Living that Post-Labor Lifestyle - Lessons and Insights

[@SethGammon]

"I needed boundaries with my audience, and I needed to focus on myself." THE important takeaway and executed well, well done sir.

[@OceanGateEngineer4Hire]

Post labour, I'm going to direct and act in the best theatrical productions of Shakespeare the world has ever seen. That's my dream.

[@DaveShap]

Do it!

[@mrleenudler]

Nice ambition!

[@ClaimClam]

Too laborious for me

[@IM2awsme]

​@@DaveShap we live in an artificial scarcity economy, we are being throttled economically, if we had access to an unregulated/nontaxed economy, we would have achieved literally anything, instead only those of influence are capable of having access to the tru post scarcity society that everyone should have had access to.

[@dunebuggy5885]

I hope this dreamy optimism pans out into a wonderful utopia. We could also be scratching around in dumpsters for dinner. We don't know what is going to happen.

[@a7xfanben]

Post Labor Economics is the main reason I subscribed I think a lot of life is doing what you want, so I'm glad you're feeling free and less filtered

[@EamonnMooney]

But just so you realize that wont be the case for the vast majority of people in the world. It will be a constant struggle for basic resources.

[@gamesndrinks]

A lot of us are lost in the rat race. Our work patterns have become our lives. Many of us don't know how to reconnect to ourselves. Hopefully People begin to let go in a healthy manner. Financial anxiety is what is keeping all of us caught in the old paradigm.

[@user-zc4uv6ej2e]

I expect in the not too far future, people will look back in bewilderment at how we spent so much of our lives sitting in grey offices doing repetitive tasks , with only a few weeks of leave each year. It seems normal now, but so did children working 12 hour days in factories at on point in history.

[@lunchbagheadwaters3543]

In a lot of countries they're already bewildered by the USA's obsession with work. Some countries have like 2 months off a year for every citizen. Just because they actually tax the rich, there.

[@matthewtheobald1231]

Treat youtube like an art form, not a business. No one tells an artist what to make. They understand that their art is a form of personal expression. That's how more youtubers should be viewing their work. "Do what you love and the money will come" - Walt Disney

[@__-tz6xx]

Losing jobs isn't good if the person who loss the job has no money to survive comfortably.

[@theredgem]

That's what the "economics" part of post-labour economics is about

[@GubekochiGoury]

@@theredgem indeed, but we are not there yet so as of today, losing jobsvis still a bad thing. It might be growing pains but that's true only if we end up growing.

[@ReubenAStern]

adapt so you need less money. It will buy you time.

[@Tata-ew4lz]

UBI during the transition phase to post money, then 99.99% of what you spend money on today to be free at a higher quality level.

[@RonnieDenburg]

@@GubekochiGourysorry, but not having an income when you need one to survive, is not growing pain, it’s devastating leading to every bad outcome you can think of.

[@JakexGaming]

My post labor goal is to have a family, a few dogs, big yard for them, and focus on what it means to be a human (enjoying hobbies, spending time with friends, making the world a better place)

[@HuskerActual]

I'm also living the post labor lifestyle ironically due to a disability. Personally I think it's going to get worse before it gets better for most people. Some like you are lucky to have developed these income streams. That said a lot of millionaires will chop of their own arm before they pay 1% wealth tax for UBI.

[@andrasbiro3007]

Wealth tax is stupid, and unnecessary. Just normal income and capital gains tax are enough. The goal is to fix the distribution of GDP, which is slowly shifting away from labor since the 70's.

[@HuskerActual]

@@andrasbiro3007 That was just an example. If we increase any taxes on the rich, they will flee to countries with less taxes. This will happen until there is nowhere left to go. Then we can maybe start to see some real change.

[@erkinalp]

@@andrasbiro3007 Wouldn't wealth tax help equalise the wealth before the transistion?

[@andrasbiro3007]

@@HuskerActual Taxing the rich is fine, but the devil is in the details. Wealth tax is stupid because most rich people have paper wealth, they own stocks in their own companies, they are not liquid. The richest men on the planet is actually cash poor, he has almost nothing except shares in his own companies. These shares are hard to sell, because even just the rumors of the sale usually tanks the stock price, wiping out a good chunk of that wealth. And if the company is private, it's much harder still. I've just heard of someone in Norway who founded a successful business and now have to pay wealth tax several times his income. And he can't even leave the country, because there's a steep exit tax too. This is how you destroy the worlds best economy in a few years. If you want to tax the rich, tax income progressively, tax capital gains lightly (max 15%), and tax luxury goods hard. Hard to run away from income tax, because income is usually tied to a location. And in case of luxury goods the high price is part of the appeal. And taxes are just half of the equation. Higher GDP means more tax revenue even if rates don't change. So make sure that laws and regulations promote economic growth. Keep them to the minimum, focus on fair competition, public safety, and sustainability. For example the main cause of skyrocketing home prices is regulations. Prices are set by the balance of supply and demand, so in a healthy market high prices induce more supply, which drives down the cost. And innovation drives down cost too. So if the price of something keeps rising over a long period, then something is interfering with market forces, and that's 99% of the time regulations. Sometimes it's for a good reason (like air quality in case of cars), but usually it's not.

[@andrasbiro3007]

@@erkinalp No it would destroy economies and prevent the transition in the worst way. OK, second worst behind nuclear war.

[@MarcoLandin]

I love that you posted this, I love that you've taken control of your life, and I look forward to seeing what other good stuff you develop!

[@jeran881]

If the loss of jobs is not being replaced by some form of UBI most of us are cooked. I don't see solid movement or even conversations at governmental level. Kinda hard to be optimistic from my vantage point.

[@andrasbiro3007]

There was a push for it before the pandemic, but since then the culture war overrides everything else. If we can keep democracy, we'll have UBI too, because people will vote for it. And now we are looking good on that front.

[@sandeshpandit5540]

They will talk only when top people will say "Oh no! our customers are getting low". So, tha talks won't be for us but them, for the wealthy.

[@derekoreborn]

there will be coaches and trainings and even AI teachers that encourage everyone to play to their strengths. I already believe current AI tools can leverage huge benefits to society in transforming how good the citizenry are. Even people who are remotely creative can leverage it to spread their message to the entire world easier now than ever.

[@jeran881]

@derekoreborn Hard for me to see it. Yes it is easier than ever for someone to say "hawk thua" and get attention and money out of it, but for most of us... I am not sure.

[@benpielstick]

I really hope we can all get to a post-labor lifestyle. Unfortunately most people can't ignore money yet, so what I actually care about the most right now is how we transition to a post-labor economy in practical terms. We could see millions of people unemployed next year, and for them this would not be a good thing because they won't be able to afford to pay rent or buy food or pay for insurance. I feel like UBI is the best chance we have for mass unemployment to actually lead toward a meaning economy rather than monetary economic disaster.

[@KatharineOsborne]

I've been unemployed for 17 months now. I'm a software engineer, and did have quite a bit saved up but eventually I had to go on Universal Credit (I live in the UK). It does not even pay my rent fully let alone bills or food. I'm in significant credit card debt, and use a food co-op (thank god for mutual aid). I talked to a recruiter recently who said the contracting market shrank by 70% in the last 2 years. Given how many jobs I've applied to and been rejected, I assume the permanent software job market is similar. I've applied outside my field with no success either. It's crushing. Plus to keep qualifying for UC I have a quota of job applications I have to do every week, which constrains other projects I could be working on (open source, startup ideas, etc that might lead to income faster). I stopped doing side hustles about a decade ago because I had cancer, but I've been doing surveys lately, and selling my clothes. It's a lot of scraping and scrounging to try to get by and my anxiety is through the roof. I've also gone to my MP to try to bring some attention to the software job market, but it was like talking to a brick wall. The current system (at least in the UK but probably everywhere) is not set up to handle large numbers of white collar workers being 'out of work'. I don't know what it would take to get the government to take notice unless and until unemployment skyrockets. Also I would not bet the future on side hustle or passive income. These are really hard to get started in, aren't suitable to everyone's skill sets (or desirable), and if everyone is affected, less revenue will be available (i.e. if no one can afford to become a member of a KZbin channel, and people don't click through on ads because they can't afford to purchase anything, getting money out of KZbin will be increasingly difficult). I don't know if UBI is the best answer, but it is an answer (universal healthcare is also critical, and I think free education as well). The Green Party in the UK has UBI as part of their platform, but not many of us are voting for them, and it really hasn't been part of a major party platform in any country recently.

[@williamwillaims]

A "meaning" economy... I don't wish to sound rude, but I don't think people are fully grasping the psychological and cultural shifts this all requires. All of human existence, even right now, is people pushing, fighting, and striving and doing things they don't really want to do to survive. We all know how power corrupts. And we want to, within a decade or two, block that road of self-sufficiency and give it all to "the government of the day".... Recipe for disaster 🎉❤

[@RonnieDenburg]

And where will the money for UBI come from? Taxing humanoids, billionaires, and AI corporations?And you think conservatives who want small government and hate social security nets will vote for this?

[@williamwillaims]

@RonnieDenburg 100% this is plagued with a million and one issues. And there's not enough time to sort it all out. It sounds hyperbolic- but revolutions aren't just something for the history books. No serious historian would say the future holds no revolutionary periods.

[@lipatovs]

I completely agree with your approach-it's so important to focus on where we want to go rather than getting caught up in the current fluctuations. You're doing great work, and it's inspiring to see your dedication. Take care of yourself!

[@jimbyrom1992]

Appreciate you so much Dave, especially for your authenticity. You don't need to be offering us what you do and you do so anyway despite the way we (in the comments section) can treat you at times. Thanks for keeping on going for those of us who are listening intently and with an open mind.

[@madebyporter]

Lol the music + backgrounds with a "ooo hell no" was hilarious!

[@denjamin2633]

Pretty tone deaf in this video. People are afraid of losing their jobs because we arent in post labour economics yet. Until we have UBI or something similar in place everyone that loses their job to automation is going to be financially devastated. Its great that you have passive income streams that can support you, I am really happy for you. But most people don't have that luxury. You know what gives me meaning? What the most important thing is to me right now? Feeding my child and keeping a roof over her head. So don't tell someone staring down the barrel of a gun "why are you worried, this is a good thing!" The transition is going to be very painful for a lot of people.

[@theredgem]

That will only be true if things continue as they are where everyone seems to be pretending this isn't going to happen. If, however, someone realizes early enough that labour is dead and creates an appropriate next step, then the transition will be from two weeks holidays to fifty two weeks holidays with no loss of income. Doubt many folks would take issue with that.

[@denjamin2633]

@theredgem the problem is that step hasnt been taken yet. And until that step is taken every job lost is a family devastated. I would love if tomorrow I were automated away and kept financial solvent at the level I am now because than I could spend that time with my family instead of slaving away to keep them fed. Thats the good ending, definitely. But we dont live in that world yet, so instead I would lose my home and my child would go hungry. That's just a hypothetical for me, but there are people out there who have already lost their jobs to automation without any safety net. That is the reality of today. People are suffering. To laugh that off and say its a good thing is a disgusting twist coming from a guy who speaks so much about the importance of empathy.

[@theredgem]

@@denjamin2633 I agree with you - I think a problem free transition required talking about this 50 years ago

[@jeran881]

Loosing your job when you don't need the money might be a blessing but when you need the money it's a tragedy. Sadly most of us are in the 2nd group. UBI sadly is not here and might not be for a while.

[@KanedaSyndrome]

My main issue about UBI is the lack of social mobility. One thing is to have revenue streams, but a lot of people will probably be stuck in their current social class.

[@idontknowyoubutialreadyhat1292]

Whenever I hear of people living the post-labor-lifestyle I hear them saying "I'm doing great." and the next thing is stuff like "I'm doing work i really care about." or "I'm writing a book." What I am interested in when it comes to living in a post-labor-world is "What if there is no job that anyone wants you to do, because AI can do it better? What if nobody wants to read your book? What if the whole concept of doing something useful for others is gone?" Even though you say you live your life as if you're the main character what you're doing is still under the category of "Helpful to others." This is something we need, being useful to the people around us, and I was hoping you would know how to live if we don't have that anymore.

[@ag687]

There is always a way to be useful to others. Just playing games together is being useful and keeping each others health in check (like mental health/social interaction). If you still need a reward system, an app that pays people for being social is theoretically an option. It could be small like get a free slice of pizza if you play games for 2 hours at a pizza place. Or it could be big like an actual payment system.

[@idontknowyoubutialreadyhat1292]

@@ag687 You don't think a machine could do even that better? Playing with you?

[@mrleenudler]

​@@idontknowyoubutialreadyhat1292People don't want that. People want the human relation. Will that change? Possibly, but I don't think so, not for the majority at least.

[@ag687]

​@@idontknowyoubutialreadyhat1292 Sure, an AI could do better and customize just about anything to be just right depending on your mood. But at some point, your automating stuff that people want to do themselves anyway. The app/gaming(or any competition) idea covers several objectives. People like to have a purpose and make progress and feel they are being rewarded. (Working/money/social interaction is basically our current reward system.) People are also social creature and bad things can happen when they don't develop those skills. This combo of rewarding social interaction and gaming helps people find others with similar interests, skill level and purpose. The Idea more or less comes down to competing in games replacing competing in the work place.

[@arsic094]

@@mrleenudler Who says you will be able to tell if you are playing with an AI?

[@samonte6396]

Working with Julia and clearly making boundaries is in good alignment for you! (You already know this!) Keep going

[@theycallmedip]

I'm really grateful for this new energy and direction you've taken with your content. It resonates so much with me and I think your proving as a model for those who won't know what to do in this next chapter of the world. My 5 year goal is to become involved in psychedelic therapy and legalization. Maybe I'll see you there 🙏

[@ReubenAStern]

In England there is a divide. In most of the country, "What do you do?" means what's your job. In London it means "What's your passion that you pursue tirelessly in your spare time?", a lot of them are musicians and filmmakers.

[@mgpspacedout]

This was really inspiring for me. Thanks for sharing, Dave. I also really liked the thought you shared from your wife about seeing yourself as the main character of your own story. I'd also love to hear you just riff more on the interesting future aspects of post labor economics and how it will unfold in the decades and centuries to come. I think that's a fun topic.

[@EarlWynn]

I'm grateful for every one of these videos you post. They lift me up and give me hope for the future. Often, fear and bias lead me to believe life will suck steadily more and more until I die, but with the experience and data analysis you share, I find optimism for a little while. Thank you

[@al3030]

I like the term "meaning economy". I think you approached this in a very mature way. Kudos and look forward to following your work on here and Twitter/substack.

[@jonogrimmer6013]

As a graphic designer my jobs essentially gone. After 15 years I can no longer make enough to survive.

[@antoniobutcher]

sorry to hear that bro!

[@mrleenudler]

Is there any demand for assisting people with AI design? As a professional you probably have some knowledge about design elements that the average promoter doesn't have. Like everyone can mow a lawn, but we still have garden architects.

[@dreamdaycharleston]

David your perspective is so refreshing. Thanks for sharing

[@Muzick]

"The audience has no clue what they want." SO TRUEEE!!!!!!!!!

[@mc101]

Love the stuff you are doing. Keep at it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@benjammin105123]

I like the post labor economics stuff. But mostly importantly you should make exactly what you want to.

[@mrleenudler]

NO! He should make exactly what _I_ want! (jk, also he already does. Every video is greatly appreciated and does right to the top of my morning coffee list)

[@8milestreet]

He is back!

[@isindie]

Psychedelics! I’m even more in ☺️

[@herbertyoung540]

Excellent insight and wisdom in these times of chaos and confusion, thank you ...

[@DougBohm]

I was just listening to this on Substack but loving the visuals!

[@DaveShap]

going for that cottagecore atmosphere

[@mosstownza]

Can’t wait to hear more about this psychedelic renaissance

[@goround5gohigh2]

Post-Labour trekanomics really - economics is so transactional. Trekanomics is aspirational and generous with meaning at its core. So - let’s co-create the story of trekanomics transition.

[@chancemcgee5731]

I like this idea.

[@willbates2174]

I think a lot of people (myself included) do not have quite the same level of confidence that we will navigate to a stable post-labor paradigm without some serious upheaval and disruption. Which can make people very anxious, they know massive change is coming, and they aren't sure how to prepare for it. Sure I'd like to hope that we'll eventually get to a post-labor utopia, but it won't be this decade, and there's going to be a lot of people losing their jobs while we are still under capitalism.

[@michelcote]

Thanks for the hints

[@tomdarling8358]

Keep doing you, David! ✌️🤟🖖

[@mlimrx]

Hi David, thank you for posting this. As a long time follower, I actually felt confused and disappointed when you inactivated your KZbin account and placed your discord/patreon on a hiatus. It seemed to come out of nowhere and felt a bit bipolar lol. I get it now. I'm a busy mom so I had no idea what you were going through. But I have to agree you are definitely taking your gloves off on Twitter. I am glad to see that you are back and finding a new path for yourself. You have a gifted mind and thankfully you also have a kind heart. Looking forward to your writings and posts coming from a place of inspiration instead of obligation or force. Cheers!!

[@Truthtoat]

I'm delighted to be a subscriber now. I found you because of Julia McCoy. Big fan of both of you. I'm an older guy probably the oldest of both your channels. But I love learning from smart young people.

[@dieguterute4401]

Hey, So yeah, I think the most important thing in life is to achieve happiness. I am a student from Berlin, and I am very excited about the possible future of the, like you said, Post-Labour-Lifestyle. But I am afraid of not being a part of it or just getting enough to barely survive. I don't know. I would like to have that freedom and possibility of a great life without being stuck in a 9-to-5 and slowly dying on the inside. I would like to pursue lifelong learning and traveling the world and being in the woods. And i am very happy to hear again some toughts from you ;)

[@RegularRegs]

Im already getting edged out of my IT Project Coordinator position. They are using agents in ServiceNow next year, which means I have a year, maybe 2 unless i move to hands on tech and take a huge pay cut.

[@johnthomasriley2741]

Post Economy is a lot like retirement. 🎉

[@michaelschaefer4601]

I want to know David's take on things! Gives me much to how to ponder on!!

[@Fluxite-com]

The Zeitgeist man!

[@wisedylan]

Basic Allowance Letting All Networks Communicate Efficiently It's all about balance. 😊

[@anonanon7553]

You have the best channel

[@lordkresh]

David, I saw someone critiquing Elon’s idea of a universal high income, dismissing it as impossible by arguing that abundant goods like food are still expensive. They missed the point-it’s not about a high income by today’s standards but one that’s high relative to the reduced costs AI will bring. If automation makes goods cheap, even a modest income could provide a great quality of life. They also claimed people would lose meaning without work, but how meaningful is survival-driven labor? True meaning comes from freedom and creativity, not working just to live. It’s frustrating to see someone interested in AI treating it as a small tweak instead of the paradigm shift it is. What’s your take? How do we help people see the bigger picture?

[@evan_sarantis]

It's happening now, and channels like this one really provide a way forward. For now, AI is rapidly transforming workforce dynamics by reducing the number of roles needed to complete tasks, rather than outright replacing workers. This shift most significantly impacts junior developers, repetitive office jobs, data entry, customer service, and creative fields like content creation and design. Governments and regulatory bodies must take proactive, strategic measures now to address the ongoing labor market disruption before it becomes more severe. This means UBI and other policies are needed for a period of transition, while we move into different socioeconomic systems.

[@reggietkatter]

I’m very much interested in hearing your thoughts on psychedelics and psychedelic therapy. I’ve had good, healing experiences as well as some difficult ones. Overall I think they’ve played a beneficial role in my life at certain points. Where can I hear you talk about psychedelics?

[@markldevine]

This is good. "How is Dave doing?" is an important question to me. Because of your pursuits and particular set of exceeding skills (complex puzzle assembly, bold and prolific presentation) you (et. al.) have become important at this time in history. This is also a time when information is freer than ever (Elon is major here), so obscure contributors rise when their value hits the ether. The transition to PLE has blood bath potential and needs to be in humanity's Top Ten. You're attending to it in a way that we need right now, and comprehensively no less. Valuable dude. Stay alive, balanced, and healthy. When a globally familiar narrator (I vote for James Cameron) and centralized endorsement (~think tank) are secured, your LPE work, if implemented in whatever final form, will allow us to gracefully take the next major step in societal organization. We all need this more than most understand right now.

[@threedogzz]

Great stuff, thanks!

[@stacyfoote9032]

Im learning a skill that i can give a service ! Def thanks

[@EliseuMateus]

Your approach to life is counterintuitive but inspiring.🤔

[@NicholasShanks]

Posting videos about PLE and UBI are videos about AI. And they are the videos I want to see. I want to direct my children towards having a fulfilling life.

[@Tata-ew4lz]

My income is 100% passive and I have enough to be comfortable. I also drive more than 1,000 miles per month doing a bunch of little things. I am definitely not bored and the days seem to fly past.

[@rogerrose4845]

Bro, but can you make a drone review video...😅😂

[@animateclay]

It’s all great when you have passive income outlets already set up like what David did. That’s why he’s able to live comfortably as he is for the time being. Not to mention his partner probably has a regular job? But if there’s a medical emergency in his family or his house half burns down in an accident - the narrative will be a lot different. (Not that I wish that on anyone) Hopefully UBI will kick in eventually. Then this story will be more accurate to our situation today.

[@Sythemn]

My personal experience as a programmer is that at least we're safe for now. The AI reviewer at work basically only recommends we break the code changes we just made... And when it's not doing that, it says we should do things that have already been done, or wants us to make the code illegible.

[@letnkdesboisphotographicac778]

"What do you do ?" in France also means "What is your job ?". We're not that different after all...

[@mrleenudler]

Oh, let me try! Qu'est-ce que vous faire? Did I miss by much?

[@letnkdesboisphotographicac778]

@@mrleenudler You'ld rather say "Vous êtes quoi ?" or "Que faites-vous (dans la vie) ?" but yes, people would have caught your message.

[@Muaahaa]

I can understand why people are "under-functioning". I had one of the most challenging periods in my life shortly following the release of Chat GPT and the resulting re-evaluation of my likely future. I came through with a different perspective and the ability to continue functioning without turning to ignorance but it was truly very hard to get to that point.

[@leonardofalavigna1028]

it's for video like this that i follow you

[@handlemonium]

*Marketplace dude was like:* hey if ya really want to buy this definitive Ascension expansion off me ya gotta come meet me in Seattle this weekend. *Me:* Time for a 36-hour adventure riding Amtrak and visiting old friends!

[@eventhorizon8670]

For some reason, I need 10 hours of sleep to feel well rested. I've been trying going down to a 9 hour sleep every day and I feel tired a sleepy.

[@richoffks]

If you’re one of the millions of college students, none of this bull crap matters.

[@jhunt5578]

I remember reading the "All watched over by machines of loving grace" poem in my late teens and thinking thats the only way to free every human to do what they want. Now it seems like it's going to happen, and people are saying it will be awful. I don't get it.

[@joey89a]

Isn't the point of AI to allow us to do more of what we enjoy in life? Congrats for you setting up clear boundaries, I feel this is one of the MAIN lessons to get from this tech/ AI revolution: to not give our power away to people, tools, algorithms and remember that WE are the source of it. By the way, David, I work with energy and have extended experience with psychedelics as well. As I was listening to you, I felt a blockage right in your solar plexus; there's a chance you carry some emotional wounding that might make you feel restless, not fully relaxed and a bit hyper-vigilant. If you're interested, I might do something to release some of that for you:)

[@nickhalverson99999]

Dave, you are a raging ENTP, from one to another lolol don’t ever change

[@botsandbytes]

The background music made me cry

[@ancientone800]

I am going to write. Dave, you have been an inspiration. I understand the choices you have made. Wokeism is a little scary, pre Trump. You are so right. I started pursuing my idea to help people find purpose. Logotherapy style 😎. Might be valuable 😂. I had all the same problems, and burnout sucks! I'm glad to be a part of your community and looking forward to following along with you as you further develop your own purpose. The AI revolution is what I was born for as I see you are, too. Peace, brother.

[@ancientone800]

Oh, I'll be back to skool when I'm financially able ❤

[@mprado4177]

Thank you. I have been living a post labor life for two years, and I have many questions, but the most simple one is: who is Julia? I am subscribed to this channel, and I usually watch all the vids, but I must have missed something.

[@rainmaker6970]

i tend to think all of you tube is an AI but if this is really you - great job this was a great friggin video !! AI or real David :))

[@Tracey66]

"Some folks say that I'm egotistical Hell I don't even know what that means I guess it has something to do With the way that I fill out my skin tight blue jeans" - Mac Davis 😁

[@monstermancave1994]

I just googled "Meaning Economy". All I got back was a dictionary defintion of economy. *sigh

[@kennethoneill4176]

David for the people who wanted you to function for them and tell what to do. Ai will take that role. Freeing up those humans who want to explore and figure out new ways to live. I have simplified my view people can either happily let AI tell them what to do or use these tools to create the lives they want

[@hobocraft0]

"The problem is that we all to often have socialism for the rich and rugged free enterprise capitalism for the poor. That’s the problem." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. You see it pisses me off because you and I are basically doing the exact same shit, with the exact same priorities, and the exact same problems. Except I don't have the delusions of inflated self worth that you got from being a capitalist. It pisses me off, because people like you think that "meaning economy" means "doing whatever the I want". People like you have this insane delusion that everybody's walking around with the same privilege that you have, and so they should just pursue whatever they want, completely disconnected from the real restrictions and necessities of everyday life. That isn't reality for most people, with or without money. People are going to get hurt in this transition, and people are going to die in this transition. It is going to come from the mentality of people who think exactly like you. And by the way, I also ask people what they spend their time on and what they care about.

[@lunchbagheadwaters3543]

Your critique is spot on. I think David Shapiro has some insights about what the post-labor society COULD feel like, but clearly he is priveleged to have experienced that at all in a still-capitalist world. I have posted a podcast on my channel where I talk about a more post-money mentality, a world beyond competition and ever-increasing inequality. I actually don't think a UBI is even the best way forward - I think a social net of people helping people without using money as a medium would give us a more stable and secure foundation to survive during this turbulent transition to a post-labor world. I think building distribution networks of resources among ourselves is more important than waiting and hoping for some sort of UBI to be handed down by corporations and governments. A UBI could just end up perpetuating our resource-intensive system of rewarding greed and accumulation, so on my channel I'm presenting ideas more along the lines of trying to create a grass roots gift economy, it's more about building a post-money world before we hit AGI. I checked out your channel, I love your idea of a network of piles where everyone can exchange stuff with each other. That's very similar to my "distribution network" idea. I've been trying to present the idea on my podcast and on this subreddit: r/distributionNetwork - the idea is to directly distribute resources to each other on a basis of trust, and on a basis of rewarding generosity first. What you call "piles", I call "stashspots" but it sounds like a very similar idea. I think the idea can only catch on among the less priveleged, since they understand what the "ground floor" really feels like. I'm trying to create such a network to not even involve money or even trade, but to create a virtuous cycle that actually rewards generosity instead of greed using what I call "fractal generosity" where the most generous give first to the most generous. I would love to hear what you think about any of these ideas. Based on your own videos, and your comment here, I really think you would get it. Thanks.

[@theatheistpaladin]

While you have confidence in the government giving UBI, I do not. That is probably why people are asking for advice in keeping employed.

[@derekoreborn]

tell us more about psychedelics!

[@TheGalacticIndian]

I support your decisions👌Explaining this to those who’ve only known capitalism is tough. Insights from those living under non-capitalist systems show life isn’t just disguised slavery (‘work,’ ‘career’). Challenging the ‘law of the jungle’ mindset is no easy task 🤔

[@williamwillaims]

What about all the people that are already poor? Suddenly, these people will be lifted out of poverty and to the level of the average income (via ubi)? Mm nah What about the funding for social programs... no tax, no funding! This is all a pipe dream ❤

[@jungleinc]

Post labor economics where the vids your audience liked the most!

[@UAknight]

Post labor is our chance to stop competing with each other for stupid reasons and, instead, make a world a better place.

[@HouseJawn]

I used to sell weed in the 2000s, i definitely know the post labor lifestyle

[@kaio0777]

david gald you are doing this man we are so far head this guys get lost in the weeds.

[@azuraamasu5668]

Do you find the military to be a viable career option for someone who is 18? Taking into consideration everything that's about to happen

[@DaveShap]

I wouldn't. Why risk your life when you're about to live forever? Let the robots do the fighting and serving.

[@Bjarkus3]

We need people to sign up for the resistance to the terminators. Short career and early retirement with a lot of peace may be a benefit 😂

[@gregw6804]

If you join the military it may define your entire life.

[@tracy419]

They'll be using robots too. I don't want to fight a robot.

[@waterlevelroute]

I'd say try it for 4 years. If you like it, great. If you don't, you will look good to employers and yes, you will still need/want a job 4 years from now.

[@gamercatsz5441]

Hey dave, what do you care most about right now?

[@Yic17Gaming]

Hope we all get UBI in 3 years so everyone can start focusing on what they really want to do. 😄

[@padraigmarley2844]

You look after you man

[@mrnoblemonkey8401]

I’d learn to yodel and go for hikes

[@whitlockbr]

I'm curious about how you use AI to do what you love doing.

[@TheVilLedger]

17:43 cheers to that 🍻

[@savesoil7814]

So crisp

[@Ton369]

I’m already living the UBI lifestyle. Oh wait, it’s called getting lucky with crypto

[@marioornot]

Ok but how can normal labouring people transition to post labour economics? Can you work on an example framework?

[@keithmandell9040]

While I believe that AI will take most jobs eventually, at the rate it's improving, which is increasingly slowly, i doubt there will be significant job loss in the next 10 years. There is very little risk of serious job loss by 2026.

[@lilchef2930]

Will this translate to LEV

[@tracy419]

Just heard this on the substack and wanted to say that I'm glad you reopened this channel and monetized it. There's no reason not to use this revenue to build your better future. People who get bent about monetized channels aren't to be taken seriously. You owe them nothing.

[@Gafferman]

I've said this for like over a year now, often in the comments in this channel... Nothing has actually changed yet around me. I've actually been WORSE financially and work has been heavy. Have had to change jobs and it honestly seems nobody is really bothered about AI. I'm going to be a delivery driver now, where's the AI?

[@ag687]

Most people don't know much about AI and what it'll be able to do relatively quickly.

[@Gafferman]

@@ag687 but we've been hearing that for years now. "Quickly" would have happened already. Shops, postal services, police... None of these core things are moving.

[@ag687]

@@Gafferman are you sure they are not moving? A lot of stuff is happening in the background now. When I use quickly it varies depending on if you're talking digital only or robots too. What im seeing now is already widespread and accelerating on the digital/simulation side. Physical stuff like self-driving cars will take longer in part because of something like cars where you have designs that tend to be 3-5 years old by the time you see it. But self driving cars should already be starting to scale up with robotaxies around now. Beyond that, not much longer until we are seeing digital agents with specific tasks that are trainable sort of like employees, kiosk help desks at stores with beloved icons doing the talking and more that will only get more visible from here on out.