a vegetarian and I disagree with that person attacking you but I gotta just say, that ain’t it chief

[@kaylagarcia7073]

I believe in vegan but the hard truth is after being vegan for long periods of time many fall Ill due to lack of knowledge of how to follow a plant based diet as well as it being hard get all the nutrition we need with lack of options. I went vegan for 2 years and feel behind in b12 and omegas and now I go back and forth. I eat mainly vegan and add meat every once in a while because it's honestly hard to stay healthy with so little options. It really makes you wonder what to believe or what to eat now days.

[@TheColourSplat]

Well I guess in that case it would be best to look up some professional advice and have some bloodwork done! There are also different recommendations for a plant based diet, based on your blood type. Being vegan is not at all as easy as eating omnivorous, since you do have to change your awareness about food and what is there that you need. I hope it'll work out for you!

[@courtneysmith211]

Kayla Garcia it is difficult when you lead a busy life, work full time, have dependents and you are surrounded by carnism. Especially when the good nutrient dense foods that are technically cheaper to produce are priced up to three times more expensive. A good vegan meal is essentially a fancy sometimes warm salad but we pay prices that make it look like gourmet. The problem isn’t the choice or lifestyle, it’s how difficult the lifestyle has been made to live. We have to do research and learn how to cook and grocery shop all over again and when you are a lone vegan in a family of carnivores that’s when the lifestyle is difficult but it is still worth it.

[@prizantsproducts4u]

Take b12, eat flax Chia seeds for omegas.

[@nataliaquintana839]

Well delivered message. I ate meat and dairy my whole life growing up. I had a real spiritual awakening that began to happen a few years ago finally in Jan 2018 I discovered the brutality and horrors of the meat & Dairy industry. I went vegan & never looked back. I haven’t been sick not even once. Despite being around countless people with Flu’s and colds working side by side with them. I eat raw organic fruits, vegetables, beans, carbs, juicing everyday & vegan protein shakes. I feel more alive & healthy than I ever have in my whole entire life. This couldn’t be more true when you become aware everything changes. I became vegan for the animals originally and what I’ve found is I’m contributing so much more with one choice. We have every reason to life this lifestyle & only 1 reason not to... it tastes good... but so does a lot of other foods. I also save $ now because jackfruit, beans, artichokes, cauliflower are all cheaper than slaughtered animal flesh and might I add the saying “ you are what you eat” rings truth to it. These animals die miserably, frightened, they die fighting for their lives 💔 those vibrations exist in the meat you buy at the market and digesting that you become that vibration. Everything is energy. Choose wisely. Eat life not death 🌱

[@JJJ2_00]

More people need to see this

[@Kuykendall_7557]

Let's get one thing straight, I ain't here to make fun of you for being vegan and I ain't here to change your mind about being vegan. But I e worked at animal farms such as dairy farms and there was no animal abuse. So I encourage you to go work at an animal farm yourself and determine animal aduse for yourself and not eat these lies that the media is feeding you

[@nataliaquintana839]

Gavin Kuykendall let’s get everything straight. I don’t care if you did. You wouldn’t be the first or the last. People can judge me whenever and however they so choose. I am not saying every single farm that has ever existed is that way I spoke about in my comment 2 YEARS ago. But today plenty and many , too many are. That’s just the facts. If things were the way they use to be none of us would be vegan. Understand that I understand time and evolution. What makes sense in its appropriate time. If my family were dying of starvation or there weren’t other options to eat for survival purposes I am positive I would do that wise thing and eat whatever protein or food source was available. But times change, things change, it’s life and it’s inevitable. That’s all that I meant and am saying. Our planet cannot sustain this current system.

[@samyakjain1602]

Absolutely amazing words bro, all great scientists practiced vegetarian diet

[@Kuykendall_7557]

@@samyakjain1602 And also Hitler, not just saying that to make an excuse for anything, just a fun little fact I wanted to share.

[@kyracarlson8420]

“The primary defence of carnism is denial. Carnism denies the truth by making it invisible. Denial=Invisibility. One way that carnism remains invisible is by remaining unnamed. So eating animals appears to be a given, not a choice.”

[@iesous444]

No it's a choice they are most delicious beings.

[@gwynedd1]

What a load of crap. Denial of what?

[@wipalo.the.artist]

Why is disagreeing considered denial? Can it not just be a disagreement? Christians don't deny Jewish faith, they disagree with it. Denial would be Christians saying that Jews don't exist contrary to the evidence

[@arnikolo2916]

@spirals 73 Just hope it doesn't become a law. As an outsider looking at American events, you guys have some emotionally charged crazies in powerful positions.

[@robertcaine9973]

This is one of the best presentations I have seen for educating everyone about the realities of the exploitation and murdering of innocent defenseless animals. I woke up from my comatose state over 30 years ago and became vegetarian; a few years later, I evolved to veganism (now over 24 years vegan). Thank you Dr. Joy for your most thoughtful, rational, and intelligent delivery of this needed humane education. On behalf of the animals, thank you for your compassion.

[@evasaxonne5668]

This is such a good video thank you so much for making it.

[@wild_harmony]

Brilliant video! People need to watch more videos like this one! So a big Thank You for creating awareness!

[@pappy9473]

Excellent. Straightforward. Inoffensive delivery of facts. Thank you. I'll share 😁👍

[@lookevilnumbers6665]

Remember when the dairy industry tried to copyright the word “milk”? They’re getting scaaaaarrrred 🥴. Also, just make it soy malk, or oat mulk, or almond melk.

[@TK-zc5wu]

Alas now they r attacking veggie burgers saying the public r too thick to know the difference

[@angelemmanuelperezmuniz1474]

And the egg industry is doing the same with mayonnaise.

[@angelemmanuelperezmuniz1474]

Hey we got a here misinformed carnist that doesn't realize that he got brainwashed by hundreds of years of corporative propaganda. I feel sorry for your situation. I hope there's a way you can get help about that.

[@TK-zc5wu]

@ybk lamar really? Can't you cook real food? That when u gave up cos sticking a steak on is soon much easier?

[@TK-zc5wu]

@ybk lamar really? I think it must be terrible u must feel so guilty , I hesitated to go full vegan till I saw the crunching up of day old male baby chickens ,as I was scared I couldn't hack it , but have found being vegan food wise really easy maybe cos I love spicy Indian type dishes , what I am finding hard is trying to give up oil and salt don't know if I will manage to last with that, I guess for some people it might be hard my sister hates beans and things , I thought I would find cheese hard, u didn't say your problem but hope one day you managed overcome

[@AMAETV]

Fantastic and fascinating video! Thank you for doing this work Dr. Joy

[@lheonairbheirsnthoria5989]

Year after year I come back to this video and it's just as heart breaking as the first time

[@dollysingh727]

And yes im vegan and happy now. I would love to see these animals free and not slaved.

[@kierstenclaire]

I love this. go vegan🌱🌱🌱🌱

[@CallipygianMarmoset]

I did. Then I came out of it tired and nutrient deprived. Would not recommend.

[@bee-uv8ge]

No

[@electario4159]

Nope fuck vegan y’all don’t eat honey or drink milk vegetarians are ok tho

[@PatrickMcAsey]

@@CallipygianMarmoset Well, you weren't trying hard enough, were you? And if you came out of it so quickly then you never were a real vegan. A real vegan would never condone the insane, ghastly cruelty of the animal-slaughtering industry.

[@RockieC1]

Electario why did you need to breast feed from a cow?

[@Yegorific]

First premise: I haven't wondered. Totally wrong, I've wondered. Chickens reproduce much faster than swans, and are easier to keep as live stock. Cows are not vermin, they don't steel our grain, and they don't defecate on our food. Also, their waste is much less toxic to us than that of mice. Not to mention, it takes a lot of mice to get enough muscle tissue to make a burger, while a single cow makes many many burgers. But also, we actually do eat mice, or at least we used to: the Edible Dormouse was a popular protein choice in Roman times. Cow's produce more milk per animal that pigs. Also, because pigs were traditionally kept only until winter, and lived semi-feral lives, they could be dangerous to handle. Pigs multiply quickly, eat almost anything, and can survive in utter filth. They basically ate our kitchen scraps and food waste, and we recovered those calories when we slaughtered them in late fall. If you did keep a pig into the winter, you had to find a way to feed it in a season when feeding yourself might be difficult. Being historically semi-feral, pigs sometimes attacked other animals, or humans the perceived as weak: children, wounded or sick individuals, and drunks. So it's much more dangerous to try to milk a pig than a cow, and the amount of milk you get is going to be very small. We do also milk goats and sheep, in industrial volumes, and there are cultures that prize horse milk, and reindeer milk. Horse meat and venison are also popular traditional protein choices, including in Europe where both animals have been eaten for centuries. There are cultures that eat dogs. Most of us don't, because we've realized that dogs are much more useful alive than as meat. The same goes for cats, though they were raised for fur in the middle ages. There are specific, and usually very practical reasons why we eat certain animals, but not others. It's not a weird conspiracy, it's typically just economics.

[@lookevilnumbers6665]

Ive been vegan since i was 8, and this is a great video. I completely agree ☺️

[@lilmisspeace]

Well done! My son was 4yo when I saw a cow and said (without really thinking), "that's where your meat comes from". He was so upset, he instantly replied, "I don't want to eat the cows; I want to love them!" So we stopped eating animal products and that was getting close to a year ago now!!

[@danijelperkic5037]

@pepe yep thats true

[@noelbeltran2651]

So grateful for this video! I appreciate you and the team who created this. My gratitude goes to all of you!

[@iwnunn7999]

In my teens, before I knew anything about veganism, I had trouble eating any meat on a bone. It made me think of the animal. So, I would only eat it if it came in a patty. As long as it didn't resemble the animal, I was good. Eventually I woke up. I've been plant based for 5 yrs now with my health better and my conscience clear.

[@ДавидЛомакин-ф7ю]

I was a vegan for a year then decided to be a vegetarian for another 2 years. Everything was good, but now I don’t feel that strength I had before. More and more I’m thinking if I should eat meat but after 3 years I’m even scared to do that. I don’t know what to do of course I’m against killing animals, but all people around me who were vegetarians became eating meat again because they had problems with their health and eating meat back helped them. And now I’m just lost and don’t know what to do

[@KFG721]

Thinking of it as “dead” pushed me over the edge too...🤢

[@npcblacksmith5739]

Life demands death.

[@KFG721]

Karoline Skauen - yep. Can not get that out of my head.

[@Elennar29]

Sounds like an eating disorder

[@dominichess5273]

It's alive if it's raw

[@averygaitens.]

I don’t see why people are disgusted by it Now that we’ve said it’s dead, I’ve never willingly eaten meat, and I never will, but just thinking something dead, as dead grosses you out?! What the heck!? I don’t get it.... it really hurts me.. not to mention people think slaughter is fine too, but they don’t like the word.

[@Marcelsaavedra82]

This is brilliant. Everyone should have acess tô this material.

[@LowEntropy1]

Thank you for making this video and thank you for putting decades of research into this topic. I recently watched "Earthlings" and it gave me a rude awakening. After watching that documentary, I could not believe we would perpetuate a vicious cycle. I googled "why do we eat meat" and I came across your video. I totally resonate with your ideas and to take it one step further, its materialism that breeds "carnism." We dont feel connected to each other, we believe we are all separate and isolated from one another. Materialism stems from our understanding of the nature of reality. This understanding is shifting and we are beginning to realize that this world is not made of matter, it's made of data and information, consciousness. We are connected through consciousness. once we see that we are all connected, we will end Carnism, along with many other destructive belief systems.

[@pixelpotato4874]

I have been a Vegan for 3 years now,the only regret is I didn't change earlier in my life...the meat dairy egg poultry and seafood industry need to cease,not only for the health of humans but the millions of precious lives these greedy corporations take!!!@#÷%EN GRUBS!!!

[@kaitlyn_resonant_wizard_6867]

so absolutely true, trying to explain this to my family is absolutely pointless. their not ready for a paradigm shift I suppose :( but we all have our own paths to walk and all have to find our own way.

[@nikkimckay1270]

Someone needs to broadcast this to the entire world! ❤️✋🏼🌎

[@nothinmulch]

Arguments presented in this video, in no particular order (feel free to add): Different cultures eat some animals and not others, often seeing those other cultures who do as obscene or immoral. Therefore no animal should be eaten. Another arguement is that people do not see animals being slaughtered, asserts that if we did, we would not want to eat them. Asserts that eating meat and animal products are unhealthy, and that only plant based diets are healthy. Asserts that animals are treated poorly, so we should not eat them. Also asserts that even if they were treated well, it would be wrong. Asserts that killing animals is wrong because it requires violence. Asserts that because animals have certain levels of intelligence and awareness, so we should not eat them. Asserts that people eat meat today, not on personal choice, but because we were indoctrinated into the belief that meat is necessary and normal. Lots of animals are slaughtered everyday, therefore we should not eat them. I would encourage everyone here to examine these arguments to see if they are factually correct and logical. I'm not telling you what to believe, I'm telling you to be reasonable.

[@pedrobatista7975]

Man, you know that when you are nutrient deprived, like in a vegan diet, you enter in a kinda of fight or flight state and your reason starts to go to shit., right? Every time I tryed to argue with a vegan I encountered a horde of malnourished overagressive pricks. It's not worth it!

[@HeraldandDonut]

Pedro Batista There has been plenty of research on the vegan diet and it has proven to be perfectly healthy as long as youre not only eating vegan junk food or like purely fruit diet obviously. We’re not malnourished we’re just worried about our health the environment and animals 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@justinhunt8105]

Glad someone can be objective and logical on this topic instead of defending opinion as fact for either side

[@ela8379]

ybk lamar talking to meat eaters can also be like talking to a wall... i think the Problem is that every side is so dedicated to their opinion that its hard for both of us to open up to the other ones opinions. But i feel like if we would stop calling each other stupid and uneducated and unreasonable and would actually try to listen to each other, we would actually be able, maybe not to change our opinions, but to at least have open discussions and conversations which then maybe will lead to a change...

[@GabrielSilva-xj4rm]

Honestly and seriously, these are all logic jumps.

[@nmiarpolanko7948]

I am vegan for 2 and half years vegetarian for over 25 years. With excellent health. No sickness no medications. I see a lot of meat eaters in my job over weight with a lot of Heath issues. This people are very young and very sick taking a lot of medications and going to different medical procedures. Meat and sugars are very addictive they cannot go a day without consuming meats. All this people are killing themselves. I try to talked to them about how cruel it is killing animals and how un healthy is to consume them but they just addicted to. Thank you for your video, I have shared with them. ❤️

[@mortenandersson9358]

No one in my family has health issues and we eat meat.

[@jeffkernan3647]

Great video. I will show this to my children to explain why I haven't eaten meat in 5 years.

[@NorticFox]

This kinda falls apart when only a hundred years ago most animals were killed by the person eating it, not a factory. Hell outside of the first world they still do

[@renee3461]

To me it's different because there were a lot fewer choices of foods to eat. In years past or in third world countries where they don't have easy access to grocery stores, I think eating meat is more necessary and therefore justifiable. I don't imagine that most people enjoy killing animals, but it's probably easier to handle when you know that it's necessary for your survival.

[@yvrelna]

It still kinda falls apart in modern times, when most vegans would be malnutritioned unless they follow very specific diets. In many parts of the world, it's often impossible to satisfy a healthy dietary requirement if they didn't consume exotic plants imported from faraway lands or use nutritional supplements. There are many vegans who are just as unhealthy as meat eaters.

[@happygimp0]

@yvrelna I once believed the same, that veganism is hard to do and that it is likely to get health problems. But after i did my research, reading scientific papers, listen to experts, listen to people who promoted meat, i came to the conclusion that the opposite is true. Most people don't get enough fiber (only about 3% get enough), potassium (only about 3%), vitamin E (only about 7%), magnesium and vitamin A [1]. All this nutrients are more common in plants than in meat. In addition to the rules to eat healthy as a omnivore (avoid processed foods, eat different foods, eat nuts, eat flaxseeds, ...), a healthy vegan should also this simple rules: Eat enough (calories), supplement B12 (very important), use salt with iodine. But vegans can ignore other rules that omnivore should care if they want to be healthy: Don't eat too many calories, eating enough plants, don't consume too much cholesterol, don't consume animal protein, don't consume too much fish (heavy metal, PCBs, ...). Even as a omnivore, you should check or supplement B12, 39% of omnivores have low or too low levels of B12 [2]. Of course, you can be unhealthy as a vegan. Fake meat, chips, beer, oil and ores are all vegan but not healthy. And there are many vegans who do not supplement B12 (sadly), which is dangerous [3]. [1] www.ars.usda.gov/ARSUserFiles/80400530/pdf/0102/usualintaketables2001-02.pdf [2] www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2000/b12-deficiency-may-be-more-widespread-than-thought/ [3] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26502280

[@happygimp0]

@ARTEMIS HAYDEN It is true that plants do not have preformed vitamin A: Retinoic acid, retinol and retinal. But there is enough Vitamin A precursors to produce all the other forms of vitamin A out of it. 100g carrots has more vitamin A than a normal person needs on a single day [1]. Even with a bad conversion of beta-carrotine to other forms of vitamin A, it is very easy to get enough. That most people don't get the recommended amount of vitamin A just shows how little plants people eat. The biggest factor for the conversion rate is the ammount of vitamin A in the diet [2], the human body adjust the conversion rate to the ammount needed. Because of that, there is no risk in getting to much retinoic acid, retinol or retinal with eating vegetables. In the other hand, 100g beef liver contains 7739mcg [1] preformed vitamin A, which is 2.5 times more than the tolerable upper intake of 3000 mcg [3]. [1] ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminA-HealthProfessional/#h3 [2] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2855261/ [3] www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/vitamins/vitamin-a/

[@eulalia3446]

The secret reason I eat meat is that I became severely anaemic and deficient in Vitamin A after some years on a (varied, home cooked, whole foods, calorie adequate) plant based diet. My guts also were severely damaged by plant foods. Meat has healed me.

[@polibm6510]

But every vegan would say to you, that veganism is not about health... So why did you await to be healthy on the vegan diet?

[@eulalia3446]

@@polibm6510 I was not vegan but plant based. I believed the lies promulgated by T Colin Campbell and others that a plant based diet is nutritionally adequate and in fact ideal for humans.

[@yes24__]

i’ve been vegan for 2 years! i think everyone should watch this. it’s crazy to think that it’s normal to eat dead animals. like it boggles my mind...

[@hl6753]

Why don’t u feel crazy to eat dead plants? There are evidence that plants can feel pain. Btw, why do vegan kill pigs and cows to feed their cats and dogs?

@@hl6753 plants cannot feel pain . They don't have pain receptors or brain or central nervous system . Why would an organism which cannot engage in a fight or flight movement feel pain ? (Fight or flight movement means if a lion is hunting a deer the deer has two options , either stand there and fight or run away . ) but plants can't move and can't defend either . And even if they do , it's still one more reason to go vegan . Because 60% of plant food produced is fed to animals in order to use and kill them . So really care about plants ? Go vegan

[@hl6753]

@ plants can feel pain，there are scientific evidences. Plants can scream when they get hurt. U just don’t know. Vegans only care about their selves, hypocritical

[@hl6753]

@ I think you should live in the forest rather than cities. U don’t deserve using any industrial products. If u really care, millions of species extinct during the urbanism and industrial revolution. Pig, cows, chickens won’t extinct man

[@hl6753]

@ if u really care about nature and animals, stop using internet, stop using smart phones ,stop driving cars. U should go against all the industrial product. Plz stop being hypocritical.

[@Manvir.]

THIS should be taught and shown in schools, rather than irrelevant knowledge.

[@peterv.5086]

Manvir Definitely agree 100%!

[@sour_pigeonist]

bruh, no information in school is irrelevant. Information in school is to prepare you for your future so you don't end up becoming broke and homeless. Schools are not for learning this stuff, schools are for your future, not for your bodies health

[@sour_pigeonist]

and schools shouldnt be bringing in stupid idealogies like this, or any idealogy like this at all

[@drryanincemd]

Very nice video very well put together, great work ! 👍🏼👍🏼

[@le3233]

Well i slaughter my own chickens for meat, for dairy and beef I go to my local farmer. I am fully aware that another organism died for my meal, but that’s why I appreciate my meat and eat it only once or twice a week

[@Prancer1231]

But you don't need to eat any at all so why participate in such horrific cruelty?

[@Shindai]

Essay time to the people who are so concerned about the suffering of vegetables! basic biology regarding the lack of sentience and nervous system aside, a) what do you suggest? Animals show evidence of fear, suffering, love, family, community and friendship, pleasure, all the things we consider defining characteristics of humans. To solve that problem is simple - stop killing and exploiting them. Plants meanwhile yes are alive, but show no signs of sentience or pain, have no nerve endings, don't reproduce by themselves and other criteria for sentience. But what's the solution, stop eating plants? And b) if you're so concerned about plant life, look at how much grain etc is fed to animals. 16lbs of grain for 1lb of meat, is a statistic I've seen. There's also an impending water crisis, and to feed a cow long enough for it to become a burger takes tens of thousands of gallons of water. Consumption of plants is sustainable, shows no obvious signs of suffering (though yes, animals can get caught up in harvesting tools etc, it's not perfect, but it's a lot less disgusting to accidentally kill a few hundred things a year than deliberately torture and kill tens of billions), can be quickly replaced, and can provide all the nutrition we need almost. consumption of animals causes untold suffering, is absolutely annihilating the environment, which supports life for plants as well as people and other animals, consumes way more plants than humans living a plant-based diet would, and I can't imagine it doesn't cause immense psychological (not to mention spiritual, if you're into that) harm to the people who work in that line... Go vegan, don't go vegan, that choice is yours. But I saw a few comments suggesting plants feel pain and felt compelled to respond. Veganism is about doing the least harm as practicable. If we truly wanted to do no harm we'd all kill ourselves as soon as we realised what was going on, but like the animals, most of us want to live. But given that it's usually people who eat meat that show such concern for plants' wellbeing, it's hard to take your surge of compassion seriously, when plants show no measurable suffering, but animals absolutely do, but you don't seem troubled by it :/ It could well be that plants suffer TWICE as much as animals, but since we don't know that currently, why don't we work with what we DO know, and try to lessen the suffering we KNOW is happening? I hope you've not found this judgemental, I don't mean it to be preachy or provocative, I was a meat eater for 30 years, I understand it's the done thing and there's a lot of conditioning and habit to break through. I do hope it's helped explain the reasoning I've seen shared by a lot of vegans though.

[@TK-zc5wu]

Loved yr argument just wish I could remember it all next time someone says to me but don't plants feel pain!

[@nemesisnemesis4334]

Let's make a deal what if we dont kill any species in this planet that need oxigen to survive?

[@TK-zc5wu]

@@nemesisnemesis4334 what then u kill all the fish? If the sea dies the planet dies the only way to save the planet is to not eat meat and what was once grown to feed those animals a lot less land and water would b used to grow food then u tackle other things

[@nemesisnemesis4334]

@@TK-zc5wu so you dont want to make a deal if you dont want to stop eating plants i won't stop eating animals how's that?

[@TK-zc5wu]

@@nemesisnemesis4334 well looks like u r just looking for a excuse to ease yr conscience ,so long as the evidence is that plants don't feel the same emotional or physical pain like animals do I will eat them

[@McLexiChannel]

Lately I've been so mentally cloudy it's becoming dangerous and my family has even expressed concern. On top of that I've been extremely exhausted for no reason and sluggish. It's gotten to the point where I feel like im on the outside watching my body move. I'm ready to go vegan. I hate feeling like this I want to have an abundance of energy. I want to be mentally clear and happy

[@nymphaeales9149]

So I'm not well versed in veganism and I have a few questions. I do understand the emotions the thought of eating animal products invokes, trust me. My main question is, if people were to stop using animal products, what would happen to the animals? It's a sad reality, but many many people don't care much for the welfare of animals. There would be an abundance of animals. Would the animals be set free? Would they be cared for on wildlife reserves? Here where I live, there's a protected species of deer, the red deer. Currently there's a severe overpopulation issue, and because of that there have been rangers sent out to cull the population. Would this have to happen? Would the populations of animals have to be culled, or would it be let run rampant. I think that's my main concern. Also, would the laboratory testing of animals be prohibited or just strictly regulated. Since there isn't really a way for animals to consent, would laws or codes of conduct be introduced to somehow understand if an animal is consenting. If the testing of lab animals was the cease completely, would testing then resume on humans, like convicts. There's a lot I don't understand about ethical veganism, and I'd really like someone to explain. Thank you!

[@konstanceleigh]

Saffron, I think everyone should hold on to their seats because I feel there is a sea change coming! Once again coming out of the Dark Ages into an age of enlightenment, where it is understood beautiful sentient beings belong to themselves. Those of us on the front lines have always cared for the animals suffering because of people's ignorance and mistreatment. So, rest assured, whatever the challenges the world will be blessed! PEACE!🕊

[@billyboy7089]

Hey, I'll try to be as concise as possible. There would not be an abundance of animals, as the world would not adopt a vegan lifestyle over night. As demand for meat decreases, so will the breeding of such.. as it would not be a viable business model. I'm personally not sure on population control as it's not an issue where I am. However, I'm sure there would be better ways of controlling it in the future that would be more humane. It's a bit of a grey area, but doesn't take away from the concept of reducing harm by not consuming animal products. Lastly, with animal testing.. it's not as reliable as it generally perceived. With recent technological advancements, computerized methods have been increasingly succession as it can relate to components within human anatomy rather than other rodents for example.. not saying it's there completely yet, but it's getting closer and closer. I personally oppose animal testing for cosmetics and general items.. with an exception to meaningful drugs. This is because I see it as necessary for human survival. I hope this comment helps, keep looking into it and you'll naturally end up following logic!

[@happygimp0]

Great questions. I can't give you a complete answer. It is more likely that people buy slowly less and less animal products before we make animal abuse completely illegal. In that time, people buy less animal products => shops sell less / sell it with lower prices => farmers make less money with animal products => farmers will breed less animals / switching to more plant production. The more people go vegan / more plant based, the less animals are breed. Even when everyone goes vegan overnight, we would not end up with more animals. Many farm animals can not have sex because they are breed to a point where they can only reproduce with the help from humans. However, there is no place to set all, or even most, farm animals free. We have to kill them . The only difference to today would be, that no new farm animals are breed into existence. Even if we do not kill them, after about 7 years, most chickens would die because of of age. Most farm animals are chickens. To the animal testing. There is a lot of animal testing we do not really need and many results are not publicly available. In a vegan world, we would at least reduce the animal testing to a minimum and obligate to make all results of animal tests public for free. But i do not know if we could stop all animal testing. Veganism is not about not harming animals at all, veganism is about doing the least amount of harm as practically possible. "Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism Hope this helps.

[@WastedContender]

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[@FlorinGN]

ggzh a most chicken would die in weeks. They are not bred for longevity, if they are not sacrificed, they die from hormonal issues because they are designed to grow so fast.

[@scorpiovegan5887]

Saw this video way back , it was the push i needed to go vegan! I now share it whenever people ask for vegan information!!! Vegan 3 years now.

[@deannahoney6562]

Scorpio vegan too! ♥

[@juliewake4585]

Brilliant stuff. Carnism is the way we should talk about it, all the time. If someone asks me why I’m a vegan I’ll say “why are you a carnist?”

[@ukulin8525]

Me vegan bodybuilder (happy to go vegan), never tell me i don't get my nutrients that i need

[@ukulin8525]

@keto cycler "... in order to only live." Whaaaaat ? I have never heard of that when I have read the definition of veganism. Maybe you have the wrong definition. Can you explain to me please how does eating more calories "ruin" veganism 😆? I still cause far less animal deaths than most non-vegans that are not even bodybuilders. My way of eating still supports far more environmentally friendly production of food. I still will have lower risk cardiovascular disease than other bodybuilders. I reaaaally don't get what are talking about. I am not ruining anything by being bodybuilder.

[@jewelflanigan135]

Thank you for giving this information to us❣️

[@gaillewis5472]

Yesterday, I had to explain to a colleague that chicken and pork are meat. He had no idea that humans make their own cholesterol and that ingesting animal products raises our cholesterol to unhealthy levels. His ignorance was scary.

[@sour_pigeonist]

You just have to be careful on which meats you eat, as there is meat that raises cholesterol, and others that don't as much

[@Nour-mx3uu]

I stopped eating meat bc it slowly began to feel weird to me, afterwards i looked into what happens to the animals and was horrified. I've been vegan ever since. 8 months and counting

[@susannlandes2467]

I_am vegan since 1995

[@sour_pigeonist]

Who said you were going to die from going vegan?

[@Craigjackson12]

This makes so much sense,how is it that people are so blind to this?! Thank you for the wonderful video❤🙏

[@kyracarlson8420]

We believe in compassion, justice and truth. The carnism system is built on us not caring, and deception. Be aware and make your own choice.

[@Prancer1231]

Carnism is barbarianism.

[@awarmlite]

I find the concept that people eat meat and don't realize it comes from an animal horrific. I eat meat, and have no intention of stopping, but I know what I'm eating. Down to the boiled horse hoofs in gummies. People need to be more in touch with food production in general.

[@joelsherrer8784]

Would not hurt if vegans stopped assuming that the food they eat causes no harm. If any of those veggies you eat a ton of come from a country with little to no regulations, there’s a good chance a person is suffering so you can eat!

[@fleur1492]

Joel Sherrer usually vegans are very aware of what they eat because they have to educate themselves on food in order not to develop any deficiencies. Apart from that, a plant based diet does cause a lot less harm than a meat based one. Simply because animals need to be fed plants as well, just that they need a lot more than humans. So by eating meat you will use the same resources as a vegan just a lot more of them, while also eating a dead animal (that has probably suffered, depending on where the meat is bought). If you eat meat, that’s absolutely fine but it’s still important to know what it entails.

[@kaiceecrane3884]

At least the meat is dead when you eat it, plants are alive and feel pain

[@taylora978]

awarmlight enjoy your clogged arteries, high cholesterol and cancer :)

[@Emily-mn5xy]

Honestly this was an amazing video, you explain it very well

[@marymememe1317]

The secret is we are omnivore but don't tell to anyone because they will say its a psychological thing 🤫 next time try to feed a baby while gowing up only vegetables no food from animal products.🤔 And that's how you lost custody of your child. Manutrition. But don't worry it's only a psychological thing explain it to the court.😊

[@onezero3218]

I have tried veganism and frutarianism for a short period - it was far from a psychological feeling, especially the frutarian lifestyle which the vegans praise - I felt awful nearly all the time and since I don't have strong will I decided that I am unworthy and stopped it, I still believed it though and had plans to adopt it some day until recently when numerous horrific videos of former vegans popped up.

[@swissladydriver8980]

It's no secret, it tastes good and it's good for me.

[@llamalifesmatters3828]

I love lamb

[@thepinoz]

@@llamalifesmatters3828 cool story bro

[@swissladydriver8980]

@@llamalifesmatters3828 My son ate a large amount of Cevapcici from lamb and Beef last night and when he was done, he said, "These are just sooo good".

[@llamalifesmatters3828]

@@swissladydriver8980 meat is always delicious and im thankful to god that he provided us the right food for us all

[@lilyrose3450]

Swiss Lady Driver lol. It’s not good for you buddy. I can provide medical documentation if you’d like.

[@Denkono]

Very objective and says how things are, no matter who you are and what you eat... 💯% da truth

[@inesrecio.]

Beautifully said and explained! Vegan without looking back 💚

[@techiechuckles]

Fantastic video! Growing up, animal meat was my diet since my Mom worked in the deli and step father a meat cutter. I've been vegetarian for 5 years, living at New Vrindaban cow sanctuary, working towards a vegan diet. My families health is failing and they are blind when it comes to their diet. Thank you!

[@yummy.crayon]

Stacey Almeda Eckstein how auspicious. take care of the cows, Hare Krishna

[@techiechuckles]

@@yummy.crayon Hare Krsna 🕉

[@andretaquelim9168]

Fantastic video!!! Raise your awareness, improve your vibration! Change the world one at a time!!!

[@MrRobmac1984]

I believe that it's the seasoning that's being put on the meat the flavor because u won't eat meat without flavor

[@soulcats3551]

i’m not sure i could ever go completely vegetarian or vegan, but i know i can support humane treatment of animals at the very least and not eat as much meat. thanks for spreading such a good message :)

[@Emily-tj3ly]

soulcats your still paying for those animals to die just to enjoy a burger

[@astrius4125]

"I'm not sure i could ever go..." means "I'm not even willing to put on the effort to even try" and you know it.

[@retracted3383]

Emily Morrissey your farmer still has to take the homes of animals to plant his crops and kills them so they don’t eat his produce . It’s the circle of life everything dies so others can live vise versa it’s just a matter of finding a balance so one doesn’t wipe out the other .

[@Emily-tj3ly]

Jebron Lames More land is being used to feed those animals and have room for them then plant food for us. Most of the land that is wasted on harvesting animals can be used to harvest plant based food. Your argument that the farmer is going to have to kill the animal anyway to make room for the plants is weak because an extreme amount of land is already used to feed those animals and then kill them in the end anyways. The meat industry is HUDGE at least this way if we have natural plant farms their won’t be the toxins from the meat farms that are affecting the planet pollution or global warming. Some animals might not be able to live on those plant farms but we don’t just kill them they migrate to a better home or adapt to the plant based farm you don’t just straight up kill them. Their is also a thing called vertical farms where it’s basically a really tall garden that takes up barely any land but produce about the same as a normal farm and just goes up.

[@retracted3383]

Emily Morrissey Emily Morrissey no my argument isn’t weak . my point is regardless of the process of getting your food animals are harmed . You want meat ok well that animal is going to get slaughtered. You want plants? ok then understand your farmer is still contributing to habitat loss which affects global warming and they also have to kill animals that try to eat there crops. Farmers themselves said they have to protect their crops from animals that eat them which means they have to kill them .If not then they won’t have anything to produce. Those same trucks that ship meat also ship the produce (plants) your farmer grows. So no offense but get off your high horse. No matter how you look at it unless you grow your own food or raise your own animals/go hunting yourself YOURE adding to global warming and also you have to understand not everyone shares the same morals/beliefs on animals vegans do. Not everyone puts animals on a pedestal, that same dog you call your best friend in another country is considered a delicacy.

[@johnnollet3520]

Great video!! Clear and simple. Just listen!!

[@captainharlock2280]

i thought this was gonna be like a scientific explanation of why our bodies need meat

[@aniangwei]

all bunch of bs from this half a century old

[@matze8000]

Why would you even ask a psychologist about the neccessity of animal products in our diet?????? Well, I get it: when even the doctors go vegan, people are searching for the few who are still intelligent

[@albertoortega8510]

hundreds of tears There is none. 😂

[@captainharlock2280]

@@albertoortega8510 humans are omnivores tho

[@albertoortega8510]

hundreds of tears Humans have the ability to kill, does that mean we should? 🤔

[@whateveryouliketocallme7092]

Great. Now i want to see the same video, but from a biologist.

[@sylvomordor9338]

I havent finished my biology studies but I want to do a RE video to this...

[@111Dagmar888]

@@sylvomordor9338 go for it once you're ready ;-)

[@jimt2430]

Same in what sense?

[@jayna4749]

Which parts do you want a biologist to address?

[@ptbarter1404]

Jayna Johns I’m guessing the original commentor is referring to how it’s difficult to be on a vegan diet without having unhealthily low levels of iron because the iron we get from veggies isn’t easily digested like iron from meat

[@wolfwiber2788]

Thank you Dr Joy, an insightful and intelligent perspective.

[@SaBoTeUr2001]

Here in Asia, all animals are edible. Not picky when there's nothing else around to eat. When a new animal is discovered, first thing we think of is, "Hmm, how does it taste?"

[@nunyadamnbidness2531]

This is why you are smarter than these idiot yuppies

[@lauracarre5207]

Disgusting

[@savannahphillips643]

I really don’t see a problem raising and killing an animal as long as that life was respected and killed humanely. Respecting a life then feeding your family while not wasting anything. I can not agree with factory killings or torture, captivity etc but don’t make me feel bad for raising my own chickens and giving them a life they wouldn’t have otherwise then feeding my family. We wouldn’t blink an eye over a lion killing a gazelle right in front of her young. Yet because us humans have the ability to have compassion means we should stop doing something natural. Maybe I’m ignorant but isn’t the only reason we evolved because of meat and fish consumption specifically cooked meat? Wouldn’t we be still ape like if we still shared the same diet? Even then apes eat insects..which correct me if I’m wrong is still a living thing? Why is a pig more important than a grub then? People need to learn a balance and not to be greedy. We need to stop mass murder of animals for our own greediness and learn that a vegetable based diet is important while there’s nothing wrong with a good chicken dinner when you worked for it and that life has been respected and thanked. Guilt free.

[@birgitashour7817]

The best comment i've seen so far. Nowadays a lot of food gets wasted. Growing happy healthy animals, and not "waste" the energy put there, would be most rational. I was grown up in farm with cows, chicken and pigs. We almost never ate chicken, they were just for eggs, but if too many male chicks came..what should we do??? One has to stay, others need to go, there is one king only. And it ended up in soup. I cant kill an animal by myself, but seeing it as a child, i take it as part of life. When cow gives birth and we get a bull, he grows up next to his mother and then gets sold for meat..Nothing got wasted, we got milk, our grasslands looks beautiful and cow baby had a happy childhood,able to roam around with mommy outside. Not to mention chicken were all the time outside, eating bugs and kept our gardens snail free. And yes, chimpanzees eat meat, actually they can go and hunt together in a group and eat other smaller monkeys. Plus bugs and whatever they find, so for sure they are not vegan. They need also some protein source time to time. Just like us. EAt a lot plant based foods, with a little piece of meat time to time, to give all the vitamins and amino acids you need. Processed meat is dangerous and not good for planet or our health. I have noticed a lot of people here telling like half people are carnivores or herbivores..but they forget the middle, balanced.

[@VeganFred1933]

I have been a vegan for 59 years, I am currently 91 years old and in current good health.

[@theprophet2444]

We eat meat because it tastes great and because it has DHA and Vitamin B12 we can't produces our selves(like other animals can) and in case of grass fed beef omega 3 fatty acids. It's no wonder we have so many vegan KZbinrs leave the cult for health reasons. Humans are omnivores we ate meat forever not distinguishing what kind of meat we got. We eat pork and not dogs because it's more efficient and they provide a lot of meat naturally.