Living in CALIFORNIA vs NORTH CAROLINA | 7 Reasons Why These States COULDN'T Be More Different!

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Lifestyle Chris Vincelli

Lifestyle Chris Vincelli

Күн бұрын

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@STEELPHIT
@STEELPHIT 3 жыл бұрын
NC seems like a great state, a big upgrade from California, NJ, NY, etc. Thanks for sharing your insight, Chris! Coming down sometime this year to check it out. Keep uploading, will keep supporting you!
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@infoguy1978
@infoguy1978 3 жыл бұрын
@-JessGemEdits- what part are you from. i hear raleigh metro and charlotte are good
@freeworld848
@freeworld848 2 жыл бұрын
Mind elaborating in what regards exactly NC is an upgrade from CA and others?
@justcallmee898
@justcallmee898 3 жыл бұрын
No disrespect I still gave the video a 👍🏼 but if your gonna make a comparison I think it’s only fair to give both states equal pros and cons, it just seemed a bit one sided is all. I don’t want to assume whether you are a NC or Cali native since you didn’t mention it, but I can tell you’re very comfortable when speaking about what Cali has to offer. On the flipside you seemed to struggle quite a bit to say anything spectacular about NC. No mention of the Blue Ridge Parkway. (The longest highway carved between mountains in the country offering countless stops for Picnics, Hikes and picturesque views of multiple mountain sites including *Mt.Mitchell the tallest mountain on the east coast and *Grandfather Mountain the second oldest mountain in the world) No mention of Corolla, NC along the coastline. (which is home to the Corolla wild horses of North Carolina, unique to NC only and the only wild horses on the entire east coast) No mention of the Hinnant Farm, The Mother Vine or Duplin wineries. (The Mother Vine being the oldest winery in the country, compared to Napa Valley might seem minuscule but they offer tours along with wine tastings and can make for a very pleasant afternoon with friends or family.) No mention of the Outer Banks. (Home to the highest sand dunes on the east coast if your into 4 wheelers and dirt bikes, also the most remote islands on the east coast offering hundreds of miles of pristine coastline perfect for fishing, swimming and camping right on the beach and watching the sunrise the next morning) No mention of both Raleigh and Charlotte being some of the fastest growing city hubs in the country (Raleigh also being home to the largest museum of science in the southeast, the first art museum in the country and RTP being largest research park in the country and the second largest Tech Hub outside of Silicon Valley). Aside from City sizes, Hollywood and Population. In terms of things to do I personally think NC can match just about any state but as usual a lot of our main attractions simply don’t get the shine they deserve because they fly under the radar, nonetheless I do respect your opinion and I’ll continue to support the channel.
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment. Duly noted. What do you think both states? What is your opinion on them?
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Come visit Florida. It's the best.
@woodstock7052
@woodstock7052 3 жыл бұрын
Not much to brag about in the summer it's miserable winter freezing and bugs I'd never even visit again it's terrible
@justcallmee898
@justcallmee898 3 жыл бұрын
@@woodstock7052 I feel that lol I’ve been here my whole life and I’m still not used to the humidity...
@AdamPflederer
@AdamPflederer 12 күн бұрын
He did mention the beauty of the blue ridge parkway and compared it to the PCH which is a pretty fair comparison. What I would've included is that North Carolina has some of the best surfing beaches on the east coast and are comparable to west coast surfing actually in the Outer Banks and Wilmington areas. Not nearly as well-known or popular for surfing as California.
@kickinitwithmarz3726
@kickinitwithmarz3726 3 жыл бұрын
Northcarolina is cheaper and safer than cali :)
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
That may be true! Why do you think that is?
@henrison
@henrison 3 жыл бұрын
i just went to Cali and been living for over 14 years in NC and in particular Charlotte is getting out of hang with so much crime.Housing is getting more expensive than CA in some places.Taxes as percentage is cheaper in CA in many counties too
@kickinitwithmarz3726
@kickinitwithmarz3726 3 жыл бұрын
@@henrison wow thats good information !i Definitely didnt think charlotte would be more expensive than California - when i visited cali it was rediculous the taxes are way to high- out of handd! Texas has alot of job opportunities i am hearing ! The government just needs to raise the minimum wage so the people can live Comfortably ! Over here min, wage is still 725 or 750 i havnt seen that price since i was a kid! Unbelieveable how they expect people to live off that
@henrison
@henrison 3 жыл бұрын
@@kickinitwithmarz3726 take a look online housing comparison
@vedangsinghal4754
@vedangsinghal4754 3 жыл бұрын
@@henrison raleigh is much better. Housing is kinda crazy, but it depends on the school. The better the school, the more expensive the houses.
@bradleybaerII
@bradleybaerII 3 жыл бұрын
This video should be renamed to southern Cali vs north carolina
@heatherallen4934
@heatherallen4934 3 жыл бұрын
How many cities have human poop aps in North Carolina 🤔
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
None!!!
@JB-mh6xz
@JB-mh6xz 2 жыл бұрын
He goes on and on about how CA has theme parks and mountains beaches and so on. You realize is you look at the length of CA literally covers more than half of West Coast line... so essentially NC to Florida and guess what FL has the same theme parks as as CA with same drive it would take from Central Cal to Anaheim... buuuuuut without the bat shit crazy homeless. It's all in perspective...
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli Жыл бұрын
What do you like most about California?
@JB-mh6xz
@JB-mh6xz Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli Honesty Shasta... its what no one talks about. Everyone in focused on Tahoe but Shasta, Berney Falls, Siskiyou Lake, McCloud, Castle Crags, Mount Lassen, Shasta Caves etc all in that county. People up there a not ruined by soul sucking citys.. Redding is the big city in the area has few homeless. I don't know if you've seen it up there if you have Telegram I'll send you photos.
@shaneschambach932
@shaneschambach932 3 жыл бұрын
You nailed it! I agree with you on everything you said. The only thing I don’t get is your preference of CA over NC since you live in Florida, which clearly has more similar climate and lifestyle to the latter than the former. ? Specially the humidity part vs. the pleasant dryness of CA.
@CUTravel1st
@CUTravel1st 3 жыл бұрын
You have to keep in tractive how large California is when you talk about theme parks and other things. Yes all things are drivable but if you live in SF a trip to Disneyland is the same drive to Disney world. Just saying. I hear if you live in some of the valleys the weather is about the same???
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by in the valleys? There are microclimates all across California because of its geography and terrain!
@MiZZVMN
@MiZZVMN 3 жыл бұрын
Discovery kingdom is in Vallejo ... the Bay Area.
@CUTravel1st
@CUTravel1st 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli sorry after reading what I said it confusing. So the distance from the Bay Area to Disneyland is the same distance from Wilmington to Disney World. The climate in the Bay Area to Wilmington are about the same. There is more rain in Wilmington and more humid in the summer. However the clean air and streets with the nice values and people more then make up for the crazy parts here. There are many valleys here so not sure I answered the question. Does that help
@Rasbutin7000
@Rasbutin7000 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but our theme parks are kinda shit compared to the eastern states. Up in the bay its a 5 hour drive to get to rides without our 150 height limits :'(
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli Жыл бұрын
What do you like about Florida?
@Rasbutin7000
@Rasbutin7000 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli I've never been south of North Carolina but Florida has some roller coasters I want to go on before I die. Other than that........
@Justise
@Justise Жыл бұрын
101 "Pacific Coast Highway" is just the worst. Not a greta drive at all.
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli Жыл бұрын
Why do you say that?
@MiZZVMN
@MiZZVMN 3 жыл бұрын
CA microclimates are serious. I take the train (BART - Bay Area Rapid Transit) from the East Bay Area into San Francisco. I bring a coat with me and dress warm while at work. Then start pulling clothes off as I get back to the East Bay because it’s hot.
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible! What do you like most about California?
@MiZZVMN
@MiZZVMN 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli I LOVE CA. The thing I dislike the most is the cost of housing. People want to be here, that’s why housing is in demand. I started looking into NC because there is talk in my family about possibly moving there. The houses I’ve looked at would cost much more in CA. Overall, I couldn’t bring myself to move to a place where it snows.
@A2Kaid
@A2Kaid 3 жыл бұрын
This is so true and something really cool I like about the Bay Area.
@austoinc.5142
@austoinc.5142 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Benson North Carolina and there’s not that much to do
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you live there?
@austoinc.5142
@austoinc.5142 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli Because we are settled and we like it there
@austoinc.5142
@austoinc.5142 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli and we don’t like living in the big city
@vedangsinghal4754
@vedangsinghal4754 3 жыл бұрын
Both states also have good colleges
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
They do! What do you like most about both states?
@ambergaragiola3961
@ambergaragiola3961 Жыл бұрын
You do need to compare east coast states to California since it would equal the same in land mass…. Also you can actually swim in the Atlantic Ocean. You can’t even swim at the beaches in CA.
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli Жыл бұрын
What do you like most about North Carolina?
@JillLevin-gc4ie
@JillLevin-gc4ie 3 ай бұрын
Stupid comparison. As others mentioned California’s size geographically and in population dwarfs North Carolina.
@joeyl5795
@joeyl5795 3 жыл бұрын
So where would you personally prefer to live?
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
hmmmmm tough question, it would easily be California but the taxes and regulations are way too high
@bh8060
@bh8060 2 жыл бұрын
Native Californian for 65 years. No state in the nation can compete with California in variety of geographic regions, cultural cuisine, outdoor recreation etc. The state is just blessed. Which makes it just that much more tragic that families have to leave the state for quality of life. Blame it on government, nimbys, lack of foresight , whatever. It's a damn shame.
@abdallamahmoud5735
@abdallamahmoud5735 3 жыл бұрын
south carolina Vs CALIFORNIA VS north carolina
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@abdallamahmoud5735
@abdallamahmoud5735 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli we want south Carolina in this compare
@mistersandy
@mistersandy 3 жыл бұрын
I've lived in SoCal for 54 years and Raleigh NC for 3 years in my 20's. I want to move to NC for retirement. If it wasn't for the cost of living and housing, I'd stay in CA. NC is a very close alternative if costs are important.
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about Florida?
@woodstock7052
@woodstock7052 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from cali 3 yrs ago we moved to SC it's boring and totally miserable especially during the summer I moved back to California never leaving again
@LuisVlogChannel
@LuisVlogChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@woodstock7052 I used to live in SoCal. I am like you, I moved out of California (to Pennsylvania though, cute state but it can get boring) I missed California and always remembered my beach times here and Disneyland. I moved back to California and I am happy 😊 I did. I live in Northern California now though but still visit SoCal and I honestly have fun in both southern California and Northern and I have met some pretty cool people here. I just love ❤ California a lot and I think both southern and Northern are just amazing and there are lots of things to do and also there are lots of job opportunities that pay good 👍 that's why it can be "expensive" but is really not there are different areas, different prices and is all about finding there right job opportunity.
@jlpack62
@jlpack62 2 жыл бұрын
I've lived in both, in addition to some other states. I wouldn't go back to California on cost alone, but I also wouldn't want the rat race lifestyle either.
@ufosrus
@ufosrus 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever been north of San Francisco? And I don't mean only to the Wine Country. I mean all the way to the border with Oregon and also the Sierras.
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
never! how is it on the border?
@kickinitwithmarz3726
@kickinitwithmarz3726 3 жыл бұрын
San Francisco is awsome just windy i took a trip there in 2017
@Noone-rt6pw
@Noone-rt6pw 2 жыл бұрын
Is there less pork in CA?
@donedwards7165
@donedwards7165 Жыл бұрын
I MOVED TO NC 14 MONTHS AGO AFTER LIVING MOST OF MY LIFE IN THE SF BAY AREA AND A FEW YEARS IN SO CA,.. FIRST IF YOUR GOING TO COMPARE ALL OF CA TO NC YOU'LL NEED TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRE EAST COAST FROM NC DOWN TO THE TIP OF FLA. SECOND, BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER., TO SAY THAT ONE PLACE OR KIND OF NATURE IS BETTER THAN ANOTHER IS NOT REALISTIC. I DON'T HAVE A GREAT FONDNESS OF CA DESERTS BUT I KNOW OTHERS THAT FIND THEM VERY INTERSTING AND BEAUTIFUL THE SF OCEAN IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT FOR ME TO COLD TO SWIM. NO PROBLEM IN THE WARM NC ATLANTIC. BEFORE WE LEFT SF WE SPENT TIME IN THE SUMMER AND WINTER IN THE BEAUTIFUL GOLD COUNTRY AND MAJESTIC YOSEMITE.VALLEY, WE NOW EQUALLY ENJOY THE BLUE RIDGE PARKWAY AND SURROUNDING MOUNTIANS. WE ENJOYED OUR FIRST 4 SEASONS IN NC.THE FALL WAS BREATHTAKING, THE WINTER WAS SHORT, THE SPRING WAS A NICE CHANGE AND SUMMER NIGHTS ARE GREAT, WE DID HAVE ABOUT 6 WEEKS OF HIGH HUMIDITY, BUT TO OUR SURPRISE WE LIKED IT OVER SF FOG. NC COST OF LIVING IS A BIG PLUS, THE HOMELESS AND DRUG PROBLEM IN SF AND LA IS AWFUL. TO MY SURPRIZE NC STATEWIDE IS A MIX OF LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES BUT UNLIKE THE SF AREA MY EXPERIENCE WITH PEOPLE HERE IS THAT THERE IS FAR MORE TOLERANCE HERE OF EACH OTHERS VIEWS. I AM NOT A CHAMPION OF TRUMP, BUT IF I WAS I WOULDN'T DARE LEAVE MY CAR IN SF WITH A TRUMP BUMPER STICKER FOR FEAR OF VANDALISM. TO BE FAIR LEAVIING ANY CAR IN SF TOURIST LOCATIONS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA, I HAVE MANY FRIENDS AND FAMILY IN CA AND WILL ENJOY RETURN VISITS. BUT FOR ME THERE IS NO COMPARISON FOR QUALITY OF LIFE... I'LL TAKE NC... EVEN IF YOU DON'T COUNT THE AREA DOWN TO FLA.
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli Жыл бұрын
What do you like most about NC?
@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT
@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT 3 жыл бұрын
Did you reupload???
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
I did
@zaidmujahid2020
@zaidmujahid2020 3 жыл бұрын
hey how're you well i'm a student and i want to live in jacksonville so please tell me some information is it have a colleges and schools and have a part time job opportunity please tell me??
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Why Jacksonville?
@zaidmujahid2020
@zaidmujahid2020 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli bc i want to live there and please you visit abd tell me how's city and have a job opportunity and is it beautiful?? but many people say its Gehtto??
@zaidmujahid2020
@zaidmujahid2020 3 жыл бұрын
and it's a ghetto city?? please tell me some information
@zaidmujahid2020
@zaidmujahid2020 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli well i'm a student and i want to live there and tell me is it have a colleges and schools and have a job opportunity and is it a beautiful city?? and many people say that it have many ghetto so tell me all information about jacksonville?? please tell me.
@zaidmujahid2020
@zaidmujahid2020 3 жыл бұрын
tell me please
@suehinson1629
@suehinson1629 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a North Carolinian, with one disadvantage that both NC and Cali, unfortunately share............the way their governed! (IMO I am assuming since the same "party" covers each, I've never had the pleasure of experiencing the Cali geographical placement. Lol.) HEY!! Us North Carolinians have KILLER waves.........literally.......during hurricane season!! 😆 Great video!!
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
What the heck happened in North Carolina? Is it going to same path as California?
@thesmirkingwolf
@thesmirkingwolf 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ChrisVincelli Outside of the major cities, where all the hipsters are going [and a few mountain towns], it isn't bad. The problem is, a lot of "halfbacks" (people who leave the north for florida, then come halfway back) and Californians tend to do the following: 1: flee their old state 2: move to new one, repeat mistakes 3: destroy said state's local culture and appeal 4: wonder what happened 5: do the same with another state 6: repeat
@Stucknarutt
@Stucknarutt 3 жыл бұрын
Must have been a while since you spent much time in NC. "Pleasant winters" ??!! You couldn't be further from the truth there, for years ! For starters, it rains more days and nights a week than not (actually flooding much too frequent now), often with temps just above snow producing ability, making you realize you'd rather it be covered in a blanket of it the whole season. Much better than yards with standing water, mud and muck everywhere, that you can't do anything in, not to mention the sun rarely shines, just adding to the grimness and giving it that constant, ominous and apocalyptic look and feel on top of it all. Just a couple of recent fun facts for you cause from this video, you obviously don't have a clue...2018 was the 'Wettest Year On Record" here, with over 17 inches ABOVE normal/average rainfall/precipitation. 2020 ended in the top 5 I think, with over 12 inches above and 2021 is off to the same start as we are almost 2 inches above average now only mid January. "Natural Disasters" you got partly right with Hurricanes, as we have Several a year with Multiple Ones Being Major, Landfalls, with direct, destructive and devastating hits that take years if not decades to recover from. You failed however, to mention the always increasing, year round threats from "Severe Weather". It doesn't matter what the season is, every month of the year we have "Severe Storm Warnings With Tornado Potential" of different levels. Just a short while back (2 to three weeks ago this winter), we were under a level 3 risk here in Eastern NC and they kill people here every year now. The "Humidity", I do HATE with a passion and won't even say much other than outside of Air Conditioning, you'll sweat here in summer, possibly May through October. In closing, unfortunately, where I'm at now, besides bad weather, there's only Nasty Sounding, Loud Vehicles EVERYWHERE (seriously, they think it want run right if it won't pierce ears and they like waking you at 3 AM with it) and low class people that even give "Redneck" a bad name. NC used to be great but it SUCKS now for Many reasons !! I've seen it declining for years and I'm getting away from it soon, hopefully, if things can go right for a change. Good Day to you.
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
What did I miss?
@infoguy1978
@infoguy1978 3 жыл бұрын
Stucknarutt- what part of north carolina are you from?
@Stucknarutt
@Stucknarutt 3 жыл бұрын
@@infoguy1978 Eastern, Inland NC. Forty minutes east of Raleigh and two hours from the Beaches.
@marisolorosco4345
@marisolorosco4345 3 жыл бұрын
Talk first about NC!! I don’t care about Cali. Been here all my life and want to move out of it.
@nicholaibrooks6990
@nicholaibrooks6990 3 жыл бұрын
I have a house to sell you in California so I can move to NC!
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
I'm good...I'm happy here in Florida haha
@nicholaibrooks6990
@nicholaibrooks6990 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli I think California used to be great 20-30 years ago. Now it's okay to visit but not to live here. You missed a big difference in your comparison - the sheer number of people everywhere you go or on the way in California, it's insane.
@pppalande20
@pppalande20 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@marisolorosco4345
@marisolorosco4345 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@A2Kaid
@A2Kaid 3 жыл бұрын
California is by far the most beautiful state in the country especially compared to the southeast US. There's way more to do in California, better good, better climate, close access to nature/public lands. The big downsides of Cali are highly expensive housing cost, high taxes, Democrat run state has run amok.
@laurajohnson9707
@laurajohnson9707 3 жыл бұрын
What? There is access to nature everywhere in NC. You have access to mountains and the beach. The waters are warmer in NC, much more enjoyable beach experience. Have you ever been to NC?
@A2Kaid
@A2Kaid 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurajohnson9707 I don’t think we share the same definition for ‘accessible’. People who live in the Bay Area are within about 30min drive to the most worldly and scenic beaches, mountains, valleys, and deserts. There is no one place like that in NC. People who live in Raleigh are 4-5hrs away from “mountains” but about 2hrs away from beaches. People in Charlotte are 4.5hrs from the beach and 2hrs from the mountains, that’s not exactly what I call “accessible”. If that’s what you call accessible then you could say the same for SC and VA. Have you ever even been to the Bay Area? It doesn’t sound like you have.
@laurajohnson9707
@laurajohnson9707 3 жыл бұрын
@@A2Kaid I used to live in wilmington nc and I was pretty close to the beach. SF is a nightmare with traffic, lack of parking spaces, homeless people shitting everywhere etc. I went there 3 times and 2 of those times my car was broken into. Scary place. I don't plan on going there again.
@A2Kaid
@A2Kaid 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurajohnson9707 Obviously Wilmington is close to the beach, but far from the mountains. Thanks for making my point. I’m not talking about SF in itself but what the surrounding area has to offer. And no SF isn’t that bad and yet it’s still more cosmopolitan than any city in NC. NC cities aren’t really cities. They’re small towns, with sprawling suburbs, shitty food, boring, no entertainment or night life. As for lack of parking, lol that’s an issue for many true cities in the world. However you can find garage parking easy which is more secure. SF has better food, better weather, better beaches/mountains/views/jobs/etc. downsides too but don’t compare NC to SF/Bay area lol
@laurajohnson9707
@laurajohnson9707 3 жыл бұрын
@@A2Kaid so what? Mountains are just a drive away. Not that big of a deal. Cosmopolitan doesn't equal better. SF has become a shithole city. You couldn't pay me to live there.
@manoiumusicgames5763
@manoiumusicgames5763 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but NC is inferior to CA on pretty much every level. The only advantages really are the cheap housing and lack of traffic, but that’s the way it is for a reason.
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Haha but what about the beaches?
@tommyflorida9204
@tommyflorida9204 3 жыл бұрын
I love the accent in NC
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
What else??
@kickinitwithmarz3726
@kickinitwithmarz3726 3 жыл бұрын
I love the hospitality but the accent grinds my gears
@kickinitwithmarz3726
@kickinitwithmarz3726 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli what do u like in nc ? I like the hospitality and. Respect
@antonvitullo772
@antonvitullo772 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in North Carolina, it’s ok but it’s boring but I love the beaches
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Which beach is your favorite?
@antonvitullo772
@antonvitullo772 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisVincelli I liked the outter banks , I was living In Greenville North Carolina
@AliFatCat
@AliFatCat 3 жыл бұрын
First!
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@donotreply8979
@donotreply8979 3 жыл бұрын
Who tf cares about theme parks and cities? They're both gross and most stuff is closed now because of covid
@ChrisVincelli
@ChrisVincelli 3 жыл бұрын
People care.
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