Living in Eugene VS Living in Springfield, Oregon | Which is more livable?

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Moving to Eugene Oregon with Hannah Caldwell

Moving to Eugene Oregon with Hannah Caldwell

Күн бұрын

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@samislegend89
@samislegend89 3 ай бұрын
Moved to Springfield after 24 years in Eugene, so happy I did. There are great locations in both cities, but the concentration of young families in the Hayden Bridge area of Springfield feels vibrant in a way that Eugene hasn’t felt in a long time.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing! I tend to agree, for whatever reason you just don't see young families en-masse in Eugene and you see retirees a lot, so it can feel that way. But I know there are plenty of young families in Eugene, so I do think some of it is psychological.
@merrymaya
@merrymaya 5 ай бұрын
Eugene with it’s large population no longer has a hospital. Springfield has two, one of them is huge. I do worry about the folks in west Eugene & the time it would take to get emergency medical attention at a hospital. Eugene had a hospital that closed in the last year.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
I have been hearing more and more that we have a pretty significant lack of medical providers for our size. I definitely agree we need a hospital towards West Eugene.
@GeorgeT-f3i
@GeorgeT-f3i 3 ай бұрын
I grew up in Eugene where we scoffed at Springfield for being a trash city. Then I moved around the country for a while and came back to Eugene, where I currently live. I never thought I would say this, but Springfield has improved to the point where I think it's a better place to live, raise a family, etc than Eugene. Most areas have easy enough access to Downtown/University area amenities anyways and Springfield is closer to Mckenzie river activities or river front housing if that's your jam. The local government and school district seem to function a little to a lot better (I will spare you the essay on the city of Eugene's impact on local businesses and the financial waste at 4J). Not to mention the better value per sq ft of house in springfield, combined with a quickly improving restaurant scene.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing! I think these are all fair positives for Springfield.
@elocc9570
@elocc9570 4 ай бұрын
As someone who has lived in both, Springfield has MUCH cheaper utility bills. Eugene is 3x more than my previous place in Springfield.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 4 ай бұрын
SUB definitely reigns supreme.
@benshoemaker1318
@benshoemaker1318 2 ай бұрын
"Aren't Eugene and Springfield the same city" actually caused a visceral emotional reaction. Love that I found this channel.
@deadcarz4926
@deadcarz4926 Ай бұрын
Of course, except the politics. Eugene tolerates the thieving addicts more than Springfield.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon Ай бұрын
A visceral reaction is always what I am going for.
@deadcarz4926
@deadcarz4926 Ай бұрын
@@MovingtoEugeneOregon We are moving. We have had enough of filthy addicts, ruining a city. My neighbor is a Eugene PD officer. He estimates the the P.D. spends 70% of their shifts, dealing with Measure 110 thieving addicts. That leaves 30% of the P.D., in a growing city, to protect tax-payers! No thank you!
@Oregonyardening
@Oregonyardening 6 ай бұрын
Team Springfield!!!
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 6 ай бұрын
That's 1 vote for Springfield!
@Mr.Horn_5150
@Mr.Horn_5150 5 ай бұрын
​@@MovingtoEugeneOregonthat's one more than Eugene has.
@zachedwards488
@zachedwards488 6 ай бұрын
Team Springfield! Specifically the washburne!!!!!
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 6 ай бұрын
I do really love the Washburne, and also really love Jefferson-Westside, which have similar feels.
@Energia-977
@Energia-977 6 ай бұрын
It depends on where you live in both cities. They both have good and bad places,but Eugene's bad places are much worse than Springfield has.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
I think this is a totally fair take!
@joshuahenderson9310
@joshuahenderson9310 7 ай бұрын
Springfield has 2 pools. Willamalane on G Street. And the wave pool out in Thurston.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 7 ай бұрын
You are right! How could I forget about Splash!
@Shart-santha
@Shart-santha 24 күн бұрын
This was so thoroughly researched! Thank you for putting it all in once place!🖤 This was exactly what I was looking for. My husband and I want to make the move out there but wasn’t sure if we wanted to live in Eugene or Springfield. I used to live in Portland and I miss the PNW but I do NOT want to live in a city that big again🤣. I think Springfield will be perfect four our needs, and if not, Eugene is right next door.🤣 I appreciate all of the effort that went into making this video!🖤
@dianawalker4898
@dianawalker4898 6 ай бұрын
Springfield also has a minor league baseball team, the Drifters.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 6 ай бұрын
That's right! I forgot about the Drifters.
@Vendrix86
@Vendrix86 Ай бұрын
great video. Been wanting to buy a house for years now and would definitely choose springfield but the rising prices overall these days is insane. Hopefully when crypto explodes I can pay the down payment lol.
@mdj-ie7rj
@mdj-ie7rj 3 ай бұрын
Excellent job on this. Very detailed and thorough comparisons
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful!
@phoenixmichaels
@phoenixmichaels 6 ай бұрын
I grew up in Springfield (Yolanda area, Briggs Jr. High). We referred to it as "Springtucky".
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
I have heard that a time or two.
@shooker111
@shooker111 3 ай бұрын
Eugene currently doesn't have any hospitals. You showed a picture of PeaceHealth at University District which has been closed for almost a year. Only the psychiatric unit is left at that location.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 2 ай бұрын
You are right, but a new hospital is coming to west Eugene soon-ish (hopefully) says the city.
@sophiamartin1971
@sophiamartin1971 17 күн бұрын
Not true. They don’t have an Emergency Room. They have Doctors offices and the BHU (as you mentioned) still. I take my children to peace health university district. Soon they will have a lactation office there.
@carolyng.6405
@carolyng.6405 23 күн бұрын
A beautiful 1.94 acre field adjacent to my home in the Eugene Santa Clara neighborhood recently got developed with 10 new homes. Each home is single story, approximately 1650 square feet, and tiny strips of grass on each side of the homes, with a front lawn just long enough to accommodate a car in the driveway, and a back “yard” that has a tiny deck off the back facing directly into a fence. Cost of these homes runs around $540k. 8 of the 10 homes are already sold, and from what I can observe, it is couples without children. The homes are “nice” enough but there are no distinguishable features such as rock work or craftsmanship.The city built a street down the center of the field that allows for parking on only one side of the street because it is so narrow. All the homes look identical except for the painted exteriors, though most are painted white. The infill in the Santa Clara/River Road neighborhoods is out of control. River Road is congested same as Coburg Rd. and West 11th. I used to love living here, but now I find Eugene a depressing place. Downtown Eugene streets feel like canyons with mid rise apartment complexes on every side of the street. There are homeless people sleeping in the library and weird people hanging out downtown. If you have a lot of disposable income there are some nice sections in downtown with nice to fancy restaurants and bars. Parking is generally a pain in the ass unless a business like The Kiva has its own parking lot. There are ZERO Christmas decorations in downtown because God forbid somebody gets offended. Trees are disappearing like crazy. Just look at old photos of Eugene from the 70’s and you’ll see what I mean. My property taxes are ridiculous. 4J schools are a joke. When my granddaughter was in 4th grade, she came home to inform her mother that there are 4 genders. That tells me everything I need to know about 4J. Feel free to add to this litany of complaints.
@carolyng.6405
@carolyng.6405 23 күн бұрын
So there are some positives about Eugene. Great bike and walking trails, Parks and Recs in both towns offer a large slate of activities, and the small grocery stores have great selections of organically grown produce. Even the produce section of Fred Meyers in Santa Clara has a good selection of fresh organic produce, if you don’t mind navigating the cluster-x parking lot. Many neighborhoods are generally quiet. There are some excellent bakeries, and you can even find local farms that sell fresh, raw milk.
@barbname2153
@barbname2153 6 ай бұрын
Great video! It would be good to include taxes as well utilities in both cities
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 6 ай бұрын
Great point! I will have to do an updated one!
@Guydude8888
@Guydude8888 5 ай бұрын
Springfield is about 2/3 or less the cost of utilities than Eugene
@MinisterCrowley
@MinisterCrowley 3 ай бұрын
I live in Springfield on mountian gate my property taxes are almost 8k a year.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 2 ай бұрын
There are definitely areas of Springfield that rival much of Eugene, Mountain Gate especially.
@lolamyers7129
@lolamyers7129 5 ай бұрын
If you don't already live here, please don't move here. Eugene has the second highest population in oregon, the first being Portland. We have the highest population, beating Portland, for the size of the city. In 2019, Eugene had a higher homeless rate per capita than New York and Los Angeles. It's gotten much worse. The renting prices are higher than represented here, but good luck getting an apartment or rental. The competition for housing is so bad that when you are trying to get an apartment, you have to just jump on it site unseen, or else they will just choose from the hundreds of other applicants. Do you like your car windows busted in? I hope, because it's definitely going to happen, at minimum once. There is also a high amount of air pollution put off by the factories. I can't remember the statistic off the top of my head, but the levels in west Eugene were tested and they were extremely high. Many people live directly in that area. There is at least one school directly in the area also.... So, if you don't already live here, we are over capacity as it is. This is not a good place to live. There also aren't many things to do here.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
I haven't ever had a window smashed in here. I also keep super busy, with community groups, volunteering, city league sports, hiking, you name it. I'm sorry your experience has been so poor.
@migriv4603
@migriv4603 Ай бұрын
safety is always a situational thing for me. Just make sure your car doesn't look like it has valuables in it. Also its always a good decision to not have a nice fancy car if you don't have a safe place to park it. homeless IS a big issue though. I've had friends from out of town visit, and they are alarmed by the amount of homeless people. Personally i've grown numb to it, so much so that when i go anywhere else, I'm surprised at how little homeless people there are. I still think both eugene and Springfield are a good choice of living in oregon, over portland if someone doesn't want those SUPER HIGH prices of portland
@Tyler-dt9bi
@Tyler-dt9bi 4 ай бұрын
I feel like Eugene is being gentrified by huge rental companies who are buying out the small family landlords. Many places require you to make 3x the rent (so for a $1500 apartment, $4500) which is not affordable for most people. A lot of rich younger people from Cali or other places move here who have parents who can cosign or pay rent for them. But the people who are first generation college students or low income can't keep up. It's very sad. Also crazy that the housing/rental prices are comparable in Eugene to Portland, but we have nowhere near as much to do. One cool thing is that there's a large "out and proud" queer + trans population here. I feel like queer people from the smaller conservative Oregon towns move to Eugene or Portland to find solace in the city. I moved to Eugene from the midwest, and am happy to have done so, but I am also financially privileged. Thank you for this video! It was interesting to see the differences between Eugene and Springfield.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 4 ай бұрын
I agree we have a big affordable housing problem. I try to be optimistic and I know there are a lot of people in our community that are seeking solutions, but I do think there would have to be a drastic shift for any substantial change to happen. We do have a strong LGBTQIA+ community, and a lot of ally support! Thank you for watching!
@Lurch685
@Lurch685 Ай бұрын
It’s not “cool” that the freaks come here to weird it up.
@cloudrdr
@cloudrdr 4 ай бұрын
Just a note Willamalane has TWO swim centers. Splash, as you noted, plus a Swim center at the park On Mohawk and G Street.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 4 ай бұрын
I actually didn't know this! Thank you for sharing. Is it in that sort of park area on the west side of Mohawk?
@cloudrdr
@cloudrdr 4 ай бұрын
@@MovingtoEugeneOregon yes. Exactly. It is a great swim center.
@SeanElliott-j2z
@SeanElliott-j2z 6 ай бұрын
Your showing two pictures of Eugene for your cover photo! Are you from around here?
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 6 ай бұрын
Good catch! ;) If you sleuthed that out, I bet if you watch other videos you can determine if I am from around here or not.
@rebeccacashero1539
@rebeccacashero1539 4 ай бұрын
Springfield is great
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 4 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@djdhjdnf
@djdhjdnf 4 ай бұрын
I’m moving to eugene in a few weeks from the east coast, thanks for making this video!
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 4 ай бұрын
Welcome! Thank you for watching!
@Georgeanne17
@Georgeanne17 15 күн бұрын
sorry to hear.
@tashacooper1753
@tashacooper1753 6 ай бұрын
Springfield has less homeless so there’s less violence
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 6 ай бұрын
That may be true.
@deadcarz4926
@deadcarz4926 6 ай бұрын
Eugene likes to cater to the thieving-addicts. (AKA homeless)
@josephr9930
@josephr9930 5 ай бұрын
I worked for the city of springfield doing landscaping one summer. Hypodermic needles were a major hazard for workers and we would find them everyday. Springfield has a major drug problem.
@deadcarz4926
@deadcarz4926 5 ай бұрын
@@josephr9930 I live off 99. It's way worse over here. Springfield is doing what Eugene SHOULD!
@josephr9930
@josephr9930 5 ай бұрын
What are they doing?
@petere9120
@petere9120 6 ай бұрын
Were thinking of renting a home on forsythia and s 41st st. Is that neighborhood nice? I know its next to the railroad.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 6 ай бұрын
As long as you are okay with the train sounds, it is a pretty quiet, quaint residential neighborhood.
@sopermanobsessed
@sopermanobsessed Ай бұрын
Be aware of the paper mill up 42nd! I don't have a good nose, but my partner does and he really stuggles with the smell. Smells like sewer.
@yubeeeep
@yubeeeep Ай бұрын
Im suprised so many in there 20s dont have a bachlors im from the valley in california. Definently a culture difference
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@halfblindchaos2506
@halfblindchaos2506 4 ай бұрын
Just a few questions, 1. How are the homeless treated? I know that in some cities they are treated unkindly and unfairly. 2. Are there good mental health and autism resources and support groups? Where I live there are no mental health support groups and autism resources are quite limited. 3. How is the air quality due to seasonal fires? It's actually quite bad here. 4. How is the bus situation? They have a lot of busses here but the system as a whole kind of sucks. 5. What is the deal with Dari Mart? Why do they have like 40 stores in only in Eugene and the surrounding areas. I just find it odd that there is a chain with that many stores that are not found anywhere else. Finally, If I knew a person named Eugene in Caldwell, ID the cycle of life would be complete.
@halfblindchaos2506
@halfblindchaos2506 4 ай бұрын
Here is some history about Eugene and Springfield. 1. Chex Quest a free PC game included in Chex cereal in the 90's and created using the Doom engine was developed by a company in Eugene. 2. Springfield from the Simpsons was modelled after its namesake city in Oregon. 3. Meredith Brooks started her music career in Eugene.
@NewWorldSinner
@NewWorldSinner 4 ай бұрын
The homeless are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want basically it's a real problem
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 4 ай бұрын
I guess I would say the homeless are not treated as poorly as they are in most places, but they are not treated well. They are constantly harassed and forced to move, but there are also a lot of resources and organizations trying to help. There is a lot of community support and resources around neurodivergence, with that said, for individuals with higher support needs (doctors, OT, PT, and specialists) there are more resources in and around Portland. I personally say expect a week every summer of pretty nasty air quality, with that said, this summer was super mild and there was only maybe 2-3 days where it was noticeable. Portions of our bus system operate well. The main parts of Eugene and Springfield can be accessed via the EMX. For areas not on the EMX route the bus system does take quite a long time for not very long distances. Dari Mart is a locally owned company that has been around as long as I can remember and all I can do is guess, but they made an impact on the community from very early on, so here they can compete with the larger competitors like AM/PM, 7-11, etc. I don't think they would be able to compete in markets where they haven't created the relationships they have here. Best guess anyway.
@migriv4603
@migriv4603 Ай бұрын
do you want activities to do? live in springfield cuz u can drive to eugene in like 10 min. Do you want safety? Live in springfield, cuz if you want *safety* you'll be spending extra on a gated neighborhood anyways. Good schools? maybe eugene for this one.... Good shopping malls? Live in springfield and just drive to eugene. Everything boils down to: just drive to eugene
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon Ай бұрын
Yes, realistically Eugene and Springfield are close enough these things don't impact lifestyle much.
@stevemcdonald1033
@stevemcdonald1033 5 ай бұрын
I was born in Eugene and lived most of my life there, but am now living in exile in this other place you're discussing. But in fact, I've always regarded both cities to be more or less the same place. Eventually I think that they will combine in all ways and the name of this new city will be Eugene. Not "Springene" or some other silly concocted name. Our fire departments have already combined in both name and organization. After our police departments and school districts have joined together, it is inevitable that governmentally we'll combine also. The economy and efficiency of size will be a benefit and having to support only one organization for each major municipal function will save money. It will be the placing of an official stamp on a joining together that has already mostly occurred. Eugene is the bluest city in the bluest state and the younger people in both these cities will expand on that as time passes. As the older generation passes on to their just rewards, any differences in politics will fade into obscurity.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your opinion! I agree they often feel like one city and your take on the potential future is very interesting.
@crazynews3425
@crazynews3425 5 ай бұрын
Is springfield safe to live???????
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
This depends on your level of comfort and which area of Springfield you live in. Personally, I feel very safe in Springfield. I know some people of color who feel very differently.
@Guydude8888
@Guydude8888 5 ай бұрын
All people are welcome here and you'll have less chance of getting in an altercation in Springfield than Eugene by far
@Lurch685
@Lurch685 Ай бұрын
@@MovingtoEugeneOregonthat’s simply ridiculous.
@Kerrchung
@Kerrchung 5 ай бұрын
Springfield utility board is way better than eugene water and electric board.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
I would agree with this.
@sythe_gamingofficial
@sythe_gamingofficial Ай бұрын
Springfield all the way. Never liked Eugene too much. Technically I was born in Eugene, but lets not talk about that part. Lived all of my 19 years in Springfield.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon Ай бұрын
Glad to hear you love Springfield!
@bonescdxx
@bonescdxx 5 ай бұрын
Q: What does Springfield have, but Eugene doesn't? A: A major Oregon city within five miles.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 4 ай бұрын
True.
@oregonsnob31
@oregonsnob31 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for including photo credits but I would like to know your sources for your presented facts-similar to what would be included with your research for a thesis for example.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 4 ай бұрын
If there are specific facts or stats, I just googled them. Unfortunately these videos are already quite time intensive, and they are not my thesis project, so I will try to site things as I say them if I can, but I don't make any promises.
@sopermanobsessed
@sopermanobsessed Ай бұрын
I've been living in this area for 5y, mostly Springfield, mainly because it's cheaper and less crowded. Just be aware that one difference she didn't mention is that Eugene is mostly democrat and Springfield is most republican. This is more relevant now than it was when I moved here. 😬
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your perspective!
@Canteen926
@Canteen926 5 ай бұрын
I’ve lived in both, been ripped off in both. I’ll stick with Eugene.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 4 ай бұрын
There are pros and cons with both, certainly!
@kathelapointe
@kathelapointe 2 ай бұрын
Move to Sprimgfield after a few years in Eugene and so happy I did. Was so tired of the woke people in Eugene.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon Ай бұрын
So glad you are happier now!
@user-eb3ns7jy8s
@user-eb3ns7jy8s 5 ай бұрын
Ummm…I lived in both I would said neither. Run as fast as you can!!
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
Where do you live now? Is it better?
@jamessizemore7103
@jamessizemore7103 13 күн бұрын
Had* Eugene Emeralds
@sohum8772
@sohum8772 Ай бұрын
I have a strong feeling that you’re not from here… Oregon is a great place to visit, just don’t stay! Eugene is the County seat, and people from all over Lane County tend to move to Eugene, if they encounter hardship. I have met multiple homeless people in Eugene, that found themselves homeless in Bend (next County over,) and the police offered them an illegal camping ticket, or a bus ticket to Eugene… The police in Springfield tend to be much more aggressive towards people that look “unhoused,” and/or not white… some people like that… some people are into Fascism… it’s all a matter of personal preference.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon Ай бұрын
Born in springfield. ;)
@deadcarz4926
@deadcarz4926 6 ай бұрын
There are less thieving-addicts(AKA homeless) in Springfield. Eugene likes to cater to them?
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
I would agree there are less homeless in Springfield.
@WoooLady
@WoooLady 5 ай бұрын
This would be a great opportunity for social workers and a shelter project
@deadcarz4926
@deadcarz4926 Ай бұрын
@@WoooLady We waste million$ on rehab facilities, and Safe Spot housing. They CHOOSE to steal and get high! Wake up!
@christophercasey7388
@christophercasey7388 6 ай бұрын
Pickleball!
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 6 ай бұрын
PICKLEBALL! How could I not mention it! Lot's of Pickleball everywhere.
@christophercasey7388
@christophercasey7388 6 ай бұрын
@@MovingtoEugeneOregon Yes: 8 at Meadow Park in Springfield, 8 at Westmoreland in Eugene, hopefully 20 at LCC in 2025. Also courts at Sheldon and Churchill, Kidsports, Willamalane.
@paulatyler8218
@paulatyler8218 16 күн бұрын
It’s so close it doesn’t really matter. Both are full of trump voters and lots of students from elsewhere who leave asap. Eugene has more options and more homeless, due to higher housing prices.
@TinaJones-h7x
@TinaJones-h7x 6 ай бұрын
Springfield is for people who want to raise a family. Eugene is the EXACT opposite.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 6 ай бұрын
Also raising a 2 year old in Eugene and have been so happy with it, but not everyone would be.
@josephr9930
@josephr9930 5 ай бұрын
Springfield has Deliverance vibes.
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for providing your opinion!
@WoooLady
@WoooLady 5 ай бұрын
😅😅😅
@americanadventureoutdoors4213
@americanadventureoutdoors4213 22 күн бұрын
Springfield is definitely better but over all and mostly because of the Eugene policy’s and the far left stance of the Oregon government both places get a 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻.
@martinameh
@martinameh 5 ай бұрын
Eugene trends Democratic and Springfield trends Republican
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@arisozerah
@arisozerah 5 ай бұрын
Shirts hella wrinkly
@MovingtoEugeneOregon
@MovingtoEugeneOregon 5 ай бұрын
I want to be a person that irons, but its just not me.
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